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>Back to maps sub-edition
Official CFP top 6 as of 11/24:
1. Clempson
2. Bammer
3. Oklahomo
4. tybi
5. >spairtins
6. bootyblasters
Don't forget to check out the **GAME OF THE WEEK** featuring #3 Iowa @ #5 Nebraska on ABC for the "Star Wars™ Showdown" don't forget to dress up if you're heading to the game and of course go see Star Wars™ opening December 18th 2015 at midnight.
Bama.
2. Oklahoma
3. Iowa
4. Clempson (Very insecure about their school and their ranking btw)
5. Nebraska
6. BootyBlasters
7. Northwest Missouri St.
8. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
9. Harvard
10. Navy Semen.
are the Ohio Bobcats the best team in the state of Ohio?
>>63781137
Best post all thread.
Top lad.
>9. Stanford 9-2 (L 16-6 against Northwestern, beat Oregon State by 18)
>10. Michigan 9-2 (W 38-0 against Northwestern, beat Oregon State by 28)
"no"
>ohio shit loses, drops to 8
>committee regains sanity, drops notre dame to 6
all is right in the world
>Idaho is in the Sun Belt
>>63781164
need to prop up stanford so that if nd wins they actually get a quality win
>>63781164
fuckin thank you man jesus
literally no logic between those two rankings.
I swear if absolute chaos happens and Stanford/Michigan are both 2-loss conference champions and Stanford gets the 4th seed over >us I'm going to lose my mind.
Desmond King dont give a shit. Iowa is coming for your trophies.
>tfw no more Houston shitposting
why the fuck did you guys have to lose to (You)conn
>>63781191
overrated as fuck
people are blinded by
>muh interceptions
A CB can give up ten billion TDs, but as long as they get 7+ interceptions they'll still be considered good
>>63781208
I was really hoping they'd be undefeated until Navy outmeme'd them
Really disappointed desu senpai
>>63781164
they are ranked next to each other and have largely comparable resumes. If you are going to put so much stock in common opponent, ND should be ranked ahead of OU, which isn't (and shouldn't) be the case.
>>63781170
they should be in the Pac 12 desu
Who #stillrelevant here senpai?
>>63781186
They just did that so Condi would shut the fuck up.
9 or 10 would both be quality
Also
>Archie Manning and Oliver Luck were on the committee last year and both quit it
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
WAZZU DOOMSDAY SCENARIO
>TCU beats Baylor
>Miss. State activates broship powers and beats Ole Miss
>OSU beats the meme Ducks
>Illinois beats Northwestern
>Army beats Navy
>UNC loses to Clemson, Clemson also wins rematch in CCG
>FSU beats Florida
>OK beats OK St.
>Stanford bootyblasts the bootyblasters
>MSU activates broship powers and wins next 2
>Bama BTFO x2
now things get crazy
>Stanford bus crashes en route to Levis stadium for CCG, 30 feet from Stanford parking lot, 63 players taken to hospital
>aOSU beats Michigan, but the gets lost on the way back from Ann Arbor, never to be seen again
>WAZZU alums sponsor private jet to fly team to Santa Clara, players skydive onto the field, completing warmups midair, arrive just in time for kickoff
>BTFO UCLA/USC
>Baylor plane goes down before playoff selection
Playoff Committee seeds:
>#1. Clemson vs. #4. Wazzu
>#2. Oklahoma vs #3. MSU
State Broship Championship ends in comfiest NCG of all time.
>suggestions/things I'm forgetting/additional memes?
>>63781139
HO, DOCTOR!
>>63781226
they should be in FCS
or at least the Mountain West
>>63781214
Except King has actually been lockdown all year long retard. Although I will say him getting in to the Thorpe finalists over Jourdan Lewis is a fucking crime.
>>63781248
>implying Temple or Portland State wouldn't get in over Wazzu
>>63781214
He does not get thrown at and still gets picks you dumb twat.
Literally we do not see him until he gets a pick because they avoud him.
Based king started as a freshman.....dudes a beast.
Top 25 when?
Fuck OU, fucking seriously
We better kickin their fucking ass on Saturday
True playoff when???
>>63781248
>wOrSt beating the keks
I'm sorry, but I doubt the beaves can do it.
>>63781232
Not you...
>>63781286
a-anything can happen in a rivalry game, r-right
>tfw the bootyblasters are gonna bootyblast Standork and be back in the top 4
>>63781279
3 years from now
>>63781353
rarely lurk /sp/ here. Why is ND called the bootyblasters?
>>63781374
They blast booties.
>>63781374
they bootyblast other teams
>not just using the perfectly objective New York Times college football map
What is wrong with you people
>>63781265
>doesn't get thrown at
>gets ints
Pick one you tard. This is how Big 10 fans actually think.
>>63781428
>using a newspaper-sponsored map that uses >muh data
Are you that faggot who thinks people actually care about what the data says?
>>63781454
Confirmed for never having watched Desmond King.
>>63781466
>Tarnation! I don' believe in them readin' papers with them there scribbles on 'em, shuck 'em up!! Dater, I don't care 'bout them dater! Belief in that them there reality would make me one uh them there hokoseckshulls!
Buckeye confirmed.
>>63781137
I love her music.
oh and
>TIPPITY FUCKING TOP KEK AT ND FREE FALLING OUT OF THE 4.
OOOOk-lahoma, where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain,
And the wavin' wheat can sure smell sweet, When the wind comes right behind the rain.
OOOOk-lahoma, Ev'ry night my honey lamb and I, Sit alone and talk and watch a hawk makin' lazy circles in the sky.
We know we belong to the land (yo-ho)
And the land we belong to is grand!
And when we say
Yeeow! Aye-yip-aye-yo-ee-ay!
We're only sayin'
You're doin' fine, Oklahoma!
Oklahoma O.K.!
>>63781169
They're tired of looking stupid when their top teams lose so they're dropping the bullshit with ND and putting in teams that everyone can loosely agree on.
>>63781255
OU has two CBs and a safety that are better than anyone on that fucking list
>>63781525
get a load of this nerd
>>63781374
some fag would spam
Notre Dame would booty blast both of these teams.
in game threads and for whatever erason the meme stuck and ND is now known as the booty blasters
>>63781545
aye, only iffy one is iowa but that will play itself out either way
i'm still a little pissed that ND can still get in if any one of the top 5 drops the ball this weekend though. ND shouldn't be ahead of OK state or baylor.
what is it with iowa pumping out an elite DB every decade or so? bob sanders would've been HOF if he wasn't made of glass
>>63781480
The guy said that Desmond King doesn't get thrown at but gets ints.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-sqaAc5FE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bkNMdO1lIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HHq5KhCKLw
Here are 3 videos of the QB not only throwing at him but RIGHT FUCKING TO HIM! He would have to be autistic not to catch it.
>>63781584
Yeah if Iowa wins out to me they're in but if they don't win out I'm not even sure I'd put them in an NY6 bowl.
I agree. I don't see how a 3 loss stanford is even sniffing the top 10.
>>63781667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Yvekei3CE
>doesn't throw the ball at him
>throws it right to him
>>63781559
whoa dere boi
Sanchez is easily the best cover corner in the nation but the rest of that secondary is wildly inconsistent.
>>63781137
>OU and Iowa above Clemson
>>63781667
>>63781683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zda__Dqihg
>tfw I haven't been on /sp/ for years but I feel compelled to post
Go Cougs
>>63781584
ND has a tougher schedule than OKSt or Baylor.
>>63781687
>Sanchez is easily the best cover corner in the nation
>meme 12 teams
>good defense
reminder that choklahoma got bootyblasted by clempson of all teams less than a year ago
>>63781790
they need another good reminder
Here's what New Year's Eve and New Year's Day could look like, based on current rankings:
Dec. 31
12 p.m. ET -- Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl: No. 10 Michigan vs. No. 15 Navy
4 p.m. ET or 8 p.m. ET -- Capital One Orange Bowl: No. 1 Clemson vs. No. 4 Iowa (semifinal No. 1)
4 p.m. ET or 8 p.m. ET -- Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic: No. 2 Alabama vs. No. 3 Oklahoma (semifinal No. 2)
Jan. 1
1 p.m. ET -- Fiesta Bowl: No. 6 Notre Dame vs. No. 8 Ohio State
5 p.m. ET -- Rose Bowl Game presented by Northwestern Mutual: No. 5 Michigan State vs. No. 9 Stanford
8:30 p.m. ET -- Allstate Sugar Bowl: No. 7 Baylor vs. No. 12 Florida
>>63781850
>5 p.m. ET -- Rose Bowl Game presented by Northwestern Mutual: No. 5 Michigan State vs. No. 9 Stanford
>
>8:30 p.m. ET -- Allstate Sugar Bowl: No. 7 Baylor vs. No. 12 Florida
complete shit
>The Tar Heels, winners of 10 straight, can make a huge statement in two weeks if they can knock off top-ranked Clemson at home in Chapel Hill.
>ACC championship
>home game at chapel hill
pick one
>ESPN
We beat Wake Forest by more than anyone but UNC (including Clemson). Never trailed, 3 score victory. And ESPN still said it was bad because we were "out gained" as if that matters in a 21 point victory. Like WTF is this standard that only we get held to?
We put up more yards than anyone on BC (out gained! yay!) and lead by 2 scores pretty much the entire game. It looks ugly because we have a bunch of bad turnovers. Fine.
MSU gets a complete pass for their half dozen ****ty, close victories though over TERRIBLE teams? Really???
ND is objectively superior to every one of the schools ranked ahead of us in at least some metrics. But somehow the committee is allowed to just say "meh, eye test, go f*ck yourself" and that's fine?
>>63781850
>8:30 p.m. ET -- Allstate Sugar Bowl: No. 7 Baylor vs. No. 12 Florida
What happens if they lose this weekend?
>>63781902
Alabama would but fuck Notre Dame just like 2012.
>>63781926
ND is the only team where you can beat a team by 21 points... beat them worse than pretty much anyone has the whole year... and have the ESPN personalities talk about how you "looked bad" because you were out gained.
It's completely inconsistent bull****.
>>63781902
2012 BCS bowl means ND will never get a chance against a real team until they start scheduling real teams.
>>63781932
I'll agree with you that the committee is full of retards.
>>63781926
Bama lost to the best team they faced, who is currently ranked 18th and lost to Memphis. They very well might beat ND, but you aren't basing your opinion on anything other than bias.
>>63781932
>points in garbage time are why we should be in the playoffs.
Nah sensei.
>>63781941
ND beat 2 separate p5 champs in 2012, retard.
>>63781902
Oh you poor, sad, naieve little child. OU, a blue blood, perhaps the bluest blue blood, is back in their rightful place at the top of cfb. It feels good lads.
I don't care if we lose in the playoff but I'd really like to win.
>>63781671
Stanford is 9-2 bro
and those two losses are now numbers 16 and 17
>>63781921
If UF loses out then the winner of the Egg Bowl will probably get the Sugar Bowl since it's an SEC tie in. UF will be stuck with either the Outback or Gator Bowl.
If ND goes 11-1 losing to the top team in the country on the road by 2 in a monsoon and can't make the top 4??? The playoff system needs to most certainly expand.
ND, OU both 6-0 since Ls: OU 6 foes are combined 31-33. ND 6 foes combined 39-26. ND has wins over 3 teams w/ 8+ wins, OU has 2
>>63781995
I agree it'd be better to see them get a crack, but they don't have a great win and Bama is apparently immune to critique.
>>63781994
Sugar doesn't have the "SECCG loser has to be picked if the SEC Champion is in the Playoff" rule? Rose is required to pick Iowa if they lose to MSU (who would make the Playoff), OSU/UM winner would also get into an NY6
Why does there always seem to be a lot of talk about wins against teams who were ranked at the time for SEC schools "Alabama beat then #2 LSU, #5 Georgia," etc. but you never hear stuff like "ND beat then #14 Georgia Tech?"
>>63782040
Because bama doesn't just beat a team, it destroys them. Teams just go to shit after losing to bama.
LSU was a playoff worthy team until the tide utterly demoralized them.
>>63782040
Georgia tech is 3-8. LSU is 7-3 and Georgia is 8-3.
Reminder that bama has one win over a ranked team and they are ranked 21
Reminder that MSU has 3 top 25 wins
>>63782060
>LSU was a playoff worthy team before the tide utterly demoralized them
Oh shut the fuck up, Cletus. LSU was never anywhere close to being playoff-caliber, before the Bama game they played nobody. Barely scraping by Mississippi State is now all it takes to be "playoff worthy" if you're in the SEC now?
>>63782021
I'm... not sure. I mean if UF gets booty blasted by FSU and Bama then they'll probably fall out of the top 25 altogether. I wouldn't see them getting the Sugar Bowl in that case.
>>63782060
who wins between bama and the Tenn Titans led by Memeiota? I'm saying Tide win 6-7/10
Just remember guys. The big 10 is the best conference even though they have 3 winning bowl seasons in the last 10 years.
>>63782204
Yeah, it's not like they make up 40% of the top 10 and 25% of the top 20.
>>63782204
>10 years ago matter
>3 years ago matter
>>63782204
>>63782221
>best conference
>has Minnesota in it
>Minnesota is actually mediocre in it
>>63782242
Minnesota almost beat TCU tho
>>63782242
Butthurt mctc grad detected
>>63782021
no, the highest 2 ranked teams get selected to go to the Sugar Bowl and then Citrus bowl
if the highest ranked team is in the CFP then #2 goes to Sugar and #3 goes to Citrus no matter who went to the SECCG
so basically if Florida loses out the Egg bowl winner will go to the Sugar, if Florida wins vs FSU and loses to Bama the Egg Bowl winner goes to the Citrus
>>63782117
who wins between bama and the New Orleans Saints led by Brees? I'm saying Tide win 8-9/10
>>63782343
Who wins between bama and the New England Patriots led by Brady? I'm saying Tide win 10/10, with 11 sacks on brady every game.
>>63782343
That's a better matchup for the Tide. Bama's elite D defense can neutralize the Saints air attack a little bit. Even though the tide's O-line is down a bit this year, the Saints have a pathetic d, so that would let us move the ball up and down the field a bit with a power run game when it counts.
>>63781137
>Nebraska at #5
th-thank you senpai...
>>63782355
I know this is a meme, bu who wins with equally skilled teams, Belichick or Saban?
>>63782373
the NFL doesn't get to recruit talent, so Belichick. His teams are usually less talented than the tide, yet he still works magic.
>>63782378
>the NFL doesn't get to recruit talent
So, they just hire anybody who applies?
>>63781687
>Sanchez over Hargreaves
>>63782395
sorry, NFL teams. They actually have to go through the draft process/waivers etc. They don't get to recruit whoever they want like the tide do.
>>63781850
>tfw live in commiefornia
>tfw watching the late NYE game at a bar would mean i'd have to wait at least 3 hours until midnight
>>63781932
maybe you should've kept your old schedule where you were also facing Michigan and Sparty every year instead of beating up ACC cupcakes
>>63782437
>Clemson
>USC
>Stanford
>ACC cupcakes
>>63782409
>Hargreaves over Jourdan Lewis
>>63782343
>>63782355
Who wins between Temple and the Philadelphia Eagles? I'm saying Temple wins 11/10
>>63782004
>ND thinks they have a better schedule for beating literally no one
FUCK YOU BITCH
>>63782467
they've always played those teams. my issue is that they went from playing Michigan and Sparty to playing Wake Forest and GT
>>63782501
that's pretty heavy cherrypicking son
>>63781932
you mean like you squeaked one out last weekend against boston college while turning the football over 5 times, scoring 19 points against a 3-7 football team, and generally looking like fucking dog shit?
you do realize that until that game notre dame was in the playoff right? and that they looked so fucking bad the committee had no choice but to drop them?
>>63782489
Bruh he literally just gave you stats to prove it.
>>63781973
explain why stanford is #9 then?
>>63782590
>overall wins and losses mean more than quality opponents
Then again Notre Dame has been trying to hype up their shitty schedule as quality all season
>>63782582
please anon, they weren't dropped because of that game.
>>63782004
Before this past weekend:
ND's defeated opponents had a combined record 45-43 (.511)
OU's defeated opponents had a combined record 40-47 (.459)
After the weekend:
ND's defeated opponents had a combined record 52-56 (.481)
OU's defeated opponents had a combined record 55-52 (.514)
Also ND will likely have 6 (maybe 5 if Texas pulls a miracle) of their wins come from teams that finish the season below .500 while OU will only have 4 at most (likely just 2). OU has faced and defeated better teams on average.
The real question is: how did OU jump Iowa before they lose to Nebraska this week?
>>63782501
ND is forced to play 6 ACC games a year M8. The teams you should be complaining about are UMass and Texas
>>63782630
I give OU's schedule a slight advantage.
>>63782652
UMass maybe, but Texas is usually a pretty good team.
>hoping they suck Thursday, though
>Wreck 'em!
>>63782602
They have good wins in a tough conference, and if they win out might very well make the playoff. I'd say two loss Stanford conference champs gets in over one loss UNC conference champs.
>>63782530
not him but every other playoff contender has a worse or just as brutal schedule than ND
Clemson: ND, Miami, FSU, UNC
Bama: Wisc, Ole Miss, UGA, TAMU, UTk, LSU, Miss State
OU: UTk, WVU, Baylor, TCU, OK St
Iowa: Wisc, Pitt, NW, MSU/OSU
MSU: Oregon, Michigan, OSU, Iowa
ND: Clemson, USC, Stanford
>>63782686
>UMass maybe, but Texas is usually a pretty good team.
since when
>>63781850
>1 p.m. ET -- Fiesta Bowl: No. 6 Notre Dame vs. No. 8 Ohio State
i love how they always let the overrated ticket sellers play each other so they don't get exposed and have an excuse to put one of them in the top 5 the following year. all so they can run their bullshit schedules to 10-1 or 11-0 again and keep selling the tickets and perpetuate the stupid ass cycle.
they tried that shit a couple years ago, they tried to hand ohio state a free BCS bowl by giving them clemson (who was fucking trash that year) and it totally backfired when they lost
>>63782703
are you nine years old?
>>63782630
The committee has always regarded OU as a playoff team but they didn't want to announce it until after the TCU game. It makes the bedlam game a play in for OU. I'm not sure Okie Lite will jump from 11 to 4, and barring a Baylor loss to TCU, they will be conference champs if OU loses.
>>63782702
I'm not sure how that's relevant to my post.
>>63782702
WVU and TTU would be undefeated with Iowa's schedule.
>>63782720
>people who aren't fans of a blueblood actually think like this
>>63782736
>are you nine years old?
Texas had been pretty shit for a while now
>>63782763
WVU yes but TTU would probably drop one
they looked great against Arky and TCU but kind of shit against Baylor
>>63782787
they played in the natty 6 years ago, but I guess its been bad since then.
>>63782787
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Texas_Longhorns_football_seasons
they palyed for the national championship six years ago, won it nine years ago, and have two eight win seasons and a nine win season since
you are an idiot and nine years old if you think they are a bad OOC schedule for any team
>>63782783
swerve nobleman
Who /dumpster fire/ here?
>>63782787
texas was not shit until like 2012. they fell off hard and thats why it feels like theyve been bad for a long time.
the last few years have actually been a really big aberration for that program, i dont know if they've had a stretch like this in a long time.
>>63782801
TTU drops a game or two they shouldn't every year. They had TCU and OkState both down at home and should have won both times.
>defense is improving, though
>should be 8 or 9 wins next year
>7-5 after missing a bowl last year is a definite improvement, too
>>63782875
I thought ND scheduled Texas when they were starting to trend down though
>>63782936
It's been a very long time.
>>63782952
Those games are scheduled years in advance.
>>63782936
Is Texas ever going to be good again? It seems like they picked the worst possible time to turn shitty. Baylor and TCU and TAMU all got gud nearly simultaneously, and suddenly Texas has to actually fight for good recruits in what used to be their undisputed territory. Even if they get a good coach, I'm not sure they'll go back to what they were in the glory days.
I will never understand what Urban Meyer was trying to accomplish with his offense this year
he literally just stopped doing everything that was good about it last year and then act surprised that they got completely shut down by the first ranked team they played
Say Stanford beats Notre Dame and wins the Pac-12 Conference Championship Game. What will it take for them to make it to the playoffs?
>>63782988
> It seems like they picked the worst possible time to turn shitty. Baylor and TCU and TAMU all got gud nearly
This is not a coincidence
>>63782988
dude im a miami fan. i get people saying that kind of thing about miami.
but come on. we're talking about the fucking texas longhorns here.
they're gonna be back. its inevitable.
miami isn't a guarantee, but texas? please.
>>63783013
everyone losing except baylor because cfp hates baylor
>>63781232
Always and forever will be
>bow to based Saban
>>63781690
>clemson not clemsoning
>>63782947
yes I always enjoy watching TTU it will be good when they are back
>>63782952
>>63782961
they are scheduled early but like I said Texas is never a bad OOC schedule. Just the attention any game they play gets and the history involved in that program
>>63782988
>>63783042
it will take longer if they go in a different direction with Charlie Strong. He is definitely getting the team in the right place but he is doing it in a way that doesn't take any shortcuts, ala Baylor or tOSU. I think if he gets another year they will have a winning schedule and go nowhere but higher.
Recruiting is a big deal and seeing Baylor and TCU get the snub for the cfp two years in a row and a win over a #3 OU will definitely be a plus for Texas
>>63783013
a UNC win over Clemson in the ACC might do it, just given how much disrespect they have been getting(rightfully so with the difference between Stanford and UNC schedules)
>>63782995
he doesn't run his team like a coach... he runs it like a warden. He allows his thugs to do as they please until he has lost all control.
Give it another year or 2 before he is having another fake heart attack to jump ship for the NFL and leave that school in ohio a dumpster fire like he did at UF.
>yfw
>>63782936
>mfw that one year where Texas didn't get a single player drafted
>>63782917
Start scheduling bama earlier in the year so you don't have your season trashed by them.
>>63781277
why so salty?
>>63781687
Sanchez is good, but overrated and takes big risks.
>>63781790
Oklahoma has a top 25 defense even though they played the #1, #2, #3, and # 13 best offenses in the nation, they face Oklahoma State, a top 10 offense, next week.
>>63782995
>"suckeyes will breeze through 2015" they said
>"urbz is the best" they said
>"is it even fair" they said
>"repeat inbound" they said
>"elliot for heisman" they said
>"He has only lost 3 games at OSU" they said
mfw all preseason i tell suckeye fans urbs will find a way to shit the bed... and NONE of you fuck nuts listened to me
>>63783159
The reason I mentioned they are scheduled early is that ND/UT game was probably scheduled around the time UT played in the natty. And yeah, UT will be back soon. Losing to TTU in Lubbock on the Harrell/Crabtree pass did something to them they haven't recovered from, but they will.
>dammit
>>63781790
trevor knight
>>63783293
>thinking the tech game was the start of the downward spiral
>this red raider arrogance
it started with pic related.
>>63782917
Poor Fournette... that kid had a chance to play for a great team like Bama.
>I want to be different
Hope he doesn't regret it for the rest of his life... when he doesn't win the Heisman because of Bama.... when he will never win the SEC because of Bama.... when he will never win a National Championship because of Bama. Have fun being different young man.
>>63783377
Not even Colt recovered from that. Always felt bad for him. 4-year starter taking over for the hero VY, toiled hard and respectfully, broke wins record (at time), made it to Natty, get popped out near immediately with a nerve injury in his throwing shoulder that he clearly never recovered 100% from (Even if his arm strength was 100%, he's played shook his whole career and the added concussions never helped). His entire life took a crash despite all the work he put in.
But he got paid tho, more than the Prothro's of the world can say.
>>63783429
Gurley is better tbqhwyf
>>63782111
LSU looked playoff worthy to start the season off, but they've regressed and teams have figured out that if you can cover them in man and key off 4-net their offense fucking sucks. They put 2 td's on Arkansas at home and Arkansas defense is fucking trash.
what is with this onside kick drop kick fad?
I had literally never seen it attempted before this but I swear I've seen it 5 times this season.
Thank You Based Iowa
>>63783520
You mean the sandy vagina he got after taking an actual hit? What a pussy... No wonder why he's still riding the bench in the NFL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWrKGWECQHY
>>63783529
>Gurley
is this 2014?
Whatever your smoking/drinking I'll take some
>>63783580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRTfztaioQ0
Why are No. 16 Northwestern and No. 9 Stanford so far apart in CFP rankings? Northwestern beat Stanford 16-6 in the season opener. Both teams are 9-2. Record of Northwestern's opponents: 52-47. Record of Stanford's opponents: 47-55. Northwestern has losses to No. 4 Iowa and No. 10 Michigan. Stanford has losses to No. 16 Northwestern and No. 17 Oregon.
>UNC still isn't a top 10 team
>FSU will still go to the Peach/Fiesta Bowl over UNC
Really disappointing
>implying UNC will get past NC St this weekend
>>63783377
After the Tech game, somebody from UT hired a plane to tow around a banner over OU's stadium with the RRS score printed on it when TTU and OU played. That's when their dignity ran out their assholes and down their legs. The Natty game a couple years later was a result of the players recruited before the TTU incident. If Crabtree hadn't made that catch, UT would have won the natty that year as well.
But yeah, Colt getting fucked up in the natty didn't help. I hated that, he was a good kid and his career went to shit from there.
>>63783680
You expect sense from a committee?
>>63783733
>little brother schools
Official list of little brother schools (criteria being worse school academically and in the football rivalry) ?
>Sparty
>Mississippi State
>NC St.
>South Carolina
>Auburn
>Iowa State
>Oklahoma State
>Colorado State
>Oregon State
who else?
>>63783862
aTm
>>63783592
Holy fuck thank you for pointing that out. Meant to say Chubb. Don't know where my mind was at.
>>63782373
he was booty blasted when he coached the Dolphins by Belichick
>>63783862
UCLA is about equal to USC in academics, but they're definitely still the little brother in LA. Also TAMU
>>63783879
>>63783901
TAMU and TTU, UT is great enough to have two little brothers
>>63783680
you could have at least changed the guy's tweet before you posted it...
>>63783881
>chubb is better
>>63783964
why? never claimed it was an original thought
>Iowa highest ranked B1G team
>>63783982
of course you say that because someone called you out lol
>>63783982
plagiarism bro, that's an automatic 0
>>63784041
>>63784043
>not taking comments from cfb reddit and using them here
Who is the Paul McCartney of cfb, /sp/?
>>63784000
>4 B1G teams in the top 10
alabama doesn't belong in the top 4. they've beaten nobody and lost to a nobody at home.
I can't believe I'm rooting for Penn State, but help us Penn State you are our only hope.
>beat Michigan
>beat Iowa
>get in over ND for 4th seed
It can happen, and it will happen.
Yes, Stedman Bailey was actually shot.
Also, only complaints with this week's rankings is Stanford over Michigan and Northwestern. Should be lower than both
>>63784225
WE SEC NOW
>>63784307
not with Ezekiel "12 touches" Elliot and Cardale "Am I the starting quarterback?" Jones already quitting on the team senpai
>>63784307
Hope you feel good this Saturday supporting pedophilia in a roundabout way.
>>63784307
>enabling child molestation
>>63784371
Joey "I'm Overrated and Zeke's Right" Bosa
1. (8) Ohio State @ (10) Michigan
2. (6) Notre Dame @ (9) Stanford
3. (3) Oklahoma @ (11) Oklahoma State
4. (15) Navy @ (21) Houston
5. (13) FSU @ (12) Florida
6. Penn State @ (5) Michigan State
7. (7) Baylor @ (19) TCU
8. (22) UCLA @ USC
9. (4) Iowa @ Nebraska
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-
-
9001. (18) Ole Miss @ (21) Miss State
9002. (2) Alabama @ Auburn
9003. (1) Clemson @ South Carolina
>>63784661
Mich
ND
OU
Navy
Flordia
MSU
Baylor
USC
Iowa
Ole Miss
Bama
Clemson
>>63784661
Iowa-Nebraska will be good for upset alert, Egg Bowl will be good, Navy-Houston will be shit.
otherwise good
>>63784661
Solid list, but I'd move FSU/UF down. UF is going to get utterly BTFO.
reminder that if oklahoma st and TCU win we will all be saved from having to watch a shitty BigXII team "compete" in the playoffs
>>63781277 At least our parades dont have fatalities
>>63781687
You prideful fuck. You misrepresenting Sooner Nation with your stupid analysis
>>63781950
> but Condi Rice is so smart and brings a female perspective.
>>63781889
the ACC game is in charlotte
>>63781968
Words that have been prophesied, now realized
>>63784859
Ik, quoting the ESPN article fucking that up
>>63782004
They the undisputed runnerup of the ACC
>>63784768
I don't think UF can get BTFO with their defense. I think they are gonna shit this game up real good and give us a nice defensive slog.
>>63782060
Bama has almost lost to Florida, Arkansas, and shouldve lost to Tennessee. They have good athletes, horrible quarterback, and a power rb, that will get absolutely exposed when facing a great D. Like OU. Get back to fucking your sister
>>63784927
>meme 12
>good D
>>63782204
You worst teams are better than some other conferences, your best teams are shit against other conferences
>>63784785
you're just scared you'll get a big 12 matchup
dont worry, the big 10 winner will jump Oklahoma so you won't have to face them unless they somehow beat Clemson
>>63782343
> Nick Saban sure could coach NFL players
>>63784950
>sparty
>iowa
>beat clemson
i think theyre a sham but less so than those two teams
>>63784961
I said the big 10 champ will jump OU so it will be 1. clemson 2. Bama 3. big 10 4. Oklahoma
>>63782660
Maybe a massive advantage kekold
>>63782917
Remember when they tried to compare fournette to AD? I do. Then I remembered he played for a janky cajun squad that can barely pick up their panties after Alabama
>>63784927
Alabama hasn't played Florida retard
>>63782947
Like watching TTu get bootyblasted by Baker becauee their fag coach wouldn't give him a scholarship. You deserve to lose as long as Baker plays. Why your team went with a muslim, ill never know
>>63783013
Going undefeated next year
>>63783064
Everyone hates those fags>>63783278
>>63783278
Leave it to an OU fan to have decent analysis
who /notredame/ here?
>>63782343
Any pro team would blow out any college team. If you think otherwise you're ffucking delusional.
>>63785012
You're right was thinking florida vs tennessee. Still, Sec is not up this year. And they should have lost to Tennessee
Alright, so for the twelve contenders, here the rated rakings:
Let's start with properly rated:
>Clemson
>Alabama
>North Carolina
>Baylor
Underrated:
>Michigan State
>Michigan
>Oklahoma
>Oklahoma State
And now for the grand finale, your overrated teams:
Overrated but no one really cares:
>Tebow State
Everyone knows they're shit but they're still in it:
>University of The
Umm ok guyz can we like not get ahead of ourselves:
>Bootyblasters
ABSOLUTE DOGHIST MOTHERFUCKING DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE IN THE DISCUSSION CRAP MOTHERFUCKER
>Awoi
fuck off condoleeza
>>63785123
>butthurt michigan fan detected
>>63785123
>Oklahoma
>#3
>underrated
who are they better than exactly? I can see them beating alabama cause the scrambling qb/b12 offense but that doesnt mean they are better. For the record I actually think Clemson is better than OU. OU is just right
>>63785123
>>63785161
Oh YEAH and explain this
>#1 and #2 properly rated
>#3 underrated
wut
>>63785161
Underrated in terms of the gap between them and Alabama.
>>63785183
oh, so the committees perception?
>>63785209
yes
>>63785183
Friendly reminder that this year ends the SEC hype machine
>>63784934
>only allow 190 passing yards per game
>have played 4 teams ranked in the top 15 for passing yards per game
>three of those teams are also #1, #2 and #3 in yards per game
it's easy to put up good defensive stats in the SEC which has 2 teams in the bottom 10 for yards per game and points per game.
how can you justify thinking anyone except Alabama will win the national championship at this point
>>63785310
>complying 1-3 in most yards matter when they play against meme 12 defenses
>>63785314
i think clemson matches up best against them with their run D but still give bama the edge
>>63785326
they are the most complete team but I don't think they have the horses to keep up for 4 quarters
>>63783680
That, and Michigan, the team that completely bootyblasted Northwestern, is below Stanford as well
>>63785316
>Texas Tech vs. Arkansas
>Tennessee vs Oklahoma
>Oklahoma and Tech both held their opponents way under their season averages
>Oklahoma and Tech both gained more yards than their opponent's defensive season average
"SEC defense" is mostly a sham propped up by conservative and inept offenses
>>63784307
>implying you won't see THE paedophile state university rek sparty only to shit yourself and send meechigan to the B1G championship
backloading all the good teams schedules with their games against each other was a really retarded thing for the big 12 to do
>>63785444
Thank god my team did it though
>>63785460
OU might make it through but if the conference wants to put someone in the playoff it should avoid making everyone run a gauntlet like that
>>63785478
this. make them all lose a game early and not knock each other out at the end
>>63785478
That gauntlet is why theyre in.
>>63785506
no it isn't
>notre meme
Sparty has landed on you selfish no conference punks. who /p5 conference favorite/ here? who /clear path to the natty playoffs/ here?
not invited: meatchicken, an ohio state, stanford, notre meme, baylol, tcu, ok state
Reader, a Greensboro, N.C., native, said this rivalry reminds him of Duke-North Carolina basketball.
“It’s cool to see how this state does, because being from North Carolina it’s a basketball thing,” he said. “It’s Duke-Carolina. You pick a side, and if you’re an N.C. State fan nobody really cares about you. You pick a side, Duke or Carolina.”
>NC St BTFO
>>63785528
bama reporting in. bitches
>>63785506
Yes, it's worked this year. But it could easily derail
>>63785444
without a conference championship it is the best way to propel a team to the top 4, if they deserve to be in they'll use it to their advantage like OU is doing
>>63785793
Conference champs are overrated. Baylor is tougher than anyone who clemson or alabama will play in their conference ship
Daily reminder that it happened before, it can happen again.
I'll be watching the Iron Bowl. Will you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GKmkD1pUG0
>>63786546
I need a Bama loss desu. Keep the SEC champ out. MSU loss, Bama loss, and I want a Clemsoning or a loss by ND.
Mostly though Michigan State needs to choke. MSU seems like the team thag relies most on luck and Karma this year, so I think Barkley and Suckenberg can actually pull out the win. Especially if they sit Cook again.
Meanwhile, if Urban finally takes over playcallingduties from Beck, we might actually get something going and beat Michigan and Iowa.
God damnit Tim Beck is such an incompetent piece of shit
>>63786769
Hey look
Another OSU fan blaming playcalling.
You guys are dumb fucks you know that right?
>>63785979
Baylor is a wet paper towel.
>>63785123
Iowa dont give a shit. Iowa just keeps winning haters.
>>63785019
Baker was on scholarship at TTU before he transferred. That's why he had to sit out last year.
>>63787050
Why? It has clearly been the difference between Tom Herman and Tim Beck this season. It's not like the roster changed between this year and last year. It's not like there's a single person alive defending QB draw after QB draw when the defense knows it's coming, or shovel passes to Nick Vannett. And don't even try to say nothing else was working: they attempted 0 deep passes to Michael Thomas and there wasn't a single play called that he ran a route deeper than 8 yards. You don’t know if the pass would work because they literally did not try to throw the ball. Urban Meyer himself blamed the loss on the playcalling.
The problem all season has clearly been Beck. Two QBs with totally different skillsets don't just simultaneously regress. That's on the QB coach, and the OC, who coincidentally is the same guy.
If you recall, in 2013 everyone correctly identified the ancient defensive scheme Fickell was running as the reason our defense was getting BTFO. Insert Chris Ash as D coordinator and his new system, and suddenly OSU has a dominant defense.
If not playcalling, literally what do you blame that offensive performance on? Don't say MSU's D is that good, Purdue was better than we were at scoring on them.
>>63785387
Shhhhh. Hush, now. Talk of SEC weakness, especially when propped up by factual observation, shall not be tolerated. Just because two meme 12 defenses held SEC teams below their usual output against SEC defenses doesn't mean anything.
>until OU and 'Bama meet in the playoff
>>63786769
In a way, I'd like to see the SEC out of the playoff. The only problem with that scenario is they'll go around all off-season sounding like ND: "We could've booty blasted those teams if they'd let us in!"
>>63787105
Mayfield left because
>start 5 games
>team is winning and offense is kicking ass
>get injured
>team plays poorly and offense takes step back
>randomly fighting for playing time suddenly
Kliff Kingsbury is an awful coach, one of the worst in college football
>>63787144
You mean like TCUfags have been saying? The quick remedy for that is to not struggle across the board with FCS schools. This is the weakest SEC year since before Nick Saban and Tommy Tuberville showed up in the SEC.
Also, someone explain to me why Stanford is above the following teams:
>Michigan
>Northwestern
>Oregon
Stanford should be ranked where TCU is.
man i love the michigan-osu rivalry even though im a completely neutral fan now. grew up in a family where dad, grandpa, and two uncles went there. my little brother is a current student. michigan football was such a huge deal and the ohio state game was always the highlight of the season.
>>63787219
Tfw Michigan grad
Feels good man
>>63787148
>TTU graduate.
Problems started when Leach was fucking fired for nothing. Before then, we were always ranked for at least part of the season, and had pretty good prospects. And even if the game was out of reach, you stayed to watch him going for it on 4th and 15.
Then they brought in "I'm not Leach" aka "I'm just here for a paycheck" tubberville my senior year, and shit was just never the same.
Kingsbury is a step in the right direction, but fuck man he can't recruit for shit.
>>63787219
Fuck aOSU for messing up the game of the year with their horrible play last week. Still excited for the game but it could have been 10 times better.
>>63787245
This. Game coulda been for the division but aOSU couldn't even beat sparty at home :^)
>>63787240
its a fantastic school, i didnt go there because i wanted a smaller college that was closer to home (i live in pennsylvania)
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/11/24/mirror-lake-jump.html
What kind of jackass just up and has a heart attack at mirror lake jump and ruins it for everyone? What fucking college kid's health is so poor they just up and die the second their body hits cold water?
If this jackass ruins the jump for future generations people should riot
>>63787219
The Game is the single most enjoyable sporting event that exists in the world of spectator sports. The result is irrelevant to how purely awesome the experience is.
The only thing I have ever seen that even comes close to competing is Red River Shootout
If LSU beats A&M this week, Miles will have a better 5-year record (49-15) than Saban did in his five years at LSU (48-16).
>>63787266
>Search "the game" for news articles
>all about some nigger rapper penis
What a sad world we live in
>>63787274
Muh entitlement!!!!
>>63787274
Les confirmed kuck.
>>63787275
That's just a function of Google's searching and a lot of shit being labeled The Game, like the gay ass ancient internet meme. It confuses Google, especially because Wikipedia is Google's primary source and it refers to The Game as "Ohio State - Michigan Rivalry" instead of The Game.
>>63787274
SEC fans are fucking stupid
>Tommy Tuberville spends 9 years making Auburn relevant and even has an undefeated season
>has 1 (one) losing season
>canned
>Gene Chizik wins them an NC
>has 1 (one) losing season
>canned
Don't be surprised to see Gus canned if they don't beat Bama this year, either.
SEC fans are idiots.
Maybe if Les is lucky Harballs will take an NFL job and he can finally go to Michigan
>>63787297
Which is even worse considering before tommy they were a literal who meme team
>LSU fans think they can get jimbo
LOL!
>>63787317
Eh, Pat Dye had some good teams and Terry Bowden went undefeated one year they were on sanctions and serving a bowl ban.
Shug Jordan is the most overrated shitty ass coach ever though. He won the SEC just once (1957), and won 10 games just twice after he was caught cheating 3 seasons in a row. And that SEC title and National title are the biggest asterisk in college football ever, as they were literally paying their star player that season, and had to rig the AP poll in order to win the poll. The rightful 1957 champion by votes would be Ohio State though in retrospect comparing resumes it was probably Michigan State's to claim, at least by how we look at a team's resume these days.
It's funny that a program with 0 real national championships that they didn't cheat to get would fire a coach that took them undefeated while Nick Saban was at LSU and another who won their only real NC, only a few short years after both accomplishments.
Gus Malzahn better hope he beats Bama, because his resume isn't nearly what Tuberville and Chizik had
>>63787362
That auburn team was even luckier than FSU last year
Reminder that ND never even won a BCS bowl despite only needing to be in the top 10 or whatever to get in while just playing service academies over and over again
>>63787375
The Cam Newton team or Nick Marshall's Kick Sixes?
There has never been a team more lucky than Nick Marshall's Kick Sixes, outside of possibly MSU this year with the way the Michigan game ended and the fact that Jack Willoughby is literally the worst college kicker of all time
>>63787392
I was referring to Newton due to all the close games and OT. But no one questions close games in the SEC because muh scrappy Vanderbilt
Is this team any good?
Reynolds certainly deserves any Heisman consideration. It's also the best of the service academies. Name me one team that deserves a new year's six more than the GOAT.
>>63787429
Houston, after they beat Navy
>>63787414
Eh, close games are how elite players are born. Ohio State went to OT with Penn State last year. Look at all the damn OT games Arkansas has pulled off this year. An OT game isn't necessarily luck, if you win it with a score and a stop, and not on a crazy meme coaching decision like Michigan - Indiana.
Lucky teams are more ones that win in the most improbable fashion, like Colorado's fifth down, Kick Six, the Michigan punt blunder, the Ohio State - Miami pass interference call, Florida State's win over ND last year because of a fluke penalty, Nebraska beating the Joe Bauserman experience, etc.
>>63787429
Reynolds should win the Heisman imo. That being said I will be glad to see Henry win it because I'm tired of muh QBs and it's nice that real football isn't completely dead yet. Shame Tim Beck ruined Zeke's chances.
Navy, however, is "quality loss": the team. It's outrageous that a team that beat nobody is above Northwestern or even Toledo.
The committee is generally fairly consistent but there's a couple major headscratchers that are wildly inconsistent with the rest of their methodology, like Stanford and Navy and not ranking Houston or Wisconsin
Real top 10 based on actual performance and resume, understanding that G5 teams are nothing but memes.
1) Michigan State
2) Oklahoma
3) Clemson
4) Iowa
5) Alabama
6) Baylor
7) Oklahoma State
8) Michigan
9) Northwestern
10) Ohio State
>>63787500
>MSU
>IOWA
>AHEAD OF NEBRASKA
DAMN NIGGA YOUR TOP 10 IS WEAK AS FUCK, BACK TO WATCHING ESPN FOR YOU.
Does anyone actually think Alabama is in danger of falling out of the top 4 even with a win and an SEC title? Florida could very likely fall to FSU, and Ole Miss beat Miss St, leaving Alabama with just one ranked win over a free-falling Florida. Oklahoma, meanwhile, looks formidable, and their schedule only gets better after next week. The winner of Iowa and MSU will obviously be in, and Clemson is pretty solidly in with the FSU and ND wins, especially if FSU beats Florida and ND wins against Stanford. If Stanford loses to ND but wins Pac 12 and Navy doesn't lose again, Notre Dame will have an indisputably better resume than Alabama, and even win the quality of loss argument as well as quality of wins argument.
I actually have some faith in the committee sticking to their SoS stats, like they did last year with OSU, Baylor, and TCU. If they actually do that and don't panic about leaving a one loss Alabama out because muh SEC and muh Heisman, I think Alabama is actually very likely to end up on the outside looking in, even if they win out
>>63787523
Why are you meming Nebraska so hard?
>>63787500
I think this is pretty fair actually
>>63787542
Just don't see the committee not panicking to keep the SEC champ in there, but this is entirely plausible. The SEC actually looks like the second weakest conference right now. Florida is in second there and they can barely beat FCS teams
>>63787549
>Why are you meming Nebraska so hard?
If they beat MSU and Iowa they will be undoubtedly the best team in the B1G.
You can bitch about their record, but no one will have beat as high ranked of teams as them.
Most importantly, they will booty blast Iowa.
>>63786769
>I THINK THE THING I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY YEAR IS WHEN LITTLE 10 FAN REALIZES THE KOOL-AID HE'S BEEN DRINKING IS ACTUALLY MASHED SHIT AND CORNFLAKES.
>YOU SEE, NAME FAGGOT, THE AVERAGE LITTLE 10 FAN IS A REAL TROOPER. THEY ARE NOT ANY DUMBER THAN THE REST OF US. THEY, LIKE THE REST OF US, WILL WITHOUT FAIL REALIZE THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SIPPING ON A FRUITY DRINK, BUT A STEAMING GLASS OF SHIT MIXED WITH PENCIL SHAVINGS.
>BUT WHILE THE REST OF US WOULD THROW THE GLASS AWAY WITH DISGUST AND BEGIN VIOLENTLY VOMITING UNCONTROLLABLY, YOUR AVERAGE LITTLE 10 FAN WILL CLUTCH THAT GLASS OF DIARRHEA EVER TIGHTER. THEY WILL MAKE A HERCULEAN EFFORT TO SMILE AND TELL THE WORLD THAT COLLECTION OF SMELLY HUMAN WASTE STILL LOOKS AND IS GOOD.
>SOME SAY THAT'S LOYALTY. ME, I JUST CALL IT INSANITY.
>>63787500
>Iowa
lol can't wait for them to get Xposed
>>63787571
I THINK THE THING I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY YEAR IS WHEN EVERY MICHIGAN FAN REALIZES THE KOOL-AID HE'S BEEN DRINKING IS ACTUALLY MASHED SHIT AND CORNFLAKES.
YOU SEE, NAME FAGGOT, THE AVERAGE MICHIGAN FAN IS A REAL TROOPER. THEY ARE NOT ANY DUMBER THAN THE REST OF US. THEY, LIKE THE REST OF US, WILL WITHOUT FAIL REALIZE THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SIPPING ON A FRUITY DRINK, BUT A STEAMING GLASS OF SHIT MIXED WITH PENCIL SHAVINGS.
BUT WHILE THE REST OF US WOULD THROW THE GLASS AWAY WITH DISGUST AND BEGIN VIOLENTLY VOMITING UNCONTROLLABLY, YOUR AVERAGE MICHIGAN FAN WILL CLUTCH THAT GLASS OF DIARRHEA EVER TIGHTER. THEY WILL MAKE A HERCULEAN EFFORT TO SMILE AND TELL THE WORLD THAT COLLECTION OF SMELLY HUMAN WASTE STILL LOOKS AND IS GOOD.
SOME SAY THAT'S LOYALTY. ME, I JUST CALL IT INSANITY.
>>63787567
I think Nebraska is talented as all hell and capable of beating anybody, just completely hamstrung by an idiotic coach. This team was built for Tim Beck's meme offense with a option offense, not a pro-style game, and would have won at least 3-4 more games this year if Bo was still coaching them. It's yet another 9-3 Nebraska squad that is getting teabagged by the transition out of the I formation.
Much like Tim Beck is crippling Ohio State. Why did Urban hire an I formation option QB coach to run a team that succeeded with an uptempo spread attack? I still don't understand this hire. Surely guys like Gregg Brandon, John Hevesy and Billy Gonzales would want the OSU coordinator job
>>63787567
>Nebraska
MSU was a fluke win for Nebraska, you can't even debate that. Not to mention it wasn't even the same MSU team that took the field against Ohio State.
>>63787625
>MSU was a fluke win for Nebraska,
But will it be a fluke win when they beat Iowa?
I think Conner Cook is a bag of shit. And would think higher of them if they played O'Conner for the rest of the year.
>>63787621
I don't get why he doesn't option meme at OSU. I would assume that's the logic behind the hire.The team can easily do it.
>>63787656
They want to and are built to run Urban's offensive scheme. The problem is Beck doesn't know how to run spread offense
>>63787656
The only reason it was a fluke win was because it was a wrong call that decided the game by 1 point. If Nebraska won by 5+ points and had an ending that wasn't controversial I wouldn't say it was a fluke win.
>>63787542
Good b8. The SEC is basically the same as last year, a very OP west division. Florida sucks balls yes. TN should be the East representative if they weren't such a choker team
>>63787144
>sounding like ND
you realize those are memes sarcastically generated exclusively here, right?
>>63787665
>The problem is Beck doesn't know how to run spread offense
I agree with that. But no one knew that a year ago.
You can run option bullshit out of a spread with Barrett or Jones. They don't though. They don't try, what they do try sucks.
They look like shit for the talent they have. But on paper Beck seemed like the perfect guy.
Is there a reason why he isn't doing his normal playcalls? Why the fuck isn't Barrett option memeing?
>>63787686
That call was bullshit, he went out on his own. Pretty shit on MSU to allow the game to be that close to begin with, unless Nebraska isn't currently playing that bad. But since they did get the win, It helps them vs. Iowa.
>>63787500
you tried.
>>63787696
The difference is last year Miss State and Ole Miss were top 10 teams, while this year the SEC West lost to and struggled against a lot of bad OOC teams. Arkansas's OOC results roundly embarrassed the conference, as did Ole Miss losing to an average Memphis team. Last year, the SEC West had 5 ranked teams. This year, it will probably only have two. SEC is not elite this year, and their results prove it. Bama is really good, but nobody at all else is
>>63787696
Florida isn't that good and is the 2nd/3rd best team in the conference. Ole Miss is the other 2nd/3rd best team in the conference and lost to Memphis.
>>63787709
It appears as though Beck knows nothing about the players on his own roster. I don't think he seemed like a great candidate, he wasn't superb at Nebraska and there appeared to be better names with ties to Meyer out there. Major Applewhite was a popular name in the search, and look what he's doing at Houston
>>63787274
>if
m8 i am an aTm fan and know this game is gonna be a blowout for the toygers. we have one of the worst rush defenses in all of cfb and unless our offense actually shows up, this is not gonna be close. at least i can rest easy knowing our dumpster fire isn't as bad as theirs
>>63787542
Everyone has been battling about ND/OU, but if a few games shake out the way they coul, Bama/ND/OU will all have very similar resumes, and any logic that puts OU clearly ahead of ND will also put ND clearly ahead of Bama.
>>63787778
I don't think their resumes are that similar, Oklahoma's appears to be head and shoulders above the other two when you factor in an Ole Miss win this weekend and an Oklahoma win this weekend. If I was on the committee I would have to think long and hard about keeping Alabama out if the team that's the favorite based on rankings wins each relevant game this weekend.
>>63787772
Well hindsight's a bitch.
He went with someone who was in the B1G. He was the wrong choice. But if I had two meme QB's I'd pick up the Meme OC too.
He specializes in running/RB's.
Which I thought he was shit at at Nebraska (Making them better at least, Martinez kinda didn't develop he just got older).
>>63787735
>>63787747
Neither of you have been watching the games and are consequently overrating Florida and Ole Miss. The 2/3 teams in the SEC are TN and Miss St.
1. Bama
2. TN
3. Miss St
4. Arkansas
5. Ole Miss
>>63787812
Either Baylor loses and OU potentially has no top 10 wins, or TCU loses and they probably won't be ranked. Meanwhile, OU's 5th toughest opponent was ND's 7th. People seem to assume that both TCU and Baylor will stay where they are, which can't be the case.
OU has more top 15 wins, and potentially a top 10 win, when all shakes out, but there are certainly scenarios where its not "head and shoulders"
>>63787839
I have been watching games. I was using standings. And if Arkansas is your 4th best team, that only strengthens the points of what people you quoted.
>>63787839
>hey guys we won 4 straight games against shit-tier opponents let's just forget our beginning of the season collapse
>>63787839
You're confusing who is more talented with what they have accomplished, which is all that matters.
>>63787840
I see one of Okie State and Baylor remaining in the Top 10, given either Michigan or Ohio State and Stanford or Notre Dame have to lose this weekend.
I sincerely doubt a 3 loss TCU drops out, because there will be movement at the bottom of the rankings this week. TCU will sit in the 20s. ND's best opponent was Navy, and will be a 3 loss Stanford after this weekend. Notre Dame's schedule is severely lacking in top end strength, though it has a bunch of mediocre AAC teams.
Also Texas is Oklahoma's 6th best win, behind T Tech, WVU, Baylor, TCU, Okie State. The fact that ND played one more team arguably better than Texas is not a big factor when the top of their resume is so pathetic.
>>63787839
That top 5 combines for 4 bad OOC losses, only 1 of which was to a ranked P5 opponent.
>>63787898
you can eye test all you want, but the big 12 has a balanced, round robin schedule, and Texas is currently in 4th. I suppose they could lose their next 2 and fall below TTU and WVU, but they are currently ahead of them.
>>63787924
>Texas is currently in 4th
jesus christ
>>63787924
1) Texas is tied for 5th place with West Virginia, who beaten them and has a better overall record.
2) the only reason WVU and Texas are above T Tech right now is because T Tech played one more conference game than them to date. They play Texas next, and have a better overall record.
Texas will be #7 in the Big 12 after they play out the season, and have a losing overall record whee the other two are bowl eligible teams
Not sure what your argument that Texas is better than them could possibly be
>>63787924
All of that statement is wrong. I don't need an eye test, just look at the score of WVU v. Texas and their identical in-conference records. Then look at their overall records. Also Texas hasn't played T Tech yet and has not won any more Big 12 games than them.
Factually, Texas is worse than both by all possible measurements
>>63787957
>>63787981
whoops, I was looking at the ESPN standings and meant 5th. Regardless, Texas is ahead of TTU at the moment and only behind WVU on head to head. It's not like there's some apparent gulf based on results.
PATRICK MAHOMO GONNA THROW FOR 578 YARDS TOMORROW.
>IMPLYING KINGSBURY WASN'T A KLIFF BABBY
>>63787981
Texas is ahead of TTU by the most objective measurement, unless you count a loss as superior to a game yet to be played (its not)
>>63788020
Sure there is. The gulf is the fact that Texas lost an additional two fucking games out of conference, while WVU the other two are bowl eligible and T Tech beat an SEC West team that has been laying wood in the SEC West. There's a massive gap between Texas and WVU - T Tech, any kind of national standings show that. Stop trying to pretend like OOC games don't matter, especially when comparing Oklahoma to a team that isn't even in a conference.
Oh, and I was wrong. Texas is Oklahoma's 7th best opponent.
>Baylor
>Okie St
>TCU
>T Tech
>WVU
>Tennessee
Then Texas. These are also all P5 teams, where ND has several AAC teams in their list of teams ranked better than Texas. There is literally no argument that Notre Dame's resume is even close to Texas, except for one. Quality of Loss. Which we all know from last year is not weighed that highly.
>>63788061
Do OOC games suddenly not count? The fact that Texas has yet to play Baylor and T Tech and has 4 total wins instead of 6 does not make them better than T Tech. OOC does exist
>>63788067
>OOC
WVU doesn't have a good OOC win, and TTU's has two terrible OOC games and a respectable, not great, win against Arky, a slightly above average SEC team that was coming off a loss to Toledo. That's not enough to put them above Texas despite having an additional loss in conference.
>>63788067
>WVU has wins over Libergy, 2-9 Maryland and Georgia Southern.
Man you know shits is boring when niggas be arguing who is 6th in the big12 the day before the 6th/7th game.
>>63788067
What is the AAC's best OOC win? What is the Big 12's?
>Lose to a really good Baylor team
>Have ZERO (0) chance to make the playoffs
Why did our OOC this year have to be so shitty? Why is our schedule so backloaded?
At least we play Pitt next year and play Baylor early in the season
>>63782995
Urban can't coach desu. He's not a great in game coach. He's not an amazing x's and o's guy. He just recruits a bunch of fast nigs and hopes they'll be able to outrun everyone on the field. Unfortunately for him, this year Ohio State has 10 Hbacks and zero real receivers, so he's decided to run meme sweeps and qb runs every play. That's what you get out of a spread coach though. Hopefully the elite rb's will wisen up and not go to Ohio State anymore.
>>63788140
And Texas Lost two OOC games. Explain to me how beating Arkansas isn't better than losing to Cal, and how not playing Baylor or T Tech yet accounts for two additional losses. ND is a "quality loss", sure, but they got BTFO and that doesn't help them at all. I don't even know why I'm having this argument, nobody alive has Texas ranked above either T Tech or West Virginia besides you. Even if Texas somehow manages to beat T Tech, they have a worse overall record and still aren't clearly better of an opponent.
And if they pass T Tech, they also end up passing another ND opponent, and they're still the sixth best opponent for both teams.
How is ND's resume better than Oklahoma's? What scenario would make it better? (
Pro tip: it doesn't exist. Nothing at all left can happen that makes ND's resume better than Oklahoma's, assuming they both win.
>>63788206
Backloading might have actually helped you, because it made all 4 Big 12 contenders look even better than they were. If TCU took an earlier loss, they wouldn't have been such a high quality win for you guys or OU. I don't think it really matters at the end of the season though.
>>63788191
>AAC
Memphis beat 8-3 Ole Miss
>Big 12
Oklahoma beat 7-4 Tennessee
Difference: Notre Dame did not play Memphis. Notre Dame played Temple and Navy, whose best OOC win was Penn State.
Tennessee at 7-4, soon to be 8-4 > Penn State at 7-4, soon to be 7-5.
>>63788206
If only Okie State could play FSU this year...
>>63788215
you need to calm down. Texas OOC schedule is much harder than TTUs, this is undeniable. so its a stupid metric to use when they have identical 9 game schedules to use, which will include head to head after this weekend. Texas has beaten a team TTU lost to and they have generally comparable conference records. It's not insane to think they might win, though TTU is clearly the favorite.
And I'm not even saying ND's schedule is better than OUs, never claimed as much. Just that they aren't as different as you are claiming. You casually dismiss the AAC, and I do think the Big 12 is probably better (certainly has more talent), but you've yet to address what this guy brought up.>>63788152
We assume the Big 12 has 3 or 4 elite teams, but that's based primarily on good, not great, wins over Tenn and Arky and the top teams beating the shit out of the rest of the conference early in the season.
>>63788241
that wasn't the point, friend.
>>63788265
>Just that they aren't as different as you are claiming
Why are they not different? Oklahoma has higher quality wins and more ranked wins. They have a similar depth to their schedule on the middle and bottom end. Where is the part where ND's resume is close to theirs?
I don't need to address WVU's OOC. Notre Dame played Navy. Address Navy's entire schedule. WVU beat Texas, so they're better than Texas, with a better overall record and a tied conference record, which includes their head-to-head win.
We assume what about the Big 12? Nobody thinks it's elite. It's just better than ND's schedule which is based on AAC teams with cupcake schedules. As it stands right now, Baylor >>>>> Navy, amd TCU >>>> Temple. As it stands after next week, Okie St >>>> Stanford. Where is the point where ND wins this argument?
>>63788325
But that gap between baylor and navy and tcu and temple can't both remain that way, unless navy loses (entirely possible)
And again, you are assuming the Big 12 is very good top to bottom if you think the top 4 are accurately ranked.
>>63787266
> liberals have forced it to be called red river rivalry
>>63788359
I'm assuming the rankings are the rankings, not whatever you are assuming.
Assuming worst case for Oklahoma:
>Baylor loses to TCU
The fall into the teens. TCU moves up to equal or better than Baylor, also in the teens.
>Okie State loses as expected
Falls into the teens
Meanwhile
>Stanford loses
Falls into the teens, surely below at least one of the three loss Big 12 teams each with a win against a ranked opponent, as they have beaten nobody at all and would have 3 losses.
>Navy wins
They remain ranked in the teens, below TCU who will jump them after beating a top 10 opponent.
>Temple wins
Win over shitty team can't move them over Okie State, Baylor or TCU.
Oklahoma's ranked wins are still better. Add to that Tennessee for good measure, and Oklahoma has the better resume.
West Virginia plays two cupcake shit teams to close out the season and will probably be 8-4. Tennessee close out against Vanderbilt and will probably be 8-4. These aren't top 25 wins, but they're additional wins that ND has nothing to compare with, on top of the already better schedule.
NOTRE DAME WOULD BOOTY BLAST BOTH OF THESE TEAMS
How do you guys do it? The constant arguing in circles, both with other people, and your own doubt?
I'd hate to have a team that wasn't clearly championship material.
Pic obviously related. That baby is going places.
>>63781252
Big Sky
that Kibbie Dome is really what's holding them back
that, and a callusion of politicians in Boise keeping funding from them
if ole miss wins this weekend and bama somehow shits the bed against a barn, and then knocks off Florida in the SECCG, how high will the level of butthurt be?
>>63788503
Bama could easily be left out if Florida loses to FSU and Ole Miss loses the Egg bowl
>>63788524
If bama wins out, they're in.
>>63788480
if you go with rankings are rankings, why do you tend to downplay the legitimacy of wins over Navy and Temple? Not just ITT, but in general.
Moreover, I doubt TCU will jump Navy. The "worst case" you've outlined gives ND 2 wins in the 10-20, and an additional in 20-25, while OU has 3 in the 10-20 range. You can't count WVU and Tennessee and discount USC/PItt, that's just biased. As I've said all along, this scenario gives OU an edge, but it's not actually that different.
hk going beat all just give up now, no need to for try win we win always
>>63788541
you guys are ok with me, but fuck mainland china
>>63788524
There's nothing easy about it. Bama has the eye test going for it. The playoff committee is seeing how high Bama is ranked by composite stats, and also seeing how amazing the defense is. There isn't a team right now that looks like it could bootyblast bama, not even the actual bootyblasters.
>>63788532
ND will have beaten both the AAC champ and the Pac 12 champ, and lost to the ACC champ by 2 points on a last second play away from home in a monsoon.
OU will have beaten... a circle big xii teams? Oh and they lost the red river rivalry, per usual
>>63788574
>ACC
>Good
Losing at all should drop them to FCS level
You may only post in this topic if you team's conference is not a joke.
NOT SO FAST BIG 12.
>>63788574
OUs win over Tennessee validates their quality in a lot of ways. But the Big 12 in general hasn't done enough out of conference to claim that their rankings are more legit than the AACs. That's why Baylor and OSU are probably fucked, even if they win all remaining games.
>>63788630
so no Go5 teams at all, then?
>usXII's
these faggots don't get to call themselves a Power Con until they get a CCG
>>63788528
Based on "because they're Bama", or what? Because it's not on resume anymore.
>>63788532
I don't see how you rank Navy or Temple who both have 0 wins over ranked opponents over a Big 12 team with a win over a ranked opponent. That would be inconsistent with the committee's past actions. Stanford at least has the Wazzou win, but an additional loss.
I don't doubt the legitimacy of the resumes of Temple and Navy, but realize that neither one has beaten a ranked opponent and Stanford has just Wazzou. These cannot be better wins than Big 12 teams
>>63788574
AAC and Pac 12 champs would have just one win over a ranked opponent, combined. Two if they're lucky.
>>63788652
Go5 is fine. nobody overrates them.
>>63788648
He isn't wrong.
We should invite this guy to our selection committee
>>63788662
again, the big 12's wins over ranked opponents are all against other big 12 teams. I don't doubt that they should be ranked, but this is the exact same shit the SEC has pulled for years that people like you have bitched about. Once teams start having 2-3 losses, it gets very difficult to say that one is definitively better than the other. Especially this year, 10-20 is pretty muddled, as is 20-30
What would happen if UF wins out? Would you let them in, even with close wins over Vandy, SC, and FAU?
>>63788636
What has the AAC done that proves their worth? Only Memphis has one upset win over Ole Miss. Notre Dame does not play Memphis, and none of the teams they did play from the AAC beat Ole Miss. Temple did, however, get BTFO by a team that got blown out by Maryland. How is Temple a legitimate team? They are about to lose their division to the team that lost 4 games, including Maryland. Penn State win is their only saving grace.
As for Navy, they beat nobody. Memphis had a good win but dropped 3 games. Houston has played nobody. Navy has played nobody.
Where is this legitimacy to Navy and Temple?
>>63788752
"Quality losses"
>>63788708
I don't care. I'm saying that ND will not stand a chance of being ranked above Oklahoma. Because they don't. Memphis beating Ole Miss does not make Temple or Navy better than TCU and Baylor.
It literally does not matter that Memphis beat Ole Miss.
>>63788752
OU unqeustionably has better OOC validation that Navy and Temple. But OSU, Baylor and TCU don't. Why are we assuming that OSU Baylor and TCU are all top 15 teams? Because OU beat Tennesee and TTU beat Arkansas? Temple beat Penn State and Memphis beat Ole Miss.
>>63788807
your summation statement is only true if we assume the big 12 is a better conference than the AAC. Probably true, but not objectively demonstrated on the field this year.
>>63781277
O S U SUCKS
Alabama is going to win it all this year.
>>63788863
>>63788807
Why are we having all of these arguments when ND is gonna lose to Stanford anyway and it will be a moot point
>>63788888
Colin Cowherd so booty blasted right now about Iowa.
I really hope they pull off some miracle and end up in the final 4.
>>63788914
I don't see why he cares. If they win out, they shouldn't be left out. If they lose, they won't make it. That simple.
>>63788928
Because he's a blue blood homer.
>>63787686
>Give up double-digit fourth quarter lead with LESS THAN TWO MINUTES IN THE GAME LEFT.
>Not converting just ONE first down when Nebraska has no timeouts left to put the game on ice.
>Allowing Tommy "Arm-So-Strong" Armstrong Jr. to throw two 30+ yard passes in a row and then another 30 yard pass two plays later for tje go ahead touchdown.
>IT'S THE EVIL REFS FAULT!
Look, the call was shitty, no doubt. But you're delusional if you think this loss was solely on the refs. MSU spaghettied on an epic level.
IF DAK IS LEFT UP IN THE SECOND ROUND ANY TEAM THAT DOESNT TAKE HIM DESERVES TO BE SHIT FOR 15 YEARS.
>>63788855
That's inaccurate. Baylor has a terrible OOC, but Navy actually hasn't beaten anybody better than Minnesota in their OOC, and theirs is still no better than Okie State's joke of an OOC. Temple has the best OOC of the group, but they lost to a terrible USF and have no win to compensate for that. So, Baylor has a win over a team with similar OOC as Navy. Okie St has a win over a team with better OOC than Navy. TCU would have a win over Baylor and the better OOC than Navy.
Again, Navy has beaten nobody at all. Texas Tech and Memphis are utterly irrelevant in this discussion, as that type of discussion is complete slippery rock theory.
Navy beat nobody. Temple beat Penn State but is about to lose their division to a 7-4 team that got blown out by Maryland.
How is Temple or Navy better than TCU, Baylor, or Okie State? Those teams at least played and beat teams that beat the team with the decent OOC win over Arkansas, Navy just beat that team. In this comparison, Memphis is comparable to Texas Tech. Navy and Temple would be Baylor, TCU and Okie State. Navy didn't play Temple. Baylor and Okie State beat TCU. There is no world where beating Memphis makes you better than beating TCU.
No matter how hard you want to play the Slippery Rock game, the Big 12 still wins the comparison.
>>63781232
Forever ND desu
>>63789067
you mean slippery slope?
In any case, I never said Temple or Navy were better than OSU, TCU or Baylor. You have a nasty habit of misunderstanding an argument and typing a bunch of irrelevant shit based on your assumption.
The argument isn't that the AAC is better or that Temple or Navy are better. The argument is that the perceived quality of the 4th best big 12 team (which is assumed to be as good as the best AAC team) is based entirely on circular logic. There's no evidence this year that the big 12 is so much better than the AAC that it's 4th best team is as good as the AAC's best. I don't have to demonstrate that Navy is better than Baylor, because I'm not arguing that. I'm just pointing out that the Big 12's perceived supremacy over the AAC isn't based on OOC wins. And that has major ramifications for OU's SoS.
>>63789223
>you mean slippery slope?
>>63788749
yeah
they would've beaten the #13 team and the #2 team i don't a reason why they wouldn't be let in
>>63789223
Slippery Rock is a reference to the first AP poll and a legendary joke article that declared Slippery Rock the National Champions because they beat a team that beat a team that beat a team that beat Minnesota.
It's not based on circular logic, you're just braindead. Outside of playing each other, Baylor, Okie State and TCU have similar resumes to Navy. The difference is that they played each other, where Navy does not play a comparable opponent to themselves. That's why Oklahoma's resume is better than Notre Dame's. If Navy had played Temple, this conversation would be different. But they didn't, and they won't. That is why Baylor and Okie State are ranked over Navy now, and why TCU would jump them if they beat Baylor. There's no circular logic here. The evidence that the Big 12 is better than the AAC is that there are 3 Navy-esque teams, and one team with a much more solid resume than Navy. Two of those teams have a win over a team like Navy or Temple, while Navy and Temple do not play a team in the same category. The Big 12 teams being clearly better than the AAC teams outside of their own conference is sort of irrelevant, because they can put together a similar resume to Navy outside of their conference and then play each other. The two AAC teams have weaker resumes than the Big 12 teams simply because they do not play each other.
>>63789346
I've learned something new today
>The difference is that they played each other
that's circular by definition. It's not fair to assume they are ALL better, when the only difference is that they've played each other.
>>63789370
We're not looking for the more talented teams, we're looking for the best resumes. There is a major distinction. Actually playing and beating the good teams in your conference gives you a better resume than claiming a team that has not played an opponent on par with itself. That's not circular logic.
>>63789346
Slippery Rock WAS National Champion u fuk
HUCK THE FUSKIES
GO COUGS
>>63789408
it'd be one thing if we could clearly rank TCU, Baylor and OSU after they play each other. If OSU loses and Baylor wins, this is absolutely what happens, and you'd be right. If OSU loses and TCU wins, like you discussed, they'd all have lost to the best team the played and split with one another. If we then assume that they are all better than a team that only lost to ND in a conference where their opponents had good OOC wins, that's by definition circular.
>>63789346
>why is Baylor good?
>because they beat OSU
>Why is OSU good?
>because they beat TCU
>why is TCU good?
>because they beat Baylor
or
>why is TCU good
>because they beat WVU, Texas Tech and Minnesota
Not sure those are grounds for assuming they are all top 15 teams.
>>63789454
What? In our scenario all three have a loss to Oklahoma which theoretically = Notre Dame loss. They would also each have a win and a loss against a team of anout equal value to what we perceive their resumes before they played each other to be. Navy, meanwhile, would not have played an equal. Navy beating Memphis is not different from those three beating T Tech, whose OOC win actually beat Memphis's. However, Navy has not played an opponent percieved to be on par with them, like Baylor, TCU and Okie State would have. Going 1-1 against teams of the same perceived caliber proves that you roughly are all equal. Not playing a lerceived equal and proving you belong among them is absolutely not better than going 1-1 against perceived equals.
That makes them better, having proven they can compete with teams of the same level, than Navy having proven jack shit does.
And did I mention that Temple lost to USF, a 4 loss team with a blowout loss to Maryland, in a blowout? How can Temple possibly be in the same conversation?
Navy beat one team with good OOC wins. So did Baylor, TCU and Okie State. Temple's win against Penn State doesn't help them, because they literally don't play Temple. How is Navy comparable to these teams?
>>63789602
Total wins count for something. Also T Tech beat Arkansas, Arkansas beat a lot of SEC teams, including the AAC's marquee win. Why is any team good? Because they beat a lot of other teams, and they beat other teams that beat a lot of teams.
Why is Alabama good?
Because they beat Wisconsin, who beat ????
Because they beat LSU who beat Florida who beat ?????
Because they beat Arkansas who beat Ole Miss who beat them?
You're acting like these resumes are particularly different than any other conference
YFW THE TECH WRECKS EM HORNS
>>63785095
I Dame
>>63789720
whats with that little dude on his shirt?
>>63781536
YES
Oklshomaaaaaaaaa
O.K.!!!
>>63787062
>haters
You should feel fortunate that you're in line to make the playoff when you haven't actually beaten anyone who is/was relevant this season.
>>63789872
Northwestern is definitely relevant. As relevant as Navy and Stanford are, that's for fucking sure. If Iowa beat nobody relevant, who is there that's relevant on ND's schedule? The team that lost to the "irrelevant" team with the same record?
>>63789872
Northwestern is a better win than any of Bama's. I'd argue that Pitt might even be as well.
>>63789936
EYE TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>63789936
Some might say Northwestern's resume is better than Bama's because they played 3 top 10 teams and won against one of them, where Bama has played none
>Stidham out the rest of the year with a broken ankle
I wonder how that Baylor money and new truck are treating him
>>63789987
BAYLOR ABOUT TO PULL THE AOSU
PREPARE YOUR BOOTY FOR BLASTING!!!
>>63789936
b-but muh eye test and muh SEC WEST GAUNTLET
The more I think about it, the more I don't see the logic of putting Bama in the playoffs if Ole Miss wins the Egg Bowl and Florida loses to FSU. Iowa/MSU, Clemson, Oklahoma and Notre Dame would all havr definitively stronger resumes. Muh eye test be damned, if Ole Miss wins the Egg Bowl and FSU beats Florida, Alabama is on the outside looking in and it isn't very cloae
>>63790015
If Baylor wins it all, every team is going to scramble to add and promote their third string quarterback next season.
>>63790156
lmfao
>>63790156
I don't like Mich St. going if Iowa loses to Nebraska.
Daily reminder Bama is playing the best football out of anybody in the country right now but no one here will admit it.
>>63790210
everyone either a. has not been watching them or b. is scared
>>63790156
Inb4
>I was just pretending to be retarded
>>63789431
I'll be rooting for you guys as we get our asshole ripped open by Memeregon.
>>63790210
Stfu fagget they're number one in Muh eye test rankings
so is the latest /cfb/ meme dismissing any consideration of *how* a team wins/loses as "eye test"?
>>63790270
The eye test is consideration of wins/losses
>>63790310
what
>>63781902
>ND is objectively superior to every one of the schools ranked ahead of us in at least some metrics. But somehow the committee is allowed to just say "meh, eye test, go f*ck yourself" and that's fine?
they're hoping for a rematch between OU and bama, hoping bama blows them out to make up for that embarrassing display in the 14 sugary owl
>muh tide
>>63790156
Yeah, it's very possible that Alabama finishes the season without a single win over a team that finishes in the top 25 if FSU beats Florida and Ole Miss beats MS state.
But the committee will put them in anyway.
>>63790327
What the fuck do you think the eye test is?
>>63790335
And rightfully so. They deserve to be in if they win out.
>>63790234
I'm not, though. If what I described happens and all else goes as predicted, you have:
>Clemson
Wins over ND and 10-2 FSU who beat Florida
>Oklahoma
Wins over three top 25 teams + Tennessee. One win over top 10 opponent.
>ND
Wins over 3 top 25 teams
>If Iowa
Wins over two top 25 teams, one of which is a top 10.
>If MSU
Wins over three top 25 teams, two top 10.
Meanwhile Alabama would have:
1 win over a top 25 team
Lower quality of loss than ND
Even if some opponents slide back in, it doesn't help them, because:
>Oklahoma beat Tennessee as well
>Iowa also beat Wisconsin
Alabama would clearly have the weakest resume, were this to happen.
>>63790358
Why
>>63790371
Because they're playing better than most are right now. The committee values improvement.
>>63782467
>tries to deny acc is cupcakes
>lists only cupcake winning and pac12 tards
How bootyblasted would /cfb/ be if Bama won the playoffs?
>>63790356
judging one team to be better than another despite objective information to the contrary because you just think they look better, essentially
>>63790333
Post YFW
1. Clemson
2. Bama
3. Oklaholma
4. The tOSU
And bama gets to have a rematch against both Oklahoma and The tOSU.
>>63790386
The committee values resume and they don't have one. Playing a weak SEC resume doesn't get you a in over teams that are beating teams that don't struggle or even lose to FCS teams.
Friendly reminder that Mississippi State is the only currently ranked team that Alabama has beaten and they lost to Ole Miss at home
Friendly reminder that Clemson has beaten Notre Dame and Florida State
Friendly reminder that Oklahoma lost to Texas and has beaten Baylor and TCU
Friendly reminder that Iowa has beaten literally nobody
Friendly reminder that Michigan State has beaten the defending national champions on the road with 2 backup quarterbacks in one of the most hostile crowds in college football with over 100k people, their rival on the road beating adversity in another hostile environment and defeated Oregon while losing to Nebraska on the road on a controversial call
Friendly reminder that Notre Dame has beaten no one
>>63790421
The eye test doesn't use any information besides
>I think this team would booty blast that team.
That's all the eye test refers to.
Ex: Michigan State looks weak, they barely beat Michigan and looked worse all game.
Using information I would say
>Mich state is weak because they didn't lead the game at all in their two big wins.
In this case the info and eye test show the same results. But they are different methods.
>>63790471
Bama's resume is more about stats.
>held fournette to four net yards
>best defense in the best conference in the best country.
>schedule is overall very strong.
>>63790496
The committee doesn't value stats over resume. Their schedule overall is no longer strong. The best team they beat is Wisconsin if Miss State loses. Wisconsin is mediocre and unranked.
>>63783284
he shit the bed when he hired Tim Beck
that hire scared me but I gave Urban the benefit of the doubt since Tom Herman ended up being an ok coordinator and we just won a championship. Now we see that maybe Urban just thought he had some special insight into Tim Beck but he really just hired a complete retard who would go on to ruin our offense and plunge us into rebuild mode a year early. as long as Urb fires that faggot and puts Warriner back on o-line, I'll be fine with a rebuilding year next year. but as long as we have Tim Beck we are gonna be overrated garbage
>>63790471
>>63790359
alabama has played the toughest overall schedule of anyone in contention
>>63790535
Pretty sure the consensus in house is that both Warriner and Beck are gone. Urban already took over playcalling from them for the Michigan game.
>>63790549
>LITERALLY HAVE BEATEN 1 (ONE) CURRENTLY RANKED TEAM THAT IS UNRANKED WITH A LOSS THIS WEEK
>>63790584
why not throw some exclamation points on that bad boy
>>63790578
thank
fucking
god
man, I hope this lights a fire under the players' asses and we just bootyblast scUM and then wreck whoever we play in our new years bowl game (because I really can't trust james franklin to pull out a win over MSU)
>>63790525
Obviously the committee values stats, because otherwise bama wouldn't be in the top 4.
You're asking why, I'm telling you. It should help that no rational person actually thinks bama doesn't deserve the playoff spot.
>>63790584
>responding to giants gonna gi
>>63790615
they value resume, too, they just don't reduce the entire season to "what is your best win" like several people in this thread are insisting on doing
>>63790549
A bunch of unranked teams that lost to the likes of Texas Tech, Toledo, and Memphis is no longer a good schedule. Who did anybody they play beat? Nobody but other SEC teams. Even Wisconsin is winless against teams with a pulse. I would struggle to believe a bunch of 7-8 win teams + Wisconsin and some FCS school is a tougher schedule than one that features ranked teams.
Bama wins out and they are in.
And there is literally NOTHING you spergs can do about it.
How bootyblasted does this make you?
>>63790639
Yeah, but I think a lot of it is stats. Bama is dominating pretty much every conceivable football stat right now. The fact that they had the toughest schedule at the start of the season is also there. obviously as we beat teams, they drop ranking.
>>63790475
>Notre Dame has beaten no one
So 15 Navy, 25 Temple, an 8-3 Pitt, and a very talented USC are "no one"
ANd don't spew that g5 is not a real team bullshit, Navy would beat most teams ranked below them in the top 25. They shit on Memphis and will shit on Houston this week.
Why do people continue to bring up Bama losing to Ole Miss when the defending national champion lost to 7-6 Virginia Tech team at home by 2 touchdowns?
That VT team was a much worse loss than the Ole Miss one.
>>63790669
>0 (zero) (nada) (none) (zilch) (cero) (nul) (neoni) (saiva) (nol) (صِفْر) (sifili) (eber) playoff wins
>>63790724
They scared paul
>>63790642
Don't ask me, ask any reputable SOS ranking. Football Outsiders has Bama's schedule #2 behind ND; every other source I've seen says Bama has played the toughest schedule of any of the teams left in contention
>>63790721
>Navy
>Temple
>Pitt
Daily reminder
>>63790615
Alabama is still up there because the committee is a week late in dropping them just like they were with Notre Dame this week and TCU last year. I would say right now Bama's ranking is a direct result of of who they are and what teams are at the time. If stats outweighed resume, then why did OSU get in over TCUand Baylor's record breaking offenses? Because they had the better resume, as would everyone else over Bama.
Also, we're two games behind all this playing out. Right now Miss St is still ranked, Notre Dame doesn't have a win over Stanford, Stanford has not won the Pac 12 championship yet, Navy has not yet beaten Houston and USF, Ohio State and Michigan have not yet played, Baylor and TCU have yet to play, Iowa has not beaten Michigan State or vice versa, and FSU has not beaten Florida. Until the games are played the fallout from them cannot yet happen. Is Oklahoma with wins against Tennessee, Baylor and TCU better than Alabama with a win against Tennessee, Miss State, and a bunch of mediocre teams? I think so, but it's not clear. Add Okie State to that resume though, and then it's much more definitive.
Is wins over Ohio State and Michigan but playing a bunch of B1G shit teams better than Bama pre-Egg Bowl results? I think so, but add Iowa to that and the answer becomes more definitive against Bama. Is beating Northwestern and Wisconsin and going without a loss better than Bama? No, but add Michigan State to it, and the answer is Yes. Is Navy, USC and Temple with muh quality loss to Clemson better than Bama's resume? I say no, but the committee seems to like these teams. Add two big Navy wins and a win over Stanford, and the answer is not the same anymore based on how the committee values the AAC so far.
>>63790920
BOOTYBLASTED
>>63790856
Alabama is still up there because the ranking system you're using to say the teams bama plays is shit also happens to say bama is #2.
You can't on one end say the system is accurate for these teams, yet inaccurate for Bama. So a huge part of bama's resume is that they are #2 in the coaches poll (and virtually ever other relevant statistic).
>>63790971
And I'm telling you that ranking will drop, if nothing crazy happens and FSU beats Florida and MSU loses the Egg Bowl. Those SoS measures take a dive when it all plays out. Alabama being #2 now doesn't mean they stay #2 if they win out. Far from it, in fact.
>>63790767
West Virgina and TTU would be a one loss team with ND schedule.
They'd be undefeated with Bama's and tOSU's schedule.
>>63791109
Since the ranking is contingent on a bunch of coaches making eye ball tests, and not going into circular logic over their own damn rankings, no, it doesn't mean that bama will drop.
If bama wins out, they will stay in. Nobody in the coaches poll or the playoff committee is going to say "well this team lost to that team which won to that team, which lost to terrorism, which beats paper". That logic is reserved for shitposters on /sp/.
>Iowa is better than OU
>MSU is better than OU
IS THE BIG 12.....
ELITE?
>>63791274
>youd have to combine Iowa and MSU's schedule to equal OU's difficulty
that is fucking pathetic
>>63791363
I'd rather have KU than Vanderbilt. At least KU wins basketball natties.
>>63791396
But you'd still take Kentucky over KU right?
>>63791215
Ohio State was nelow TCU and Baylor. They beat Wisconsin and were put in, thanks partially to an upset in Bedlam making OSU's SoS better than Baylor and TCU's. Ohio State jumped both of them because of who they beat, how badly, and what happened around them. Why do you assume Alabama is immune to what happens around them? Oklahoma picking up another top 25 win is a big deal, especially if they win it solidly. Notre Dame beating a team right now ranked #9 is a big deal. Michigan State/Iowa beating a team currently in the top 5 when they play each other is a really big deal. Alabama giving a Florida team that fell off the face of the earth after Grier's suspension and almost lost to an FCS team their third loss is not as big a deal as the rest of that.
I don't see why you think Alabama is immune to the rest of college football. The committee has shown on multiple occasions they are more than willing to move teams that win down. This isn't the AP and Coaches Poll era anymore where you basically have to lose to drop in ranking.
>>63791463
keep dreaming
>>63791424
>Both schools only have one nattie in the past decade
Why? Cal has already said he doesn't plan on coaching into his 60s and he's already 56. As soon as he's gone your school means nothing.
>>63790783
>iowa propping up it's fcs tier schedule
I really hope Iowa and Alabama stay the course. Those teams would be easy pickings for OU
>>63791527
Dreaming what? I'm basing what I say solely off of what the committee has done. Their track record to now says this is exactly what they will do. You, meanwhile, are basing it on a belief that ypu must lose to drop, which has not been even remotely true in the Committee era
>>63791215
Stop arguing with that idiot. He actually thinks that Ohio St is a good team.
>>63791630
OU had trouble with TCU and TCU didn't have Boykin or Doctson. Keep dreaming.
This board really isn't the same now that the ND and Iowa shitposters have gone away
>>63791590
I don't know what you're trying to tell me.
Kansas will suck because Cal is gone?
>>63791732
OU didn't have Mayfield for a half and Perine and Mixon for one quarter. Keep dreaming.
>>63791673
I'll bet you my life savings that Alabama gets in the playoff if they win out.
>>63791779
>doesn't have 3 offensive players
>defense can't stop a team without it's 2 stars
Are you retarded anon?
>>63791861
>TCU held to 200 yards and 20 points less than their season averages
>defense didn't play good
Are you fucking retarded?
That isn't the first, or second, but the THIRD TIME, OU has manage to stifle a top 10 offense. Iowa hasn't even beaten one of them. The first two were the first and second best offenses in the nation.
Stay mad you little kek, even with a loss the CFP can't deny us. You are on an island by yourself, and that island is inhabited only by people that think Bama and Iowa are quality teams
>Ohio State won't make the playoffs
>>63791972
What part of no Boykin and Doctson don't you understand? They have nobody after that.
>>63791801
I think they will, mostly because it's very unlikely odds that 0 upsets occur besides FSU beating Florida (if we can even call that an upset) and Ole Miss beating Miss St. Something crazy always happens, that's why college football is college football. It's also not impossible that Michigan State loses, allowing Ohio State back into the playoffs with a win over Michigan and Iowa. The same number of things have to happen for OSU to get back in as for Alabama to fall out. It's just worth noting that the scenario exists and doesn't rely on anything crazy to happen
>>63792129
5 first downs.
>>63792129
The scenario does not exist, dude. You are focusing way too hard on the strength of each team's best win or 2 and ignoring everything going in Bama's favor
>>63792207
He's still in shock because of his team shitting the bed. Give him time.
I learned today (yup my bad) that Ok State used to put cowboys stickers on helmet to players who performed well on the field.
But I didn't find any pictures who show this stickers. Halp pls
>>63791673
The committee put the tOSU in at 4 (four) after they 59-0'd Wisconsin. They're not going to have them jump #2 (two) bama.
>>63792207
I find it implausible that the top 3 wins of every team being better than all of Alabama's doesn't outweigh the legion of 8 win teams.
Oklahoma would beat 3 teams better than Alabama's best, and their fourth best win would be one of Alabama's best.
Iowa would beat two teams better than Bama's best and their third best win would be one of Bama's best.
Michigan State would have four better wins than any of Bama's wins.
Notre Dame would have three better wins than any of Alabama's.
Clemson would have two.
If it was just one win that was better but an overall shit schedule of losing teams, a la Ohio State were they to sneak in, no way do they get in over Alabama. Same goes for Okie State or Baylor. But I do find 3 wins that are head and shoulders above all of Bama's wins to be pretty significant.
I get the argument that they played very few teams with a losing record, but is it any harder for an elite team to beat Penn State as it is to beat Indiana? Not really, good teams would bulldoze either one. The fact that Penn State is better than Indiana is kind of moot when neither is capable of beating an elite team.
What Bama's schedule consists of is a bunch of Penn States without any Indianas or Marylands, but with no Michigan, Michigan States, or Ohio States.
I don't find happening to play all Penn States to be that compelling of a schedule. It might give you points towards SoS, because those Penn States all have winning records, but none of them constitute a legitimate threat to beat you.
It's like counting Cincinnati as a good opponent because they had a good record last year against a bunch of mediocre teams
>>63792516
>autism: the post
>>63792361
There's two weeks for Bama to slide down. This week they get jumped by Oklahoma. The following week, ND jumps them after Stanford and Navy win their conference championships, and Iowa/MSU jump them with a win over a top 5 opponent.
>>63790724
I think people are more upset that they passed undefeated teams. Ohio State last year had to earn their way to the top 4 spot, and didn't jump any undefeated teams, but since BAMA is BAMA they are allowed to jump whoever the hell they want.
>>63792570
I will bet you 100 cash that Bama does not drop out of the playoffs if they win out. You are the most autistic shithead on this board. Do you have a PayPal account?
>>63792570
Neither of those teams will jump Bama unless they have statement games like the 59-0 against wisconsin, or bama loses.
The bama losing is more likely desu, but we're talking about a bama that wins out.
>>63792626
>Ohio State last year had to earn their way to the top 4 spot
>lost to the worst team in the worst conference
>earn their way
>>63792626
So Bama winning out means they wouldn't be earning their way in? How is that any different from Ohio St? Who cares if they jumped teams, it all played out in the end. Iowa is the only undefeated team left that they've "jumped" and if they win they're in anyways.
>>63792641
That would require me to literally bet $200 the Clemsoning doesn't happen, root for Michigan State to win and end Ohio State's hopes entirely, trust Notre Dame to beat Stanford, trust FSU to beat Florida, and trust Stanford to win the Pac 12.
I don't trust any of those things enough to put money on that
>>63792731
*$100
>>63792731
Even if all of those things happen, and bama wins out, bama is in.
>>63792731
I'll give you 3 to 1.
>>63784768
You're a fucking moron B
UF's offense hasn't shown up lately but I doubt FSU will manage more than a 3 and out. Chad Kelly couldn't get a snap off during the Ole Piss game, and their offense is miles ahead of FSU.
FSU's kicker is the fucking truth though, and that might be enough to beat UF if they aren't able to make major changes.
>>63792778
That bet I would take
>>63791861
>>63792122
Did you watch the game? The offense gave TCU 7 possessions in the 3rd quarter. The defense had NO time to rest because the offense lost its key players. Thats how teams like Baylor, with mediocre defenses, can win. Their offenses staty on the field.
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