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NYJ:Bowles: Geno Smith our starter entering OTAs
DAL:Cowboys not ruling out Jaylon Smith for '16
SEA:Seahawks select Notre Dame RB C.J. Prosise
HOU:Texans add dynamic slot WR Braxton Miller
ATL:Falcons finally add a TE in Stanford's Hooper
TB:Bucs trade up to take K Aguayo in 2nd round
FA:Jets haven't talked with Fitzpatrick in 'weeks'
NYJ:Jets draft 'toolsy' QB Hackenberg at No. 51
NO:Ohio State WR Thomas goes to Saints at 47
TEN:DeMarco has company: Titans nab Derrick Henry
NYG:Giants complement OBJ with Sterling Shepard
JAC:Finally: Jaguars trade up to land Myles Jack
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>>67215807
Raiders
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Bust.
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>that time Denver gave away their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks to move up and draft Tebow
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idk how i feel about this pick desu
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Patriots
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DAT RUN D
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guess i'll post this here:

>>67215784
>>67215775
i mean i'd love for the raiders to stay in oakland, but no one's going to pay for the new stadium. move to LA makes much more sense even though they'd be sharing the LA fanbase with the rams (though there are a lot more raiders fans in LA than there are rams fans).

would make sense to keep them in oakland otherwise, though. niners are shit and the bandwagon is going to move to the raiders soon enough. playoff bound this season or next.
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>tfw you post right as a new thread is started

>>67215756
They won't. Raiders are fucked.

Rams owner has a lot of sway and he won't want to share LA with the Raiders.

San Antonio is too small, Texas media market already split up with two teams.

Las Vegas is their best bet for a new stadium. City growing economically and population wise. Davis has already publicly stated he would spend $500M of his own money on a stadium plan there. Brand new media market. Tons of tourism potential.
Problem is, NFL owners are mostly cranky old men who would reject the idea of a team in Las Vegas.


Raiders are going to stay in Oakland in the shitty stadium.
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is belichick going senile
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>>67215869
responded to you in that thread lol but i guess i'll also post here:

such bullshit. the league treats the franchise like absolute shit.

when the team starts winning you think they'll have more sway?
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>>67215878
He's been going senile.
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>>67215850
Feels good man
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>>67215869
>San Antonio is too small

Nigga you retarded
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>>67215878
Bill, why did you get another QB? I-i'm your QB r-right?
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Casual-ish Browns fan here

Is it true that they actually are having a good draft this year?
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Pats are drafting that black QB from Navy tomorrow (who's converting to WR). All the reporters in Boston claim it's happening. Another wasted fucking pick. Once again, Belicuck is drafting players based on their good-boy personalities and not their fucking talent. (see; Jordan Richards, shit safety from Stanford, projected to go in 6th-7th-Undrafted - Belichick takes him in the 2nd last year)

I'm also guessing Belichick drafts that jewish kike white WR Braverman from that tiny school.

This faggot is ruining Brady's last years.
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oh also the bucs got the steal of the draft in spence imo
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>>67215945

*Keenan Reynolds
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>>67215945
pretty sure Brady is ruining his own last years with this whole trial against the NFL. If anything it's a group effort.
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>>67215932
he's probably talking about the market, which makes sense. san antonio is one of the best run and most successful franchises in the past 20 years and they're still a "small market" team.

the only deals their superstars get are commercials for a texas only grocery store.
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>>67215947

>trading up for a kicker in the 2nd round
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>Are you ready to run after and try to tackle guys like Eddie Lacy and Adrian Peterson
>Oh yeah

Aaron Rodgers is salivating right now
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>>67215902
Money creates $way in the NFL.

The Bay Area is the 6th largest media market in the US. The NFL wants to cash in on that, but they won't pay for a new stadium in Oakland. The owners want their cut of that market money, but not share the cost.

$tan Kroenke, the owner of the Rams, is the second richest owner in the NFL after the Seahawks' owner. That has a lot of $way. He doesn't want a team that is already massively popular in LA competing with him.

San Antonio is a slightly larger media market than Las Vegas, but there is no money to be made there because the Cowboys and Texans already dominate that market.

Las Vegas offers the best opportunity for a new stadium, but the market is small and unproven and the cranky old men would block it.

Raiders are fucked.
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>>67215978
okay yeah that was kinda retarded, it's not like he wasn't gonna be there in round 3 or 4
but spence is a legit 1st round pick that i mocked the bucs at 9 overall, i'm so impressed that they picked him up
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>>67215970
not brady's fault that goodell and the owners are salty faggots
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>>67215932
San Antonio isn't small, but it is a small market when you are the 32nd largest market in the US, competing directly with the #5 (Dallas) and #10 (Houston) markets which already have established fanbases in that city.
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>>67215988
man this is why i hate football. thanks for breaking it down, though. i just never understood why the nfl wouldn't move the raiders to LA when there was clearly more than enough support there. makes sense, now.
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Falcons day 3 wish list:

Deiondre' Hall
>extremely long athletic press corner, fits scheme

Charles Tapper
>good size, explosive and athletic, poorly utilized in college, high upside

Christian Westerman
>perfect zone blocking fit, 2nd round talent

Pharoh Cooper
>shifty, technician, underrated WR that is just long enough to play outside as well as in the slot

Charone Peake
>SPRAQ freak at WR, high upside, great speed and good length

Travis Feeney
>explosive Will LB, great closing speed, high upside

Dadi Nicolas
>super explosive Leo/Sam or 3-4 pass rushing prospect
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Hahahah Mason Crosby is shaking
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>>67215974
i was talking about the spurs btw
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>>67215987
can't wait to watch rodgers get gangbanged by him and ziggy
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the only other kicker i can remember being drafted was janikowski (17th pick god damn).

is this kid like really, really, insanely good?
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Ravens and Jags winning the draft. Pats, Foreskins, and Stoolers blowing the draft
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>Eli
>Beckham
>Cruz
>Shepherd, the best WR in the draft
>Harris
>Jennings

The Giants will have the best offense in the league.
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>>67216075
best kicker prospect since seabass, so yeah?
>>67216079
correa was the only good pick tho
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>>67216096
worth it then desu. seabass was worth the pick yeah i fucking said it.
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>7 picks tomorrow
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>>67216075
>>is this kid like really, really, insanely good?
Even so, there's no justifying taking him that high.

Maybe teams like Broncos, Patriots, Seahawks, etc. who go to conference championships year after year can afford to make a luxury move like that, but a great kicker isn't going to move along the Bucs rebuild any sooner.
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>>67216096
Every Ravens pick is a good pick
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>>67215807

A kicker, two LBs with dead knees, Fucking Hackenberg, and Black Tebow got drafted.

Did Connor Cook fuck a coach's wife or something?
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>>67215932

San Antonio is pretty much 3rd world tier breh
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>>67216137
>>Did Connor Cook fuck a coach's wife or something?
Wouldn't put it past him.

Apparently, no one has a single good thing to say about Cook as a person and especially not as a leader. No one likes him. Word is his own teammates hated him.
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Anyone watched a lot of film on Rankins? Not feeling great based on what I've seen so far.
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>>67216137
>Black Tebow
but Dak Prescott is still undrafted
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>With the 78th pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the New England Patriots AND Tom Brady select Joe Thuney, North Carolina State

What did he mean by this?
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>>67215850
do the skittles symbolize the rainbow of the gay community
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>>67216137
>Black Tebow
You mean Brissett?
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>>67216234
I think he was sticking up for Tom Brady. He cheated, but he's still a hommie.
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>>67216234
Tom wanted to bring home a new bull for his wife.
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>>67216121
i mean seabass was like one of the least retarded raiders 1st picks of the 00s lol, but both were reaches
spence and hargreaves make up for him so far though, bucs doing a good ass job
>>67216129
>stanley over tunsil
keeek
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So we all agree the Jags won the draft, right?
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>>67216310
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>>67216121

Only partially. Vonn Bell would have been a bigger upgrade at a position of need.
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>>67216338
Saints fan here, how does Bell's film look?
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>meanwhile, vernon adams

fuck it might as well complete the chip kelly combo set
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>>67216310
The raiders lions jags broship domination
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>>67216374
wasn't armstead actually good though
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Just watched first Treadwell interview for the Vikings

Does it mean you're a little retarded if you say (um) between every sentence? I can't tell what to think of it, I want to be excited, but he seems so unhappy.
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Can we all stop for a minute and laugh at Grigson and the Colts drafting Le'Raven fucking Clark?
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>>67216453
nah, you're just in a bad mood
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>>67216453
>Does it mean you're a little retarded if you say (um) between every sentence?
No, it means you're not totally comfortable talking to the media and/or you're trying to choose your words carefully, to avoid getting sucked into the scandal that has incriminated your college teammate.

Also, even if he was retarded, that wouldn't necessarily prevent him from being a great player.

You got the best receiver in the draft at #24, after 3 other WRs had already come off the board. You should be excited.
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>>67216382
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>>67216458
Also, why the fuck are the Texans stockpiling so many receivers?
>already have Hopkins
>draft Strong in 1st last year
>draft Fuller in 1st this year
>draft Miller in 3rd this year
Is Bill O about to try to unleash Brocklobster's inner dragon?
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>>67216419
supposedly in the sense that he's not supposed to be a muh stats guy, just to pry open offenses for errbody else

then again, only bowman was consistently good under eric fucking mangini
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>>67216453
Have some sympathy for the players. They all go into the draft hoping to get picked by Miami so they can move to South Beach. When they end up getting picked by a north country team that never wins anything like Minnesota they understandably get pretty depressed.
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>drafting a guy named Jihad
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>>67215940
No
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>>67215940

No. You avoided Bo Callahan, but that's about it.
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>3 rounds in
>best QB in the draft still on the board
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>>67216598
dak is shit
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>>67216598
>dark-skinned Tebow
>best QB
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>>67216604
Dank.

>>67216609
>I've never even seen him play.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_wS2LPeByw

Hyped to see Keanu play. Defense is radically different than it was a year ago for sure.
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>Bears actually had a good draft

god damnit
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>mfw fell asleep after the 70th pick
>mfw checked the results now
WHO THE FUCK IS CODY KESLER AND WHY HAVENT YOU STILL DRAFTED A DEFENSIVE BACK?
REEEEEEEEEEE I THOUGHT THIS NEW FRONT OFFICE WAS SMARR
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>>67216458
whats wrong with him?
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>>67216527
Their GM was secretly replaced by Matt Millen and nobody ever noticed
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>>67216722
>I THOUGHT THIS NEW FRONT OFFICE WAS SMARR
what gave you that idea?
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>>67216733
He is the embodiment of the prototypical dogshit Air Raid lineman.
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>>67216773
I'm pretty sure Grigson wanted to draft definitely-not-Coby Fleener instead
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who did the jaguars draft?
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>>67216790
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=who+did+the+jaguars+draft%3F
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>>67216722
Browns Browning once and forever
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>>67216812
dick
i wanna know whether they're any good
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>>67216245
DUDE TOLERANCE IS BAD LMAO
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>>67215988
No way Jerry will let a team move to San Antonio. That's his second largest market
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>>67216835
The best CB in the class and the best LB in the class (as long as his knee doesn't explode)

Basically they snagged two top 5 talents
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>>67216858
wow ok that's good
will they be good this year? this is my first year rooting for a team, i'm excited
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>>67216835
Jalen Ramsey is the best DB in this draft, should be a Pro Bowl-caliber player. I wanted him badly for my team but knew there was no way he would make it out of the top 5.
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>>67216867
I have them winning the division (and so do a lot of people from what I gather)
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>>67216885
>>67216896
yay
i'm watching some highlights on youtube, this ramsey guy looks really good
wish they would do something about the uniforms though
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>>67216867
I think they will continue their steady improvement, don't think they're a playoff team yet though. Their defense still needs work and they still don't have an OL or running game to speak of.
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>>67216916
>running game
Yeldon is pretty good and they signed Ivory.
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>>67216916
>defense still needs work
does drafting the top safety and top linebacker not help that much? i thought they also had some guy from last year coming back this year who was good...
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Who still needs a quarterback this year that might take Conner Cook?

I'm thinking the Bears might want to start thinking about a replacement for Cutler.

Dallas should be working on replacing Romo, but they won't because he's fucking Jerry's daughter.

Maybe the Saints?
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>>67216896
>>67216915
I actually played against Ramsey in high school, he is legit.

Winning the AFCS might be a little ambitious. I think the Colts have serious problems right now. However, the Texans have a solid defense and the personnel moves they're making are interesting to me. I also think the Titans have some reasons to be optimistic. I'd still say Texans should be the favorites, but I think 7 or 8 wins and 2nd place in the division is realistic for Jacksonville.
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>>67216681
we musketeers now baby
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Just hand us the NFC championship already
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Cardinals 3rd round picks that's fucking insane
1991: CB Aeneas Williams (59)
1990: WR Ricky Proehl (58)
2001: SS Adrian Wilson (64)
2002: Josh McCown (81)
2004: DT Darnell Dockett (64)
2009: S Rashad Johnson (95)
2010: WR Andre Roberts (88)
2013: DB Tyrann Mathieu (69)
2014: WR John Brown (91)
2015: RB David Johnson (86)
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>>67216954
The Texans are garbage. They still don't have a legitimate quarterback and their defense is actually crap but JJ Watt hides that fact really well.

Remember that Brock is the same guy that let Mack sack him five (5) times in the second half of a game against the Raiders and ended up blowing a game where the Raiders had like -40 yards in the first half.
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>>67216943
I think the defense can be average. They replaced like half of the starters in free agency and the draft and they have a top 5 pick from last year's draft coming back from injury
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>>67216954
.500 is ok i guess
is blake bortles actually good? his stats last year were really good i thought
>>67216984
right the fowler guy
will he be good even with the injury?
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>>67216943
I don't know how good Jack will be coming off his injury, same with Fowler. The rest of their defensive personnel don't blow me away. Malik Jackson should help their DL. Ramsey will probably play corner, which should give them a decent secondary, so we'll see. Houston still has the best defense in the division, though.
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>>67216932
yeldon was Amari Cooper's sidekick on the Alabama 2012 chamionship squad (as a true freshman). He split carries with Eddie Lacy. He is doing things in Green Bay from what Ive heard.

In 2013 Yeldon was the star running back for an Alabama squad that was seemingly destined to repeat (undefeated coming into the last game of the reg season) until the kick six happened. By the way that play will be one of the most infamous plays in sports history ever in case you need some insight. Amari Cooper had a 99yd reception in that game...fuck me

2014 Yeldon was mostly the premier guy in an offense that started to split some carries with a guy called Derrick Henry. Team made the playoffs and got fucked by a Buckeyes squad that tonight broke the record for most players EVER taken in the first 1-3 rounds in the NFL draft ever. Even more than the infamous Miami class.

basically what Im saying is that Yeldon is the most underrated bama back drafted in the Saban era and barring a gruesome injury should give the jags a reliable 3 down back for years to come


t. Alabama fan that has been in love with Yeldon from his first game
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>>67216949
>drafting Conner Meme
For what purpose?
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Shon coleman

Survived cancer and got masters degree only to be drafted by the Browns
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>>67216980
>They still don't have a legitimate quarterback
They won the division last year with a shitty QB.

>and their defense is actually crap but JJ Watt hides that fact really well.
No, he definitely elevates them but they have other good players. They have a great group of LBs and CBs.
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>>67217018
ok so the defense will be decent? and the offense? it seems like the passing game is really good and that the running game could be good
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>>67217027
Nope, you actually didn't.
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Post YFW you realize Goff has to play against seattle and AZ defenses 4 times a year. Both teams have elite front sevens and secondaries
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>>67217072
I forgot they got Ivory. He and Yeldon should be a decent pair of backs, but their OL still doesn't look very good to me, so that could hurt their production.
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>>67217072
Offense can be borderline elite. Their only weakness is O-line which should still be improved from last year.

I think defense will be about average with the right coaching
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>>67217078
how have i never seen this. saved
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>>67217025

>>most underrated back in Saban Era

>>least overrated back

Ftfy
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>>67217089
ivory the jets guy? wow they have more talent then i thought
who is the starter, yeldon or ivory?
>>67217095
glad to hear it, the reason i chose them was because i like allen robinson
he is very good at jump balls
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>>67217027
That's stupid. Why would you do that?

This makes more sense.
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>>67217122
>who is the starter, yeldon or ivory?
I would guess Ivory based on how well he played last year, but he's getting older and will be behind a bad OL, so it may be about 50/50.
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>>67217095
Jags fans should expect growing pains next season but the defense will truly be elite after that (assuming Jack's knees dont give out). Dline is stacked. Secondary will be scary. Just have to make sure the linebackers live up to their potential.

offense is a toss-up. Could end up being the mediocre part of the team that keeps them from being a true contender or could end up being a force if Bortles, yeldon, and the wr corps keeps progressing
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not to shit on the jag's parade, but what transformed them from up and coming to bretty damned good this offseason? did gabbert become more consistent? is the franchise making good moves? i know their 1st rounder was a great pickup but that's all i really know.
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>>67217095
You can't be a borderline elite offense with a shitty OL, unless your QB is HOF-tier stud.
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>>67217167
>gabbert
m8
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>>67217167
>gabbert
Lad
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>>67217167
>gabbert
senpai
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>>67217159
i would prefer yeldon, but i've seen more of him so i'm biased

alright /nfl/, thanks for the info, i need to go to class now
go jags
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>>67217168
I wouldn't call it a shitty OL, it's far from being elite but it's also not nearly as bad as the dumpster fire O-lines like Seahawks, Chargers, Lions or Titans. I'd say they were below average and stand to improve this year
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>>67217180
>>67217186
>>67217200
lmao sorry guys. bortles.

still had the inept jags on the mind.
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>>67217117
nah. Ingram was put in a shitty situation playing for a regressing Saints organization that doesnt allow RBs to shine. Given all that he has started to come into his own after the past season and is their premier back.

Lacy will continue to be a key cog in a packers squad that contends for championships every season.

I will admit Richardson ended up being the player that keeps the bama RB meme alive. He at least signed with the ravens and could still have a career as a backup in the NFL. Better than some other NFL busts
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>>67217167
Gabbert isn't on their team anymore and hasn't been for a couple years. Blake bortles is a good qb, they have two great wide receivers and a solid TE. Their defense has been looking up every year and is going to be even better this year with Ramsey, jack and dante Fowler jr who missed all last year due to injury
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>>67215940
Does it matter...You're the browns
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>>67216714
Last years draft was good too. Most of our rookies started. Im really excited for this year though, more so than last year. The front 7 is scary. Anyway, you should be honing your hate at the packers fag.
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>>67217167
>Gabbert
Foo
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>>67216949
I wouldn't be suprised if Bears took him honestly
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>>67215947
You're right but trading up to the second round for a kicker kinda out does all the good in the draft for the bucs. Panthers, falcons, saints, bucs in that order and that is final
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>>67216722
>REEEEEEEEEEE I THOUGHT THIS NEW FRONT OFFICE WAS SMARR

Why on Earth would you think that?
>tfw I can't find the Les Mis edit of the Browns fan hugging her daughter
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>>67217303

What the fuck were they thinking? For what fucking purpose?
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>>67216079
I'm not a redskins fan at ask but how exactly are the redskins blowing it?>>67216310
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Who's gonna draft scooby wright? Cards cuz az, texans? He would have been a 2nd rounder or late first if he played all year
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>>67216310
I'm not a jags fan but yes I do
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>>67217369

pack
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>>67216645
Fuck the falcons
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>>67217330
literally 3 seconds on google
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>>67217298

cutlet needs someone to keep him on his toes desu

fales clearly isn't doing that
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>>67217400
I agree, but they've had a good draft so far.
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>>67217333
They are sucking this dudes dick because he has never missed a kick under 40 yards
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>>67217282
I don't like when any NFCN team starts looking good but I'll be happy if you guys kick the shit out of the packers twice a year
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>>67217333
I think he's going to be worth it if he's actually good and stays for a long time.

Bucs were the worst kicking team in the league last season and I'm pretty sure the picks they traded for him were the picks they got from trading down in the 1st round while still getting their guy
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>>67217406
And yet, you still did it for me.

Thank you.
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>>67217282
The problem is that the GM may be a fucking idiot. I find it hard to believe the GM knows how to draft defense at this point. All those rookies starting means nothing when they are the worst defense in the NFL. With Fox and Friends the Bears are making smart moves. This could be the year they start becoming the team they deserve to be. But if the defense can't preform again, the GM seriously needs to get axed before the trade deadline. Ryan Pace looks like a faggot from a blacked video.
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>>67217431
>Bucs were the worst kicking team in the league

that's impossible, Jason Myers exists
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>>67217429
I get it, but to be honest the Vikes are the only other team I don't despise in this division. The Lions and Packers can fuck themselves. You can too if you are challenging the bears for a playoff spot, but less so than the other two.
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>>67217369
Scooby a shit
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>>67217431
The fact isn't whether or not he's good the fact is you guys not only picked a kicker in the second round which is fucking retarded. You traded up to pick him nobody was going to pick him in the second
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>>67216026
>tfw went to high school with Deiondre Hall

What am I doing with my life lads?
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>>67217446
Maybe not outright the worst but they kicked the 2nd most FGs and were making them at the 3rd worst rate, so it was pretty shambolic
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Should I get a Jack or Ramsey jersey? I haven't bought a jersey since mjd but I'm hyped now.
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>>67217438
>GM came from Saints FO
So his offensive picks will be studs and his defensive picks will bust.
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>>67217438
Pace took over when Fox did. Emery was the retard fucking us during the Long era draft. Pace has had 2 drafts and 2 off seasons and has turned the defense around.
I like Pace a lot to be honest, and picking up all these LBs while fucking the packers over is making me a happy dude.
>>67217431
Still. It's a kicker in the 2nd round. They could have waited. There is no excuse.
>>67217418
I know that Pace and Fox are looking for a QB after the 2nd, so we will take someone here. Connor may fit. Fales isn't awful, but he's not a day one competitor, he is someone who slowly works up. He will be a decent backup I think which is why the Bears elevated him from the practice squad.
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>>67217418

fyi that's really the difference between the packers and the rest of the NFCN (and most of the NFL) when it comes to QB.

the packers have a very competitive QB program, and they keep it that way through a lot of intervention.

you stop harboring it, and it stagnates/regresses. it's applicable to most positions, though.
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>>67217489
Ramsey because Jack will always be an injury risk
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>>67217438
>Ryan Pace looks like a faggot from a blacked video
oh shit he does
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>>67217507
>the packers have a very competitive QB program
kek yeah matt flynn was really challenging rodgers all those years
the packers got lucky that two generational talents fell into their lap, don't try and make it sound like it was a fucking master stroke of coaching
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>>67216122
>eight (8) picks tomorrow
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>>67216259
this
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>>67217438
>But if the defense can't preform again, the GM seriously needs to get axed before the trade deadline

This is only his second year
Firing people so knee jerky and having a revolving door at GM or Coaches kills a team.

Im not sure how you can honestly think that they would fire someone that quickly, or that they are going to be able to completely from the ground up rebuild a defense that was completely dead.
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>naming your kid after an anthropomorphic dog from 70's cartoon show
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>>67217975
That movie was an abomination
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How would you feel if this happened?
>Raiders to LV
>Expansion teams in SA, SLC, Portland, and STL
>Three six-team divisions per conference
>Season expands to 22 games (Two games vs each divisional opponent, one conference division, and one opposing conference division)
>Playoffs remain at 12 teams, but now it's the six division winners and six wildcards. Top two seeds in each conference still get first round bye.
>Draft moved to end of March
>Preseason starts in June
>Season starts in July
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>>67217994
Upon further thought I realize that I've fucked up the division scheduling because if the AFC West is playing the AFC Central, the AFC East has nobody to play.

Please ignore that and pretend I didn't suffer a head injury when I crashed my motorcycle a few hours ago.
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>>67218040
Were you wearing a helmet?
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>>67218044
Yes, although I wish I wasn't because then I wouldn't have to deal with the heartbreak of hurting my baiku.
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Holy shit hahahahaha the Bucs drafted a fucking kicker in the 2nd round, my sides are in orbit

Browns-tier franchise
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>>67218050
that you Roethlisberger
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>>67218092
Not only did they draft him, they traded up to get him
Dude is a flaming faggot too
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>>67218092
Aguero is one of the GOAT kickers ever tho tbqh. And kickers are becoming more relevant witht he extra point rule changes and also watching teams miss playoff advancement becuase they miss chip shots (minnesota).

let's save the laughing for when Aguero misses a field goal. other than that there will be teams who drafted players in the 1st and 2nd round that will accomplish less than Aguero in their careers
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>toxins stockpiling receivers

what an embarrassing franchise
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>>67217994
Vegas would be a terrible place for an NFL team for several reasons.

40-team league here
>8 expansion teams (London, Toronto, OKC, San Antonio, STL, SLC, Sacramento, Portland)
>Raiders to LA
>Cardinals logo to STL expansion, AZ team becomes Vipers
>NYG become New Jersey Giants
>NYJ to Manhattan
>Washington R******s renamed Warriors
>NFCE: Eagles, Warriors, Giants, Cowboys, Cardinals
>AFCE: Patriots, Dolphins, Monarchs, Jets, Bills
>NFCN: Packers, Lions, Bears, Mounties, Vikings
>AFCN: Steelers, Browns, Bengals, Ravens, Colts
>NFCS: Saints, Buccaneers, Jaguars, Falcons, Panthers
>AFCS: Texans, Oilers, Titans, Scorpions, Chiefs
>NFCW: Seahawks, 49ers, Lumberjacks, Rams, Vipers
>AFCW: Statesmen, Raiders, Chargers, Dragons, Broncos
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>>67218092
Falcons are a shittier franchise desu.
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>>67218205
The Raiders look like they're moving regardless.

40 teams is way too many though.

2/10 see me after class.
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>>67218154
Are you fucking with me?
He played only ONE SEASON, and made 21-22 field goals. He was perfect in PATs, but there are a lot of kickers that have and will do that.

He had a good run, but knew that he had better declare for the draft before he plays more college ball and his luck and hype runs out

Do you know the type of talent that was being taken there in the middle of the second round that the Bucs passed on?
Wasted a fourth rounder to trade up to get him too.

If I were a bucs fan, I would be livid
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>>67218170
>not realizing that Bill-O is about to unleash Brocklobster's inner dragon spirit animal
>DeAndre Hopkins
>Cecil Shorts
>Jaelen Strong
>Will Fuller
>Braxton Miller
>empty set every play
>just fucking chuck it to whoever
>Madden-tier offense
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>>67218230
40 teams is perfect, the expansions almost all reach into new media markets, and create some geographic balance as the West has too few teams for the number of people and large population centers there.
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>>67218249
>Cecil Shorts
washed up
>Jaelen Strong
bust
>Will Fuller
manlet
>Braxton Miller
slotbabby
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>>67218329
>washed up
Not at all for a #2-3 receiver

>bust
Probably, yeah.

>manlet
Great body control though, always good for a circus catch.

>slotbabby
Even if that weren't wrong, why would it matter? Production helps you win, doesn't matter whether it comes from the outside or the slot.
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>drafting players that couldn't beat a team that got BTFO by Alabama

I shiggy diggy doo
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Reminder that the Bucs actually traded up to draft a kicker in the 2nd.
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>>67216838
Tolerance does not mean what you think it means.
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>going into round 4
>Andrew Billings is still available
B-bears?
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>Not one post in this thread about the Packers is from a Packer fan
>theyre all from butthurt Bear, Viking and Lion cucks
Is there a shittier division in all of football? You fucks should be embarrassed.

t. Cardfag.
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>>67218600
>trying to attach yourself to another team so nobody knows you're a packerfag
there aren't even any lions posts ITT except >>67216322
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>>67218661
Literally never been to the midwest in my life. Would never set foot in any of the hovels you call home rofl. Stay mad though. Youre obsessed over them like a scorned lover. Its hilarious.
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>>67218680
probably because spics don't like the cold
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>>67218680
>Literally never been to the midwest in my life
Sounds like a Packerfag to me
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>>67218690
Im a white trustfund babby nice try though.
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>>67218698
I guess I set myself up for that one. Still not a puckerfag.
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>>67216609
Numbers wise they're comparable but Dak doesn't have a retarded throwing motion
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>drafting a kicker in the second round

I'm still mad. I can see Aguayo getting flusttered when fans start giving him shit for being a second rounder and missing a single kick.
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> Kapernick
> Bradford
> Fitzpatrick
> Glennon
> Garaffalo
> Hoyer

So what happens to the unloved QB's?
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>>67218904
Kaep, Bradford and Glennon are trapped in their team situations

Woppolo is probably going to start unless Belichick got converted to memery

Hoyer will command a cash register somewhere
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>>67217078
>seahawks
>still have an elite secondary

Nope.jpg
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Did you guys see Tunsil shaking up a Gangster Disciples handshake after he was drafted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhCOEgA0ax4

Its GD not blood like it says in the video.
Still, why are you throwing gang shit while on national television?
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>>67218990
>smokes bong on camera, claims to be "hacked"
>admits that a school paid him in post-draft interview

you know why
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>>67217579
Flynn was good. He was just constantly injured. McCarthy made Rodgers into what he was. You're going to be so mad when the Packers' next starting QB is top 3 in the league.
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What the hell is the Browns game plan?

What will they use their last 8 picks on?
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>>67219021
>McCarthy made Rodgers into what he was.
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>>67218205

>NYJ to Manhattan

Have you ever BEEN to Manhattan? To build a stadium there for the Jests would cost 70 billion dollars and thats just for the property.

Also
>Sending a team BACK to St Louis after they just lost their team.

ALSO also:

>Renaming the Skins

ALSO also also

>lol 5 teams in California

ALSO also also also

>Vipers

0/10 lrn 2 basically do everything.
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>>67218205
this is bad and you should feel bad
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>>67218904
Garrop has been behind brady for awhile, and belichick likes him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the pats keep him after this four game stretch.
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>>67219366
I think Jimmy G could get the pats a future first rounder and a current 2nd.. in the 8-15 range

I can see a team wanting to take a chance on him rather than trading 2 years away for one player
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Cowboys team doctor is the one that did the surgery on jaylon smith's leg
THE COWSHITS CANT KEEP DOING THIS
ONLY SO MANY WILL END UP BUSTING HOLY SHIT
THEYRE BOUND TO GET A FUCKONG STEAL SOON ENOUGH
>Also, why is blacked primarily the only porn of blue eyed blond hair women
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>>67219442
cowboys not taking manziel saved the franchise
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>>67219439
>I think Jimmy G could get the pats a future first rounder
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY
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>>67219464
Hes had 2 years under the best qb and coach of all time, id rather him than goff, maybe wentz
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>>67219464
the qb market is pretty crazy
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>>67219439
Is this like when Pats fans thought Ryan Mallett was worth a second rounder, then Belichick traded him away for basically pennies?
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>>67219493

There have been plenty of QB's behind Brady on the Pats and none have gone on to be that great. There simply isn't enough recent tape of Jimmy to say. He could be mediocre or he could be like Aaron Rodgers and turn out great thanks for riding the bench for a few years.
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>>67219493
>Hes had 2 years under the best qb and coach of all time
That worked for Rodgers, Young, and that's basically it. Far more QBs in similar situations go on to be colossal busts.
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So what the fuck is with the Jets QB situation?

Fitzpatrick maybe coming back? Geno was showing some improvement before losing the locker room and getting laid the fuck out is going to be the starter? Hackenberg is raw as fuck and probably needs to sit for 2 years?
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How long until the draft lads?
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Caron Wentz better develop into Peyton manning TDs + Aaron Rodgers low into ratio
Holy shit bros
Why does the rest of the NFC e get good as soon ad the eagles drop their meme fucking coach
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>>67219723

4 hours and 10 mins
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>>67219723
Four bongs eight bings
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>>67219746
>>67219757
Cheers lads
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>>67219718

Don't forget the Jets still have Bryce Petty
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so the pats pretty much confirmed that garoppolo is shit
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>>67219831
We all already knew that desu
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>>67219831

Maybe.

They could be planning to have a backup for the 4 games Jimmy starts and/or maybe they know Tom's retirement is closer than we know
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anybody else happy with their teams draft so far?
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>>67219890
>lions drafting for need and fixing all our weaknesses

Pretty happy, based Quinn is doing a good job
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>pats drafting a black QB
sean BTFO
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>>67218154
Pick was def way too high for a kicker but not as bad as some think. Bucs lost a number of games last year due to kicking game and as mentioned no longer are XPs gonna XPs. Aguyao was going to get drafted higher regardless and some mocks had him going in the 3rd but almost assuredly 4th. With the kicking rule changes, the most accurate kicker in NCAA history is gonna get taken earlier than conventional wisdom would suggest he should.

The one thing I really hate about the logic behind it is Bucs used a "free" 4th rounder to move up they got from Bears in round 1. Technically that's true since they still got their guy in Harvrgreaves. But there were so many other moves that they could've made and possibly still got Aguyao.

Like usual, truth lies somewhere in the middle. Was it a good move? Absolutely not but there are others that are far more cringe-worthy.
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>>67219890
Pretty happy. B+ draft so far.
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>>67219068
Cement our D and build up the O a bit. I think Huehue has a plan
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>>67219890
I probably shouldn't be but I think the Browns are, at the least relatively, doing well
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based jerry cucks the cheatriots once again
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>another poor soul gets to become an ex-browns QB after RG3 gets injured during summer practice in Berea

Damnit
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>>67216977
Your defense apparently disagrees.
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Jags are basically a guarantee to make the playoffs with ease if not this year, then definitely next year, correct?
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>>67220333
isnt that lexplorer?


any updates on him lately?
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So what are the Jets' logic with taking Hackenberg?
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>>67220402
What gives you that idea?
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>>67220402
They have so much talent now on both offense and defense it would be pathetic if they couldn't win the AFCS.
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>>67220459
What is >our logic with taking that literal who from USC instead of a much-needed defensive back?
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>>67220524
>not trusting based Jackson

We'll pick one up today
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>>67215945

Cyrus Jones was a quality pick at least.
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Get in here jags and lion bros, the triumvirate rises.
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>>67220539
I just think that it's an absolute waste of a pick for this current team to get a quarterback this early. Should have been an ILB or a DB.
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>>67220556
>burrs
>ever making the playoffs
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>>67220556
>>67220684
LGTSS
>clods
>texicans
>titties
>being over .500
>winning the AFC South
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Anyone else a little concerned that Kamalei Correa was a total steal and the Ravens just drafted the second coming of Ray Lewis?
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>>67220737
>second coming of Ray Lewis?
Whom will he murder?
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>>67220556
What triumvirate? The lions can suck plenty without having you two teams making us even worse
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