Bahrain FP1 in 172 bongs
>>66378506
feel the haas lads
2nd for 2ndberg
>>66378559
i have a few questions about haas.
why didnt they set up shop in austin texas instead of UK? i realize the uk is like the f1 hub of the world but this is an american team with the headquarters based in america. why is the team in the uk?
why didnt they sign rossi? im pretty sure manor didnt want to renew rossi's contract and haas was looking for a new driver. it seems like a perfect fit. instead they went for gutierrez who has barely any more experience than rossi.
also, how american is the team? really?
>>66378506
>20??: F1 drivers no longer drive cars but control them remotely.
So when is it going to happen /F1/?
>>66378628
aren't FE doing that like next year or something?
>>66378628
>20??: F1 cars are now powered by inline 4 hybrids with a top speed of 65 mph
>>66378621
you could just google the team name and find any number of boring profile pieces done by american newspapers to find most of these answers
>>66378628
The year everyone stops watching.
>>66378662
It's like a curtain raiser event for driverless cars or something. I don't understand the appeal.
>>66378506
ayy lmao
>>66378628
F1 is nothing without drier drama
>>66378877
*driver
[rattling intensifies]
>literally nothing on this weekend
Easter sucks.
>>66379180
F1 with econoboxes when
>>66376484
lel
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/4bu6ig/in_less_than_36_hours_after_the_gpda_expressed/
>>66379485
This is why nobody likes you, Spain...
is this legit?
so if Hamilton posted the fastest time, and Rosberg the 2nd, then Hamilton would start 8th, and Rosberg 7th?
is Bernie retarded? it seems obvious you would intentionally try and drive slow to get closest to 8th place as possible
I just wanna watch some racing..
>>66378621
Their HQ is located in Charlotte because that is not only next to Stewart-Haas Racing's NASCAR's team it is also where all the American racing talent, suppliers and equipment is located. They also needed a European base to work out of and England is where all the F1 talent, suppliers and equipment is located. They also have a facility is Italy because that is where Ferrari and Dallara are located.
They choose Gutierrez over Rossi because Guenther Steiner obviously thought he was the better choice. They did hire a young American as a development driver who hopefully they can bring up into F1 to represent the US.
The team is owned by an American, the team is being run as an American team.
wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww! :3
>>66378506
Could you pretty please post the other close-up picture of the Manor?
>>66379747
It could work if you give some initial championship points in qualifying
>>66380611
go prep the bull hans
was watching these for nostalgia's sake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX7rMNjHJD8
one thing that really stands out is how much more common driver mistakes were, especially when jostling for position. there was a lot more tension because you could sense the drivers were much closer to their limits
first for who here listens to /alt+F1/
>>66380409
>>66381022
DESIGNATED
Went to an Indian restaurant yesterday. It didn't just have toilets but the proper fecal inspection tableu ones. Highly impressed with Rajeet desu.
Also:
I have a chance to go to Japan this year, should I try to get tickets for the GP? Or is F1 gonna be kil by then?
>>66381284
Danke Schön mein freund, komme wieder.
sorry my German is shit-tier desu
how did I not know that dailymotion has pretty much every season? shit's ultra-comfy
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2u7z0k_f1-season-review-1995-part-1_sport
>>66381006
Thank you Sweden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
>>66381284
>Or is F1 gonna be kil by then?
Perhaps, but hamildubs say he'll also be kill then. That would be getting your money's worth
>>66381424
>>66381302
Was just going to say that.
>>66381302
>>66381302
Better than my Indian tho tbqh, based SIDF* member.
*Schumacher internet defense force
>>66381610
why are you posting that pic in every thread?
>>66381615
Pretty sure that's the first time I posted it. It's just a shitty image with no relevant content so I chose it. I'm the one who used to post Vettel in his blue tinted sunglasses and red bull outfit all the time.
Sorry for the inconvenice, bitte nicht sauer sein.
>>66381459
>>66381424
great banter guys
>>66380611
>>66380687
>posting blank images
What's wrong with you?
>going around in circles again and again
>not going uphill and downhill
>>66381941
We can make dirt racing tracks out of your designated shitting streets.
>>66379747
The only decent proposal like this that I've heard was to combine reverse championship position with qualifying position.
Example:
Rosberg gets 22 points for leading the WDC and 2 points for qualifying second. That's 24 points.
Wehrlein gets 7 points for being 16th in WDC and 21 points for qualifying 21st. That's 28 points.
Raikkonen gets 0 points for being unclassified in the WDC and 4 points for qualifying fourth. That's 4 points.
Then everyone is ordered from least points to most.
>>66382259
Leave the quali as it is. It's perfectly fine in the 2015 style.
What the fuck are F1 trying to achieve? Make every single moment an explosive energy excitement fest? Why is everyone somehow convinced that F1 is in it's most boring form now? Has anybody even watched races from like 2004 when there was maybe 4 overtakes the whole race?
Quali is boring most of the time, it was even more boring before. People didn't even watch FP's in the 80s or 90s. And now people are bitching that FREE PRACTICE SESSIONS are not exciting enough. Most races in 80s and 90s were mostly boring. F1 is the quintessential "leave the TV for 5 mins. come back and nothing's happened" sport and many people in the past woudl basically just watch the start and the first 5 laps and then watch something else.
Jesus christ. It's embarrassing to have to justify why I still follow this shit.
>>66382259
Convoluted bollocks desu, just put the fastest cars at the front.
If they're desperate for fast cars at the back then they could always just order the grid from the last GP's finishing positions.
>>66382346
>Quali is boring most of the time, it was even more boring before. People didn't even watch FP's in the 80s or 90s. And now people are bitching that FREE PRACTICE SESSIONS are not exciting enough. Most races in 80s and 90s were mostly boring. F1 is the quintessential "leave the TV for 5 mins. come back and nothing's happened" sport and many people in the past would basically just watch the start and the first 5 laps and then watch something else.
You just gave a good explanation on why FIA is "trying" to fix things.
>>66382346
I favor the old quali too, but that is the only decent proposal that would punish faster drivers.
>>66382387
Reverse grids reward sandbagging at the end of the race or even retiring if there is no chance of points.
>>66382346
>Has anybody even watched races from like 2004 when there was maybe 4 overtakes the whole race?
I loved them though. Those overtakes were often much more worthwhile than any of the DRS-helped ones we see today. There's little skill in passing these days. If the car's capable of it, you're going to do it anyway, with or without DRS. If the car's less capable of it, then the worse you are at wheel to wheel racing and the more cowardly your opponent is, the more likely you are to get past (see Bottas vs Palmer in Australia).
>>66382438
>slowest car in Q3 starts on pole
>Q3 becomes competition of who can set the slowest laptime possible
>cars cruising at 20 km/h in 1st gear
>10+ minute laptimes
perfect system
You need a system that is unjewable because the teams employ so many strategists that they will figure out the best way to jew the system before even running, as we saw in Australia
>>66382546
Yes, the reverse Q3 system is obviously retarded. But I don't see how the reverse WDC + normal quali system is jewable.
>>66382546
This actually happened once
>>66381615
>hating the new meme
>>66382546
Found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el0QV-k_uqs
The story is that the old qualifying consisted of 2 lap attempts, the first one (pre-qualifying) to set an order for the second lap (reversed) and the second being the actual grid decider
So for example, Faglonso does a lap and ends 7th, then he's the 13th to go again (assuming 20 cars) to do the final time.
So what happened is that there was rain expected in the middle of the second set of laps, so everyone wanted to be the first to start the second set of laps to avoid the rain. This led to drivers going purposelly slow, some started doing flips and burnouts or stopped in track.
And then it didn't rain at all, thanks Britain's shitty weather!
Sadly I can't find video fo the pre-qualifying, which was the fun one
>>66381117
SHITTING
>>66383120
Is /bundes/ ded or something?
>>66383085
Watch out, Honey, not to wish things that can backfire on you. I'm just saying you know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>>66383120
Are you the animefag who goes around posting cricket is gay?
>>66383196
hopefully
>>66383557
So am I, Sweetie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
There is nothing to be afraid of...(Or is there?)
>>66383618
Oh Honey, I'm sorry. (Or am I? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
>>66381610
That isn't him; I'm the regular SIDF guy. Just been away from shitposting the past week since I'm on vacation.
>>66383288
>implying it's not
>>66383637
>>66383665
GET A ROOM4BOOMBOOM
>>66383665
What? I can't stop doing it if you don't explaint it properly, you know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>>66383767
I see your incessant shitposting hasn't ceased over the past week... I'm beginning to suspect you're an Aussie under a proxy
>>66380678
what the fuck were those aerodynamic wings on the side of the ferrari? jesus.
>it's an India and Germany shitposting episode today, folks
>>66383914
Where?
circuit of the americas
>>66383966
did you filter me? oh that's not very nice
>>66384018
Nah, appchan x automatically hides replies to posts made by filtered people, so if you replied to one of them (most likely India), that might explain it.
I don't even know why I'm still using that extension besides me being used to it.
>Lewis Hamilton
>Literally wants to be Senna
>only won in Monaco once - Rosberg has won there 3x in a row
>Never won in Brazil
How much do you think this triggers him? How is he so shit at Interlagos anyway? It is arguably the simplest track on the calendar aside from maybe Canada or Monza
>>66383789
kripya apna naak apne paas rakhein
>>66383802
They were Xwings, Tyrrell(not sure) put them on at Monaco in 97 for extra dowforce. There were no rules saying they couldn't be there so in 98 a bunch of teams used them for high down force tracks.
>>66382546
>You need a system that is unjewable
I like the "one and done" approach. Give the drivers practice, and then on qual day, you get warm up laps, and then you get ONE qual lap, and if you fuck it up, you fuck it up...and make them start from a stopped position so they have to showcase initial take off skill as well as standard lap driving skill.
>>66381284
you could get tickets for the WEC race in fuji, it's only a week later. Of course there is a strong chance it will be during a typhoon or monsoon since they keep scheduling it during the rainiest time of year in Japan.
Take the qualifying order from the previous race, and line them up back to front at the end of pit lane. Send a car out every three seconds to make a lap.
Ok. I fixed the qualifying.
>40 min quali
>Only on super hard tyres that reach their prime after 20-30mins of driving
>>66384601
Alternatively, if he's got the money/time then go to both the grand Prix and the WEC race
>>66384441
Didn't the one-lap qualifying already fail in mid 2000s due to sponsors' unhappiness and weather unpredictability?
>initial take off skill
I like this idea but i think stationary starts would be physically too risky since it is one start-finish line. Plus most constructors don't have engines under their controls. Smaller teams will be fucked.
hour-long podcast with ross brawn and nick fry - they discuss brawn gp, how it almost didn't happen, and the late development of the double diffuser:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/history/ross-brawn-and-nick-fry-on-2009/
>whenisf1on still broken
>shows the same time for qualy and race
>they still haven't fixed it
Triggered.
lolz what happened to that faggot kraut?
>>66385992
He hit his head while skiing.
>>66386060
watch out for SIDF :DDD
>>66386060
>insulting a mentally disabled person
Stay classy, Binland
>>66386433
its like a black guy saying nigger
>>66386089
That's a slighlty inconvenient abbreviation considering that there's still a few Brazilians left here that legitimately think Senna was better than Prost.
>>66386467
MSCIDF?
>>66386467
As far as poles and race wins in 1988/1989 Senna was miles ahead. Prost was worse than Secondberg.
happy easter /f1/ :)
>>66386706
dude Jesus literally just died today by crucifixion
how can you be happy?
>>66386706
Not yet you heretic.
>>66386780
>Jesus
>ever dying
Pick one
When are heads going to roll in f1?
I mean, it looks like there is a serious conflict building up in the powerful entities.
>>66387016
fuck off I haven't read the end of the book
I'm only at the crucifixion part
but thanks for spoiler alert nonetheless
>>66387016
that's right, meu negro.
>Kimi to SHR next year in Cup series
How would that even work? There's no way NASCAR would approve him to race anywhere other than the road courses if he just hopped in out of nowhere.
>>66387088
how young are you? he's already done nascar things and of course they'd approve him, there is plenty of precedent. How does a retard like you even turn on a computer?
>>66385503
Use the F1 app to add session times to your phones calendar in the correct time zone.
>>66387166
>>66387088
I didn't know Kimi had a thing for the 'americana'
>>66387186
I think he is just fixated on driving cars fast in circles
>>66387166
You have to have more experience to be approved to run the Daytona 500, some kind of superspeedway runs in lower levels first. That's not really a matter of opinion, that's how it works.
>>66387186
He already drove a pair of NASCAR races once a few years ago.
>>66387279
>>66387286
Any chance of he going to indy though? That would be fun to watch.
>>66387286
>You have to have more experience to be approved to run the Daytona 500, some kind of superspeedway runs in lower levels first
where is this from? sam hornish and JPM didn't need to do any super speedway running before "being approved" for a full season
>>66386706
>>66386780
>>66386874
>>66387016
The Easter LARP is fun, but the Christmas LARP is the best!
>>66387435
if he brought a sponsor, maybe. I don't know if he's ever had an interest in that though.
>>66387460
Hornish didn't jump right in with a full season, and he'd already run ovals plenty in Indycar. And Montoya ran the ARCA race at Talladega right when he came over. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>66387460
JPM: cart experience, ass load of speedway experience
Sam Hornish Junior: 3 time indycar champion, Indy 500 winner.
Indy drivers canngo to NASCAR with relative ease because they know oval racing. Kimi knows what he's doing, he'd have no problem with NASCAR or Indy
Kimi's truck race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1giheWuPVYY
>>66387499
and why wouldn't Kimi be able to do something similar after a deal was reached?
Also keep in mind all of this is only an internet rumor at this point that doesn't even factor in that the SHR team is already full for next year with no indication of expansion.
>>66387660
He could, I'm just saying, he couldn't show up to Daytona in 2017 without having done something first towards the end of this year.
>>66387286
>Kimi Raikkonen
>NASCAR Nationwide Series Results
>2011 Top Gear 300
>Start: 22 Finish: 27 (4 laps down)
>NASCAR Camping World Truck Series
>2011 North Carolina Education Lottery 200
>Start: 31 Finish: 15 (finished on the lead lap)
Kyle Bush hooked him up with a ride for both of those races.
I'd like to see the dude give NASCAR a shot, but I don't think many road racers can handle the blow to the ego when they realize how difficult it is to win on the oval tracks, against oval drivers. "But we only have to turn left!!!! WHY AM I NOT WINNING!!!!"
>>66386706
happy new year george.
>>66387705
Lewis does NASCAR, he's already trying to be an American so it makes sense. Vettel and rosberg join a year later.
Top four is always HamRosVetRai.
>>66387883
Hamilton seems like a prissy bitch, he'd be in the back with Danicles
>>66386780
>>66386874
he died for our sins and then resurrected, showing the true love of God.
>>66387883
Hamilton would get his glamour ass ripped in half. No one has time for that bullshit.
>>66387977
stop spoiling the end of the book
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>66387957
Danica to HAAS 2017, Big John to Ferrari 2017
>>66387957
>>66387883
>Hamilton in NASCAR
>a car rams him
>cries over the radio "HE TRIED TO PUSH ME OFF THE TRACK!!!!"
>>66387995
that isn't the end, only the beginning
>>66388016
Pretty much this. I could see Kimi working, and knowing how to race with bumpers and fenders without being a dipshit like Villeneuve was, but I don't see Hamilton ever getting the program.
>yfw when a woman has actually won a race in American "top level racing"
>>66388107
a
fucking
leaf
>>66387977
Should have rolled with more hp's and con.
>>66388016
>cries over the radio "HE TRIED TO PUSH ME OFF THE TRACK!!!!"
read that in his voice
>>66387977
>Reading the children's version of the book
I'll spoil it for all of you, the Romans killed him knowing he was patient 0 and yet he still came back as a zombie.
>>66388107
Her, and her team, were in the right place at the right time.
That's racing sometimes.
>>66387041
>Scott Speed
Great name for a racing driver, shame he was proper shit.
>A question to Mark: do you have any suggestion to Daniel in order to manage the relationship with Sebasitian...maybe the kKnife of Crocodile Dundee?
>>66388438
I know I'm just having a laff
>>66388564
thank mr skeltal
>>66388564
>>66388556
the Red Bull team USA scholarship driver search thing was a sham, Patrick Long and Joey Hand were in a league of their own in all the tests, but for some reason Speed was pushed through to be the recipient of the contract. If I recall correctly part of the problem was that the contract was essentially a 5 year slavery agreement, so guys like Long and Hand dropped out intentionally.
what other motorsports does /f1/ watch?
>>66389257
None. I had been into MotoGP for the last 16 years, but I dropped it once and for all after Philip Island last year once I realized that I simply couldn't get myself to care about it at all.
I'd like to try and give other motorsports a shot, but watching anything other than open-wheelers feels like a chore.
>>66389257
V8 Supercars and WEC.
>>66389257
DTM
>>66389257
whatevers on tv desu
>>66389257
Motogp, started this year.
Nothing else cause it's not on tv and I can't be bothered to watch shitty streams.
>>66389257
Indycar, bit of Formula E sometimes if I remember. Always watch Le Mans as well.
>>66389428
Any advice for someone looking to finally watch Le Mans seriously this year and potentially get into WEC?
>>66389257
motogp, wec, wrc, v8 supercars
>>66389446
le mans: keep the weekend open
wec: someone always posts a link to the official stream here.
>>66389257
Indycar and IMSA and a few of the other big endurance races. On occasion I go to the local dirt track when a 'big' sprintcar series is there
>>66389257
NASCAR, Indy, and now the Formula E series and I try to catch the Aussie V8 races when i can.
This is the earliest thing I remember about Monaco.
>>66389631
olivier panis' win for me. mad race that was.
this sport will be dead in 5-10 years
>>66389673
we know
>>66389673
2019 tbhfam
>>66389673
It will never die. We will still have F1 in 2099.
>tfw Bernie is still in charge via a hologram
>>66389673
Only in our souls.
>>66389673
it died years ago
>>66389257
F1, Irish Road Racing, BTCC, NASCAR, Pirrili World Challenge
F1 is my fav I make an effort to catch above mentions but will watch most Motorsports especially big races like Le Mans and Bathurst
>>66389257
WEC, Formula E and Super GT. I'll watch B/WRC, BTCC and IMSA if they're on too.
Going to WEC Silverstone this year plus the Masters Historic Festival. Better not bloody piss it down again.
>>66389257
Getting real into Indycar, despite their best efforts.
Somewhat non-shitposting question... was last week the first time a Manor passed someone under 'normal' race conditions?
>>66390310
Bianchi at Monaco probably passed someone under regular conditions.
>>66391417
>Bianchi
;_;
>>66391417
Marussia were faster than Caterham 75% of the time in 2014 so it doesn't count
>>66391603
>75%
You mean less than 25%. Sure, Marussia had a better overall lineup by sole virtue of having Bianchi, but while Caterham essentially fielded a modified 2013 car at the start of the season, they upgraded it pretty quickly (Spain).
>>66390310
Rossi passed Hamilton at Singapore 2015
to be fair Hamilton had an engine problem so i don't know if you want to call that "normal" race conditions
>>66390310
Stevens and Merhi/Rossi passed eachother a lot last year
>4 qualifying sessions
>average of fastest lap from each session determines grid
>No elimination, all cars out for all sessions
Y/N?
>>66393818
What happens if multiple drivers set different lap times in each session but have the same average?
>>66393858
Use fastest overall lap for tiebreakers.
>>66393818
>Average laps
We had that. It's fucking shit.
>>66393893
reduce it to 3 sessions (to neatly fit 3 15 minute sessions together) and I'm all for it, much better than the elimination bullshit
>>66394000
czeched la
>>66394000
I've only been following F1 for a couple years.
Was it an average of all laps, or only average of fastest laps?
>>66394063
iirc there was one session on Saturday with low-fuel, and a second on Sunday with race fuel, and the driver's fastest lap in each session was averaged
>>66394063
Average of single lap runs across two sessions (Saturday and Sunday). Saturday was low fuel where as Sunday you had the fuel you would start the race with.
It lasted for like the first 5 races in 2005 before they replaced it.
>>66394140
I think they just added the two laps together.
But the result is the same as using the average. Its not good, it has to be a single lap.
>>66394140
How long were the sessions?
It seems like it would be more interesting with many sessions, perhaps 4 or even 5, of around 10 minutes.
Each team has to try to set a good lap every session, and you don't have the fastest teams slacking off like they do now in Q1, and Q2.
>>66394302
They were single lap run session so yours is marginally better I guess
What is the point of Manor? What do they gain by being in F1? Do they even turn a profit?
Ok, so: new qualifying format:
Q1:
Random seedings, two cars on the track, rolling start a-la v8 supercars, one lap, first past the post goes through to Q2.
Q2:
Same thing.
Q3:
Multiball!!!!
>>66395675
nah, new qualy is a knockout tournament of the drivers playing Chicken
Why don't they make it kind of like a battle royale system where you have to knock out the other drivers through any means necessary?
They could bring Maldonado back as the track boss who intervenes at random times.
>>66380534
Honestly this.
Reverse the order of the top 8 but give points to whoever qualified first, second, third, fourth, fifth. Like 10 7, 5, 3, 2, 1 respectively.
>no reply for almost 3 hours
dead sport
another season of lolhamiltonwins
>>66398860
>"sport"
>>66399024
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>66399010
But he hasn't won a single race yet.
>Baku GP is actually happening
>>66399046
merc is sandbagging
>>66398860
love that filename
>>66399057
My only grievance is that its called the European Grand Prix. But it could be pretty dope, i.e. a huge clusterfuck with massive crashes thanks to Mad Amx
>>66387286
Isn't NASCAR all about being fan-friendy? I can only imagine Kimi being called arrogant by Reid or Tyler on twitter because he didn't want to put off his sunglasses.
>>66399057
>it's in a country that's at war
>it's in a country that's in the most dangerous political region in the world
What can go wrong?
>>66399735
hamilton gets kidnapped and killed?
>>66399735
Worst Korea is also at war, but they still had the GP
>>66400075
I said wrong, not right.
>>66400383
bahrain too. fuck cucku - watching le mans tbhfam.
POST YOU'RE OC !!!
>>66400611
And my masterpiece
>>66400961
this one is lame
>>66400970
so is this
>>66400984
>>66401000
>>66400611
>>66400611
>>66399075
Rosberg won tho
>>66401038
I did the head tho
>>66401043
>>66401061
>>66401061
uwot
![-XY035[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/gxSMD0h.gif "-XY035[1].gif")
>>66401051
>i've seen some shit
>>66401072
no idea where the original is
>>66401081
you just finished the hand
I did the head but I fucked up the hands so someone ( I presume you) finished it properly
>>66400611
My only contribution of note
>>66400611
I'm OC.
didn't even save the susie wolff / alonso sunbathing thing i made before fuggg
>>66400611
i made the F1 wojaks
>>66401131
that reminds me i've got to make a new one for Manor, Renault and Haas
>>66401128
do we still not have source on that grill?
>>66401144
nope, we also don't have a source on the Haas qt
why did I do this lol
>>66401111
absolutely shit
nice quads tho
>>66401000
>Bailey Jay
should be Grosjean
>>66401128
this one?
>>66401240
>>66401000
>>66401283
yeaaa
>>66401240
>>66401225
>shit
how apt.
>>66401283
thanks
>>66400458
well it'll go wrong for hamilton. rip.
this just in
Ohcee
>>66401562
lel
I have one of these too
>>66401602
not funny. you went over the line
>>66389257
Been watching MotoGP since i was young. They didn't show it live on tv until Kallio got into MotoGP, so i got really hyped in 08. That then fizzeled like my interest.
Le Mans is pretty big here. I'll watch as many hours of it as humanly possible.
FE seems pretty exciting. They've started showing Indy and Nascar, but i think it's too memey. Also kind of lost interest in GP2 and Formula renault
>>66389257
I regularly watch MotoGP, and Formula E (if that counts), and like to follow Nascar and Indycar casually, but with interest in the championships.
Apart from these, if there's any motorsports on the telly, I watch it, even if I have no idea of the field or series.
>>66389257
>>66395165
Feeder team.
There's really 4 levels of F1.
Championship teams:
Ferrari, red bull, Mercedes
Ex-championship teams:
Williams, McLaren, Renault
Midfield feeders:
Sauber, Force India
New team feeders:
Manor, Haas
It is possible to move up groups and slide down. Sauber sank to 'new team' rank in '14 for getting 0 points. McLaren sank from the championship in '13 when Hamilton left and too engineers with him, thus rising Mercedes from midfield to championship.
>>66384196
Senna barely even won in Brazil either...
Who /Haas/ here
>>66389257
24 Hours of Le Mans/Spa
NASCAR during road course weekends
Indy 500
Blancpain Endurance Series
i bet mad max loses his seat before next season
>>66404516
Get your hand off Hamilton's cock you fucking munter.
Mercedes' rise started with Brawn buying Honda.
Is there a private tracker for F1?
>>66405117
racingfor.me but piranha.excom.us is open reg and pretty much just as good.
>>66405187
Cool, thanks.
>>66404516
>when Hamilton left and too engineers with him,
He literally only 'took' Paddy Lowe, who also came a year after (I.e. In 2014). All of Merc's current success is down to Brawn having insider info on the 2014 technical specs (both engine and otherwise) before they were officially ratified (This was confirmed by Shekelstone last year).
He then spent 2011-13 in assembling a number of former technical directors to run the development of each department, with a clear focus on 2014. Hamilton has almost nothing to do with MWL
