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last race of the season
no f1 until the winter testing
???
profit
Vetlel is the champion of champions
mad max
>>63787422
amx*
>>63787439
i typed amx again 2bh
but this time i corrected myself before just smashing post
> mfw HWL 2016
2016 will be a repeat of 2007
the mercedes-powered team will go into the season looking unbeatable and squabble between themselves so much that they gift the championship to the under[strike]dog[/strike]prancing horse driver
and the honda-powered team won't have any sponsors because the team principal is an idiot
>predictions for yhabi dhabi dhoo
>secondberg pole, choco senna 2nd, vettel 3rd, williams p4 and 5, raikkonen down in 8th
>HAM gets a good start, rosbeta gets a shit one
>both williams jump vettel, massa ahead of bottas
>rosberg's engine catches on fire
>vettel crashes trying to lap a manor
>as the pit stops come around, choco villeneuve is 30 seconds in the lead
>mercedes fuck up the stop, forget to put the wheel on properly
>crashes in the pit exit
>williams 1-2
>red bull 3-4 15 seconds behind, raikkonen stuck behind them
>penultimate lap
>felipe, valtteri is faster than you
>>63787620
You forgot something
>>crashes in the pit exit
>red flag, because the idiotic pit lane exit is blocked
>>63787620
At least he has the balls to ignore them now.
>>63787483
maybe we're right, maybe legendary team boss ron dennis is an idiot and we're the smart ones. he's transformed shit-tier teams into worldbeating teams within a few years multiple times (1981-84, 1995-98, 2004-07)
>>63787620
>vettel bad start
lol
>>63786926
well, he's still rising
Has the winter test been scheduled already ?
>1981-84
John Barnard
>1988-'90
Gordon Murray
>'97-'98
Adrian Newey
>'04-'07
Same as above.
All of those men have records of success before and after McLaren. Ron Benis is good, but he's no genius.
His best skill is his ability to use his autism to attract the best talents. And then eventually drive them away, due to the same autism.
Fugg
Meant >>63788205 as a reply to >>63788019
>>63788027
tbf he was jumped by the Williams off the line in Silverstone and one other race I'm forgetting the name of
>>63788205
his job is to put together the team. thats like saying alex ferguson isn't responsible for manchester united's success, it was actually the players that were responsible
>>63788273
>his job is to put together the team
Except it wasn't really his achievement.
Newey joined because he disapproved of Williams' treatment of drivers, and didn't want to move to Italy.
Gordon Murray came in because he wanted to work with the Honda V6 instead of the inline4 BMW.
John Barnard was the only one who could be said to be a Dennis 'find', which was also after a proven track record in the US.
Also, it is to be noted that he drove all 3 away from the team too-
Newey by not providing him enough 'freedom' (whatever that means);
Barnard by refusing to give him credit for the mid-80s success and blaming the '87 down year on him (and not giving him a partnership in owning the team); and
Murray by shunting him into the road-car division, to fulfill his obsession of outdoing Ferrari by building 'the ultimate roadcar'.
It's like Alex Ferguson getting rid of players at their peaks, driving them to other clubs, to the detriment of his own, just to satiate his own ego.
>>63788413
of course circumstances have to exist to facilitate the availability of the people...
what do you expect him to do? poach ross brawn off of 2002 ferrari?
he knows the type of culture he needs his team to have to succeed. when someone no longer suits the culture, he outs them, struggles for a bit, and finds a replacement. but i'm not talking about his dismantling his good teams, i'm talking about his ability to create a good team out of a shit one within a few years.
>>63788451
>struggles for a bit
that's a bit of an understatement
mclaren since 2008 has been nothing but an increasingly downhill rollercoaster with no upturn in sight and each and every one of its hirings have proven to be absolutely shite
he puts his faith in people like witmarsh and sam michael and tim goss and boullier and prodromou who haven't done the team a single bit of good and then unceremoniously drops them only to replace them with people equally incompetent
even now they're too fixated on "b-b-but size zero!!" to notice their entire philosophy is just "let's do the opposite of what everyone else does and hope it works out" and has been for the last 25 years, with their brief periods of success dictated mostly by having the best engine on the grid and only two or three years by making the best out of the aero regulations thanks to newey.
since 2010, even when they had the best engine on the grid ron refused to capitalise on it because he believed mobil 1 could do a better job than petronas, to the point where mclaren were 40-50hp down on merc in 2014. given that the honda ICE is based on mercedes' ron's stupidity and mclaren's lack of performance will continue
>>63788451
>what do you expect him to do? poach ross brawn off of 2002 ferrari?
Ferrari did it with Brawn and Byrne in '97. Threw money at them and lured them to join.
>his ability to create a good team out of a shit one within a few years.
Yeah, it's this 'ability' I'm skeptical about. It's not him being a genius, more him being lucky about who was available on the market.
The lure for Murray was the Honda engine, and the lure for Newey was not having to move to Italy. Ferrari had given him a much bigger offer than McLaren to join in '97, he only chose to decline because of the relocation bit.
>he knows the type of culture he needs his team to have to succeed.
Clearly evidenced by McLaren's plethora of WCCs in the last 17 years...
>when someone no longer suits the culture, he outs them, struggles for a bit, and finds a replacement.
Yes, like he replaced the departing Gordon Murray and Steve Nichols 7 years later with Newey.
Or how he's replaced Adrian Newey with Prodromou.. 8 years after his actual departure.
This is my exact point. By not agreeing to compromise his team's 'culture' (autism), he is compromising his team's results. Guess which one matters more, in the F1 world?
>>63788603
>Or how he's replaced Adrian Newey with Prodromou.. 8 years after his actual departure.
prod worked at mclaren from 91 to the end of 05, as a chief designer from 01 until he left, and newey took him with him when he left for red bull
prodromou will never be able to do better than red bull aerodynamically - he was literally just an understudy so that newey could get shit done more quickly. he might know newey's tricks but he'll never be able to pull them off better.
>>63788641
I know. It's just that he's the biggest design name they have right now. So either he's replacing Newey, or they're still in their 'short period of struggles'. I just chose to give the guy I replied to an option to chose.
>British F1 sidecar
What the actual fuck am I watching right now
Should Hamilton have left McLaren after 2007 after they literally lost the championship for him in China? I cannot believe that decision wasn't made maliciously, it was so bad and Hamilton should have gotten out of there ASAP.
>>63788891
he lost the championship by being an idiot and trying to take more speed into the pitlane than his old tyres could handle
were mclaren stupid by keeping him out that long? yes, but he would still have 2nd place if he hadn't binned it.
>>63788934
Nobody on the grid, rookie or veteran, would know how much speed you could take into that pitlane with 'wet' tires that were literally falling apart. The team put him in a position to fail and he wasn't yet good enough to overcome that and win in spite of the team.
>>63788945
he'd already done several laps with those tyres in the worn-out state. he would've already known roughly how much speed he would need to take around a 90-degree corner so he wouldn't go straight on. that's just pure driver error at that point.
Where to watch race of champions?
What can be done to make F1 competitive again?
When you check out old school F1 from the 70's and the 80's, you'll find that it was far more competitive than it is today. In the 75' season, there were 9 different winners of 14 total races, with a field that had a max of 28 cars, and a minimum of 18 cars.
This year, there has been only 3 different winners of 18 races so far, with a 20 car max in the field. 85% of the field has been completely uncompetitive, and there hasn't been a single car to win that didn't start in at least P3. So essentially, the race is over after the quals, as the race is won 62% of the time by the driver from P1.
Is it a money issue?
>>63789136
Remove downforce
>http://www.motorsport.com/super-formula/news/engine-trouble-hampers-vandoorne-s-debut-super-formula-test/
>the city of honda
>>63789235
I'm not entirely sure where most of the downforce from these cars comes from, how would you 'remove' some? Make the front wing higher, rear wing smaller? Is there any way to regulate how much turbulence comes off the back of a car?
>>63789136
Allow free use of DRS
>>63789369
The wings and diffuser. Yes you can regulate it.
>>63789375
Allow f-ducts and other movable aerodynamic devices.
>>63789441
Loosen up regulations in general.
>>63789235
>>63789369
>>63789375
>>63789417
Would the F1 community and governing bodies support equipment modifications that put a greater emphasis on driver skill, rather than on technological supremacy?
I imagine the smaller teams would be all for it, but the larger teams would probably fight it all the way.
for anyone who doesn't/can'tuse acestream, this may be of interest:
>according to chris evans, channel 4 may replace the bbc for free-to-air coverage from next year
apparently he works for both companies, so he ought to know.
>channel 4
>adverts
kek.
Richard Burns died 10 years ago today.
10 years ago.
>>63790241
it's bad luck to name a rally game after yourself
ferrari are dropping marciello from their driver programme at the end of the year
is this the end for his racing career lads?
>>63790262
PLEASE KEN BLOCK DIE
PLEASE
PLEASE
>>63790241
literally who teebh :^)
>Charles Leclerc will replace Raffaele Marciello in Ferrari Driver Academy.
>Also 6 free practice with Haas and tests with Haas and Ferrari for him
he'd better be replacing shitierrez and not grosjean.
>woah, what was that?
>>63790241
>>63790262
Thank god for the mods.
Is anyone here looking forward for this race? I actually thought the winter break had already started until I accidentally saw something about Abu-dhabi on the news.
>>63791665
abu dhabi is one of my fav tracks for watching drivers lap (kinda like singapore and monaco), even if the racing is a bit on the shit side
the race last year was pretty good tho, with felipe closing in on lewis by 2 seconds a lap in the final 10
i haven't followed F1 in the last weeks
redpill me on engines news
>>63792010
The teams out-voted Bernie's and Tost's plans to introduce a second, cheaper class of engine - 2.4 litre V8 - to compete alongside the current hybrid V6s, in the interests of reducing the financial barriers of entry for teams coming into F1. Toto Wolff said that it would "never work" to have two different types of engines competing against each other.
In other news, we still haven't heard anything about Red Bull's engine supplier for 2016 so it's the same situation where we think Renault will continue to supply them, but at a greater financial cost to Red Bull (basically, they dun fucked up pretty good).
>>63792638
>we still haven't heard anything about Red Bull's engine supplier
wasn't it confirmed they'll be using unbranded Renault engines (the latest upgraded version that Ricciardo ran at Brazil iirc) that they'll continue to develop a little more in-house?
>>63791665
I noticed only after agreeing to go to my mother's birthday party that that'd mean missing the Grand Prix. I am somewhat worried how little it bothers me.
>>63792845
that was just thejudge13 making shit up as always
the only story they broke in the last year and a half that turned out to be true was red bull running the camo livery in testing this season
http://www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sport/formula-one/daniel-ricciardo-live-chat-question-and-answer-session-with-red-bull-formula-one-driver/story-e6frf3zl-1227620900251
can we bully him a little bit?
>>63792845
>>63793088
it was kinda of confirmed, Renault would develop it's engine and Red Bull their own with Ilmor.
But the FIA said no, it's a Renault Engine, no individual progress, they must use the same base and the same upgraded parts
>>63794391
>it was kinda of confirmed
Ilmor flat out denied it
>>63787428
Eat a dick Brazilian chimp
>abo dhabi is this weekend
who /don'tcare/ here?
>>63797867
maybe id watch it if it were the abu double, but only single points this year?? snooze
bernie really has no clue
>>63797867
Chance of rain?
>>63797867
>HAMILTON WINS LOL
more like /whofuckingcares/
Am I right that the first winter test will come late next year? The 1st of March? It going to be a loooong off season. We probably don't get to see any new cars before the end of Februari.
>Daniel Joseph Ricciardo
drivers conf live lads
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/fia-prueft-f1-motoren-hamilton-titel-erst-in-zwei-wochen-sicher-10260416.html
Top KEK
Haminigger might loses his Title.
The FIA checks Hamiltons Austin PU and Vettels Singapore PU and if the find something illegal they would get Disqualified
>>63801599
that's clickbait you batty
the FIA do this multiple times a season for multiple drivers and they have done for donkeys years
if there was something illegal to be found it would've been found in scrutineering
>>63801462
https://youtu.be/smeCNiGqq7s?t=412
the absolute legend, he did it again
>>63801698
Lewis's favourite circuits:
Hungaroring
Imola (not #1 because Senna died there)
Lewis's least favourite circuits:
Istanbul Park
Interlagos
Spa
Man Alonso is a weeb
>>63801698
Who did what again? Can't watch it because @ work.
>>63801847
Remember this question? vid me/hPAB
the same guy who asked the incomprehensible "30 years ago, niki lauda told us, take a trained monkey, placed him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car, yada yada, less buttons? more buttons?" question last year asked another one about whether the drivers missed the old circuits instead of going to a new tilkedrome every year
>>63801862
No way! Top keke. Something to look forward to when I get home
>>63801847
Whyre you at work on thanksgiving???
>>63801890
Why do would belgians give a living fuck about thanksgiving?
>>63801895
they invented freedom fries and freedom waffles and freedom kush DUH
>http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/delayed-lotus-freight-arrives-in-abu-dhabi/
meanwhile, Renault will finally announce whether or not they've bought Lotus this weekend
vettel is a fucking faggot
may hamiltons dominance continue
>>63801890
Believe it or not, American holidays =/= global holidays
>>63801890
stop making us look bad
test
>Red Bull discard upgraded Renault engine for Abu Dhabi GP
top keks
Why is Lewis so boring to watch
>Williams technical chief Pat Symonds says that the 2017 F1 aero package has now been fully defined, and is confident that it will be formally approved by the World Motor Sport Council.
>"The majority of the cues are taken from the Red Bull proposal. It's ended up with a bigger diffuser, a substantial front wing, and some I think quite attractive styling.
kek. sounds like the racing will be even worse in the future
>>63802427
>and some I think quite attractive styling.
vagina noses confirmed
>>63802427
>"In fact I suspect that we're adding a bit more than required, but at the moment Pirelli's estimates of increases of tyre grip are quite low, so we need to push the aero side of things."
>insert honda running dad meme that i can't seem to find
>but replacing honda with pirelli and hp with seconds
>>63802427
>a substantial front wing
WHY?
WHY WHY WHY?
FUCK!
>>63802674
I'm shit at F1 what does this mean?
>>63802739
That nothing will change in the front wing section, I assume, as they already have a substantial front wing now.
>>63802739
to put it simply it means even less overtaking
>>63802768
Great. Fantastic. Why the FUCK
>>63802785
>>63802785
what the fuck
>>63802739
substantial front wing ---> front drag ---> dirty air fucks you up ---> you can't be behind another car for long
if I'm right
>>63802674
This doesn't have to be a bad thing. It can help seal the diffuser.
Do the vortices of the front wing extend far behind the car? I would think not so far that they have a negative effect on the car behind. At least the effect of the front wing isn't as bad as the effect of the rear aero package. But I might be wrong, I'm no expert.
The people that run f1 are fucking retarded
Instead of making regulations to improve racing or promote entry of new/privateer teams they just build a tilkedrome in a new country and say "Hey guys look how the sport is growing"
>>63801698
>that based reporter
He should be official F1 interviewer
>gentlemen
Alonso can hardly hold in his laughter.
Gentlemen. Last year, I asked you "Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us: Take a trained monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car. Thirty years later, Sebastian told us: I had to start my car like a computer. It's very complicated. And Nico Rosberg said he pressed during the race, I don't remember what race, the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you to both. Is Formula One driving today too complicated with 20 and more buttons on the wheel, are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future, concerning technical program during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers."
This year, I ask you "Gentleman. Last year Sochi. This year Mexico. Next year Baku in Azerbaijan. Three new tracks in three years. Do you looking forward to new track or do you you regret not to find back to the eliminated tracks in the past like Imola, Magny Cours, Istanbul Park or Valencia. Question only for the four pilots who know this eliminated tracks I mentioned. Perhaps beginning with Fernando. Lewis, Kimi and Romain."
>>63801698
why is Lewis wearing gold chains to a press conference baka
>>63803148
I fucking love him. Christ almighty what a god
>>63801741
indeed desu senpai
What series can I watch during the off season ?
>>63803148
This guy needs to do the podium interviews
>>63803456
>having two phones
why
>>63803520
Fargo
>>63803859
racing series
>>63804035
none, racing is dead in the winter
You know what FIA should do to F1? They should end the constructors championship and make it all about the Drivers championship, so there is no team play bullshit. Each team would have 2 separate garages, with an entirely different crews each working for themselves only.
>>63803859
Is it good? I loved the movie so I'm worried the series will be disappointing.
williams castrated the martini livery again
>>63804726
They are legally required to do so
Why do you still watch F1 desu? It's so fucking boring, all the action happens in the first couple of laps then it's 'who can finish without crashing or breaking down'.
Also Lewis Hamilton is a complete twat.
Oh and the new engines sound shit.
>>63804726
So tolerant and progressive ;)
I'm so PROUD that F1 is so willing to respect the traditions of Islam, and that there are so many races hosted in Muslim countries nowadays ;)
We need more MUSLIM races! If only we could see the return of the German GP ;)
>>63804787
they're legally allowed to remove the martini name, nothing more. the red in the martini stripes is perfectly legal, williams just choose an unnecessarily conservative approach
>>63804845
legally required*, fucking hell
>>63804822
You're describing F1 before max the mad.
Engines will sound better next year.
>>63804035
Formula E
>>63804827
But we already have the British GP
>>63804827
more like isLAME amirite?? xDDDD
imagine a muslim driver stopping mid-race to pray
>>63804845
The red stripe is considered part of the branding I believe.
>>63804932
Bernie should introduce a competition caution for religious observations mid race.
I'm sure Lewis would support it.
Why do people want "faster laptimes" again? Do you not realize this fucks overtaking even more? If you want the racing to be crazier and the drivers to wrestle with the cars more - ban radio communication regarding tire temperatures and deg. Driver coaching altogether should be banned, and it is certainly a bit foolish to allow the engineers to dictate to the driver what to do with the car. When the engineer knows more about the performance of car than the driver, something is wrong, if entertainment is what you are trying to achieve.
Just look at the "glory days" of 2004 and look at how much overtaking occurred. Entire races with 1 or 2 overtakes and cars following each other for 50 laps without being able to overtake. Yes the cars were fast as fuck and looked awesome on track, but the racing that season was really not the best. Seasons in "inferior" and slower cars, such as 2010 or 2012 were much more interesting and intense.
The current engines are actually quite good. The acceleration is ridiculous and the top speeds of the Merc engines are actually quite close to the fastest ever. I think we saw 360 km/h in Monza this year and even faster in Mexico (but altitude etc so this isn't as remarkable). You can make an engine that accelerates faster and has a greater top speed, but even then there is a limit and we are currently quite close to this limit. The only considerable (5 seconds per lap) way to increase laptimes is to have greater downforce. If F1 truly aims for the 5 seconds per lap, the cars are going to be on fucking rails and tracks like Monza are going to be flat out all the way through with the exception of the slow chicanes.
I suppose you can also improve break performance, but even now, the cars break for the 1st corner of Monza from like 350 km/h in less than 150 meters, so I don't know how much better you can make this.
>>63805073
I also like this new engine, but the problem is that cars now are slower, look like shit and sound like shit compared the 2000's and still they cant overtake.
What was the fucking point. If there isnt going to be any overtaking anyway we might as well see good looking, good sounding and fast cars at least
lance stroll's billionaire daddy is gonna make williams a title contender again
villeneuve 3.0??
>>63805073
>Just look at the "glory days" of 2004
Does anyone actually consider 2004 the 'glory days' though? I'd actually consider the end of 2000 as the end of the glory days, since till 2000 it was a good balance of pace and difficulty to drive versus actual racing. It's after that year that the aero really started getting out of hand, IMO.
>>63805245
he said glory days because that's when F1 cars were at their fastest
his point is that making cars faster won't make for better racing
>>63804974
>mfw the Reverend Maldonado fucking crashes into the guy during the prayer
>F1 gets instabanned from every Muslim country
>The F1 calendar becomes good again
>>63804677
Season 1 is 9/10
Season 2 is 10/10 so far
go watch it
>>63802994
>fat john sad
>last race with lotus
Hope he does good it lotus lads
>>63805624
>No Britain or Germany
>Good
No
>>63805490
Fair enough.
>>63805207
i was hyper excited for lance stroll's career a year and a half ago, but after seeing him in f3 he's looking more like another Allen Berg than another Villeneuve desu
>>63803520
is the florida winter series still a thing? it was 10/10 a few years ago
also there are some random races like the rolex 24
formula e "races" during the winter too right?
>>63805073
more overtaking isn't something that should be aimed for. more close battles instead - DRS passing is shit, for both drivers and especially viewers since the fights for positions are over so quick.
F1 is rigged desu
>>63789136
its like you dont understand modern f1. Grids are smaller because no gt racing level budgets. As well as no costumer chassis's, so the team with good drivers who can take use of a well made car can dominate (merc).
>85% of the field not competive
Not sure where you are getting this from. They are all competive to each other depending on budget. For example (lotus, fi, tr)
POST YFW HAAS
>>63805073
I don't think that "crazier" racing equals better racing. The fun thing about the 2000' era cars were that they seemed to reach speeds that belonged in the twilight zone. Seeing 2 cars racing each other into turn 7,8,9 in Turkey was my season highlight.
I don't think that making the cars harder to drive makes it more exciting. I'm tired of seeing guys driving conservatively for the majority of a race because of tires, brakes etc.. I want to see the best drivers in the world drive to the best of their ability non-stop. And i used to love seeing someone slowly chase another car down for 15 laps.
>>63802444
Screencaped
>>63801741
Has he been posting more samurai stuff on twitter?
ahhh philosophizing about f1, the classic internet pastime
>>63806633
>>63805073
high cornering speeds is what makes the cars look exciting. if you watch footage from 1997 (when overtaking really started to die) and compare it to now, the 1997 cars look much faster but the overall laptimes are slower. (6 seconds a lap at interlagos, 4.5 at montreal, the only comparable tracks)
the two car-based factors imo that cause overtaking are
1) being able to follow a car
2) cars having different characteristics
aero effects don't matter on straights or low-speed corners, but to be able to follow a car through a medium or high speed corner is essentially all down to having a low aero dropoff in the wake. that doesn't necessarily mean not having insane downforce levels and high cornering speeds though, just being less sensitive to turbulence. ground effect is inherently less sensitive to turbulence than vortex generators and other appendages travelling through the air, so the cars just need to be more dependent on ground effect and less dependent on wings (mandatory flat plane, rules allowing for crazy diffusers).
two cars with the exact same characteristics will be fast in the same parts of the track, making overtaking hella hard. Having cars with different characteristics though means that you might lose time to the guy ahead of you in one part of the track and pass him where your car is better. Its not even about straight speed vs cornering speed, 2 cars w different characteristics in the same corner even could give you an opening without you even being faster than them, just cause your car's ideal line is so different from the other car's. A great example I remember of this is the Force Indias in Austria this year in corner 2 (pic), which weren't slower than the other cars in that corner or on the straight afterwards, but took a wildly different line than most of the other cars did (both cars did this the whole weekend).
might as well put on a name if im gonna make these types of posts
>>63789136
You can't compare 70s f1 to modern f1 in those terms, but you can compare 80s f1 to modern f1. The 70s formula one was amateur hour, only as money filtered in to the sport through Bernie's genius management in the 80s did things start getting as professional as they are today. Also the last two years are outliers, Mercedes is dominating because of sacrifices and gambles paying off, their domination is not a consequence of any specific policy f1 has that it didn't used to have.
But, formula one is not less competitive now than it has been in the past. There have been certain years where a few teams are on par at the top of the field and certain years where one team is stupid dominant speckled evenly throughout f1 history. More often than not there is one dominant team (80, 81, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 92, 93, 96, 97, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 09, 11, 13, 14, 15), and occasionally there have been a bunch of teams right at the top. Also, having 20 cars isn't a particularly small field, do you want a bunch of literally whos putting around in shitboxes ala 1989-93?
As for the poleman winning, qualifying is part of the competition? Cars have to start in some order, and the race is to see which entrant is best, you can't disadvantage the best entrant and have him start last or something cause then the races wouldn't prove anything. If you don't watch qualifying you're basically jumping in to the competition partway through, would you complain if you started watching hockey games in the 2nd period and the team winning at that point ended up winning 62% of the time?
As an aside, the driver lineup in f1 right now is the strongest driver lineup of all time. 1991 is the only year in the entire history of formula one that could even be considered in the same breath, and it isn't even close.
mfw no Schumi
>>63808536
you turn into a toad? I don't get it
>>63808463
I'd say that 98's MP4-13 was much faster than the Ferrari, 2000 was the first dominant Ferrari
>>63808463
>driver lineup in f1 right now is the strongest driver lineup of all time.
Alonso, Vettel, ????
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2512119/Ron-Dennis-tried-convince-Mercedes-sign-Lewis-Hamilton.html
>McLaren Honda - ALO/BUT
>ICE: 12 of 4 / 11 of 4
>TC: 11 of 4 / 12 of 4
>MGU-H: 12 of 4 / 11 of 4
>MGU-K: 8 of 4 / 10 of 4
>ES: 5 of 4 / 4 of 4
>CE: 7 of 4 / 6 of 4
>ICE: 300% / 275%
>TC: 275% / 300%
>MGU-H: 300% / 275%
>MGU-K: 200% / 250%
>ES: 125% / 100%
>CE: 175% / 150%
>>63808087
In the press conference he was like man fuck it I'll just link it
https://youtu.be/zlEoZm43rJA?t=135
>>63808952
i didn't include 1998, and of course there are edge cases like 2009 and 2007 as well, i wasn't being exhaustive
>>63809023
some equivalent tier lists, 1 is all-time greats, 2 is potential champions, 3 is potential challengers
>1991
1: senna, prost, schumacher
2: piquet, mansell, hakkinen
3: berger, herbert, wendlinger, alesi
>2015
1: vettel, alonso, hamilton, verstappen, sainz, ricciardo, bottas, kvyat
2: raikkonen, massa, grosjean, magnussen, button
3: maldonado, rosberg, hulkenberg, perez
and thats not even considering the crazy amount of talent in the feeder categories right now
>>63803456
looks as if a kid drew her face onto her skull with markers.
>>63805207
>villeneuve
i wish
not even close tho
>>63809594
IMO I'd have Rosberg at least in the second tier, Bottas, and Sainz have 0 reason for being up there, Massa is more likely to take the WDC than Bottas.
>>63809675
yeah i could agree with everything you said except about sainz
the 1991 tier 3 could also have modena, brundle, capelli, comas, and martini too, and maybe bernard zanardi caffi and gachot, its not really an exact science but the point is that we're spoiled for driving talent now
>>63809675
>Massa is more likely to take the WDC than Bottas.
lol
do you seriously belive this loserbernd
>>63809817
Honestly Yes. I think he deserved the 2008 WDC, and look, he's nearly matching Bottas, who should be wiping the floor with him.
>>63809804
With Sainz, I guess I don't see him as a WDC, more a Bottas style driver, with pace, but not enough to beat out the likes of his competitors. Time will tell I guess.
>>63809392
jesus honda.. get your shit together
according to motorsport.com the 2017 regulations have been aproved by all teams
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/new-2017-f1-aero-package-has-been-agreed-symonds/
It was mostly from the Red Bull draft...
I wonder if they are willing to go 1 season without any proper results to invest everything in 2017
How popular is F1 in your country /f1/? Pic related is pretty much how it went here.
>>63810108
sainz is actually really really good. you live in europe, you should go watch him drive in person sometime and take note of how consistent he is and how late he brakes compared to the other drivers while still being smooth as shit
he's just scared of crashing is all, 99% of why his results aren't mindblowing is because of how many spots he loses in the first turn, have you ever seen him touch another car?? confidence will come with experience though and he'll be golden
>>63810108
>Honestly Yes. I think he deserved the 2008 WDC, and look, he's nearly matching Bottas, who should be wiping the floor with him.
Bottas missed the first race because he tore his back and it was affecting him for the first half of the season
That and he's had bad luck in general this year (taken out by Kimi in Russia, ERS failing in Italy, Williams not letting him through in Silverstone, two suspension failures in the same day in US, brake issues in Austria, given a puncture in Hungary etc) while Felipe has had good luck up until Singapore, barring a couple of races earlier in the season, and even then Felipe has mostly been the cause of the bad luck he's had this year. Plus Bottas has been consistently 2-6 tenths faster than Massa all throughout the second half of the season - even in Brazil which is a track Massa is historically GOAT at
Anyway, Bottas would have a healthy 50-point lead over Felipe if they'd had equal luck. Just like Verstappen's gap to Sainz would be much smaller if Carlos didn't have such shit luck (although Max would certainly be ahead), Alonso would have double Jenson's points and Ricciardo would be trouncing Kvyat instead of being behind him. Judging how well one driver is doing against another purely on the points they've scored is just silly desu.
>>63810326
late breaking isn't really indicative of driving skill.
>>63810483
>while still being smooth as shit
the point is he achieves the same (or higher) exit speeds as people while carrying more speed to the apex. his braking phases aren't just later, they're more compressed. he must integrate them with his cornering better somehow than other trail brakers do
>>63810483
Thanks for telling us, Marcus, but we already knew that.
>>63810232
F1 in the US is mostly like this:
Hey anon what sports do you like?
>I only really watch racing
Oh yeah like NASCAR?
>Formula 1 mostly
Oh yeah like the Indy 500? That's cool.
> ;_;
>>63810912
>>63810232
My friends struggle to even change their washer fluid
One of them swears that baseball is more exciting than racing
>>63810632
Underated
>>63811111
impressive
>>63811111
THOSE QUINTS
>>63811111
>getting five consecutively
>>63811089
Friends are overrated..
>>63811111
congratulations, now Ericsson will die in Abu Dhabi
>>63810232
It's rather popular, and it was when it was on open TV (not premium cable)
nowadays you spend most of the time explaining rules, engines, and why the pitstops are so damn fast
Litterally this is the only thing that makes people go "what the fuck", most of them are used to refueling and they lose it when teams do those 1.5 seconds pitstops
>>63811249
And nothing of value was lost.
>>63811453
ericsson is underrated
>>63811281
I'm with you. My brother sometimes comes over to watch f1 and he asks the same thing everytime he comes over.
>what is drs?
>didn't they have this kers thing? where did that go?
>how fast can a f1 car go?
>why are they not driving at Zandvoort?
>how many cilinders do these engines have?
>why can't they refuel anymore?
>i heard they are gonna bring back refueling.
>which car is the fastest?
>what are <input color> tires?
>its incredible how they perform those pitstops
>why did that guy get a penalty?
>you have a speedlimit in the pit?
>how high is that speed limit?
>what do you mean you can't cross the white line after the pit?
>why are the playing 2 anthems?
>man those cars are really flimsy
But yeah atleast I have some company during boring races so that is a plus.
>>63811833
To be honest, all those are perfectly alright questions for someone who isn't an enthusiast.
I don't know any other sport that constantly changes its rules like F1 does. It puts people off, because most don't have time nor the will to learn everything again each season.
It's one of the reasons why F1 is dying
>>63805073
I don't want more overtaking. I want cars that are relished by the drivers, even if this comes at the cost of the fans. WEC can go be the most popular motorsport for all I care.
>>63813637
I don't trust what the young crop of drivers want, I just want cars that look like they actually need to be controlled and aren't technical masterpieces that focus on perfect traction on corner exit and the latest possible braking points. The best spectacle is when the braking zones are longer and allow better drivers to work the turn
>>63812178
>>63811833
>who's the best driver?
>is it just the best car that always wins?
>what car company is williams?
>what does the red light on the back of the cars mean?
>what does track limits mean?
>how do they know where to turn? (at monaco, singapore)
>have you ever seen somebody die?
>are there any canadians?
>why don't they block each other on the straights?
>how do you know who's who if there are two of each car?
>how old do you have to be to race in f1?
>how do you get points?/what does a championship mean?
>he's retiring?? (confusing retiring from the race with retiring from their career)
>>63815780
thats what f1 has now, that was a huge point of the 2014 changes
>>63815904
>what does the red light on the back of the cars mean?
They aren't brake lights, it means the car is harvesting energy and may be slowing down a little bit
t. Martin Brundle
>>63815904
>>63808463
Why are you defending this shitty era of F1?
>>63817666
some people just like to disagree with the general populous
the same type of people who enjoy the smell of their own farts
>>63811204
God, the F248 was sexy af.
>>63810232
Most people don't care for it. They think 'driving in circles' is not interesting to watch, nor challenging as a sport. They'd rather watch faggotpaddle.
>>63817666
i'm not defending it, i'm telling you your opinion is shit
go watch gt3 if you wanna see slow cars and even fields
>>63818484
Except the racing in those years was utter shit. Go back to the late 90s, and you have cars with similar pace to today's, and more exciting racing than today, while looking much better in terms of battles.
The issue is not one of simple speed, it's a variety of factors. Plus, most of the 'impression of speed' that you remember is the difference in filming technique. Before the advent of wide-angle lenses and HD standard filming, the F1 races used to be shot in a very different manner. As a car came into the shot, they'd zoom into it, and as it got closer to the camera, they'd zoom out quick, then go back towards the car as it moved away from the camera. This effectively doubled the impression of speed given by those cars.
Nowadays though, the wide-angle lenses are more focused on the advertising hoardings in the extra spaces behind the cars in the frame, and hence the frames are held much more stable, removing quite a bit of the impression of speed.
>>63818697
camera techniques may have contributed sure, but cornering speed actually is what makes it look so fast. watch onboards if you want, it still looks way faster. i agree the old cameras make everything look better, but the cars would still look a lot faster today if they cornered faster. compare 2008 or even 2013 to 2014
the racing in which years were shit? it was shittiest in the early 2000s. racing in the 80s and 90s was way worse than now though, go pick a random race from then and theres a 70% chance it'd be worse than japan or canada or australia or whatever the worst race this year was. the romantic idea people have about how f1 used to be constant wheel to wheel excitement just doesn't reflect reality at all
i haven't watched any races from before 1978 but people say the racing got shit in 1969 when aerodynamics started playing a huge role & i believe it, i've watched the stuff in that 1978-2014 torrent and there weren't any years in there that struck me as having better racing than now, just cooler cars, cooler drivers, and less bullshit
theres a video of stirling moss in 1979 complaining about how the f1 used to be better and that the cars "these days" are shit, this sorta complaining is timeless cause people always romanticize the past
>>63802444
Ain't nothing attractive about roasties unless there's horseradish on top
Nico Rosberg is better than Lewis Hamilton
Here's my filthy pleb idea for how to fix F1, at least on the car side.
>Sucker cars
Yes yes very pleb. Stay with me for a sec.
>Similar system to the BT42, must be linked to the main engine in a way that the fan is always on the same gear ratio in relation to engine RPM
>Set limit for amount of space for the skirted area of the car. This should, if I'm not a complete idiot, make it pretty easy to level downforce for everyone.
>You could standardize the actual fan and hosing to save costs, if you wanted.
>Ban wings.
>Seriously, ban wings, and mandate a maximum downforce level that the body of the car can create and also a minimum drag coefficient. Take traditional aero out of the game completely.
>Engine isn't that important, as long as fuel conservation isn't big. Could be NA or turbo, KERS or no KERS.
>Tires should be designed to operate well at higher slip angles. Possibly make them really hard, but none of this tiny operating window bullshit. That is the number one thing that needs to be done away with.
>One tire manufacture is fine.
Could do other fun things like ban power steering. I'd also get rid of 'engine maps', because manufactures have proven they will do whatever they can to get pseudo launch control and/or TCS.
>>63822882
As a human being. Not as a racer
>muh best car is the best driver
Great pseudo-sport
Best anime regarding F1 lads?
>>63823765
Capeta was bretty good, m8
>>63823496
>What is the 2012 season?
2.5 bongs until fp1?
>>63824512
Yep
Literally zero hype for this one.
>>63824678
only watching because i'm bored t-b-h
this was the worst season since the schumacher era
>>63825089
I'd say 2011 runs it close.
>>63825151
Cars in 2011 were louder and better looking at least.
>>63825216
How exactly do this year's cars look worse than 2011? There are no dick noses, and the low noses look sleeker than the high ones IMO.
I'll concede the sound thing, even though I'm not really bothered by it.
>>63825268
I just think the cars looked faster. It was before noses get too high.
Also, this years has a few good looking cars, but most of them look weird. Lotus and Mercedes look good. All the others have those chubby clit noses that just look wrong, Redbull probably did it better but its nothing spectacular. Ferrari is also too long.
FP1 When?
>tfw missed ROC
>>63825524
45 bings
Just woke up (its 6am here) for my 7am class and found out it was cancelled.
Maximum comfy f1 time in bed today.
>>63825549
>my 7am class
M8
>>63825592
Yeah its shit. And it usually ends 4pm too.
But its normal here t b h.
Who do you think is the humblest driver on the grid lads?
>>63825688
i never thought i'd say this, but vettel
>>63825688
Massa
>>63825696
Same here anon.
>>63810232
There's a small dedicated community that loves discussing it at least, and they host live watches of races in certain bars then proceed to go karting right after. Most likely drunk go karting too.
Outside of that it's practically nothing. Nobody gives a fuck about sports that are not Beanerpunch or Apehoop here (along with the very occasional heem).
are the Saudis going to massacre all those dissidents during the opening ceremony of the GP? those savages
>>63825688
Lewis is. Mainly due to his dedicated Bible studying and worship of our LORD #44 #Blessed #StillRising #Humble
Ace?
>fp1 is on
>the weekend will be over VERY soon
>>63810232
I don't now about the whole country, but in my surroundings I'm pretty much the only one who follows F1. Occasionally I see a friend who's also a fan, but he's a huge Lotus/Grosjean fanboy, and he pretty much literally says what he has heard on Sky. It's kinda weird, it's like hearing Brundle speak through his mouth.
>>63823250
if you could have higher slip angles that would just mean that you could get more rotation without breaking traction, but it'd be the same in that once you're sliding the contact patch will just undeflect and you'll be scrubbing speed instead of turning or accelerating
those yachts are fucking huge
Ted Kravitz confirms newnew spark plugs
>>63825688
Hulkenberg. Maybe even too humble for his own good
Morning l/a/ds
Thats an aero rake, davidson fyi senpai
sky already pushing "verstappen is our next super star" meme
>>63825901
He's not british though.
>>63825901
what do u think of max verstappen as a driver
Last based Romain race for lotus ;_;. We are fucked next year, shit engine and no real drivers.
>>63825935
talented but only in F1 because of nepotism
there's plenty of other talented kids that deserve a seat
if you want my real opinion, all these old fucks that aren't competitive(kimi, button, alonso) need to give up their seats for aspiring WDCs
>>63825935
He is Kobayashi tier, divebombing all around, but unlike Kobayashi he's not likable at all.
>>63825870
Morning
>Jenson Button says Fernando Alonso has been a tougher McLaren Formula 1 team-mate in 2015 than Lewis Hamilton was during their time together.
Nigger BTFO
We'll have fast cars again guys.
what the fuck is with Saudis and their tents? that have like thousands of fucking tents that they rent to people who vacation there and they made the grandstands look like a giant fuckhuge tent
Will BBC ever stop talking about Verstappen every 5 minutes? It even annoys me as Dutch.
>>63826212
BUT HE IS FUTURE WORLD CHAMPION!
>>63826212
aargh, are they at it again? In Brazil it was the worst so far! That first overtake from Verstappen in the Senna S where he just closed the door in the second part was "a brilliant move!!!" When (can't remember who) did the same overtake a few laps later, but without having to close the door at the end, it was barely mentioned.
>€7000 fine for Lewis Hamilton for speeding in the pitlane
>>63825688
Hamilton.
>>63825776
Is he actually religious or is it just for show, so that he seems more like Senna?
Lotus can into meme again
imagine if the FIA limited drivers to only 5 years
>>63826285
I've been wondering about that too. I've got the feeling he's religious just because Senna was. I simply cannot understand how someone who isn't a complete idiot can be so religious these days.
>Button reports that he's struggling with locking fronts on his McLaren. The 2009 world champion is currently P11.
MEOWSIVE UNDERSTEER
HAM ROS RAI
ROS
RAI
Coming soon
>>63826349
i'm an established hamilton(been a fan since '07) but this would piss me off in a big way
>>63826349
ayyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>63826349
he'll have to die first
>palmer
We had to wait until the very end, but McLaren didn't disappoint: Alonso lost power.
>internet f1 discussion
>The Briton (Button) of course is also ahead in the standings - unless Alonso can pull off a big result on Sunday, he'll be out-scored by a team mate for the first time in his entire career.
Leave_*insert_teammate*_to_me.jpg
>>63826570
r/formula1 is firmly in the hands of the FIA
>>63826570
Imagine how much fun those guys will have when we'll have a non MWL season again.
>>63826570
Imagine if they watched a decent season like 2010 or 12, this season was so shit I've started losing interest.
>>63826589
imagine all the posts here that will prove the predictable nature of this board
also why are sky's opinions always so reddit-tier?
http://www.motorsport.com/formula-e/news/formula-e-unveils-new-support-series-for-driverless-cars/
holy fcuking shit
>>63826757
McLaren should look into that. It would save them like 50 million dollars per season.
>>63826789
i get what you mean haha
>>63826757
>ROBORACE
At least there is comedy gold pontial.
>>63826757
imagine if codemasters entered that
they'd come last every race after making contact with thin air and breaking the front wing and then parking in an escape road for half a lap before driving round at 60mph
slightly mad studios would make their ai incapable of not cornercutting and would flip over several times during the race
>>63826757
that could be so cool if it were someone else running it
>driver safety not an issue
>550 km/h cornering
>multiple changes of direction to block
>no ugly noses & crash structures
even the fact that your design doesn't have to fit a driver opens up so many possibilities
>>63826829
POWER UPS
TOP FUCKING KEK (if true).
>#Ferrari boss #arrivabene to @SkyF1GP cameraman working pit lane during #F1 #AbuDhabiGP FP1."Do that again & I'll cut your fucking head off
from darren heath - some sort of whiney photographer.
>>63826847
quite fitting considering the saudis are beheading over 50 people this weekend
>>63826829
>no mirrors
>no steering wheel
>no pedals
>asymmetric braking
>asymmetric acceleration
>four-wheel steer
>each wheel independently rotating
>no restrictions on aerodynamic elements
>moveable aero
>races through forests & on the edges of cliffs
>races in space
>upside-down sections
>90 degree inclines
>obstacles in the middle of the road
>avus-like bankings
>tracks like this
>>63826847
what did the camera man do?
>>63827078
broke maurizio's fucking head
>>63826867
>abu dhabi
>saudis
>american education
15 Little Bongs till FP2.
>that Marussia drift at the end of P1
heaps hektik brah
>>63826757
>Robovettel wins lol
is the hd stream ded forever?
>>63827283
Yes
Fucking Davis Cup
>>63827283
I reported it to the internet police.
TANTI AGURI RICKY
that was pretty based desu
Based Vettel
why didn't the thread just explode?
>>63827318
what was this cap from again?
>>63827364
nobody watches abu dhouble
>>63827353
>tanti aguri
Since the nose designs have been so ugly this year, I came up with a quality fix to make it prettier while adding aerodynamic performance.
Wich on family?
>>63827369
Jessi Slaughter
>>63827318
*cyber police
>>63827391
*which one
Damn I shouldn't have been smoking this dank weed™ and eating all those Doritos™.
>>63827353
https://my.mixtape.moe/whdvxw.webm
>halal williams
>>63826757
cue stupid race car drivers thinking this is a great idea (eg di grassi)
>>63827129
all the same to me
TRIPLE PURPLE SECTOR
>>63827416
>cue Hamilton saying he wants to program the AI himself
I think Mercedes can win this race:3
>>63827429
t. george w bush
how is commenting with crofty today?
the Smedley-to-Haas rumours from Brazil have been thoroughly debunked
Italian press confirmed for illiterate halfbreeds
>Charlie-romeo-alpha-papa
ayy
Brundle reports Jenson has massive understeer
>>63827429
the UAE are probably the most progressive arab country after Lebanon, women don't have to wear hijabs for example, but they're still strict on alcohol
>>63827551
sierra-hotel-india-tango mike-echo-mike-echo tango-bravo-hotel
>>63827567
its brundle's mike-echo-mike-echo, not mine, btw
Sector 3 is a mess, desu
>>63827404
>Not drinking Mountain Dew™, while using your Xbox One.
>>63826844
>Arm the cars with weapons
>Broadcast it
It would practically print money at that point.
did i just get rick rolled?
>>63827599
a bit gay tbqh fám
this grand prix just got rick rolled
>QEQ RICK GASTLYEY LELELELEL XD
>>63827610
It's Jenson tho. It's probably impossible to say no.
>chairman of prodrive, former chairman of aston martin, is in the paddock
>prodrive are based in banbury
>manor are based next door to prodrive
>manor are switching to mercedes engines next year
>manor provide a better return of investment than force india
Aston Martin Manor Racing confirmed
Was that David Richards chatting to Jackie Stewart in the paddock?
I love the man for sacking Jacques Villeneuve at B.A.R
>>63827663
Jordan comeback when?
>>63827719
Never. Stay Dead. I hate EJ.
>>63827719
when the BBC have to release EJ's family from the dungeon of Broadcasting House due to budget cuts
>>63827733
2016 then?
>>63827725
Heinz-Harald pls
>Vijay Mallya has 4.5 million followers on twitter
>Lewlew only has 3 million
>Indian people can afford smartphones but not toilets
>>63827745
Do you really want him back on the grid? I was so mad when he entered his cars on the grid after telling the other team bosses he would stick with them at Indy in 2005. Because he entered it Minardi was forced to enter as well.
Could you have imagined the meme of that race with only the two Ferrari's racing? I almost want to believe that after 75%, Ross would have retired the two cars to save the engines. The shitshow would have been insane.
Why are Red Bull not allowed to badge the engine as a Mecachrome, and then have "Mecachrome" develop the engine? Like if they can't get an engine, and they want to do it on their own, why should they be stopped? I agree that Mercedes and Ferrari are well within their rights to not supply them an engine, but if they are willing to put up the cash, and do the work within the current regulations, I think that's fair.
I-I'll l-love you Watson
>>63827809
Jordan sold the team prior to the 2005 season. Kolles was in charge at Indy.
>>63827840
because the FIA hates engine development
the "Mecachrome" engine wouldn't be bound by the token system until it was homologated, so as such RB could develop it to their heart's content while Renault, Merc, Ferrari and Honda would be stuck where they are.
It's a complete bullshit excuse from the FIA since that isn't outlined in the rules - there's no mention of taking an existing engine, renaming it and developing it as much as you like being illegal - and Todt can't be bothered to close his own loopholes. If RB want to do it they should be allowed to.
>>63827877
So if they do it, and then after they feel ready "homologate" the engine, could the FIA do anything? Or would it be like the flexi wings where their static load test didn't show the defection, and they just can't do anything about it?
>>63827759
A smart phone is a pretty cheap investment compared to laying down plumbing or paying for a service that empties your outhouse/dry toilet regularly.
Also a smart phone can help you pay for itself through work etc. whilst a toilet is just helpful for not dying of fecal related diseases.
>>63827870
IIRC, Eddie Jordan was still team principal, just no longer the owner
>>63827900
if there's an approval process for homologation it would certainly be rejected, and if they brought it to melbourne anyway they'd fail scrutineering.
/f1/ general - specsavers edition
>>63827900
Self Checked
>>63827922
Checked. Tbh senpai, this is utter nonsense. I'd really like to see Red Bull have a fighting chance, this is pretty fair overall I think.
Crazy that Force India were battling McLaren at the start of the year and right now they're fighting Williams and Red Bull to be the third-fastest team
>>63827944
The post checking checks is checked while rising.
>>63827944
You missed one lad
>>63827877
>>63827955
Checked. What is this black magic senpai?
>>63827962
Sacrificed Hungarybro to the migrants 2bh
>>63827913
No; EJ was out after 2004: http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/teams/56
>>63827994
Just telling you how it is bruh.
The thing that actually baffles me is how can India afford nukes when they have people literally shitting on the streets.
>>63827994
wrong reply
meant for
>>63827972
>>63828014
We specialize in doing things for cheap. Our Mars orbiter had a budget smaller than many Hollywood movies.
rosberg and vettel looks promising from their long runs
hamilton is driving like shit though, could make the race slightly interesting
>>63810232
>How popular is F1 in your country /f1/?
It's only really popular in Quebec, the rest of the country and where I live only cares about refpuck. Fortunatly my parents are french and were fans back in the day.
>>63828014
A nuke is just a really big poo for a street a long way away.
>>63826757
This could end up being more popular than formula e. And formula e is already pretty great.
>>63828064
>the city of leddit
>>63829751
>Webber doesn't have the talent of Rosberg
>despite outscoring him in the same car
>>63829776
>Expecting anything beyond Hamilton Cock Gargling
So are you guys happy with the decision of >moar dunfurce for 2017?
Gotta say I'm really pleased with it. F1 is about the fastest cars. That's it.
>>63830104
I won't say anything until I've seen the effects on the track.
I probably won't be paying as much attention to F1 from that season on anyway, considering 2016 is likely to be Massa and Raikkonen's final season.
>>63830104
according to niggas on skysports pat symonds said following the car on the front will likely to be harder which means less overtaking so fuck that if true
>>63830104
Pretty much this. I remember the moaning at the start of 2014. More downforce = faster lap times. I don't really care for the whole argument that the driver needs to have a car with no downforce so we "can see them work" we gave them more torque and they adapted.
F1's never going to be NASCAR or LeMans. It's about being a technical tour de force, and the best drivers will find a way past. I was looking back to 2006, and seeing Schumacher drive through the field from last to 4th at Brazil reinforced that fact for me.
Also weren't they increasing the diffuser as well, sure it will create more turbulent air, but giving the cars more overall downforce should mean running on a different line could be possible.
>>63830153
I wonder if he's just pissed since Williams whole concept is based on a low downforce package.
>>63830153
Pat is a cunt. Probably spreading false rumors because Williams cant into downforce properly.
>>63830242
He's knowledgeable and doesn't really tend to lie though. I had my own suspicions about him, but since Massa confronted him early on in 2014 and confirmed that he has nothing to hide I've changed my mind on him.
WTCC race 1 on eurosport in aboot 5 minutes
expect spaghetti and citroen wins lol
this is the first 'night' race in the series and there's another one tonight
>>63830267
If you say so pat. Shouldn't you be in Abu Dhabi already?
Anyone have a good stream that isn't henno or ace?
>>63830297
Are you still buttmad you got dropped from Renault for being a twat, Mr. Piquet Jr.?
>>63830691
FUCK OFF PAT. YOU COST FELIPE BABY THE WDC.
Just wanted to share something with you.
http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjWMf16q0TjE&start1=13&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVAJsWeH_Tzs&start2=10&authorName=snoopsagan
>>63830809
Except he didn't. Massa himself confronted Pat at the start of 2014 and confirmed that Symonds had no involvement in Crashgate. It's in one of the early 2014 issues of F1Racing.
Briatore and Alonso are the masterminds.
>>63826757
this will probably end up being a lot more dull than people think
>>63830855
Besides that, it was nothing to do with crashgate.
It was a Ferrari fuck-up in the pits. Other teams handled it fine.
wtcc race 2 is happening
I swear there will be spaghetti this time
>>63831429
Why is there a safety car?? Just tuned in
>>63831560
catsburg and d'aste came together and their cars are in dangerous positions
chilton was also hit but he managed to continue the race
>>63803520
You go and simrace in the winter
Other than that, theres only Formula E...?
God those civics are ugly as fuck
Holy shit guys I just figured it out
>Monza Mercedes gets busted for illegal tire pressures
RACES AFTER MONZA IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER
>Singapore Merc total shit, Ham retires
>Suzuka Rosberg outqualifies Ham, Ham gets lead due to betaberg 1st corner antics
>Russia Rosberg outqualifies Ham and retires from P1
>USA Rosberg outqualifies Ham, Ham forces Rosberg wide, Rosberg overtakes, betaberg loses P1 due to mistake. Mistake excluded, Nico had greater pace throughout race and quali. Actually pulled away in the lead etc. Dunno what caused the mistake and I'm not defending him, but overall he was faster that weekend
>Mexico Ham BTFO
>Abu Dhabi Ham about to get BTFO in quali at the very least
HAMILTON CONFIRMED 100% CARBABBY to the point he is getting beaten by ROSBERG just as soon as he can't set the tire pressures illegally high. All his victories post-Monza were either lucky or forceful to the point that if Rosberg had pulled the same moves on Ham he would have been crucified by Mercedes and the media. HIS TIRE PRESSURES ROSE TOO HIGH. NO MORE RISING.
Did he cheat his way to the championship? Were the Merc tire pressures illegally high throughout Hamilton's winning and quali streak as well?
>le epic blessed quali man
>suddenly loses 5 maybe 6 qualis in a row to a glorified midfield driver who is a bit above average in qualifying
EPIC
HAMILTON A SHIT fucking bitch
>>63832013
Take it easy, Gimi.
>>63832013
What a magnificent post. Just simply ebin.
>>63832013
Hamilton was pretty lucky with some of Rosenberg's car failures.
>>63832013
this
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where do I get the old formula races from this year? I missed both
>>63832549
formula e*
even the bastardised martini livery is GOAT
>>63833161
>not calling it the Codemasters livery
>>63833172
it looks absolutely flipping dogshite in the game
>>63832549
here:
http://racing4everyone.eu/formula-e-201516/
>>63826969
Congratulations, you just described this perfectly.
One day anon, one day......
>>63826829
>2 cars have tangle at 500km/h
>cause another 1955 le mans tier accident
good night /f1/
>>63802785
I kind of like it; Reminds me of the last Group C cars that were racing when I was a kid.
>>63833989
obviously there wouldn't be any people in the stands at a driverless car race, it would only be robots watching
>>63834945
well it would at least make the content on r9k a bit fresher
>>63835005
hopefully a crash takes out all of the robots
>>63826969
We Cyber For/m/ula now bitches!
I wonder what would happen if Robin wanted to get into F1 and was good enough for it. Kimi's said numerous times that he wants his son to have nothing to do with the sport, but I bet Robin's gonna have none of that if he ends up being interested in it anyway.
/F1/ pls... I need a good stream for sunday
Williams' Osteo needs cheering up lads
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06rf90c
Should be good lads.
>>63835845
Hoping for some high quality banter desu
>>63835843
She is a slut with a tramp stamp
She can go slobber all over Valerie's cock if she want's cheering up.
>>63833161
Doesnt Rexona deodorant contain alcohol as well? How can they advertise it in a haram country??
FP3 in 5 hours lads
zzzzzzzzzz
>>63832013
The pressures were too low, not too high suomi.
And Cheatberg cheated too.
how many boings until f3 lads
lotta hype for this race desu lads
>>63806808
>Not sure where you are getting this from.
From the fact that there's only been 3 different drivers to win a race this season, and NONE of the victories have come outside of a P3 qual.
As for "modern" F1, I understand it perfectly. It's a motorsport that has implemented rules, be it equipment or otherwise, that has practically eliminated competition on the track.
F1 is little more than an expensive game of "follow the leader".
>>63833161
>white liveries
>ever not shit
Pick one and only one.
Is Rush a good movie?
Does it properly portray Hunt and Lauda or is it blown of the water?
>>63841830
it's aight. prolly more ppl watching Rush than F1 atm desu
>>63808463
There are changes that can be made to the aero package, the tires, and the engines, that make the cars more difficult to drive, which means driver skill would be more important than technology. Reduce the downforce, the traction, and the power, and it suddenly becomes a contest of who can slide their cars through the turns the best, who can time and use a draft to pass, and who has the most consistent gas/brake timing. That's what racing is about.
>>63841811
> Brawn was shit
> implying
gonna have some coffee to stay up for quali desu lads baka dunno why i bother its like watching paint dry desu
>>63842224
P3 is in 3 hours, quali is in 8, right?
I have a spreadsheet with every race's practice, quali, and start time converted to my local time, but for some reason it's fucked up for Abu Dhabi and says P3 should've started an hour ago.
>>63842436
i'm pretty sure fp3 starts in 2 hours and quali in 4 hours
>>63842467
According to the F1 website, FP3 is at 14:00 and quali is at 17:00, in local Abu Dhabi time, which is 3 hours and 6 hours from now, respectively. That 8 was a typo in my previous post.
Is the F1 website wrong? If so, where do you guys get the most up-to-date info?
>>63842467
Quali can't be 4, because there's a minimum of 2 hours of gap between any two sessions (i.e. End of first to beginning of second)
>>63842583
>>63842611
i get my times from r/formula1 to be honest
>>63842583
3 & 6 is right, m8, the other guy's got something wrong.
>>63842625
I checked whenisf1on, they've got 3&6 too, Ameribro. Maybe leddit got it wrong.
>>63842647
>whenisf1on
Fuck I didn't know that already existed. I was in the process of building the framework for a site exactly like this. Thanks for saving me the time.
I'll go back to building my "what if [x]" drivers' championship site now.
>>63841978
Brawn was shit imo desu
>>63843367
Brawn was the king boss
he singlehandedly carried five shit teams to WDCs
>>63842718
godspeed, friend
>>63843382
Talking liveries here, mate
>>63843402
o-oh.. ok then
yes i agree
>>63825959
>we
what is your role in the Lotus F1 team?
>>63843382
They're talking about liveries, m8. Although 'singlehandedly' is a lot of exaggeration.
Tbh I didn't think the Brawn livery was too good. The plain white of Stewart GP in the late 90s was bretty good though
>>63842625
Qualifying starts at 8AM eastern
fp3 is in 1 bong
quali is in 4 bongs
gp2 race 1 is in 5 bongs 40 bings
Acestream where?
>>63843383
>godspeed, friend
on the giving up on the timing site, or building the championship tracker site?
>>63843454
02c14347959f78d8bf18f898c56f429ab5a44c7b
>>63843469
the later
>>63843469
>02c14347959f78d8bf18f898c56f429ab5a44c7b
>SD
The fuck is this trash?
Good morning /f1/.
>>63843529
HD stream is kill afaik
Call the Doctor, he might have an HD stream from the TARDIS.
>>63843674
Morning Texas
12d09cfefcda499a13455cc61fc348c20ce3137d
BBC2 HD, showing P2 atm
>>63843794
https://youtu.be/v1iuSmZHcwY?t=3m19s
Thanks
>Lee will never cuddle with you during race sessions
>>63843867
i herd she ed booty
>>63843867
she's stupid wearing a baggy blouse that hides her waist as it accentuates those delicious hips.
Have you seen Ocon's season?
Why does Manor even bother with FP?
What can they even begin to learn from a 2 year old engine that was shit when it was new?
>>63843960
Not much
I think it's incredible that they are still here though, let along competing next season with Mercedes PUs and a new chassis. Can't wait. I'm from the same part of the world as Manor too so I love them.
>>63843944
>all those p2's
Secondberg 2.0?
>everyone going on about Haas vs Toro Rosso
>not Sauber
Sauber will be their pace more or less, which for a first season will be good
>>63843960
the drivers wanna learn the track
>>63841830
One of my favourite movie, great acting and sound effects.
>>63843986
that's what the simulation is for, they have already run the track hundreds of times on it by now.
>>63843975
sOcond
>>63844012
>Manor
>decent simulator
Eins auswählen, bitte.
vetlel
>vetlel
>>63843985
This is the first time I've read about Toro Rosso being Haas' "rival" next season. It was Haas vs. Sauber most of the year.
>>63844034
More than good enough just to learn the corners.
>Perez one stopping on Sunday
Confirmed sneaking on the podium
>>63844097
he's already had his one podium of the year la
>Hamilspin
F1 is such a joke.
'Ambassadors' always banging on about how it's relevant to road car development yet the engines are falling apart and exploding after doing a thousand miles...pathetic.
DIETER SPOTTED
>hamlelton
>you will never drive for Manor
hold me
Why is everything so slow today?
>>63844197
most people must have had a busy week at work and are still in bed :^)
>>63844183
You could get their Formula Renault 2.0 Northern European Cup drive if you tried hard enough
>>63844197
Last boring race in a series that has already been decided.
It's also free practice.
>>63843420
best fan
>>63844197
because it's free practice at a boring track and the season was decided 3 races ago
CARMEN
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>>63844241
Why are you a Lotus fan?
The team is just a name now, none of it is actually lotus as it used to be during it's heyday.
>>63844241
>implying
>>63844265
group lotus and lotus cars wanted the name back in f1 so it's not like they're just a bootleg
>>63844265
I'm not a lotus fan but an Enstone fan.
can we all agree that 2016 is alonso's year
>>63844288
look at that fucking mess
>lel caterham
>>63844291
Quite clearly Jenson's to be honest family
>>63844290
who is left?
flava flav is gone
pat symonds is gone
bob bell is gone
all the decent drivers are gone
>>63844290
>Enstone
That might be even more pathetic, some shitty village best known for having a RAF base.
shit
i had shit to do
i just got here
only 9 minutes left
shit
>>63844325
it's probably nicer than where you live you cheeky little shit
>>63844347
nothing noteworthy, Tbh.
You didn't missed anything.
>>63844347
didn't miss a thing
>>63843975
>Seocond
>>63844347
That Hamilton/Rosberg blocking just then is the highlight
>>63844355
LANDAN TOWN M8.
>>63844321
>federico gastaldi
>gerard "adrian sutil hates him" lopez
>matthew carter
>nick chester
>that benneton mechanic who caught on fire
>jolyon's pappy
that's about it desu
>>63844365
bishopsgate here
whereabouts are you lad?
fancy some bum sex?
>>63844356
>>63844357
>>63844364
i got this fuckhuge chicken salad too eat
what do i watch while i eat it now
it will take me at least 30 bings to eat
>THE NEW BOY
>>63844390
There's some test cricket on if you can handle the shitposting mess that is /cric/
>>63844386
>bishopsgate
Too close for comfort, no boipussy for u.
>EDIOTS
>>63844402
>test cricket
>>63844291
>Alonso has been shouting all year how it doesn't hurt more to be 16th than to finish 2nd
>'finishing 2nd or 3rd probably hurts more'
>Alonso confirmed to drop out of the top 3 on purpose unless it's p1 in 2016 and beyond
>>63844430
I only watch for the bants in /cric/
Aussies roasting poo peelanders is always a draw
>>63844402
what the fuck is cricket
>>63844460 he actually went over the absolute madman
>ros ham vet per
>ros engine seppuku
>ham and vet dsq for illegal engine
>cheeky occasional win man
>>63844446
Cricket for englishmen is like what baseball is to the yanks.
Used to be our national sport during WWII but everyone realised it was boring as fuck and switched to "football" instead.
>>63844288
>mfw Lotus was involved in almost every race class in the early 10s and then failed in almost every race class and dropped out within 2 years
>>63844447
it's like baseball but even dull and with fewer adverts
>>63844469
fucking lel
>>63844447
Baseball with a square bat but you throw the ball at some wooden sticks behind the batter to try and get them out.
Oh, and the ball is heavier and much more dangerous because kek
>>63843423
Tbh I started watching f1 is 2009. So for a newbie the brawn did look cool and always will
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