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>England's 50th game at Wembley is going to be against Portugal

>19:45 GMT

WTF, we playing today? How come I'm only hearing about this today?

>The game is going to have the commentary of Sporting's manager, Jorge Jesus

LMAO, I can't miss this.
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This is the GMT derby.
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fuck i dont know which team has more meme players.

we are both frauds so i hope one of us gets BTFO and all hope is gone i dont care who
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England will lose because no Drinkwater
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>Ronaldo not even bothering to play
Why are we so small time bros?
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>>68042404
>tfw Eric Dier switches nationalities at halftime
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>>68042404
Everyone knows about it. Already made bets as well
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>>68042446
So true oldest ally
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Anyone else going to the game?
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lads ive got a joke for you

what does ronaldo wear for his important business meeting?
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>>68042562
a TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUIT
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lads
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>>68042608
lel
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>>68042554

Nah m8 we don't get to watch Wembley FC games in the North, even though we supply most of the players
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>>68042675
unlucky. shame nothing worthwhile happens outside of london in the uk
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>>68042693
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>>68042446
honestly it would be amazing if we both got BTFO

0-0 draw with literally 0 goal chances created, would at least make people in both countries a bit more realistic regarding their chances to win the Euro cup given we're both going out in the group stages
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>>68042723
as a foreigner who has never been to England, this is the impression I've always had as well
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>>68042732
That's why i placed a bet on the draw. Would like to see some goals though, rooting for the 1-1
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England got 1 chance and that's the 4-4-2 with diamond formation in the midfield and Kane and Vardy in front, anything other that and they are getting BTFO
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>>68042462
this
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>>68042723
You could just as easily make one of these with the roles switched.
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>>68042723
Yorkshire>literally everything else ever
sorry lads, it's just how it is, the rest of the north is ok I guess but you southern fairies can fuck right off
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i placed a bet on portugal kek
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>>68042946
good post

>>68042964
JUST
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>yfw Portugal and Ronaldo get Kaned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hcbsb5yffk
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>>68042404
>The game is going to have the commentary of Sporting's manager, Jorge Jesus
What??? The man can barely form coherent sentences and he's commenting the game? This should be fun...
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>>68042984
ronaldo is not gonna play tho
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>>68042446
this tbqh
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>oldest allies
>both teams are memes so there are no expectations and therefore no disappointments
is this the comfiest game?
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Is Vardy playing brit bros?
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>>68042964
It's like you portuguese love wasting money on nothing
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>>68043002
should be some good banter

>>68043024
yeah kane and vardy
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>>68042999
Why not? Woy said the reason he chose Portugal for the match was to prepare for Wales - i.e. a one man team that goes through their GOAT winger
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>>68043025
hmm, yes?
>>68043041
Neat.
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Poortugal will get destroyed
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>>68043048
For what? You're just going to draw us on the quarter finals and lose on penalties.
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When does the Euro begins?
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>>68043048
he's on holiday with his boyfriend in Ibiza right now, asked for time off before the euros
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>>68043087
this is probably whats gonna happen. both of us, italy and memegium are in our own tier of not good but not shit
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>>68043093
June 10
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>>68042946
isnt yorkshire where that rotherham shit took place because of the massively corrupt police force
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>>68042500
Kek
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>>68042987
>bazófia
>jogo a pinuts
>bazófia
>cunheço muita bem estes jogaderes
>bazófia
>praticamente fermados por mim
>bazófia
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>>68043126
South Yorkshire police are corrupt la
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When's England's first match of the Euros?
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>>68043126
>disrepecting god's own county
it's like you want 9/11 to happen again
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We have Ederzito, brits gonna get BTFO. Fear us.
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>>68043236
m8 we have the ultimate memelord memecus memeford he is the next eusebio
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>>68043262
w00t we have the next eusébio #27 god Renato Sanchez no way you're going to win
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>beat norway 3-0
>beat england 4-2
>ronaldo comes into the team
>lose 1-2 to estonia
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GRANDE
GROSSO
e
PRETO
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>>68043114
That tier is called "Not good enough".
Feelsbadman.
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>>68043163
>o fernando santos copiou-me
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>>68043352
I wonder how many willies ronaldo has sucked out of that group. i'm going for a minimum of two
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>>68043187
week on Saturday famalam
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>>68043334
This.
>>68043352
B B C
B
C
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>Penaldo out
>Quaresma/Nani, Eder and Eliseu as starters

Be gentle allies
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>>68043352
>that hoover hand
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>>68042404

Literally just found out about this game from OP

>I came to /sp/ because I was interested in sports.
>Now I watch sports because /sp/ reminds me to do so.
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>>68043479
/sp/ slowly kills any real interest in sports and replaces it with memes and shitposting
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Hyped for Shanta Ronaldo making his international debut tonight.
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>>68043523
nah, nobody knew it was today I told my friends and they where all ignorant of the fact we are playing alberto barbosa
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>>68043464
its ok bro i forgive you

but kane cannot
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>>68042675
Didn't they just play in Sunderland?
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>>68042562
>>68042608
>>68042651
That's actually hilarious.

Did you two know I was high when you did this? Did you do this for me?
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>>68043464

Why didn't he call Hugo Vieira to at least a few friendlies?
Is there really that much of a difference between scoring in the French or Serbian league?
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>>68042608
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>>68042723
>sean bean
>civilised
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>>68043609
>implying Eder scores
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>>68043704

wow
He didn't even play 30 games this season
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>>68043695
100% PLEB
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>>68042404
>WTF, we playing today? How come I'm only hearing about this today?

I only found out about it yesterday, though I probably saw it while scanning upcoming fixtures weeks ago and forgot.
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>>68043575
nobody knows this game is on except /sp/, I've just found out on this thread
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>>68043777
6 goals in 29 games
B R A V O
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We all agree we should play a midfield diamond with Kane and Vardy up front, yeah?
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>>68043877
Yes I agree, my Anglo brother.
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>>68043877
if allah wills it sheikh el hodisoni will do it
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>>68043695
Don't fucking slag off based Sean Bean. Regardless of where you're from in the country, everyone loves him.
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>>68043869

For reference, Hugo is 21 in 33
At least he knows what scoring feels like
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>>68043695

>Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones star Sean Bean was involved in an alleged attack in a North London pub

>An unnamed man is believed to have returned to the bar later and attacked the Lord of the Rings star, punched him in the face and 'stabbed him with broken glass'.

>Declining a trip to hospital Sean Bean went back into the pub and ordered another drink.

>A fellow drinker told The Mail, “Sean is a regular here and we’ve never had any problems before. He was with a very attractive woman and an incident occurred outside the bar.”

>“He came in with a cut on his arm and a bruise on his eyebrow. We saw to his injuries with the first aid kit. He seemed ok and wanted to have another drink.

Full pleb desu senpai
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Who is Portugal's meme of the month player à la Marcus Rashford?
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>>68043850
same lel
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>>68043980
Renato Sanches
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>>68043980
Quaresma
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>>68043695
>Sean Bean's daughter
JUST
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>>68043988
But he's actually good
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>>68043479
I literally checked facebook today and that's how I found out...
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Why isn't there a United Kingdom team?
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>>68044040
Rashford is good too. Does that mean they're not both overhyped as fuck?
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>>68043980
>>68043988
>>68044014
Of the month Quaresma (see goal vs Norway)
Of the year Renato
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>>68044061
It'd be too GOAT
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>>68044061
Because the IFAB exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Football_Association_Board

>IFAB is made up of representatives from each of the United Kingdom's pioneering football associations—England's Football Association (The FA), the Scottish Football Association (SFA), the Football Association of Wales (FAW) and Northern Ireland's Irish Football Association (IFA)—and Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA), the international governing body for football. Each UK association has one vote and FIFA has four. IFAB deliberations must be approved by three-quarters of the vote, which translates to at least six votes. Thus, FIFA's approval is necessary for any IFAB decision, but FIFA alone cannot change the Laws of the Game—they need to be agreed by at least two of the UK members

If there was a combined team the four FA's of the UK would lose their independence.
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>>68044071
Rashford is the actual typical english player: black and pacey.
He's not that good 2bh
I'm not saying Renato is god tho, i mean, in actual terms João Mário is way better.
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>>68044028
She's a 10/10 in Yorkshire
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>>68043913
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>>68044176
Stop bullying Sean Bean you bastard.
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>>68044176

How would you feel if you had seen yourself die dozens of times?
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>>68044206
He is a big fan of pies. He comfort eats a lot of them to forget all the deaths he has suffered probably.
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>>68044235
Probably also when he thinks of how he made Neil Warnock quit Sheffield United, leading to them hiring Bryan Robson and subsequently being fucking toss in 2016.

>HOLLYWOOD star Sean Bean made Neil Warnock's wife and son cry with a foul-mouthed furious tirade when Sheffield United were relegated, the former Blades boss has revealed.
According to Neil Warnock in his soon-to-be-published autobiography 'Made in Sheffield', the actor's astonishing outburst came 20 minutes after the Blades were demoted on the last day of the Premiership season.

>He says Sheffield-born Bean - a diehard Blades fan and United director - stormed into the office at Bramall Lane where Warnock's wife Sharon and five-year-old son William were waiting. Swearing repeatedly, Bean is said to have pointed his finger at Sharon and snarled: "It's your husband that's got us relegated" before hurling four-letter insults.

>Warnock said the shocking verbal attack - after United's defeat at home to Wigan coupled with West Ham's 1-0 win at Old Trafford condemned the Blades to relegation - was the last straw for him as manager. He said: "If that incident hadn't happened maybe I'd still be Sheffield United manager today. But it made me realise what certain people at the club were saying about me behind my back."

>In his explosive new book - being serialised by The Sun from today - Warnock recalls: "Twenty minutes or so after the game had ended, Sharon and William were sitting in my office when the film actor Sean Bean burst in with his girlfriend.

>"He was obviously the worse for wear. He wanted to know where I was. Sharon told him I was doing a Press conference and I'd be back soon.
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>>68044301

>"So Sean Bean started swearing at her and my five-year-old son. That's Sean Bean the tough guy actor. Some kind of tough guy, eh, reducing a five-year-old kid and his mum to tears."

>Warnock reveals: "I was livid to begin with. I wanted to go and find him. He might be a film star but he wasn't a star in my eyes that afternoon."

>The former Blades boss said United chairman Kevin McCabe apologised to him when he heard about Bean's behaviour and even claimed he planned to ask Bean to review his position on the board.

>Warnock said: "I was never really sure why Sean Bean was on the board in the first place. Celebrity supporter, I suppose. I didn't have a lot to do with him and I never really rated his opinion on football."
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Will woy play his starting 11?
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>>68044320
I hope so.

Then I can finally see whether to give up all hope or not
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>>68042987
>>68043163
>>68043402
He literally just said that the only european league going on at the moment is the Brazilian league. Off to a good start.
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>>68043352
>that big beefy bear on the right

who knew ronaldo was a chaser as well
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>>68044313
>warnock will never come back to the lane, even in a director of football roll
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>>68044457
He hates the chairman there too much.

He was close to pitching up at Wednesday when Dave Jones was sacked, Keith Curle was going to be his assistant and it was pretty much all agreed but Milan Mandaric pulled the plug on it after some fans made their voices heard. Stuart Gray ended up doing alright for them, but I think Warnock would have been a pro and done well there too.
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Is Tsu playing
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Alright I guess I'll watch it. It's not like I have a girlfriend to spend time with anyway.
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TRÊS LEÕES NA CAMISOLA
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stream?
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>>68044028
That daddy syndrom
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> people actually like boromir

Lmao what is this meme
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>>68044606
Lancashire pls go.
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tfw no tsu
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>>68043950
>Full pleb desu senpai

>get glassed
>walk it off and go for another pint
More like an absolute hero
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que é esta semente demente?
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England (4-1-2-1-2): Hart; Walker, Smalling, Cahill, Rose; Dier, Milner, Alli, Rooney; Vardy, Kane.
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is England really more than pride?

is Portugal really more than iconic?
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>>68044707
>guys how do we make woy's 4-4-2 with a diamond in midfield look sleek and like he's changing up the formation
>4-1-2-1-2

brilliant, lads!
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Reminder that Portugal are better than England even without Ronaldo
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>>68044738
Portugal without Ronaldo is Switzerland tier.
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>>68044692
é a única razão para ver a TVI24 desu
fico com tesão de cada vez que olho para aquela penca de papagaio
comia tanto, meu deus do céu...
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>>68044707
>Milner

This useless sack of spunk best not be starting at the euros
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>>68044714
I've never understood what exactly the English have to be proud about.
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Is this the game thread?
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>>68044761
>doubting hames
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>>68044762
>tfw England, a fraction of a tiny little island, has given the world more than any country on Earth
>tfw England, a fraction of a tiny little island, invented and popularised almost all of the world's major sports
>tfw England, a fraction of a tiny little island, has won a football world cup, a rugby world cup and is #1 at cricket, as well as being the GOAT at Formula 1, has the most famous Tennis tournament in the world, is great at Golf and one of the best all time nations in the Olympics
>tfw England, a fraction of a tiny little island, has produced more great literary works, more great bands and more great people than any other nation on Earth
>tfw England, a fraction of a tiny little island, has done more for science than any other country on Earth
>tfw England, a fraction of a tiny little island, is the reason the rest of the world isn't still living in mud huts
>tfw we are all right now speaking English
>tfw almost every single person on Earth has to learn English
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>>68044707
that's england's starting lineup for the euros

should be bar maybe one or two (looking at fbs and milner and switch around rooney and alli)

>>68044749
portugal with ronaldo is below switzerland tier
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>pray for drinky
>pray for english injuries
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ALLI IS WASTED ON THE LEFT

PUT HIM BEHIND THE STRIKERS WHERE HE HAS A TELEPATHIC CHEMISTRY WITH KANE FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>68044802
greatest ally
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>>68044749
>le self-deprecating fans meme
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>>68044176
be more dog, new pay only sim by O2
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>>68044803
kek portugal without ronaldo is the second best nt
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inb4 Rooney striker w/ Kane and Vardy on the wings

You know Roy would do it
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So it's a diamond with Deir and Rooney at the tips?
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>>68044825
NEXT RAYCE IN TWO WEEEEEKS

SHANG'AI
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>>68044707
Oh god I can already see that Roy is gonna start Rooney, Vardy and Kane in every match. May Allah be with you Brits.
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>>68044802
>tfw England is only really successful because literally everything is copied from France
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>>68043352
Didn't realise Dec was friends with Ronaldo
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>>68044809
This. Rooney plays on the left for United too. What's the point of swapping Alli and Rooney's positions?
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>>68044844
diamonds have 4 tips

but yeah, should be
--------------Dier
--------Milner---Rooney
-------------Alli
but is
------------Dier
------Milner--Alli
-----------Rooney
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>>68044844
Don't mention tips in threads where Americans are lurking
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>>68044865
Where is everyone getting this alli on the left from?

It's probs left of the diamond if that's what you mean so he's basically a central midfeilder
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>tips diamond
m'lady
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WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME
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Bruno Alves and Ricardo Carvalho will be playing on their wheelchairs
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>>68044873
Dimonds are flexible though

They could easily play both as the game progresses
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>Tfw I just failed the remote control module on my TV license exam for the third this year

Anyone got a stream for this?
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>>68044910
Who are the forwards? Just Nani and Rafa?
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>>68044920
the most positive thing about rooney moving backward is that he's essentially taking the spot off barkshit, which is amazing news for you
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>>68044802
>tfw Ricardo takes the gloves off and a fraction of a tiny little islands btfo

Fuck this thread... England is going to get raped. Today we set eyes on the final and btfo everyone that wants to fuck with us
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>>68044910
Ricardo Carvalho is still good
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>>68044910
>Esilel
>Nhonhi
Kill me
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>>68044910
>Ricardo Carvalho is still alive
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>>68044937
yup
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>>68044942
>this post
can we not have a max comfy thread?
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>>68044957
barely

>alves and riccy up against the vardy and kane
g-go portushits
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>>68044933

Legit can't tell if you're joking or not
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>they're replaying a package of the Belgium-Finland match from yesteday before England-Portugal on ESPN here

wew
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Who /a/ here
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1st for Garry
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>>68045015
we all /a/ here
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>>68044910
Good team

Superior to England in every area of the field
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>>68044802
RULE BRITANNIA WE'RE CONQUERING THE WAVES
TWO WORLD WARS ONE WORLD CUP OI OI
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>>68044995
no americans allowed in this thread, sorry
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>>68044981
Sry m8, i still cant believe that we lost to Greece and that they gave that penalty to France in 2006.
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DISCUSS
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Agree?
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>>68044802
#1 Ally
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>>68044995
that isn't something to joke about you dumb amerifat, we've got strict remote control laws over here you can't operate one without a licence
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Why we don't play with Ederbayor? Fuck this shit...
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>>68045042
everyone knows that defending is easy
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>>68044995
Why would he be joking?
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BRITS PREPARE YOUR ANUS
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>>68045039
legit going to fly through the geriatric portugal defense. carvalho and alves again really? when has this ever not shit the bed?
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>>68045048
that pic triggers me
both a nig and a gipsy that play like shite
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>>68045042
problem is if your ball retention is weak
you're good playing like that as long as you can get two-thirds possession. If not, goodnight sweet prince
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>>68045039
EXCREMENT
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>>68045059
Kek, he also says this England side should be like Liverpool 13/14: all about outscoring opponents and no worries about conceding; at International level there is hardly any Chelsea-tier defending anyway. I agree.
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>>68045036

How else are the Bristains gonna know who won? I'm only trying to help!
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>>68042404

>no Donaldo

who cares? I just want Cahill - Smalling to get BTFO by him.
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>>68045089
>le hate minorities meme
lel ur right ahah xDD fuck niggers ahah!! Portugal to the portuguese!!
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>>68045067
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>>68045037
>our game v france in 2004
>that game v germany in 2010
>pretty much every tournament since 1996
its alri m8 both are NT's cause massive suffering
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>mfw yanks try and talk about 'soccer' in our 'soccer' threads
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>>68045092
BECOME
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>>68044910
>disabled center backs
>eliseu
>literal whos on the attack

i havent seen rafa play can he score goals?
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>>68045089
Ederbayor is much better than the gipsy desu
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>>68045091
What are their other options though?
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>>68045089
>nig and a gipsy

Back to /pol/ you go.
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>>68045111
Great movie, one of the best I've watched desu.
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I had faith in Roy

No longer. He has learned nothing from these friendlies

Surprised if we win a game desu
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>>68045131
>i havent seen rafa play
>These are the fucking casuals talking shit about the team
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>>68045143
>>68045108
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anyone got the >schalke image? with the guy in the shower
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>>68045160
Sauce is barbie sinclair
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>tfw no Bernardo Silva
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inb4 someone starts a match thread without linking it in here
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>>68045147
>I had faith in Roy
I didn't, but I'm starting to see that England could be pretty good if he actually listens to the obvious.

That 4-4-2 Diamond worked so well against Germany, France, and in the second half against Turkey.
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>>68045131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZX8XVMOLTk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDliSrERWIA
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>>68045151
Oh shit, we got a victim here.
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Portugal are going to be Inglaterrad a new arsehole
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>>68043605
yeah. moaning northerners.
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>>68045170
Na, this system doesn't work unless we are on the front foot, simply because of the quality of our forwards

We can't play in midfield and will get exposed hard
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Portugal are shit, country full of half bred mutts. We're gonna smash this team of literally who's.
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is catalog neet down? 4chan catalog is shit i need it senpai
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Literally just remembered it's coming home this summer. Feels good desu
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>>68045179

Hope Braga doesn't go full cuck and sell him to Benfica so they can just double their money on him
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>>68045206
4chanx mate, it's 2016
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JUST
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I'm not feeling it lads. It might not actually come home 2bh
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>>68044910

>not realising you want a 35+ pairing at cb
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>>68045219
lifelong
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> ITV

Oh great, can' wait for hear Glenn Hoddle wank off over the Spurs players again.
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>>68045213
I think Braga only sells him to another league.
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>>68045223
see >>68045212
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>no TSUnaldo

Meh.
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>>68045218

>using the FBI addon
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>>68045218
>Willing installing that spysoftware
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>>68045223
Same mate

I promised my self I would never believe again after 2014.it broke me
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>>68043002
Tune this gif with Kalemba from Buraka Som Sistema. It's a perfect fit
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I'm just gonna leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVyxImeGUYY
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>>68045166
googled her but cant find it senpai
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Hope my dealer turns up soon, don't wanna have to miss some of the game to go pick up.
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>The Championship has more players going to the Euros than Ligue 1
>League One has twice as many players going to the Euros as the Eredivisie does.
>Derby County has twice as many players going to the Euros as the Eredivisie does.

And they say the european leagues aren't a joke.
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>>68045234
Daily Reminder that Glenn Hoddle said 'Disabled people must have commited crimes in a past life' and was only fired from the England Manager post because he's a absolute nutter, he's actually good at football
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>>68045219
> Both Darius Vassell and Ricardo played with Leicester

ffs, never forget Euro 2004
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>>68045286
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>>68045283

DUDE
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>>68042946

fucking northern monkey, go die down t'''''''pit
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>>68042562
>>68042608

I'm sure there's more blood to be squeezed from this one...

What did Ronaldo say to the journalist who maliciously misquoted him?

What did Ronaldo get for his Mum when he visited the gift shop?

Where did Ronaldo see the Giraffe?

What's Ronaldo's favourite Michael Caine film?

What was Ronaldo's favourite Mesopotamian language?
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>>68045286
>Either La Liga or Bundesliga will win the Euros anyway
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>>68045295
Hoddle seems to be mentally disabled.

I reckon he was Jack the Ripper.
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You faggots, no one in England likes Portugal. Yet you're all sitting their wanking your little todgers off saying >best ally

They're literally half niggers, you're all scum
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anyone got the typed version of this?
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>>68045151
>it's okay to discriminate because it's muh opinion

fuck off
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>>68045312
kys
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>>68045286
>All these JFs coming out of our league
>English NT is shit

At least we get good football 9 months out of the year
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Still pissed off about Drinkwater

And I hate Leicester
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No Ronaldo?

Woy got merked
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>>68045323
Don't listen to the Scotsman's lies.
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>>68043605

they throw us a bone every now again to pretend that it's somehow fair and it's only ever friendlies
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>>68045323
rude desu
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Topless on a boat in Ibiza.
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is this the match thread
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>>68045337
>tfw Forest gets mentioned
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>>68045323
bit of a meme Alliance. Isnt it basically >"fugging spanish are pricks amrite"
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>tfw Danny misses yet another Euro because of the yet another injury
He just can't wake up
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>Gary Neville

what's he doing?
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>that meme pitch pattern

why
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>>68045340
Fuck off, I'm as English at it gets. Remember Ronaldo winking at the camera when he got Rooney sent off? Portugal are forever on the list
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>>68045371
Meme magic m8
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>>68045042
Of course not. Playing Whilshere as a DM is dumb af. Englands Midfield has been run over by fucking Slovenia when he played DM. He doesnt't have the positional sense to play DM, his off-the-ball movement is shit both at starting play from the back and at defending. Dier is 10 times better at playig DM than Whilshere, and I'm saying that as an Arsefag.

>>68045199
Dier-Wheelchair Milner-Alli is the way to go desu senpai. Milner is pretty good at balancing the movement of the other players and in a Diamond you really need players and Milner fits that role pretty well.
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