>OU is Big 12 Champ
>3 way tie between TCU, Baylor, Okie Lite for second place in Big 12
>Richt is out after another disappointing season
>Henry, Mayfield, McCaffery all have big games.
>ND booty blasted out of the playoff contention.
>LSU caves to peer pressure and decides to keep Miles
>>63883767
No, its shit like telling Cam Newton and D'shawn Watson (georgia natives) that if they came here they would have to play tight end because we don't like mobile QBs, and losing to TN, getting blown out by bama (not even putting up a fight) , going to overtime against ga southern.... doing that with all the stud recruits we get, that is shit tier coaching, nothing more. We get elite recruits solely based on our location and prestige, rich hasn't been able to accomplish shit with them. if winning 9 games a year is ok with you then fuck off.
>>63884268
Second for Nebraska is no longer a blueblood
>>63884315
UGA is going to get worse.
Bama. (11-1)
2. Oklahoma (11-1)
3. Iowa (12-0)
4. Clempson (Very insecure about their school and their ranking btw) (12-0)
5. Northwest Missouri St. (12-0)
6. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (10-1)
7. Harvard (9-1)
8. Slippery Rock (12-1)
9. Houston (11-1)
10. aOSU (11-1)
>>63884268
>Beating Mizzu by three
>Losing that badly to Flowduh
>Needing OT to beat Ga. Southern and barely getting by a super shitty GT team
>Hurrgia
>>63884315
>herp derp 9 win seasons
This is the problem with the SEC. Your fans beat their chest over a 9 win season even though you didn't' beat a single ranked team and lost to the only three good teams you played.
UL Monroe, Vanderbilt, Southern, South Carolina, Monroe, GA Southern, and Kentucky.
That's 7 automatic wins and people give a shit that he won 9 games. LOL no.
This team is trash and they're going to stay that way. Jacob Eason is a skinny lanklet that throws into triple coverage on half his plays.
>firing a coach after a nine win season
Hmmm sounds familiar. Wonder how it worked out for the last team that did this...
>>63884461
thank god
>>63884478
don't be mad that our coachless program got more wins than your team and is going to make a NY6 bowl and get to 10 wins, and then lure either Fisher or Saban to lead the Dawgs to the promised land of a Natty
>>63884472
The entire SEC East was embarrassing this year.
>>63884268
How the fuck do you lose to Tennessee?
>>63884461
We can't.
>SEC firing all of it's good coaches
it's like pottery
>>63884429
Stanford could still make it
They deserve it more than UNC would
If Clemson had a loss they wouldn't be in the conversation, so neither should UNC
>>63884572
Who? Pinkell? Richt?
>>63884562
Pretty sure Nebraska showed you can
Twice
>>63884528
this x1000.
If richt couldn't win the east this year he'll never be able to do it again. everyone else in the east is getting better. it was high time for a change.
>>63884615
We get much better recruits than Nebraska. If we had a decent coach we'd have 2 national championships because we would have had cam newton and deshown watson here too.
>The 2nd best team in the SEC is Ole Miss
>Ole Miss
And people say this is the strongest conference? Are they stupid?
>>63884562
I think Georgia fans are going to find out soon that it can get much worse than 9-3.
>>63884680
it's not like ole miss lost to a g5 team tho. and to be fair, florida got worse due to suspension.
>>63884619
That maybe true, but it's the wrong time to hire
>>63884656
Watson went to Clemson for Chad Morris and his spread offense
Plus he'd be out for the year
>>63884680
Literally the entire conference has been feeding off of Bama's success like a parasite. We've never seen this level of memeing throughout history.
>>63884680
All conferences suck this year.
It probably looks like
B1G
Big 12
SEC
Pac-12
ACC
and I go to an SEC school
If Saban doesn't win the national championship this year he's out.
Arkansas solely exists as a team to ruin other teams' seasons as opposed to actually winning their own, don't they?
YOU MAY ONLY REPLY TO THIS POST IF YOUR SCHOOL FIRED YOUR HEAD COACH AND YOUR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR TODAY
>>63884724
But Memphis is a g5 team and Florida didn't get worse. The entire SEC got worse
>>63884789
Here are mine.
PAC-12
B1G
ACC
Big 12
SEC
I thought about putting Big 12 last but I'll take their top 4 teams in a walk over the SEC's
>>63884799
God help the SEC if they ever actually show up to every game one season.
>>63884789
Even the big 12 is fully speculative. OU is a tier above Baylor/OSU/TCU, and those three are somewhere between like 8th and 25th in the country. We don't really know, because they scheduled special ed squads as appetizers in september.
I hope Dan Mullen leaves. Second year in a row that we were completely unready for the egg Bowl, despite being a similar or better team. He clearly can't win any big games and he never will. Down 21-0 in the first with 4 and 4, he kicks a field goal. He has given up on the team yet again. His play calling is so uninspired it is embarrassing. He can't recruit or coach an o line for shit and has mismanaged running backs unless an NFL quality one falls in his lap. The one bright spot is his QB development, but it is kind of hard to even be happy about that when he almost completely ruined Dak's senior season by mismanaging winnable games. Dan you clearly don't care anymore, you were laughing and smiling and talking about how this team proved people wrong after losing the Egg Bowl. Please leave, this isn't 2006 where we can't get any recruits (although you're partly to thank for that), watching that team all year I thought 8 wins was the floor and by god Dan you seemed excited to do as little as y'all could.
>>63884524
Except that I'm an OU fan and we just won our conference and are sitting pretty at 2 or 3 for a playoff spot.
Good luck on your coaching search King nothing, congratulations on your Stucky's bowl invite
>>63884884
yeah I was getting a bit tongue in cheek about the memphis bit, but I do think UF would have been much better if their quarterback didn't roid up.
>>63884913
OU = Bama, and I would take TCU/Baylor/OSU over whatever the top 3 SEC teams are.
>>63884902
>Pac-12
>1 team with fewer than 3 losses
>first
opinion discarded
>>63884990
I actually put OU above Bama, but i get what you're saying.
>>63884990
Top to bottom, the Pac-12 has been solid. The bottom of the conference is better than the bottom of the SEC or Big 12.
>>63884939
Who the hell do you think you're going to get better that State can actually convince to come?
So 15 openings
>>63884902
>PAC12 above B1G
I hope this is a fucking joke.
>>63884939
>MSU fan wants Mullen to leave
what virus is going around in the SEC that makes historically bad programs disappointed in their 9 win seasons?
>>63885122
i suppose you are going to try to say the best pac12 team played against the 5th best big 10 team and lost? UNLIKELY.
>>63885137
Cornhusker disease
>>63885137
SEC Media hype machine that makes every SEC team think because Bama is successful they and the whole conference are as well
>>63884985
It was j-just a protein shake....
I was getting so damned tired of Richts bullshit. After that georgia southern game where they barely won in overtime he got pissed off in a press conference because a couple people criticized the team, he pulled his classic "we won, what more can you ask for?!" shit. I want a coach like saban who will admit they played like shit and they won't let it happen again. anyone supporting richt were either casual georgia fans who don't watch half the games and only see our record at the end of the year, or non-georgia fans who don't watch our games, don't know who our recruits are, and just see our record at the end of the year.
>>63885216
The SEC is God's conference, shut your mouth you faggot.
>>63885122
After the top 4 in the Big 12, it's a sizable drop. The worst teams in the Pac12 are probably Oregon St. and Colorado and I would put those teams up against Kansas, IowaSt, and Kansas St.
>>63885047
Yeah but Vanderbilt has great academics and KU has basketball.
People forget that teams bring value to a conference outside of football. Okie Lite has a perennial shit football team but they have the GOAT wrestling program.
>>63885291
Your not even using the trip my man
>>63885192
I understand this one. They just fucked up hiring Riley of all people.
>>63885297
Colorado lost to Hawaii.
>>63885216
9 SEC teams have finished top 5 this decade, with 2 more appearing in the top 5. 1 of the ones that hasn't is a powerhouse. This means every SEC team has tasted success and wants more, as opposed to an Illinois fan who would be satisfied with remaining bowl eligible.
Haven't had 2 gut-wrenching losses like this since 2005. I'm bootyblasted.
>>63885216
>Bama successful
Is it 2011 again?
>>63884902
>yfw Grip n Sip has a better conference record than Stanford
Theres a decent chance Jacob Eason won't come here anymore but I'm starting to think he was overrated anyways.
>>63885573
That kid is trash and you're right to not care.
He's goign to be one of those guys who rides the bench for 3 years then starts a year and graduates
>>63885474
And of those 9 teams only 4 actually deserved to finish top 5
>>63885137
I dunno about Moo-U, but after suffering through Coach O and the latter half of Nutt's tenure, I'm pleased as punch that Freeze has brought the program from 2 win seasons to knocking on the door of the SEC West title, two years in a row, with only one top recruiting class.
I'm disappointed they're not going to Atlanta, sure, but the Sugar Bowl is a good bowl game, and (especially if Kelly stays) the future looks bright.
>>63884990
TTU beat Arkansas in Arkansas and they're like the third best team in the conference. The SEC doesn't have the offense to compete with the big 12 this year, the only exception to that is Bama who can really hog the ball.
Let's look at this Georgia fan's list
http://www.scout.com/college/georgia/story/1617556-uga-coaching-hot-board
>Dan Mullen
>Gary Patterson
>David Shaw (kek)
>Jimbo Fisher (KEK)
>Sean Payton (FUCKING KEK)
>>63885615
>team ranked too high to start season
>gets knocked off by unheralded team
>team 1 must be slightly worse than we thought, but team 2 is certainly at least as good as we thought team 1 was.
>>63885475
You should be happy you got exposed now instead of wrongfully getting into the CFB and getting bootyblasted on a bigger stage like Alabama did to you before.
>>63885615
Finishing with two losses is generally enough to be top 5, which nine SEC teams have done. Maybe you could be more specific?
>>63885475
You were really lucky you were even in that Clemson game
>>63885717
lol
I doubt any of those is going to leave without being fired, much less for jawja
>>63885717
How does delusion like this develop? Is it just a southern thing?
>>63885754
They played in the SEC; there is NO schedule tougher than the SEC.
>>63885735
shouldn't >we have been exposed by the 2 p5 conference champs we beat that year? And now we call losing to a top 10 team on the road on a 45 year field goal "exposed"?
I'm actually just happy we did this well with all of those major injuries. Looking forward to getting spanked by tOSU in the Fiesta Bowl, now my NYE won't be ruined.
>>63885821
It's a overestimating prestige
Otherwise know as Cornhusker disease
>>63885728
More like
>team wins 11 games and only loses one or two
>finishes in top 5
MUH BIAS
>>63885782
>tons of terrible turnovers
>lucky
>>63885808
How so? It will probably be Kirby Smart because hes georgia alum and pretty much said this is the only HC job he'd take. I'd be damned happy with Dan Mullen and I'm not sure why you think he wouldn't come here without being fire. UGA is a much better program than miss state and its in the easier division.
>notre dame and Ohio state both blown the fuck out of the playoff
I am complete
>>63885717
>Payton and Fisher
ayy lmao
fuck the saints, no thanks.
>>63885893
What was the score going into the fourth?
>Rutgers president just fired the football coach and AD.
It's time for Schiano to return. At least he knows how to keep thugs in check and have modest success on the field.
>>63885894
Not much of an improvement and poor job security
>>63885947
it was a multiple score game, but that's in part due to drops and turnovers, like I already said. I don't know how that's lucky.
>>63885965
part of that recipe was avoiding being in the big10. Rutgers is fucked.
>>63885982
>not much of an improvement
>>63885899
Don't celebrate, cfp is going to have them play each other to spare both from getting blown the fuck out by real teams
>>63885983
Clemson's defense dominated your offense for 3 quarters
>>63886128
ok.
>>63886094
He's already in the SEC
Isn't that the appeal of Georgia?
>>63885717
>mike bobo
>>63886162
If they hadn't taken the 4th off it wouldn't have been close
Not to mention just how conservatively Clemson's offense played
>>63886189
What cruel irony
>>63886026
That's just it.....in a division with Michigan, OSU, MSU, and PSU, a string of three or four loss seasons would be acceptable by the fanbase there.
Schiano built the program and he could literally hold the job for the rest of his life if he wants, because Rutgers fans just want to be regularly competitive.....and even if A handful of Rutgers fans have an SEC win at all costs mentality, they don't have the power there. Schiano is a disciplinarian who is very unlikely to let his players embarrass you.
>>63886213
again, those terrible drops and turnovers were a significant element of that. That's the opposite of luck, friend. ND had like 135 yards of total offense in the first quarter despite kicking off to start the game. Truly dominated.
I'm not arguing about this anymore, you're spouting memes.
>>63886175
#3 state in the country for recruiting, great facilities, always overrated in preseason polls due to blue blood status, no cowbells, more money, much easier road to SECCG.
>>63886297
first half, not first quarter, excuse me.
>>63886297
They had 63
How many targets did Fuller have?
>>63886332
>Georgia
>Blue blood
>>63886385
That's not much
They had less than 4 yards a play in the first half
Throw out the 20-25s because lel those rankings and Alabama has played 1 ranked team all season and lost to them
muh brand recognition
>>63886610
no its not much, but considering the conditions, drops and turnovers, it's far from being dominated.
>>63886276
Yeah the floor for Rutgers is pretty much "don't be Maryland or Purdue"
Latest AP Top 25:
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Oklahoma
4) Iowa
5) Michigan St.
6) Ohio St.
7) Stanford
8) UNC
9) Notre Dame
10) Florida St.
11) TCU
12) Baylor
13) Northwestern
14) Oklahoma St.
15) Oregon
16) Ole Miss
17) Houston
18) Florida
19) Michigan
20) Temple
21) Utah
22) Navy
23) LSU
24) USC
25) Wisconsin
>>63886814
You're ignoring how badly you were in the ground
>>63886955
>8) UNC
This is my only issue with this. UNC is no better than Houston
>>63886332
>blueblood status
>>63886955
>LSU is back in the rankings
You can't make this SEC bias shit up
>>63887175
They're 9-3
>>63887175
Who would you put down there? UCLA? Wazzou? Pitt? Shitty MAC schools? I thought LSU might get that spot
>>63886950
>>63886950
And yesterday they gave up 656 yards of offense and blew a 21-point lead to lose to Maryland, which was itself under a lame duck interim coach.
>>63887236
*8-3
>>63887284
If LSU is *8-3 then Wisconsin should be 9-*2
first canadian in thread
>>63887284
Oh, sorry. but that canceled game was against McNeese St. For all intents and purposes they're 9-3
>>63887236
They lost three straight games then beat a shitty A&M team. Not very deserving of a ranking. Then and Wisconsin are literally on there just to improve Alabama's record.
>>63886955
>4) Iowa
>5) Michigan St.
>6) Ohio St.
I have no issue with this until the B1G actually plays Bama or one of the other top 4 I'm not gonna start celebrating. The B1G knows hard times babby!
>>63887365
Who would you replace them with?
That's the point of this
>>63887318
How? LSU's record is literally 8-3 where Wisconsin's is literally 9-3.
>>63887318
There isn't any asterisks under their wins. They canceled a fucking game this season.
>>63887398
Its literally all a ploy to give Bama more Top 25 wins
I wish I was making this up but just look at the AP and Committee polls all year. Wisconsin get thrown to 25 each other week, and a random SEC team that Bama has beaten gets ranked in the twenties
THIS HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE WEEK
>>63887416
>>63887440
Someone trying to be 2edgy4u I guess
>>63887510
So no answer?
That's what I thought
>>63887510
I want Reddit to leave with its conspiracy memes
>>63884315
>if winning 9 games a year is ok with you then fuck off.
Nebraska AD pls go. plenty of teams would kill to have 9 wins a year
>>63887510
god you tinfoil hat sec haters are fucking annoying
>>63886955
>alabama that high
>stanford that high
>notre dame that high
>northwestern that high
>no defense state that high
>ole piss that high
>michigan that low
>lsu that high
>florida that high
a selective, biased piece of garbage as always.
>>63885741
BCS/Ny6 bowl wins should be what you're going by. Like I said earlier, 9 win seasons are great but SEC teams only play 8 conference games and then play 3 games against demonstrably inferior (FCS, MAC, G5) teams.
With your current set up, getting to 4 wins should be automatic. Now all you have to do is finish in the top half of a 14 team conference that inludes TAMU, Mizzou, UK, and Vanderbilt and you're guaranteed 9 wins
>>63885833
Really? Not a single team in your conference is scary and with the exception of Bama for most teams I'd think the two best teams from any other conference would be favored over the SEC's best teams
>>63886955
Sorry Frenchbro, I beat you in then pick em league by 1 point.
>>63888066
Yeah I just saw that earlier.
THANKS FUCKING NOTRE DAME4S FACEMASK.
>have to wait 3 days for the committee's rankings
why is this allowed
>>63888168
Because NFL has a monopoly on Sunday and Monday football.
>>63888168
They've got jobs and shit
>>63888237
I'm kinda surprised they don't make us wait till MNF halftime for the rankings.
>>63888131
>rooting for Notre Dame ever
FUCK YOU, FRENCHMAN
>>63888168
I like it. Spreads out the college football news so that there's still stuff to talk about on Wednesday
>>63888131
Sorry, dude.
>>63888412
Haha I'll be fine (I guess).
>>63888408
>still stuff to talk about on Wednesday
but muh Tuesday night MACtion
>>63888168
>wait til Tuesday when NFL discussion is pretty much over
>release rankings
>discussion for the next two days without NFL to interrupt
ESPN and the committee are fucking geniuses, honestly.
>>63888287
I don't think ESPN's NFL division likes to ever interact with the NCAA division
Mike Tirico isn't the Saturday Night Football play-by-play guy because the MNF crew want him there for production meetings
>>63888460
A-at least both our teams won 10 games this year, r-right?
>>63888532
The committee isn't
They denied ESPN's request to move the playoffs for no fucking reason whatsoever
>>63888640
Move them? I haven't heard about this.
But as far as discussion goes, the committee's actual rankings and explanations are pretty genius too since it sparks so much outrage and talk.
>>63888532
It's true, the sports news cycle is controlled from above, with room for things that are shocking and sudden....or just gossipy.
>>63888640
That's a great move by the committee though.
Getting the CFPlayoffs ingrained in the New Year's tradition is the smartest way to go in the long run. ESPN's being short sighted.
>>63888634
Tbh finishing the regular season with two big losses hurts a bit.
How the fuck did Rutgers get into the B1G 10 in the first place?
>>63884268
>peer pressure
It's just common sense. LSU is a dumpster fire financially. Spending 15 million to buy out les miles would be retarded.
While there he has:
>won the natty
>regularly has some of the best recruiting classes in the country
>became the winningest coach in LSU history by percentage.
LSU can only go down from Les Miles.
Here's how to fix the program though: Instead of paying millions of dollars to fire your pretty amazing coach, pay an LSU fan 15 dollars an hour to follow Les Miles around during games and remind him how to manage the clock.
>>63888742
http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/college-football-playoff-exec-were-going-to-change-the-paradigm-of-new-years-eve.html
They tried to move the playoffs to that Saturday but the people behind the playoff said no
>>63888784
No it's not
And they're doubly idiotic for giving the Sugar Bowl so much fucking power
>>63888918
B1G wanted the New York market
>>63884315
I like how jawja fans are already deluding themselves into thinking the dumpster fire has been put out merely by firing an above average coach.
Your program isn't going to amount to shit next year, the year after, or even 5 years down the road.
>>63888918
>B1G 10
>>63888997
Well we disagree and we'll see how it goes. I think the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl both have to be on New Year's Day. It would really fucking with the whole Parade of Roses to move it.
>>63888997
>>63888784
I think it just means most people aren't going to watch the playoffs. The late game on the East Coast won't be watched at all, except maybe at bars. All 20-30 somethings go out for new years or have a party that isn't going to be cfb playoff themed.
It just means if you want to watch the playoffs you'll have to be anti-social.
>>63888997
dub af
NYE isn't the sit down and watch sports holiday that thanksgiving is
plus those ESPN commercials for it are really annoying
>>63884268
That Florida loss is extra funny after last night's display
>>63889124
I'll tell you how it will go
http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/years-college-football-playoff-schedule-official-terrible.html
Why does the Sugar Bowl have to be on New Year's Day? It wasn't during the BCS
It was on New Year's Eve four times in the 70's
>>63888640
Disney (more specifically ESPN) wanted to move the game because its on a Monday Night which could potentially conflict with MNF. The CFB season is already long enough when you figure in bowl games and conference championship games. Disney wants to squeeze out every dime it can get by putting MNF and the National Championship game on ESPN. I can't say I don't blame them, but that's what happens when you try to serve two masters
>>63889142
I don't understand why you're making excuses when the situation could easily be improved for all parties involved
>>63889244
Everything about this post is wrong
>>63889244
???????
December 31st is a Thursday
They tried moving it to a Saturday
Why do the semifinals even have to be existing bowl games? Why can't the semifinals just be separate and the NY6 and keep the NY6 how they've always been.
Keep the Rose Bowl the B1G vs the Pac 12. No ACC team should play in the Rose Bowl.
>>63889291
excuses? I'm saying they should move new years eve playoffs. New Years day is fine, but having them on new years eve is dumb
>>63889381
Adds prestige to the semifinals
>>63889383
Oops
Didn't see the intention behind your post
>>63889381
Bowl people are behind the playoffs
It isn't NCAA affilated
>>63889381
yeah basically this >>63889418; semifinals are more prestigious and the bowl games are also more relevant making more money for them.
>>63889381
Because the Rose Bowl doesn't want the 2nd place teams of the B1G and Pac12 when the 1st place teams are in the playoff bowls. They would be literally losing money.
>>63889037
Theres nothing dumpster fire about our program. We're just tired of being mediocre.
December 31th is a fucking lame date for me.
Everyone will be wasted by the time the game starts and I need to be somewhere where I actually can watch the game.
Last year was dope as fuck. A fucking hangover, a blanket and some friends.
>>63889298
>>63889355
It wasn't just the semi-final being moved if I'm correct. There was also talks of NFL playoff games airing the same night as the CFP Final. I would imagine ESPN would be in a bit of bind then considering they have contracts with both company's
>>63889568
Dude yes. New Years day was GOAT. Hungover as shit, getting comfy watching the playoffs.
Now I'm going to have to be like. Let's go out to a place with a TV or just look at score updates on my phone; both incredibly autistic.
>>63889568
Blame the Sugar Bowl
Or the CFP giving them the a permanent spot on New Year's Day for no fucking reason
>>63889478
So was Nebraska
>>63889613
CFP Final is on a Monday (no playoff games for the NFL happen on Mondays)
Jan 2nd is still week 17 of the NFL regular season. Thus, no NFL that day either since week 17, every team plays on Sunday.
>>63889702
The NFL wanted to put a playoff game on Monday night
But that's a completely different situation
>>63889773
That would be a scheduling disaster and eventually would cause too much of an unfair advantage for one team where they play on Monday, then because of the way seeding and scheduling happens, they'd play the next Saturday, giving them only 5 days rest.
>>63889635
>Now I'm going to have to be like. Let's go out to a place with a TV or just look at score updates on my phone; both incredibly autistic
Welcome to my world
>>63889830
Not if those teams played the next Sunday
6 day rests are a common occurrence in the playoff
>>63889896
I know that, but one time, that situation will occur because of how seeding will come out and it will fuck some team over.
Just leave them on the weekend. I'm tired of the NFL trying to turn the entire week into an NFL game.
>>63889880
Oh shit, even for day games on euro time. Do you just stay up to ungodly hours to watch evening games? Are PAC games still on when you wake up?
>>63890024
this. I haven't watched a TNF game except once this season because I got shit to do.
>>63890024
Gotta get that money
I expect that it wouldn't happen until the NFL expanded the playoffs to 14
And they can't until they can get the CFP to move
>>63889640
Why do you keep comparing Georgia to Nebraska? You fucking wish Nebraska could be on our level. Georgia is the number 3 state for recruits in the country, Nebraska has an excuse for not being good, Georgia should be Alabama or UF tier.
>>63890092
They still get monster ratings
>>63890156
This level of delusion is hilarious
>>63890179
yeah, they are making booku cash, but it still annoys me lol
>>63890251
Do you matter?
The purpose of pro sports is to make money
>>63890179
What was that Jags/Titans game ratings? I don't understand how so many people can waste their time watching these awful matchups.
>>63890047
Basically my saturday schedule since September was:
3pm : GameDay
6pm to 4/5am: Watching game
I almost didn't watch any Pac 12 games for two reasons, first I only like Cal in the conference and secondly because the gmes are too fucking early in the morning. Haha
>>63890302
I don't. I didn't say they should change it; it's a good business decision.
>>63890325
lol damn, that's committment
>>63890305
Low as fuck compared to other stand alone time slots but better than if the game had been played on Sunday at 1
That's all that matters
Reminder that if you think Iowa is better than Stanford you are subjectively and objectively wrong
8 team playoff when
>>63890504
Iowa didn't lose to Northwestern
And thankfully never
Y'all kept bitching so I went and fixed cfb for you.
P5 conferences are surprisingly balanced across several polls
Only changes that need to be made are perhaps conference/division realignment of the MM teams.
Will eliminate crappy teams getting bowl bids, remove some of the controversy around playoff bids, and do so without lengthening the season at all.
It's not perfect but it's better than the BCS or what we have now.
You're welcome fuckers.
>>63890504
When The CFP Comittee decides what bowl(s) will be part of system
>Stanford being better than the team that beat Northwestern
>>63890582
>Fuck off to FCS includes Kansas
Stopped reading right there. Sure, Football is more important than basketball, but that's just stupid
>>63890582
This is worse than before
There's no fucking reason to keep 5 conferences
>>63890582
I like Dan Wetzel's solution better
>>63890672
>implying FCS isn't still D1
>>63890634
Thing is literally every team in the FBS is going to finish with a loss. Iowa is going to lose to Mich State and Clemson is going to lose to whoever they draw in the first round
So you can probably make a chain of victory where Appalachian State has a W over the team who beat the team who beat the team who beat the team who beat the team who beat national champion Alabama
>>63890729
i like it too but teams don't want to play 16 games
>>63890791
Slippery Rock was the national champions in 1936
>>63890582
>Memphis in the SECW
Outside of this year, would literally go 0-8 in play most years. This is the only year they would've been "good" with 3 conference wins.
>>63890729
link?
>>63890848
You can't reduce other team's schedules for this
That's the biggest issue
>There's 40 bowls this year so we literally have to have at least 3 5-7 teams go to a bowl
disgusting, absolutely
>>63890979
Then don't watch the games with a 5-7 team
>>63890979
>tfw will probably get to blowout a B1G 8-4 meme team who hasn't played any real competition all year
Bowl season when you're mediocre is the best
>>63890979
Did they increase the number of bowls again?
>>63890979
Bowl games are stupid anyways so I don't even care.
8 team playoff
5 major champions
1 midmajor champion (seriously throw them a bone, even if it gives the 1 seed a first round bye)
2 at-larges
So basically assuming no surprises in championship week
1 Clemson
2 Bama
3 Oklahoma
4 Mich State
5 Ohio State
6 Stanford
7 Iowa/Florida State/TCU/Notre Dame
8 Houston
that second wildcard would be Bama or Clemson if they lost their championship obv
>>63890582
12 conferences
8 team playoff
11 game regular season
pro/rel, only 6 conferences eligible for playoffs.
>>63891107
the only reason non-NY6 Bowls exist is for advertising dollars
>>63891007
>We won less than 42% of our games! Let's go to the postseason!
>>63891051
>B1G bowl season
bowl season seriously only exists for conference shit talking
>>63891107
Yes
>>63891175
No fucking way they reduce the number of games
>>63890746
But there conference schedule wouldn't be Big 12 anymore, now would it?
>>63891155
>implying the 2 wild cards wouldn't go to SEC teams every year
>>63891155
This would be ideal I guess. Iowa would be a joke.
>>63891209
We really need to stop this philosophy with sports
>>63884268
>OT vs GSU
You guys fucking suck
>>63891292
Thats what got Richt fired.
>>63891421
Is Death to BCS worth reading?
>>63891421
No
Fuck that shit
>>63891231
yes, there's no way they'd do my setup for a number of reasons, but it'd be the best
Rumor abound that Richt will stick around at UGA but in a different position.
>>63890582
>>63891155
>>63891175
holy shit you all are fucking retarded. Bowl season is about interesting match ups between good teams that usually never ever play each other.
CFB doesn't need any fixing. Win your conference, and then enjoy bowl season. The plus one is perfect. If you win your conference and don't lose more than a game, you get to contend for a title. Otherwise fuck off. There's literally NO REASON for two teams from the same conference to play each other in a playoff game ever.
All this playoff stuff just makes it more like the NFL, when cfb is really all about hate. You hate your rivals and try to beat them each year. Winning your conference is how you can say, 'look at me, I'm better than all you fucks.' Nobody in the south hates pac teams and vice versa, why should I care if I'm better or worse than them?
>>63890582
>Penn State
>Mid-Major
>>63891476
We could eliminate a power conference and just have the conference Champions play for it
>>63891470
Can't say I read it. I just thought this solution made more sense seeing that all conferences have some representation.
>>63890582
>implying the NCAA has any power over the conferences
I like your midwest set up bro but the Conferences are all independent entities that choose to let the NCAA enforce rules they all agree on.
>>63891551
Why the fuck should G5 conferences have equal representation in the playoffs as a P5 conference?
>>63891517
you need to calm down.
I actually wouldn't hate going back to the old system, but that's been dead since the late 90s. So now that we've embarked down this path, you might as well do it right.
Also, while you've touched on what makes cfb special, you are pretending your extreme opinion is universal, when it's not even shared by the majority. There's a reason national rankings and national championships are important.
>>63891421
what year is this even from
>>63891472
Why not? The parity would be great for the game
>>63891604
What ever year Auburn won the BCS title.
>>63891607
That's not parity
Those are boring ass rapes
>>63891604
Looks like 2010
>>63890582
kill yourself with your reddit tier systems
>>63891517
I just care about seeing the best team come out on top. I wish we could do a 6 team playoff but that'd be way too unfair for whatever team arbitrarily gets the 3 seed vs. the 2 seed. It sucks to see a champion of a non-shit conference (TCU/Baylor last year, Stanford this year) be left out is the problem
>>63891593
Why shouldn't they? Think about how great stories like FGCU and Butler were during March Madness. It gets more people interested to see if the underdog teams will actually go far in the playoff
>>63891594
I probably do need to calm down.
But I think it's about balance. What makes cfb fun and exciting is the rivalries and history. OOC matchups are exciting too, and so is getting a national champions. But at some point it just becomes as bland as the NFL.
>>63891550
yeah that'd be the best. The Big Twelve was so close to falling apart too... god damn it does the Pac have to take one for the team and accept Texas
>>63891678
They shouldn't have lost
>>63891607
Why would parity be great for a sport where some teams are massive fanbases with 100000 people stadiums and others can't get 10 people to go to the game for free? Anything that gives G5 schools a chance at all is categorically bad for the sport.
>>63891653
Just like Utah vs. Alabama right?
>>63891721
Actually I'd cannibalize the ACC
It's just a basketball conference anyways
>>63891604
2010
>>63891726
with a slightly different playoff committee makeup, Ohio State doesn't get in last year with that VTech loss and we might be talking about Alabama or Oregon as the national champion
>>63891764
Literally none of those games are on that tier
>>63891800
Expanding the playoffs just shifts the controversy
Who would be #6 this year?
>>63890582
>No ivys
Still sucks lad
>>63891719
i agree with all that. the old bowl system actually had some charm to it, but everyone decided to abandon that in the quest determine the true best team.
>>63891876
>6 team playoff
5 P5 champions, 1 G5 champ (Houston)
The only problem with 6 is that it's not a power of 2. Yes I fully agree that no matter where the cutoff is we'll argue over the last teams in, but it sucks to not include each major conference
>>63891716
Because college football is different than basketball. Anybody can have a basketball team and fill a basketball arena. And the tournament can be held in neutral stadiums in rapid succession of games. People will go to see a couole NCAA tournament games.
A football game costs 5 times that amount, can only have one game played at a site, and requires attendance of both teams to make the cross-country trek in order to sell out stadiums.
Imagine if Houston and NIU played in a National title game that took place at the Rose Bowl. Who the fuck would attend that game? Nobody is going to pay the price of a title game ticket to go watch two teams they don't give a shit about play, and neither team could garner even near enough fans to go there.
You'd have a title game in a half-full stadium fulk of neutral fans that bought a ticket because the game was so uninteresting that tickets cost them $20. That's not an exciting college football atmosphere.
The NC should be, like always, a massive event that competes with the World Series and Super Bowl, not an event that has less people in attendance than the Texas high school state championship game
>>63891737
People still go to all the march madness games regardless of how small the school is.
I expect come playoff time, at a decently sized neutral site, every matchup would be a sellout or >90% sellout
PSU fired their OC. Pedo State on the rise.
>>63891719
>as bland as the NFL
lol there's a reason the NFL is a much bigger industry despite having 1/5 of the teams and not having people literally tied to them for life based on alumni status
It's a better product.
>>63891980
Except the actual games suck
What time is the official college football ranking coming out??? Fuck the AP poll
>>63891903
Ivys choose not to compete in post season lest they rape everyone with there team of old style white geniuses.
>>63892015
No they don't
>>63891936
A large basketball stadium hosts 30k people.
A bowl stadium hosts 3 times as many people.
Do I really need to explain to you why that makes a massive difference
>>63891737
Its only bad if your used to having the success handed to you. That fanbase may not watch the rest of the tournament because they were eliminated, but they're not they only ones who watch the games
>>63892066
Yeah it does
Everyone runs the same exact offense
Worse atmosphere
People keep hyping up ">muh parity" but their measures suck any authenticity the games have
1. Bama
2. Clemson
3. Oklahoma
4. Michigan State
5. Stanford
6. G5 Champion
7. FCS Champion
8. DII Champion
>>63892022
Tuesday at 7pm.
The final rankings next week come out before NFL kicks off next sunday.
>>63892063
THE FBS CANT HANDLE THE TE HEAVY IVYS!!!!!
>>63892119
How could it possibly be good to have a game between two teams that can't fill a stadium as the potential National Championship?
>>63892127
>Authenticity
yeah because Alabama buying truckloads of spaghetti for their fatass linemen who don't have to go to class is so authentic to call them "student athletes"
>>63892138
>TUESDAY
WHAT THE FUCK
>>63892204
No one throws games for high draft picks
>>63892132
Lol you took it too far
>>63891678
To me, if situational and geographical bragging rights are the most important thing (and they are), the changes that need to be made are not to include more playoff teams. The changes that need to be made are to implement regular season OOC matchups between the P5 teams.
I feel like the 6 blue blood programs should play each other in a rotating manner every single year, and that the top half of each conference must schedule 2 non conference p5 opponents.
>>63892259
Have you been unconscious for two straight years now?
>>63892138
When will bowl selection be done?
For the non ny6?
>>63892259
Did you just wake up from a coma dude?
>>63892143
National Championships
Princeton :26
Championships Seasons:
1869, 1870, 1872, 1873, 1874, 1875, 1877, 1878, 1879, 1880, 1881, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1889, 1893, 1896, 1898, 1899, 1903, 1906, 1911, 1920, 1922, 1933, 1935
Yale :18
Championships Seasons:
1874, 1876, 1877, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, 1887, 1888, 1891, 1892, 1894, 1900, 1907, 1909, 1927
Alabama :14
Championships Seasons:
1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012
IVY STRONK! Imagine if they didn't decide to sit down and let the kids have fun and win a few.
>>63892328
Afterwards
>>63892328
Pretty sure the Sunday the final rankings come out.
>>63891935
TCU and Boise St. sold out the Fiesta Bowl in 2010. Both of those teams weren't BCS (P5) teams during that game. You'll still get fans to travel to those games
>>63884268
>>LSU caves to peer pressure and decides to keep Miles
hey Les, sorry about treating you like a little bitch the last couple of weeks. but we decided to keep you around a little while longer. isn't that great news??!!
>>63892330
Reminder that at least 3 of those Alabama claimed championships are as dubious as it fucking gets
Like they were a 2 loss team and the SEC had a 0 and 1 loss team that had beaten them... fucking ridiculous
>>63892431
Is this real?
>>63890582
why would you make new conferences but deliberately make some P5 conferences much harder than others yet give them all the same auto bid?
jesus fuck you must be NEET as hell since you are this stupid and have this much free time
UKULELE
>>63890156
Nebraska was an actual blue blood before they threw their coach away.
Georgia is only going to do worse.
>>63892488
nigger got old fast
>>63892431
He's getting paid a ton of money
He'll get over it
I'm just glad they didn't get rid of him
I don't want Cornhusker disease catching on
>>63892506
the coach that made Nebraska a blue blood retired dipshit
they have been shit for the 21st century
>>63892440
I know I'm just having a giggle. Pretty much any NC from before the BCS was pretty much imaginary save for the few seasons 1 and 2 happened to play each other.
>>63892431
Did you see les last night? He fucking loves it there.
He gets paid either way.
>>63892396
TCU has a stadium of 45k they fill every week. Boise State has a stadium of 36k they fill every week.
NIU has a stadium of 20k they have never filled. Even among G5 teams there is a huge disparity between many of them.
And even if you somehow managed to sell out a bowl game between two literally whos, then over half of the fans present are disinterested neutral fans. That is not at all what college football is all about and doesn't make for an exciting event. TCU and Boise State also benefited from novelty. That was the first time it ever happened. If it's a regular occurrence, the intrigue drops significantly.
Much of the G5 literally cannot attract fans, no matter what they do. Who the fuck is going to travel to an NIU game? No one goes to their home games when they are undefeated and have a heisman candidate playing for them.
>>63892564
Solich was respectable
>>63892475
Some divisions are much stronger than others, I'll give you that, but these p5 are about as balanced as it gets with respect to historical ties, poll and rankings, and making sure teams aren't travelling 1500 miles for a divisional matchup.
>>63892624
if getting BTFO in a conference championship game and National title game in the same year is resepctable sure he was
he in no way had or would have had Nebraska back in the blue blood tier Osbourne had them at
>>63892431
The decision going into yesterday that was he was going to be released after the game.
Joe Schad is reporting this but he is a moron and I wouldn't trust too much of what he says
"LSU athletic director Joe Alleva announced after Saturday night's 19-7 victory over Texas A&M that Miles "is our football coach and will continue to be our football coach." Miles said in his presser he was not told until after the game that he would remain LSU's coach. He said that message came first from school president F. King Alexander, and then by Alleva. A source involved in the decision tells ESPN's Joe Schad that the decision to retain Miles was made in a meeting of LSU decision-makers during the third quarter of Saturday night's game. The source went on to lay out some of the reasons for the change of heart. The decision-makers felt that the media had swayed the public and that a decision to remove Miles would have been perceived as mean-spirited because Miles had become a sympathetic figure. Although Miles $15 million buyout would have been paid by private donations, the university felt it would have been difficult to ask for funds from the state in the future, the fear being that the state would just tell the school to rely on donations. There was also the perception that Miles appeared less hard-headed about making changes once reports about his future had emerged. The source added that it would be strongly recommended that Miles make changes on his offensive staff."
The reality is that with the govenor getting involved and the fan support they really had no choice but to keep him.
Some LSU fans are saying that Les Miles planted the cameras to garner sympathy for his firing.
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-sports/uga-fired-richt-despite-a-better-record-than-les-did-the-leak-ruin-it/60506233/
>>63892619
>>63892396
Also I should point out that last year's Fiesta Bowl featuring G5 Boise State did not sell out and it's Nielsen ratings were dismal.
>>63892665
But he probably had them better or at worse with par where Georgia is now
>>63892330
>Princeton
>Yale
that's because no other schools existed back then
>Okie Lite tries to trip OU player....again
https://twitter.com/Eddie_Rado/status/671006982782889984?s=09
Clay Travis is a cum guzzling faggot.
>>63892703
That had to do with its retarded date and time
All 3 bowls that day had shit ratings compared to previous games
>>63892665
But Nebraska wasn't going to find Tom Osborne again
>>63892801
Even so, if that game had a team with a resonable following in it, like Georgia or Florida or even Minnesota, instead of a community college in Idaho, the stadium would have at least sold out.
>>63892830
yeah but they didn't fire him which was the point of the post
A&M TTU TEXAS BOWL GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF WE WERE THE SHITLECTION COMMITTEE WE WOULD DO THIS...
>>63892908
But the Peach and Orange Bowls had smaller attendances than usual as well
The Orange Bowl attendance went down by 14k
OSU is butt blasted as it should be
Who ya got in the Big Ten Championship game?
>>63892744
Alabama football began in 1892
Notre Dame football began in 1887
Michigan football began in 1887
You don't need to be jelous just because your plebeian team was late to the show.
what happened bros
we looked like we didnt even belong in the same division
i dont even know what to say
>>63892703
The cotton bowl's ratings weren't much better than the fiesta bowl's rating and that game never sold out with two P5 teams. There was still room for 30k more people to attend that game and those teams were ranked higher than the teams in the fiesta bowl game.
>>63893125
Harbaugh doesn't have his players yet. He went farther with Brady Hoke's talent than Hoke himself
>>63893125
how does he do that and not have moles all over
>>63893125
Turns out being a turbo-autist won't win you games.
>>63893201
Hoke had some amazing recruiting classes
School rivalries are objectively stupid, and there is literally nothing you can say to prove me wrong
>>63893125
You guys fired a bad coach and replaced him with a worse one.
>>63893206
Saban's a turbo-autist and he does just great though
>>63893125
Zeke blasted that defense that upto that barely handled Indiana's meme qb
So if Dan Mullen goes to Georgia does that give us a chance to snatch Gonzales, Hevesy or Brian Johnson for the Ohio State job?
How do you qualify ranking Alabama ahead of Ohio State at this point?
OSU has the better loss and a more characteristic win
>>63893221
It's Michigan
It shouldn't be hard to
>>63893221
Too bad he didn't have time to develop those classes though
>>63893251
>Indiana's meme qb
>Nate Sudfeld
>meme QB
Did you even watch the game or are you just stupid? Jordan Howard is a running back and Nate Sudfeld is a pocket passer with less than 100 rushing yards this year
>>63893320
>Muh SEC
>>63893240
do people actually believe this meme?
you get a pass because you were stupid enough to go to aOSU, but like other people?
>>63893125
>first year headcoach seems to have programmed turned around
>wins a lot of games with someone else's players
>gets blown out at home by bitter rival in the last game of the season
I'm not a Michicang fan, but I know that feel.
At least we still have academics, r-right?
t. Florida
>>63893396
>do people actually believe this meme?
NOPE, ANYONE WHO CAN MAKE THAT SHITTER LUCK LOOK EVEN AVERAGE IS AN ELITE COACH.
>>63893396
Obviously nobody believes Harbaugh is a bad coach. He just isn't enough to compete with Dantonio and Meyer
>>63884656
The delusion of the SEC folks.....
>>63893320
OOC
>>63892775
>yfw okie lite fans like humping reindeer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3KNkMi6-ww
>>63893493
>FCS opponents
>>63893442
DANTONIO IS TRASH.
SO IS MICH ST THIS YEAR
>>63893449
When will this shit finally stop
>>63893449
>mfw Alabama doesn't have the best resume but will get in the CFP over other teams because of blueblood status and eye test
Honestly I cannot make an argument to have them in over other 1 loss teams except that >>we lost earlier in the season and have looked fairly good since
>>63893320
this. and florida is a pushover at this point. not saying that ohio state has a strong case itself, but bama's supposed quality SEC wins have dwindled as the season's gone on. funny how that works out. oh well it already got them in playoff position. doesn't matter that the whole point of it fell apart afterwards! roll tide motherfuckers!
>>63893493
Yes, those were big victories over the powerhouses of Wisconsin and Charleston Southern
>>63893320
Because even with their loss, Alabama is almost universally considered one of the best teams in the country.
Let me walk you through it: how are you defining what makes a good loss or not? Most people, (and since you're an idiot, I doubt you're any different) default to looking at the ranking of the team that beat your team. So losing to #2 Bama by a close margin would be a "quality loss", because it was a highly ranked team that beat you.
So what you're doing here, is you're looking at the coaches poll and seeing that #2 bama has not beaten very many ranked opponents, according to the coaches poll. You then think that this should prevent #2 Bama from being #2 in the playoff rankings.
But have you seen what's retarded about this yet? No? Let me explain: You're looking to the coaches poll to determine the ranking of #2 Bama's opponents, but ignoring the fact that the coaches poll also puts Bama at #2.
You can't pick and choose aspects of the coaches poll to ignore: Either Bama is a #2 team that has beaten a lot of lesser teams, or it isn't necessarily a #2 team, but then the teams bama has beaten could be better (and they are. The SEC is legitimately one of the best conferences).
As long as Bama is #2 in the coaches poll, Bama gets in the playoffs. Bama will remain #2 in the coaches poll if Bama wins out, and no other team has some ungodly high statement game like (The) tOSU had against Wisconsin last year.
This is just how the coaches poll works: Informed people rank teams based on wins and just how fucking dominant they are in game, based on extensive football knowledge mandatory to be a CFB coach.
>>63893522
So what?
If you're playing a team you're expected to beat by 40, does it matter the classification?
Do you feel losses later in the year are worse than losses in the beginning of the season?
>>63893562
Ohio State played 6-6 Virginia Tech
It was their toughest OOC opponent
>>63893565
Alabama has not been dominant. And yes, I'm well aware Alabama is overrated.
>>63893602
Alabama scheduled some OOC teams that OSU wouldn't ever touch with a 50 foot pole, basically community colleges
really negates any potential for an upset
>>63893593
Absolutely
everyone forgets that Oklahoma lost to Texas and Alabama lost to Ole Piss apparently
>>63893593
Should we have the championship game be the first of the year?
>>63884706
This. So much this.
>>63893585
...yes
>>63893565
No it has been proven the coaches hate doing the coaches poll and almost never take it seriously.
>>63893628
And Hawaii/Western Michigan was going to stand a chance against Ohio State?
>>63893607
Alabama most certainly has been dominant. This isn't reflected in scores so much as it has been reflected in games overall. Every game Bama has played since Ole Piss has gone exactly to plan:
Grind their offensive line into dust, and take over the game offensively in the second half.
If Alabama is overrated its only by one or two positions, not enough to take them out of the top 4 that go to the playoffs.
>>63893686
No it doesn't. And you literally can't prove it does.
>>63893565
>coaches who don't watch games
>informed
I'll give you this, the SEC is one of the 5 strongest conferences, that's certain.
>>63893362
I was actually trying to think of Diamond
>>63893628
>Middle Tenn, ULM, Charleston Southern
Why does the SEC allow this shit?
Yes there was Wisconsin... IN THE SOUTH.
Alabama has left the South exactly once in the regular season in six years... and that was part of a home and home with Penn State
>>63893628
Alabama's schedule was considered the toughest schedule in college football pre season. Saban isn't trying to schedule cupcakes, it just sort of happens when playing against Bama: the team tends to destroy your morale for the season.
>>63893700
Well, I really hate it that they are forced at gunpoint to do the poll.
>>63893651
Yeah we should. You play the Championship game to start the season then play through the whole regular season to determine who will make the Championship at the start of the next season.
>>63893708
>this whole post
are you for real
>>63893739
Texas is in the Midwest.
>>63893585
Yes. FCS teams don't have the same number of scholarships as FBS teams. Losing to an FCS team (or playing one close) is so much worse than doing the same against FBS
>>63893493
neither had good OOC. The real answer is that aOSU is 3rd in their conference, and Bama is 1st in theirs. No evidence that one is necessarily a lot better than the other this year.
>>63893686
Why?
>>63893748
[citation needed]
I mean wouldn't any SEC team playing Alabama have a harder schedule? Even if they don't have big bad Wisconsin as an OOC they'd have Bama on their slate
wait a second r u trolling
>>63893766
I like how the dialog in these threads has shifted from bootyblasters and baylor trying to delude themselves into the playoffs, and now it's just bootyblasters and baylor trying to take bama out.
Nice try y'all!
>>63893769
There are plenty of FCS teams better than FBS teams.
>>63884789
Acc went 3-1 against sec yesterday. SEC fags are hilarious.
>>63893768
By no classification of anything ever is Texas in the Midwest
>>63893769
But neither lost
Both destroyed their cupcake OOC
>>63893768
-2/10
>>63893759
They basically are. Most coaches have said they don't like doing it since it is a waste of time and they usually give their rivals and teams they don't like shit rankings because they don't like them.
>>63893813
You aren't entitled to a spot just because your name is "Alabama" retard
the Crimson Tide deserves serious scrutiny
>>63893813
I really can't tell if these posts are for real or not.
>>63893832
Said someone who doesn't live in Texas. Go to Alabama or Georgia and ask if Texas is a southern state. They'll tell you to fuck right off.
>>63893801
No, remember, this was when Auburn was considered a legitimate natty contender. Auburn was widely ranked #1 in the SEC, and considered to have the best chance to enter the playoffs.
Everyone was wrong, but there you go. I'm not saying the preseason rankings were accurate at all, just that Bama wasn't trying to schedule ez games.
>>63893801
It was considered tough because the SEC was considered to be REALLY god this year. For fuck sakes the AP thought fucking Auburn was going to the NC game before the season started.
>>63893858
So where should they be ranked? Why should they be punished for winning out and winning their conference?
>>63893768
Are you stupid?
>>63893863
I'll repeat. By no classification of anything ever is Texas in the Midwest. It's either put in a broad region of "The South" or "Southwest"
I dare you to find anywhere that has Texas as part of the same "Midwest" region as states like Wisconsin
>>63893593
Yes, losing early and winning late show some sort of improvement or "clicking"
>>63893868
>trying to schedule ez games
the SEC does the scheduling for in conference... Alabama only does their OOC
and 3 of their 4 OOC games (Seriously SEC? too afraid of yourself to have a 9 game in conference slate?) were against D-II quality teams
>>63893716
Tell me what you think is more impressive:
>Team A is ranked #1 and plays and FCS team they are favored to beat by 35. They have a Heisman candidate who plays almost the entire game, along with most starters. They win 49-7 and beat the spread
Or
>Team B is ranked #2, and plays a middling team from a P5 conference. They are favored by 24 points. After going up 28 in the 3rd quarter, the coach substitutes so 2nd string, 3rd string, and Seniors get to play while the losing team keeps the starters in and scores some garbage time points on the 3rd defensive unit. The final score is 42-24 and Team B fails to cover the 24 point spread
>>63893858
Sure, and it receives it from informed coaches, the playoff committee, and commentators, from which nearly universal agreement emerges that the Crimson Tide is one of the best teams in the country.
The only people who really disagree are the aforementioned fans of meme teams who will never deserve a playoff spot.
>>63893891
Because they still have a loss and have struggled at times against mediocre teams
>>63893891
they will have the 4th best resume if everything goes as expected. Doesn't really matter desu
>>63893910
Saban wants 9 games. He is literally the only coach in the conference who voted in favor of it. He hates playing fcs teams and is on record saying so.
So who wins the SEC East next year, Florida or Tennessee?
>>63893529
when B1G teams are consistently good instead of once in a decade
>>63893891
They lost to the only team on their schedule we can reliably assume will even be ranked this week.
>>63893903
These are southern states for reference.
>>63893602
ohio state has a better win than bama
ohio state has a better loss than bama
ohio state has the same record as bama
ohio state had a much more impressive win last week than bama
so if we go by poll idiot logic bama should be #1.
>>63884706
Worse than their rival(Florida) being in the shitter, hiring a new coach and immediately doing what has eluded Richt for however many years? Guy is washed up if he ever was anything, but a 5 star recruit babby in the first place and Georgia is in a better position now than Florida was last year.
The choice was between keeping him and continuing to have hyped-up, but ultimately pointless seasons or fire him and give themselves a chance of getting somewhere.
>>63893923
I mean yeah ultimately Alabama is going to be the 1 loss champion of a good conference
Ohio State couldn't win their conference, so Michigan State (or >Iowa) gets to rep the Big Ten for them
Stanford... sorry, shouldn't have lost to Northwestern
>>63893944
Probably florida again. Tennessee will never have a good season as long as they're coached by a victim of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
>>63893943
Well if Saban wants it I'm against it.
Fuck that nigga
>>63893920
Outside of TWO undefeated teams, so has everyone else. That isn't much of an argument dude. (And that one undefeated team struggled with a 3 win team too)
>>63893989
>>63893989
I agree with this. I wonder if the SEC is just an AQ at this point
>>63893821
not surprised the best team in the ACC beat the worst team in the SEC
now if something happened, like, the worst team in the SEC beating the second best team in the ACC, that'd be some shit
oh wait
>>63893948
Are you 12 years old? College football has been around for longer than 2005-2013
>>63893943
Do you know how bad that would fuck the SEC in the long run holy shit they should do it. When they get BTFO in every bowl game after a few years and end up Sun Belt tier I'll be laughing at the grave.
>>63893964
I know an easy way to determine the South
were they an active state that chose to fight for the South in the Civil War?
Then they are in the south
Texas is in the South
>>63893960
You didn't answer the question presented.
>>63893891
Because other 1 loss teams have posted more impressive resumes
>>63893910
Didn't Wisconsin win back to back to back B1G championships when they were scheduled?
Instead of telling SEC teams to schedule better opponents, why not tell non-SEC teams not to suck?
>>63894005
OSU beat #10 strongly and barely lost to MSU as time expired, who will probably make the top 4
the CFP loves to play subjective games so I think there is definitely an argument
>>63894009
I don't want to see 2 big ten teams in the playoff. Let another region see what they can bring to the table
WE ALREADY DETERMINED BIG TEN PECKING ORDER WE DON'T NEED TWO FUCKING BIG TEN TEAMS
>>63893916
they're literally the same
>>63894093
how about you leave
the
fucking
south
Any game scheduled in TX or Atlanta is going to be a home game for Atlanta. Leave the fucking South just once a year, god damn
>>63894095
You lost late in the season and didn't win your conference. One of the major things about cfb has always been "if you lose, lose early"
Inb4 >muh 2011. You can blame OK St for losing even later than Bama did and to an unranked shitty Iowa St team.
>>63894095
Ohio State didn't get their shit together by the 11th game in the season (like they did last year), they don't have an argument at this point, a future Alabama/Clemson loss notwithstanding.
>>63894146
As someone who has lived in both, why?
The north is a racist frigid hellhole.
The south is an idyllic enlightened paradise in comparison.
Thankfully, so far we've been able to keep the four playoff teams to deserving conference champions
I'm worried about how shit's going to look when we get multiple 3+ loss conference champions...
inb4 haha notre dame
>>63894041
You realize you're essentially adding one win and one loss to half the teams in your conference right?
The SEC's dominance is propped up by the fact that they only play 8 games in conference.
How OU fans got this big a head after beating Baylor and OK St. and holding on vs TCU is beyond me. Explain to a non big 12 viewer why they won't melt down against a Bama team better at every position except WR from least year.
>>63894058
An argument could be made for Stanford to be ranked over Bama right now.
>>63894108
>>63894180
convenient to say but we all know if a one-loss Georgia or Auburn team was sitting on the outside there would be a horde of people saying they deserved to be in along with Alabama
That is, if the committee didn't go ahead and rank them in the top 4 anyway. After all, they shoehorned a one-loss Bama ahead of like 5 undefeated teams with the prelim rankings.
>>63894238
I haven't seen an OU fan in this thread or the last dumbfuck. What ARE you talking about?
>>63894014
We're talking about why SEC teams get preseason votes and B1G teams don't.
Iowa last had a ranked finish in 2009. Northwestern has had one since 1996. Would you bet on them to do well, or say, an SEC team that's already had a top 5 finish this decade with multiple stacked top 10 recruiting classes?
>>63894192
Yeah, because Alabama desperately riding 46 carries from Henry to stumble by a shitty Auburn team is indicative of having their shit together
>>63894239
An argument could be made for Navy to be ranked over clemson right now.
Are you retarded enough to make it is the real question.
>>63894239
I'd rather kick Clemson out. Way to win your group of 6 conference, no one cares
>>63894239
That would be a retarded argument senpai but feel free to make it.
>>63894180
but 2011 is a good point and now there are 4 spots instead of 2. "if you lose you lose early" is bullshit in this case since the loss we're talking about was of the smallest margin possible and if msu wins the big 10 championship convincingly I think osu has a good case to be included as well.
>>63894280
The SEC has looked fairly weak for 2+ years now my man
no New Year's Six bowl wins for the last two iterations
>>63894283
You're just fucking mad your OC didn't have the balls to do that with Zeke against MSU, and that's why you lost.
>>63884744
Auburn has been to 2 championship games in the last 5 years
>>63894041
That doesn't make any sense.
>>63894280
why would you choose Iowa and Northwestern in that example? Those are like the 5th and 6th most successful big10 programs in the timeframe you are discussing.
>>63894280
pre season ranking does matter. it gives you a much higher margin for error especially when other teams in your division get the same privilege. it's a self fulfilling prophecy. it's bullshit.
>>63894289
They're undefeated and have a better win than Alabama
Why is no one talking about Kyle Whittingham?
Superior Realignment plan coming through
>>63894238
>Every position except WR
M8, Blake Sims might be a horrible qb. but he's better than Coker
>>63894238
See: January 2014 Sugar Bowl
>>63894244
Uh no, 1 loss non conf champ should not get in over a 1 loss conf champ. Period.
THE B12 IS OBVIOUSLY THE TOUGHEST CONFERENCE TO PLAY IN.
ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS BUTTHURT.
>>63894383
Fuck that shit
It's retarded
>>63894410
Lol you are full of shit. Holy hell do you even football bro?
>>63894383
>not having bottom 2 play top 2 for pro/rel at end of season
pro/rel bowls would replace bottom of the barrel shitbowls and would be much more exciting.
>>63894146
The home field advantage is considered to be about 3.5 points, and while Texas isn't exactly neutral, it's not a home field either. Why don't you just not suck?
>>63894285
You're saying crazy things, while Stanford has a better resume than Alabama.
>>63894296
Stanford has possibly beaten 3 teams ranked higher than the best one Bama beat. They have 2 losses, but to higher ranked teams than the one Bama lost to.
>>63894417
CFP didn't seem to care about that earlier
what with Bama's "quality loss" excuse
>>63894417
really? because plenty of people were butthurt about tcu not getting in over osu last year. what was your opinion at that time i wonder.
>>63894469
for the past month you've been trying to mock people for applying this exact logic to teams like ND.
>>63894454
I just think Henry is the reason for all of our success, while last year someone had to actually throw it to Amari
>>63894416
So Clemson is going to destroy OU this year too. Oh wait, they didn't even play Deshaun Watson when they beat you 40-6.
>>63894332
Most SEC teams are still a better bet than most non-SEC teams though.
>>63894365
Not really. Ohio State has multiple teams with the same record above them despite being the unanimous #1.
>>63894354
See the original picture.
>>63894523
Coker's led a 2 minute drive to win a game after trailing in the 4th in Henry's worst performance, he's done everything he's been asked to senpai
Michigan is going to ND for a bowl game right?
>>63894513
No I haven't. Notre Dame was on the Alabama side of the logic. They had beaten lesser opponents with lesser rankings from G5 conferences, while Oklahoma had a lot of great wins.
Now, Alabama is the team with 0 quality wins and Stanford has several.
>>63894530
Don't care, every team we lost to last year has already been beaten and we're way better than last year and especially two years ago.....when we beat you. You don''t have McCarron or Cooper either
>>63894488
that would be an argument if Ole Miss won out and Bama still got a spot. The CFP saw the loss as a fluke and placed Bama that high because they knew Bama would win the West and the SEC
>>63894508
A Ohio State won their conference, I'm not sure what your argument is.
>>63894564
>Forgetting Sims game tying drive at LSU
Really they are probably equal as both failed to keep the season perfect
>>63894552
>see the original picture
it only matters that there's a bizarre disparity in perception, it doesn't matter if its regarding the specific teams listed here.
>>63894595
Calvin Ridley is just as good as a freshman than the entire "senior" Sooner fucks who have been their three years and will do shit in the NFL.
Are you really doubting Saban's players above anything?
>yfw Florida spaghettis their way to a sloppy win over Bama
>>63894552
>Most SEC teams are still a better bet than most non-SEC teams though.
I categorically disagree, especially in the East. By all performance and record-based measures the SEC East is the worst division in power 5 conferences right now
>>63894280
>Would you bet on them to do well, or say, an SEC team that's already had a top 5 finish this decade with multiple stacked top 10 recruiting classes?
Maybe people who actually know shit about football and investigate coaching changes and that kind of thing could predict Iowa would have a good year
>>63894469
Who besides ND are you talking about?
>>63894572
you brought up that stanford has more losses, but to better teams that bama played. you specifically bitched about this suggestion with >muh quality losses
also, please explain why we think the 2nd tier big12 teams are quality?
THANK YOU FOR WINNING THE NATTY AND BRINGING THE BIG 12 THE MONIES OU.
YOUR QB IS A KLIFF BABBY THOUGH.
>>63894610
This started with preseason rankings. People are more likely to think SEC teams will be good. That's all it is.
Looking at the rankings. UNC makes the playoffs with a win over Clemson. Would be hilarious.
>>63894633
>Florida over Bama
>USC over Stanford
>MSU bootyblasts Iowa
How fucking mad would you all be to see Ohio State take that 4th spot?
1. Clemson
2. Michigan State
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
>>63894639
We're talking about preseason rankings.
>>63894641
Maybe. Yet they didn't have a single vote in the preseason. Must not be a popular opinion.
>>63894280
Hey here is an idea, lets not rank on history since it does not mean jack shit.
>>63894677
oh so you are just restating the exact thing people have a problem with?
>>63894595
So easy to say "We're way better than last year" when you've played no one but known chokers Okie Lite and Baylor
You guys are to the playoff what LSU was to the regular season, even Michigan State has more cred.
>>63894552
>Not really. Ohio State has multiple teams with the same record above them despite being the unanimous #1.
strength of schedule. heard of it? it's this mystical thing that is somehow tangible and absolute, yet changes drastically every week, but only matters at the time. it shapes perception over the season that sticks even after everything that shaped it fell apart. the same perception that jumped lsu over ohio state earlier in the year, the same perception that has alabama at #2 right now. yes it does matter.
>>63894383
>Wazzu in tier 2 with both Arizona schools in tier 1
Well, at least I didn't have to read long to throw that one in the trash
>>63893362
Nate sudfield is going to fuck so many bitches in the nfl....
Who has the best chance at an upset?
Florida
Iowa
North Carolina
>>63894460
Good idea desi fampai
>>63894643
ND and USC will be guaranteed above every win Alabama has. UCLA still possibly will be.
>>63894654
I hate the concept of quality losses, I merely mentioned it. The strength of Stanford over Alabama is Quality of wins, which is the thing that matters the most.
Big 12 has not done anything this year to show they are shit and as a conference has wins against the third place SEC West team and Tennessee. It's not the greatest or most detailed OOC, but it shows the conference can compete with the SEC this year
I wish OSU could schedule a flex game to play next week and buff up the resume desu family
feels helpless
>>63884268
I like how they moved Notre Dame to 6 this last week, just in case Stanford won, that way they didn't have to move them up much when they won.
CFB committee hedging their bets and saving themselves from hard decisions.
>>63894786
Of those 3? North Carolina
But I give USC a better chance to beat Stanford
>>63894607
my argument is anyone that counts out osu now, but was outraged over tcu not getting in last year is a hypocrite as my post made obvious.
>>63894786
North Carolina has played the best of those all season and are vs the easiest opponent
>>63894786
1. Iowa
2. UNC
9001. Florida
>>63894786
Why is Iowa an upset?
>SEC faggots still think their conference is elite
>Don't think they're pretty much even with Pac-12 in how top loaded they are and how uncertain the top even is
Big 12 is by far the best conference top to bottom this year and I'm a Nebraska fan so I hate to admit that.
>>63894796
UCLA is definitely above the rest of the SEC at this point.
>>63894695
>implying b1g east isnt the best conference division
My face when someone does this.
>>63894720
What do you rank preseason rankings off of?
>>63894727
I'm sorry people have different opinions than other people.
>>63894745
Sure. SOS matters in the end. Preseason rankings doesn't.
>>63894796
They lost two games and the year is not 2007. It's over.
>>63894808
I didn't include USC because I actually think they will beat Stanford
>>63894817
Iowa is going to get straight up murdered, senpai. It's not even going to be close.
>>63894812
I didn't give a fuck about memeCU last year so your argument is wasted on me. I do love that aOSU is ded this year.
>>63894844
When did f-a-m start getting filtered into senpai? Kek
>>63894818
>Big 12
Really senpai, does the half of the conference make up for the bottom half?
>>63894817
Maybe because everyone is expecting them to lose by at least 2 touchdowns?
>>63894833
UCLA would struggle heavily against a rushing offense like Arkansas and Tennessee run
I believed in you guys until you lost to the Trojans, I really like Rosen's accuracy
>>63894840
pre season rankings and SoS are the same thing. pre season rankings shape SoS from the very beginning. how do you not see that?
>>63894692
I don't think the committee would mirror the AP. If UNC wins, Stanford gets in. If Stanford also loses, Ohio State gets in. If Alabama, Clemson and Stanford lose, you'll see Clemson in above UNC the day after UNC beats them.
Which is what should happen. UNC would be held out this year if they went undefeated in my opinion, and I have no problem with this.
>>63894876
What other conference even has a top half? The rest have 1-2 good teams and the rest are shit. SEC especially.
>>63894902
No they're not.
>>63894840
>and the year is not 2007
Are you sure because it sorta felt like it
>>63894840
Dont fucking have preseason rankings. They are cancer.
>>63894875
Try out [to be honest], [shaking my head], and [a man who gets sexual pleasure from someone else fucking his partner]
>>63894921
How do you get a measure of SOS without using pre-season rankings? More importantly, how do the polls use those magical rankings?
>>63894903
there's no way a 2-loss Stanford team gets in lol
>>63894897
Vegas has Iowa as a 4 point dog and I'm sure they know more about cfb than you
>>63894897
The line is Iowa +4 so vegas disagrees dumbass.
>>63894818
WHAT the faggot fuck are you talking about. Kansas and Iowa State are straight shit, so there goes the bottom. The Big 12 only looks good in your eyes because they benefit from only having 10 teams (no shitty nebraska, missouri, colorado, etc to fuck that shit up). Then again the SEC is literally Alabama, but the Pac is deep as hell and the Big 10 has 4 good teams and is pretty deep too. ACC 3 ships floating in a see of shit
>>63894876
It helps when you have to play all of the top half and can't get out of it through divisional scheduling.
>>63894958
baka senpai desu you're a kek
>>63894964
There's no way a one loss UNC gets in. Stanford was above them now and just knocked off the #6 team. Stanford is the next team up if someone loses their title game right now.
>>63894936
Jacksonville State ruined that for us.
>>63894939
You must be new here. Are you really trying to get newspapers not to cast predictions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
>>63894875
baka newfag. desu senpai, it was when some kek decided wapanese is spoopy (halloween)
>>63894921
Then what are they based on? Do they just plant a bunch of trees somewhere with each representing a team and see which one grows the most by the beginning of the season? Help me out here I'm completely oblivious. Let me in on this insider knowledge.
>>63894965
Iowa could barely beat one of the shittiest Nebraska teams in the history of the franchise. If Armstrong didn't turn the ball over 11 times imagine how bad that would have been a blow out. I'm serious, it wasn't even Iowa playing defense it was just QB throwing at Iowa players. And even with coaching gaffs and turnovers Iowa only managed to beat Nebraska by 8.
Michigan State lost to Nebraska on a shitty call from the refs on a desperate last drive. It was also the best game Nebraska played all year. Iowa is going to get shredded, Vegas has never known dick about college ball.
>>63894958
baka desu senpai kek
Now I know what you're thinking... did I actually type baka desu senpai kek or did I really just mean to type baka desu senpai kek
>the world will never know
>>63894834
The B1G east is so stacked it isn't even fair, the best team in the west has a fucking cake walk nearly every year.
>>63894744
OU is the only team in the nation to be undefeated against ranked opponents when playing at least 4 ranked teams get fucked nigger lover.
>>63895074
>franchise
Post fucking discarded
>>63895014
UNC will be knocking off the #1 team you brain dead fuck, they could make the biggest jump of the season
Stanford lost to a meme Oregon team in November, they're done.
>>63894985
>there aren't two absolute shit teams in every single power conference
You srs senpai?
>>63895114
>big 12 circle of shit
>manlet QB with one concussion already
>lost to clemson's backup qb by 34
>lost to texas
Get your joke program away from me
>>63895124
That won't be enough for them. They have 0 wins over ranked opponents and beating Clemson won't erase the two FCS opponents and lack of a ranked win. Clemson will still be ahead of UNC if UNC beats them.
>>63895118
>doesn't think a college football team that has most likely made over 1 billion dollars in sales and scheduling isn't a franchise
Get fucking real you purists. College football is legitimately the NFL where you don't have to pay the players and all the money goes to the college, merch, staffing, and other shit. It's a god damn franchise.
>>63894965
>>63894983
>muh vegas
You people are the worst
>>63895172
Nigger you straight don't know the meaning of the word franchise
>>63895079
MEME STEALING
>>63895182
>I'm better at predicting college football than the people who are professionally paid to do it
Do you see how retarded you sound? Bet you think you're a better head coach than the actual ones too
>>63895244
Gimme a second to go find an article showcasing how inept Vegas is at making college ball betting lines. It's fucking hilarious.
>>63895244
they set a line people will bet against, not a literal prediction
>>63895244
>professionals are infallible
Don't ever bitch about buying a shitty meal or watching a shitty movie
>>63895074
MICH ST DIDNT EVEN FUCKING BEAT THAT "SHITTY" NEBRASKA TEAM
>>63895168
>Clemson will still be ahead of UNC if UNC beats them.
here's your filtered
>>63895412
i think you skipped the end of the post
>>63895412
>the best game Nebraska played all season because they wanted to fuck MSU out of an undefeated season
>manage to get in a situation where they can win the game
>shitty wrong call by refs, ends MSU's undefeated season
I'll give you that MSU shouldn't have been in a situation to lose in the first place, but come the fuck on, nearly every team has one of those games. OU fucking lost to texass. >TEXASS
>>63895168
It will literally erase the lack of a ranked win.
>>63895539
MICH AT WON 2 GAMES THAT WAY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT. EXCEPT MAYBE THAT YOU WANT TO IGNORE HOW THEY'VE PLAYED AND ONLY JUDGE THEM BY RECORD?
>>63895575
OU LED, CONTROLLED THE BALL AND WAS OVERALL MORE DOMINANT IN EVERY WIN. MICH ST. DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.
YES THEY HAVE A GOOD RECORD, BUT THEY DONT LOOK GOOD. EVEN WHEN THEY WIN
>>63895437
>>63895596
But it will just be one ranked win, and it doesn't change the disparity in their schedules. Clemson's wins over ND and FSU far outweigh one win over Clemson, and most of the rest of their opponents are the same teams. And UNC still has to overcome scheduling two FCS teams.
Based on everything the committee has done and said over the past two years, beating Clemson would not be enough for UNC to jump them.
You can argue about whether or not that should be the case, but it's what will happen. It might feel like bullshit to you, and maybe it is, but this is the way the committee looks at teams, and Clemson has looked far better than UNC using every measure they use
>>63895608
youre the one ignoring how they've played recently, including getting the best win in college football despite handing them a touchdown and playing without their first round draft pick of a quarterback.
>>63895760
Jesus my grandma knows they give way more weight to conference championships than any regular season win
watch college football dipshit
>>63895608
>IN EVERY WIN
Stop being a hypocrite, you wanna talk about MSU's loss but the minute I bring up OU's loss to Texass you fucking dodge the subject.
OU didn't even lead the entire game.
>>63895823
Pay better attention. The whole conference champs massively outweighs the rest of the season idea was spread by idiots who were too dumb to figure out why Ohio State jumped Baylor after beating Wisconsin in their title game despite Baylor beating a better team that same week.
Strength of schedule and quality wins is everything to the committee.
>>63895777
>youre the one ignoring how they've played recently
Barely beating a shitty as fuck looking OSU at the last second?
Why is Nebraskas win "shit" for being in the last minute. But MSU does it in the last second twice and they're the best?
>>63895846
I don't give a fuck they shit on the top teams they beat.
Ou looks way they fuck better and puts everyone they play in their place before the game is even halfway done.
The only reason you'd be so butthurt is because you're insecure about how shit MSU is.
>>63895846
OU has absolutely dismanteld every single team Texas lost to that was in conference. Only truly close game was TCU because Mayfield went down.
If any other team in the nation had a loss as bad as OU's but went on to beat 5 ranked opponents I think they'd get the benefit of the doubt.
>>63895760
>no current ranked wins
This reminds me of another team who has already been chosen for the playoffs weeks ago.
>>6389594
again
watch.
college.
football.
dipshit.
>>63895957
And why do you think they slid to third before they even released the rankings?
>>63895982
Saying this while being wrong doesn't make you right
>>63895945
you are not objective enough to argue with and i hope you feel like you 'won', good night.
>>63896015
I guess I'm going to have to spell this out:
ALABAMA
L
A
B
A
M
A
>>63896074
Alabama is in because everyone else lost out, I would have expected to see them in fifth after this weekend. As it is, they'll be #4 almost certainly
>>63896066
I don't know why you are butthurt. All I did was tell you an opinion.
If you don't like it you can tell me your opinion.
>>63895215
>implying I'm not /hoc/ master race
>implying smuk_frok.png isn't my favorite maymay of all time
>implying I didn't fight in both of the great meme wars of 2015
m8 I was the one who started converting the bible to /hoc/
>>63896180
Why does UNC beating #1 Clemson not push UNC in over Bama then? Or whatever bullshit argument you made for someone else over UNC? Bama would have an even worse resume.
>>63896269
because Bama would be winning a conference title and Clemson would be losing one?
someone please make a new thread so these dumbfucks will get distracted and stop posting
>>63896340
See >>63895760
I was responding to something especially dumb he said.
New thread?
>>63896473
ill consider it.
but no promises
>>63896457
and I was replying to get a new thread made to get him to stop posting
>>63896473
I've made the last 3 im tired of doing it
What's this Lane Kiffin to UGA shit that's going around?
>>63894093
They were also the biggest group of chokers in the B1G next to the Shembechler Michigan teams. One year they were co champs with tOSU and MSU and the other they were 7-6 it was a dark time.
