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Bahrain FP1 in 172 bongs
>>66378506
feel the haas lads
2nd for 2ndberg
>>66378559
i have a few questions about haas.
why didnt they set up shop in austin texas instead of UK? i realize the uk is like the f1 hub of the world but this is an american team with the headquarters based in america. why is the team in the uk?
why didnt they sign rossi? im pretty sure manor didnt want to renew rossi's contract and haas was looking for a new driver. it seems like a perfect fit. instead they went for gutierrez who has barely any more experience than rossi.
also, how american is the team? really?
>>66378506
>20??: F1 drivers no longer drive cars but control them remotely.
So when is it going to happen /F1/?
>>66378628
aren't FE doing that like next year or something?
>>66378628
>20??: F1 cars are now powered by inline 4 hybrids with a top speed of 65 mph
>>66378621
you could just google the team name and find any number of boring profile pieces done by american newspapers to find most of these answers
>>66378628
The year everyone stops watching.
>>66378662
It's like a curtain raiser event for driverless cars or something. I don't understand the appeal.
>>66378506
ayy lmao
>>66378628
F1 is nothing without drier drama
>>66378877
*driver
[rattling intensifies]
>literally nothing on this weekend
Easter sucks.
>>66379180
F1 with econoboxes when
>>66376484
lel
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/4bu6ig/in_less_than_36_hours_after_the_gpda_expressed/
>>66379485
This is why nobody likes you, Spain...
is this legit?
so if Hamilton posted the fastest time, and Rosberg the 2nd, then Hamilton would start 8th, and Rosberg 7th?
is Bernie retarded? it seems obvious you would intentionally try and drive slow to get closest to 8th place as possible
I just wanna watch some racing..
>>66378621
Their HQ is located in Charlotte because that is not only next to Stewart-Haas Racing's NASCAR's team it is also where all the American racing talent, suppliers and equipment is located. They also needed a European base to work out of and England is where all the F1 talent, suppliers and equipment is located. They also have a facility is Italy because that is where Ferrari and Dallara are located.
They choose Gutierrez over Rossi because Guenther Steiner obviously thought he was the better choice. They did hire a young American as a development driver who hopefully they can bring up into F1 to represent the US.
The team is owned by an American, the team is being run as an American team.
wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww! :3
>>66378506
Could you pretty please post the other close-up picture of the Manor?
>>66379747
It could work if you give some initial championship points in qualifying
>>66380611
go prep the bull hans
was watching these for nostalgia's sake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX7rMNjHJD8
one thing that really stands out is how much more common driver mistakes were, especially when jostling for position. there was a lot more tension because you could sense the drivers were much closer to their limits
first for who here listens to /alt+F1/
>>66381022
DESIGNATED
Went to an Indian restaurant yesterday. It didn't just have toilets but the proper fecal inspection tableu ones. Highly impressed with Rajeet desu.
Also:
I have a chance to go to Japan this year, should I try to get tickets for the GP? Or is F1 gonna be kil by then?
>>66381284
Danke Schön mein freund, komme wieder.
sorry my German is shit-tier desu
how did I not know that dailymotion has pretty much every season? shit's ultra-comfy
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2u7z0k_f1-season-review-1995-part-1_sport
>>66381006
Thank you Sweden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
>>66381284
>Or is F1 gonna be kil by then?
Perhaps, but hamildubs say he'll also be kill then. That would be getting your money's worth
>>66381424
>>66381302
Was just going to say that.
>>66381302
>>66381302
Better than my Indian tho tbqh, based SIDF* member.
*Schumacher internet defense force
>>66381610
why are you posting that pic in every thread?
>>66381615
Pretty sure that's the first time I posted it. It's just a shitty image with no relevant content so I chose it. I'm the one who used to post Vettel in his blue tinted sunglasses and red bull outfit all the time.
Sorry for the inconvenice, bitte nicht sauer sein.
>>66381459
>>66381424
great banter guys
>>66380611
>>66380687
>posting blank images
What's wrong with you?
>going around in circles again and again
>not going uphill and downhill
>>66381941
We can make dirt racing tracks out of your designated shitting streets.
>>66379747
The only decent proposal like this that I've heard was to combine reverse championship position with qualifying position.
Example:
Rosberg gets 22 points for leading the WDC and 2 points for qualifying second. That's 24 points.
Wehrlein gets 7 points for being 16th in WDC and 21 points for qualifying 21st. That's 28 points.
Raikkonen gets 0 points for being unclassified in the WDC and 4 points for qualifying fourth. That's 4 points.
Then everyone is ordered from least points to most.
>>66382259
Leave the quali as it is. It's perfectly fine in the 2015 style.
What the fuck are F1 trying to achieve? Make every single moment an explosive energy excitement fest? Why is everyone somehow convinced that F1 is in it's most boring form now? Has anybody even watched races from like 2004 when there was maybe 4 overtakes the whole race?
Quali is boring most of the time, it was even more boring before. People didn't even watch FP's in the 80s or 90s. And now people are bitching that FREE PRACTICE SESSIONS are not exciting enough. Most races in 80s and 90s were mostly boring. F1 is the quintessential "leave the TV for 5 mins. come back and nothing's happened" sport and many people in the past woudl basically just watch the start and the first 5 laps and then watch something else.
Jesus christ. It's embarrassing to have to justify why I still follow this shit.
>>66382259
Convoluted bollocks desu, just put the fastest cars at the front.
If they're desperate for fast cars at the back then they could always just order the grid from the last GP's finishing positions.
>>66382346
>Quali is boring most of the time, it was even more boring before. People didn't even watch FP's in the 80s or 90s. And now people are bitching that FREE PRACTICE SESSIONS are not exciting enough. Most races in 80s and 90s were mostly boring. F1 is the quintessential "leave the TV for 5 mins. come back and nothing's happened" sport and many people in the past would basically just watch the start and the first 5 laps and then watch something else.
You just gave a good explanation on why FIA is "trying" to fix things.
>>66382346
I favor the old quali too, but that is the only decent proposal that would punish faster drivers.
>>66382387
Reverse grids reward sandbagging at the end of the race or even retiring if there is no chance of points.
>>66382346
>Has anybody even watched races from like 2004 when there was maybe 4 overtakes the whole race?
I loved them though. Those overtakes were often much more worthwhile than any of the DRS-helped ones we see today. There's little skill in passing these days. If the car's capable of it, you're going to do it anyway, with or without DRS. If the car's less capable of it, then the worse you are at wheel to wheel racing and the more cowardly your opponent is, the more likely you are to get past (see Bottas vs Palmer in Australia).
>>66382438
>slowest car in Q3 starts on pole
>Q3 becomes competition of who can set the slowest laptime possible
>cars cruising at 20 km/h in 1st gear
>10+ minute laptimes
perfect system
You need a system that is unjewable because the teams employ so many strategists that they will figure out the best way to jew the system before even running, as we saw in Australia
>>66382546
Yes, the reverse Q3 system is obviously retarded. But I don't see how the reverse WDC + normal quali system is jewable.
>>66382546
This actually happened once
>>66381615
>hating the new meme
>>66382546
Found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el0QV-k_uqs
The story is that the old qualifying consisted of 2 lap attempts, the first one (pre-qualifying) to set an order for the second lap (reversed) and the second being the actual grid decider
So for example, Faglonso does a lap and ends 7th, then he's the 13th to go again (assuming 20 cars) to do the final time.
So what happened is that there was rain expected in the middle of the second set of laps, so everyone wanted to be the first to start the second set of laps to avoid the rain. This led to drivers going purposelly slow, some started doing flips and burnouts or stopped in track.
And then it didn't rain at all, thanks Britain's shitty weather!
Sadly I can't find video fo the pre-qualifying, which was the fun one
>>66381117
SHITTING
>>66383120
Is /bundes/ ded or something?
>>66383085
Watch out, Honey, not to wish things that can backfire on you. I'm just saying you know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>>66383120
Are you the animefag who goes around posting cricket is gay?
>>66383196
hopefully
>>66383557
So am I, Sweetie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
There is nothing to be afraid of...(Or is there?)
>>66383618
Oh Honey, I'm sorry. (Or am I? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
>>66381610
That isn't him; I'm the regular SIDF guy. Just been away from shitposting the past week since I'm on vacation.
>>66383288
>implying it's not
>>66383637
>>66383665
GET A ROOM4BOOMBOOM
>>66383665
What? I can't stop doing it if you don't explaint it properly, you know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>>66383767
I see your incessant shitposting hasn't ceased over the past week... I'm beginning to suspect you're an Aussie under a proxy
>>66380678
what the fuck were those aerodynamic wings on the side of the ferrari? jesus.
>it's an India and Germany shitposting episode today, folks
>>66383914
Where?
circuit of the americas
>>66383966
did you filter me? oh that's not very nice
>>66384018
Nah, appchan x automatically hides replies to posts made by filtered people, so if you replied to one of them (most likely India), that might explain it.
I don't even know why I'm still using that extension besides me being used to it.
>Lewis Hamilton
>Literally wants to be Senna
>only won in Monaco once - Rosberg has won there 3x in a row
>Never won in Brazil
How much do you think this triggers him? How is he so shit at Interlagos anyway? It is arguably the simplest track on the calendar aside from maybe Canada or Monza
>>66383789
kripya apna naak apne paas rakhein
>>66383802
They were Xwings, Tyrrell(not sure) put them on at Monaco in 97 for extra dowforce. There were no rules saying they couldn't be there so in 98 a bunch of teams used them for high down force tracks.
>>66382546
>You need a system that is unjewable
I like the "one and done" approach. Give the drivers practice, and then on qual day, you get warm up laps, and then you get ONE qual lap, and if you fuck it up, you fuck it up...and make them start from a stopped position so they have to showcase initial take off skill as well as standard lap driving skill.
>>66381284
you could get tickets for the WEC race in fuji, it's only a week later. Of course there is a strong chance it will be during a typhoon or monsoon since they keep scheduling it during the rainiest time of year in Japan.
Take the qualifying order from the previous race, and line them up back to front at the end of pit lane. Send a car out every three seconds to make a lap.
Ok. I fixed the qualifying.
>40 min quali
>Only on super hard tyres that reach their prime after 20-30mins of driving
>>66384601
Alternatively, if he's got the money/time then go to both the grand Prix and the WEC race
>>66384441
Didn't the one-lap qualifying already fail in mid 2000s due to sponsors' unhappiness and weather unpredictability?
>initial take off skill
I like this idea but i think stationary starts would be physically too risky since it is one start-finish line. Plus most constructors don't have engines under their controls. Smaller teams will be fucked.
hour-long podcast with ross brawn and nick fry - they discuss brawn gp, how it almost didn't happen, and the late development of the double diffuser:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/history/ross-brawn-and-nick-fry-on-2009/
>whenisf1on still broken
>shows the same time for qualy and race
>they still haven't fixed it
Triggered.
lolz what happened to that faggot kraut?
>>66385992
He hit his head while skiing.
>>66386060
watch out for SIDF :DDD
>>66386060
>insulting a mentally disabled person
Stay classy, Binland
>>66386433
its like a black guy saying nigger
>>66386089
That's a slighlty inconvenient abbreviation considering that there's still a few Brazilians left here that legitimately think Senna was better than Prost.
>>66386467
MSCIDF?
>>66386467
As far as poles and race wins in 1988/1989 Senna was miles ahead. Prost was worse than Secondberg.
happy easter /f1/ :)
>>66386706
dude Jesus literally just died today by crucifixion
how can you be happy?
>>66386706
Not yet you heretic.
>>66386780
>Jesus
>ever dying
Pick one
When are heads going to roll in f1?
I mean, it looks like there is a serious conflict building up in the powerful entities.
>>66387016
fuck off I haven't read the end of the book
I'm only at the crucifixion part
but thanks for spoiler alert nonetheless
>>66387016
that's right, meu negro.
>Kimi to SHR next year in Cup series
How would that even work? There's no way NASCAR would approve him to race anywhere other than the road courses if he just hopped in out of nowhere.
>>66387088
how young are you? he's already done nascar things and of course they'd approve him, there is plenty of precedent. How does a retard like you even turn on a computer?
>>66385503
Use the F1 app to add session times to your phones calendar in the correct time zone.
>>66387166
>>66387088
I didn't know Kimi had a thing for the 'americana'
>>66387186
I think he is just fixated on driving cars fast in circles
>>66387166
You have to have more experience to be approved to run the Daytona 500, some kind of superspeedway runs in lower levels first. That's not really a matter of opinion, that's how it works.
>>66387186
He already drove a pair of NASCAR races once a few years ago.
>>66387279
>>66387286
Any chance of he going to indy though? That would be fun to watch.
>>66387286
>You have to have more experience to be approved to run the Daytona 500, some kind of superspeedway runs in lower levels first
where is this from? sam hornish and JPM didn't need to do any super speedway running before "being approved" for a full season
>>66386706
>>66386780
>>66386874
>>66387016
The Easter LARP is fun, but the Christmas LARP is the best!
>>66387435
if he brought a sponsor, maybe. I don't know if he's ever had an interest in that though.
>>66387460
Hornish didn't jump right in with a full season, and he'd already run ovals plenty in Indycar. And Montoya ran the ARCA race at Talladega right when he came over. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>66387460
JPM: cart experience, ass load of speedway experience
Sam Hornish Junior: 3 time indycar champion, Indy 500 winner.
Indy drivers canngo to NASCAR with relative ease because they know oval racing. Kimi knows what he's doing, he'd have no problem with NASCAR or Indy
Kimi's truck race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1giheWuPVYY
>>66387499
and why wouldn't Kimi be able to do something similar after a deal was reached?
Also keep in mind all of this is only an internet rumor at this point that doesn't even factor in that the SHR team is already full for next year with no indication of expansion.
>>66387660
He could, I'm just saying, he couldn't show up to Daytona in 2017 without having done something first towards the end of this year.
>>66387286
>Kimi Raikkonen
>NASCAR Nationwide Series Results
>2011 Top Gear 300
>Start: 22 Finish: 27 (4 laps down)
>NASCAR Camping World Truck Series
>2011 North Carolina Education Lottery 200
>Start: 31 Finish: 15 (finished on the lead lap)
Kyle Bush hooked him up with a ride for both of those races.
I'd like to see the dude give NASCAR a shot, but I don't think many road racers can handle the blow to the ego when they realize how difficult it is to win on the oval tracks, against oval drivers. "But we only have to turn left!!!! WHY AM I NOT WINNING!!!!"
>>66386706
happy new year george.
>>66387705
Lewis does NASCAR, he's already trying to be an American so it makes sense. Vettel and rosberg join a year later.
Top four is always HamRosVetRai.
>>66387883
Hamilton seems like a prissy bitch, he'd be in the back with Danicles
>>66386780
>>66386874
he died for our sins and then resurrected, showing the true love of God.
>>66387883
Hamilton would get his glamour ass ripped in half. No one has time for that bullshit.
>>66387977
stop spoiling the end of the book
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>66387957
Danica to HAAS 2017, Big John to Ferrari 2017
>>66387957
>>66387883
>Hamilton in NASCAR
>a car rams him
>cries over the radio "HE TRIED TO PUSH ME OFF THE TRACK!!!!"
>>66387995
that isn't the end, only the beginning
>>66388016
Pretty much this. I could see Kimi working, and knowing how to race with bumpers and fenders without being a dipshit like Villeneuve was, but I don't see Hamilton ever getting the program.
>yfw when a woman has actually won a race in American "top level racing"
>>66388107
a
fucking
leaf
>>66387977
Should have rolled with more hp's and con.
>>66388016
>cries over the radio "HE TRIED TO PUSH ME OFF THE TRACK!!!!"
read that in his voice
>>66387977
>Reading the children's version of the book
I'll spoil it for all of you, the Romans killed him knowing he was patient 0 and yet he still came back as a zombie.
>>66388107
Her, and her team, were in the right place at the right time.
That's racing sometimes.
>>66387041
>Scott Speed
Great name for a racing driver, shame he was proper shit.
>A question to Mark: do you have any suggestion to Daniel in order to manage the relationship with Sebasitian...maybe the kKnife of Crocodile Dundee?
>>66388438
I know I'm just having a laff
>>66388564
thank mr skeltal
>>66388556
the Red Bull team USA scholarship driver search thing was a sham, Patrick Long and Joey Hand were in a league of their own in all the tests, but for some reason Speed was pushed through to be the recipient of the contract. If I recall correctly part of the problem was that the contract was essentially a 5 year slavery agreement, so guys like Long and Hand dropped out intentionally.
what other motorsports does /f1/ watch?
>>66389257
None. I had been into MotoGP for the last 16 years, but I dropped it once and for all after Philip Island last year once I realized that I simply couldn't get myself to care about it at all.
I'd like to try and give other motorsports a shot, but watching anything other than open-wheelers feels like a chore.
>>66389257
V8 Supercars and WEC.
>>66389257
whatevers on tv desu
>>66389257
Motogp, started this year.
Nothing else cause it's not on tv and I can't be bothered to watch shitty streams.
>>66389257
Indycar, bit of Formula E sometimes if I remember. Always watch Le Mans as well.
>>66389428
Any advice for someone looking to finally watch Le Mans seriously this year and potentially get into WEC?
>>66389257
motogp, wec, wrc, v8 supercars
>>66389446
le mans: keep the weekend open
wec: someone always posts a link to the official stream here.
>>66389257
Indycar and IMSA and a few of the other big endurance races. On occasion I go to the local dirt track when a 'big' sprintcar series is there
>>66389257
NASCAR, Indy, and now the Formula E series and I try to catch the Aussie V8 races when i can.
This is the earliest thing I remember about Monaco.
>>66389631
olivier panis' win for me. mad race that was.
this sport will be dead in 5-10 years
>>66389673
we know
>>66389673
2019 tbhfam
>>66389673
It will never die. We will still have F1 in 2099.
>tfw Bernie is still in charge via a hologram
>>66389673
Only in our souls.
>>66389673
it died years ago
>>66389257
F1, Irish Road Racing, BTCC, NASCAR, Pirrili World Challenge
F1 is my fav I make an effort to catch above mentions but will watch most Motorsports especially big races like Le Mans and Bathurst
>>66389257
WEC, Formula E and Super GT. I'll watch B/WRC, BTCC and IMSA if they're on too.
Going to WEC Silverstone this year plus the Masters Historic Festival. Better not bloody piss it down again.
>>66389257
Getting real into Indycar, despite their best efforts.
Somewhat non-shitposting question... was last week the first time a Manor passed someone under 'normal' race conditions?
>>66390310
Bianchi at Monaco probably passed someone under regular conditions.
>>66391417
>Bianchi
;_;
>>66391417
Marussia were faster than Caterham 75% of the time in 2014 so it doesn't count
>>66391603
>75%
You mean less than 25%. Sure, Marussia had a better overall lineup by sole virtue of having Bianchi, but while Caterham essentially fielded a modified 2013 car at the start of the season, they upgraded it pretty quickly (Spain).
>>66390310
Rossi passed Hamilton at Singapore 2015
to be fair Hamilton had an engine problem so i don't know if you want to call that "normal" race conditions
>>66390310
Stevens and Merhi/Rossi passed eachother a lot last year
>4 qualifying sessions
>average of fastest lap from each session determines grid
>No elimination, all cars out for all sessions
Y/N?
>>66393818
What happens if multiple drivers set different lap times in each session but have the same average?
>>66393858
Use fastest overall lap for tiebreakers.
>>66393818
>Average laps
We had that. It's fucking shit.
>>66393893
reduce it to 3 sessions (to neatly fit 3 15 minute sessions together) and I'm all for it, much better than the elimination bullshit
>>66394000
czeched la
>>66394000
I've only been following F1 for a couple years.
Was it an average of all laps, or only average of fastest laps?
>>66394063
iirc there was one session on Saturday with low-fuel, and a second on Sunday with race fuel, and the driver's fastest lap in each session was averaged
>>66394063
Average of single lap runs across two sessions (Saturday and Sunday). Saturday was low fuel where as Sunday you had the fuel you would start the race with.
It lasted for like the first 5 races in 2005 before they replaced it.
>>66394140
I think they just added the two laps together.
But the result is the same as using the average. Its not good, it has to be a single lap.
>>66394140
How long were the sessions?
It seems like it would be more interesting with many sessions, perhaps 4 or even 5, of around 10 minutes.
Each team has to try to set a good lap every session, and you don't have the fastest teams slacking off like they do now in Q1, and Q2.
>>66394302
They were single lap run session so yours is marginally better I guess
What is the point of Manor? What do they gain by being in F1? Do they even turn a profit?
Ok, so: new qualifying format:
Q1:
Random seedings, two cars on the track, rolling start a-la v8 supercars, one lap, first past the post goes through to Q2.
Q2:
Same thing.
Q3:
Multiball!!!!
>>66395675
nah, new qualy is a knockout tournament of the drivers playing Chicken
Why don't they make it kind of like a battle royale system where you have to knock out the other drivers through any means necessary?
They could bring Maldonado back as the track boss who intervenes at random times.
>>66380534
Honestly this.
Reverse the order of the top 8 but give points to whoever qualified first, second, third, fourth, fifth. Like 10 7, 5, 3, 2, 1 respectively.
>no reply for almost 3 hours
dead sport
another season of lolhamiltonwins
>>66398860
>"sport"
>>66399024
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>66399010
But he hasn't won a single race yet.
>Baku GP is actually happening
>>66399046
merc is sandbagging
>>66398860
love that filename
>>66399057
My only grievance is that its called the European Grand Prix. But it could be pretty dope, i.e. a huge clusterfuck with massive crashes thanks to Mad Amx
>>66387286
Isn't NASCAR all about being fan-friendy? I can only imagine Kimi being called arrogant by Reid or Tyler on twitter because he didn't want to put off his sunglasses.
>>66399057
>it's in a country that's at war
>it's in a country that's in the most dangerous political region in the world
What can go wrong?
>>66399735
hamilton gets kidnapped and killed?
>>66399735
Worst Korea is also at war, but they still had the GP
>>66400075
I said wrong, not right.
>>66400383
bahrain too. fuck cucku - watching le mans tbhfam.
POST YOU'RE OC !!!
>>66400611
And my masterpiece
>>66400961
this one is lame
>>66400970
so is this
>>66399075
Rosberg won tho
>>66401038
I did the head tho
>>66401043
>>66401061
uwot
>>66401051
>i've seen some shit
>>66401072
no idea where the original is
>>66401081
you just finished the hand
I did the head but I fucked up the hands so someone ( I presume you) finished it properly
>>66400611
My only contribution of note
>>66400611
I'm OC.
didn't even save the susie wolff / alonso sunbathing thing i made before fuggg
>>66400611
i made the F1 wojaks
>>66401131
that reminds me i've got to make a new one for Manor, Renault and Haas
>>66401128
do we still not have source on that grill?
>>66401144
nope, we also don't have a source on the Haas qt
why did I do this lol
>>66401111
absolutely shit
nice quads tho
>>66401000
>Bailey Jay
should be Grosjean
>>66401128
this one?
>>66401240
>>66401000
>>66401283
yeaaa
>>66401225
>shit
how apt.
>>66401283
thanks
>>66400458
well it'll go wrong for hamilton. rip.
this just in
Ohcee
>>66401562
lel
I have one of these too
>>66401602
not funny. you went over the line
>>66389257
Been watching MotoGP since i was young. They didn't show it live on tv until Kallio got into MotoGP, so i got really hyped in 08. That then fizzeled like my interest.
Le Mans is pretty big here. I'll watch as many hours of it as humanly possible.
FE seems pretty exciting. They've started showing Indy and Nascar, but i think it's too memey. Also kind of lost interest in GP2 and Formula renault
>>66389257
I regularly watch MotoGP, and Formula E (if that counts), and like to follow Nascar and Indycar casually, but with interest in the championships.
Apart from these, if there's any motorsports on the telly, I watch it, even if I have no idea of the field or series.
>>66395165
Feeder team.
There's really 4 levels of F1.
Championship teams:
Ferrari, red bull, Mercedes
Ex-championship teams:
Williams, McLaren, Renault
Midfield feeders:
Sauber, Force India
New team feeders:
Manor, Haas
It is possible to move up groups and slide down. Sauber sank to 'new team' rank in '14 for getting 0 points. McLaren sank from the championship in '13 when Hamilton left and too engineers with him, thus rising Mercedes from midfield to championship.
>>66384196
Senna barely even won in Brazil either...
Who /Haas/ here
>>66389257
24 Hours of Le Mans/Spa
NASCAR during road course weekends
Indy 500
Blancpain Endurance Series
i bet mad max loses his seat before next season
>>66404516
Get your hand off Hamilton's cock you fucking munter.
Mercedes' rise started with Brawn buying Honda.
Is there a private tracker for F1?
>>66405117
racingfor.me but piranha.excom.us is open reg and pretty much just as good.
>>66405187
Cool, thanks.
>>66404516
>when Hamilton left and too engineers with him,
He literally only 'took' Paddy Lowe, who also came a year after (I.e. In 2014). All of Merc's current success is down to Brawn having insider info on the 2014 technical specs (both engine and otherwise) before they were officially ratified (This was confirmed by Shekelstone last year).
He then spent 2011-13 in assembling a number of former technical directors to run the development of each department, with a clear focus on 2014. Hamilton has almost nothing to do with MWL
>>66404922
bit early to judge, maybe he'll start doing destruction derby instead with maldonado
>>66405287
>All of Merc's current success is down to Brawn having insider info on the 2014 technical specs
Implying nothing has changed in 2 years. Theorizing too much T. Ganesan.
>>66405473
The engine formula is identical to the original, which is where the majority of the advantage lies, as is the aero, apart from insignificant cosmetic changes to get rid of the dick noses.
The current cars are a clear evolution of 2014-spec, which were developed under Aldo Costa (still chief designer, and hired in late 2011/early 2013), with departmental oversight from Geoff Willis and Bob Bell, both also hired by Brawn in the same period.
The engine was developed in a joint effort between Mercedes AMG in Stuttgart and Brixworth under Andy Cowell, who works directly for Merc, producing their F1 engines since 2005, and focused on hybrids since 2009.
Literally none of the influence of MWL is down to Hamlelton or any mythical engineers he brought over from McLaren.
Also, source on Ross Brawn having inside info on technical specs for engine: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/mercedes-f1-engine-dominance-puts-off-new-teams-claims-bernie-ecclestone-10506861.html
is Haas running '15 or '16 Ferrari engines?
>>66405738
2016. toro rosso have the 2015 one.
>>66405738
'16 spec. Only Toro Rosso running older spec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3yrxrcxTUc
>when you realize you left the oven on
>>66403019
Dirt 2 is real?
>>66405936
kek
>>66405936
ran out of brakes?
>>66407879
No, his gf called and said her parents were out for the next hour
>>66405936
Why not just jam it on a gear?
reminder
>>66409618
Will 2016 be a good year for memes?
>>66400611
No offense but that would have better with LuLu since he's #blessed
>>66380994
Sup duder
If only it had been called Car Bombcast
>>66409618
>tfw three of my images made it in
Does anyone have a screenshot of when the Ferrari Team Principal was screaming when Vettel slipped past LolMercedes?
should i spend £400 on a ticket for the monaco GP
>>66413031
wouldn't that be the worst race to go and see?
>>66400623
That actually hit me in the feels.
Ex Mercedes Petronas employee here (2011-2015)
Ask anything.
>>66413323
is toto a cuck?
>>66413323
are the drivers actual members of the team or do they fuck off as much as possible?
>>66413323
Which kinds of questions would you be particularly well-equipped to answer? And any idea how the team in general feels about its drivers right now, particularly Hamilton?
Holy shit. Didn't realize that Formula1.com has gotten the rights to SKY commentary. That's a monumental get. That's the missing piece to a full in-house production or possibly some streaming services.
>>66413491
I was in charge of garage and hospitality co-ordination, and on race days looking after the 'Ultra high net-worth VIP's'. So anything related to team operations and management, electrical also.
>>66413472
Lewis chilled out in his room in the truck/complex in his down time. Nico would spend a majority of his talknig to engineers. Both are pleasant, geuinely nice guys.
>>66413420
He's too laid back.
So probably yes.
>>66401141
Pls make a Haas one
>tfw bought a Haas F1 Team shirt
It feels good to be repping America again ;_;
MAKE F1 GREAT AGAIN!
>>66413116
don't know
want to go to the singapore one but i have a friend there who says that's shit
>>66413323
What was your job and why did you leave?
>>66413575
well sky sports have exclusive uk rights from 2019-2024 - £100 million a year. fom won't piss off sky - we'll never get an online f1 network.
>>66413323
Any memorable moments you could share from your time with the team?
>>66414016
>£100 mil a year
A bit more than that. They paid around 1 billion for the 6 years. Mental idiots.
Please protect me, I'm getting bullied by the whole board because of some stupid football match
>>66414107
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. fuck that. i'm not giving money to that annoying fat cunt croft, cucklazenby and so on.
i wish bt won tbhfam
>>66414163
is it Eng v Deu?
>>66414107
Isn't that the kind of money with which you could create an F1 team of your own?
>>66414195
Yes
They're threatening to tie me up
>>66414163
THERE WERE 10 GERMAN FUCKBOYS IN THE AIR
>>66414238
CHAT
H
A
T
SHIT
H
I
T
>>66414178
not a fan of crofty and manlet lazenby either 2bh
i do like ted and brundle though and senna jr provides good insight when they have him on
>>66414238
kek
just dont be a dumb anime poster like that other crazy german
>>66414277
They're the same guy you retard.
Stop replying to the autist for fuck's sake.
>>66414238
CHAT SHIT GET BULLIED
>>66414238
>German fuccbois
>>66414276
ted can be a bit annoying. damon hill is bland as fuck, and herbert is a chav.
>>66414178
They went and bid massively early on to make sure they would get exclusivity.
They couldn't afford a situation where the coverage is split between them and BT
OFFICIAL SKY SPORTS PRESENTER TIERS
>Austist Tier
Ted
>Based Tier
Brundle, Pinkham
>Bretty Gud Tier
Ant, Senna
>Fine, I Guess Tier
Hill, Herbert, PDR
>Absolutely Disgusting Tier
Lazenby, Crofty
>>66414332
>>66414309
>>66414277
>>66414275
>>66414270
This has to stop
>>66414004
See my post above my friend.
I left because we'd won the titles twice. I originally said I'd stay until we won the world championship but then they made an offer for one ore year so I stayed on. Ticked those boxes so wanted to move on.
>>66414033
Well the tension between the sides of the garages was way worse than the media even got a sniff of. The management did a fantastic job of keeping a lid on it. I can only recall one time both sides of the garage worked together in those 2 years.
The years with Schumi were much more fun, everyone knew we were working towards the new rule changes and building for the future, so everyone was more laid back. There was numerous times when a few of us would go for a drink with a driver, mainly Lewis.
>>66405936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bx20cflBBk
It fits quite well
>>66414442
>Pinkham
u wot
all she does is generic interviews, and she never looks people in the eyes. she's always staring past their shoulder.
>>66414466
holy shit, its almost exactly the same scene as the cop car scene
>>66414472
She pretty hot tho
>>66414453
How was Schumi to work with?
>>66414016
>fom won't piss off sky - we'll never get an online f1 network.
there is currently far more money in getting broadcasters worldwide to bid exorbitant amounts for local broadcast rights than to run online streaming services and collect from the fans.
>>66414442
>based
Brundle
>breddy gud but autistic
Ted, Hill
>fuck off
All the rest
>>66414550
He was big on vegetables
>>66414693
m8 ;_;
>>66414741
What?
>>66414453
What's the best country you've visited?
>>66414973
India had the best smell.
>>66414453
Did Roscoe shit all over the floor at HQ?
Did Nico ever take Nico Mana away for some quite 1-on-1 time (pls just lie and say yes)?
>Foxtel coverage runs ads during the race now
For what purpose would you run ads on a subscription television on a channel that requires even more money to access?
>>66415159
[Shekel sounds intensify]
>>66379516
Ironic coming from an American
>>66415159
seriously? i was at the race so i didn't watch it live.
was it just during the red flag period?
>>66414550
Well from an engineering and team perspective, he knew what he wanted, and if he got it he was happy, if he didnt think he was getting it he'd just work and work and work to fix it. That is someone that EVERY race team wants to have as their driver. Everyone liked him.
>>66414973
UAE or Bahrain.
The parties there are fantastic, and the team booked a villa per 2 team members, complete with a pool and everything. Not that we ever used it as we were always busy.
>>66415095
Those 2 dogs are the laziest dogs in the world, they'd always just try and sleep under any desk they could find in any room. If you stroke one, the other gets insanely jealous and comes over for attention, it's quite funny.
But no they didnt shit everywhere.
>>66415354
I'm taking your silence on Mana as confirmation they fucked for hours
Thanks
>>66415159
WHO COULD BE BEHIND THIS OUTRAGE!?
>>66415159
It only happens when ten also has the race.
>>66413811
USA!!!
USA!!!
USA!!!
>>66415596
Good enough.
>>66413811
I really want to cop a rain jacket from them, but I dont want to fork out 192USD, shit sucks
>>66413945
I was there in 10'. Entertainment was ok, atmosphere was shit. A lot of quiet Asian, some loud aussies and smelly arabs.
>>66413323
post proofs
>>66414555
I dont know the terms of the contract, but all of the American sports have worldwide streaming services regardless of whether the country has an exclusive right holder. It would be a good way to reach out to viewers who aren't willing to pay some of these outrageous pay channels.
>>66409618
What's the story behind scary face amd amx?
>>66415840
i think it has to be set out like that at the outset though. those sports are willing to go to the length of offering apps on apple tv to provide content and make subscriptions easy for the customer.
some of the european leagues, i.e. english premier league and european champions league, don't do this and leave fans jumping from cable provider to cable provider, or streaming service to streaming service, to see content.
i currently pay for the streaming version of the local cable service to watch f1. some of the rights restrictions around one of the australian sports available on that same service are hilarious.
>>66404922
I bet mad max wins his first championship before Haas gets a better finish than 5th.
>>66417314
it would be awesome if he did that for Haas
>>66417314
>implying haas won't win
their car is so physically repulsive it disorientates everyone near it
>>66417449
wish it was corny like that
>>66389257
NHRA - though fuel racing on tv is the opposite of Formula 1. While television makes F1 appear dramatically more exciting than it is at the track, watching nitro on tv is like watching porn gifs compared to actual sex.
Rest of the list:
Endurance
Indycar
NASCAR
Off-road
>>66417637
>actual sex
>>66417637
Hey don't slag off porn gifs
>>66415596
Fucking kek nice m8
>tfw not fat
>>66415645
Could be worse, also want one but since my dollar is still dogshit it'll be like $240 for me. So... Nah.
>>66418214
No, no, I wasn't slagging off porn gifs! Only saying Fuel is that much better!
>>66389257
Anybody got a feed for Super Formula? been wanting to watch it for some time.
>>66415325
No it was during the entire race. There was an ad break when the crash happened and they had to cut it short because of it.
>>66415535
I didn't notice it last year.
>>66415159
>For what purpose would you run ads
Because it's more entertaining than the race
that's why
>>66378506
post your theories on why mercedes is so fast
>>66422240
Toto's chastity belt came with regulation loopholes in the instructions
>>66422240
Rosberg and Lewis are just really good drivers.
>>66400611
we still posting OC?
>>66422240
good engine and good aero
>>66422240
powered by meams
>>66422240
Paddy Lowe is a /lifelong/ Lesta supporter
>>66422282
why not
>>66422429
Does an unedited image like that count as OC though?
Race edit in now Director's cut:
http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/video/2016/3/Director's_Cut__Australia_2016_.html
>>66422240
German engineering.
>>66422528
>ladies and gentlemen welcome to the stage, this is janiel ricciardo
>janiel
can will buxton pronounce anything right?
>>66422528
this is terrible
Caption this
>>66415159
anti competition laws
>>66422468
that post was just an excuse to post that image t.b.h
>>66422791
vai vai vai
>>66422791
mama mia, all these years of smoking crisp, refreshing MARLBORO® cigarettes has turned my teeth as yellow as that damn Renault in front of my dear Kimi!
>>66422877
nice Waltteri dubs
>>66422240
3 more years preparing for the regulations
as well as fantastic designers, researchers and finance
>>66414442
Let's be honest, they're all pretty unbearable apart from Brundle and maybe Ted
2 hours until the race?
>>66423180
Wait a week, Max.
>>66423180
you moved your clock the wrong way la
race just started
big crash for danny ric at turn 1
>>66423208
>>66423220
it's next week isn't it...
Anyone know where I can find decent quality VODs of past Super Formula races?
>>66423323
http://racing4everyone.eu/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXdUsMh5rkS8xHmLluT8IMw
>>66423359
Thanks anon.
>>66423359
>>66423323
What are some classic quintessential Super Formula races to watch?
Best, craziest races etc.
Might start following Super Formula just to see more of based Lotterer and Kobayashi and see how much Vandoorne chokes
Funny how the Super Formula cars are only a few seconds slower than F1 despite having much much smaller budgets and less complex engines etc. F1 is just fantastic I hope they make the cars even heavier and even more reliant on energy recovery and neuter the engine completely and make it100% aero reliant
>>66423383
You're welcome
>>66423481
Any time Pablo
>>66423359
>Narain Karthikeyan
>p10 in driver standings
what a shitty series
Super Formula should have a round at Spa just so Lotterer can get pole by 10 seconds
>>66422240
They are spending the most money on everything. There's your answer.
>>66423450
I might start following Formula Nippon next month too to see Vandoorne get stoffeled.
>OTS is Super Formula’s version of DRS, increasing fuel supply temporarily to provide a 5 per cent boost in engine performance.
Are there better wheel to wheel battle than in f1?
>>66422528
Wow, they managed to make it look interesting. If halfway through the season Mercedes will have lost just one race - I'll stop watching the actual races and just watch this instead.
>>66423746
Come on lad it wasn't a bad race. Actually better than anything in 2015 aside from the meme-spectacles
>plenty of memes
>change of leader more than once
>semi-unexpected turn of events
>mad amx mad
solid 7/10 race
>>66424549
IMO it wasn't as good as Bahrain/Silverstone/US GPs last year and they weren't really memefests
No denying it was miles better than the majority of the races we had in 2015 though, if the other 20 GPs this year are as good I'll be happy
Was Fuji a good track for F1? I don't remember any of the races from it
>>66423725
>single-manufacturer open wheel racing
>>66424578
Yeah Bahrain was a good race I agree. Silverstone was a borderline meme-fest with the Williams and rain and all
I wouldn't be surprised if F1 went back to being boring shit next weekend though and this season might turn out to be just as bad as 2015 once the teams figure out how to optimize their performance after which each team is going to be lapping in their own bracket, not directly challenged or challenging anyone aside from maybe their teammate which they can't do anyway because it destroys their tires.
>>66424614
except it has multiple engine manufacturers :^)
>>66424614
>Engine suppliers: Toyota, Honda
(unsurprisingly Honda got BTFO in Super Formula in 2015 as well apparently)
>>66381320
oh boy... there goes my easter weekend
>>66424589
It was good but because rain
>Massa and Hamilton killing each other
>Vettel trolling ¿Webber? behind the safety car
>Massa spending half the day spinning around
Nowadays it wouldn't be celebrated at all cause rain and Bianchi etc
>Haas in charge of not making their car look like 2011's Hormone Replacement Therapy Racing
>>66424736
the HRT looks more like an American stereotype of F1 though
>>66424736
Haas is like a combination of the grey Sauber and HRT
hopefully in performance as well
jk the grey Sauber era was actually bretty good for a few years with Perez and Kobayashi
>Sergio Perez is only 1 (one) year older than Formula 1 rookie and GP2 champion Jolyon Palmer
>making your F1 debut at age 25
>>66424578
COTA was a memefest though.
>>66424881
Stoffel "The Stoff" "Hakkinen Jr" "Next Wurl Champyun guys trust me" "Nick Heidfeld" Vandoorne will be 26 by the time Ron allows him to make his F1 debut
meanwhile Magnussen is 6 months younger than Vandoorne
>>66424932
>implying Ron won't make a last minute decision to retain Button, leaving Vandoorne to drive another season of Super Formula
>Mad Max will have 7 (seven) seasons worth of F1 experience by the time he is the age that Vandoorne is going to be debuting in F1 in
>>66424985
button and alonso could, in theory, both drive for mclaren for 3 more years.
>>66424985
>>66425017
Jenson will retire at the end of this year to spend more time with his Playboy model gf (while cheating on her with Jessica) and Nando will continue on until he's 40
Meanwhile, Ron will replace JB with Are Nige, who wants to put Schumi's "comeback" to shame and show him how you *really* come out of retirement
and Nige will win the championship 3 years in a row
>>66425170
button has said several times he i is looking forward to the 2017 regs. if the car is good then, why quit at the season's end?
Son of Eric tested for Brawn GP ???? http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/224563/ericsson-hails-great-experience-with-brawn-gp/
What the flying fuck?
He has this much F1 experience and is still so overwhelmingly shit?????
>>66425017
I can see that happening. Both are still performing very well despite being past their prime most likely. If the performance of the car improves to where it should be, then I don't see why either driver would want to leave. Mansell won his title at what, 42? I'm sure Button and Alonso who basically live and breathe fitness and racing can remain competitive into their 40's even.
Vandoorne is a hopeful. He might be shit in F1, who knows. And I don't see why it is that great of a choice to drop Mr. Consistency Jenson Button for Vandoorne who is either going to be another Perez/Magnussen, or become the next Hamilton and ditch the team as soon as there is a better opportunity. McLaren don't really "need" Vandoorne. They already have a strong lineup and even though they are old, I'm sure that Alonso could still comfortably challenge for wins and titles if he gets a good car under him. McLaren employs two World Champions who also happen to be the most experienced drivers on the grid. Vandoorne offers nothing to McLaren that they don't already have, except maybe youth.
The only way I see Vandoorne getting the McLaren drive in the next few years is by either Button/Alonso choosing to retire, or Alonso ragequitting the team (and retiring or joining Renault)
>>66425227
>J.R. Hildebrand tested for Force India F1
ooooo
>>66425254
that's how i feel. button and alonso are exceptionally fit, and neither are slow. vandoorne can fuck off.
>>66424700
wasnt that the race webber spent throwing up in his car after eating some bad shellfish sandwiches
>>66399057
>not posting the edit
>>66381320
>tfw the internet killed Season Review videos like this because now you can get all the clips and races on-demand
they were still super comfy though
Herro.
>>66425721
only Nip with a 12 inch dick 2bh
just ask Sasha Grey
>>66422240
they can afford to hire the best in the business
>a week to race
WHY CAN'T WE HAVE F1 EVERY WEEK?
MY LIFE HAS NO MEANING WITHOUT F1
>>66425721
It's good to see that Toyota stayed loyal to him. Man what could have been
About to watch the first MotoGP race of the season.. is it worth it?
>>66425867
Just watch it already you fuck.
Yeah, it's fun.
>>66425867
why so edgy Greece?
>>66425867
Give it a shot, but don't expect it to be anything more than a very shallow version of F1.
>>66425829
becoz the circuits can't PAY THE FUCKING DENBTS so we're only left with the 21 that are rich enough to bail each other out
SOUND FAMILIAR?
>>66425867
MotoGP is literally F1 on two wheels.
Honda a best, Yamaha a shit
>>66425906
Why so hostile towards bike racing, Romaniabro? For me, MotoGP is the best of the bunch when it comes to actual racing. There are varying riding styles across the field, basically no gimmicks and some fucking legends racing each other on some baller tracks. And Moto3 and Moto2 that come with the package are basically Spaghetti Calamities: the racing series, with a tight field.
>>66425977
>cleary doesn't watch MotoGP
The only thing I don't like about motogp is that it seems they don't show anything below p5. Yeah, the race for the top is close but there are interesting things happening everywhere and they don't show them.
>>66426065
t. Valentino Rossi fan
>>66425867
Pretty disappointing tbhfam
>>66378506
>bongs
bongs=hours
bings=minutes
so what are days and seconds? noon and midnight?
>>66423725
any VLC/acestream links for this?
>>66422528
Fucking terrible. They want to make F1 cars louder and then they go and put music all over the video.
>>66427237
bangs
for both
>>66423725
So why do the F1 rejects go to FE over this??
>>66427291
more worldwide exposure, plus FE is Anglosphere-centric rather than exclusive to Japan
this past week has felt like two
>>66427391
2bh same
>>66427391
get your local hospital to induce you into a coma next time
>>66427445
sounds like the plan for me
post GOAT F1 cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMXBXHm7nQA
I miss this version of the nigger
>>66427810
I actually quite liked Hamilton when he was at McLaren, aside from the constant whining. He actually seemed to have some sort of pretense of humbleness back then and seemed much more normal and chilled.
Ever since he moved to Mercedes he went full NIGGA and his ego never stopped rising.
>>66427849
Bennis was probably paying him nothing. Hamilton contract with McLaren was done from before everyone was going to be a champion.
When he switched to Mercedes he was already considered one of the best drivers so he probably got a huge pay bonus and things started to change.
>>66428079
>everyone knew that he**
fixd
>>66427810
I miss happy jense too
>>66428192
But passive-agressive sarcastic Jensen is pretty good too.
anyone here going to the Jenson Button Triathlon ?
It seems quite fun
>chilton gone
>maldonado gone
who is going to be our meme backmarker this season lads?
>>66429003
haryanto
>>66429003
Honestly the sport feels like it's lost a lot in terms of characters after those two left. There's nothing quite like a likable slow driver, whether they're slow because of the car or because of themselves.
>>66429003
Son of Yorick
>>66429003
Niki Lauda
>>66429003
both Williams drivers
>>66429003
german hamilton.
>>66429003
the Finish drives
Besides being Mercedes' Chosen One (TM) and hailing from DTM of all the places, what do people have against Wehrlein? The kid doesn't seem all that bad - his start in Australia was excellent for someone in his first ever race, and outside of two specific laps just before the red flag he was much faster than Haryanto while only losing pace to the others due to (according to him at least) Manor's extremely high tyre wear. His personality doesn't seem too bad either.
>>66429003
Alonso.
>>66429003
alonso
>>66429349
Hamilton jr
honestly he's a good driver who'll have a Rosberg/Bottas-esque future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvOmFFu830Q
>>66422572
>>66422572
>>66422572
new thread
>>66430503
kek
>>66430503
Based Mika.
VERY dead general
page 4 bump
where are all the dank memes?
>>66431840
>very dead
like hamilton will be soon.
:^)
>>66432320
god emperor decided to crucify them to commemorate easter
>>66432350
t.murderlonso
>>66431840
very dead "sport" tbqhwy
>>66432480
it will be mad max, who also dies in the collision.
Whats Maldonado up to these days?
>>66432570
brazil is collapsing. he's no longer sponsored by petrobas
>>66432741
>Maldonado
>Brazilian
>petrobas
What?
>>66432772
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
>>66432570
Probably no where seeing how his main backer is out. He might have some outings in sports cars though.
His cousin is doing Italian f4 i think this year. Might see him in a few other open wheelers in the coming years.
>>66423450
>Super Formula cars only a few seconds slower than F1 cars
>Super GT cars only 1 second slower than an LMP1 car around Fuji
>Both series have qt Nippon grid girls
Japanese racing is best racing.
>>66427260
That is the whole point of race edits.
https://vimeo.com/46870680
https://vimeo.com/12305622
https://vimeo.com/59976133
>tfw they now use free music instead of anything even half decent.
I think I accidentally got a photo of side by side f1 cars and an argument together lol
>>66434035
Dude probably misses the sound of V10s and V12s drowning out her nagging.
>>66434075
>I never got to hear a full field of v10s in a race
why live
Is max taking over where maldonado left off?
>>66434614
I don't remember Maldonado being a bitch on the radio.
>>66434035
Would have been a great picture without the couple
Remember people saying Williams was going to challenge for a win in Australia? kek
WHO /@/ HERE
>>66435222
Is that meant to be a girl Gimi?
>>66405718
OK Dost. I agree with your theory of Hamilton not being responsible. I never said he was.
But i refuse to accept your theory of Ross Brawn fucking everything up for F1.
Kindly allow me to show off now.
Caution: I am talking on the surface level (I am just a mid-tier fan)
Mercedes' customer teams did not get the max. output from the 2014 engine because of homologation dates. So teams like Red Bull and Force Bharath could not capitalize on it by incorporating it in their designs. Mercedes moved their gearbox forward because of the compressor being moved away from the turbine, and thus changed the center of gravity and hence the handling of the car, as I'm sure you may know.
But now Merc's customer teams can, and have, exactly the same engine, so all I am saying is there is more to it than one man Ross Brawn. That may have been a head-start as you have suggested (still sounds like puffery to me) but that was 2014. Two seasons later and nothing has changed. It's still HamRosVet.
>inb4 you said earlier things have changed
As for the AERO changes,
like i said earlier, because of the COMPRESSOR-TURBINE split, the INTERCOOLER was smaller and hence smaller side pods and a world beater car.
>>66435883
>Mercedes' customer teams did not get the max. output from the 2014 engine because of homologation dates.
mercedes' customer teams get a weaker engine spec..
> So teams like Red Bull and Force Bharath could not capitalize on it by incorporating it in their designs.
but red bull doesn't run a mercedes power unit.
> Mercedes moved their gearbox forward because of the compressor being moved away from the turbine
if anything it's moved slightly backwards because the gearbox is encased in another structural unit so that it can be changed because of damage or for aerodynamic reasons without incurring a gearbox penalty.
>>66435883
M8, the point you're missing is that every bit of advantage that Merc has due to the engine, whether it be due to higher power, or better packaging, CoG, heat harvesting etc. is because Merc had a year's head start in developing the engine in terms of power, performance, as well as packaging.
That head start, is due to Ross Brawn being on the working group that was discussing the new engine spec.
>Two seasons later and nothing has changed. It's still HamRosVet.
This is because engine development is largely frozen, and the allowed developments are not too major.
It may still be HamRosVet, but Vet is closer this year (it appears) than he was last year, and much much closer than Alonso was in 2014. The scale of improvement is unfortunately limited by the development cap on engines.
>so all I am saying is there is more to it than one man Ross Brawn
I've addressed that - The aero chief (Aldo Costa) was hired by Brawn in late 2011, after being unceremoniously dumped by Ferrari.
You may argue that that's a management move that anyone could make, but you also have to keep in mind that Brawn had groomed Costa for over 6 years at Ferrari in the SchumiWinsLol era, to take over as TD. Aldo Costa is definitely a Ross Brawn man.
Technical Director Bob Bell and Technology Director Geoff Willis, though not Brawn men to the degree of Costa, were nevertheless hired by Brawn in 2011, all with a clear plan towards the 2014-onward spec of cars.
>As for the AERO changes, like i said earlier, because of the COMPRESSOR-TURBINE split, the INTERCOOLER was smaller and hence smaller side pods and a world beater car.
And what gave them the ability to have that split? Merc was the only one who managed to eliminate the resonant harmonics that were making the split turbo unstable by 2014. It took Ferrari an additional year, and Renault still hasn't got it.
All that is down to the extra development time Merc was able to put down, starting their R&D in 2011 thanks to Brawn.
>>66388107
and all it took was half the field not even being there, a decent amount of cars already being DNF'd from the race, and her crew/team managing the best pit-stop/fuel strategy!
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>>66435135
This sport is not for faggots. Fuck off
>>66436641
gibe moni pls
>>66436641
why would faggots like cute girls? how strange your post is
>>66436641
Pretty rich coming from the shemale country
>Bruno Senna hits a dog with his car
>kills the dog,possibly
>does not leave debris on the track
>SAFETY CAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTXI5GuqTR4
someone make a new thread
>>66437692
>possibly
88 the dog died instantly and there was a second running around so they called a safety car
>>66437733
I don't even know
How did this happen ?
Weren't they scared of the car's sounds ? Didn't the dog saw Bruno's coming ?
>>66437778
>>66437778
>>66437778
new bread
off by one:(
>>66436069
>but red bull doesn't run a mercedes power unit.
My bad. I meant to say Williams(I think!). Thanks for the correction.
>mercedes' customer teams get a weaker engine spec..
They had some issues in 2015 but now Williams, Force India and new Mercedes runner Manor Racing will get the up-to-date engine from the outset in 2016. Exactly the same (autosport.com)
>if anything it's moved slightly backwards
Pretty sure it's moved forward. In any case, i was trying to get the discussion move towards specifics.
>>66436395
Look, to me as a fan, you make it sound more complicated than it actually is. I refuse to believe Ferrari can't "think ahead" like Ross Brawn's super-magical prowess. There's a million more variables and only a matter of time before the others catch up. It can not and should not be due to one man. It's self-defeatist to think in a reductive manner like your keen observation of personnel tactics implies.
I've been watching this red bull global rallycross thing and I have no idea what to make of it. Pretty much every aspect of it is something I can't decide whether I like or not.
>racecars based on hot hatches
>lots of contact
>shortcut lap in lieu of pitting/tyre strategy
>cars getting trashed
>occasional names I recognise from f1
>british guy doing commentary for american things
I could probably get into it if it wasn't for the xtreme sports energy drinks aesthetic.
>>66413323
Does Niki Lauda smell?
Is he an asshole?
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