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>>66355591
>he doesnt play as the tractor cunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX6l1xenwz0
>when the engine development tokens come on too strong
>tfw just learned that Romanians and Romani are not the same thing
I have a renewed respect for people from Romania.
nth for Can't Paas the Haas
>>66355480
>Automobilista
My man
>>66355457
>>66355589
In dire need of answers.
>>66355650
The red mist descended upon him.
He was pissed off and driving angry because of the bungled pit stop and being stuck behind his team-mate.
>>66355644
heres roma scum for you
nth for Bahrain predictions
NORMAL MODE: no HAM ROS VET/ROS HAM VET
HARD MODE: only one Merc/Ferrari
how do you get a qt f1 girlfriend bros?
>>66355688
are they stealing crumbs from pigeons? kek, i ate a loaf of bread today and threw another away lol
I agreed with Ferrari's aggressive strategy.
It would've worked as long as Vettel created enough of a gap to make the next pit stop. but the super softs didn't give him enough laps. They should've been fast enough though being on two compounds softer than Mercedes. It just shows how far the gap really is between Ferrari and Mercedes. Ferrari couldn't build a 20 second gap despite being two compounds softer than Mercedes on the harder medium tyre.
Ferrari could've gone with the Softs after the red flag to get more laps in that one stint and then put on the super softs at the very end. But the delta between the soft and medium tyre isn't as big so you go with the faster super softs to try and build the gap.
>>66355708
Get a girlfriend like a regular person and express you have interest in F1 and invite her to come over to your place saturday night to cuddle/watch F1
>>66355750
no psv fans making gypsies do shit and throwing coins at them
>>66355759
>Get a girlfriend like a regular person
uhmmm
>>66355753
almost looks like he got launched
>>66355707
>prediction game
>can't make a prediction that will most likely be true
this is like old sports vidya which applies a high difficulty by making your team AI play like shit.
>>66354294
>horner
>bernie jr
fuck that. bring mosley back for one last term. better the devil you know. todt is ineffective as fuck.
>>66354481
nah. cucko has a boner for german hamilton - it'll be him.
#bringbackmaxmosley
>>66355759
No one finds motorsport interesting here, they only "care" about football (mainly Real Madrid or Barcelona) or nfl (just to impress guys), I tried that for the Brazil GP last year and the girl was asking me how much was left to it evrery 5 minutes even though i pointed the lap counter to her
>>66355707
Q:
MASSA
MASSA
MASSA
R:
MASSA
MASSA
MASSA
>>66355890
i think current sports vidya stills does that
>>66355897
Then she's just a dumb slut to bang and toss out, Mexibro. Girlfriends will actually try and take an interest in your interests.
Does anyone by chance have a webum of Massa's start at silverstone last year?
>>66355707
Haas gets 2-4 points if Alonso doesn't fuck over FatJean like he did Guti
>>66355953
yeah I figured that out and were only dating for like two weeks and left her like two days after that, but I haven't got a gf since then and it's already a new season, such is life.
>>66356041
Doesn't matter Mexibro, it'll happen when it happens. Until then fuck club sluts if you need, then kick them out at 6 am so you can watch the F1.
>>66356002
fugggg did he ded
>>66356109
That's some thrilling wheel-to-wheel racing right there, I tell ya
>>66356002
This is my only instance of watching F1 where I literally thought someone had just been killed.
>>66356301
no but he keeps trying
>>66356370
I dunno about you but I thought the same in Suzuka 2014
>>66356387
;_;
So, is the Merc vulnerable on launches, or did Vettel lunch his gearbox to get a launch like that? Does the Merc have ANY other weaknesses?
>>66356387
We never saw it in the broadcast though, they basically just said they thought Bianchi was in there too and he may have hit the tractor-cunt
>>66356422
Two others:
>slow when following other cars if it's anything like the 2014 and 2015 cars (ie bad at dealing with dirty air)
>Hamilton and Rosberg are currently far from being among the best drivers on the grid
>>66356422
Merc's clutch tends to overheat when there's a second formation lap (i.e. Hungary and Spa 2015)
>>66356434
m8 just knowing that they wouldn't show a replay even though we know they had at least 2 cameras trained on that location was enough context to know it was bad news
>>66356422
it was vulnerable last year after the change, which mercedes swiftly rectified.
ferraris have always started well off the line
>>66356387
>rewatching that race
>Brundle keeps saying how much he hates tractors through out the race even prior to Bianchi's crash
>no one really knowing what's going on with the medical car at the scene, then the red flag, and the general disarray at the end
pretty spooky
>>66356444
Yeah I went back to my earlier post and realized that I didn't specify that I meant that we literally saw (visually) someone die. Not just experience it during the race.
>>66356461
The spookiest. How he was so quiet after a bit when it dawned on him that it had actually happened and that he was right.
>>66356461
and then the camera in the pitlane following Graeme Lowdon who looked like he'd just seen a ghost ;_;
>>66356461
>Brundle keeps saying how much he hates tractors
Isn't that because he hit a tractor, too? The things should be banned, or only used under the SC or VSC
>>66356124
haha thanks Canada
>>66356381
Is Kubica the general motorsports Maldonado?
>>66356524
There'd been a lot of close calls too, people always pointed out how unsafe it was, but nobody cared.
All things considered this is going to be a good season. The pack is closer from top to bottom, and different circuits should favor different cars. Sadly though the the performance 'cliff' claimed by Pirelli seems to be more of a small slope than anything else.
>>66356524
No he hit a Japanese man. I agree, but I also think that it would be much safer if they just attached like 2-feet worth of barriers material surrounding the tractor itself which went all the way to the ground and up to the windows, like a full-length skirt kinda. Still safer under VSC/SC though.
I tried to draw in paint but realized I'm retarded and can't into 3D space on a 2D image.
>>66356002
That is fucking crazy how technology is able to prevent people from dying from that. Absolutely blows my mind.
>>66355633
>hmm yes 4 wheels
>just like ours
>>66356663
what could he possibly be looking for/at
>>66356685
Honestly with all the time he spends, you know, driving, this was probably the first time in years he was like a spectator at a race. Who wouldn't want to go check out the cars?
>>66356701
I really, really HATE this picture
>>66356713
he did it as well when vettel won last year
>>66356728
>>66356685
>>66356713
>they can't possibly be better than me
>there must be something illicit on their car
>they're cheating, that is the only way they can be beating me
>this is what shamilton actually believes
>>66356685
aero stuff, diffusers, exhaust, etc. fuck if i know, i just watch the things go in around really fast in what is essentially a circle
>>66356685
He is either performing for the camera or just bored
I remember he did this before with Ferrari at the end of some race.
>>66356685
Hey was trying to see what tires they had fitted.
>>66356753
Pretty much this.
He looked like the Stig trying to figure out public transport.
Lets never forget the work of the brilliant minds running this sport.
>>66356891
needs infinite tyres and refueling so they stop saving
>>66355677
Dubs confirm Hamilton for being a little bitch.
>>66356002
I think this takes the cake for biggest F1 crash anyone has actually survived.
>>66356002
His head moving around is really sketchy, surprised he didn't snap his neck from how much it was being whipped around
>>66357189
that post is referring to Mad Amx and his tantrums about his pit stop and being stuck behind Sainz, almost losing it out of 12, and his little spin into 15 near the end of the race
still though, who is the biggest lil' bitch on the grid right now: HAM or VES? you could argue HAM should know better being an adult, but Max is more annoying and doesn't have the pressure of leading a championship team.
>>66357330
Verstappen is way more annoying but he kinda gets a pass because he's 18 and Jos has probably fucked up his social skills for life. HAM is by far the worst because he has pretty much no right to bitch about anything ever, and because he has legions of fans that claim that he never does this and refuse to call a spade a spade, because surely they're just "jealous" or "racist" or a "hater". There was a bit of that after Aus GP from amx fans and it worries me because I want to like him.
Has anyone started bingo for the Kebab Island race? If not, requesting 'Mad Max Multitasking Drifting'.
>>66357545
Multitrack, even. Fuck you autocorrect.
Why is this sport so easy?
>>66357483
We just claimed that Max was right.
>tfw watching 1996 F1
God it was so based...
>>66356619
>technology
you mean god
>>66357602
Ask hamilton
>>66357237
>Not Martin Donnely
You need to lrn2f1
>>66357778
>pic related
>>66357792
dat lotus tho
>>66357330
I was referring to the webm, you fucking seppo. Are all of your kind this arrogant?
>>66357778
Or Rubens Barrichello in Imola
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpWl0tUZHSE
>>66357792
Complete F1 noob here, but I have a question that has been on my mind for a while.
How often do people die in F1 racing? It seems like it must be the most dangerous sport on the planet. I've seen many gifs and webms of crashes and it blows my mind that people can survive some of these accidents. How many people die in a given year?
>>66357923
Tractor cunt decides who lives and dies.
>>66357923
But seriously
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_fatalities
Until the 80s there were a lot deaths
After that, in official sessions, there were 2 deaths in the 80s, 2 in the 90s and than we stayed 20 years without any deaths until Bianchi in 2014
>>66357923
The last death in F1 was in 2014, but before that we haven't had one since 1994
>>66355633
> I can't pass this car
"Where is the catch?"
>>66357923
including other forms of racing usually like 0-2 people die at a high level every year, sometimes 3 or 4 but rarely more than that. for example i've watched racing intensely since 2005-2006, probably around 60-100 races per year in various series, and it doesn't feel like i've seen more than maybe 10-15 deaths live
>>66358155
almost definitely less than 10 actually, more like 6 or 7
>>66358088
>>66358128
Driver, yes. But we have had martials and other people die during a grand prix weekend, like montreal a few years back when they were towing off someone's car and a some guy was run over.
>>66357866
If you applied a weighting for the safety of the cars, too, Rubens takes the biscuit for sure, if you're not counting Donnelly.
just read about the GDPA statement about the F1 circus
i'm confused and disappointed that it won't change anything
>>66355753
>tfw saw it happen in front of me
>tfw can see myself in that webm
Top wew
During a crash are the drivers told to let go of the steering wheel?
A thread or two ago with all the crash webms it looked that way with the exception of one that held on for longer than the others. It must be such a difficult thing to remember to do during a potentially life or death moment.
>>66359031
Yeah the impact can kick the wheels one way or the other which will translate to the steering wheel and can injure your arms. Also, if you have time, it allows you to adopt a brace position which can lessen injuries as well.
really hope COTA stays on the calendar.
the home team need a home GP.
and it's the best layout out of the modern crop of Tilkedromes.
keep donating bitcoins through paypal on the COTA website. Anything to please Bernie. Give Bernie everything he wants.
If femanons have any extra unwanted children we can prepare the human sacrifice.
Lewis got a little taste of his own medicine on the start.
at least this time Nico stuck his elbows out instead of bending over for Hamilton.
never give up kimi.
with the new pushrod suspension instead of pullrod you'll be able to out duel Vettel.
>>66358982
that's pretty cool.
I am one of the original if not THE original /haas/ poster, I feel like I personally have contributed to the success of the team in terms of internet and social media marketing. Therefore, I would like to claim the placeholder /haas/ shitposter, disregard all other posts from this flag unless designated with a /haas/ signature. Remember. Can't Pass The Haas!
>>66359230
was that the "gust of wind" he was talking about post race?
>>66359359
RARE
1ST SIGHTING FOR ME
>>66359359
yep
undeniable physical proof that Lewis is God's chosen driver #blessed
>>66357311
without HANS, he would have died, yes.
>>66359605
he's just scoping out how hard the tape deck will be to steal
>>66356351
>>66356109
No, this is not exciting the current regulations are shit. This is not what the fans want to see! Overtaking should be easier and limited to DRS zones ONLY. You can't just let the regulations be what they are and have good racing occur naturally, you have to engineer it with tires, DRS, handicaps, reverse grids, new qualis etc.
What a joke why would anyone want to see stuff like this
BTW it's pretty much confirmed that Verstappen fucked up his own strategy when pitting after Sainz.
I think the Toro Rosso boys are honestly just expecting too much from the car and are pushing it more than others without any real pragmatic regard for the tire deg (this is obviously a fault in F1 but it's something a driver should be able to adapt to). Now that the engineer cannot "make" the strategy for the driver and tell the driver how his pace is and how much life is left in his tires, it's just clear that Max fucked up. He was losing speed but was still lapping faster than most other cars on the same tire, and because he was feeling tire deg he decided the tires were done and had to pit, even though he was still faster than others around him.
What a hothead
>>66359605
What is he doing?
>>66359690
I don't think anyone was denying this, it's fairly clear that he went in when the team wasn't ready because he didn't make his desires clear and just complained.
>>66359794
Yeah I don't mean just the failed communication, I mean that it was a failure in actual strategy as well. He felt as if his tires were so done that he needed a new set, despite lapping faster than other cars.
>>66357923
I'd say Top Fuel Hydro is quite a bit more dangerous. Most forms of motorsport require bravery; I think Top Fuel Hydro requires a death wish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t43zdpJuwIM
>UK Fans Won’t Get To Watch A Single Race On Free-To-Air TV From 2019
>>66359855
That is seriously some of the stupidest stuff. How many people die in that annually?
This is also pretty high up on the list of stupid things to do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZKqhvch3mU
>racing in a figure 8
>like 30 cars
>tiny track
>THREE HOURS NONSTOP
Why would anybody want to be doing this
>>66359846
Ah, fair point, although honestly you could argue that if he's lapping at that pace on tyres he feels have a lack of grip, putting him on fresher ones may have allowed him to make progress much faster; the sensation of losing grip is enough to probably bring caution to even hotheads like mad amx.
>>66359992
And they still fucking wonder why viewing figures are dropping. F1 is just going to fall into utter obscurity.
i did some thought and i can't think of a single way that F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport
>>66359996
One could argue that the Formula 1 of decades ago was equally stupid - and yet some people hold those years in the highest regard.
The Figure 8 stuff strikes me as similar to the Formula 1 sprint to the first turn: F1 fans love the titillation of the fear a crash, and because of that it's the most exciting part of the race. Except the Figure 8 guys do it all race long.
Though I can imagine having all those Figure 8 drivers so close to each other must be pretty upsetting for a person from Finland!
Vettel has nowhere to but down
>>66359690
>>66359846
yeah, it was strange because usually the leading car of the two teammates gets called in the pits first. It's a bad result considering the Toro Rossos were running up in 4th and 5th early on.
Toro Rosso don't want to admit that they have a "#1 driver", the team doesn't want to be seen as favoring any driver over the other.
and being in the Red Bull Development program is the worst. They are always impatient and getting rid of drivers unless you turn out like Vettel. Even if Kvyat and Ricciardo don't perform, Helmet Marko & Red Bull have someone else waiting to take his place.
and it's nepotism since both are second generation drivers and their well-respected fathers have political power in the paddock. so neither of the dads want their kid to be the team's "#2" driver.
Verstappen will learn you gotta keep a cool head and stay calm during a race. and drivers in general need to stop bitching about team orders. If your'e faster than your teammate then use DRS and pass them.
>>66359359
>>66359605
Funy,I thought you lads spoke portuguese
>>66360118
>i-it's fast
>and Hamilton is the best driver atm
>and the cars look fast
>and Kimi is cool
>and I can't sit through 6 hour races OR watch touring car or GT races
>watching grown men drive grown up go karts
>>66360181
>yeah, it was strange because usually the leading car of the two teammates gets called in the pits first
They didn't want Max to box because he would have come out of the pits to be stuck behind Palmer. They were waiting for a good window
>>66360217
>losing a war to Emus
>>66360217
>not watching men cum in karts
>>66359710
spy
>>66359992
F1 is not halal, and BBC has to conform to Sharia.
>>66360118
Depends on whether you're thinking like royalty or like a serf.
As a serf, other than the outright expense (and perhaps an argument about which kart-driving monkey has the best hand-eye coordination), you're correct.
But the point of the "pinnacle of motorsport" puffery is there are people who love worshiping their supposed social superiors - the kind of folks who love being a subject of royalty (whether economic or inbred).
You have to remember that Formula 1 isn't primarily about auto racing, it's an racing-based soap opera about the follies and foibles of the ultra-rich (i.e., not the plebs).
Just listen to Sky's Ted cum and start farting in the pit lane during the red flag in Australia as his "gladiators" are walking so close to him! Almost as if they were normal people! Those "gladiators"!
So the "pinnacle of motorsport" is what people who either like to royalty worship, or else elevate themselves to racing-fan royalty relative to fans of other forms of racing, tell themselves.
Racing is racing.
(Caveat: In the pits, whether dirt track, drag strip, NASCAR, F1, wherever, the guys who turn the wrenches are pretty much the same: racers. Which is why I prefer to be in the pits rather than the stands.)
If F1 cars produce enough downforce to drive upside down, what's to stop them from putting vertical loops in circuits sometime in the distant future?
Seems like a good idea to me.
>>66359359
Yeah, pretty much he put too much power down too quickly and lost the rear, Nico couldn’t control the wheelspin. And electronic “driver aids” like Traction Control, ABS, active suspension, and then FRIC, have been banned for awhile.
But there are ways around it, the teams can disguise it with their engine software and mapping different engine modes. There’s “torque control” and you can change the power delivery. Everything now is similar to avionics fly-by-wire systems. The pedals used to be mechanically linked to the engine and brakes so you had to be careful how you pressed them not to lock the brakes or spin the wheels. But now the pedals are attached to an electronic sensor that measures your input on the pedal and translates it to an electronic signal that is sent to the engine/or brakes. So there’s gotta be more ways to alter that, so you can set the sensitivity really low or really high.
>>66357039
I was hype for the Mugello 12H just to see this faggot and Prokop race together, and the two Glickenhaus SCG cars that were in action. And it was cool seeing those Renault R.S.01 race outside it's one-make series Sport Trophy.
Both Glickenhaus cars retired with turbo failure. and that faggot crashed on the first lap and ruined the race. They should've let Prokop start the race. He can't finish a WRC rally, I think Monte Carlo this year was his last chance. Maybe he should try DTM next. Eventually nowhere is going to take him if he can't stop crashing. maybe FE.
>@FonsoCelisJr will make his FP1 debut at the Bahrain GP, taking over fellow Mexican Checo Perez's car
>>66360356
But that's aero downforce, which varies with speed, and at the top of the loop the speed is low enough that the top speed "drive on the ceiling" aero numbers aren't available. That means g-loading downforce from radial acceleration has to make up the difference, and the compression g-loads for doing a vertical loop of any practical size are barely survivable.
They *can* be survived, but the window for success is very narrow: too slow into the loop and the car falls off the top, but too fast into the loop and the driver blacks out from g-load at the bottom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6PQ49B5Gpw
>>66360475
> driver blacks out from g-load at the bottom.
No m8, not enough time to do it.
>>66360407
>Both Glickenhaus cars retired with turbo failure.
I thought it were gearbox failures
It seems with these new power units the best way to gain performance is through engine software/mapping and the different engine modes. It’s like electronic warfare, with the right software you can gain performance immediately without having to manufacture and build a new part. The current rules around designing an F1 car are so restrictive that it’s the one area in the rulebook where you have some freedom.
I guess the engine software/mapping is probably the next step in evolution. The V10s and V8s through the mid 2000s were high tech and had engine software. Then with the 2.4L V8s and no refueling using engine mapping to run different fuel flow mixes became more important. Then Vettel with Newey at Red Bull Renault together came up with the exhaust-blown rear diffuser where the exhaust gases would blow over the rear of the car helping to increase rear grip and keep the car pinned to the ground. And it was mostly Renault that then came up with an improvement after with the off-throttle rear blown diffuser, where even when the driver was lifting off the pedal the engine would still know to send exhaust gas out the engine and to the back of the car; to help keep the rear downforce and grip. And this was controlled through engine mapping & software. Effectively making the car more user-friendly or easier to drive because of the increased downforce.
So Renault should get equal credit for Red Bull’s success, it’s a shame they broke up so quickly. When Red Bull were winning Renault never got any of the credit, it was all thanks to Newey’s genius chassis, and then when Red Bull were losing Renault got all of the blame. No wonder they gave some corporate excuse for leaving Red Bull because it was not an “economical marketing strategy”. You might as well go and make your own team.
>>66360118
It's the pinnacle because they (FIA) can keep other motorsports from becoming faster/better. If any other series becomes too fast they just makes some new rules for that series to make it less spectacular/cool/fast so they don't threaten F1.
>tfw new fuel restrictions for WEC this year
>>66360306
>>66360118
it used to be. not in this current form.
F1 was always about the fast cars and high technology for the time period. F1 could always boast that it had the highest cornering speeds. It's rocket-science but on the ground, upside down airplanes. There was a time in the 70s when the Porsche Le Mans prototypes and Group C cars were more powerful HP than F1 cars, and at one time they had a higher top speed (mostly because of the Le Mans track has a long straight to hit top speeds).
A lot of the F1 lap records (same track configuration) are still held by the 2004-era cars. That's considered the "peak" era of regulations when the F1 cars were at their fastest. V10s, lots of aero, and sticky Bridgestone tires. and iirc you could change gearboxes and engines whenever you wanted, so they didn't have to last more than one race.
>>66359031
You are talking about Max Verstappen.
His dad told him to hold on to the wheel because he is a fucking arrogant retard.
>>66360552
>that fucking rear wing
>>66360552
yeah pretty much this >>66360542.
In terms of stats like just pure straight line speed it's not like a Top Fuel dragster. and they don't do banking at 180mph like in turn left. It's the combination of the high cornering speeds and the locations. Certain tracks, like MotoGP don't go to Spa because a bike with a rider couldn't really handle the compression going up Eau Rouge. Nothing can take the S's at Suzuka or Maggots&Beckets (which the COTA S's are based on) like an F1 car.
>>66360486
Foust and Tracy's speed through that loop was barely over 50mph, and yet at the bottom of the loop they were pulling 7 G's.
So I think whether a driver would black out and for how long depends on how badly they get the speed wrong. ;) (Riders on roller coasters will sometimes suffer momentary blackouts-grayouts in high-speed loops.)
I definitely agree that drivers might die from other effects instead, such as the bursting of the arteries to the brain, or if they're fortunate merely suffer paralysis from spinal compression.
Though a few drops off the top from going too slow would certainly lead to a quicker implementation of a closed cockpit.
Tilke should get right on this.
fonzy needs his left ear taped down tbhfam
>>66359211
https://d2.maxfile.ro/evlsyujqvc.webm
absolutely amazing dude.
now let's try it again but with pit stops.
How does the FIA expect to introduce the cockpit halos next year if the sanctioning body doesn’t even know the rules yet for 2017. We have no idea what the new cars are going to be like.
>>66360693
both probably delayed until 2018, kek.
reminder that todt is an ineffective cuck.
ricciardo knows he will never win a race again.
>>66360722
How does Valtteri's neck support his head?
>>66360722
he will win monaco this year
>>66360763
strong neck. not as strong as esteban's though.
>>66360475
that pic
>real life trackmania
>>66360777
FUCK YOU CUNT. REEEEEEEEE. i want rosberg to win his fourth monaco gp in arow to cuck sennailton.
>>66360777
Nice trips.
RB is dogshit. He won't win anything, except maybe the inevitable pitlane biff he'll have with Daniil.
What's on this weekend?
>>66360777
noice
he lives like 5 minutes from the paddock so who knows
>>66360804
RBs pace surprised everyone in Aus and they still have the best aero.
That car will fly around Monaco
Those damn jihadists better not get near the circuits. Just keep them away from Zolder and Spa. Those uncultured plebs can't comprehend motorsport.
>>66360829
they'll be nowhere near pole. overtaking at monaco is reserved for hülk and sutil. so no chance of a red bull win. it will go to rosberg or vettel.
>>66360777
>>66360722
Once that deal with Aston Martin kicks in and RB get a new power unit then they'll be ready to dominate.
MAX IS AWESOME! <3 <3 <3
>>66360839
That is possibly the best bit of footage I've ever seen.
>>66360858
aston martin have no money. and don't mercedes have a stake in them?
>>66360858
I still want to put my external male organ of urination and copulation into the pipe of a Vulcan through which exhaust gases from the engine are discharged.
>reading an article on mallya
>see this
>The tendency of Indian public lending institutions to lend vast sums on comfortable terms to people who are already extremely wealthy, rather than to small businessmen and entrepreneurs, is well established. "The banks' mantra is to recapitalise those who already have massive net worth, often without real collateral," said Bansal the consultant. This cosy relationship is a key reason for the extraordinary wealth of many of India's super-rich, recent studies have concluded. It is at the heart of the nation's distinctive economic system, dubbed "curry capitalism" by some commentators
>curry capitalism
TOP FUCKING KEK.
>>66360860
for you.
what did he mean by this?
>>66360924
fly home, wait, get headache, do nothing, roid up, wait, spank the monkey, viewing porn, fappin, pre-ejaculation headache, wait, sleep, roid, porn, be bored, put finger in ass, roid up, take finger in ass, do nothing, sleep, view porn, headache from porn, roid up, wait, do nothing, fap
>>66360917
Thank you, you are very kind you know (for an American (just joking I'm not racist like that)).
>>66360530
and that's why Michelin didn't want to make a comeback with a new F1 tyre because they refused to design a tyre that degrades on purpose. Which is what F1 wants. and now they are the top brand in sportscar racing and dominate Le Mans. and they don't need F1. and Pirelli are feeling the marketing backlash because F1 advertises that your tyres are shit. But the restrictions placed on Pirelli by F1 means they can't really develop the best possible tyres that they are capable of making.
>>66360924
after 911 a lot of time passed.
mudslimes still can't ride bikes nor run.
he took pills and after a few minutes he felt like a monkey, it was probably molly.then he met 4 mudslimes. time passed he woke up and took a few more pills but after waiting for some time they still didn't work. after taking a few more pills that were probably adderall he felt good but couldn't ride bikes nor run and felt sleepy. after waking up he met 3 mudslimes who brought him more pills and he found himself in a k-hole. after some time he woke up again not being able to bike or run but he managed to flex his biceps
>>66360924
"Flying, flying to Bahrain. Time passes, yet my injuries remain. I can't bike, and in order to even walk properly I need medication. Not long left before the next weekend. Everyone's talking about me, keeping an eye on me, so I must remain strong, but it is not easy given what I've been through. I've been wasting away the past few days, sleeping after doing nothing for hours, then waking up in the middle of the night requiring medication for my pain. I take two pills, but they are not enough. I take two more and those seem to have an effect, but I still can't bike and still can't walk. I can only sleep through the sadness. But even then, I ultimately wake up again and realize the state that I'm in. Yet all I can do is take more pills. Time continues to fly. I still can't bike and I still can't walk, but I mush push on."
Almost reads like a combination of diary entries. Either him limping after that crash, as well as other recent events (like Bianchi's death), have hurt his physical and mental state a lot but feels he has to power on in spite of that, or he's just shitposting.
Probably just shitposting like the weeb he is.
>>66360530
Gee I sure wonder why Renault never got much of the credit for their wins.
Oh wait.
Renault almost managed to singlehandedly throw away Vettel's championship on two occasions. In all 4 of their championship-winning years, they had a weaker engine, yet in 2011 and 2013 they were carried by Newey's aero dominance and in 2010 and 2012 they could've won so much more easily without Renault's exploding engines or alternators.
what is diversity
>>66359656
yeah I get what you're saying.
F1 wouldn't need gimmicks like DRS and crappy tyres, new formats etc, if they had genuinely close racing. Focus on fixing the core regulations on how you design an F1 car; so we can get closer racing. Now you see overtaking only because there's such a huge difference in the performance of the cars/power units. It's like you only get passed because my car is so much shittier than yours. Vettel or Hamilton can have a bad start and easily make their way up through the field to the podium.
These new power units were supposed to attract more manufactures to the sport and instead it's still the same big three plus a struggling Honda. And the gaps between the teams are even further apart. The competition was closer during the previous 2.4L V8s.
>>66361156
>>66360542
get hype for Le Mans.
WEC starts soon at Silverstone too I think.
>>66361156
LMAO, seriously? Just black-whit-red my shit up!
And people complained about dull F1 liveries...
>>66361160
Anyone got the webm of Schumi doing the same chicane in 2012? That was insane.
>>66361156
Man, compared to the sleekness of even the post-2010 F1 cars, the bodywork of these 3 is just not good-looking. Don't think even a good livery would make improve any of those 3 all that much.
>>66361203
The Audi is pretty cool. <3
>>66361203
I like all of them.
>that dorsal fin
>that audi's open wheel nose embedded in the bodywork
>that porche's front wing
Hamilton complains that rule makers don't listen to the drivers
Charlie points out that Lewis doesn't show up to the regulation meetings.
Lewis' Hurr Durr:
>Most likely if I do go Sebastian is the only one who is going to be doing the talking so there is no point in me being there, I can just read about it later.
Say what you want about this F1 era.
But it is great for the memes.
>>66361691
it was all planned. the crash. that newspaper. everything.
>>66361737
GED ' IM OUDDA HERE!
>>66361366
srsly? it's hideous! the only good thing you can say about it is that it looks slightly better than the concept that was presented last November.
the 919 and toyota look OK
>>66360282
>F1 is not halal
it will be once the entire race calendar consists of races in UAE/Qatar/Bahrain
>>66361833
don't forget the return of the german grand prix.
:^)
>>66361783
I think it's pretty still. <3
>>66361160
I don't necessarily think it should be so that if you have a faster car, you'll be able to pass a slower car. We've seen this so many times in the current regulations - Kimi fucks up and is last, ends the race where he would have finished anyway. We've seen similar rises with Hamilton and Rosberg as well. Melbourne in particular was interesting because you could defend and overtaking was hard. Cars out of position and actually being able to defend is good for racing. If Melbourne had a 1 km DRS straight, Hamilton would have been back to 3rd or 2nd after 2 laps.
Plus thanks to Hamilton and Kubica now you can't even really protect your line anymore so "defending" in a DRS zone is basically positioning your car once and hoping that the car behind with 20 km/h temporarily higher top speed doesn't breeze past you
I don't know why FIA thought that their most technically advanced and expensive PU regulations would interest new manufacturers, especially when these regulations are going to be in F1 for like 3 years anyway. You could argue "road car relevancy" but isn't that what WEC is focusing on anyway and F1 really isn't supposed to be an ad campaign for a manufacturer anyway (even though it is). Next they'll probably introduce Pirelli road tires because Pirelli requests more relevancy to their road car business.
>>66361968
>rises with hamilton
i love you binland.
>>66361783
it would seem like a huge fin like that would create a lot of wind resistance and lateral G's through the turns which would wear tires and slow the car down
>>66361833
new dream calendar
Start of season:
>Abu Dhabi GP
>Turkey GP
>Bahrain GP
>Dubai GP
>Mecca GP (only for Muslims, if you don't like this rule, please convert)
Asian rounds
>Indonesian GP
>Malaysian GP
>Bangladesh GP
European extravaganza
>French GP
>German GP
>London GP
>Belgian GP - Molenbeek Street circuit GP
FINALE
>Swedish GP - Malmö Street Circuit
Bernie pls make it happen
Already talks of Baghdad and Damascus GPs once situation calms down a bit
>>66361495
Post source
I can't belive something that hilarious
Is he jealous of Seb ?
>>66362099
Sky Sports: Hamilton blasts F1 rule makers
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10214027/lewis-hamilton-people-making-f1s-rules-dont-know-how-cars-work
>>66361783
I'm with you, I think it's the ugliest out of the three. The only thing that surprises me is that the Toyota looks exactly the same even though they were supposed to have money for developing it this year.
>>66362129
>But FIA's Charlie Whiting says Hamilton fails to attend regulation meetings
This is just spetacular. Hilariously Spectacular
>However, Hamilton says attending the meetings would be pointless as Sebastian Vettel is invariably the only driver to make a contribution.
ayyy
>"I don't know if the drivers need to be more involved in certain things," Hamilton told reporters.
Funnily stupid,because :
>Hamilton then went on to criticise F1's hierarchy for not consulting drivers on rule changes, such as switching to a one-clutch start in Australia.
Why is Lulu so stupid ?
>>66360181
whats taking that last guy so long? looks like hes reaching down for something
>>66362172
They developed a new paint job, haven't they? kek
But it's true, not much has changed at Toyota aero-wise it seems.
>>66362225
so dumb.
>Quite another question: gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race – I don’t remember what race - he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula One driving today too complicated with twenty and more buttons on the wheel, are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical programme during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?
>>66362593
what are their answers reeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>66362614
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>SV: Can you repeat the question?! Yeah, I remember the question. I think it depends all on how the monkey grows up these days. I think it’s a different generation of monkeys that Niki was talking about probably compared to monkeys we have today. Obviously there’s a lot of buttons on the steering wheel, probably too many but I think for us, we grow up like that, it’s a different generation. I think if you put a modern phone in Niki’s hands, I’m not sure he would know what to do – sorry Niki. I think it’s what you get used to. For sure, when I started, for example, in Formula One, there were a lot of procedures I had to learn, a lot of buttons I needed to know how to control etc. But it’s part of cars nowadays. If you jump into a normal road car, there’s also plenty of buttons but in the end the most important bit is the steering wheel, turning the car left and right and the accelerator at the bottom. I think the basics haven’t changed and that’s the important thing, that the sport remains as it has been many many years ago despite how many buttons you have on the steering wheel
>NR: I’ll make this a bit shorter. I think we need to just make sure that the sport stays simple for the fans, that’s the most important thing. The direction, it’s all great, technology fantastic, hybrid power, buttons, everything, that’s all great but we need to make sure that for the fans it stays simple enough. That’s something for the medium term future, that we need to keep an eye on. That’s it
>>66362593
can you repeat the question?
>>66362764
REEEEEEEEE, GET OUT!
>>66362759
it's interesting how i like what nico says on paper but listening to him say it annoys the living shit out of me. i really can't stand the guy personally
>>66362785
i like him, even if he sounds shill-y at times.
#H445
>>66362785
To me, it's harder to determine whether or not someone is genuine through mere words alone. Demeanor, inflections etc all add so much more to the way a person expresses their thoughts.
Nico strikes me as being extremely fake. It's easy to see that in person, but nowhere near as much through text alone unless you're already biased against him and know what he's really like.
I am I Kawai now, Desu Senpai ~ ?
I missed the aussie gp where can i find a replay ?
goddamn lads please tell me this won't be another HAMROSVET year
>>66363028
vet ros ham tbhfam
>>66363003
gpreplay
>>66362759
>Can you repeat the question?
top kek
consistently the funniest driver out there. why did seb develop a great sense of humor when he moved to ferrari?
>>66363089
He always was silly. Just ask James Allen about how much people loved him while he was at Toro Rosso.
Red Bull's PR scheme was awful for him, and Mateschitz coddled Wobbler so much that Vettel couldn't do anything about the fact that they didn't get along at all.
>>66363028
probably MWL, but Ferrari does look very close in race pace tho they are still btfo in qualy
>>66363089
>why did seb develop a great sense of humor when he moved to ferrari?
He has always been funny
>>66363085
Thx bro i hope your not shitting me
>>66363089
He was always funny, it's just that it wasn't portrayed as much as he was le evil brat at Red Bulll and Webber was le GOAT reasonable man (even though he acted more like a child than Vettel). He also toned it down himself in public because he knew it wouldn't fly that well when half the grid and fans hate you for winning.
He was also acutely aware of how much people hated his domination, especially during 2013 which is when he decided to just go yolo with the Pole-to-win streak and disregard everything else.
>>66362785
>>66362820
It's what happens when you get raised in a richkid paradise never wanting for anything. Nico is actually a very smart guy and whatnot but its just the way that he speaks and emotes is so fake or whiny. Mostly because he's spent his childhood and teenage years around exclusively fake or whiny people with a lot of money and probably has no idea why fans can't really relate to him.
Hamilton's tantrums according to the media however are just part of his "winning" character, reasonable frustrations - he hates to come second and it shows - that's why he's a THREE TIME FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPION©, Martin! He's just hungry ;) because he grew up middle class in a first world country ;))
>>66363089
>why did seb develop a great sense of humor when he moved to ferrari?
After Seb's epic 2008 Torro Rosso win
Reporter:
>"this must be the best day of your life."
Vettel:
>"You obviously weren’t there when I lost my virginity."
>elimination quali is back
>>66363330
Kek. His uncomfortable flirting with Natalie and Lee was GOAT.
>>66363343
With the right changes it could be good. I think it's worth a second try because the format could be great fun.
>>66363317
The way Nico sounds and the things he says remind me a lot of Trudeau, for any Canadafags in here. They're both eloquent speakers and have a lot of good/smart things to say, but they both have such an air of arrogance/self-importance about them. Trudeau is way worse than Nico tho, I actually like Nico.
>>66363028
It's going to be a ROSHAMVET YEAR
>>66363382
if I cock my foot in the right angle getting kicked in the balls could be erotic
>>66363382
Allowing only medium tires during Q3 would've fixed it
I WILL be voting for Trump.
>>66363343
Here I was thinking it was so bad that it brought forward a power shift in F1 management. Now they are doubling down in the dumbest way possible.
kek, sky sports f1 channel has shit viewing figures. idiots.
>Sounds like @SkySports paid close to a billion for six seasons. No chance of FTA terrestrial responding to that
>>66363462
His daughter is pretty bangin
>>66362759
hey, I never saw/heard/read the answers. thx!
still, everytime I start reading that question I can only read it in that voice. kek
>>66363495
> brown eyes
meh.
>>66362593
anyone remember the question that guy asked last season? i do remember some of the drivers struggling to keep from laughing when he started talking (kinda mean t/b/h but i understand)
Please say they didn't pay this much only for the UK rights? Has to be for all the European markets that Sky operates in right?
If they're throwing that much at Bernie then forget about official streaming ever making an appearance. TV companies have it locked up.
>>66362593
>i'm sorry who's that question to ?
>>66362759
>Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?
Possibly the most legendary banter I've ever heard.
prepare for
>rosbergwinslol
and
>i can't get past this guy
>@pirellisport formally confirms that the ultrasoft will make its race debut in Monaco with the supersoft and soft
>>66363495
She has butiful jewish bubbies too
paid a visit to fernando's wall tonight
>>66363835
nice
>>66363835
top kek. tweet him it.
>>66363859
should I ask if he wants some of his carbon fibre back lol
>>66363835
>>66363881
cool shit
did you sneak in or was it open to the public?
>>66363899
roads opened earlier today, you can drive through the whole circuit (really slowly though lel, speed limits are 40 and 50 km/h)
>>66363881
where did you find that? i went through the gravel after the race and didn't find anything
>>66363881
Where did you take that picture, if you did? Do you just have an all-white photo-room to take pictures of objects in?
>>66363911
right next to the concrete barrier he hit, along where the marks are
there's still a few tiny bits there now lel, if you feel like making the journey
>>66363920
chucked the bits on a piece of paper sitting on my desk lel
>>66363911
>>66363924
meet,have sex and post it on /f1/
I'd love to have a piece of an F1 car, stop making me jealous. And they just leave it on public roads... F1 on Norisring when?
>>66363934
Damn they must be pretty small. It's a well taken photo.
>>66363952
they're rather small, similar in size to a few bits I found at turn 2 in 2010
I think the red bit is a piece of fernando's ferrari, after he had that spin at the start of the race
Hey, I'm kinda new in /f1/. Been roaming /b/ and /tv/ for years, and watching F1 since 2003. During Australian GP decided to check if there is a board for /f1/ and wasn't disappointed.
So thing is.
>I want the memes of this board
Give me all the best memes of F1 that every newfag must know.
Already known memes:
>And Finland loses again
>HAMROSVET
>Tractor Cunt
>Rosberg
P.S. How did Kimi become into Gimi?
>>66364003
I might be wrong, but I think it's kimi being pronounced in a spurdo way
like GIMI :DDDDDD
>>66364003
post gfs of drivers
>>66364003
Just lurk for a few more races.
>Rumors: Raikkonen to Stewart-Haas NASCAR team in 2017?
>>66364067
Nando is the only one worth posting his gfs, since he's the only one dating russian models
>>66364144
Damn, he was just 2 weeks too early too.
>>66364003
whats your opinion on amx in the last race
>>66364003
VWL/MWL
https://twitter.com/ianparkesf1/status/712996077255987200
Didn't this shit get scrapped? Fuck off
>>66364281
lel
i miss chilton tbqh he was always a cheery guy and remarkably consistent
>>66364191
>Dutch asks about Verstappen
>how do I not fuck this up
Yes, the team fucked up by not doing ANYTHING, but he acted like a crybaby. If he had wanted Sainz to overtake Palmer - he should've backed away by a second or so, to give Sainz some god damn peace and quiet. It's kinda hard to overtake someone when there's a ticking teenage time-bomb behind you.
>>66364327
at least that miserable fuck stevens is gone.
>>66364360
i'm not in his fanclub m8 you can as honest as you'd like
>>66364389
coulthard interviewing him must've been the most awkward thing ever
>>66364421
never saw it, what happened?
he's such an arrogant cunt. boasted about having no plan b or c as he was sure he had a seat at manor this year, kek.
>>66364459
i just meant that the cameraman would have to be standing so far back to get them both in the shot, i don't know if he ever did though
>>66364459
I think he's making a joke about their heights.
>>66364003
for future use
>>66364476
>>66364484
top kek.
>>66363609
I can't see it lasting if it even happens at all once we hit 2019. Teams blocked this deal from happening earlier and there is a lot of pressure for F1 to change especially at the top. This is a deal no one wants but the top.
>>66364003
the whole McHonda comeback was one big meme itself
>>66364003
The amount of people that just went >Hey, I'm kinda new in /f1/. Been roaming /b/ and /tv/ for years, and watching F1 since 2003. During Australian GP decided to check if there is a board for /f1/ and wasn't disappointed.
So thing is.
>I want the memes of this board
Give me all the best memes of F1 that every newfag must know.
Already known memes:
>And Finland loses again
>HAMROSVET
>Tractor Cunt
>Rosberg
P.S. How did Kimi become into Gimi? proves the predictable, smart ass nature of this board.
All of you try and impress each other with these funny green text comments, from someone who doesn't spend all their life online, it looks ridiculous.
Fuck this I'm off, don't wanna waste my life on "addictive and funny" 4chan.
>>66364562
First greentext to stres what I want.
Second greentext to bullet-point what I know.
Get off your high horse
>>66364635
you wanted memes lad, you just replied to one.
it's pasta for race threads
>>66364679
Fuck. Tho it doesn't seem F1 related at all, so I won't take blame for fucking up
>>66364679
That's a really shitty modification of it mate
Someone pls post the original "The amount of people that just went...." and whatever variations you may have of the "I saw _____ at the grocery store yesterday" meme
ERS? ERS??
>>66364711
It's because in every race thread anytime any driver fucks up at all there are like >50 posts saying
>vetlel
or
>gimi
The copypasta is an ironic meme in response to all those posts
>>66361968
Their proposed solution to make shit more exciting is more down force which is retarded. When we had more down force we had less overtaking. It just means clean air becomes more important so being behind people slows you down more relative to the very car you are trying to overtake. So much of the stuff done to help overtaking recently has been very artificial as it has been DRS which is done to help the problem with dirty air and try to eliminate the disadvantage of being behind or the advantage of being in front. I would say the tyres create more artificial overtaking as it is done just to create speed differences between cars as the tyres degrade or someone comes along with fresher tyres there is nothing a driver can really do about it, also being behind someone degrades your tyres more which makes being behind even worse. At least with DRS you could in theory with all else being equal retake your position as you get the DRS next lap.
I agree with people calling for more mechanical grip and maybe even lower aero. If drivers can push to the max the whole race and the cars deliver that power consistently for the whole race then you can have front runners trading places as they use each others slipstream to come back at each other. That only works if the slipstream creates an advantage for the car behind relative to the car infront. The whole track becomes a DRS zone without the DRS.
>>66363495
so bangin', even her father wants to bang 'er.
>>66364872
The only problem with this is that for ~40 years now, aero is the main thing that sets F1 apart from other series. How fast the cars are around corners and consequently a lap is what makes them special. It's a big part of the spectacle, seeing drivers fly through the Suzuka snake or Pouhon. I'm all for make the racing a little closer but just getting rid of aero isn't the answer, lots of other series have better racing but they still aren't as good because it's simply more exciting to watch an F1 car than a GT car.
I hate most of the band-aid solutions FIA and F1 Group have come up with to help the situation (I think DRS is okay as long as it's not OP), but so many people (Brundle, HAM, Crofty) act like it's as simple as artificially handicapping the formula to make it just like every other series out there.
>tl;dr - getting rid of F1 aero doesn't fix everything
ERS?
>>66364718
I saw Fernando Alonso at the paddock in Suzuka today. I told him how honored I was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a baka and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Where is my horsepower?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “ERS? ERS? ERS?" and slapping my head. I walked away and continued with my engine work, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to leave for the motor home I saw him trying to walk out of parc ferme with like 105 grid penalties in his hands without applying them.
Charlie Whiting was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Fernando, you need to apply those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear him, but eventually turned back around and brought them to Charlie.
When Charlie took one of the penalties and started applying it multiple times, he stopped him and told him to apply them each individually “to prevent any mgu-h infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After Charlie scanned each penalty and started to say the grid position, Alonso kept interrupting him by yawning really loudly.
>>66365103
>infetterence
I'm so happy the FlyLo pasta took off like it did.
NO CHANGES TO QUALIFYING. WHAT THE FUCK, REEEEEE.
>The elimination qualifying system is set to remain in place for the Bahrain GP after all following a bizarre twist of events in the last few days
>After the teams agreed to dump it completely and return to the 2015 format – seemingly with the support of Bernie Ecclestone – it appears that Jean Todt led a move to introduce a hybrid system, with elimination in Q1 and Q2, and Q3 as per 2015 with all cars running together
>This had been mooted several weeks ago after race engineers and team managers suggested that there would not be much activity in Q3
>It was this proposal which went to the F1 Commission for a fax vote today, rather than any proposal to abandon it. Unanimity is needed for any changes to this change and since no agreement could be found under the rules there is no choice but to go back to the elimination format, exactly as used in Australia
>It would appear that it is being given one more chance ahead of further possible changes for China
say what you want about him, but at least mosley got things done for better or worse. todt needs to go. ineffective cuck.
>>66365192
top cuck
>>66365256
>cucko wolff (20/3): I'm sure there is a way to optimize it [elimination], but I think it needs time and structure and process and analysis
>>66360649
didn't that pit crew guy use to work for force india?
>>66360649
i love america
channel 4:
>We don’t have any access to extra feeds for live content, Sky have that exclusively as part of their deal. Although we don’t have a red button service for to do a ‘fan forum’ type programme, we are looking at ways we can expand our service
>>66365039
Not saying get rid of aero but the aero dominated era was the most processional. Just at least address the imbalance between aero and mechanical grip.
You do need to "handicap" the formula, always have if not we would have ABS, Traction control, etc still. Might as well have robots going round the track.
>>66360118
>>66360306
how is f1 not the pinnacle of motorsport? you must be meming. when asked what they are working towards, every young driver in lower categories says f1. F1 has better drivers than other series, f1 has better & more renowned engineers than other series, f1 has more fans than other series, f1 has faster cars than other series, f1 is more expensive than other series, and plenty of other things.
other series might be purer racing, but that doesn't change the fact that f1 has (and has had, for a very long time) the highest level of competition of any car racing series
i even prefer watching wec, but i'm not neckbeardy enough to unironically argue that f1 isn't the pinnacle of motorsport
>>66365504
If Bernie had his way Sky would already have exclusivity for this year.
>>66365606
young drivers certainly aren't interesting in F1 for the cars or competition. they're in it for the money. isn't hamilton making like $80mil a year?
>>66363609
Sky probably panicked once they'd lost champions league football. They needed something big to keep their customers.
>>66364498
It sounds like they've signed a contract so how can they stop it?
>>66365103
best pasta
>>66365606
>F1 has better drivers than other series
Understatement of the millenium. It's almost hilarious when you look at how legitimately poor the quality of drivers in WEC is, not to mention how insanely easy to drive the cars are.
A lot of the other arguments are solely because F1 has been built up to be like that, and there's still nothing stopping the FIA from suddenly promoting something else as the pinnacle of motorsport, but things like that won't change for a very long time to come.
>>66365635
lol
>>66364003
>activate it (pic you posted)
>autism box
>foreskindia
>currytits
>>66365604
The difference though is that driver aids lessens the perceived skill level that a driver must have. A lot of people think they make driving an F1 car a lot easier - arguably they do, but I'm not getting into that. Not many people think that driving a car that is aero dependant is easier than one that is not, even if it actually is.
What I'm saying is that we shouldn't make the cars drastically slower just in order to spice up the racing.
>elimination qualifying is back
>we get another 4 minutes of dead air at the end of Q3 because "well, it didn't work at all last time but let's give it another chance to see if things work better because I have a gigantic ego and think my way of doing this is better than LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE's thoughts"
Fuck the FIA, fuck the WMSC, fuck the F1 Commission, fuck Bernie, Fuck Jean Todt and his scrooges, and fuck FORMULA ONE
>>66365665
>It's almost hilarious when you look at how legitimately poor the quality of drivers in WEC is
what do you mean by this? Are you implying that people rate the amateur classes as being on the same level of F1 drivers?
At least we get to see the clusterfuck that was Q1 again.
>>66366023
I even said it at the time, Q1 was the best shit ever, and now that people know what they're doing it'll be even better
>>66366023
>>66366044
Q1 was pretty good entertainment but the 90sec timer needs to be changed. At least give them a chance to finish their flying lap.
>>66365604
>You do need to "handicap" the formula, always have if not we would have ABS, Traction control, etc still. Might as well have robots going round the track.
I think it's sad that people actually do look at it as 'handicapping" when you suggest they shitcan all the computer assisted bullshit F1 drivers use.
If it was me, I'd do the following:
-impose aero restrictions that limit the amount of down force and therefore increase the reliance on normal tire traction, and driver control
-shitcan the gojillion dollar magic steering wheel, including all the electronic assist bullshit associated with it, in order to help keep costs down and emphasize driver control
-mandate standard stick shifts and not those faggy steering wheel paddle shifters
Racing is about man vs. machine, and F1, with all its computer assisted bullshit, is getting to the point where the driver is becoming redundant, and they might as well just remote pilot the damn things.
>>66365794
>Not many people think that driving a car that is aero dependant is easier than one that is not, even if it actually is.
If people perceive something and it is wrong then going down the line of trying to fix F1 on that faulty basis isn't going to fix F1.
It isn't about making cars slower, you can trade aero for mechanical grip with an end result in the same level of grip.
>>66366155
driver control matters just as much with high aero, aero cars are more difficult to drive perfectly than mechanical grip cars
the steering wheel is like <1% the cost of the car and the only assist associated with it is adjustable feedback levels
the gearshift thing i dunno, its just a distraction from the actual skill of driving, but i could see how its a valid argument, its something a lot of former f1 drivers complain about now
>>66366200
no theres a maximum amount of load you can get without aerodynamics which is related to the mass of the car, but increasing the mass of the car will make it slower because of intertia. theres no way to get the same levels of grip f1 cars have without huge amounts of downforce
>>66366200
I'm saying aero is a major issue with fans the same way that driver aids were. Personally I don't think it's "easier" to driver a car dependent on aero as opposed to traditional grip, it just requires a different style.
There's no possible way to achieve anything close to F1 corner speeds without aero. Alternate sources of downforce like ground effects is a better route to go down than mechanical group.
>>66366333
Dammit meant to say aero is NOT a major issue with fans the same way driver aids were. F1 was scared that people thought drivers no longer required the same amount of skill they used to and would therefore stop watching. This is not the case with aero.
>>66366363
>>66366333
i like ur digits quite a bit my man
Remember when everyone thought HAAS would be yellow? Good times
>>66366333
And yet I have never argued to get rid of aero. In fact I initially made the point to increase mechanical grip and not necessarily lower aero just that it could be.
The point was more to address the imbalanced so dirty air doesn't fuck grip up as much as it does because of the reliance of aero for grip.
Even one of the fastest periods had grooved and smaller tyres to reduce mechanical grip to slow the cars down so speeds could have been faster.
I also didn't really argue for the cares to be harder to drive in and of itself in what I was arguing about grip. All grip being equal or even more wouldn't really impact that. Some actually argue to have really shit tyres but consistently shit to make the cars slip more making the cars more difficult to drive. Sort of like wet racing all the time. However from what I was arguing if drivers can better compete with one another even if the cars are not strictly harder to drive on their own that makes racing more challenging in relation to drivers skills compteing. Less processional overtaking because of the differential of tyre wear, DRS or no overtaking because of dirty air and tyre wear. You could have the cars really hard to drive and still have all those issues continuing to lead to processional racing.
>>66366644
I'm sad that it's not.
>>66366633
Nice digits yourself.
>>66366644
it's pretty funny that people let an italian rumor and a shitty journalist's retweet cloud their predictions, despite all indications from every other bit of Haas branding.
>>66366651
im not that canadian, but lower grip wouldn't make the cars slip, it would still be optimal to drive them right on the limit just before they slipped, what makes them slip in the rain is inconsistent/unpredictable levels grip, so drivers are tricked into overestimating how much grip they'll have
but yeah, the easier the cars are to drive the more emphasis there will be on the actual ability to drive fast, instead of the ability to stay in control
>>66366633
holy sheehtt
>>66366699
>>66366644
these digits, my god
>>66366651
I'm not trying to say you're suggesting that as your main point, I'm addressing your comments to my arguments.
The problem isn't aero grip vs mechanical grip, it's where the downforce for aero grip is coming from and how it is used. Which is why I'm saying the focus shouldn't be on getting more mechanical grip which doesn't help at high speeds where dirty air is a problem, it should be on finding a way to use the dirty air just as efficiently or making it so the air coming off cars isn't as dirty.
>>66366699
I meant easier to slip as in they couldn't just keep their foot down on certain corners that they can now. I didn't mean they would be sliding around all the time.
>>66356891
Looks like we dont have to.
If in the end it plays out exactly like it did in Australia I'll be hoping Todt gets murdered.
>>66366258
>driver control matters just as much with high aero
Right, but when you have funding disparities between teams, you can have significant differences in the effectiveness of a cars aero package, further reducing the emphasis on driver skill to the point of making it a marginal factor, at best.
The tech should should offer an advantage, but it shouldn't be powerful enough to make the driver almost redundant. If Ham / Ros / Vet couldn't win, or at least podium, in Manor cars, then the disparity is too great.
>>66359211
I've been shitposting for Haas since day one senpai
Gary Brabham has been found guilty of child rape. Which of the current drivers will be next?
>>66366812
I am not arguing it as aero vs mechanical. I want both. It is bad to focus on either one over the other. You need more of a balance.
In fact 2009 was meant to address that when there was a big change. Removing the grooves and lowering aero to increase mechanical grip and lower aero and balance it more but they quickly also made the tyres shit to make things more "interesting" leading aero to quickly dominate again.
>Yfw Johan Cruijff's last public appearance was with Mad Amx Verstappen
>Yfw a legend passes on his baton to the next generation
>Yfw symbolism
>>66366883
Button looks like a diddler
>>66366883
holy fucin shit
>>66366870
oh ok i see what you're saying, so the problem really is a cost cap then and not the actual aero regs
>>66366914
Yeah I don't like the way tires have gone either. I wish we had 2000-2004 tire compounds combined with no grooves. I would like to see the tire wars come back, for better or for worse.
>Sky will broadcast in 4k from 2017
>Implying I or anyone I know has a 4k TV
>>66366930
>so the problem really is a cost cap then and not the actual aero regs
I'd say the regs certainly contribute to the issue, as they should be designed to facilitate better racing, and they don't seem to be doing that, given the issue that exists with being able to pass.
>>66366883
Pastor
>>66363330
kek, based Seb bringing the bantz.
I already liked him back with BMW when he got a penalty literally in the first few seconds of an official session.
also related: brundle_vettel_i'm_happy.jpg
>>66367066
>>66367020
because sky broadcasts specifically with you and people you know in mind
>>66367042
yeah thats agreeable, i dont think its as bad as people make it out to be though, actual car racing isn't meant to be a mario kart style wheel-to-wheel extravaganza, its not really an inherently exciting sport
of course this is skewed cause of DRS (theres a huge jump before DRS tho) but its interesting anyway that people are complaining about overtakes even though we have more than ever
>>66365692
It's actually fucking hilarious that VDG actually showed up to Melbourne ready to go, starting seat fitting etc despite almost 100% knowing he wouldn't race. Pretty based way of going about it once you know you got fucked over. Maybe they thought he would just accept a payout but he goes by the literal definition of the contract and shows up like lets go guys! despite being a total outsider for the team for a while and all the setup and shit done for the other drivers
If I recall correctly he even got his seat fitted and stuff. Apparently it takes a solid 30 mins to get that done so he literally just sat there in the Sauber garage for half an hour fucking people's shit up even though he knew there would be almost no chance of him racing hahahaha. what a bro
Also FUCK SAUBER I wish those mountain poo niggers would fuck off from f1 already who gives a fuck theyre a shit team and will never amount to anything
>>66366921
That was literally just the other day and he looks perfectly healthy. Mental
>>66364003
small compilation of memes. some shitty some not.
>>66367134
I know! Everyone, including the man himself actually believed he was making progress. However it seems cancer was a total bitch once again. Although I wouldn't say he looked 'healthy' on pic related. His chubby cheeks are the results of a medicine called dexamethasone. It often creates the illusion of someone looking quite thick and healthy while it isn't the case at all.
[spoiler]Unfortunately I know way too much about this topic because it hits home very closely[/spoiler]
>>66367116
Yep he did get a seat fitting. He had to wear Marcus ericsson's fire suit and was seen wondering through the paddock in it.
The best part was he had to use a paddock pass provided to him by Sergio Perez because no one in Sauber would give him credentials.
>>66367282
Fug I should have known spoilers don't work on this board...
>>66366928
>hfw it gets found out
>hfw McHonda still shit
>hfw Jessica cucked him with John Mayer
>>66367076
Thank you Jaques,
t. Mick
>>66367134
amx confirmed for engery-sucking lizard-person.
i booked a hotel and tickets to the Baku Grand Prix
what kind of cuisine should I expect
are the people friendly
>>66367581
Azerbaijan is like half gypsy half arab or something isn't it? Probably going to be pretty gross food desu.
>>66367610
I don't know about Arab food exactly, but Israeli and Lebanese food is pretty good. Shouldn't be too bad.
>>66357923
Four words: "Wrong place, Wrong time" you cannot prevent accidents that are unpredictable can and point, Justin wilson in Indycar 2015, he was hit on the head by bouncing debris from a crash ahead of him. Formula one crashes are very similar but indycar/champcar/ CART have had more crashes by far in the last two decades Pic related, former f1 and CART driver alex zinardi lost his legs in a crash in 2001
>>66368097
i really want to see him race at the 500.
ripip in pepperoni f1
it was fun while it lasted
see you after backwards time travel is invented
>Ace new F1 qualy format involves a calendar, cuckoo clock, pocket watch, Big Ben, sun dial, egg timer, stopwatch, grandfather + alarm clocks
Since when has Brundle turned into an ace memer?
>>66369560
>Pole position decided consulting the Michelin guide whilst viewing a Pirelli calendar at Bridgestonehenge fully respecting moons and tides
The madman is still at it
Bahrain GP
>>66369749
Gimi podium
>>66369749
vettelwinslol
car stalls on grid
first corner mayhem
botched pit stop
max mad on radio
le yearly force india podium
>>66369749
Commentator complaining about quali.
>>66369749
>Vetlel returns
>Massa destroys the new nose in practice
>HAMROSVET
>Brundle mocks the qualifying system live
>>66369749
Hamilton can't get passed someone
>>66369749
Haryanto DNF
>>66369749
Gimi Unreliability
>>66369749
(You)
>>66369749
No cars out at the end of Q3
>>66369749
MAD mad amx
>>66369749
Will probably have died down by the actual race, but Mad Max playing up his Belgian heritage.
>>66370130
YOU FORGOT HAAS POINTS. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Haas scores 0 (zero) points
>>66369749
Wehrlein gains 3+ places in the first lap
so apparently Marco Bonanomi is driving with Verstappen's gf in 2016
>>66369749
England's brave Jolly Palmer beats Kmag again.
>>66369899
why does coulthard always have this judging look on his face
>>66362593
>Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit
>Confused_Hamilton.jpg
>>66370868
not a judging look - a haunted one. he feels pain at taking senna's seat in 1994.
>>66370967
he always looks like he thinks his co-presenters and everyone in general are morons
>>66371040
>Implying they aren't
>>66371040
that's called being scottish
>>66371040
It's the posh Scot way
>>66369719
>moons and tides
so mad yet so funny, I think he lurks on spee
>>66369749
Free space. You know what.
>>66371313
Name it.
>>66369719
but what about the direction carmen jorda's erect nipples are pointing in
>>66371323
AND FINLAND LOSES AGAIN.
>>66369719
Sky broadcasting something right now? I wish we had an actually professional broadcaster in Finland too, they don't even travel to the location anymore these days.
>>66369749
Haas disappointment
It's bound to happen after the 6th place hype
>>66370560
So apparently Marco Bonanomi will be driving Verstappen's gf by the end of 2016
>>66370560
hes much better looking but probably nearly as rich though
>Elimination Qualifying will remain at the Bahrain GP
Holy shit, Bernie is the ABSOLUTE MADMAN
https://twitter.com/ianparkesf1/status/712996077255987200?lang=en-gb
>>66371952
Bernie didn't want it. Todt overruled his decision.
>decide to watch some old season reviews from the 1970s
>hype to watch Ickx/Stewart/Rindt/Regazzoni/all the big names
>Courage and Rindt die in the 1970 season
>remember why I don't watch the old reviews
>>66372140
1974:
>helmuth koinigg (decapirated)
>peter revson (heir to revelon empire)
>>66371989
Fucking FIA
>>66372557
>ya vell ve vant vat iz besht for de shport but burnee doesn't lishen
>>66366044
Would it ever make sense for teams to fuel the car for 4 laps? Put in a banker lap, come into the pits for new tires as a pit-stop, then back out for the second lap? Much of the disaster was teams were too slow to get out for their second lap.
http://autoweek.com/article/nascar-sprint-cup/f1-star-kimi-raikkonen-nascar-2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxDycguIWXI
#JustGimiThings
>Gary Thomas Brabham, a former Formula Ford and Formula 3 driver in Britain and Europe, had been on trial in Brisbane's District Court after pleading not guilty to the rape charges involving a child aged six
jesus christ man.
>>66372554
>>helmuth koinigg (decapirated)
I didn't plan on sleeping at night anyway.
>>66372837
if you're a team with a chance of being in Q3 then saving a set of tires matters too much, but even then you're automatically eliminated if your first hotlap is last place
think about it, there are seven minutes before the first elimination, say its a minute thirty lap somewhere;
1:40 in to the session - out lap finished
3:10 - banker lap finished
4:50 - in lap finished
5:10 - pit stop finished
6:40 - 2nd out lap finished
that only leaves you 20 seconds to do your hotlap, so its not happening
assuming you can do out and in laps at full qualifying speed you'll still need laptime*5 + 20s for the pit stop to get 2 hotlaps in within 7 minutes;
7*60 < laptime*5 + 20
42 < laptime*.5 + 2
40 < laptime*.5
80 < laptime
so it would only be at all possible at a track with a less than 80 second lap, and even then its really unlikely you'd be able to do that, even without traffic.
if you're confident that even on higher fuel load you won't be last and also that you have no chance making it into Q3, then it could MAYBE be worth it
>>66373380
>yfw project brabham was just a way to contact children
https://youtu.be/AcJkVa7MsrQ
>>66373681
his head came clean off, rolled into a corner, helmet in tact.
also:
>>66373380
found guilty.
>The 54-year-old was found guilty on one count of rape and one count of indecent treatment of a girl under six, for offences that occurred between 2003 and '07
>He was found not guilty of five other charges of indecent treatment, following proceedings that started when the girl told her mother, who then reported it to police, in October 2013
>>66368097
Brings a whole new meaning to the exploding knees meme.
>>66374137
>2009
wat
>>66373943
So if you bung up your first lap, even at the expense of traffic, you are fucked?
>>66373979
At least he was wearing his helmuth.
parked my car in alonso's path last night
it's a cool feeling driving through with all the catch fencing and barriers still up
>>66374261
if you're one of the teams whos borderline then yeah, someone like manor, haas, sauber, renault, etc. In melbourne though for example i think vettel did two successive hotlaps didn't he? (i might be wrong) something like that though is worthwhile insurance for a top team, you only need one extra lap of fuel, which won't put you last anyway as a top team.
ps when are we changing the name of /f1/ to canada and romania general
>>66374196
Don't ask me, ask the internet I didn't name the file.
>Protip: I would have called it exploding_knees.gif
>>66374347
post the real one
>>66372932
oh fug :-DDD
>>66374347
holy shit
that isn't real, is it?
>>66374137
Where are his legs?
>>66374399
from rush i think.
>>66374463
further down the track. they came clean off.
>>66374399
I doubt it. All the images I see of the actual crash are in very bad black and white.
>>66374463
all over the track out of the picture
>>66374463
By the look of things no where to be found.
>>66374573
how did he survive?
>>66374573
>>66374573
His attitude about the whole thing was what was really amazing. He literally didn't seem to give a fuck.
>>66374573
HMMMM BOYS
>>66374598
With lots of German blood and great health care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KysP71KKzIc
>>66374617
he designed his own prosthetic legs. based af.
>>66374678
TV director/cameraman did a pretty good job of just zooming out once it happened.
>>66374678
that streched view makes it look like that weird japanese af
>>66374678
>no one even gets to him for 50 seconds
How did he not bleed out
>>66374767
ad*
>>66374776
Science
>>66374776
if he was conscience that probably felt like an hour to him
>>66374860
apparently he lost around 70 percent of his blood
I don't think he would've been terribly conscious of what was going on at the time
>>66374860
>Being conscious after losing both legs
Well if he was, he was also in shock so probably laughing at the whole thing.
>>66374367
What kind of shitty Peugeot is that
>>66375330
306, huebro
>>66375520
didn't think you'd have peugeot down there with all the east asian brands being next door for less
can someone post the webm of vettel throwing the hat at hamilton?
>>66375556
yeah, peugeot is still around here, but the prices are pretty ridiculous, or at least were when there were tariffs in effect
fun fact: my 306 (adjusted for inflation) was over $50k when new
for a 2 litre hatchback
>>66375598
>>66375798
>50k
fuck off literal billionaire
>>66375594
did you mean this
>>66375823
kek, I didn't pay $50k for it
it's worth less than a tenth of that now
>>66375594
https://streamable.com/zyvw
>>66375848
have you thought of buying f1?
>>66375866
my car doubles in value when I pack my camera gear into it lol
I love it all the same though
How would F1 look if /f1/ run the FIA/FOM?
>>66375907
....and this.
>>66375907
....and then, of course, this.
>>66373014
kek
>>66375863
cheers la
>>66375844
Nice hamildubs. He means from last race where Vettel reenacted this event mocking the whole thing with expert German humor.
>>66375890
>my car doubles in value when I pack my camera gear into it lol
I know that feel
>>66355582
>state of the sport
>bans modding for vidya
>brings shitty Quals back
>makes watching races no longer free
>all in one day
Formula One is on life support. It will be dead the second Monza is off the schedule.
>>66376484
>makes watching races no longer free
in just one more country, hardly significant
>>66376517
That doesn't change the fact that it's still total shit, especially considering it's the country that is home to the reigning champion.
>>66376550
f1 is awesome though
>>66376590
Not anymore, now it's just a shell of its former amazing self.
>>66376484
>>bans modding for vidya
what?
>>66376674
f1 is still pretty fucking cool my man, maybe not as awesome as it used to be, but when it really comes down to it, f1 is still pretty dang rad
>>66376699
Yep, all mods for Sim racing games relating to F1 are banned so they can push the Codemasters Games.
>>66376737
Holy shit, that's really stupid.
What the hell FOM/FIA
>>66360509
>It seems with these new power units the best way to gain performance is through engine software/mapping and the different engine modes. It’s like electronic warfare, with the right software you can gain performance immediately without having to manufacture and build a new part. The current rules around designing an F1 car are so restrictive that it’s the one area in the rulebook where you have some freedom.
not necessarily. all the software in the world won't help if you can't recover enough energy and deploy it.
>>66376737
they're only gone from racedepartment as far as i can tell
source: currently downloading f1 1981, 1988, 2001, 2009, and 2013 for rfactor just in case
>>66376723
>f1 is still pretty dang rad
Not everyone has access to your time machine though, Mr. 1980's time traveler dude...
>>66376837
Nah I agree with him, F1 is still a good time. It's just frustrating because it could be better. And it costs too much to watch but whatever I just steal it anyways.
>>66360875
> aston martin have no money.
enough money to make a new engine for the db11, strangely enough.
>and don't mercedes have a stake in them?
5%.
>>66360875
>>66377058
vw literally competes against itself in wec
>>66360924
> i hope stoffel isn't busy next weekend.
>>66361156
great to see high noses aren't banned from WEC.
>>66376590
F1 is steaming shit. The FIA and Bernie have managed to turn the entire series into a complete joke. Dropping the great tracks and going to 3rd world bore-fests like Baku, Malaysia, and Abu Dhabi. Fucking China. No one in China, Singapore, or Bahrain gives a flying fuck about F1. They give the tickets away to have people in the fucking stands. The current engine formula is shit. Way too expensive and sound like fucking weed eaters. The current aero is shit. The current tires are uber-shit, and DRS is a shit gimmick to make up for shit aero in a shit series where passing is almost impossible without gimmick DRS.
Fuck F1 all the way to hell.
>>66363382
unfortunately the right change is to remove the timed elimination.
Last for mad amx
>>66377295
>malaysia & baku
>boring
also the current aero is also not shit and also the only shit thing about the engines is the sound, which is only really bad on tv - having some of the most powerful engines of all time is cool as fuck imo
the racing in f1 is only bad if your idea of racing is something out of mario kart, go watch 5 random races from before 2009 and 5 random races from after 2009 and tell me which had better racing
also were you going to actually go to magny-cours anyway?? if not then why do you care about whether koreans or singaporeans like f1? where are you getting these memes, reddit?
>>66377501
ps singapore is one of the highest-attended races
>>66377295
>yet you are still here
>>66376484
>>66376550
>>66376674
>>66376837
>>66377295
Why do murricans gotta be negative all the time :/
>>66377713
Because their good drivers can only turn left...
>>66367078
If this graph shows anything it's that we need more wet GPs.
>>66369749
Haas fucks up quali again.
Though the impression I get from them is that they don't make that kind of mistake twice.
>>66377831
if it gets them another 6th place ill take it, holy fuck i was surprised.
I cry everytime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVSgOIAOW7g
>>66377501
Sorry, the current aero is shit. The huge front wings are the reason DRS was implement to make passing an occasional feature of current F1. The cars are too sensitive to the disrupted air coming from the car in front. They lose their front end grip too easily. The current aero regs are directly responsible for DRS. And DRS is a gimmick. F1 should not have resort to gimmicks to make a race watchable. Just like intentionally shitty tires should not be a part of the most advanced racing series on the planet. No one will ever claim that Pirelli are a World Championship winning tire manufacturer. Mercedes will be World Champions in spite of Pirelli tires.
That is not F1. That is gimmick1.
>>66378297
The only problem is you can only get what you want if all the teams had an infinite amount of money.
>>66378297
not to mention the shitty v6s. they're so pathetic. f1 should be contain some of the best automotive engineering in the world but instead we're stuck with lawnmowers. can you imagine turbo v12s with modern engineering?
>>66378356
You ignore that F1 cars are currently 45% thermal efficient. Toyota's road car engine gets 20%. With modern fuel regs these cars would beat your holy v12s in a GP.
>>66378297
i'd rather see cars go fast than meme racing, watch GT racing or karting if you're looking for wheel-to-wheel madness. its the ">muh excitement" mentality thats making gimmick f1, not the aero
>>66378356
the current f1 engines are some of the most advanced engines in the world, are you judging them purely off sound? you do realize that in just their third year of development they're already just about on par with the v10s and 80s turbo at the end of their development cycles in terms of horsepower, and beyond them in terms of maximum torque right?
>>66378350
WEC spends less with more flexibility and better racing. F1 is already almost limitless spending if you account for the money Merc, Ferrari, Renault, and Honda have poured into engine development. The fake "cap" the FIA installed is smokescreen to keep the independents poor and uncompetitive at the sharp end of the grid. Face it....F1 is in big trouble with falling ratings, engine costs out of control, and gimmicks to try and make the racing appealing to a shrinking audience of ever more casual fans.
>>66366122
rare
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>>66378382
Who gives a flying fuck how thermally efficient a race car is? Good lord.....you're one of those fucking Prius owners aren't you?
Maybe Formula E would be a better series for you.
>>66374463
I believe they are still there. Back in 2001 I saw a frame by frame photo set (in a F1 magazine I used to buy back then) and you could see his legs were folded like rag doll legs.
>Per @Jamesallenonf1 - over recent weeks, it's been @BTSport vs @SkySports for F1 rights from 2019. Sky won
i really wish bt one. not only because i have it, but because they hopefully would have ditched croft, lelzenby, hill and cuckbert.
>get hype as fuck for start of season
>there's a two week break until the next race
Why do they think this is a good idea?
>>66381942
at least bahrain no longer has the shit-tier 2010 layout.
>>66375907
V16 engines and 2.50m wide cars
