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Mizzou prez says changed needed, doesn't quit
Pinkel, AD support striking Missouri players
AP Top 25: Clemson takes No. 1
Big Ten: Referees proper on late Nebraska TD
Bama batters LSU; Tide makes statement
Tigers drop FSU
TCU's loss moves Stanford in playoff
Hogs top Ole Miss in OT
No. 3 Buckeyes overcome slow start, beat Minn.
Okla. State upsets No. 8 TCU; Doctson injured
Gators survive Vandy, clinch SEC East title
>>63447744
>Bama batters LSU
Hehehehe Corndogs
2nd for Navy
3rd for go gators
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Ohio State
4. Notre Dame
5. Baylor
6. Iowa
7. Oklahoma State
8. LSU
9. Stanford
10. Utah
11. Oklahoma
12. Florida
13. Michigan State
14. TCU
15. Michigan
16. Mississippi State
17. Northwestern
18. UCLA
19. North Carolina
20. Houston
21. Florida State
22. Temple
23. Navy
24. Wisconsin
25. Memphis
>>63448169
xth for go gators
>unc will become a dual elite football/basketball school in your lifetime
How many seasons does Spav have left? And Sumlin?
I wonder if those niggers at Mizzou would be boycotting if they had any meaningful games to play. hmmmmmmmm
>>63448186
Ok St will be ranked higher than Iowa
>>63448440
Only if A. Iowa wins out and B. OK Lite doesn't get raped by Baylor and/or Oklahoma.
>>63448261
>Spav
doesn't matter who replaces him because sumlin will just find another dumbass
>Sumlin
he's black so he won't be going anywhere. also has shit ton of connections in Texas recruiting. if he stops picking meme qbs maybe they will have a shot . hubenak looks promising
I am from the future.
Penn State wins the NCG this season, after winning the B1G and getting the fourth seed in the playoffs.
>>63448440
It'll be close. Dunno how willing the committee is to have a team jump from 14 to 6, possibly 5 if they hate Baylor that much.
>>63448488
>also has shit ton of connections in Texas recruiting.
After this season he's starting to lose his edge. Meanwhile, Baylor and the Oklahoma schools are looking more appealing to Texas recruits right now. At least A&M is still above Arkansas, Texas, TCU, and Tech.
>>63448608
Committee don't give a shit about "jumping" in the slightest. They start with a blank slate each week and rightfully dropped TCU 3 spots for the last poll last year.
>>63448707
>Rightfully dropped
I'm so sick and fucking tired hearing about Alabama's loss.
They turned the ball over FIVE times. 24 of Ole Miss 43 points came off of turnovers. The average starting field position on the first four scores off turnovers was the Alabama 23. Then you have a blown play turned into a ~70yd touchdown because of luck. Yet people want to delude themselves into thinking that Ole Miss was the better team instead of the reality that Alabama just straight up lost that game. Alabama actually outgained Ole Miss after turning the ball over 5 times. Without those turnovers and a luck TD, the score is fucking 37-12 if Alabama doesn't score on the 5 possessions they lost.
>>63448751
Assblasted Big 12/TCU fan detected
>>63448767
Easy there, Phyllis.
>>63448261
If A&M finish of the season 1-2 which is feasible because LSU always beats aggy and Vamderbilt has a legit defense that could easily shut down A&M's shitty offense.
If this happened Sumlin is gone. 4 seasons each worse then the previous.
There has been no player development with his upperclassmen.
Sumlin was lucky to find himself in a situation a Houston with Art Briles leftovers and Case Keenum at QB.
When he got to A&M he was lucky to have Mike Sherman's OL recruits and Manziel. His entire career was built on others work and now he is being exposed as a fraud.
>>63448767
Good thing turnovers aren't considered part of the game then, yeah?
>>63448767
>if
If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.
If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.
>>63448804
>>63448837
>>63448874
>>63448887
>Everybody has an issue with 1 loss Alabama being ahead of some undefeated teams
>Meanwhile, Ohio State lost to a 6-6 VT team last year and made it in
>>63448767
it doesn't even matter now. just gotta win out and we're in baby
Official AP Poll (in case it hasn't been posted):
1. Clemson
2. Ohio St
3. Alabama
4. Baylor
5. Oklahoma St
6. Notre Dame
7. Stanford
8. Iowa
9. LSU
10. Utah
11. Florida
12. Oklahoma
13. TCU
14. Michigan St
15. Michigan
16. Houston
17. North Carolina
18. UCLA
19. Florida St
20. Miss St
21. Temple
22. Navy
23. Wisconson
24. Northwestern
25. Memphis
>>63448767
And the Gators committed four turnovers, three in the red zone last week. And still won.
>>63448946
which undefeated p5 team did they jump?
>>63448261
Here's the thing - because he's kept winning bowl games he gets off light. He nabbed a monster hire with Chavis so that should keep Sumlin in for at least next season. But I'd be very surprised if Spav was in College Station come 2016.
Look at Oklahoma - they got humiliated last year and Castiglione told Stoops to fix his staff or he'd do it, including Mike. That's why Bob fired all the offensive staff. But even then Mike is on the hot seat and if OU shits the bed again then Mike's fired and Bob's on the hot seat next season. THAT's why OU has made such tremendous strides compared to last year - the staff was told to sink or swim. Until Sumlin gets that treatment the Aggies are going to be forever 8-5.
>>63448998
lol lsu's ranking got blown the fuck out
>>63449002
Congrats on barely beating Vandy, I guess?
>>63449004
they're currently ahead of both the big 12 undefeateds and iowa
>>63449061
Which is perfectly fine because one of those big 12s will lose to the other and Iowa has played Wisconsin and Northwestern, two teams that don't really deserve to be on the inside of the top 25.
>>63449061
i think everyone realizes Iowa isn't that good. But the B12 undefeateds might have a legit beef.
>>63449210
bama is clearly better than they are
Who /top4/ here?
>>63449210
>But the B12 undefeateds might have a legit beef.
They will literally play each other for a spot in CFP if they win out. Whoever wins the B12 will be in.
>>63449256
well, everyone thought the sec west was clearly better than everyone else last year too.
>>63449314
for now. if ok st or baylor can finish undefeated i expect they'd jump you
>>63449055
Thanks f a m
>>63449342
this year's bama is better than last year's
>>63449040
And they're still at least a couple spots to high
>>63449376
Oklahoma is going to win the B12. They performed better against Tech and K State, the latter of whom both Baylor and OK Lite struggled against while Oklahoma booty blasted 55-0.
>>63448220
>UNC will get the death penalty for 30 years of academic fraud in your lifetime.
>>63449440
ok senpai i'll just take your word for it then ;)
>>63449474
>too high
>>63449479
and they also got held to 17 in a loss to the might 2015 texas longhorns
>>63449635
how about that Ohio State-VTech game last year?
>>63449635
Texas will finish with the same amount of losses as Ole Miss desu
>>63449695
so you're saying a team shouldn't be judged on one bad performance? like, for example, Ok St and Baylor struggling against KSU?
Who sophomore QB here?
>>63449479
>2015
>Losing to Texas
>>63449762
Ok state has struggled in quite a few of their games m8
>>63449762
Well when OU beats them both it'll be moot :^) I'm talking about OU not showing up at the RRR.
>>63449061
i meant which undefeated p5 did ohio state jump last year
>>63448186
Wait a second so are we going to have to crush the SEC's dreams two years in a row?
>>63449866
TCU dropped from 3rd to 5th in the last week after drudging Iowa State 55-3. ohio State jumped them
>>63449957
>Losing to BayLOL
it's gonna take a while for the sec free passes to go away. 2006-2013 is still fresh in a lot of people's minds.
>tfw FSU and UMD lost in the same weekend again
>>63449983
what free passes?
>>63449957
TCU wasn't an undefeated p5 team
>>63450018
lose and not dropping far enough
being consistently overrated
etc
>>63449974
>>63450063
The question was "which p5 team did they jump"
>>63450018
Free passes like getting the #1 seed when there is still an undefeated team left
so has everyone accepted that officials made the right call at the end of the Nebraska- Michigan St game?
>>63450104
you're referring to last year? oregon was also ahead of FSU with a loss. is the Pac-12 getting free passes too?
>>63450090
>consistently overrated
last year was bad, but overall over the last decade or so I would say the SEC has done a pretty good job justifying its rankings in bowl season/OOC games
>>63450259
They didn't, but it doesn't matter because msu sucks dick
>>63450259
>right call
bahahHAHAHAHAHAHAAH WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THAT
MICHIGAN STATE LOST TO NEBRASKA
JOIN THE CLUB
>>63450315
this year with atm, ole miss, msst, arkansas, georgia, fucking auburn...come on. its still happening.
>>63450095
that's incorrect.
see: >>63449004
>>63450315
>1-6 in BCS/NY6 bowls over the past 3 years
>yeah, but if you go back far enough that none of the current players were playing, then 3 of our teams were really dominant
>>63450412
what exactly are you complaining about? those teams either came in to the season with hype or built it up by winning some games, then lost it by losing some games. Same thing happens in every conference
Ole Miss > Alabama > LSU > Mississippi St > Auburn > Texas A&M > Arkansas > Ole Miss
>>63450432
why would that be the question? Ohio State wasn't undefeated either.
>>63450509
Move Miss State behind A&M and you've got it.
>>63450487
>those teams either came in to the season with hype
over-hype
>built it up by winning some games
against similarly over-hyped sec teams
>>63450556
Miss St hasn't played Ark yet.
>>63450476
years during which the SEC was tied for first, first, and second in bowl winning percentage
>>63450599
But they lost to A&M and will more than likely beat Arky.
>>63450545
I'm not the one who asked it. Presumably because jumping a one loss team as a one loss team themselves isn't outrageous if they show that they're better. If they woulda jumped an undefeated it would've been bad.
>>63450412
>Preseason
Oregon rank 7, now 6-3 and unranked
USC rank 8, now 6-3 and unranked
Arizona State rank 15, now 4-5 and unranked
Georgia Tech rank 16, now 3-6 and unranked
I could find more of teams being ranked after winning a game against a ranked opponent and then losing games. Ranks before Week 10 are largely meaningless. Teams will be overrated, teams will be underrated. That goes for every conference.
I'm an Alabamafag. I agree that the SEC does get hyped up. The thing is, the SEC won enough times in the recent past to deserve it. That being said, the SEC is now on par, if not worse, than most other conferences. That partial favor is dissipating and will be gone within the coming years, depending on how well the SEC does in bowl games from here on out.
There's only 4 SEC teams in the top 25. This time last year there was 3 SEC teams in the top 5 and and 6 teams in the top 20.
>>63450509
Ole Miss > Alabama > LSU > Mississippi St > Auburn > Texas A&M > Mississippi State > Arkansas > Ole Miss > Auburn
>>63450676
>bowl winning percentage
Not the anon you're arguing with but are you saying the SEC deserves the respect if they clean up in the Toilet Bowls and get shit on where it matters?
>>63450696
>>63450730
It wasn't a ranking. It's a full circle of SEC west loses.
>>63450676
so their middling teams are superior to those of other conferences.
how does that justify 4 teams in the top 10?
>post your team and yfw how your team did Saturday
>Tennessee
>mfw
>>63450787
>Oklahoma
If they'd shown up against Texas we'd be a top 4 team right now
>>63450545
because someone initially drew a parallel between this year's alabama and last year's OSU. And Alabama is currently ahead of undefeated p5s. I don't think it's a huge deal because it should all get sorted in the next month. Nonetheless, the two situations wouldn't be comparable, because OSU didn't get in at the expense of an undefeated p5.
that's why that would be the question.
>>63450836
>not beating a team that was blanked by iowa state
>>63450836
I was gonna say /BoomerSooner/ bro. Congrats on that game in Knoxville a month ago. You guys earned it.
>>63450787
>Texas A&M
>>63450787
>TAMU
>mfw
>>63450787
>Clemson
>Your 2015 National Champions
>>63450882
Thanks Volbro. Y'all were good people when you came to Norman last year. Wish I could have made the trip to Knoxville.
>>63450904
>barely beating Vanderbilt
>hunger strike and football strike until the president resigns
Is the president resigning supposed to fix the racist Missouri residents? If I change shampoos will I cure global warming?
>>63450904
that empty space after 2008 is triggering me. florida needs to win another natty so it looks symmetrical
>>63450904
Do the SEC a favor and lose to Bama, because there is no way they are going to put you in the playoffs.
>>63450787
>Clemson
Honestly I'm just glad >we didn't get blownout in >our first game with the #1 ranking
>Florida
>>63450918
Anytime Soonerbro. I had a couple Sooner fans I met at work the day after and they were very good people and they said our fans were very welcoming and that made me smile. We've been through some tough times but we always stay humble and welcome fans of all types except Vandy fans fuck those guys.
>>63450762
I'm saying he cherry-picked a noisy statistic
>>63450775
Because we're also not that far removed from a 7-year national championship streak, and with pre/early season rankings you very often have little to go on except how the teams have performed in recent history? don't worry, if the SEC has another couple years like last year they'll fall back toward the middle in public perception. but looking back historically it's silly to say there isn't justification for people to at least expect the SEC to be a very good conference
>>63450787
the crimson. muhfuggin. tide
>>63451043
>Losing to Ole Piss
>>63451016
Expectations of very good are fine. I think the SEC is the best conference. But to think that 4-5 of the top 10-15 teams are consistently from there is just exhausting. Especially because bama accounted for like 1/2 of their success.
>>63451059
say that while u still can we gonna hold that trophy soon
>>63450836
>>63450882
>>63450787
>>63451014
Seriously OU, what the fuck. And Tennesee? c'mon, hurting the stock bro.
>>63451072
>Especially because bama accounted for like 1/2 of their success
And Urban was the rest.
>I. We demand that the University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a handwritten apology to the Concerned Student 1-9-5-0 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exist, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned Student 1-9-5-0 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admit to his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators.
>II. We demand the immediate removal of Tim Wolfe as UM system president. After his removal a new amendment to UM system policies must be established to have all future UM system president and Chancellor positions be selected by a collective of students, staff, and faculty of diverse backgrounds.
>III. We demand that the University of Missouri meets the Legion of Black Collegians' demands that were presented in 1969 for the betterment of the black community.
>>63451072
but like i was saying earlier, the whole conference has consistently performed well in bowl season
>>63450787
>Kansas
Don't care, basketball season is here
>>63451114
not the top 2-3 teams during the last 3 years.
>>63451110
>IV. We demand that the University of Missouri creates and enforces comprehensive racial awareness and inclusion curriculum throughout all campus departments and units, mandatory for all students, faculty, staff, and administration. This curriculum must be vetted, maintained, and overseen by a board comprised of students, staff, and faculty of color.
>V. We demand that by the academic year 2017-2018, the University of Missouri increases the percentage of black faculty and staff campus-wide to 10%.
>VI. We demand that the University of Missouri composes a strategic 10 year plan by May 1, 2016 that will increase retention rates for marginalized students, sustain diversity curriculum and training, and promote a more safe and inclusive campus.
>VII. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding and resources for the University of Missouri Counseling Center for the purpose of hiring additional mental health professionals — particularly those of color, boosting mental health outreach and programming across campus, increasing campus-wide awareness and visibility of the counseling center, and reducing lengthy wait times for prospective clients.
>VIII. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding, resources, and personnel for the social justices centers on campus for the purpose of hiring additional professionals, particularly those of color, boosting outreach and programming across campus, and increasing campus-wide awareness and visibility.
>>63450787
>Meeechigan
>mfw the B1G East is wide open again
>>63451110
>>63451152
>Missouri - The Dindu State
>>63451110
>>63451152
>you will never ever attend a racially segregated whites-only university
feels bad man
>>63451110
>>63451152
The University of Missouri shouldn't negotiate with terror groups desu
>>63451094
Fuck me for being humble right?
>>63451092
Not if you have to play OSU again ;^)
>>63451181
this desu senpai
>>63451110
>white male privilege
Did they actually fucking say that?
>>63451151
feel like we've already had this part of the conversation
>>63451190
this is a better bama team than last year's, and a significantly worse osu team
>>63451185
Let me clarify.
>OU what the fuck?
why did you lose to Texas
> And Tennesee? c'mon, hurting the stock bro.
Damnit Tennessee, you were supposed to be a quality win? Why the fuck did you lose to SC? Oh well, have a good season.
>>63449763
Driskel 2.0: Manlet Edition reporting in
>>63451224
Tennessee beat SCAR
>>63451224
We beat SC tho.
>>63451224
OU still has one of the toughest OOC schedules in the country and the most brutal November in the P5. If we win out we're in the playoffs.
>>63451223
>and a significantly worse osu team
they haven't hit their stride yet. let barrett get a few weeks of starts under his belt.
>>63451110
>>63451152
The best part is how they act like they're required to go to this school.
You are literally free to go to any college you can apply and get into. If you don't like Missouri go the fuck somewhere else.
God damn I hope Missouri doesn't cave to this. If they do we are gonna see it at schools everywhere.
>>63450775
>>63451072
Only time there were 4 SEC teams in the top 10 this year was week 7.
3 of those SEC teams were 3 of 12 undefeated P5 teams. The only undefeated teams that weren't in the top 10 were OK State, FSU, and Iowa.
OK State started out the season against 3 FCS teams and their best win by week 7 came against a KState team that had also played 3 FCS teams to start the season.
FSU started the season against 2 FCS teams and their best win by week 7 came against a 1 loss Miami team.
Iowa is Iowa and hasn't played anybody all year long.
If you want to get a jump in the polls early in the year, which will help you stay in polls later in the year if you do lose, you need to schedule a good first or second game.
Alabama played #20 Wisconsin. LSU's second game was against #25 Miss St. Florida's ranking came from beating #3 Ole Miss who had beaten #2 Alabama a week before.
>>63451151
>not the top 2-3 teams during the last 3 years.
Alabama lost to the eventual National Champions. Outside of beating them, you can't really ask for more than that.
>>63451251
>one of the toughest OOC schedules in the country
lmao no
>>63451251
Yeah man, Akron and Tulsa are pretty damn tough. Top that off with a stellar 5-4 Tennessee squad and Oklahoma's OOC is a nightmare for anyone else.
>>63451242
>>63451250
>>63451251
Oh shit
I thought they chocked
>>63451217
Yes, their first demand is that he publicly acknowledge his privilege. This is a real thing.
I don't know if I should laugh since no university could ever be pussy enough to cave into this garbage, or cry because I'm not so sure anymore.
>>63451251
Nah
If Clemson, Alabama, and Notre Dame win out and one of the Big ten schools go undefeated then you'll be shut out
>>63451269
can he make it that long without getting another dwi lol
Also thread joke:
What else does the O on Oregon's helmet stand for besides Oregon?
>>63451308
oregano
>>63451308
"Of" as in University OF Oregon.
>>63451277
>only time this year
do you realize how silly that sounds? that's the whole fuckin point
>>63451223
>feel like we've already had this part
yeah, i hear you coming up with explanations for unacceptable practices. doesn't excuse it.
>>63451304
>Clemson beats Notre Dame
>both get to the playoffs
Right. I'm also liking Stanford against the Irish.
I've got Clemson/Bama/B10 winner/B12 winner
>>63451342
ur killin me bruh shit
>>63451349
I can't think of a single time in recent history that the championship game was a rematch of a closely contested regular season game.
>>63451110
>>63451152
>Some dude is a memer and yells nigger
>Some dude is an epic memer and makes a swastika with poop in a dorm
>Zero way to identify and punish these people
>"Why don't you do anything Mr. President? Are you a racist? Did you yell nigger and smear shit on the wall? Fuck you, you KKK member! #Blacklivesmatter"
>>63451323
>>63451342
Good guesses but nope it stand for how many rings and National Championships they have.
>LITERALLY NO NATTYS
>KEKS
>FUCKS
>SUCKS
>>63451375
Bama-LSU 2 - Electric Boogaloo was the beginning of the end of the BCS. If the committee does a rematch they'll catch all kinds of hell.
>>63451110
>>63451152
Nick Lee coming hard in the paint senpai
>>63451349
Why would that matter
Notre Dame's loss would be to a playoff team
Oklahoma's is to Texass, who somehow found a way to one-up Virginia Tech's shitty season
>>63451399
Don't blame the SEC
They wanted the playoff first
>>63451399
if OU wins the big 12 and has a bad loss to a common opponent of an ND team that beats the pac 12 champion, only big12fags will be complaining. And the people who bitch about anything they can regarding ND, that's a loud group too.
>>63451357
it could also stand for the second "O" in the word Oregon
>>63450787
>Florida
>mfw homecoming curse continues
i have gotten in touch with the protesters at missouri and informed them that some white people are laughing at them in a 4chan thread. they said they will stand down within the hour
>>63451531
kek
>>63451251
still have to have a few things fall into place but if they win out I would say they have about an 80% chance of going to the CFP
>get scholarships and incentives to go to college just because you are black
What systematic racism to these kids encounter?
>take their scholarship away
>allow them to transfer to any other school that they choose
What is the problem with this?
>>63451556
Probably more like 30%
>>63451570
>get free school
>get free food
>get free white girl pussy
that feel when you will never have black athlete privilege
>>63451579
who are you saying should do this?
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/mizzou-player-strike-raises-fascinating-questions-110815
>>63451600
Missouri.
Part of an athletic scholarship is to, yanno, compete in athletics. If they wanna quit that's fine, they can pay their Missouri tuition or xfer.
Seems like an easy enough fix.
>>63451344
>do you realize how silly that sounds? that's the whole fuckin point
Literally every single time it happens it's because those teams are part of the undefeated crowd and/or a rank ~10-15 knocks off a rank 1-10 and they swap places.
SEC Bowl Wins.
2007-2008, 9 bowls, 7-2, 77.8% win. National Champions, LSU. They beat OSU.
2008-2009, 8 bowls, 6-2, 75% win. National Champions, Alabama. They beat Texas.
2009-2010, 10 bowls, 6-4, 60% win. National Champions, Florida. They beat Oklahoma.
2010-2011, 10 bowls, 5-5, 50% win. National Champions, Auburn. They beat Oregon.
2011-2012, 9 bowls, 6-3, 66.7% win. National Champions, Alabama. They beat LSU in the rematch.
2012-2013, 9 bowls, 6-3, 66.7% win. National Champions, Alabama. They beat Notre Dame.
2013-2014, 10 bowls, 7-3, 70% win. National Champions, FSU. They beat Auburn.
2014-2015 12 bowls, 7-5, 58.3% win. National Champions, OSU. They beat Alabama and Oregon.
8 straight years of winning or competing for a national title. 8 straight years of winning more bowl games than losing. It's probably a longer streak than that but I can't be fucking bothered to spoonfeed you more than I already have.
Stay.
Fucking.
Mad.
>>63451604
lmao clay travis is universally despised
>>63451581
What needs to happen is
1. They need to win out and Baylor looks like the biggest hurdle.
2. Notre Dame has to lose. Most likely to Stanford
3. Stanford needs to lose to anyone but Notre Dame
A. Alternatively, Clemson and UNC both need to lose before they face each other at the ACC ship, then either ND or Stanford can win out and OU should be fine
B. Same story but Bama has to lose the Iron Bowl then go on to win the SEC ship.
Assuming win-outs, the current order goes Clemson > Bama > Ohio State > Notre Dame > Stanford > Oklahoma
>>63451604
>outkickthecoverage
>clay travis
>>63451624
You have 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 mixed up
>>63451641
If you it that way then it's like less than 5%
>>63451657
I wouldn't be surprised if I have more mixed up. Worked 13 hours today and don't give 2 shits about 100% accuracy.
>>63451614
I don't even know where to start. It would destroy the football program for years. It would look insanely bad to kick student-athletes out for exercising their right to protest a situation that many people in the school and around the state and the country perceive to be a serious problem. and the school is hardly in solidarity against the protesters - it's looking much more likely that the prez will lose his job
>>63451624
i'm not mad. the past 3 years have shown that such lines of thought are highly flawed.
>>63451707
>Let them boycott the final games. They keep their scholarship for the year.
>Come next year, if they refuse to play, they lose their scholarship and their position on the team.
>Win/win
>>63451744
you've addressed, uh, nothing. just sort of drawn things out a little bit
>>63451752
M8, the solution is to literally do nothing and let the NCAA sort it out/be the bad guy
>>63451707
Thats not true at all. The protestors are pretty well-loathed by everyone outside of the worst of sjws. Although I am starting to worry the powers that be may soon give in and fire Wolfe
>>63451752
By allowing them to boycott and keep their scholarship, you're not "supporting" the racism. If you were to take away their scholarships and kick them off the team, you'd be supporting the nigger shouters in the eyes of the retarded public.
By rescinding their scholarships the next year, you're not supporting the big bad racists but you're also not letting a bunch of students push you around.
Also, there's literally no winning in this situation.
>>63451707
OK then here's the alternative.
You can't field a football team for your final 2 or 3 games, whatever it is. You have to refund tickets and everything else for those games. TV networks who were going to carry the game now have no game, and the advertisements which were bought in that game have to be paid back or partially refunded. So then the SEC has to reimburse the TV network since the SEC didn't uphold their end of the deal to provide a game. So then Missouri loses a big cut of their SEC TV money and revenue sharing since the SEC had to pay their bills for not fielding a team. So then the Missouri athletic department loses a fuckton of money, money which funds literally all of their other sports programs. While they could operate in the red for a year, the long term effects from downsizing all of those programs would be felt long term.
All because some ppl got mad over a swastika made out of poop.
An athletic scholarship is a written agreement to play a sport for tuition and other expenses, assuming you're physically able to do so. By voluntarily sitting out you are forfeiting your end of the agreement and the scholarship is void.
>>63451707
>to kick student-athletes out for exercising their right to protest
They would not be kicked out in that scenario. They would have their football scholarships revoked since they refuse to play football. At that point, they can pay for their own education or leave. Nobody is forcing them to do anything. If someone was on an academic scholarship and they decided to protest by not going to class, their grades would tank and their scholarship would get taken away.
>>63451785
if that were true why would there be any danger of them giving in? and numerous alumni, missouri legislators etc have come out in the last couple of days in support of the protestors
>>63451776
the NCAA isn't gonna touch this with a ten foot pole
>>63451793
Missouri would be better off having open tryouts and fielding a team of walkons to uphold their end of the TV agreement if it comes to that.
It would probably be the greatest television ever.
>>63451801
Exactly. If they outright REFUSE to play football, why would the school let them keep a football scholarship? Their free education is entirely contingent on their participation in the football program.
>>63451793
wait so... you're arguing that the scholarships should be taken away, by giving a long list of bad things that will happen if the scholarships are taken away?
>>63451801
by "kicking out" i meant taking away scholarships
>>63451788
i think it would be pretty obvious why you were taking away the scholarships, and people wouldn't be any happier about it
if it's not been posted yet, who is in your play-offs prediction?
Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama, and Notre Dame for me. No idea on the order.
>>63451868
And by posted yet, I meant posted this thread
>>63451867
No you take their scholarships away and a lot of them will say fuck that's not worth it and quit protesting. Who cares if you lose a handful of players, Missouri is shit anyway.
Reports out that a lot of the Missouri players are pissed at these protesters too.
>>63451896
so you take their scholarships but then give them back if they stop protesting? that seems functionally identical to the situation we have now.
>>63451484
but we won
>>63451924
No you announce that any player who protests the upcoming game is free to remain a student and finish their semester, but are losing their athletic scholarships. Most will cave, and the ones that don't can't continue to be regular students or they can transfer to a school that doesn't make racist poop symbols.
I mean, if a kid with an academic scholarship gets Fs then they lose their scholarship.
>>63451960
And you think this wouldn't exponentially increase the intensity of the protests among the student body as a whole? along with any number of other negative consequences for the university
What the fuck is this
http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll-voter/jon-wilner
>>>b>>650933905
what the fuck is this shit
>>63448440
Oklahoma State wins one game over someone that matters and everyone loses their goddamn minds.
Meanwhile Iowa has two on the road over teams that are 7-2 and everyone shits on them.
We won't play them in football this season but it will feel really fucking good kicking their ass at Kinnick in wrestling on Saturday anyways.
Maybe Iowa State can somehow pull a miracle out of their ass and ruin their season Saturday like they did on that Friday night a few years ago
>>63450787
>Texas Tech
>>63452140
Well they possibly could play each other.
If both teams run the table and Iowa beats Ohio State in the Big 10 title game, they could easily be put together in the semis or maybe even find themselves playing against each other in the championship game.
>>63452207
And if that happens then Ok St deserves it. They would have gone through OU and Baylor and deserve it.
However jumping them from 14 to 4 in the committee rankings while meaningless right now is a fucking stretch.
The Notre Dame fans would be even more pissed off but fuck those asshats
>>63450787
>Clemson
>>63450975
>that gif
kek
>>63449820
>RRR
had to think about what that meant... they fagged it all up in renaming it. should still be the red river shootout.
>>63451831
This. It's be amazing television. Commentary would be fucking hilarious: give a bio of one of like 70 walk ons then watch him fucking explode on the next play
daily reminder that if you live in the Southeast, you are surrounded by roodypoos.
>love CFB
>could not give less of a shit about the NFL
Is this normal?
Can anyone explain this protest thing to me? The president of a school got caught making swastikas with his own shit on campus or something? That seems like grounds for dismissal to me, what's the problem?
>>63453076
A white boy was super drunk and called a black person a nigger a few months ago.
Then an unidentified person, likely super drunk, drew a swastika on a wall in shit.
The second is stupid because the swastika is way more attached to Antisemitism than racism nowadays, and the first is stupid because I guaranfuckingtee you the players are calling themselves and each other niggers in the locker room each day.
And apparently the president is responsible because he didn't drop everything in his life and comfort these poor oppressed minorities who had their fee-fees hurt.
Daily reminder that Iowa will be in the playoffs and there is nothing anyone can do about it
>>63449794
Bama losing to ol miss
>>63453792
Ole Miss is a great team in a great conference. Losing to them is an honor.
>>63453407
Why not just yank their scholarships and send the retarded niggers back to the ghetto?
>>63453407
bawwww he didn't create a safe space for these poor oppressed blacks who are triggered by the most inane shit
How long until white people say that enough is enough and tell niggers to grow up and start acting like adults? Boo hoo someone said a word you didn't like that you use every 20 seconds. Who gives a shit? People don't have to like you. That's life.
>>63448767
>"They didn't beat us, we just beat ourself"
Saban please leave. Your excuses get worse and worse for each loss you get(which has started to become a regular thing)
>>63448946
yeah, but Ohio State turned it over a few times and VT had some luck TDs. Ohio State was the better team, they just straight up lost that game
>>63450095
It actually wasn't dipshit. He said undefeated.
>>63450509
Ohio State> Northern Illinois >Toldeo > Arkansas > Ole Miss > Alabama > LSU > Florida
>>63451223
You guys lost to the guy that was in charge of making Ohio State look like shit this season. Just wait for when you actually play Ohio State with Barret at qb. He's the kind of meme that will eat your defense alive. If Barret and Ohio state were to play Bama now, Barret would easily have 300+ yards passing and 100+ yards rushing. Not to mention he has Zeke the freak lined up behind him who gave you a whooping last year harder than William Tecumseh Sherman.
>>63451570
Not getting enough jewgold from the University to spend on tattoos and handguns
Imagine how pissed off you would be if you were on the football team and half of your team just decided it wasn't going to play? I'd be fucking furious and already trying to find a way to transfer. Feel bad for the seniors on the team who will have their last year of football ruined because of a bunch of selfish, unappreciative, uppity niggers. Fucking hate niggers.
>>63454327
>thread full of hateful shit talking
>about how black people exaggerate the amount of hate they have to deal with
you guys might be right, but you're undermining your whole point
>>63453068
I only watch the NFL nowadays for fantasy football. My roommates wont let me watch my Browns play, so I kind of stopped caring about the NFL.
>>63454346
Would those niggers be doing this if they were undefeated or a contender to win the East?
>>63454381
I have no idea, but its irrelevant to my post
>>63454386
The answer is no. They wouldn't be doing this shit if they were doing well this year.
>>63454346
>about how black people exaggerate the amount of hate they have to deal with
yeah it's really bad that they are not let into certain places and are physically assaulted at random by whites
oh wait, all this "hate" they have to deal with is just drunk college kids saying nigger?
this thread is about their unreasonable butthurt. so you're a bunch of big, bad SEC football players, but there's such a racist environment at your school that you have to ruin your team's football season to make a stand? that's horseshit and everyone knows it.
they have gotten their asses whooped by every decent team they've played, some black kid goes on a hunger strike, and it's the perfect opportunity to quit.
i'm praying that their scholarships get yanked. also, they ruined the program for a long time coming. good luck getting your big tall white O linemen now.
>>63449210
But the Big 12 is a joke. They play nobody.
TCUs only argument for strength of schedule is Baylor, and vice versa. It's an infinite loop with no substance.
>A Missouri Tigers player said Sunday night that the entire team is not united over the decision to stop practicing until grad student Jonathan Butler ends his hunger strike.
>"As much as we want to say everyone is united, half the team and coaches -- black and white -- are pissed," the player, who wished to remain anonymous, told ESPN. "If we were 9-0, this wouldn't be happening."
>"Not everyone agrees with the decision [to stop all football activities]," the player said. "Most people are pissed, including the black guys [on the team]."
>>63454487
as far as they are concerned, its a handful of bad apple whites becoming police and killing black teenagers. that's somewhat higher stakes than hearing a drunk teenager use a slur. whether or not you think that's legit, its what they are scared of. And when they perceive the college's administration tolerating someone being outwardly hateful at a time in which these issues are relevant to national consciousness, its not shocking that a bunch of college kids are going to try to "make a change". And they aren't quitting, I guarantee you they are going to keep playing if this dude steps down.
Making a thread with a bunch of people saying "lol I can't believe these unappreciative niggers think that people hate them. I hope these people I never met lose their scholarships for overreacting to people saying nigger!" undermines the very point you are trying to make.
>>63454424
that's hypothetical, and still irrelevant. thank you for the speculation on the topic, we've all gained from it.
>>63454521
nigger lover detetcted
>>63454515
I'd be pissed too. If I went to school to play football and I couldn't because of a bunch of morons trying to further their fringe agenda.
>>63454495
so much this
TCU's only argument is their Ole Miss beatdown last year on New Year's Eve. Ooo they took down a big bad SEC West team, the bama-killer team. The same team that has days where they get shut out by Arkansas or they lose to fucking Memphis.
Similarly Baylor's argument all comes from it's 'high-powered' offense, winning games 205-156 by running up the score against teams that have no chance at stopping any competent offense in the top half of Power 5 schools.
Okie State blowing out TCU was a well-deserved end to this meme. Big 12 will gain its foothold back when balanced teams like Oklahoma and Oklahoma State get back to being good and winning bowl games.
>>63454327
I hope Matty Mauk transfers to another school or Div-II school soon.He shouldn't be set by an example from a welfare state school.
Would this Mizzou shit be happening upset President Trumps watch?
>>63454521
>"lol I can't believe these unappreciative niggers think that people hate them. I hope these people I never met lose their scholarships for overreacting to people saying nigger!" undermines the very point you are trying to make.
we do hate them. i hate these types of people, period, black or white. they should be hated. there is no honor in what they are doing.
i bet you think michael brown was just an innocent, precious little soul, even though there are mountains of evidence (and a police history) that B you TFO
>>63454599
This.
>>63454595
Trump is going to go down in the history books as the world's greatest mastermind after he wins the presidency and funnels as much of America's assets into his own funds and companies as he can then jumping ship before anyone figures it out.
>>63454631
Bernie kek pls go back to reddit.
Ever think that maybe he genuinely wants to make America great again ?
Reminder that ND has zero BCS wins
Reminder that Bama lost to a three loss team and literally only has one decent win
>>63454583
When will Big XII finally gets their own championship game anyway
>>63454642
In no way shape or form lol. I think he's smart as shit and only looks out for one man, Donald Trump. In his mind he hears "make Trump great again"
I'm voting red this year (I alternate red and blue depending on the last incumbent; it's important not to let any party do too much of what they want), but I hope it's someone else.
If you are a high school kid with a few scholarship offers and Missouri was one of the schools you were looking into, aren't you most certainly looking elsewhere at this point?
>>63454631
So you oppose trump because you've created an alternative reality where he steals from the government. You don't even state the issues but simply your delusion that you are living in
>>63454663
We used to have one.
>>63454663
With all the Group of Five success we've been seeing recently, I wouldn't be surprised if the Big 12 poaches two schools to have a real championship game.
Memphis could've really given themselves a shot if they hadn't lost to Navy. I was thinking Memphis and Cinci.
>>63454687
I oppose Trump because I trust him about as far as I can throw him. Nothing he says seems genuine to me, I've seen him media a long time.
Policy-wise I think the country needs a stint of red, but character is important to me as well.
>>63454688
until Texas fucked everything up.If they leave leave you won't see any progress on having the Big XII football championship return to prominence.
It's sad how southwest football becomes like this
>>63454732
Imagine the Big 12 back with Nebraska and Texas A&M. Basically replace Missouri/Colorado with TCU and WVU. That sounds like a fun conference. Nebraska in the bee one gee still weirds me out.
>>63447744
Carpet is appalling.
>>63452140
>beating Oklahoma State in wrestling
they have like 34 national championships
>>63454599
now ur projecting m8
>someone said nigger on a college campus
>better try to get the President fired and tell him to apologize for being born white
Why are niggers so fucking retarded?
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015/11/fsu-clemson-ratings-abc-three-year-high-overnights-college-football-ohio-state-notre-dame/
>3rd highest overnight for a college football game all year
Didn't beat LSU-Bama, but beat the shit out of Minnesota-Ohio State
So eat shit that guy who said Ohio State would get a better rating
>>63455431
that was a fun game to watch, too.
>>63455431
FSU has a lot of fans that probably came out of the woodwork to watch an important game. Im sure a lot of people just tuned in hoping they'd see clemson lose
>>63455543
The difference between Bama-LSU and Clemson-FSU was smaller (6.3-5.5) than compared to Clemson-FSU and Minnesota-Ohio State (5.5-3.0)
Labor Day night games are always an outlier
I think Clemson's most viewed game is still their Labor Day game back in 2007
Well he did it. The pussy resigned.
>first open faggot in NFL
>niggers running an entire college campus
The city of Mizzou
What SEC team do we get to fug in the chick fil a bowl?
>>63455869
Actually the Peach Bowl is a New Year's six bowl
You get a Big 12 team in the Russell Athletic
>>63455869
Mississippi State or Ole Miss.
>>63451391
>>"Why don't you do anything Mr. President? Are you a racist? Did you yell nigger and smear shit on the wall? Fuck you, you KKK member! #Blacklivesmatter"
i'd pay that president's salary if he showed up for his apology and said, "I did it. I created the Shitsticka. I am the Batman."
>>63455408
now that's what i call projection
>>63455916
Don't use words if you're not quite sure what they mean, champ.
refs made a bad judgment call, but making bad judgment calls isn't technically against the rules
it's cool tho our (injured) secondary doesn't deserve a 1-loss season
>>63455898
>You get a Big 12 team in the Russell Athletic
TCU?
>>63455146
you gotta work on understanding the unfolding context of the discussion you are trying to participate in.
see
>>63450872
>>63454599
if your hate is race-neutral, why are you spamming a race-specific slur while making your point?
and the whole last line you said is completely incorrect, I guess you can only think in memes and make wild projections, kek
>>63454583
you are talking about teams in different seasons m8. that's not how it works at all
>>63454647
What about Texas A&M and Georgia? They are in the Sec, so they are obviously impressive wins.
>>63454647
Reminder that Bama is the best team in the country and no amount of butthurt crybaby bullshit on the internet is going to stop them from winning it all.
>>63456202
just be glad you don't have to play ole miss again.
>>63456202
No, but Ohio State will surely stop them.
>>63456144
Well all of TCU's preseason ranking was based on their bowl win and last season. So either we throw that away and TCU is just another team that hasn't beat anyone of note, or we consider what kind of quality win that Ole Miss beatdown was.
>>63449483
>NCAA will punish a blue blood basketball school
Pacific will get 2 years to make up for it.
>>63456232
Redemption win is going to be awesome. Now don't blow it by losing to Michigan or Michigan State.
should i get sweet n sour chicken or general tso's for lunch?
>>63456457
How is it a redemption win, when Ohio State won the last won?
>>63456466
>not getting sesame chicken fried rice and eggroll meal
>>63448767
daily reminder that tOSU had 5 turnovers in their national championship game
>>63448946
they were ranked 13 when the rankings came out then everyone ahead of them kept losing and the big 12 fucked themselves over by being the only "power" conference to not have a conference championship game. Their is no reason bama should be in the top four when the rankings came out when their were so many undefeated teams still left. it's a moot point now though they'll be number 2 tomorrow and ND will take the 4th spot tomorrow
>>63451624
07-13 were all handed to sec. 11 was LITERALLY handed to the sec. the fact that you have to brag about that level of corruption is telling.
5 of those 8 years with a bowl winning percentage under 70 is pretty shitty, desu.
your goalposts have moved so far that now the standard of success is:
>winning OR COMPETING FOR a national title
you sec fans are so fucking pathetic
>>63453407
honestly, i think it's far more likely that the swastika was drawn by some sjw or jew or nigger themselves as a false flag to create these demands.
it's like someone putting up an extremely offensive sign, then writing "bernie sanders" on the bottom then demanding that bernie sanders withdraw from the presidential race.
>>63457169
Found the bitter faggot who needs to get laid and stop bitching about some shit that happened 4 years ago
>>63457077
It doesn't count because they weren't playing at home in the SEC.
>>63457200
how am i bitter? you sec faggots are now claiming "hurr durr look how great we are because we have a bunch of mnc's and we COMPETED FOR even more than that!"
also:
>you post a bunch of shit that happened 4 years ago
>i critique it
>you yell "stop bitching about some shit that happened 4 years ago"
sec logic, ladies and gentlemen. don't let your children attend "schools" in the south or they might end up this lobotomized.
>>63457223
>there is only one person in this thread that thinks im a faggot
Not even who you were talking to dude.
Have these threads ever been anything but SEC bashing/shitposting. It's literally the same argument in every new thread. Holy shit it's the most unoriginal general (and thats saying something) on /sp/
>>63457240
regardless, i responded to a post about shit tha happened 4 years ago...a post that was made by an sec apologist, and you say that i am the one bitter about shit that happened 4 years ago. if anything, he's the one bitter about it because he's the one that brought it up.
>>63457264
Occasionally we fuck your mom when we get bored.
>>63457264
unfortunately, it's necessary to offset the insane media brainwashing and sec ballwashing that goes on week in, week out. this is one of the advantages of the internet is that you can actually get differing voices instead of just "sec is greatest sec is greatest sec is greatest" over and over and over for 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
sec got exposed last year. they are overrated and people need to know this.
>>63457271
Dude I'm an Alabama fan. I don't give a shit about the rest of the SEC.
All Alabama has to do is win their games and we are in. Year in year out. Same goes for your team.
Stop trying to stroke your conference dick and just hope your team can win when they need to.
>>63457292
last 3 years
>>63457264
>Have these threads ever been anything but SEC bashing/shitposting.
were you here a couple years ago? it was a literal SEC circlejerk. just walls of
SECSECSECSECSECSECSECSEC
SECSECSECSECSECSECSECSEC
>>63457326
That's called ironic shitposting, anon.
>>63457353
no doubt some of it was.
>>63457296
let's get one thing straight: NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY STROKES THEIR CONFERENCE DICK EXCEPT SEC FANS.
sec fans started it, and no one else has ever joined in. this is the new sec tactic: accuse everyone ELSE of doing what sec fans have been caught doing red-handed.
face it, sec is shit. bama is the only decent team in that conference. all the other fans just piggyback off of bama's success.
>>63451948
Yeah, but we always play terribly during homecoming games it seems.
>>63457383
it's that stupid fucking southern regionalism again. it used to be "southern speed", then it became SEC speed, and now it's just SEC conference.
>>63457387
Nobody gives a shit. OSU isn't going to repeat dude. Now go eat some cum and shut the fuck up.
There was a shooting g star at the last osu game. Basically confirms repeat.
>>63457498
Apparently the gophers could.
>>63457498
my mother could field a team of autistic toddlers and beat tOSU
>>63457567
so your mom is a better coach than nick saban?
>>63457546
If JT was at quarterback, Ohio State's score would've been doubled.
>>63457567
So last year's Virginia Tech team is the only team in the past two years that has been on par with autistic toddlers?
>>63457607
>>63457627
yes and yes
Hey guys I'm here for the cum fiesta.
>>63456093
the context doesn't matter in the face of facts. His hypothetical didn't exist so i put forth the legitimate (and real world) alternative. How hard is that to understand?
>>63457912
>Talking about football in a cum thread
Please stop being a faggot.
>>63457296
Alabama should give that spot up to a team that will actually win in the playoffs.
Bama is like the Bengals. Give it to a more deserving team
>>63457965
>better get in my last few weeks of shitposting because deep down i know Alabama is winning it all this year
Your jelly is showing.
Where did all the LSU shitposters go?
>>63457997
Giving swamp tours and crying.
>>63457987
>0 (zero) playoff wins in team history
>tfw your schools RB breaks the conference record for TDs in a games and has the most in a game this season
YFW Bama loses to MSU and LSU loses to Ole Piss.
I have decided, after searching far and wide, subjecting myself to innumerable idiotic posts across many college football message boards, that the most delusional fans in all of college football are those of Penn State and Tennessee
>>63458305
Nope. Still Georgia
>>6345829
Bulldogs goin all the way baby
Any good cfb podcasts out there? I listen to The Solid Verbal but looking for others.
Also has anyone tried to make a /cfb/ podcast or would it be just audio shot posting?
>>63458305
What >>63458326 said. Georgia thinks they are a powerhouse and an elite program, when their history has only one or two seasons to it. They can't even recruit the hotbed of talent that is in their own state. Yet year after year Georgia gets a high preseason ranking, and proceeds to blow it, yet year after year, Georgia fans still think their school is a powerhouse
>some people think georgia and tennesse are bluebloods
>>63458383
me and your mom made a podcast with my dick
>>63458326
I have no personal bias towards or against Georgia and I really don't agree. Penn State fans have been arguing they have a chance at winning their conference even post-blowout losses to Temple and OSU. They still argue they'll win out against Michigan and Michigan State. I don't think they actually watch their own team. Tennessee fans seem to think they're the most prestigious program in college football. They also think their recruits are all the best at their positions, but have epic meltdowns whenever they lose out on a highly rated recruit even if everybody else on the planet knew that recruit wasn't going to Tennessee for a long time. Georgia fans are not as bad as either of them.
>>63457874
it's not hard to understand. people were complaining that alabama is ahead of unbeaten p5 teams. someone else pointed out that ohio state had a loss last year. in response to this, it was noted that ohio state didn't jump over any undefeated teams.
what point are you trying to communicate beyond that?
btw context always matters.
Who do you guys think is the most underrated team this year?
>inb4 Memephis
>>63458431
Tennessee might be considered a blue blood, but definitely not Georgia by any stretch of the imagination. They won one legit national championship in their history. Their other national championship came during WW2 when most schools were either fielding a barebones football team or not fielding any football team at all. Georgia, however, kept hold of all their players and staff because Georgia football was apparently more important than stopping the Axis.
The point I'm trying to make is that Georgia literally supports Hitler and is not a blue blood.
>>63449905
which one of your five-star draft bust nigger quarterbacks do you want us to break first?
>>63458487
That was a gross simplificaiton of the thread but in any case they jumped a team that arguably deserved a shot. Im not saying Ohio State didnt or anything. Im simply stating they jumped a good TCU team, or rather, TCU fell 2 spots after a great performance. Speaking of context, mine actually takes context into account. Any statements otherwise, even the initial question, was asinine because 1. what it implied and 2. the context of that implication
>>63458505
Alabama
>>63447744
All power to the people desu senpai
>>63458505
Strictly teams that are/should be top 25, Temple. Including unranked teams, Cincinnati.
>>63458431
>mfw
>>63458565
Tennessee's not a blueblood by any definition
>>63458572
>They jumped a good TCU team
A TCU team that, if we're being honest, should never have even been in consideration due to the fact they lost their head-to-head with Baylor
>>63458505
Potentially Oklahoma State, should they beat Baylor and Oklahoma.
>>63458572
it literally is how the discussion started, it's not a gross simplification.
Here's the post that started it all:>>63448946
To which someone replied: >>63449004
and clarified: >>63449866
The point being that Ohio State's ranking last year does not excuse or explain Alabama's this year. The undefeateds being referenced aren't hypothetical, as you've wrongly interpreted. they are current year Iowa, Baylor and Ok St.
>>63458675
Trust me. I hate Tennessee with every single fiber of my body, but a history dating back to 1891, 6 national championships (from 1938 to 1998), 13 SEC championships, and a .680 win record is hard to argue with. Even though they suck shit now (and I hope that it stays that way), they're a historically dominant program.
>>63458754
Alabama fan here. Tennessee is a great football program with high prestige. Don't listen to that retard.
Fuck Tennessee by the way. Rocky top my dick in your mouth
OKST will beat Baylor, but lose to a 2-loss OU
>>63458754
Trust me. I know they're a historically dominant program, but they're not a blue blood. There's a HUGE gap in almost every measurable win %/ranking statistic between the top 8 programs and the next. A huge gap. And Tennessee is the first team on the unfavorable side of this gap, along with Penn State. If some people don't even consider Nebraska/Texas a blueblood, Tennessee is not even close to being one.
>>63458822
I consider all 3 and Harvard/Yale
>>63458702
Now you're jerking me around. Who did Ohio State lose to?
>>63458749
Its a gross simplification because the question was loaded on purpose
>>63458754
>not in the 700 club
>>63458855
fluke loss after losing starting QB. Ohio State was most dominant team in nation following their VT loss, plus they BTFO of MSU
only bluebloods are harvard, yale, and princeton
the rest are peppy upstarts
>>63458855
which question was loaded? Bama this year and OSU last year aren't comparable for a very specific reason.
>>63458754
Boise St has a .726 all time win percentage and 18 conference championships, must be a blue blood
If you went to LSU how quick do you think you'd kill yourself?
>>63458863
this desu senpai
>>63458754
6 *claimed national championships. 3 of them are real. Auburn, LSU, and Georgia all have about that many conference championships. .680 is good enough to be 12th, which is not elite. They're good but none of that is blueblood worthy.
>>63458863
who here /headcoachin900club/? Not so fast Nick
>>63458892
So VT was a fluke loss (to a 6-6 team) and TCU wasn't? Baylor literally had one of the most epic comebacks in recent memory.
>>63458911
Because it was obviously grasping for "SEE THERE WERE NO UNDEFEATED TEAMS THAT OSU JUMPED, SEE I WAS RIGHT" instead of relying on the much better "hindsight is 20/20" thing (OSU being the NC).
>>63458974
how can an initial response to an opening point be "see i was right". What thing could I be referencing that i was right about?
>>63458974
shitty OOC sched, no big 12 CG, etc
>>63458974
I think TCU was the better team than Baylor, but when two teams from the same conference have the same overall record and one of them won the head-to-head matchup it's shady as fuck to just give the nod to the team that lost anyways. Every single person in this thread knows it's impossible to solely off head-to-head because then only undefeateds would be left, but when it comes to two extremely similar teams playing for the same conference championship and ending the year with nearly identical results how do you not give it to the team that won?
>>63458822
I dunno. I've always consider the blue bloods to be:
Notre Dame (1887)
>.732 win record; 11 national championships
Michigan (1879)
>.730 win record; 11 national championships
Ohio State (1890)
>.722 win record; 8 national championships
Alabama (1892)
>.723 win record; 15 national championships
USC (1888)
>.702 win record; 11 national championships
Oklahoma (1895)
>.718 win record; 7 national championships
Texas (1893)
>.711 win record; 4 national championships
Nebraska (1890)
>.699 win record; 5 national championships
Tennessee (1891)
>.680 win record; 6 national championships
I do see what you mean about the gap though. I've just always thought of Tennessee as blue blood, but it definitely begs the question of "how many years of irrelevance does it take to lose blue blood?" Schools like Pittsburgh (1890; 9 national championships) and Minnesota (1882; 7 national championships) have certainly reached that point.
>>63458973
Don't mind me
>>63459044
>6 national championships
They have 4. As many as Illinois.
Can this end all blue blood debates ever?
>>63459022
This. It's not about who the better team is. It's about who the most deserving team is. TCU and Baylor were certainly better than FSU. It doesn't matter. FSU won all their games. TCU lost to Baylor. TCU was never in the title question at the end of the season (although the committee did tease them by putting them #3). It was purely OSU vs. Baylor.
>>63459110
That's literally exactly what I was saying...
>expected a 4-8 season before Beckman was fired
>expected a 2-10 afterward
>likely will go bowling
Who /oskeewowwow/ here?
>>63459044
>claimed national championships
intothetrash.jpg
Daily reminder
>>63459102
Yes. However, Nebraska is out. It's not just a list of accomplishments. It's a status. Nebraska does not have that status.
You knew Michigan would come back. Everyone knew it. They're Michigan. That's a status. The people that expect Nebraska to have a season like 1994 ever again are deep in the minority. They don't have that status.
>>63459003
Im talking about whoever had the original question.
>>63459152
which original question?
"which undefeated p5 did OSU jump last year"?
>>63459144
But how is Clemson below >Clemson
That shit don't make sense
>>63459127
>my school is so shit that they couldnt claim national championships because they were never in the picutre
Wanna blue blood muh dick
>>63459251
>my school is so shit that it has to claim ambiguous titles
>>63459150
True, I personally believe Nebraska should be considered a blue blood but for the sake of being objective and looking at all angles I actually brought up that exact point in the last blue blood debate. Nebraska's only about 12 years removed from major success (>only) so let's not forget that not too long ago Alabama was going through their program's worst stretch of history and was looking more like a pushover than a blue blood. That being said, Nebraska officially dropped out of the 700 club this season (I think if they win out they might be back in) so there's that - I think if they're mediocre/above average for another 5 years or so the status can officially be revoked. As for now I'm not really sure if there's a right designation for Nebraska or not.
>>63459251
>my school couldn't win their bowl game but they still won the championship because it makes me feel better
How about this lads?
Tier 1 (Blue Blood):
>Notre Dame
>Michigan
>Ohio State
>Oklahoma
>USC
>Alabama
>Texas
>Nebraska
Tier 2 (Blue Balls):
>Miami
>Florida
>Florida State
>LSU
>Penn State
>Tennessee
Tier 3 (Pretenders):
>Georgia
>Georgia Tech
>Auburn
>Michigan State
Tier 4 (They Tried):
>Virginia Tech
>Ole Miss
>Texas A&M
>Clemson
>>63450787
>Nebraska
we're coming for you Iowa
>>63459275
Alabama won the SEC in 1999, which is also the last year Nebraska did. Nebraska hasn't won a conference title in sixteen years, and they aren't really close. No other blueblood ever went that long without a conference title. Nebraska did that TWICE.
I don't deny Nebraska's accomplishments. But like I said it's a status, and they don't have it.
>>63459303
Solid list. No complaints
>>63459144
>No Harvard
>No Yale
>No Princeton
Cute list.
>>63459303
>No Harvard
>No Yale
>No Princeton
What's Minnesota going to do without Kill?
Srs replies only
>>63459466
lose more often.
>>63459466
be killed
>>63459466
get a new coach?
>>63459466
get Bielema
Princeton 28
Yale 27
Notre Dame 22
Alabama 19
Oklahoma 17
USC 17
Michigan 16
Ohio State 16
Harvard 12
Nebraska 11
Pittsburgh 11
Miami (FL) 9
Texas 9
Florida State 8
LSU 8
Minnesota 7
Penn State 7
Tennessee 7
How the fuck aren't Harvard Yale and Princeton blooblood tier?
>>63459536
because your mom loves the dick
>>63459446
>has played in FCS football for over 30 years
Anon this is bait of the lowest quality imaginable.
>>63459560
No urs
>>63459565
BACK IN MUH DAY THERE WAS ONLY ONE CONFERENCE AND IT WAS "THE" IVY LEAGUE
HARVARD WOULD BOOTY BLAST NOTRE DAME
>>63459637
this
>>63459303
>22 teams
This is all the FBS really needs tbhqffas
>>63459531
Bielema belongs in the SEC. He's the new HBC. except not as good at coaching.
>>63459804
Spurrier is the one and only HBC
>>63459823
true, but the sec needs another goofy quote machine that'll make an ass of himself. beilema is just perfectly suited for the sec.
>>63459852
on a scale of 1-10, how furious are you when you jerk off to the SEC
>>63458944
I go to LSU. I got belligerently drunk and depressed and came close but I pulled through. I might pull the plug next year if/when we lose to Bama again. Honestly though if LF7 can bounce back and have a great rest of the season and win the Heisman I'll be happy.
>>63459888
on a scale of 1-10 how mad were you Jan 1, 2015?
>>63460017
Ohio State didn't beat Alabama
Alabama beat Alabama.
A team as great as that cannot be beat by anyone other than themselves.
The real cbf rankings:
1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Notre Dame
4) Iowa
>>63460139
>>63460017
That's probably like a 12 or 13 on the "u mad" scale
>>63460139
Alabama last year wasn't that great, Alabama this year is worse. I honestly hate that LSU didn't play Saturday and now Alabama will get in and lose again just like last year. The SEC deserves better than Alabama every year no matter what. Not saying there aren't some worthy Alabama teams in the past just now where as many chances as Alabama gets.
>>63451059
>OSU lost to a barely bowl eligible VT their championship year
At least be fair N1GGER
>>63460268
>losing to Ole Piss
>doing it two years in a row
>losing to the likes of Bo fucking Wallace and Chad Kelly
>>63460254
Found the most bootyblasted nigga in the thread
notre dame would booty blast me
>>63460294
>losing to a team that went 6-6
Where were you when UF became memers
https://twitter.com/FloridaGators/status/663825286849515520
>>63460457
>losing to a team about to go 6-6
>>63460294
BTW I'm not even a Bama fan. I'm a fan of team that constantly splits games with Ole Miss.
>>63460471
Ole Miss is already 7-3 moron
>>63460499
7-5 then. They're not winning against LSU or Miss St.
>>63459852
Spurrier could win shit though. Also, Spurrier had a lovable charm to him. Bilema is just a big fat ass hole
tOSU
2. Bama
3. Clempson
4. Baylor
5. BootyBlasters
6. Iowa
7. LSU
8. Houston
9. Harvard
10. Northwest Missouri St.
>>63460469
The FloridaGators twitter account is shit. McElwain's twitter account is gold though.
>>63460536
Objectively, literally, unironically, officially, the greatest list ever concocted on Earth.
>>63460536
Where's Oklahoma?
>>63460987
Got bumped off for the Conference with more national championships than all others combined.
Next rankings are Tuesday at 7 again right?
>the B1G West is 6-5 against the B1G East
overrated as fuck desu
>>63461185
SEC West is like 9-1 over SEC east. Guess who has the one win :3
Anyone else hoping that IS-Who BTFO's OKST?
>>63459852
Yeah, there's definitely not another one of those in the SEC.
>>63461318
Iowa here. Pls do this
>>63461158
This rustled my fedora
>>63459228
yes
>>63459536
Because they played 2 teams a year to claim those
>>63459303
Teams ranked from high to low within tier, team the top has the highest chance of advancing to the next tier.
>Bleu bloods (historical blue blood+ multiple post 2k natty's)
Alabama >power gap
Ohio State
>New Bloods (At least 2 BCS championships + decent history)
LSU
Florida State
Florida
Miami* (they earm a share of OSU's natty)
Auburn (2004 undefeated also helps them pass the eye test)
>Purple Bloods (Historically good program with at least 1 BCS win, 2 natty's in the last 20 years, or 3 in the last thirty years)
Oklahoma
Tennessee
USC
Nebraska
>Mud Bloods (were once blue bloods or good tier but now are basically laughing stocks)
Michigan
Georgia >power gap
Penn State >power gap
Notre Dame
>>63461071
what?
>>63455130
>Ok St in charge of being relevant in NCAA wrestling the last ten years.
Ohio State, Penn State and Iowa laugh at the pathetic Big XII and their shit wrestling
>>63462011
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/wrestling/d1
Oklahoma State has 34 national championships in wrestling (31 official) and is currently ranked #1 in the nation, Penn State is #2, Michigan, Iowa, and Ohio State follow in that order.
>>63452243
>Notre Dame
bu... but muh tradition
>>63457194
>honestly, i think it's far more likely that the swastika was drawn by some sjw or jew or nigger themselves as a false flag to create these demands.
that's usually what it turns out to be
>>63462084
Ok St always gets overvalued at the start because MUH CHAMPIONSHIPS and then they go off the cliff and don't do shit.
Also fuck Cael Sanderson. Fucking hate that guy
>>63462117
>written in feces
it was probably a drunk
either way nothing to get up about
>>63462118
The Oklahoma State Cowboys have won more NCAA team championships than any other school, with 34 titles (including 3 unofficial), the most recent being won in 2006. The second most championships were won by Iowa with 23 NCAA titles. No other school has won more than eight times.[1]-wikipedia
>>63462118
>>63462165
They go head to head soon don't they?
so which one of you faggots did the swashitka?
>>63461814
so was i. how could that question possibly be construed as "see I was right"
it can't be.
>>63450787
>South Carolina
Praying we'll just beat Florida and Clemson
>doing whatever it takes to make sure rich whites go to other SEC schools
Post your face
>pic related. It's mizzou killing itself
>>63461158
>Michicuks rooting for their biggest rival
>still calling sparty little brother when he has never been on a team that has beat MSU
>>63462206
>people get sick of SJWs running their university
>mfw poop swastikas every week now
>>63462316
>Michicuks rooting for their biggest rival
Are you retarded m8? Why wouldn't they? It's the only way they can get to the B1G championship or >playoffs
>>63462328
starting tomorrow everyone ITT who goes to university needs to draw poo swastikas in at least one bathroom on their campus
>>63462165
>OK State
>NCAA team championships
gotta be because of wrestling, so nothing of import
>>63462376
Pathetic tbqhwyf. If they wanted to get to the B1G championship, then they shouldn't have blown a for sure win over sparty.
>>63462376
>michikeks
>>63452243
>notre dame fans would be mad that an undefeated p5 overtook them after notching a series of big wins
strongly disagree senpai. I mean, every fanbase has a handful of loud retards, but I can't see too many people who actually follow the sport following your post's prediction.
>>63462272
not literally, it seemed like one of those rhetorical questions, like "How many playoff wins does bama have again?"
So if you don't like your college's president, the correct strategy is to smear poop on bathroom walls?
>>63462484
m8 that's the correct strategy for dozens of issues. It's why i'm so successful.
>>63462484
>He doesn't smear poop on walls
How do you get by in life?
>yfw mizzou becomes an all-black college in the next ten years
>yfw they actually get kicked out of the conference because their academics are below even SEC standards
>yfw Missouri State becomes the best football program in the state
Has Mizzou said if they are going to give in to any of the demands other than the president resigning?
>>63462768
NorthWest Missouri State**
And they already are. They're top 10
1st college basketball general of the year, season starts in 4 days
>>63462554
>>63462554
As expected, and like i said, since bama and lsu are both so overvalued, the winner is being crowned and handed a trophy already.
Meanwhile UF is getting condemned for the close win, but when notre dame or ohio st eek out wins their praised.
Im so sick of this dicksucking fest.
>>63448767
There was some luck but for a large part of that game ole miss fuckong dominated.
If anything alabama just fought back to make the score respectable
>>63462303
I wonder how many alumni donations they're gonna lose because of this.
>>63461818
Gosh this post is stupid.
What do you guys think of Mahavishnu Orchestra and Oklahoma's chance to win out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU4yAk6qYUs
>>63450787
>Fordham
My parents were up for the weekend. One of them joked about it being like a high school game. Whatever, we still won.
>>63450904
As happy as it would make me, not without Grier.
>>63451180
>BYU
>>63448767
Well it doesn't really matter now. There's a lot of things that went wrong during that game and there were a lot of chances to make it right. Saban should never have started Barrett. I'm not sure exactly what he was trying to do there, but whatever. You really don't even have to factor in the turnovers. Just subtract the helmet catch and that could have been a win.
It's all working out in the end desu. State is gonna be a good game and Auburn always plays up in the Iron Bowl no matter how shitty they're feeling.
>>63463663
It's alright. We were expected to finish 4th or 5th in the SEC East and barely make a bowl game this year.
>>63462921
Pretty sure no one was praising OSU for beating NIU by 7.
>>63464180
What? Oregon State didn't beat NIU by 7
>>63464797
Ohio State, silly :p
>>63462966
Are you a football loving nip or an american expat?
>>63464180
>They shouldn't be praised for beating the eventual MAC champion
M7
>DeShone Kizer is a meme QB
Literally why
He is a better pocket QB than Golson, Zaire or TOMMY FUCKING REES but probably just as good as a runner as the first two. All he's done is make a couple freshie mistakes and flap his arms like an autist against Temple
>>63465341
Believe me, no nip can speak english nor gives a shit about anything outside their own country
>>63462799
President and chancellor have resigned.
Prez immediately chancellor at end of year.
The Missouri system has a president over all 4 universities(Mizzou, M$&T, UMSL,UMKC ), and the chancellor is the head of each campus.
Nigs still going to nig.
>>63463663
Not even a gaytors fan and it makes me mad. They were probably championship caliber with him.
>>63467683
That's not the same as the rest of their demands. It sounds like they knocked out two birds with one stone - they can say they met a demand and they also don't have to deal with that shit anymore.
Stepping down was by far the easiest demand to meet - knocking out a president isn't so hard apparently. The rest of their demands are considerably more difficult. Let's see how bad Mizzou really is clucked.
>>63451225
>red river shootout
>>63468699
>didnt mean to greenetext
>>63450968
I'm a Gator and I almost agree with this. So damn tired of the sec cannibalizing itself year after year
>>63468122
Just wait til next year. New recruiting class w/o Muschump, Grier will be back. Georgia and Tennessee will be overrated as usual, South Carolina is in transition, etc.
>>63469422
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>>63468904
lol m8 how r u typing if ur an alligator
>>63468122
I'm a Gators fan and I disagree. Grier was starting to get into rhythm, but he was still inconsistent for most of the season. He barely won against Kentucky and Tennessee and had a mild performance against Missouri. The only game he played well from start to finish in was Ole Miss. The real difference has been the fact that this Gators defense is one of the best I've ever seen and our offense at least has a pulse this year. Under Muschamp's tenure, our defense was playing against the opposing team's offense and our offense because our offense was such a liability.
I just think that this team's composition, even with Grier, is too fundamentally flawed to be an actual playoff contender. But the fact that we've come so far despite the glaring flaws shows how good of a coach McElwain is. I think that if you gave McElwain control of last year's Gators, they could be in the playoffs. If you gave Muschamp control of this year's Gators, they'd be 4-5 or 5-4 and 4th in the SEC East.
Give us another two years of recruiting and development and you'll see us in strong contender form.
>>63469520
He mean's he's a fan of the University of Florida you fucking idiot.
>>63468904
No. Id rather anyone win than bama or lsu
Truth be told fuck the otjer 13 teams in the conference. Conference pride? What lind of faggot roots for your rivals and enemies?
>>63470313
this desu
though if the final is bama vs. ohio state I'm gonna be hella mad no matter who wins
>>63470384
>Hate Bama
>Hate Urban "Health Problems" Meyer
wat do?
>>63470442
O T H E R
S
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>>63470313
I don't know man, definitely depends on the team more than the conference. I'd much rather see Iowa win the natty than Bama.
>>63470442
hope a meteor comes and kills them all?
tOSU fan here. i'd rather watch SEC win the next 50 NCG than Michigan win one more ever in my lifetime
>>63471078
>Condemning yourself to not winning a championship for 50 years
posting so someone can make a new thread
new thread
>>63471242
>>63471242
>>63471242
>>63470442
Root for Iowa
>>63470218
If he is a fan, then how is he typing?
>>63471078
This. I'm don't really like the SEC, but if means the team up North is still irrelevant, I'll take it.
>>63460457
and they started off ranked 13th and never made it ahead of #4 seed way to be retarded
>>63462376
>playoffs
a two loss team isn't making it stop being delusional
>>63460139
Lol holy fuck the delusion
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