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Just go up and talk to her


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Social phobia comes from the overestimation of the cost of any particular social outcome.

>you go up to talk to a girl
>she doesn't show any interest
>you sperg out completely
>you walk away

That's it. It's over, nothing happened, you're not dead. You learned something about yourself. AND you took a chance, you could've got a date out of it at best, and at worse, nothing at all happens.
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I don't know what to say though because I don't know what normalfags are interested in.
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>>29385630
>mfw she says yes
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>>29385630
>Social phobia comes from the overestimation of the cost of any particular social outcome.

No, it really comes from experience and up-bringing.

>You learned something about yourself

That Im undesirable? I already learned that on my own
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>>29385663
You're thinking about it wrong. Why would you want to impress normalfags only for them to later find out who you really are.

The best (BEST) advice when it comes to getting a gf is honestly to be yourself. You actively kill two birds with one stone, (1) it is easier and more natural for you, and (2) you weed out those not compatible from the outset.

If you just want sex, then yeah, don't be yourself, be what women want.
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>>29385689
Why don't you try becoming less undesirable?
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>>29385689
>No, it really comes from experience and up-bringing.

Aetiology aside, the clear maintaining feature of social phobia is, as I just explained, the overestimation of the cost. Just try to rationally evaluate the outcome of a particular action instead of becoming paralysed by fear. The truth is, people don't care about you as much as you think. If you go into a group with other people and you tell a joke and no one laughs, or the group rejects you, then so what. It is not the end of the world fampachi.
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>>29385707
>Why don't you grow several more inches taller?

>Why don't you get a better bone structure?

>Why don't you be rich?

>Why don't you get rid of your mental disorders?
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>>29385692
>it comes to getting a gf is honestly to be yourself
>just beeeee urself :^)
kill yourself senpai
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>>29385630
nothing at all happens until she films it or takes a pic of you putting it up on snapchat so you won't know she's done it sharing it will hundreds of her snapchat friends
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>>29385730
>the clear maintaining feature of social phobia is, as I just explained, the overestimation of the cost

Idiot, phobias don't come out of thin fucking air. If you weren't such a normie with little to no understanding about the human brain, you'll know that by now.

>group rejects you, then so what. It is not the end of the world fampachi.

What the hell is the point of the thread? If you're trying to teach people how to gain acceptance, telling them they'll always gonna get rejected isn't idea, especially if they have a phobia
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>>29385735
I had a feeling it's you. The bone structure guy. Of all the hopeless whiny losers on this board, you stand out as being on a different level. Someone who decided to become a failure in life and has never tried to improve himself.
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>>29385630
OP is right if you don't have pathological social phobia. Some people with social phobia cant even approach people without their heartrate hitting 150 and by then they're not even physically capable of talking.
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>>29385812
>le normies r dumb robots are smart meme

If you are so much smarter than normies, how come they have gfs while you are a kissless virgin?
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>>29385730
You're trying to ask /r9k/ to be rational. Good luck with that.
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>>29385859
>r9k is 1 person

>>29385876
Intelligence =/ social adaptability
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>>29385812

You're a retard. He didn't say that the overestimation of the consequence doesn't stem from past experience/trauma. But still learning to get the fuck over it is vital to functioning like a normal human being. You'll never get over your fear of heights unless you take a dive, you'll never get over your fear of talking to women unless you talk to women. In fact this is the ONLY way to get over past trauma/experiences.
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>>29385922
>too retarded to get girls
>too retarded to realize you're retarded
what a shame
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>>29385630
i would sell my entire family for a chance to get to eat a female ass like that
i would probably kill myself afterwards because that's my main goal in life
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>>29385925
>In fact this is the ONLY way to get over past trauma/experiences.

But it's not. People use months and years of therapy and pills to learn how to adjust. They can't do whatever they're afraid of on the spot. That's not how phobias work
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>>29385925
The problem I always had when people say in order to fight your fears you have to overcome them is the fact that it doesn't fucking work that way.

Sure, you could get me to bungee jump or parachute down from a super high place and I would hyperventilate the entire way down, but if you take me back up there, I'm going to do the same fucking thing. The idea is to essentially numb yourself to the anxiety rather than overcoming it. You might be able to tell yourself "hey yeah I got through it!" but the inherent fear itself won't ever go away. It will never provide me a thrill or fascination like other adrenaline junkies get, kinda like how social situations don't ever make us feel comfortable, even if we luck out and happen to look like alpha males or some shit.
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>hey how are you
>ignores you
>wow fuck you too you bitch
>still ignores you
>wake up, it was all a dream
>kill myself
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>>29385962

>Im more smarter cuz I got laid

>But I got my master's degree!

>but I got pussy so 1-0 for me hurhurhur
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>You learned something about yourself. AND you took a chance, you could've got a date out of it at best, and at worse, nothing at all happens.
Why should I give some bitch a chance to humiliate me by turning me down?

I know Chads who got approached by cute rich women who are now dating. Why should I do the shit you mentioned when Chad doesn't?
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>>29386058
I got my master's degree AND pussy. Who's the retard now?
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>>29385812
There is no hope for you because you can't even grasp basic cognitive principles.
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>>29386071
Chad doesn't exist, fucktard. Every guy gets rejected from time to time. You merely see what you want to see.

Face the truth. The truth is that you're weak. Too weak to stand up and do something to better yourself.
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>>29385630
The problem is it doesnt change. I talk to a girl i sperg out we move on. It hurts to think it'll never work out. The consistency of my failure is terrifying as it seems unending and the implications of that are immense
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>>29385630
>tfw had dream where legit walked up to grill and confessed my feels
>it worked
WHY WAS IT SO VIVID WHAT THE FUCK
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>>29386106
>Every guy gets rejected from time to time. You merely see what you want to see.
I have seen guys who were tall and had good looking faces get hot rich women with absolutely no effort.

>Face the truth. The truth is that you're weak. Too weak to stand up and do something to better yourself.
Why should I do it when they didn't have to?
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>>29386125
>consistency of my failure

That's the key. You try, fail, and learn nothing. You try the same thing again and again so no wonder you keep failing. You have to figure out what you did wrong and do better next time.
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>>29385630
>Cane't ask out a girl raw since you have to have chad tier facial aesthetics for that to work
>Have to become friends with girl
>Reach the point where you have to decide whether to ask her out and make things awkward if she says no or just accept your friendship the way it is

Fuck YOOUUUU
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>>29386014
it's how therapy works. I'm a clinical psychologist and can confirm.
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>>29385630
>le just go up and talk to her
Fuck off with your normie memes. I don't know any females. I literally know ZERO females, and walking up to people in the street and talking to them is creepy as fuck, unless you're an Americlap, which i'm not, so can't do that either.
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The cost is feeling uncomfortable at P = 1 and the gain is getting laid at P = 0

Calculate the expected value of "just going up and talking to her"

Spoiler: it's negative
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>>29386152
>no effort.
Right. So they were born that way, just sat down, and the hot girls jump on their cock? Bullshit. I hope you realize how ridiculous you sound. Every successful guy has to make some kind of effort to be successful even if some have better starting points.

> Why should I do it when they didn't have to?

So they were given good looks, good body, a great well paid job, and friends all without any effort? They were born into it?

You are beyond hope. A pitiful weakling, even by /r9k/ standards, who is far too scared to do anything to better his life.
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>>29386152
>Why should I do it when they didn't have to?
You don't have to do shit. You're allowed not to improve yourself and wallow in self-pity.
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>>29386186
>The cost is feeling uncomfortable
How stupid can one be? Everyone has smartphones these days, she films you discreetly, posts it on her social media and 500 normies laugh at you and share the video everywhere, with a title such as "creepy nice guy tries to verbally rape stacy"
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>>29386075
>I got my master's degree
Congratz, faggot. Wanna cookie?

>AND pussy.
Some did crackheads. Doesn't mean they're smarter than me

>>29386101
>Says this as he doesn't understand how phobias work
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>>29386186
Then work on changing those P-values to be more favorable.
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>>29386220
I'm almost certainly smarter than you. I have my master's degree, a good job, and have no problem getting pussy. If you are so smart, why don't you have all that as well?
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>>29386220
Ok senpai, how do phobias work?

Be sure to refer to the physical, cognitive and behavioural components of anxiety in your answer.
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>>29386219
so?
originale com
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>>29386215
>You're allowed not to improve yourself and wallow in self-pity
Not the same guy, but why can some people do literally nothing to improve themselves but goods things come to them?
And why would a beta white male have to spend countless hours in the gym just to have a CHANCE of attracting a female?
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>>29386180
>I'm a clinical psychologist and can confirm.

And Im a Navy Seal with over 300 confirmed kills.

>>29386211
>>29386152
Of course Chad isn't born that way, besides their looks, but it's mostly upbringing. Most Chads had people that supported them and learned social skills throughout their childhood
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>>29385630
Do you have ANY concept of humiliation? Feeling shame, regret, inferiority? Guess not.

[triggered]
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>>29386262
>why is life unfair?
Who told you life would be fair? What about a child born into a mubai slum, they didn't choose their birthplace, yet they suffer the consequences. You keep asking "why", but I"m not sure that's a meaningful question.
You don't have to spend countless hours in the gym, you don't have to attract a female, you don't have to do anything. Right now you're allowing yourself to be the way you are, which is your right. But then why complain?
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>>29386262
Chad goes to the gym and spends time grooming his appearance. Do you seriously think he gets his looks by staying in the basement all day and fapping to animu?
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>>29386255
>and have no problem getting pussy

Again, so do crack heads. Good job doing something 90% of the population is doing.

>>29386256
Obviously saying "hurr juz get over it" bullshit doesn't work in most cases. If you were an an actual doctor, you'll be a fucking rip off artist
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>>29386282
you don't have to believe me, this is why we're anon. In this case I'm not lying, you could use this to your advantage to learn something.
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>>29386356
Even crack heads are more successful than you, in other words.
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>>29386332
>muh chillun in third world shitholes
Every time. I was born in Brazil, i know how shitty it is compared to what i've got now, but at least people are happier that way. You see that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, but you haven't walked on that grass and you're like "whatever". Now that i've walked on that greener grass, and realized how bad it actually is, i complain.
>>29386355
No he doesn't. He just looks good, he's white, has nice hair and has money to buy good clothes.
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>>29386368
>A guy that gets high everyday, sleeping in dumpsters, sucking off drug dealers, and steals money from people is just a successful as a guy with a career and a degree

Seems about right

>>29386358
In don't think you're lying. Im saying you're wrong.
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>>29386211
>Right. So they were born that way, just sat down, and the hot girls jump on their cock?
Well the girls initiated contact. Invited them over, arranged few days and then they started dating. All from the womans initiative. I've seen this happen. Not one time either.

>So they were given good looks, good body, a great well paid job, and friends all without any effort? They were born into it?
Good looks and great body they got born into. Thanks to this they had more friends, were more confident, had bigger social groups and that's how the rest came to be.

>>29386282
What you mentioned is one part of it. I think looks are more important but that's my opinion.
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>>29386407
I'm not saying the children are sad or anything. I was making a point about life being inherently unfair. It's fine to complain about that, but to use it as an excuse to not actively better yourself is somewhat delusional. Again, you are choosing to linger on these thoughts, choosing to act on them. That's your decision, it's not quite realistic to blame it on the unfairness of life.
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>>29386413
>In don't think you're lying. Im saying you're wrong.

I should have quoted what I was responding, I'm the psychologist. I actually have a lot of experience treating depression and anxiety disorders. So I can tell you how we look at these things.
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>>29386407
If Chad lived like a robot, he would not look like he does. He would be fat or skelly, have terrible hair and hygiene, have terrible clothing, and overall look awful.
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>be me
>see attractive girl
>fuck it what's there to lose
>Me: "Hey sweetie you're looking kinda pretty what's a girl like you doing in this rough city?"
>"I'm just here tryna hold my own ground."
>Me: "Cool I like how that sounds...what you say we get to know each other better?"
>"That sounds cool but I don't think that I can let ya."
>Me: "I don't know tell me is it so...do you get a kick out of telling brothers no? :(".
>"No it's not that, see you don't understand. How should I put it? I got a man."
>Me: "Damn."
Why's this always happen?
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>>29386427
Why are you so determined to insist that everything bad about your life is because you were born into it? And that none of it is the fault of your terrible life decisions?
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>>29385630
I can talk to girls easily. I can start conversations about nothing and keep it going.

I can talk to girls comfortably and without hesitation.

I can hangout with girls and not have any anxieties.

I can make girls laugh from time to time and make occasional eye contact, which I'm very comfortable with now as I've practiced it many times passing by strangers on the street and giving them a smile.

But in every one of those situations, I could tell that they didn't desire me at all.

Sure some girls were touchy, but that's just because they're touchy. They do it to everyone.

And I had no trouble making women comfortable around me whether they were 18 or 35.

I dont really flirt, most of my conversations with women are pretty regular with a hint of humor every now and then.

I just don't think I'm made for sex or love or any of that stuff, not with women at least

I don't know it's kind of frustrating because romance just feels so far away, pretty much non existent for me. It's shit. I hate it, but thankfully I'm starting to learn how to be greatful for what I already have in life.

It's helping me overcome tfw no gf really fast.

I mean, I might not be special, but I deserve to at least respect and appreciate myself from time to time when I'm not self loathing about how much of a pos I am.

Women are interesting to observe from time to time though, so a few shallow friendships with women might be kind of fun.

I really want to peel open a human female's brain and see how it works. They're so frustrating but so fascinating, I hate them but I want to feel love from one too.

I hate them so much it's unbelievable I really do hate them with a fiery passion. Every waking moment I see a woman I feel some kind of repressed sorrow mixed with anger. I wish I could hate them less. Maybe I'd be a better person for it.

Nontheless, I'd rather not go to "that side" and just appreciate what I have now, and to try getting over women as fast as possible.
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>>29386488
Because it's the truth. There is proof for how people treat you differently based on your looks, based on your height. There is proof for how important having rich/influential family is. There is proof for how important intelligence is.

If I had these things my life would have been much better than it is now.
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>>29386513
If you were taller, you would be just as big of a whiny faggot as you are now. Look at the robot height threads, plenty of tall robots.
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>>29386513
I'm 5'6". And I literally have a date with a hot girl from Tinder in 20 minutes.
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>>29386578
>If you were taller, you would be just as big of a whiny faggot as you are now.

He would literally be a bigger whiny faggot right? Because of the extra height? Bigger? get it? : D
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>>29386578
I don't think so. I would have been treated better during my upbringing.

>>29386600
You got lucky.
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You seem to have left out the possibility where she then tells her friends who all laugh and from then on refer to you as "that creepy guy who asked out Girl", encouraging others to mock you similarly. Among other negative outcomes.

The issue here isn't that robots are overestimating the costs, it's that they may overestimate the odds. Taking a chance is not an inherently good thing, you should be strategic and take them only where you value something so highly that it's worth the risks, or you expect to gain.

Winning the lotto would be great, but you're not a whiny faggot for refusing to buy a ticket. Odds are you will never win, and you are mathematically expected to lose money over time.

Similarly you are not a whiny faggot for not asking out a 10/10. I think most people would agree with me that the most probable outcome is a polite no, followed by a rude rejection, followed by her permission to be her beta orbiter, then public mockery and somewhere south from there, a tentative yes. If you're thinking of asking out Plain Jane, a girl known as much for her kindness as her bland appearance, then you should probably go for it. With Plain Jane your odds of a polite no or a yes are about equal, and both significantly outweighing the kinds of minorly disastrous outcomes of asking out a Stacey.
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>>29386502
>I hate them so much it's unbelievable I really do hate them with a fiery passion.

they sense that, you know

change the way you think
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The key to picking up women is rejecting them. And since women never approach men you have to approach them and then reject them.
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>>29386578
6 foot 5 non-skeleton mode here. I've had women scream at me on the street and tell me to stop following them when I was just trying to walk home.

Being tall won't make things better, anon.
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>>29386886
>approach girl
>"Ugh, can I get you something, freak?"
>"I just wanted to advise you not to consider me a possible romantic partner. You disgust me."
Well I can't imagine her actually changing her mind about you afterwards, but it would surely add to your general popularity and self-esteem.

Time to move on to field testing, boys.
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>>29385692
>Just be yourself
"Hey I like anime and masturbating I have no job and severe mental issues and am not really interested in you and see you as sub human but will you let me fuck your hole"

Somehow I don't think being myself will work too well desu senpai
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>>29386838
I don't believe they do man. Women aren't magical beings.

Besides,I thought women looooove being hated? Well, probably only when Chad does it i guess.

Im just a loser creep mega weirdo man fuck YOU I'm fucking having none of it

I hate women so much but I really do love women too and appreciate that i can look at such natural beauty but thinking about ruining it is also a pleasant thought

Have you ever contemplated stealing something from a woman that wouldn't make her whole again?

If you think about it, one of the most important things about a woman is her youth.

If that was taken away, would she kill herself?

I wonder if there is a verified methodology of getting a woman to at least contemplate suicide (young, older women can be ok)

Ive always wanted to feel that kind of power rush

It doesn't even have to be women

Have you.ever taken something so valuable to a person that they just weren't the same person again? How powerful did it make you feel?

I feel like making women suffer is just as they have overblown egos.

I really wish I could destroy the bright hopes of a young woman

Maybe seeing one delve deep into a drug addiction which ends up messing their lives would be more fun?

Eh sound like too much effort but maybe just once in a lifetime

Gotta live life to the fullest man
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>>29386931

That's funny but what I mean is like:

>approach girl
>"Hey do you have the time"
>"Yes it's ___"
>"Okay, thanks."
>leave but stay nearby

One of three things will happen:

>She will approach you to talk if she's interested.

>She won't say anything, but subconsciously she will "like" you a bit more because getting your approval would reinforce her value, this sets you up for future encounters.

>She'll thank g*d that creep only wanted the time and you will have avoided an embarrassing situation.
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>>29385630
>Social phobia comes from the overestimation of the cost of any particular social outcome.

No it comes from me being an ugly weak chinned manlet who needs facial surgery to look ok. I wish I realized it before I was 27.

Im thin and have a fatter baby face than my fatass friend simply because he has a normal jaw and chin. What a world. I wonder how many of you "robots " would kill yourself after a year of looking like me.
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>>29385630
I hate being looked at because my anxiety goes awry. The more pairs that stare the worse it gets.

I would rather remain invisible.
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The thought of approaching a girl scares me. I wouldnt know what to say and plus im naturally a quite guy. My face would probably get red and i would struggle with a conversation. Shed prolly think i was autistic or something.
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>>29385630
>you're not dead
but i wish i was
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>>29385735
if you get rich all that other shit go's out hte window and you can slap that pussy all day stocks or robbery id go with both if i were you good luck faggot
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>>29385630
Every time you fuck up, it builds a reputation. When it comes to women, you're the creepy loser who hits on everyone. When it comes to work, you're the incompetent who fails at everything. When it comes to family, you're the pathetic guy who can't be trusted with anything.
There are social consequences, bro.
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>>29386952
that's not what anon meant when he said be yourself and you shouldn't start a convo like that in the first place. you say hi and tgen ask a couple questions then she'll ask you questions. what anon meant by being yourself is that you shouldn't pretend to be something else just dont overthink the answers and questions and shit.
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>>29385741
he's right though dumbass
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>>29385630
>you sperg out completely
>You learned something about yourself
Do i really need to go this horrible experience just to reaffirm the fact that i'm autist?
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>>29385630
>Ask a girl out in HS
>She goes "Ewwwww hahahaha"
>Tells all her friends that some ugly guy asked her out
>Everyday after that random people say things like "Don't get too close, you might catch the ugly!"
>One day some guys see me slouching and make fun of that
>Start getting called Quasimodo
>When I fucking graduate the principle calls me Quasimodo

Fuck you OP, things can go horribly wrong. The only thing I learned is that people are horrible and that women are cunts.
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>>29385630
>you're not dead
>nothing at all happens
You dont understand social anxiety, fuck you
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>>29386502
it's that guy who doesn't know how to make a paragraph!
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>>29385630
>>29379275

You're the OP from this thread too I'm guessing? Jesus Christ. What the fuck is going on here?
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>There are people ITT who think they're special snowflakes and anything other than "normie".

Lmao, fucking neck yourselves.
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>ctrl + f "chad"
>9 results
simply ebin
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>this one fucking poster self pitying about chads in every fucking thread
He has the most obvious syntax. You can spot him from a mile away. Not to mention he uses the word chad in every fucking post.
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>>29385630
I'd be too afraid to talk to her even though I find women like her very attractive
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>>29387649
And yet no one can disprove what I'm saying. At most they say
>hurr dats life
>hurr don't think about it
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>>29387713
By your definition, anyone that is more successful than you is a chad. Does that mean if I asked out a woman and she said yes, that makes me a chad?

Than again, you're a hopeless loser so everyone is more successful than you. I guess we're all chads right?
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>go up to girl
>1000th attempt (obv on diff girls)
>talk to her
>she pick up on my insecurity which came from being rejected 1000 times
>rejects me

Gonna give up
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>>29387732
I guess. Your point?
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>>29386502
I can relate to this 100%. I can socialize with women extremely well, I can talk to them, make them laugh (not at me) and even get touchy at times. I also can often friendzone myself though, because I don't like the idea of rejection. I'd rather be the one to friendzone a girl instead of her friendzoning me. See, I don't like to lose and I prefer to lose because of myself rather than because of someone else.

>>29387001
>Have you.ever taken something so valuable to a person that they just weren't the same person again? How powerful did it make you feel?

You can do this to any woman. For example, some girl you know. Stop validating her, stop responding to her and act distant for awhile. You'll notice how clingy she'll become even if she's just an acquaintance. The most important thing for women isn't youth, but validation. They just get validation through the more younger they are usually.
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>>29385630
If rejection and humiliation aren't that bad, why are robots so scared of it?
Could it be that years of it left them mentally fucked up?
They didn't even have to approach or talk to anyone to be treated like shit.
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>>29387751
You're not going to achieve anything sitting behind your computer complaining about about people better than you. They're better than you because they put in effort. All you do is sit behind your computer and whine like a little bitch. Be better then them. Work for it.
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>>29387649
>this one fucking poster spewing self-pity in every post
Hi.
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>>29387782
>Be better than them.
No. Lucky people will always be better than me. Some inherent advantages can not be changed. If I work hard I will get somewhere, but if they work as hard from better starting position, they will obviously get further.

>>29387752
>You can do this to any woman. For example, some girl you know. Stop validating her, stop responding to her and act distant for awhile. You'll notice how clingy she'll become even if she's just an acquaintance. The most important thing for women isn't youth, but validation. They just get validation through the more younger they are usually.
For me they usually didn't care at all. But that is obvious, because I'm not a Chad.
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>>29387824
You're destined to be a failure because your attitude is so fucking poor. I'm not talking to you because I'm teasing you. I'm trying to help you and give you positive reinforcement. You can get there, but you need to change your attitude. You can better yourself. Chad is a strawman and you need to get that through your fucking skull. There will always people who are better than you. Thats a hard fact of life. There are some people who will get lucky. That's a hard fact of life. People don't respect the lucky ones as much. They respect the ones who worked their way to the top. No one will respect those who whinge about their problems and do nothing about it though.
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>>29387858
>here will always people who are better than you. Thats a hard fact of life. There are some people who will get lucky. That's a hard fact of life.
None of these I will accept calmly.

>People don't respect the lucky ones as much. They respect the ones who worked their way to the top. No one will respect those who whinge about their problems and do nothing about it though.
People respect superior people. Thanks to halo effect they will themselves that lucky Chad got to the top through his hard work.
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>>29387858
>I'm trying to give you positive reinforcement
>You're destined for failure
>positive reinforcement
This is just comedic, keep up the bait. There's no fathomable way anybody is this stupid.
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>>29385630
Just be yourself broe
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>offering rational advice for irrational fears

Yeah, you should be a psychologist or something.
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>>29387881
Have fun dying a miserable lonely death than knowing you achieved nothing because you didn't even try.
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Just talk to her, what do you have to lose?
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Here's the thing, I've talked to girls about this and I've found that you're just not going to have a lot of luck pulling chicks out in the wild like this. Girls don't like to be "picked up", you gotta make friends with the people, go to social gatherings and stuff and meet their friends and get introduced etc, it makes them feel a lot better when there's some sort of structure around your meeting. Save up some money and take a women's lit class at a community college or something, that's what I did and I laid twice.
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>>29385630
>You're not dead
stop fucking assuming things about people you do not fucking know. if you have a weak heart you might get heartfailure from all the stress and anxiety so it might indeed kill you.

fucking invincible piece of normalshit
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>>29387919
>giant ass
Nigger detected.
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>>29387919
Nothing. Literally nothing. You gain or lose nothing.
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>>29387912
Better than trying all my life and knowing I achieved less because of things I couldn't change. That would make me much more miserable. Knowing I tried and failed. Knowing that no matter ho hard I try the one who got born tall and attractive will always have more. That couldn't end any other way than with me killing myself. Much sooner than if I don't do anything.
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>>29387952
>hur dur look at me I'm an ignorant piece of normalshit
seev>>29387942

>inb4 LOL HEARTFATTY LOSE WEIGHT
I'm underweight due to my severe mental illnesses and self destructive nature. something as simple as a panic attack can actually fucking kill me.
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>>29385630

>"HELP AHH IM BEING RAPED"
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>>29387881
>None of these I will accept calmly
But you've already accepted worse (failure) so I don't see how you won't accept those.
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>>29387919
>>29387952
You can lose reputation, which for people who desire acceptance from others can't lose.
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>>29387919
>>29387946

I think I have my body to lose from her crushing it by sitting on me with her massive butt on me so I'll pass.

Can you imagine how much that ass weighs? It can't be muscle, its probably just pure fat
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>>29386952
Yeah and she also has severe mental issues, stores food under her bed, fucked her dog once, crashed 3 cars and has a $25000 in college debts and nothing to show for it.

Yet you don't know these things do you? So why should you start off with the negative on your end.
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>>29387988
>lose reputation
You fuckwits really don't leave your bedroom do you. Respect and reputation goes up even if you get rejected because you had the balls to talk to her. Period. Rejection doesn't mean shit because you had a shot and gave it your best. Better than being a little bitch and talking about "loss of reputation" from behind your computer.
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>>29388000

> fucked her dog

No thanks familia
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Today I was waiting for the bus and this nerd walked by with this PAWG, old negro next to me said that "back in my day only real men got women"
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>>29387978
Is failure worse than humiliation? Or to put it another way. Is failure without trying worse than failure despite trying?

Trying and still failing is much worse than never trying and failing by default.
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>>29388025
Failure isn't bad. If you've made a mistake you've never made anything. You learn from your mistakes and keep going. Only pathetic people don't try.

You've never tried anything though because you talk big but you never leave your bedroom. You can't discuss real life experiences because you've never had any.
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>>29388025
this. every day i wake up i think about the spergy things i did and my herat rate reaches like 150 and i get severe irregular heartbeat and pain in in my heart due to all the stress and panic. if i would have never done anything in the first place iw ouldnt have those memories.

>you will lose nothing
only your sanity and heart-health. no, healthy diet, normalweight and cardio will not help. because i have all of that.
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I'm not afraid of failure, I'm afraid of success. The worst years of my life are when I had a woman in them.
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>>29387250
And who I am is a degenerate who thinks less of women any sort of interaction we have that doesn't disgust or repulse her is me putting on a facade
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the amount of self pity on this board is disgusting, the hive mind is real.
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>>29388074
You just need to have empathy. :^)
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>>29387919
Ego. My one is giant, and I can't stand rejection. I'm someone who would rather reject a woman I have a 50/50 chance with rather than get rejected by her instead. I prefer to be in charge.
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>>29388016
>Respect and reputation goes up even if you get rejected
I go outside every fucking day and I actually have 1st hand experience. How does being looked at as a "harrasser" or unnattractive something people will look up to? You literally have no idea how real the world is. It's shallow.

Take this guy for example
https://m.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/3n7zqs/as_of_today_i_have_been_rejected_1000_times/

If you deny outside factors can happen to damage people's personality, you're simple minded
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>>29388052
>You learn from your mistakes and keep going. Only pathetic people don't try.
Meaningless normie platitudes.

>You've never tried anything though because you talk big but you never leave your bedroom. You can't discuss real life experiences because you've never had any.
And assumptions. Never disappoint.
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>>29388088

look at this fucking edgelord over here

I bet you are a self diagnosed psychopath and wore fedora too higschool
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>>29388090
Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything.
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>>29388052
>>29388091
>HUR DUR KEEP TRYING HURRR DURRR

this is what i did. now i have serious heart-disease. because newsflash: Severe stress is not healthy for your heart. so you can't fucking "keep trying" forever, it will eventually kill you.

do you know how often when I tried i actually was successful? 0 times. all a waste of fucking heart health.

the reason normalshits dont get this is because they are invincible normalshits, with good genetics.
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>>29388091
>meaningless normie platitudes
Not an argument. A repetitive statement though when faced with something that might reveal some truth.

Please though, do go on being a failure, never breaking out of your comfort zone, because god forbid I ever get embarrassed.

God I bet you were fucking coddled to no end as a child.
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>>29388118
>Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything.

Yours doesn't either. However, I objectively proved that OP isn't right about his broad advice doesn't work for everyone.
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>>29388114
You have a very strange definition of edge. Why so mad?
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>>29388128
They are just trying to speed up the natural selection process by telling inferior people like us to try knowing if we try and fail we will die sooner.
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>>29388128
prove to me that you have heart disease
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>>29388141
You act like it's good to accept embarassment.
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The irony in all of this is that 4chan promotes free speech, new ideas and controversial opinions.

Yet when anyone mentions that you low life lunatics are fuck up failures you all come screaming "REEEE NORMIE GTFO OUT OF BOARD".
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>>29388155
How about the very original post gets proven first? Still no evidence whatsoever that you won't get any mental or physical problems from failing over and over again, which is what OP claims.

Stress is known to have a negative impact on your heart. And no, I cannot be arsed to look up studies now.
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>>29388161
Uh news flash kiddo. It is. It shows that your human. Just like the rest of us. Embarrassment is a normal human emotion, just like guilt, sadness, happiness, anger, frustration, pain etc.

You act like it's good to reject human emotion.
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>>29388168
>The irony in all of this is that 4chan promotes free speech, new ideas and controversial opinions.

It may have done so originally, but it certainly doesn't anymore.
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>>29388186
But Chads get embarassed much less.
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>>29388161
It is definitely normal.
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>>29388168
So where exactly is the irony?
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>>29388200
Chads are a straw man.
>>29388218
When someone questions the nature of peoples attitude on this board the hive mind comes in and shoots it down with a plethora of attacks.
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>>29386180
>psychologist
>knowing things

Pick one you massive faggot
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>>29388226
Them shooting down ideas is also free speech. That and robots don't have any power to stop you from posting what you want. There is indeed no irony here; all sides are exercising free speech.

You're just assmad that others aren't complying with your approach.
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>>29385630
You say this but I bet you don't know what it feels like to fuck things up. I failed to impress some girls a few years ago and I still cringe and hate myself for it. I never wanna experience that again.
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>>29385730
There are numerous causes for and factors involved with social phobia. The idea that "overestimation of cost" is the essence of the issue is ridiculous at best. As if phobias were ever calculation errors - By their very definition they are irrational and no "calculation" is done. In fact the issue is more about ingrained thought/behavioral patterns making the wrong parts of the brain fire at the wrong time, coupled with inherited propensity for dysfunctioning amygdala and so on. God, just stop posting imbecile.
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>>29388226
>Chads are a straw man.
No they are totally not.
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>>29388252
They are. In your mind anyone who is more successful than you is a chad (not hard when you don't do anything all day except shit post on 4chan).
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>>29387025
Categorically not true. 20M, Handsome, 6'3" """Chad""" here and I'm hkv because I stay inside all day because the thought of interactivity makes my heart beat in my stomach.
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>>29388267
>implying I don't do anything

Also how is it a strawman that there are people who are luckier than me and get more than me easily?
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>>29388306
>luckier than me
You're the same cunt from the other thread. All you do is fucking whinge, and bitch and moan about "lucky chads" and people who have it better then you. Christ cunt just buy a gun and put it in your mouth and pull.
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>>29388186
>You act like it's good to reject human emotion

But phobias are also human emotions. Yet you're rejecting it's not real
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>>29388327
I'm sure you normies would like that. But I will not just accept humiliation.
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>>29388328
>fear of embarrassment
This is what happens when you're a shut in. If you weren't an outcast piece of shit you'd take it in your stride. Respect comes to those who can cop it on the chin and have a good laugh about it.
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>>29388348
>humiliation
From who? All I see from you in threads is waffling on about "chads" and "lucky" people who have things better because "things out of their control".

It's like these are your key words and you don't know how to talk about anything else. Christ you're boring.

Thank fuck I know how to spot you so I can keep calling you out on your pathetic pity party.
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>>29388350
Like cucks. Ones who get fucked and accept it with a laugh. I'm not surprised society loves "people" like that.
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>>29385730

>just don't feel anxiety bro
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>>29388371
You can call me out on whatever you want but you still haven't been able to disprove what I have said.
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>>29388383
>people who have friends are "cucks"
>people who wine on /r9k/ about their lives are superior
Do you see how retarded this sounds you stupid cunt? How old are you anyway? Can't be more than 18.
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>>29388394
>disprove
There's nothing to disprove. You aren't able to ever explain what you're talking about because every post is "my life sucks because chads get lucky". That doesn't prove anything and there's nothing to disprove because chads are a straw man.
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>>29388402
I'm 24. The people who accept societal humiliation are inferior.
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>>29386125

Its because you are trying to force it. Most people get gf's by friends in common not by hassling strangers on the street.
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>>29388417
Says the one that sits behind his computer in the /r9k/ circle jerk all day. I bet your parents are real proud.
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>>29388280
>hkv because i stay inside all day
>chad

I do agree with you, looks don't mean shit if you're a socially retarded sperglord.
Confidence and being interesting are probably just as if not more important.
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>>29388416
My life is shit compared to Chad. What's not to understand?
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>>29388432
Prove to me that "chads" exist and maybe I'll start to take you seriously.
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>>29388438
I don't give a shit about proving you anything. I'm right and you're not.
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>>29388417
>>29388383
loving this edge
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>>29388424
How about you elaborately explain how one would go out and make friends then, Mr. Normie Nigger? Please, in depth, detail the process of someone from a rural and sparsely populated area gaining friends after years and years of crippling social anxiety and depression.

You can't? Well how about you become my friend or introduce me to your friends so that I may integrate into your group? Oh, what's that? You don't? But I thought you were trying to help me? What? Something tells me that you're just here to boost your sense of self sanctification...
Fucking disgusting normie nigger. Just go die.
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>>29388450
>i'm right and you're not
What are you right about? Chads? Chad's don't exist. They're a figment of your imagination. Something you fell for because 4chan told you it was real. It's a straw man.

People are better than you because they put effort into their lives. They work hard. They don't complain that others have it better. They don't care. They're happy how they are and they'll continue to stay that way because they don't need to compare themselves to others.

Now, without sounding like a child, explain to me, in full blown detail, who these alleged "chads" are that are making your life ever so hard, because they seem to have it a lot easier than you. Give me some hard, proper examples.

I've made it really easy for you. There's not avoiding this. You will anyway though. You avoid questions like a politician does and dance around the answer.
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shut the fuck up norman ffs

clearly they have deep running problems that won't be solved through your "tough love" on an indonesian crafts board

I swear you normals are more autistic than these robots, with your long ass paragraphs that say literally nothing
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>born deformed (recessed chin)
>WHY DONT YOU JUST GO UP AND TALK TO HER BRO
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>>29388490
>People are better than you because they put effort into their lives. They work hard.
And never because of things out of their control, right?

>Give me some hard, proper examples.
My 6'5" friend who got a cute rich girlfriend after being a virgin until he was 22 without putting in ANY effort. She took ALL the initiative. Every girl I try to pick up will compare me to guys like this. This goes for everything in life. Searching for jobs, etc. Just being compared to lucky Chads makes my life harder.
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>>29385630
>get rejected
>self-esteem goes down
>depressed and suicidal for a few days
These are serious consequences actually.

I've been through it a few times and it is really hard to bring myself to do it again, especially that there is a 99% chance of failure.
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>>29388536
>out of their control, right?
This isn't an argument. You've been saying this all day. No. They put effort and hard work into their lives to get to where they are. Not because of things out of their control. There is no conspiracy out there making other people more successful than you.

>My 6'5 friend
So what? He's still not a chad. Chad's don't exist remember?
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>>29388536
>someone got a girlfriend and i didn't
>must be a chad
this logic tho
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>>29388490
Males who meet the following criteria

-above average testosterone levels
-wide jaw & palate
-ability to grow facial hair
-nw0 hairline
-long dick
-long clavicles and narrow hips
-above average height
-short philtrum
-no major deformities/congenital conditions

There are more, but these are the most important.
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>>29388562
>There is no conspiracy out there making other people more successful than you.
There is genetic lottery.
It does exist.
Some people are born with better initial status than others.
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>>29388562
And you've been saying your bullshit since the beginning too, without being able to back it up.
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>>29388583
>>29388594
You quite obviously have serious body dysmorphia problems. Having these physical attributes doesn't make you a chad. Some people get lucky so what? Roll of the dice in life.

Go see someone.
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>>29388562
Then how come some inferior people put in hard work and effort and get less compared to lucky Chads?

>>29388576
Without putting in ANY effort whatsoever. That's my logic.
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>>29388619
>Some people get lucky so what
So you agree after all? What a retard normie
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>>29388606
Like I said, there's nothing to back up. Your talking about a strawman. Chads don't exist. You're so insecure that you're making up a boogie man.
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>>29385812
You fucking mongoloid

Not OP but the definition of phobia is an irrational fear.
Irrational
As in, it doesn't make sense to have it
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>>29388168
>>29388226
forcing the generic normie consensus is not a new idea or a controversial opinion you retard
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>>29388641
I'm talking about nothing. I just entered this discussion by asking for evidence.

Prove to me that people suffering mental disorders have it just as easy as those who dont. Or that people with deformed bodies, overweight, underweight, and things like that, don't have a harder time. These things are considered handicaps and disadvantages so prove that they do not handicap you in getting laid.
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>>29388583
>>29388594
>>29388606
>>29388631
>>29388632
>>29388536
>>29388450
>>29388432
You should be banned from this entire website.

Literally all you fucking talk about is "chads" and "lucky" people. Do you have an off button?

You are a ball of self loathing that can literally only talk about "chads", which don't exist by the way. They're what you use to make excuses for your lazy behaviour and poor attitude in life.

Please vacate or talk about something "original".
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>>29388680
Until mods see fit to ban me. I will stay here.
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>>29388647
They still don't come out of thin air you ignorant piece of shit.

>>29388680
THAT IS NOT TRUE YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, none of my posts which you quoted (which is only 2 posts) I as talking about chad. You fucking ignorant piece of shit. Go to fucking China or Korea if you like censorship so much.
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>>29388673
>overweight
>underweight
these things are easily changed, and you're again talking shit because you don't have a deformed body otherwise you would've mentioned it by now.
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>>29388619
Males who don't have those attributes aren't even considered human by society.
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>>29386106
I met a prime chad just last week.

His family is rich and he's a tall white guy with dark hair and looks like a male model. Not very smart but that literally doesn't matter at all.

chads are real
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>>29388708
Yep. You don't leave the house. This is the most retarded thing I've seen here all day.
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>>29385730
>. If you go into a group with other people and you tell a joke and no one laughs, or the group rejects you, then so what. It is not the end of the world fampachi.
Are you literally retarded?
You can't change human biology and psychology.
Humans haven't evolved into our modern era.
And back in our natural tribal state BEING REJECTED BY THE GROUP IS A BIG FUCKING DEAL WITH LETHAL CONSEQUENCES.
THAT is where the phobia of being rejecting comes from.
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>>29388724
>being rejected by the group is a big fucking deal
if you're a fucking spastic
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>>29388461
Tch.. And of course the dumb normie nigger doesn't reply. You know why? Because the normie NIGGER only came here to shitpost and evoke an artificial sense of self worth. Where the fuck are the mods for threads like this? I've got a couple of hot pockets, come and hammer these fuckers with your divine ban judgement!
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>>29388746
>being this desperate that you replied to yourself in such a fueled state of anger
lmao you fucking retard
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>>29388704
>these things are easily changed
again, ignorant normalshit-talk. Those things are easily changed if you are LITERALLY NORMAL. if you are crippled by several incurable diseases that inhibit your body's ability to metabolize and digest food THEN THOSE THINGS ARE NOT EASILY CHANGED. and no, i am not talking about some fatties who make up excuses like "poor metabolism", i am talking about underweight people with type 1 diabetes and crohn's disease.
but you don't consider those and just spout your ignorant bullshit because you are a hostile, ignorant piece of shit. you're just a bad person and people like you are the fucking cancer in society.

>you don't have a deformed body otherwise you would've mentioned it by now.
>You, you you you
>you here, you there
>hur dur you
who the fuck do you even think I am? You have no fucking idea how long I've been in this thread and if this wasn't my first post so shut the fuck up you ignorant piece of shit. you have no fucking idea who I am ITT, you are just assuming things.
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>>29388746
>m-muh safe space has been compromised
>m-mods ban them, I want to believe that they don't exist and that I am always right and that Universe is against me to success in my life
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>>29388743
no, literally if you're a human being. The reason why you cannot fucking fathom that is because you have never been rejected to a certain degree. because
you
are
fucking
normal.
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>>29385630

>and at worse, nothing at all happens.

Bullshit. When you sperg out in front of a girl, she usually shares this experience with her friends and talks to others about how weird you are.

Because its a girl, she talks to her large circle of friends and eventually most people in your age group know how desperate and weird you come off as.

Not only are you punished for your brave attempt at asking a girl out, but you end up being completely discouraged from relationships ever again. You don't want to ask again because you know everyone thinks of you as ''that guy''.

This is why /r9k/ hates women. Its because they live out their lives telling others to ''be yourself'' and ''personality matters most'' and then do a 180, judging potential boyfriends and think they're good enough to change bad boys until they find ''Mr Right'' who is usually at least 6ft tall, very muscular, strong jawline and great hair, etc.
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>>29388766
Do you have type 1 diabetes and crohn's disease anon? if not then shut the fuck up you lazy waste of space poor excuse for a human
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>>29388743
I'm talking about back in our natural tribal state where if you're rejected by your group there is no one else for you and you'll die alone
God fuck you're not only a normalfag you're underaged and criminally retarded if you can't understand why this would be ingrained into the human psyche.

Having a phobia of heights when there are guard rails everywhere dangerous doesn't make sense either but it still happens.
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>>29385630
Her name is Anais Zanotti
https://www.instagram.com/anaiszanotti/

You can thank me later
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>>29388789
>Do you have type 1 diabetes and crohn's disease anon?
Yes. I am talking to specialists on a regular basis and there is no way.
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>>29388719
>Go outside
>People stare and take pictures of my face with their phones
>"Whats wrong with him? It looks like his face is melting"

Unfortunately I have a job so I have to leave the house and deal with shit like this on a daily basis.
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>>29385630
>overestimation of the cost
>she doesn't show any interest

You're just taking the less costly outcome here, which is true if you just want a date.

She could be showing interest, and then you fuck up.
You could date her for months, and then you fuck up or discover she's an horrible person and you've wasted your time.
You could propose her after two year and she says no.
You could marry her and get a nice divorce ten years later, one chance out of two it happens.

You're calling it "overestimation" but every time you're dating someone, you're taking the risk to waste years of your life with the wrong person.
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>>29388781
We're all normal. So are you. You're not special. You're average and boring.
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>>29388830
>have a disease where the chances of you getting it are 0.01%
>this disease is incurable and the exact cause is unknown
I am, by definition, not part of the norm.
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>>29388820
In what kind of backward savage country are you living if people are actually taking pictures of you? Its some progressive western country no doubt
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>>29386838
>le women are telepaths meme
lmao
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>>29388820
Prove it. If you're so fucking ugly post a photo. You're exaggerating to no end cunt.
>>29388843
You may have a rare diseases, but you, as a human, are still boring, average and uninteresting. You're not special because you use /r9k/ or 4chan. Or any other image board site for that matter.
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>>29388852
Have I claimed to be special? I just fucking refuted your claim that I am normal. I am not. I am severely handicapped and can do FUCK ALL without having to take extreme precautions and prepare myself, hence it's harder for me to do... pretty much everything.
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>>29388851
You can definitely give off bad vibes to people and also get bad vibes from people. It's not about telepathy, it's about your body language and the way people talk. Maybe if you interacted with people you'd know that you fucking spastic cunt.
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>>29386952
Then improve yourself you mongoloid. No one is forcing you to be an uninteresting dweeb peice of poop
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>>29388869
Why come to this shit hole then? Everyone in here is full of self loathing, self pity and they all circle jerk about how women and "normies" are the enemy. It's a pathetic board really. They all think they're some kind of special snowflake an that society is out to get them.
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>>29386952
This is what happens when you don't try and improve yourself you fucking idiot.

>hey i like anime, i work at pet barn and my favourite movie is nightcrawler

Why start with the negative you cynical retard? No wonder you're a reject.
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>>29388884
>Why come to this shit hole then?
What the fuck??? None of your business. People like me just come here.
>they all think, everyone of them, bla
stop generalizing this entire board. you don't see the people who post here so you never know if they have legitimate problems.
>>
People are rejects for a reason.

You think every lion gets to mate with female?
It's called natural selection.

Embrace it or get rekt.
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>>29388930
Pretty much. Except these pathetic excuses for human beings blame society and blame it on "chads".
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>>29386952
>>29388065
nope. women like it if men treat them like they are less. this shows them that you are a real man capable of taking care of himself and strong and shit. this is literally how normies get laid, wtf. you should be drowning in pussy btu you don't because you dont try.
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>>29388954
>b-but muh c-chads
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>>29388936
Why are you so angry?
How these pathetic virgins can be so much calmer and easier to talk to?
It seems you'll explode in a minute.
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Im a robot myself, but the "approach strangers" tactic seldom works very well.

Most people date with partners they are already acquainted with, so a good way to have a gf is to be sociable and have a circle of friends.

We (I hope I speak for the majority because Im not shure what this board is anymore) are essencialy outcasts and our major problem is not having a social life.

Its really hard to get one from scratch at your late 20's upwards.
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>see highschool crush
>approach her
>"I'm sorry, but you're so beautiful, and if I don't ask you out right now I'm going to regret it for the rest of my life"
>she responds positively
>we go on a date
>wake up
Literally a few hours ago
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>>29388991
you're not a robot, you're a human
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>>29388936
Why should we not hate Chads? Chads are the bigger lions with nice mane that get to fuck more. Why should we not hate them if they just got lucky?
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>>29385859
No one, absolutely no one throughout the history of human existence has ever chosen to be a loser. You don't pick misery over happiness if actually given the choice. Take your Just-World fallacious normie bullshit elsewhere, you unempathetic, retarded cunt.
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>>29389041
>muh self pity
lmao faggot just kill yourself
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How come the angriest posts here comes from normies?
I would imagine that robots bitterness would create much more anger, but every time topic like that is on a board, the normie OP seems to boil from rage.
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I'm not even a robot but I don't understand fellow normies here on /r9k/. Why are you trying so hard to "improve" these robots? There will always be people who give up, who blame everyone, who are depressed and angry. Thing is, /r9k/ is their hotspot, and there's no point trying to change them.

Seriously, in real life, most of us normies wouldn't even try "helping" a robot unless he was our friend or something. For some reason though, most normies here feel the need to give advice and whatnot.

I'm not agreeing with robots, I don't really share most of their views and ideals, but why can't we let them have them? For fucks sake, we have the rest of the world for us to play, why can't we leave robots be?

I know it's annoying reading their moaning and sobbing, but fuck it man, if that's what they wanna do, who are we to stop them? I want to believe most normies here actually just wanna troll robots (which I find kinda sad and pathetic), not really "help" them. No reason trying to help people who don't want to be helped.
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>>29389103
The extent of normie argumentation. When we complain that we have to work much harder for what Chad gets easily we just get told to kill ourselves.
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The thing is though if you are
>not funny
>not interesting
>no relatable experiences

You get rejected 100% of the time. And you cannot gain any of these things without friends who you cannot make because you are none of these things.
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>>29389243
>more self pity
strawman
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>>29385672
i don't know what I would do
>itwasjustapranksis.jpeg
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>>29385630
Fuck off. I've talked to literally countless women now and still don't have a gf or a date.
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>>29389257
You can say that I'm strawmanning, but you haven't said anything of value yourself. Is it not true what I said? That we have to work hard for things that Chad gets easier?
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>>29385630
>I go up to talk to a girl
>Memory of me sperging out hits me hard
>Lose confidence fast
>I walk away
FUCK
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>>29389302
chad's don't exist
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>>29389249
I am >>29389236 and I don't want to give you any advices since I am not you and can't really relate, but I refuse to believe someone is so uninteresting, unfunny and with no relatable experience to anyone else that he'd be completely rejected.

Some of the most boring people I've ever met had plenty of friends. Yes, I am talking from my personal experience, since I'm not some omniscient being that knows everything.
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>>29389323
You keep repeating it. But there do absolutely exist men who got lucky in the genetic lottery. And these are Chads.
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>>29389236

Because you and normies like you don't actually care. You only care about the appearance of caring

>normie tries to "help" robots with false platitudes and advice which just boils down to "just b-urself :^)
>advice falls on deaf ears because it was never supposed to work in the first place
>entire thread turns into normies yelling at robots for not being able to do the things they can do

Humans are a product of their upbringing and environment. You really think that someone who never learned the basic interaction skills to form social and romantic relationships are going to get better just by yelling worthless advice at them?

>just talk to women!
>just be yourself!
>just have confidence
>just be able to make people laugh!
>just look better!
>just have a job!
>just be able to drive!
>just be able to overcome your neurosis and mental problems!
>just stop having anxiety
>it's easy for me, why isn't it easy for you?
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>>29389335
Not that anon, but can you tell me what exactly is the problem with their existence? I know it affects you and makes the world unfair, but if it is taken as an unchangable fact (which it really is), what's the point even thinking about them?

Here comes a retarded comparison: if you get struck with a lightning, you wouldn't really blame the sky or anything, would you? I mean, it would suck but it happened and there's literally nothing to be done about it. Same with the existence of Chads.
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>>29389376
You are right, as I said, I don't really care about robots unless it's a friend of mine or something. I don't try hiding that fact. You don't care about a bangladeshi kid working in a sweatshop either. That's not being inconsiderate, that's being a human. You can't care about everything and everyone the same way.

That is literally what I argued in my post. No point helping robots. First, because we don't care enough to really help them (if it was even possible). Secondly, because robots don't come on /r9k/ to get help, but to be surrounded by likeminded individuals and feel a bit less shitty or atleast not to feel shitty alone. And I think that's perfectly fine and something us normies should understand.
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>>29389383
>I know it affects you and makes the world unfair, but if it is taken as an unchangable fact (which it really is), what's the point even thinking about them?
Because it makes the world unfair and affects me. That's actually not the worst part. The worst part is I am expected every day to integrate with men like this and participate in the mass delusion that they got succesful through their hard work and that their genetics played no role whatsoever. And what's even better, I'm expected not to be angry about it. It's the hypocritical society which doesn't want to name things for what they are which bothers me.

>if you get struck with a lightning, you wouldn't really blame the sky or anything, would you?
I would. Just accepting bad luck makes no sense. If I were still alive, I would be angry. Because I got fucked over and I had no control whatsoever over it.
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>>29389462
Alright, you have some valid points, but what does being angry about it really give you?

I mean, you need to vent your anger and all, I get that, but in the long run, you kinda have to accept the fact that the world is unfair. I'm not saying you must assimilate, but unless being constantly angry and arguing with people on r9k brings you longterm joy, literally the only advice I can give you: find something else to keep your mind from the fact that world sucks and is unfair.

I don't know what that something is though, for some robots it might be assimilating and joining the rat race, for some it might be secluding, but for any robot individually I can't give a general advice since it would be truly pretentious and basically retarded.
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>>29389462
How can you be angry at Nature and God? Makes no sense.
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>>29389421

Yes I don't care about that Bangladeshi kid either. Humans are only capable of caring about a very small amount of people. I believe it's called the monkey sphere?

You're right about /r9k/. I come here because I am a 29 year old NEET loser. I can't drive, I have no ambition and no future. Coming here and talking with other people like myself makes the suffering a little more bearable.

Just like I'm sure that you have your own communities that you go to. Humans are social creatures by nature. The lack of human and social interaction is what creates a lot of robot problems in the first place I think.
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>>29385672
>you sperg out
>you walk away

Easy peasy.
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>>29389508
>Alright, you have some valid points, but what does being angry about it really give you?
At least I know I didn't accept it like a bitch. I can't do anything, that's true. But being angry at least I know I have my integrity. At least I know I am not pretending something just to feel happier. I know I'm not lying to myself about how okay it is that the world is unjust.

>find something else to keep your mind from the fact that world sucks and is unfair.
That would mean losing my integrity. Ignoring the shitty truth.

>I don't know what that something is though
Seclusion sounds nice. That's my long-term plan. But chances are I am not gonna be able to go through with it. You know how pissy normies are when you try to leave society.
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>>29389103
Every thread. Every single thread this same exact exchange happens. Some dumb normie faggot wanders into a thread to offer meaningless, unsolicited, and patronizing advice. He can't even fathom what it's like to live the life of a genetically-fucked, friendless, mentally-ill robot for a single day, but feels qualified to speak on it anyway, because his smug, unearned sense of superiority and total lack of both self-awareness and empathy outweigh his profound level of retardation. When someone finally pipes up and says, "No, that's not how it works, it doesn't work like that," he invariably flies into an autistic rage and starts insulting anyone who refuses to acknowledge his banal platitudes, ignorant assumptions, and cliched "tough love" virtue-signalling as anything other than clueless, rambling bullshit. He desperately clings onto this naive idea that only bad people fail in life and demonizes sad, lonely men who were fucked over by their genes, their parents, their peers, their social class, their environment, and so on, and who keep consistently failing in life time and time and time again despite their best efforts, because it's easier for him to make them out to be deserving of their pain rather than to feel even the slightest shred of compassion or, God forbid, pity.

Fuck off, you embarrassing excuse for a human being.
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Kek, I used to be as delusional as you nerds.
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>>29389532
Just like that. It's pretty easy. I can be angry at nature and I can be angry at everything if I got fucked over by something out of my control.
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>>29389581

But why? It doesn't change anything. It won't make your situation better. You're just wasting time and energy being mad over something you can't do anything about.
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>>29389462
You can not make this kind of shit up. Simply pathetic.
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>>29389646

That anon shows up in every thread saying the exact same shit. Its kind of sad
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>>29389625
If I let myself not be angry then it would mean I am accepting it. And who in their right mind would accept being treated worse based on things out of ones control? I can't let myself stop being angry. I guess I have too much pride, which mind sound contradictory but I think it's related.

>>29389646
Any points?
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>>29389689
About chads and how lucky they are? He's easy to spot. It's getting incredibly annoying. He has nothing else to talk about.
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>>29386600

Let us know how the date goes after she discovers your dwarfism, Dubs dubs
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>>29389694
>i am accepting it
Lmao you are accepting it you spineless faggot. You KEEP talking about how you don't accept it and that you won't accept it yet all you do is sit on here and complain about how chads are so lucky and ruining your life. Your delusion about this strawman is insane. It baffles me that you think it's real.

Do something about it if you hate them so much
>b-but c-chads will always have it better than me

There is quite literally no hope with you. You are a defeatist with poor attitude and poor discipline. For someone who's "not accepting it" you're doing a whole lot of fuck all about it you delusional child.
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>>29385672
it happened to me a couple times, I found an excuse to cancel the date
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>>29389694

Accepting that there's shit you can't control is part of growing up. Your family could die in a car accident tomorrow, your neighbor could accidentally start a fire that fucks up your house while you're not there, a tree could fall on your car, etc etc.

You wasting your life being mad when it doesn't change the outcome besides making you more stressed and pushing others away. This is basic shit people figure out. Why haven't you?
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>>29387649
That anon is the robot I aspire to be. Shutting up all the normies(and roasties) on /r9k/.

I support him 100%
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>>29389773
>girl says yes to a date
>reject her
There's no winning with you fucking idiots.
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>>29389800
aspiring to be a delusional beta who complains because he can't get a gf, great aspirations bro
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>>29389768
>Lmao you are accepting it you spineless faggot. You KEEP talking about how you don't accept it and that you won't accept it yet all you do is sit on here and complain about how chads are so lucky and ruining your life. Your delusion about this strawman is insane. It baffles me that you think it's real.
Not really. Unless I decide I have accepted I haven't accepted it. You think if I worked hard to overcome it I wouldn't be accepting it? I would.

>Do something about it if you hate them so much
You don't want that.

>For someone who's "not accepting it" you're doing a whole lot of fuck all about it you delusional child.
By doing anything about it, you are in fact accepting it.

>>29389787
>Accepting that there's shit you can't control is part of growing up.
Then I haven't grown up it seems. Pretty funny considering I'm 24.
>You wasting your life being mad when it doesn't change the outcome besides making you more stressed and pushing others away.
But if I accept it then I wouldn't be able to look at myself knowing I am okay with being shat on. I can't live like that. That would make me much more miserable than I am now. To accept this is defeat.
>This is basic shit people figure out. Why haven't you?
God knows why. I haven't always been like this. I haven't had these thoughts until about 2 years ago. Maybe my brain somehow degenerated. Maybe it's all the alcohol. Who knows.
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>>29389863
Classic deflection and denial. You're never going to achieve shit in life son. You're pathetic and your days will continue to be just this. Arguing with strangers on 4chan instead of "defeating the chads" that you speak so lowly of.

You have legitimate problems and you can't see it. Delusions of greatness, but no spine, will power or drive to even get started.
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>>29389800
You shouldn't aspire to be me. Only reason I am always having these conversation is that I hear that magical argument that makes me understand.

There must be some magical point that normies understand that makes them go on without being angry and hateful like me. I don't know what it is. I figured here in anonymous setting I should be able to understand, but all I ever hear is "that's world", "deal with it" or "that's how it is". Which isn't really enough for me.
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>>29389863
You've accepted it because you're all talk and no action. And that's all you'll ever be while you sit away whinging on 4chan about chads and lucky people. You're the epitome of those people that have big hopes and dreams and never follow through. Embarrassing.
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>>29389879
>Arguing with strangers on 4chan instead of "defeating the chads" that you speak so lowly of.
That's the point I can not defeat them. It's like a running race where I have a beartrap on my leg. I can't catch up to them. Whatever I do to improve myself Chad also does, but his effort is more effecient due to being Chad. I'm like the donkey with a carrot hung in front of his head.
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>>29389863

If you accept it you can just move on and work on the things you can change. You keep complaining that people have it better than you when you make a concentrated effort to not make anything better for yourself.
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>>29389803
We wouldn't be there if we could off the ride easily
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>>29389893

People tell you to deal with it because that's all you can do. You either accept the cards you're dealt and do the best you can with what you have or sit and fester in your own bullshit like an angsty child.
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>>29389931
"chad" is more efficient because he has confidence. You'll always be one step behind with your absolutely piss poor defeatists attitude and piss poor confidence. You think you'll do bad? You will. You are your own worst enemy. No amount of whining will fix that because you lack self confidence. "chads" have nothing to do with it. Shut up with that strawman or I will report every post you make in every thread I find you in because that's all you fucking talk about cunt. It's getting old. Don't you have any other fucking topics of choice to whine about on this board of self pity and self loathing?
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>>29389566

I don't really agree with the integrity part, but to each his own. I mean, if integrity means that much to you, more than happiness, then I'm glad you atleast have that.

We do get pissy when people leave society (if they make it know, that is) because it people don't like others showing them that the way they chose in imperfect and flawed. However, as I said earlier, to each his own. Some will find happiness in society, some in seculsion. That's why the thing I hate the most about r9k is constant generalisations and whatnot. Just let people decide for themselves what the best course of action is.

I for one really am annoyed with society, the way things work, and all that, but my goal is to make my life, and life of those I care about, as enjoyable and comfy as possible. I don't hope to do more than that, I don't want world to change since I don't want to put enough effort to contribute to that. I just want to have a decent life, doing what I enjoy.

That is also the reason I don't really understand how can people be so devoted to certain ideologies. I don't mean being a commie or a nazi on internet, I mean literally devoting your life to a cause. How can a cause mean more to a person than his own life, that is beyond me. I'm not saying it good or bad, I just don't personally understand that.
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>>29389960
Saying yes to a date is one step closer to becoming a better functioning member of society. Why the fuck would you choke out at that point you dumb cunt.
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>>29390000
Because I'm always expecting a no and the shock of not being rejected if too much for me
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>>29389988
You should really stop talking to this guy. He literally can't stop talking about chads. His entire existence is delusional. Everyone who automatically does better than him is a chad. He has aspirations to do better but even those aspirations are futile because "chad has it easier". It's a lose lose situation for him. He's pathetic, and no amount of help will make him see that he's going nowhere and that his self pity will do him no favours.
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>>29387212
Literally this
Even autists are aware of the social consequences of approaching women.
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>>29390027
Next time you get a yes, follow through you fucking spastic. Dress well, shave your neck beard, wash and comb your hair. It's not, fucking rocket science. God I swear this entire board is a bunch of kids that got coddled to no end from their parents.
>>29390040
Classic defeatists attitude.
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>>29389930
>You've accepted it because you're all talk and no action.
But if I took action that would be the moment I accept it. Don't you understand?

You can try to shame me all you want but I only react to arguments.

>>29389935
>If you accept it you can just move on and work on the things you can change.
But knowing I accepted this injustice would make me even more hateful, but this time of myself. Knowing I was defeated and what more knowing I admitted the defeat. When you get born as an inferior human the world is constantly trying to shit in your mouth. To accept your inferiority and work on things you can change is the same as opening your mouth wide and giving society a thumbs up. All while being shat on.

>>29389972
Well if this is the truth, then what you said isn't the rational reaction. Rational reaction is to fight back. It's to show that I AM NOT OKAY with what is happening.

>>29389979
Chad has confidence due to being born with great looks and growing up in a constant loop of positive feedback.

>Shut up with that strawman or I will report every post you make in every thread I find you in because that's all you fucking talk about cunt.
Do it. If mods see fit to ban me, they are free to.
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The one gf I had she took all the initiative (which made no sense to me cause I was an autist) but then left me after 2 years to immediately enter a new relationship.

Every attempt on my own to find a girl has resulted in them forgetting about me. I can talk to them, I can get consecutive dates, but then they just stop and it makes me feel like shit.
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>>29390032
To be perfectly honest, I don't see you as any better person than he or anyone else here is.

What's your point man? Why do you have to put that guy down if you yourself see he is already being miserable. Do you think you're helping him? Do you think you'll force him to better himself by insulting him on r9k?

Just let the man believe what he wants and feel shitty if that's what he wants. Seriously, if his entire existence is delusional, why does it bother you so much? Can't you accept that there are people who are radically different than you are?

Let robots be robots mate. He can't change the fact that Chads exist, and you can't change the fact he is bothered by it. Do the same thing people advise him to do: focus on things that you can improve in your life, and stop trying to "fix" people who don't need/want you to "fix" them.
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>>29390065
>But if I took action that would be the moment I accept it
This makes no sense at all. Taking action means "beating" the chads at their own game. Not accepting it you fucking fool. I can tell English isn't your first language, and if it is, it'd do you wise to learn it more.
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>>29390027
I bet this happened once. You had one shot and you blew it kid
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Anyone can be a Chad. You have to understand the superficial stupidity of women first.

Women go for what they believe is desirable by their peers. This means you need to get guy friends, or get something a lot of guys desire. When women are sure that you have social capital, they'll find you appealing.

If you awkwardly approach a girl nervous as fuck, on your own, with no indication of holding any social capital, it's likely to end badly.

So being Chad isn't hard. It's about social capital, not looks. And while looks is a former of social capital, it's sure as shit not the only type. I got so much poontang when I had my turbo car because all my guy friends would circle jerk over it. Girls saw this, and so wanted Mt o circle jerk on them. Simple.

These days im a Doctor. And once again I'm a Chad because I got social capital.
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>>29390065

It doesn't matter if you're okay with it or not. You're not understanding. Reality is what it is, being mad won't change it.
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>>29389988
>I mean, if integrity means that much to you, more than happiness, then I'm glad you atleast have that.
How could it not mean much to me?

>However, as I said earlier, to each his own. Some will find happiness in society, some in seculsion.
Then why do people who leave get dragged back? Like that guy who was living in the woods in Toscany (I think, don't quote me for it). Some random tourist saw him, he notified authorities and his whole family started looking for him. He was in the woods for over 10 years but the normies just didn't want to let him go.

>I mean literally devoting your life to a cause. How can a cause mean more to a person than his own life, that is beyond me. I'm not saying it good or bad, I just don't personally understand that.
I for one can understand that. Who knows maybe I'm just too dumb and malleable. Despite sounding edgy, I don't consider my life to be that valuable. I had a phase when I wanted to kill myself a lot (I even got a gun) and then I just kinda burned out. So devoting your life to something is easy if you don't believe it to have any value.
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>>29390106
>He can't change the fact that chads exist
Chads don't exist though. By his definition, anyone who is doing better than him is a chad. Which means pretty much everyone is doing better than him. No one has it "easier" than him. They work harder for it instead of whinging about how "easy" chads have it online on 4chan 24/7.

I don't care if you think I come across as a cunt. This guy is delusional as hell. I'll put him down because I've been replying to him for hours on and off and he refuses to see reason.

Every single response is "chads have it easier because they're naturally born good looking with high test levels and confidence".

Every response is a variation of the same thing and he says "I have no proof that he is wrong".

He's in absolute denial that he might be wrong and refuses to see reason that he's just a lazy cunt.
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>>29390040
There are only consequences like this if you're the kind of retard who will approach every girl at his school or work sequentially after ch one rejects him, that will get you labeled as weird because it is pretty weird.

However doing that at a club or show or whatever, where the main purpose of anyone being there is to hook up with someone, is socially fine.

Basically, it's fine to be rejected as many times as it takes as long as you don't then have to be in close proximity the girls who rejected you again.
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>>29390175
This. You'll get labelled as a creep if you act like one. No one will bat an eye lid if you ask out a girl once every few months. Don't ask out every fucking girl in sight.
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>>29390116
You're right. English isn't my first language and it shows.

How does it not make sense? The moment you started working to overcome your shortcomings is the moment you accepted them as something you can't change.

>>29390131
I reject it. If this is the reality of living in society then I can only strive not to live in it.
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>>29385630
Nice post OP, you seem like an okay guy, not a thread you normally see. Normally it's either proper robots Ree'ing (in which I can confine) or normies (Who've infested this board) ridiculing robots.

But these OP post is a nice balanced and even positive outview to start the thread. Well done.

However,

>you go up to talk to a girl
>she doesn't show any interest
>you sperg out completely
>you walk away

Is exactly how it goes, allthough the ending isn't quite proper.

You feel as if you've ridiculed yourself and made a fool out of said person, instead of ''Lel let's pretend nothing happened I'm a normie so I don't care.''

Excuse me for my cynism OP but this is how we roll.
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>>29390123

Anon Speaks the truth
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>>29390218
>The moment you started working to overcome your shortcomings is the moment you accepted them as something you can't change.
This makes NO logical sense at all you fucking idiot. I'm working to over come my overweight body and working on becoming more muscular. That's something I can change, and it's working very well. By your definition, every time you go to change something you may as well admit defeat from the start.

The amount of edgy opinions you spew is tantamount to insanity.
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>>29390218

Again, reality doesn't need to be accepted. It exists whether you agree with it or not.
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>>29390218
Your logic is incredibly flawed.
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>>29390218
>The moment you started working to overcome your shortcomings is the moment you accepted them as something you can't change.

What are you talking about?

I don' know if there's a language barrier here but that really doesn't make sense?

Are you saying that, because you admit that you need to work hard to make yourself better, it becomes irrelevant because you're admitting that others are already better?

Should we just give up at the first sign of adversity?

>If this is the reality of living in society then I can only strive not to live in it.

Well unless you want to learn a lot of bushcraft and go eke out a meager existence in a forest somewhere you should probably kill yourself then? Your "rejection" of it means absolutely nothing.
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>>29390218
>The moment you started working to overcome your shortcomings is the moment you accepted them as something you can't change.
Fucking what.
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>>29390246
Well I was talking more about things you can not change. if you started working you admit defeat. And even if you improve you never win. Not with things that can not be changed, because they're still there.

>>29390253
And I won't accept it if it means being treated worse for things out of my control. That would be a sure way to go insane.

>>29390265
I'm almost tempted to ask you to elaborate, but your answer would be retarded I think.
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>>29390218
In all of my years on this website I've seen some stupid posts. This is up there.
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>>29390322
>if you started working you admit defeat. And even if you improve you never win. Not with things that can not be changed, because they're still there.
You can not be this retarded. Surely.
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>>29390322
>by choosing to better yourself, and improve your overall health, you're admitting defeat
Please, please be joking. You can't be serious.
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>>29385811
this shit exactly.

this isn't original ik
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>>29390290
>>29390295
>Are you saying that, because you admit that you need to work hard to make yourself better, it becomes irrelevant because you're admitting that others are already better?
When I start working hard to overcome something I had no control over, that is the moment I validate those who have been treating me like shit because of these things. I pretty much act like they were justified to. I start playing by their rules. Then they would win. Because I would be forced to do what they want me to do and I would no longer be in control. Because I got forced, I got pushed into improving through bad treatment.

And I will NOT let myself be pushed into doing something.
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>>29390326
>>29390349
>>29390383
Insults and shaming. So typical for a normie.
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>>29390322
>Well I was talking more about things you can not change.

The only things I can think of are height and facial structure? (although plastic surgery is a thing). Other than those and actual disabilities surely every other aspect an be changed with effort?

>if you started working you admit defeat.

That makes absolutely no sense? What do yo even mean by that?

>And even if you improve you never win.

Again, what the fuck are you talking about?
Are you saying that no one has ever been bad at something, then become proficient through practice? Isn't that how literally all skill and success in a field is acquired?

>And I won't accept it if it means being treated worse for things out of my control.

Okay I'll humor you. What exactly does you "not accepting" it change? How is your life any different if you say "I don't accept this reality!" as opposed to accepting it?

>That would be a sure way to go insane.

So you literally can't comprehend the concept that luck plays a part in life and that things out of your control may fuck you over?

Are you a toddler?

>I'm almost tempted to ask you to elaborate, but your answer would be retarded I think.

ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I really don't know whether it's your shaky grasp of english that's causing the confusion here or if we're all just being subtly trolled.
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>>29390405
I exercise to improve my fitness, health, and my bodies physique. Jesus Christ kid, you've got some problems. We're not all doing shit to impress society. You are some kind of fucked up.
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>>29389773
Same here. I don't often get female attention but when i do (even in a relationship) i freak out and start avoiding them because i feel like their interest in me is them being deceived and it's just a matter of time until they realize that i'm human trash.
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>>29390430
Pretty sure he's legitimately insane. By his logic, improving yourself is defeat. In fact it's quite the opposite.
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>>29390430
>The only things I can think of are height and facial structure?
And penis size, frame, family(wealth/status).

>That makes absolutely no sense? What do yo even mean by that?
This >>29390405

>What exactly does you "not accepting" it change? How is your life any different if you say "I don't accept this reality!" as opposed to accepting it?
Then I didn't bend over. I didn't succumb to something that isn't fair.

>So you literally can't comprehend the concept that luck plays a part in life and that things out of your control may fuck you over?
I can comprehend the concept. I can't comprehend why should I not be angry about it.

>>29390431
I think you're kidding yourself. But obviously I can't know for sure.
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>>29390405
>When I start working hard to overcome something I had no control over

What do you mean "you had no control over"?

What kind of things are you actually talking about? Do you mean like working out? practicing a skill? Surely the very fact that you are able to work at them shows you DO have control over it? At least to some degree

>that is the moment I validate those who have been treating me like shit because of these things.

Well, yeah? You're "validating" their opinion that, say, it's bad to weigh 300 pounds, but if you do actually work at it then very soon you will no longer weigh 300 pounds?

> I pretty much act like they were justified to. I start playing by their rules. Then they would win. Because I would be forced to do what they want me to do and I would no longer be in control. Because I got forced, I got pushed into improving through bad treatment.

I really can't grasp your logic here? You'd be completely happy to wallow in absolute failure and despair just out of spite to the people who would judge you for it and want you to be better?

I'm honestly not trying to insult you here, but are you autistic? I've worked with many people with autism and this kind of vehement denial of any suggested action regardless of whether the action is beneficial to you is a pretty common symptom
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>>29390438
This, I ended up turning down 2-3 girls this way, including the fact I was in places I'm not used to (bar/clubs). I also assume they're trashy women due to where we are, but that's another way I stop myself out of fear.
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>>29390513
Please seek psychiatric help. I mean that in the nicest way possible.
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>>29390521
>I really can't grasp your logic here? You'd be completely happy to wallow in absolute failure and despair just out of spite to the people who would judge you for it and want you to be better?
This is what baffles me about this guy. He hates society so much that he won't better himself just to spite people because it might help him or something? I don't understand what's going on inside his head.
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Wow, reading through this thread actually made me even more insecure. Good job, OP.
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>>29390438
> i feel like their interest in me is them being deceived and it's just a matter of time until they realize that i'm human trash.
fucking this, or that you think that they are playing games on you.
I obliterated a chance, and a friendship with this female friend that way.
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>>29390521
>What kind of things are you actually talking about?
Height, looks, family, etc.

>I really can't grasp your logic here? You'd be completely happy to wallow in absolute failure and despair just out of spite to the people who would judge you for it and want you to be better?
Yes. They want me to be better so I am more valuable to society. There is ulterior motive.

>I'm honestly not trying to insult you here, but are you autistic?
No I haven't been diagnosed. Then again to get diagnosed as an autist you would need to have legitimate problems, like drooling retard tier.
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>>29390583
>Yes. They want me to be better so I am more valuable to society. There is ulterior motive.
HOW DARE PEOPLE WANT YOU TO BECOME A BETTER PERSON! HOW DARE THEY CARE ABOUT OUR WELL BEING AND WANT TO SEE YOU SUCCEED AND THRIVE IN THE WORLD!

Seriously cunt, you're fucked up. You're spiting people that want to help you for no reason. You have some seriously mental issues and you need a genuine psychiatric evaluation. Ask your parents if you can see your local GP.
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>>29389570
this honestly. i just ignore them usually
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>>29390583
>Then again to get diagnosed as an autist you would need to have legitimate problems, like drooling retard tier.
This is how I know you don't get out often. There are many kinds of autism on the spectrum. And a lot of them function well in society.

Source: I was hanging out with one the other night. He was nice, but you could tell he had some mental issues.
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>>29390530
I don't need it. I just need you people to tell me why I'm wrong. But you can't do that.

>>29390625
But they know I can never succeed. Thanks to my inferiority I will at most be a worker ant. They just want more worker ants. They don't give a shit about their well being. They are simplying trying to cuck me into providing.

I don't think I have mental issues. I just think you're too dumb to provide a retort.
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>>29390631
>I just ignore anyone that challenges my opinions
How very tumblr of you.
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>>29390625
>HOW DARE THEY CARE ABOUT OUR WELL BEING AND WANT TO SEE YOU SUCCEED AND THRIVE IN THE WORLD!
He'll never succeed because he's a manlet, poor, probably bald, has a short dick, and is a robot. That is, if he's the anon I think he is.

The game is rigged and he lost the genetic lottery, no point in trying.
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>>29390583
>Height, looks, family, etc.

Unless you're a midget, height doesn't matter as much as you think it does. Looks can be improved with style, fitness and in extreme cases surgery, family are irrelevant, many people have been massively successful with no family to speak of.

>Yes. They want me to be better so I am more valuable to society. There is ulterior motive.

Ignoring anyone who might just want you to be better for your own sake, and assuming that there is an "ulterior motive", why does that make any difference?

Why does the potential of an ulterior motive that doesn't negatively effect you in any way (in fact it very much positively affects you) negate the benefit of self improvement?

If you met a wizard who could instantly make you 6'4", rich and ripped with a 9" dick with absolutely no repercussions for you BUT was only doing it because he wanted to better society by improving the average height, penis size, level of success etc. and resented you for being such a failure would you accept it?

If the answer is yes, then surely you're admitting that it's actually the effort required for success that is turning you away from it?

If you'd answer no, why?

>Then again to get diagnosed as an autist you would need to have legitimate problems, like drooling retard tier.

That isn't true whatsoever, the vast majority of people diagnosed on the autism spectrum are high functioning and show few obvious symptoms.
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>>29390642
>This is how I know you don't get out often.
No I meant something else. Like some other poster pointed out, I'm not native english speaker. I live in eastern europe and I'm not that far from 25 years. When I was growing up, autist meant someone who was unable to function normally AT ALL. If you weren't like that you would never get diagnosed with autism. No one even knew what assburger was. Nowadays it's different be in the 90s no one gave a fuck.
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>somewhat bad acne and scarring
>food allergies (kissing could cause reaction)

If it wasn't for those things I wouldn't have much trouble in this area.
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>>29390677
He has some kind of problems. It's clear. I have to go on the defensive though. I'm a manlet myself and this has never been an issue for me meeting women. I'm 5'8 and literally none of them care. Most of them are the same height as me anyway so it's all good.

>That is, if he's the anon I think he is
"Chads are lucky, they have it easier, they get everything in life and don't even try".
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>>29390672
Lol, don't flatter yourself.
I skip over troll posts because they have nothing of substance to say. My opinions don't get challenged if it doesn't even pass the test of having good arguments.
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>>29389570
>deserving of their pain
Most robots deserve their misery tho.
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>>29390123
truth on that
before becoming a doctor no one gave a shit, now pussy throws themselves on me and I'm the same lanky manlet
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>>29387858
obvious bait is obvious, heres your (you) now fuck off
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>>29390696
>Unless you're a midget, height doesn't matter as much as you think it does.
That's for sure not what women say.

>Ignoring anyone who might just want you to be better for your own sake, and assuming that there is an "ulterior motive", why does that make any difference?
Because it's not genuine. That's what I implied by talking about ulterior motives.

>Why does the potential of an ulterior motive that doesn't negatively effect you in any way (in fact it very much positively affects you) negate the benefit of self improvement?
Because it means I'm getting taken advantage of.

>If you met a wizard who could instantly make you 6'4", rich and ripped with a 9" dick with absolutely no repercussions for you BUT was only doing it because he wanted to better society by improving the average height, penis size, level of success etc. and resented you for being such a failure would you accept it?
That's a hard question. I guess I would try it just out of curiosity but there would still be a bitter aftertaste. I'm not sure if I could live with that.

>That isn't true whatsoever, the vast majority of people diagnosed on the autism spectrum are high functioning and show few obvious symptoms.
I should have elaborated more in my original post. Here is what I meant >>29390701
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>>29390696
>If the answer is yes, then surely you're admitting that it's actually the effort required for success that is turning you away from it?
This is all I've been thinking the entire time from him. He won't directly answer questions though.
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>>29385859
I'm a fucking skeleton
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>>29390734
>"Chads are lucky, they have it easier, they get everything in life and don't even try".
When you just take this statement as it is, outside of the context of this argument, it's completely true.
Now when you use it as an excuse to not try, that's a different story, but the statement alone is true.
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>>29390750
It's not bait. It's true. The majority of people here are coddled as fuck and are too afraid to work hard in society. "wah muh feelings, chads are too good and have it easy, i'm destined to fail".

This board is a fucking pity party.
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>>29385689
>upbringing

Sorry pal. It's not from that at all. You're not a victim
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>>29390743

How can you say something like that? That's completely ridiculous. Do you know why robots have bad attitudes? It's not the cause of their misery, it's the result. Anyone would be jaded and miserable if they were just fucking shat on by life every single day for factors outside of their control.
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>>29389103
I don't get why people try to hurt other people's self-esteems.
No one likes someone who puts others down to make himself feel better.
It's childish, grow up.
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>>29385922
Intelligence very much relates to how social you are
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>>29390786
The difference is, if you want to look at it from the traditional point of view, chads aren't someone you really want to look up to. They're douchey, fuccbois and probably not as successful as you think. Now getting into a proper relationship with a woman and laying down a stable job? That's even sexier to a woman.
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>>29385630
I did and then she reported me to campus police
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>>29390793
>and are too afraid to work hard in society
Yes, we should all strive to be wageslaves. Fuck off, norman.
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This is something that me and one online friend of mine thought about and tried. We had these challenges for eachother in order to help eachother improve.
In the long run forcing ourselves to talk to people only made both of us hate people even more, realise how fucking shallow and irritating people are which in turn made us more of a shutins.
Sure was a good experiment.
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>>29390795
Personality is mostly fixed after a certain age. Robots fucked up by not realizing this and fixing it asap.

That they are a bunch of caustic cunts with slave morality doesn't help either.
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>>29390810
It's not like you faggots can get any lower. Why should I treat you with respect? All you do is circle jerk about how you hate "normies" anyway and how much you're all so different from society and such special snowflakes.
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>>29390823
>proper relationship with a woman and laying down a stable job?
Yeah, gold diggers are a real catch.
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>>29390835
>waveslaves
>norman
Ah, the words of someone who can't have a decent discussion. Internet buzzwords aren't an argument friend. And they're not helping you prove your point at all.
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>>29390823
>Now getting into a proper relationship with a woman and laying down a stable job?
Maybe if I weren't fucked by the genetic lottery I could have a proper relationship with a woman. But, I'm sexually undesirable to every woman.
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Here's the thing you don't realize or admit to yourself
Unless you're an 8+/10 social status is everything. Women take social value way more seriously than you can comprehend.
It doesn't matter how you dress, how you articulate yourself, how much self improvement you invest in, etc
Once a girl gets a wiff you have no social circle or one that is boring, she will immediately write you off as a loser
You have no friends? No one is really gonna invite you out anywhere even if they think you're decent which just keeps you in the pit
You really only have one 2 chances to turn things around and that is the beginning of high school and the beginning of college. After that there is no hope
The reason nobody ever posts this is because you can't change this unless you get extremely lucky. Once youre in the hole you're out of luck.
Rip off that bandaid
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>>29390858
I mean if you want to take the cynical typical 4chan hive mind approach, sure? That's not at all what I was getting at though.
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>>29390762
>That's for sure not what women say.

I'm sure you have a very realistic and unbiased view of what women say

>Because it's not genuine.

BUT WHY DOES THAT MATTER?

Why does their lack of genuineness affect you in any way whatsoever? Whatever ulterior motive they may have is the byproduct of your self improvement. It doesn't tarnish the value of betterment made to yourself in any way.

>Because it means I'm getting taken advantage of.

How?

Where exactly are you being taken advantage of? Because as far as I'm concerned you personally improving your lot in life can in no way be described as someone taking advantage of you.

EVEN IF they did have this "Ulterior motive" you speak of, any concern they might have with you will be short lived and vapid. sure some chad might laugh at you and say "wow dude you should improve yourself", and sure you can go "no fuck you chad I play buy my own rules!", but then a day, week or year later that chad will have absolutely no memory of your existence and will be out enjoying his life whilst your sill there going "fuck you chad I win because I'm a failure!"

>I'm not sure if I could live with that.

Live with what though?

Where does the negativity actually come from? Is it purely because you're against being coerced into doing anything?

If a group of people organised themselves to constantly try to persuade you to be a lazy failure and not to try at improve yourself at all, would you change your tune and do the opposite?
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>>29390875
This man preaches the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
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>>29390871
There's no point in working hard for society if you'll never be able to have your own family. I'll always be alone.

I'd rather be on neetbux and shitpost on /r9k/ for the rest of my life.
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>>29390835
The fact that you can't separate the concepts of "working hard in society" and "being a wageslave" (which is a meme anyway) is pretty sad
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>>29390851
Absolutely, personality is locked-in after a young age, but are you seriously blaming robots for not "figuring out" this fact as children? Your success in life has nothing to do with figuring this out and everything to do with your genetics and upbringing. If they're good, you'll be fine. If they're bad, you're fucked. Robots fall into the latter category.
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>>29390894
what else could you possibly be implying when saying that people like us should find women who like us for "a stable career"
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>>29390873
If you were a real robot, it'd make sense. Because literally everything you say is the same: "wah wah muh genetic lottery, chads reeeeeee lucky, they don't work hard".

Now fucking do something about it, or fuck off and stop making a variation of the same fucking post over and over.
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>>29390734
Chads work very hard to become social and get in good shape. It's robots who don't try.
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>>29390875
Then why are there loads of loner couples at my university? I know many many nerdy, awkward couples who only ever see each other and have little to no friends to speak of outside of each other who have been together happily for a long time.

What of them?
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>>29390858
Uh, stable jobs don't mean you're loaded.
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>>29390926
>I'd rather be on neetbux and shitpost on /r9k/ for the rest of my life.
It's a shame your parents will probably shun you, kick you out, or you'll die of obesity and poor health before then. What a pathetic waste of human space.
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>>29390901
>I'm sure you have a very realistic and unbiased view of what women say
Well I asked some of them.

>Whatever ulterior motive they may have is the byproduct of your self improvement. It doesn't tarnish the value of betterment made to yourself in any way.
Because it's the same people who treated me like shit. And how I should help their society as a byproduct?

>sure some chad might laugh at you and say "wow dude you should improve yourself", and sure you can go "no fuck you chad I play buy my own rules!", but then a day, week or year later that chad will have absolutely no memory of your existence and will be out enjoying his life whilst your sill there going "fuck you chad I win because I'm a failure!"
If I work hard to get what the Chad gets easily then I am still a failure. Chad always wins because he got born a Chad.

>Where does the negativity actually come from? Is it purely because you're against being coerced into doing anything?
Yes.

>If a group of people organised themselves to constantly try to persuade you to be a lazy failure and not to try at improve yourself at all, would you change your tune and do the opposite?
They have nothing to gain if I am a lazy failure. So no, I would not.
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>>29390947
Anyone who is more successful than this kid is a chad to him. He's too lazy to do anything and his excuse is "chads, society, lucky, genetic lottery". Fucking broken record.
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>>29390963
That guy has never gone outside, and thinks high society movies represent real life.
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>>29390936
>but are you seriously blaming robots for not "figuring out" this fact as children?
Yes, most children learn to act in a way that conforms to expectation, from then on they become normies, and go on to experiment with teenage sex, drugs and entitlement.

>everything to do with your genetics and upbringing
Not really, unless you are an ethnic minority in your country, or if your parent are meth fiends, being fucked up goes a lot further than social anxiety.

Robots, from what i've seen on this board for 8 years, shot themselves in the foot by spending their teenage years in front of a computer.
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>>29390762
>>29390901
>some chad might laugh at you and say "wow dude you should improve yourself", and sure you can go "no fuck you chad I play buy my own rules!", but then a day, week or year later that chad will have absolutely no memory of your existence and will be out enjoying his life whilst your sill there going "fuck you chad I win because I'm a failure!"

This basically sums up everyones opposition to your views guy.

I get where your coming from with your opposition to being "forced" to do anything by societal opinion, but at the end of the day you're the one who is going to have to live with the life you've wrought.

You can willingly and valorously fail just to uphold your principles, but you'll still just be a well principled failure.
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>>29390987
>Chad always wins because he got born a Chad.
Lmao what the fuck. PLEASE GET HELP.
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>>29390987
So you're bitter and lazy and obsessed with how other people spend their lives? Sounds like you're a reality tv watching woman.
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>>29390853
>being a robot doesn't set you apart from other people
>being removed from society doesn't make you an outlier, and thus, "special"
klelk
If you are a robot, you are by definition not normal, not part of the overwhelming majority, and therefore qualify as "special." That includes everything good and bad that being "special" entails. Stay mad, you boring, vapid, unoriginal, creatively-void, useless, talentless, bog-standard normie faggot.
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>>29390989
I never understood why people have the logic "I can't be equal to the best so I won't try and be above average", then complain about being alone, then call all women whores.
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>>29391013
>>29391008
It's the one guy. He pops up in a bunch of threads.

He complains about how chads have it easy in life and how he god the bad genetic lottery, but he won't do anything to change it because "chads win anyway". So it's kind of a futile concept for him.
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>>29390947
Getting in good shape won't make me taller, get better facial structure, make me less of a hairy gorilla, grow a bigger dick (there's isn't even surgery for this shit), like I said there's no point in trying. And no, I won't work to be productive for society. Seriously, fuck off with that shit.

I'm not the 25 year old anon you're thinking about though. I'm relatively healthy physically and I don't have a job.
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This thread is fuckin' hysterical. Are we really being invaded by redditors, bros?
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>>29391035
Body dysmporphia. Nothing more.
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>>29391035
You're way too obsessed with small things. You literally made a list so you don't need to work on yourself. It's a joke
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>>29391008
>You can willingly and valorously fail just to uphold your principles, but you'll still just be a well principled failure.
At least I will know I'm not a sellout who traded his integrity for some fake happiness.
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>>29391035
>And no, I won't work to be productive for society. Seriously, fuck off with that shit.
Don't say it's because of "principles". You're a lazy, degenerate cunt and you know it. You should be disgusted in yourself for living off neetbux.

The thing about you /r9k/ posters is that you live on the internet so much that you forget how different the real world is, and you'll believe anything people on here tell you. The real world aint so bad.
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>>29390987
>Well I asked some of them.

Good for you, do you think it was a large enough sample size to be significant data?

>Because it's the same people who treated me like shit.

Can you not comprehend the idea that there are people who would like to see you succeed out of benevolence? That there are those who simply like seeing happiness and success in others?

>And how I should help their society as a byproduct?

It's not "their" society, it's just society. You're a part of it whether you like it or not.

>If I work hard to get what the Chad gets easily then I am still a failure.

The fact you think chad get's it "easy" shows your worldview is pretty fucked. Sure there are guys who won the genetic lottery and are born into money or whatever, but that's a tiny tiny proportion of men The vast majority of people you'd describe as "chads" are people who simply put in more effort than you and so reaped the rewards of said effort.

>Chad always wins because he got born a Chad.

Okay? Good for him. But why does that stop you from winning as well?

>They have nothing to gain if I am a lazy failure. So no, I would not.

What if they wanted you to stay that way so they could feel self assured that they'r better than you? Seeing someone who is more of a failure than oneself can be very cathartic.
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>>29391002
>Not really, unless you are an ethnic minority in your country, or if your parent are meth fiends, being fucked up goes a lot further than social anxiety.

>what is mental illness
>what is the Halo Effect
>what is peer rejection
>what is the basis for your personality and how you carry yourself through life at any given second
Please, lad, just stop. If you don't think your genetics and upbringing essentially determine your life then you're simply an idiot.
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>>29391035
>relatively healthy

>being over 18% body fat
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>>29391060
But your integrity is worthless if there is nobody else to appreciate it. You're not a journalist
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>>29391035
>relatively healthy
Sitting on your computer all day isn't healthy no matter how lean you are. I doubt you could run a mile or pull up your own body weight.
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>>29385730
I accept this logic, senpai, and I actually do this most of the time. The problem is a physically start to shake in situations like this, and my mind races so fast that I can't think about anything to say. It's a physiological, instinctual, fear reaction. If I would have a steady supply of xanax or adderall maybe, but until I get those it's hard to overcome. Breathing excersizes are a load of bullshit.
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>>29391078
>What is x

Things that don't matter, most kids shape themselves up before they turn 13. Robots don't, which is why they are fuck ups.
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>>29391060
>fake happiness
You are legitimately insane. What the actual fuck is wrong with you. People like to live a normal, functioning life with friends and want to socialise. They are genuinely happy.

They didn't "trade their integrity". What the fuck is wrong with you. Did you just hit your angst phase at 24?
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>>29391107
But it's all those other reasons why he's single, and not because he is a bitter fatty
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>>29387261
go tell an ugly person to just be himself.

it feels so natural to handsome people to say "just be yourself" because that IS all they need to do, the looks handle everything else.
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>>29385735
attitude nigger
if you believe in yourself and show that you are happy with yourself
the lesser women will see and feel that
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>>29391138
Looks aren't everything. The real world isn't as shallow as robots
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>>29385630
>at worse, nothing happens
Oh, yes, something does happen when somebody rejects you. Each and every time you lose a tiny part of your soul until you perceive yourself as nothing other than the cockroach you really are.

Being immediately rejected by the world like an uncompatible transplanted organ does leave its impact on your sense of self-worth until you feel like you're suffocating in the depths of a seemingly endless sea.

Please, just spare us with your advice. Even though your intentions are good, you're doing more harm. We're living in different realities.
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>>29391138
You can be attractive as fuck and be a terrible person. It's entirely possible and quite common if you leave your bedroom and interact with people. I know plenty of people that are good looking and a lot of people don't like their personalities.
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>>29391167
This is retarded. You're like a feminist with self victimization. Not everyone will want to date everyone. That doesn't mean you lose "your soul". It means move on.
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>>29390708
No thoughts on this?
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>>29391136
This whole thread is full of sorry excuses for people. There's only a couple of people in here trying to get them to see reason but everything they come back is an excuse as to why they can't function. All poor excuses I might add.
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>>29391077
>Can you not comprehend the idea that there are people who would like to see you succeed out of benevolence? That there are those who simply like seeing happiness and success in others?
I can not comprehend that.

>It's not "their" society, it's just society. You're a part of it whether you like it or not.
I'm not. I strive not to be.

>The vast majority of people you'd describe as "chads" are people who simply put in more effort than you and so reaped the rewards of said effort.
Not really. I know tall guys who put in less effort. Sometimes even none.

>Okay? Good for him. But why does that stop you from winning as well?
Not being a Chad.

>What if they wanted you to stay that way so they could feel self assured that they'r better than you? Seeing someone who is more of a failure than oneself can be very cathartic.
That's possible. Just proves that you can't win in human society. So you must leave it.

>>29391085
Integrity doesn't need anyone to appreciate it.

>>29391132
>They are genuinely happy.
If you ignore the truth or occupy your mind with something to not think about the bad things, then your happiness is fake.
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>>29391167
>WAHHHHH WHY DON'T I INSTANTLY SUCCEED AT EVERYTHING LIFE IS HARRRDDDDDDDD

Do you have any idea how many times the average "normie" will try to pick up girls before he succeeds?

I've felt like you before as a kid, and I understand where you're coming from, but just know that in reality everyone else is doing the exact same thing. You feeling like that is potentially a sign of poor mental health, if the fear of failure is really impacting your life that badly then you should honestly get professional help.
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>>29391167
>lose a tiny part of your soul
Nice exaggeration you fucking special snowflake faggot. You've probably asked out one girl.
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>>29391219
Yeah it does. If you just tell yourself you have integrity, it's pointless.
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>>29390947
>work very hard
I'm friends with a bunch of chad senpai, they don't work that hard. They were like that since childhood. It's what they were conditioned to accept, like a poor 3rd world kid conditioned to accept spending his hold day in a shipbreaking yard.

I don't get this fascination with becoming chad anyway. It seems tiring, and limiting to spend all your time on social media and/or working out. I just want a few close friends and a girlfriend who loves me.
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>>29390032
>>29390990
>>29390553
>>29390503
>>29390032
You really like to jerk off everyone that has the same opinion as you. Don't you, faggot?

>this guy
>this guy
>this guy
>don't bother replying to him
>I don't understand why he's like that
>that's what I don't understand about him
Jesus, stop.
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>finally asked a girl out this year
>she says yes
>fuckyeahididit.jpg
>very nervous for date
>research where to go
>think about parking, crowds, the whole deal
>day before date get a text
>"I'm sick sorry have to cancel"
>Try to reschedule
>Continues with excuses

Well at least I tried.
>foreveralone.png
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>>29391219
>If you ignore the truth or occupy your mind with something to not think about the bad things, then your happiness is fake.
Like I keep saying, please seek psychiatric help.
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>>29391228
No shit. He probably creeped on one girl for 3 years, told her he loved her, over text, then when she was rightfully grossed out he spazzed out at her.
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>>29391235
>Yeah it does. If you just tell yourself you have integrity, it's pointless.
How? What does it even mean? Why do I need someone to appreciate it?

>>29391252
Any retort?
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>>29391252
Not that anon but shrinks have told me to do the same thing and honestly doesn't work
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>>29391255
Gotta admit I laughed. Wouldn't be too far fetched.
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>>29391223
The problem is that normies got over that stage in middle school, whereas I'm 21 and still haven't asked a girl out. I'm in a bad position where the only females I interact regularly with are a part of my friend group, and if I were to strike out catastrophically with one of them, I'd potentially risk lowering my status drastically in that group.
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>>29391186
Move on to where exactly? To my next rejection? No, thank you. I'd rather not waste my time in this endless cycle until death comes to release me from my struggle. There are alternative ways to turn my existence into a bearable journey without as much suffering.
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>>29391276
>any retort
You can't tell me you think everyone is experiencing "fake happiness". Do you realise how stupid you sound? Are you that caught up in your own self loathing and hatred that you have to bring everyone down into it to because you can't stand to see others might be happy?
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>>29391131
>most kids shape themselves up before they turn 13. Robots don't, which is why they are fuck ups.
That's bullshit and you know it. They don't shape themselves up for jack shit. They were lucky enough to have been born attractive to two-parents who didn't abuse them, lived a comfortable middle-class lifestyle, were warmly received by their peers, were able to have healthy social lives, and simply followed the natural progression of the course that had been set out for them. Robots were not so lucky and were fucked to begin with.
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I asked two girls out this year.

I'm out of girls to ask.
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>>29391219
>I can not comprehend that.

Why? Even if you've never experienced it (which I seriously doubt), do you not see the issue with basing your entire worldview on the absolutely insignificantly small number of people you've encountered in life?

>I'm not.
you are
>I strive not to be.
and you fail

You are by definition part of society, you can whine and moan all you want but that's just you being autistic. It doesn't change reality.

>Not really. I know tall guys who put in less effort. Sometimes even none.

and they succeed in life on being tall alone?

>Not being a Chad.
this is just sad at this point, have you ever tried to get professional psychiatric help?

>That's possible. Just proves that you can't win in human society. So you must leave it.

>leave it

How?

I assume you're not subsistence farming out in the wilds somewhere, so you definitely haven't left society.

>If you ignore the truth

What "truth"?

> or occupy your mind with something to not think about the bad things, then your happiness is fake.

What the fuck?

So you're saying that unless you are in a complete state of total ecstasy with literally zero traces of ANY negative thoughts in your mind, your happiness is fake?

I'm pretty sure that achieving a state like that is impossible without lots of drugs. You're so deluded it's genuine making me sad.
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>>29391288
>There are alternative ways to turn my existence into a bearable journey without as much suffering.

AKA Sitting on 4chan for the rest of my miserable existence.
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>>29391302
It's easy. If you are ignoring truth to feel happy, then you aren't really genuinely happy. It's not rocket science.
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>>29391132
>willingly deluding yourself into believing things that aren't true and ignoring the ugly, hard facts of life just to be able to live a "happy" existence like everyone else isn't trading your integrity
lol
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>>29391329
>ignoring truth to feel happy, then you aren't really genuinely happy
I can't comprehend this.
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>>29391329
the fuck are you talking about originalm8?
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>>29391329
So does "true" happiness even exist then? Surely there is some element of truth in everyone's mind that might make them sad for whatever reason that they must ignore at times to feel happy. No one is "completely" happy, there are always negative elements but sane people don't focus on them.
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>>29385630
>You took a chance, yeah, woo!
>It doesn't matter she recoiled in disgust and laughed, least you tried, bro!
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>>29391305
I've seen the kids of drugs fiends unass themselves, because they didn't want to be like their parents.

I've seen poor black kids game the system, and come out on top.

Don't tell it can't be done. Its okay to be a fuck up anon, its not okay to make excuses.
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>>29391276
Because it's not something that affects how you see yourself
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>>29385630
Tetsy yetsee Yuma
Yaba yama yuu
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>>29391373
Well, yeah? Just because you're too emotionally weak to handle rejection and are resigned to failure doesn't make him wrong.
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>>29391223
>>29391228
>>29391255
It's very interesting how you normies take self-confidence for granted and rationalize my emotions using mere assumptions to keep your worldview simplified. In the end, you will never understand me because all of you have hopes, but fail to comprehend that there are people who will NEVER find a person who truly cares about them and accept them for what they really are.
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>>29391288
First stop being a fag. Then talk to girls. An easy 2 step system.

You're not deep. You're just an angst filled 15 year old girl apparently
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>>29386002
>i would sell my entire family for a chance to get to eat a female ass like that

Prostitutes ain't that expensive desu.
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>>29391329
Please, please, tell me you're a master troll.
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>>29391311
>Why?
If someone wants me to succeed they are retarded. They are creating competition for themselves.

>and you fail
But I will do it.

>and they succeed in life on being tall alone?
Not but when I see guys who aren't tall they don't succeed. The tall men have advantages.

>this is just sad at this point, have you ever tried to get professional psychiatric help?
Despite saying this many times before. No I haven't and I won't.

>How?
Leave somewhere to live in the woods without any contact with humans.

>I'm pretty sure that achieving a state like that is impossible without lots of drugs. You're so deluded it's genuine making me sad.
Then it's not real.
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I don't understand why you would just ask a random girl out on a date unless she's a literal 10/10. I usually only take interest in girls who I am friends with first.
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>>29391310
What? There are literally dozens of single girls
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>>29391328
I'd rather shitpost on 4chan and smile from time to time than get rejected a million times.
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I hate when people say complaining is a bad thing. Because of itself it's not. Sometimes you need to vent. I talk about my issues with other people and sometimes i get out of it having more understanding.

I don't understand why it's such a big deal for some people if other people want to vent about their problems. It's not unmanly to complain. Get your stupid macho attitude out of there. Males have the highest rate of suicide and it's partly because we can't express ourselves unless it's a macho-approved emotion.
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>>29391401
>"sorry i have a boyfriend"
>lose a part of my soul

Have you ever thought that maybe you are overemotional?
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well when you've spent your whole life jerking off and playing vidya it is really hard to take a step in the right direction
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>>29391329
"Happiness" is just a chemical cascade in your brain that's triggered by stimuli. How exactly can it be "fake"?
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>>29391398
Chad never gets rejected.
Does that imply he's too weak to handle it or did he just win the genetic lotto?
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>>29391401
>NEVER find a person who truly cares about them and accept them for what they really are.
People won't accept you because you're a lazy cunt who's unemployed, unhealthy, disgusting life style habits, no motivation to succeed, or do anything different in life besides sit on 4chan.

It's no surprise or wonder no one loves you for you who you are. You're a waste of space.
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>>29391401
So become worth loving. What's the problem?
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>>29391369
No it doesn't.

>there are always negative elements but sane people don't focus on them.
So it's sane to ignore reality?

>>29391387
What the fuck?

>>29391421
No. I am 100% serious.
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>>29391448
You're so obsessed with men that you come off as gay
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>>29391444
That's edgy as fuck.
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does it even matters now?
being a kv for so long made me uncapable of bonding, unless it's a clingy unhealthy obssession
it was a bigger deal than I thought it would be
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>>29390964
You don't have to be loaded to be used as a beta provider for the rest of your life
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>>29391469
This. Probably secretly wants a big muscular "chad" to fuck him.
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>>29391429
I don't know where to meet them. My work is all dudes, and I don't have any friends or social life.
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>>29391483
That myth doesn't even make sense since there are better looking richer single guys looking to settle down. Betas don't suddenly rise from the bottom of the barrel at 30. Sorry man. It's all bullshit. You might have to actually put in effort
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>>29391451
No one loves him because he's ugly. You really are retarded, aren't you?
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>>29391431
>then get rejected a million times
Ever thought you might be the problem champ?
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>>29391494
Leave your moms basement
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>>29391424
>If someone wants me to succeed they are retarded. They are creating competition for themselves.
What the fuck man?
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>>29391494
just go to the bar, bruh. ask women who are out on the street (just walk up and talk to them), and remember to just be yourself :)
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5'11 - 6'2 tall, attractive face, decent intellect = Chad

Better looking --> easier life

Anyone who denies this is delusional.
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>>29391476
iktf
>human turned alien
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>>29391424
>They are creating competition for themselves.

That really isn't how society works. There are lots of people and lots of places and lots of things, unless you're trying to ask out the same girl or get the same job other succeeding isn't "competition".

>But I will do it.

How?

Like I said, I don't see you as the type to go out and farm the land to survive in the wilderness. Living in a basement doesn't remove you from society, you're just a worthless part of it.

>Not but when I see guys who aren't tall they don't succeed.

What about all of the guys who aren't tall and do succeed though?

>Leave somewhere to live in the woods without any contact with humans.

But you won't actually do this though.

>Then it's not real.

So happiness doesn't exist now? Then what is it that makes all those people with successful lives so exited to exist?
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Women don't want to I'm so happy
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>>29391511
He already leaves his basement for work, you retarded nigger loving faggot.
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>>29391424
>If someone wants me to succeed they are retarded. They are creating competition for themselves.
No they're not. You're not competition to anyone because you're a deluded angst lord who wastes his day away on 4chan fighting against the "chad" conspiracy.
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>>29391511
Where should I go? I actually live at my dads.. I have a good job, I dress fairly well, I just... don't know where to meet people.

>>29391520
topkek

I did ask a few girls out this year, but, got shot down. I need to at least be able to chat them up first... I just don't know where to find them.
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>>29391494
>Bars
>Dating sites
>Offline meets
>Hacker spaces
>Dancing/cooking lessons

There, just so you have something to work with.
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>>29385630

if i tried that i would get accused of rape and possibly arrested.
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>>29391437
Did you even read the thread?

It's got nothing to do with "complaining", he's just saying that because some people were born luckier than him there's absolutely no point in him trying to improve his life whatsoever.
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>>29391496
>Betas don't suddenly rise from the bottom of the barrel at 30
of course they don't that's why they end up either killing themselves or latch onto some disgusting promiscuous woman who uses him for some of his money while still getting with chad on the side.

I wasn't ever saying that betas ever had a shot; they don't. What I'm saying is that their ONLY shot at getting attention from a woman, and it's a long one, is to get used for their money.
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>>29391503
I AM THE PROBLEM CHAMP.

Where did I ever say it's the fault of others? I know that I am pathetic, but you don't understand that there is no way for me to do something about it.
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>>29391494
First go join some sort of adult recreation club. Shit like fitness classes, book clubs, board game clubs, recreational sports leagues or whatever the hell you're interested in. There's meet up groups for everything.

Don't be Mr. Autistic when you go there and make some friends.

By chance, you'll likely meet some also single men, and then ask them if they want to go out to a bar to try to pick up some women.
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>>29391173
yeah, I bet all of their girlfriends really hate their personalities!
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5'11 - 6'2 tall, attractive face, non-retarded = Chad

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect#Role_of_attractiveness
Better looking --> easier life

Anyone who denies this is delusional.
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>>29391532
Do you enjoy acting like a taskmaster?
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>>29391458
>So it's sane to ignore reality?

Not letting something affect your emotional state =/= ignoring it

I'm fully aware that there are millions starving as we speak and that ISIS is probably executing some children, but that doesn't mean I'm weeping in mourning does it?
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>>29391424
>If someone wants me to succeed they are retarded. They are creating competition for themselves.
No one is trying to beat you. Besides, it's not as if you're succeeding anyway. You're deluded.

>But I will do it.
No you won't.

>Leave somewhere to live in the woods without any contact with humans.
No you won't.
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Why can't I just get surgery to remove my amygdala or lessen its activity? Why is there no medication that can effectively do this?

A fucking pea sized section of my brain is acting like a faggot so now I have to suffer the consequences because it thinks I'm still living in the god damn ice ages and every man is out to kill me for meat while I simultaneously must watch my back for a wooly mammoth mauling.

Fuck you amygdala. You're the shit tier part of the brain and evolution has failed me by not taming you.
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>>29391472
What is happiness then?

I'm not trying to be like "bruh happiness isn't real", just because it''s a chemical process doesn't make it any less real or vital to the human experience.
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>>29391545
So go to the bar and talk to people
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5'11 - 6'2 tall, attractive face, non-retarded = Chad

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect#Role_of_attractiveness
Better looking --> easier life

Anyone who denies this is delusional.

oops did I post this already? Well its alright since it apparently isn't obvious to normies.
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>>29391571
>there is no way for me to do something about it
Yes there is. Give me a logical thought out reason of what's physically stopping you from bettering yourself.
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>>29385630

If you're ugly and you so much as say hi to a girl it's sexual harassment.
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>>29391564
Or they could put in effort and be normal
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>>29391514
Easy. If they help other guys get better then the other guys are likely to take their girlfriends, jobs, etc. In general to compete with them.

>>29391532
>There are lots of people and lots of places and lots of things, unless you're trying to ask out the same girl or get the same job other succeeding isn't "competition".
People usually ask out women in their social circles. Also jobs are often gotten through nepotism so that's in fact how it works.

>Like I said, I don't see you as the type to go out and farm the land to survive in the wilderness.
I'm not planning to survive. Not long term for sure.

>What about all of the guys who aren't tall and do succeed though?
They had to put in much more effort.

>But you won't actually do this though.
Could you maybe lend me that magic oracle of yours for a day?

>So happiness doesn't exist now? Then what is it that makes all those people with successful lives so exited to exist?
Ignoring unpleasant truths.

>>29391544
But if I improved then I could be competition.
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>>29391571
Why is there no way you can fix it?
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>>29385630
you don't understand OP
I procrastinate literally every fucking thing in my life
My life is resumed in "I'll do it tomorrow"
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>>29391612
WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH CHADS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>29391582
>I'm fully aware that there are millions starving as we speak and that ISIS is probably executing some children, but that doesn't mean I'm weeping in mourning does it?
So you're ignoring the truth.

>>29391584
>No one is trying to beat you. Besides, it's not as if you're succeeding anyway. You're deluded.
You're retarded.

Also as for the rest of your post. Whatever you think.

>>29391606
I don't know what it is.
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>>29391630
Ironic because saying you don't want others to improve so you can have a statistically insignificant better chance says a lot of unattractive things about you.
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>>29391612
Sure, but "Not attractive" doesn't equals "Doomed"
Not attractive ---> Try Harder
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>>29391630
>But if I improved then I could be competition
But you won't because you're too busy wasting your life away on 4chan dreaming of grandeur.
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>>29385630
Nope
I don't need to be reminded of how ugly I am
Fuck you btw
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>>29391630
>Ignoring unpleasant truths.

Then why isn't that happiness?

You're the only one who has claimed that "ignoring truths to be happy isn't real happiness", that is a premise that you alone have come up with and are basing your views off. No one else in the world thinks like that, everyone else is sane and understands that by the nature of human happiness it can exist regardless of other negative truths that exist.

Out of curiosity, if you believe that there is no such thing as "true happiness" because tjhere is always some negative truth to be thought of, is there "true sadness"? Because surely by your logic there is no such thing as sadness, as no matter what's making you sad you can always think of some positive truth about reality to stop you from being sad.
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>>29391623
>put in effort and be normal
Does being gainfully employed not signify effort?

Let's be real for a second; betas are betas, not because of effort or for lack of trying. It's because they're not attractive. I know how much you'd like to say it's not true, but looks do matter a whole hell of a lot. Are looks everything? No. However, you need to meet at least a minimal threshold for someone to be able to "like you for you" and not because they can use you to bankroll a night on the town with Chad.
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>>29391630
I think you're quite possibly the most unstable person I've met on 4chan.
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>>29391666
I don't give a shit if what I am saying means I get considered unattractive. Truth is more important.

>>29391675
Kek. How about disproving my point?
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>>29391660
>So you're ignoring the truth.

How am I ignoring it? I'm fully aware of it? I have opinions on it? I just don't let it effect me emotionally because I'm not autistic.
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>>29391579
But what kind of idiot sees this and says "they have an easier life so in going to give up and not try"? That's being a baby.
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>disturbed fuck
>stills gets 9/10 gf
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>>29391608
>the "just go to the bar" meme

Not even normies do this shit. Not even most chads do this shit. You go to bars with friends, not to creepily hit on some chick who already arrived with a group of other guys and girls she knows well.

Club is different and works, but anybody who goes to clubs is a degenerate and guaranteed whore, so yeah no thanks.
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>>29391670
>Not attractive ---> Try Harder
Indeed, and what if I'm so undesirable that the amount of effort it would take to make me date-able/fuckable isnt enough to motivate me to try? How can I feel motivated when its so much effort?

I'm not even fat, but I'm a manlet, kv, friendless emotionally-dulled, Asperges NEET. Seriously
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>>29385630

while this advice is essentially positive and helpful, the reality is that human pecking order tends to naturally stratify based on aesthetics, or sexual market value.

This is because certain attributes open up different opportunities in life, such that an attractive, fit male will likely be more involved in sports and other social ventures as compared with a small, weak, less attractive male who is more likely to be interested in geek culture and video games.

The social circle or social strata that one naturally falls into will affect perceptions, lifestyle, expectations, etc. These form the criteria for compatibility, and therefore results in people from the same strata being most compatible with each other, on average; i.e., people tend to befriend and date/marry from their own genetic strata.

So while any of us could talk to the girl in OP's pic, the fact that she is part of a higher strata (by virtue of looks alone, in addition to whatever other attributes) stacks the deck against the beta/omega male. It's somewhat like interviewing at a software company with no experience in programming or computer science. Open to shame and ridicule.
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>>29391617
That has literally never happened.
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>>29391617
This.
It's creepy when you do it, but endearing when Chad does it.
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>>29391696

There we go again with the alpha/beta obsession

You do know that you can exist out of that meme right?
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>>29391709
>disproving my point
Something you've been saying for hours on end. How can I disprove something if you have't achieved it? You're a loser with mental illnesses and you have a gay fetish for chads. You talk about "competing" with others but you're not doing anything notable in your life. You talk about running away to live in the forest but you'll never do it.
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>>29391696
No, most people have jobs
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>>29391690
How can you excuse it from yourself if you are ignoring the truth on purpose?

Also there is no sadness or happiness. There is only truth.

>>29391704
Thanks.
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>>29391724
Jake Gyllenahaal is my male waifu though. I'd go gay as fuck for him. He's one of the most attractive men I've ever seen.
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>>29391725
See? If you put in as much effort with yourself and women as you do with making excuses, you'd have a nice gf by now.

Also tons of people meet at bars.
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>>29391469
You didn't answer the question, dude.
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>>29391615
Okay. I regularily take care of my body, I live healthily, I am studying at a good university, I have a nice sense for style and fashion, BUT MAGICALLY, after asking out more than 50 girls, I haven't gotten anything other than creepy reactions, threats and immediate rejections with or without excuses.

Oh GEE, what could possibly be the reason? MAYBE my absolutely disgusting face? MAYBE my inability to look confident? MAYBE my body size?

WHO fucking knows, but here you are getting a kick out of reminding us losers of our pathetic existence.
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>>29391775
>50 girls
How did you ask out these girls? Were they strangers? Cold pick ups rarely work out and you're a fool to think otherwise. PUA's are tossers and not anyone to look up to.
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>it's yet ANOTHER "just go up to her and say hi" episode (produced, scripted, and directed by Normies Inc.)
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>>29391714
>I just don't let it effect me emotionally because I'm not autistic.
That's an interesting point. It really is.

>>29391747
>you're not doing anything notable in your life
What would you consider notable? To have hobbies? University? Job? Because I do all of these things.
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>>29391615
Not him, but I'll repost this because I really do want to feel motivated. I just cant:

>Not attractive ---> Try Harder
Indeed, and what if I'm so undesirable that the amount of effort it would take to make me date-able/fuckable is too much to motivate me to try? How can I feel motivated when its so much effort?

I'm not even fat, but I'm a manlet, kv, friendless emotionally-dulled, Asperges NEET. Seriously
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>>29391704
>I think you're quite possibly the most unstable person I've met on 4chan.
There's the pedophile who always posts images of Cardcaptor Sakura, and collects underage girls panties (appears in most pedo threads). That middle age guy who is obsessed with "wan wans", probably a dogfucker.

There's tough competition on /r9k/.
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>>29391772
What question?? You're just obsessed with men
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>>29391808
>its so much effort
And therein lies your problem. You're too fucking lazy.
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>>29391741
Sure, and you'll still be below literally everything else.

>>29391754
Alright, let me be a little more specific. I went to college, graduated, went through shitloads of painful interviews, got hired at a multinational, and according to a bunch of shitty statistics, make quite a bit more than the average person my age. Are you saying that took no effort whatsoever?
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>>29391617

All you gotta do is smile bro. Trust me. Girls like it when you smile. It's a sign of confidence.
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>>29391818
>gyeheheh got eem
You're so legion, Anonymous.
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>>29391728
I'm not doing well for myself too
shitskinned, awkward, mocked
normies forced me to kiss a girl, so I'm not kv
but I'm fucked anyway
you just gotta realize no one is going to make your life change if not yourself
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>>29391766
yeah he's pretty, but Chris Hemsworth is prettier
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>>29391799
Oh yes, you pro. Please teach me your ways, mysterious r9k browser. Who other than a person like you could possibly know the ways of getting any sort of friends.

Please, just fuck off. Your advice is nothing other than generic shit I can find in any girls magazine or youtube video made for normies like you.
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>>29391812
I never come here so I wouldn't know. This guy is straight up bonkers though
>happiness isn't real
>the only thing that is real is truth
>chads have an easy life
>my genetic lottery is bad
>why bother
>i'm going to run off and live in the foreset and die
>my friends are my enemies
>my friends will only help me for ulterior motive
>if i try to help myself i am giving into societal pressures
>i am competition now to friends because i am trying to better myself
You can't make this shit up.
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>>29391834
>you'll still be below literally everything else.
You'll be above the robots in this thread :^)
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>>29391867
>for normies like you
You keep forgetting that you're just as normal and average and boring as everyone else friend. You're not special. Stop thinking that you are.
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>>29391893
normie definition "a functional member of society without major issues"
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>>29391893
>implying abnormal people dont exist
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>>29391935
You're functioning in society. You're normal.
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>>29391935
>normie definition "a functional member of society without major issues"
I agree with this. This should be the definition of a normie. We need to be more consistent on what a "normie" is.
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I'm gonna be 100% honest with you okay. You're all a bunch of creeps. I hate to break it to you but if you're over 20 years old and you've never had a girlfriend it's probably your fault. Face it there's no hope. Contrary to what you losers think the world is actually a pretty fair place. If you're a virgin it's probably your own fault. You're probably some kind of school shooter, creep, rapist, weirdo, pedophile, stalker, or repressed cereal killer and the girls can sense it. Girls can sense these things man. They can see the red flags. Just look in a mirror lol. No girls wants a loser. They'd rather smoke weed with an alpha like me who can take care of them. You're being screwed out of that normal human experience and no one cares. Go kill yourself. No one will cry or miss you. You probably won't even get an obituary. Go cry. You're creepy, you make women feel uncomfortable, do the world a favor okay.

tl;dr You're screwed. No amount of intelligence, dedication, or hard work can salvage it. You'll never even land a fat ugly chick. It's called genetics which you don't have. Stop creeping on our women.
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>>29391771
I've had girlfriends but I've met them through school or work, or they were a friend of a friend type of thing.

I live in a city and absolutely nobody shows up to bars by themselves. You go with friends or you don't go at all. This isn't the movies. The "hot spot" bars are where the younger women are, and not once have I seen one by themselves. They are always accompanied by either a boyfriend, multiple friends, or multiple friends AND a romantic interest she already knows.

In fact I've almost never seen a guy alone at these bars either, because anybody with a thread of social sense knows it's a stupid move which won't work and will most likely come off as creepy.

The only bars in which people regularly show up alone are the ones in a nice, smaller-sized restaurant where the bar is usually in a separate area than the dining area. I know this because I used to bus at a lot of these restaurants during school. And guess what, all the people who come alone to these kind of bars are 45+ year old creepy aging men and gross women also on the wrong side of 40 who are clearly ex stacy whores and are only there because they know these creeps are the only men who will give them attention anymore. They never leave with them, they just come to lap up the attention. And they aren't hot MILFs, they're picturesque used up whores.
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>>29391977
>Stop creeping on our women.
Done, but thanks for the suggestion.

>it's probably your fault
Just like the guy in your pic chose his beautiful bone structure. Fuck off faggot
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>>29391961
I'm not the guy you were replying to at >>29391893
but no I'm not
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>>29391977
hey man just wondering where you got my pics from?
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>>29391598
Because life isn't fair B)
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>>29391974
I know, it even fits failed normies "functional member of society WITH minor/major issues"
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>>29391977
there's no point in living if you don't look like this guy
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>>29392025
You are. You're not at all special. You're average, if anything below average, and you're boring, just like the rest of us. You might want to fit into the /r9k/ special "robot" club, but you're all just boring normal people. No matter how special you think you are.

There was even a face rate thread earlier today and literally 99% of the people in there were average normal people. People you'd just walk past casually in real life.
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>>29388384
>rationally approaching the problem of anxiety is "just don't feel anxiety bro"
I pity you.
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How does it feel knowing you're a virgin and everybody hates you just for existing. Everyone thinks you're ugly and creepy based entirely on your genetics and there's nothing you can do about it except play video games and jack off to anime. How does it feel when we tell you that it's all your fault even though we know it isn't? What are you gonna do about it? What do you have to live for? It's never going to get any better. There's no "girl out there" waiting to cross paths with you. That's some Hollywood shit. That's not reality. You're living in La La Land. Get real. You have nothing to live for. All your dreams are unrealistic and delusional and creepy. You're a creep. Do the world a favor. It's never going to get better.
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>>29392072
He worked hard to get that body. Chiseled abs and muscular arms don't just appear out of nowhere.
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>>29391977
>cereal killer
spotted the meme
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>>29392076
>There was even a face rate thread
stopped reading there
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>>29392097
and he definitely worked hard for that face. Not being fat sure takes a huge amount of effort.
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>>29392107
I know you read the rest of it you pathetic beta.
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>>29392076
>implying the people who post in that thread aren't just failed normies looking for attention
>implying any actual robot would even participate in those faggotfest threads let alone post their picture there

That thread is not an accurate portrayal of real robots.
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>>29392097
And if he didn't have good facial bone structure he wouldn't look half as good.
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>>29392097
His body is pretty average.
It's the hairline, hair and facial aesthetics(and probably height) that make him stand out.
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>>29392121
>not being fat sure takes a huge amount of effort
It can take a fair bit of will power to maintain your diet sure. I know you're shit posting, but that's what happens when you have good discipline.
>>29392138
He does though, so why even bring it up. What a shame for you though chad lover.
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>>29392076
Stop with that "cold truth" "I know everything" bullshit
I'm not normal, yes I have 2 arms 2 legs 1 mind, but I don't have the drive and the will to succeed that most people have
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>>29392127
we got mr.psychic over here
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>>29391977
>You're probably some kind of school shooter, creep, rapist, weirdo, pedophile, stalker, or repressed cereal killer
I'm a pyromaniac so I guess I'm ok
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>>29391977
guaranteed (You)s everytime
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>>29392158
>i'm not normal
You are though. I know you like feeling that you're a part of a secret club on 4chan, but the truth is, you're not any different to the rest of us.
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>>29392158
Most people don't have any drive, which is why average is the average.

You are not special.
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>>29392152
These guys put in some hard work too. And of course they're as attractive as him right. At least almost right?
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>>29392144
>average
Maybe in the fitness world. Definitely better than anyone in this thread though.
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>>29392193
So instead of being an abnormal lazy piece of shit I'm a normal lazy piece of shit?
Wow, that is some life changing truth, huh?
fuck off
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>>29391977
>I hate to break it to you but if you're over 20 years old and you've never had a girlfriend it's probably your fault. Face it there's no hope.

You just slayed me, man.
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>>29392221
remember to just BEE urself. personality is all that matters.
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>>29392221
When you have shit dress sense, a bad haircut, it's not surprising you'd still look kind of average. These guys all have incredibly attractive bodies and you'd be a fool to think these guys would get turned down.
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>>29391977
>I hate to break it to you but if you're over 20 years old and you've never had a girlfriend it's probably your fault. Face it there's no hope.
I'm 18, suck my dick
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>>29392277
You're still going through puberty, hopefully you'll break out of the "reee i hate normies" phase eventually. You definitely don't want to be stuck here forever.
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>>29392221
all the guys from the bottom row are chad material honestly
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>>29392224
It's the body of a casual gym goer.
Mine is similar, maybe even slightly buffer. It means nothing though.
I'm 26 and a virgin. My face isn't even ugly.
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>>29392269
>you'd be a fool to think these guys would get turned down
lol
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>>29392269
>These guys all have incredibly attractive bodies
women want the whole package
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>>29392316
Memes are not an argument anon.
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>>29392253
>be yourself
I take it this is the catch phrase that /r9k/ has latched on to?

>"hehe normies amirite xD, they're all the damn same"
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>>29392300
This hivemind is extremely powerful
I find myself constantly having jealous and bitter thoughts when any of my "friends" (they nicknamed me, so idk if I should call them that) talk about girls they fucked/kissed
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>>29392306
>bottom left
>chad in any way shape or form
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>>29392316
>>29392331
Took the words right out of my mouth. A picture created by some random shit poster on /fit/ doesn't qualify as a valid argument. Just goes to show you faggots will believe anything as long as it continues to drive your self worth down.
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>>29392306
>>29392269
Yeah this guy gets plenty of pussy amIrite??
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>>29392351
Look at that fucking bod dude
This is not something you achieve in 2 weeks
That guy has drive, lots of it
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>>29392346
Who gives a shit. I was 17 when I lost my virginity. That's not a lot younger than yourself. There are a lot of people in here who have been here for so long that the ideas and thoughts are so reinforced in their heads that they don't want to change. They refuse to see that being a functioning member of society can be a good, positive and healthy experience.

Anon, without sounding preachy, I emplore you to rethink your decision to hang around on this board. It's toxic as hell and you'll become a waste of space like a lot of the posters on here. You'll become a hateful, boring cynic.
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>>29392374
>That guy has drive, lots of it
and he gets zero pussy, like most robots. LITERALLY NO POINT IN TRYING
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>>29392368
Who knows? He's some random guy. I wouldn't like to make assumptions like you are right now.
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>>29391977
this pasta always induces maximum keks

>>29391872
You'll be just barely above societal dropouts, but still below everyone else.
Wow, so rewarding. So instead of being dogshit, I'll be the fly shit that's on that dogshit.
Honestly, what's the point?
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>>29392402
>a functioning member of society
What does this have to do with anything?
I've been a functioning member of society my whole life, that doesn't mean I get laid. Never have.
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>>29392414
>and he gets zero pussy
And how do you know?
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>>29392432
You're 18. You have plenty of time to lose your virginity. I don't see why everyone on 4chan puts sex on such a pedestal. It's not that big of a deal.

It's a normal part of the average couples life.
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>>29392429
>what's the point?
Getting laid and meeting new people is fun. You need to understand that you negative outlook on socializing is due to you being a genetic dead end, not everyone shares the same perspective.
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>>29392402
I'm already a hateful, boring cynic
But I really can't stand people blaming society
Victimism literally disgusts me, but I still get bitter, because I was a turboautist my whole life, and now that I have an increased self-awareness, my past fuckups still hold me back
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>>29392442
He doesn't. It's the 4chan way to be as cynical and negative as possible. It's quite possible everyone in that photo has been laid. But I forgot having sex is the pinnacle of human achievement on this website.
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>>29392442
I challenge you to send the pic >>29392368 to 100 of your single female facebook friends and ask if they'd date or fuck him. I'll be impressed if a single one of them says yes.
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>>29392454
I'm not that guy you talked to. I'm 26.
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>>29392488
You're not trying hard enough. Besides, if you're that desperate, go to a brothel. I went to one earlier this year. It wasn't so bad. I only went because I hadn't had sex in years though.
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>>29392454
It is a big deal when every conversation is just an excuse for normies to brag about who they fucked/kissed/groped
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>>29392442

if you were a girl would you have sex with that?
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>>29392481
Don't think about the past. The future is really all that matters anyway. The past is just that. It doesn't exist anymore.
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>>29392512
>go to a brothel. I went to one earlier this year. It wasn't so bad. I only went because I hadn't had sex in years
and you're trying to give us Chadvice? top kek
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>>29392484
Thats not how you go about things anon. Are you autistic?

>>29392524
I am not a woman, and i have no desire to be a little girl, so i wouldn't know.
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>>29392484
>i'm so desperate to prove my point let me create a pathetic challenge over it
Embarrassing.
>>29392524
Why would you know what a girl wants virgin lips?
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>>29392530
You don't understand
I fucked up my reputation when I was stupid
I got a terrible nickname
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>>29392479
>you negative outlook on socializing is due to you being a genetic dead end
>genetic dead end
Okay, so how is this not admitting that for me, specifically, it's pointless?
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>>29392540
>Chadvice
Again. If you want to be taken seriously, don't talk like an autistic child. It was merely a suggestion. How dare I suggest that you try and lose your virginity? How dare you get easy access to sexual pleasures? Lots of people fuck whores at brothels. Single dads, married dads, 18 year olds, virgins in their 40s. It's pretty common.
>>
this thread:
>normies contradicting normies while trolling normies pretending to be robots

The Robot exodus is already in full swing.
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>>29392572
>a terrible nickname
OH NOW HOW WILL I EVER SURVIVE.

Fucking harden up princess. I got bullied for almost entire schooling years and I got a terrible nickname for a mark I have on my body. People grow out of that shit. They forget and you lose touch with those dickheads too.
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ROBOT RIOT NOW! LET'S SHOW THESE NORMIES HOW HELPLESS WE ARE WITH OUR SELF HATRED. IT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY'LL FUCK OFF
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>>29392579
You have no desire to try, so its pointless to you. Not everyone shares the same perspective.

Me calling you a genetic dead is just an expression. Not that i would advocate genetic determinism.

>>29392606
>normies raaaaaa Xddd
Nice memes faggot.
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>>29392595
>I hadn't had sex in years
>gives advice on /r9k/
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>>29392632
A reaction picture and quoting my text isn't a response anon. It's just recycled shitposting that's been done over and over. Yawn.
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>>29392628
All of my so called "friends" use that nickname on me
It's eyebrow raising and makes people laugh at me
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Why do normies fight with tooth and nail to prove Chad doesn't exist?
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>>29392631
>implying this shitstain of a thread deserves more than faded memes
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>>29392661
Who gives a fuck? Are you such a pussy that you can't handle banter among your own friends. That is one of the key points of having friends. The fact that you can insult each other and call each other names all the time.

My sister and I brutally insult each other and it's all in jest. So do my friends and I. We don't give a fuck because it's a joke you sensitive pansy cunt.
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>>29392682
Robots need to be reminded of their lot in life.

Its the only thing keeping frogposters and feelfaggots in line.
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>>29392652
Not getting sex for years until you do it at a brothel is fucking pathetic according to most normies. It's laughable to them
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>>29392682
It really degraded in quality when that other anon started spamming "you're a gay Chad lover". It encouraged more people to stop arguing "seriously" and only spam memes from both sides.
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>>29392704
you wouldn't understand
that's why you're a normie
it's not something like "dickhead" or "dick sucking lips"
it's a lot shittier than that
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>>29392735
>Words hurt me *sob*

Harden up pussy.
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Here's the truth. It really doesn't matter what you say or do. Nothing can redeem yourself once they decide you "look" like a creep. Once they decide you're genetic trash. Your actions mean nothing in this life. Your value was determined long before you were born by factors you had no control over.
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>>29392735
Tell me then. What's your "terrible nickname".
>>29392707
Hey, it's not like I go around telling people. Brothels aren't really frowned upon though. I told a couple of real life friends and they didn't give two shits. Most were intrigued.
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>>29392753
ok let's hang around with everybody calling you a literal piece of shit and making every girl run away from you
not a big deal, right?
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>>29392773
>genetic trash
lmao, keep blaming them genetics tho
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>>29392753
The only pussy I harden is your mom's xD
mabe I'm not so beta afterall
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>>29392789
I love how /r9k/ users exaggerate. As if they're the only poor soul to ever experience any kind of hardship. And that women are the only thing you should try and achieve in life. Get a grip cunt.
>>29392805
Pussies don't get hard anon. They're soft, flappy and wet.
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>>29391834
You did one thing. Most people get jobs AND work on not being shitty people
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>>29392316
THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES
THEY CANNOT MAKE THE JUDGEMENT CALL
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>>29392822
THEN TELL ME HOW TO IGNORE WOMEN
Because honestly, I don't know how can I ignore it when every conversation normies have is just an excuse to talk about their "successful sex lifes"
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>>29392822
>Get a grip cunt.
The only cunt I grip (with my 8inch dick) is your mom's xD
mabe I'm not so beta afterall
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>>29392789
>with everybody calling you a literal piece of shit
Why would i put up with something like that? If its between friends i don't mind, if its a stranger then somebody is getting smashed.
>and making every girl run away from you
Good thing i meet girls outside my work and school.

>not a big deal, right?
Its not
>>29392805
Pussies get wet anon, clits get a little hard. Your virginity is showing.
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>>29392866
>Why would i put up with something like that? If its between friends i don't mind, if its a stranger then somebody is getting smashed.
YOU GOT IT NOW
E V E R Y B O D Y calls me that
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>>29392843
Who are you hanging around with? There is a lot more to talk about in life than just sex. Sure the odd relationship topic might come up, but it's only in passing for more interesting topics. IE, the last time I saw my mate he talked about how he rode his motorbike through major flood waters and almost crashed. Just a funny example, but no sex involved at all.
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>>29392890
we talk about weed mostly
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>>29392827
I don't think I'm a shitty person.
My entire existence is just going to work and then coming home and browsing here/playing computer games. I don't think that's being a shitty person, but whatever.
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>>29392913
>we talk about weed mostly
Are you hanging around some "420 blaze it" faggots? That's another boring topic. How can you just talk about weed? It's not like there's much to discuss.
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>>29392880
What do they call you? Why are you putting up with it?
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>>29392929
we talk about everything honestly, but sex is always there
normies brag too much
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>>29392927
>browsing here/playing computer games
There's your problem. This place is toxic as hell. I know people will deny it, but you can't deny that after years of using this same website every single day of your life that it changes your personality and shapes you as a person. Besides, playing video games every single day isn't healthy either. Get some other hobbies on top of that. Something more productive and challenging. Games are babby tier.
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>>29392950
just think of the shittiest thing you could call a human being
I put up with it because I can't beat everybody honestly
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>>29392952
>normies brag to much
No they don't. You're just hanging out with shitty people.
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>>29392984
A cunt? I mean, it's pretty common place in Australia where I live but it's apparently pretty offensive overseas. Whatever the word is, let them have their fun. If you get angry and react over it they'll keep saying it. Take it on the chin like an adult and they'll realise it doesn't mean shit to you and slowly stop saying it.
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>>29393005
they'll call me anyway
it literally took my name's place
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>>29393041
Be honest here, why do you still hand around those people?
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>>29393041
what word is it?
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>>29393065
they are not much different from everybody else
they didn't create the nickname for me, it was an asshole at junior hs, they just use it like everybody else
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>>29393108
What word is it you fucking cunt faggot nigger bitch
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