Red pill me on INFP's
infp speaking
basically we're supposed to be intelluctual and creative or something but also our intellect and creativity means nothing in this world so we dwell on that and get depressed and think way too much to the point where we get sick
or at least me
i thought too much last night and puked 8 times.
you can only survive being infp if you're good looking
don't expect to get many replies infps are the biggest lurkers
>>29021865
Not true, I have both and instead being attractive made me hate everyone who was attracted to me because it was all shallow. It is better than otherwise, since it can appear to be less lonely at times, but people don't like you for being you, they just like you for your pleasant exterior.
People, including us, are all very shitty.
>>29021826
inf* are narcissists
>>29021910
you're ugly kid face it
>>29021932
It would take more than one random guy on the internet to change my mind about something I've had repeatedly validated, sorry.
It's objectively the worst personality type.
We feel alot more than the average person.
We tend to think alot, live inside our minds.
But we're nice folk and mean well.
>>29021973
By what measure?
being an infp can be really lonely. I find it incledibly difficult to relate to other people and not because i feel superior or special or anything like that. I don't belong anywhere in society i probabily wouldn't even get along with other infps because they'd remind me too much of myself
>>29021988
>objectively
>what measure tho
holy shit
>>29021953
lol....... sure kid
Why are there so many mbti threads all of the sudden?
OP just go to one of the other threads and ask there, there will always be someone lurking, looking to glorify or complain about their type.
>>29022004
If something is objective it can be measured and proven otherwise it is your opinion lol.
>>29022013
Its really pathetic that just mentioning appearances can get someone this asshurt. Do you have any self awareness about what you are doing right now at all? Done replying to you also faggot.
does anybody else get the sense that very few people are "real" and that everything they say and do is just a facade?
>>29022033
hahah triggered the ugly man
Not a bad personality type but ENFP is objectively happier
>>29022033
>>29021953
>>29021910
not him but i can tell you're ugly. good looking people dont get this angry on the internet.
INFPs are really good at examining their flaws and insecurities. Go ahead INFPs tell me about your flaws I know you want to.
how many of you have/suspect you have mental illnesses? what are they?
>>29022033
don't reply to me or my comment ever again
>>29021910
>being attractive made me hate everyone who was attracted to me because it was all shallow
INTJ
iktf
>F
This letter and the emphasize on its "value" is precisely what is wrong in the world today.
>>29022195
one of my bigest fears is that i'm not a particularly smart person even though lots of people tell me i am
>>29022035
I get the sense that most people have shitty personalities with traits that are unjust, toxic and increase suffering for others. I constantly analyze social dynamics and the level of interaction most people are stuck on is a combination of 5th grade politics mixed with misdirected testosterone.
Joining society is impossible for me because it would be like joining a pack of wolves and adapting animalistic behavior that I have long identified as the roots of suffering among humans.
And I wish I was born in a time where humanity has overcome this behavior.
I think that this might be the problem for most INFPs and why they can't live in a world of brutes.
>>29022264
lol same. people call me smart all the time, and I'm just a KV NEET who sits around fantasizing about dick all day.
>>29022155
Erm, what? Yes they do. Good looking people are used to people being nice to them and flip out when people online are mean to them. That's why you never see ugly kids killing themselves over cyber bullying.
>>29022404
Give yourself more credit. You are a blossoming fan fiction writer for sonic the hedgehog MLP harry potter cross over porn. It's every INFP's ultimate calling.
>>29021914
i think self indelgent is the word your looking for but yeah
>>29022548
were you molested or something?
>>29021973
it has some bad aspects to it but i think INFPs are generaly decent human beings. Even though most of them will deny that
>>29021844
Pretty much fucking this
Life is suffering
t.infp
>>29022587
Why would I be molested because INFPs like to write narutoxsasuke gender bender fan fiction?
>>29022249
you wore a cheap digital watch, fish-fur jumpers with high collars, cargo shorts and trainers in school
Tell me about your problems and I will fix it
>tfw no one to let you love them
>>29022195
Everyone i've known calls me smart and i did well on every test i've ever taken without studying once in my life, but I still dont believe i'm smart. People's minds just seem to move so much faster than mine when im talking to them.
I try to be a nice person but i always feel like a shitty friend and an asshole in general even though people still say im very nice. I wish i was nicer to my sister, but when I have the opportunity to be nice I just don't do it. Also all of my friends seem like great friends and i dont deserve them although admittedly I dont have much of a sample size and i've know all of my friends for at least 12 years now.
Living is a pain in the ass.
>>29022748
jesus anon are you me?
>>29022801
Maybe anon... maybe.odometer carosel
intp who thinks too much reporting in
>>29021826
we think we're special despite the knowledge that nobody is special
>>29022035
All day every day my guy. I try to ignore it. Like I know some people are real especially when they make a mistake or show some emotion but so many people day to day just like.... Idk they don't really do anything just like look like they're trying to look busy??? I've caught people just staring, blank face, at nothing. For minutes at a time. It freaks me out
>>29022962
I feel this applies to me but I also feel it doesn't.
Intp here, why am I such an asshole? I'm so quick to get mean and frustrated with people. My family and friends have always told me they think I think they're fucking stupid even when I don't. Idk why I'm like this. I apologize profusely but when the time comes instead of being patient I just get mean. Pls help
we should make threads like these more often seen as INPTs always highjack the other personality threads
Why have these threads become really popular lately? Either way, I switch between INFP and INTP
INFP reporting in
Am I the only one her who is as emotionally stable as a 14 year old girl on her period? It takes me nothing to go from very cheerful to moody
>>29022642
ISTP master race checking in
>>29023131
Yeah, I went from fully motivated to suicidal in like 1 hour. Now I'm in smug NEET mode.
>>29023131
Intp/j and am the same. It fucking sucks
>>29023124
People like to hear about themselves, long for companionship and understanding.
what threads do you frequent? does anybody else feel like they don't belong on 4chan but have no where else to go?
>>29023268
>what threads do you frequent?
feminine penis threads
my life revolves around it nowadays
>>29023124
I think we converted some of the skeptics and the noobies are starting to see the depth to it. MBTI is autism catnip.
>>29023195
That's because basing your personality on feelings means your state of mind is always fleeting. That's why people like ESFPs and ISFPs are always on social media trying to get likes. They need the constant validation/affirmation to keep their self esteem/feelings from wavering.
It's honestly just better to delude yourself that you are awesome all the time with affirmation incantations.
>>29023357
>It's honestly just better to delude yourself that you are awesome all the time with affirmation incantations.
tips on doing this? practicing self delusion is kinda scary
>>29022748
I don't believe any one is particularly smart to be honest Anon, all human knowledge and intellect is aggregate and insurmountably huge, Even the most talented can only focus on little bits and maybe add an idea or two into the big sea of ideas. I think us INFPs are good at presenting an image of sophistication and intellect simply because we spend more time reflecting on stuff, and at least, usually have a good ability to clock onto what people are gassing on about, so can expand ideas readily.
I know I get called smart all the time, but I certainly don't have any real answers to the shit I think about, definitely frustrating.
>>29023131
Yeah but considering where we are, I don't think it would be exceptional for this to be common, no matter what star sign personality we have.
>>29023131
I'm INFP/J and yep. My emotions overwhelm me.
>>29023268
I started on 4chan in 2008 an it's been a decent site up until 2011.
Today's YoloSwag Facebook community on all boards is almost exclusively pain and no gain at all.
Even moot left because he hated the new washed out mainstream community. Everybody knows about 4chan these days so it's indistinguish from reddit or Facebook. 4chan doesn't mold people anymore because theres is nothing that differentiates it from the mainstream.
People even misuse the word meme... It's fucking disgusting to watch...
>>29023461
Check out some videos on youtube. Tony robbins does some stuff on it. You basically stop yourself from thinking limiting beliefs that you are unknowingly brainwashing yourself with and then you brainwash yourself with new beliefs. I'm not a feeler type and I didn't really need this but I experimented with it before and it worked for me. I was flying high I felt like kanye west.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVjKrDrB9mI
>>29023461
spend a lot of time alone with no one to burst your bubble and you shall do fine
>>29021826
I'm an infp and feel pretty much alone
People won't talk to me and idk why probably because i don't talk very much to people i don't know because i'm shy. In hs i always was that kid who sits alone in the back of the class without saying anything and had trouble to find a group when needed
Honelty being an INFP isn't much fun
>>29021826
This stupid shit is no more valid than horoscopes.
Grow the fuck up you stupid snowflake.
There is your red pill.
>>29023631
calm down mate. Sure a person can't be defined purely by some letters but that doesn't mean it's comple pseudoscience. Personally i can relate to everyone who claims to be an INFP on some level so it has to mean something
>>29023131
Yup. I keep flitting between a really bitter person who judges and categorises people and is really unhappy and a really happy contented person who loves the world no matter its flaws and just wants everyone he sees to be happy.
I feel like a big part of why I haven't done much with my life is my head is constantly changing and switching between several basic modes that don't really mesh with each other. I'll spend some time in "sensitive and creative" mode and come up with some cool stories and write a few scenes but then I switch out of that too quickly into something that is insensitive so can't create or sociable and confident so I just message friends and I can't seem to wrestle my head into any one mode for very long.
Do any other INFPs get stuck in a bad place and think "I'll never get out of this way of thinking I'm fucked" then end up in a good place and think "Wow I don't get why I'm not always this happy it's so easy how could I ever lose this maybe I'll finally do something with my life"?
>>29023268
Yeah I always feel like I really shouldn't be here but can't find anywhere else where I can connect with people, even though I know I don't really connect with people here either.
>>29023668
It's complete and utter pseudoscience.
This thread is pure narcissistic naval gazing.
Grow up.
>>29023711
4chan is not good for us. In fact I don't think it's good for any one. My mood significantly worsens when I use this site, the problem is it's so fucking addictive.
>>29023738
go away retard your opinion is pseudo science
>>29023738
>Getting this mad.
I think you've got some problems of your own, m8.
Maybe you should find an INFP to talk things through with you. They're good at that you know.
I don't know about other infps but I often get told I'm a "nice and likable" person yet when it comes down to it I find it impossible to keep a friend. Like I can connect with other people but then they just move on to someone else and I'm left to rationalise their behaviour by criticising myself e.g. the common factor in all these situations is myself. I think I've become more cynical as a result but when someone gives me the time of day I forget that they'll probably move on to someone else and give myself false hope that I might actually make a decent friend only to be inevitably abandoned and for the cycle to repeat itself.
It feels like I'm constantly bashing my head against a brick wall but I can't help it.
Also I agree with the narcissist thing.
Real INTP here. Redditors like to pretend they're INTP, but their normie stench is too strong.
>>29023752
iktf. I try going to other sites but the communities are so boring or the traffic so slow that they become dull quickly.
It's a shame. Like you I always feel worse for being here but don't know where else to go. There's a lot of bitter, heartless people on this site and it's easy for that to rub off on us.
>>29023788
>>29023792
Niggas your personality type is ignorant snowflake.
I'm an infp too are you guys sometimes feel emotionless ?
>>29023668
It's literally nothing more than pseudoscience. The test was pulled out of some asses as a way of discerning who was an effective worker in the mid 20th century, by people with no qualifications that would make them worthy of creating such a test.
>>29023854
I don't think you know who the special snowflake is here.
So does anyone else feel they connect best with people through things like books, shows and games? Like, someone having similar taste to you or loving the media that you love is a huge part of what draws you to them?
reporting in..
what type of girls do you guys do you build connections with the best?
i love INTP girls because their logic can ground my racing thoughts, but i feel like im too needy and that pushes them away eventually
>that feel when i bpd'ed out one night and blocked my soul mate on facebook and she dumped me and i didnt even try to recover it
>>29023896
Yeah, keep believing in meme science you gullible fuckhead. Smh.
>>29023918
it's literaly the only way i can connect with people
Are there any infps out there with bpd? i would be suprised if a lot of us had it
Who else here masquerades crippling depression with jokes about suicide and death, no one has realised I want to kill myself yet
>>29023966
Shhh it's ok don't fight it. I'm slowly redpilling you on mbti like a black dick being slipped into your ass.
>>29023918
When someone likes what I do it's a lot easier to talk about something.
>>29024026
Is this is what you dorks bond over now that all of your meme mental illnesses have been laughed out of the room?
anyone else here ever the 'glue' that sticks people together, or like is kinda good at leading people when given the chance?
>>29023966
>>29024026
>mbti
>doesn't even align with the Big Five accepted by the field
>literally shit out by mom and daughter and shilled (literally, look it up) as a get rich quick scheme
>valid
anyone else a drug addict?
>>29024066
>the big five
>politically correct useless garbage
pick two
>>29024056
>implying we bond and don't just rip each others psyches to shreds for fun
>>29024140
>I'm edgy like that
Get out of our INFP thread you heartless animal
>>29024064
And then they walk right over you because they are savages with no sense of right and wrong
>>29024231
shut up infp you're lucky we let you on 4chan
>>29024267
exactly ;_;
oregano
>>29024268
I've been on 4chan before you knew what a computer was you "digital native" shitstain
>>29024140
>doesn't refute that mtbi was a cash grab
>he probably can't refute that it forces polarity between two extremes when any real population is a regular distribution and people are in the middle on average (my mtbi is literally always 49:51, 50:50, or 51:49 J:P and the system comes with literally no explanation for this)
>big 5 is useless
Actually it just only infers as much as it can about a person without making a bunch of astrology tier assumptions and the above false dichotomy claim
basically me but less bright colors and more fap socks and piss bottles
and restrainging orders :^)
>>29024294
Everybody knows an INFP's true home is on tumblr.
>>29024301
I have never heard anyone say mbti was a cash grab before. Sounds made up tbqh. Not that I would care either way.
>he's still trying to type himself with P and J
Nigger I posted the picture about the cognitive functions for a reason go read it. You don't type yourself with that P and J shit. And you definitely don't rely on the test to do it. You type yourself by knowing how the functions work.
There is nothing astrology tier about assuming people process information through Thinking, Feeling, Sensing and Intuition and your type is based on which of these are stronger in you and in what order.
>hurrr I'm agreeable this is such enlightening information
Big 5 is surface tier. Therefore it explains nothing. MBTI explains the mechanics.
Y'know, for all the flaws we have I kinda like being an INFP.
tell me about your creative tallent my fellow infp robots. Music master race reporting in. in the process of finishing off a song, sounding pretty good
youre almost intelligent
>f lol
>>29024672
Drawfag here, just dropped out of business school and looking for graphic design schools in my city.
INFP's are supposed to be creative, right? How come I have no talent or affinity for anything "artistic" or "creative"? Kill me now higher forms of INFP's.
faggots who over-complicate everything and can't navigate reality
t.INTP
>INTP
people actually buy into this meme nonsense?
INFPs are objectively the most useless personality type.
We are good at blogging, hating the world, and self-diagnosing with personality disorders.
>>29025981
wut, INFP is objevtively the best personality type
driven by inner values and immune to external influences
what you are describing has nothing to do with your cognitive functions
>>29023124
the highschool kiddies are taking their entry level psych classes and they always make you do this shit
>>29023357
>that pic
holy shit how fucking butthurt do you have to be to do a picture like that lmao
"ii-i-its SCIENCE! I know because I read it on 4CHAN"
I hope you don't wonder why you're a kissless virgin.
>>29024473
>I have never heard anyone say mbti was a cash grab before
That's because you never leave the house.
You having a pic doesn't mean it tells the truth.
Is your type "pure retard" or something like that?
They're probably pretty awesome, if more withdrawn and anxious because of how sensitive and emotional they are naturally.Speaking as an ENFP
>>29023926
Honestly? INFP Girls.
It sounds awful to have two people who are so emotionally unstable together but in my (admittedly limited) experience it tends to work.
My clingy and needy nature gives her the attention that her clingy and needy nature craves and vice versa.
i get infp on those tests and i never feel like anyone is genuinely nice. i feel like they're cherrypicking certain aspects without delving deeper, so their compliments are short-sighted and baseless.
i dont care or anything, it just made it impossible for me to take a compliment or anyone showing interest in me seriously..
Who /takesthingstoopersonally/ here? Seems like whenever my cousin is "joking" around with me by making fun of me, it just feels like he's bullying me and I don't want to play along with that shit.
Maybe it's because I got fucked with in highschool by people who seem a lot like him
>>29030032
it can be solved anon. I used to do that, and on a rare occasion I might be "buttmad" about something I should take lightly, but I have seriously improved in that area.
Right now I just need to work out my social anxiety (stop breathing around people because I'm worried they will think my breathing is labored and notice how anxious I am. did that today at the grocery store with the cashier and person in front of me. it sucked.) and I will be a pretty effective and balanced person if i get it under control.
Right now it is worse than it has ever been (i am 24) but I am doing things every day to make it better, instead of feeling hopeless and letting it get worse, like i have done up until this point.
Good luck
>>29030147
How did you queel your unending butthurt?
tfw no enfj waifu
>>29030191
Really I just spent a lot of time thinking about how I want my life to be. I want to have a few friends that I can joke around with and be relaxed around. Friends that I can be open with and say anything. Realistically, if I want to have those friends I need to be able to actually take a joke. once i realized this I started to build a shell mentally and its all hard to explain. You just have to do it however you need to. I used to not have those problems with sensitivity, they developed after i lost all my friends and I spent 5 years alone inside of my house. It may be easier to get back to that point since I was there in the past.
Based virtuoso tuning in
INFP are miserable people. Probably the most depressed personality type.
>>29030282
>I used to not have those problems with sensitivity
>they developed after I lost all my friends and I spent 5 years alone inside my house
Anon, are you me from the future? I had friends too, and I didn't think I was always THIS overly sensitive. But after school ended, I've been spending my days home alone with no friends for about a year now. INFPs do have a problem with entering "hermit mode".
>>29021844
you pretty much described my life. if I had social skills then maybe I'd fit in enough to have a basic level of confidence. but I don't have that at all. I'm locked inside my own head with nothing but my misery to keep me company.
INFP here
Always been way too sensitive so whenever external stimuli gets too overwhelming I block it out with internal stimuli. Always been a natural diplomat and can find fair and mutually beneficial solutions to people problems. Always had moral integrity to a fault, I lost my friends when I was 13 because they started trying to impress normies and became fake pseudo-normies themselves, I got thrown under the bus, they started calling me "emo" and telling me to kill myself
I seem to be able to draw certain kinds of people towards me but am not able to establish meaningful bonds with them. I often have misanthropic Nietzchean trains of thought and then go back to feeling a deep level of love and empathy for the world around me an hour later.
If I do say so myself, I am an extremely talented writer, more so since I've been in college learning more about the world around me and the people in it. If I get to look after/work with vulnerable people its like a switch gets flipped in my soul and I become extremely strong, confident and protective, I can feel my heart swelling and I just get filled with passion and energy
I am studying geography, specialising in human geography and want to work for the government or in the civil service, but am also considering getting into healthcare
>>29030480
>If I get to look after/work with vulnerable people its like a switch gets flipped in my soul
>I become extremely strong, confident, and protective
>I can feel my heart swelling and I get filled with passion and energy
I know that feel. It's a feel above all others.
>guy im connected with on linkedin lists INFP on his profile and link to read about INFP personality type
literally why
>>29025884
you're not wrong senpai. reality is a crushing weight on the infp.
>>29022642
I went from INFP to to ISTP
>>29021844
You need to give up on your creative purposes and follow something useful to harness that intelligence.
T. INFP law student
>>29030480
>tfw i was called emo when i was 13 too
>>29030681
It truly is. I'd rather work in a hospital cleaning up crap than work in a retail store or an office dealing with bullies and people who are filled with crap
>>29023124
iktf
the tests were done at least three days apart from each other
>>29030776
yeah but that requires a basic level of human functioning and social skills
What are some INFP songs you guys like?
This right here is my theme. This shit might very well play during my funeral. It's the song that keeps me going.
https://youtu.be/m6v_gOmVJ4I
INFP reporting in. Weird to see people in here I can relate to.
>>29023797
Same.
comentatoe originalis
>>29021826
Is there anything more tumblr than this shit?
>>29030999
Inspirational.
Nice trips btw
"I play facebook quizes to determine who I really am and then chat about it on 4chan!"
How did we get here lads
whats the difference between intp and infp
>>29031213
Post on Facebook instead if you love it so much.
>>29022221
Hey bauss? Fuck you.
>>29030413
Sorry, Anon. I had to go out to the store to get some groceries. desu, i have always wanted to be able to go hermit mode, but I always kept some friends during high school to surround myself with. I think we're gonna make it. Make sure to keep doing things, even if it's just going on a walk. I think you'll do just fine.
>>29031340
I don't think you understood the sarcasm friend
LOOK AT ALL THESE FAGGOTS.
WEW
I'm an INFP and life is pretty difficult.
My INTP/J friends say that i'm intelligent and I can understand people behaviors and emotions no problems and I can come up with the most bizzare ideas and dreams they have never thought about,which is pretty satisfying.But lately my friends said that i'm suffering of a mental deficit (Probably ADD) and I tend to do grammatical errors way more often and 'unchecked'.
>>29031320
Basically,there's no difference.They are both dreamers and they,both,think BIG and they would like to share their ideas to others.
But INFPs are more driven by their emotions,so they want someone empathetic to understand their way of thinking (And dreaming).
Instead INTP are more driven by logic,so they want to share their ideas and discoveries with groups of open minded and intelligent people.
Also I found this hilarious thing on Thoughtcatalog.com
>You often spend time exploring unrealistic and impractical yet intriguing ideas.
What the fuck does that mean?
Do I daydream? Yes, everyone does.
This test is shit.
INFP here.
we are healers. see the following:
http://keirsey.com/4temps/healer.aspx
>>29030480
>I lost my friends when I was 13 because they started trying to impress normies and became fake pseudo-normies themselves
This happened to me when I was 15. Haven't really made any new friends since.
JUST.
You have been muted because your comment was not original.
>>29022195
I am a very arrogent narcissist, but I also have very low self esteem, what do I do about it
>>29033037
What's this test?
>>29033068
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2016/04/how-the-myers-briggs-types-are-described-online-vs-how-they-are-in-real-life/
Got it from here.Enjoy.There's much more.
>>29033133
Thanks.
originaru
>>29033133
hahahahaahhahhaha
INTJ status: rekt
>>29033177
ffs dude
>>29030032
Dude, it's the same exact thing with me, spot on. I think for me personally it's more the fact that according to my values there is absolutely no need to fuck with others on any level, as it brings nothing good neither to me or the other, so therefore it annoys me. What bothers me the most are people who just can't joke about themselves or be humble, allways trying to be the tough guy and joking about others. That kind of attitude feels so primitive and animalistic to me. The most important thing is to not take anything personally, as they really just try to do what they believe is right.
>"""""""""fembot"""""""""""" the personality
>>29024074
I love you for that.
>INFP creative type here
22y/o kv. Please shoot me in the back of the head after I am done with art school. bi.
>>29033177
fuck you, Hitler was a fucking INFJ and took the control of europe.
>>29035365
Why is it the fembot personality?
Can somebody redpill me on being an INFJ
>>29034504
yeah i don't see why ppl have to prove they're cool.
>ESTJ makes the dominate type in western society. So what is the ESTJ's opposite type?
The INFP.
>INFP males suffer the most in western society because they are supposedly the least common type.
But in a worldwide scale the prevelance of each type is evenly distributed (statistically) and everyone in a perfectly mixed global culture suffers the same amount.
How about INTPs?
im infp but im not creaive at all :(
>>29036671
Maybe if we did anything there'd be something worth saying about us.
We're nobodies, although that's not a bad thing.
>>29022669
>tfw love gf but afraid to express it
>>29036776
she might like you being mysterious anyways. as long as you hug and kiss her the rest is implied nigga.
>>29021899
INFP's are the most common type on 4chan barring INTP's, INTJ's, ISTP's and ISTJ's. There's also a healthy smattering of weaselly ENTP's here and the occasional failure despite all the odds ENTJ.
>>29022004
>>29021973
Proof that INFP's are the most emotional and least rational types after ESFPs
>>29036468
the spiritual voodoo type
>>29022264
>>29022404
>>29022801
It's the ironic other half of the Dunning Krueger effect. The smarter you are, the better at meta cognition you become. At a certain level of intelligence, you become better at finding flaws than positive traits and your self confidence becomes less than it should be relative to your abilities.
Worship your intellect, being seen as smart, you will end up
feeling stupid, a fraud, always on the verge of being found out. And so on
>>29023497
Intelligence is statistically, objectively, psychologically, physically and scientifically observable.
Your argument doesn't hold water. The fact that aggregate knowledge is too great for any individual to wield doesn't mean different people aren't able to wield larger amounts of it. IQ, for example, the most popularized measure of intelligence, is just an ordinate rank based off of people's basic mental abilities. Memorization, vocabulary, spatial manipulation, fluency, problem solving, logic, sequential logic, associative capacity, etc.
There are diminishing returns on raw intelligence, but geometric returns on accomplishment with increasing intelligence, the same as there is for any other hierarchy, like sumo wrestling, running, business, etc.
Among the observable traits of intelligent people is increased mental rigor. Intelligent people are simply better at abstract concepts and learning, without any individual help (separating the concepts of crystallized and fluid intelligence). A person with an IQ of 150 (which means they'd be the 1000th smartest person in an average country of 1,000,000 people), on average, has twice the rate of conscious information flow, which is about two bytes.
Having a higher IQ, scoring higher on tests, being more fluent in abstract concepts, correlates to varying degrees with professional success, intellectual attainment, mortality, incidence of criminal activity, and earnings.
>>29021826
I got you senpai
>Be one of the rarer mbti types
>Post online in one of bigger mbti groups prolifically
>When relationships come up, say some vaguish robot stuff
>Not desperate, but noting I've never been in a relationship
>Get into flame war with some slav chick
>Apologize for my action, slav doesn't
>Suddenly get messaged by one of the female members
>She's an INFP
>I humor her, but don't directly address her much
>She's older than me
>Has a daughter
>NotGunnaBeBetaProvider.gif
>Tell her I'm not interested
>Apologize for leading her on
This is pretty much where I think I fucked up. I let her down kindly, instead of just giving a good strong "No"
>She doesn't message me for a month or so
>Starts messaging again, I don't respond
>Follows me into other group, finds some of my friends
>Starts messaging me constantly while I'm still telling her no
>I have NEVER said a kind word to her
>I block her
>Months go by
>She messages my fucking roommate asking to talk to me
>Thinking she has had to have gotten the message after all this time, I unblock her
>Ask her what she needed to talk to me about
>Doesn't give much of a straight answer
>She starts messaging once every day
>Starts reading into posts I make
>Eventually, I just tell her to leave me alone and block her for good.
>Track down her alt accounts and block them to to drive it the fuck home
As far as I could tell, she was convinced I would "come around" and was desperate. I'm in need of love, not some crazy bitch.
>>29038623
has twice the rate of the average man's conscious information flow*
>>29023497
Geometric returns of intelligence on accomplishment
>>29023497
Correlations with g
>>29022466
This is also the reason why whites believe that equality is oppression and anti-white racism.
A teacher's pet will get angry when the teacher gives him as much attention as everyone else.
>believing MBTI has any basis in psychology
>or science for that matter
did you remember to check your horoscope for today too?
>>29038717
It does have basis though. On Jung and co.
Horoscopes are random, MBTI's are based off questionaires
INFP here
Although I always preferred to be alone, I have to feel safe that I have friends and people like me all the time. I hate all of my colleagues in college, but I never stop talking to them because I NEEd friends. I laugh at their jokes, while inside I fantasize about strangling them to death.
Since I have this strong need of being loved, I also always longed for a girlfriend. In my mind, a girlfriend would be the ultimate relationship: I would be loved, I would love, and no matter what I did, our love would continue existing. But thats what I thought.
Since always, I only had a small group of friends that I really liked. They were always the smart, intellectual type.
Although I hate everyone, I want everyone to love me. Only then I'll feel safe.
>>29038623
Interesting stuff dude
I have a theory as to why less intelligent people are often more successful professionally, socially and generally in life
Because as you mentioned as intelligence increases as does meta cognition. Which means that a very intelligent person probably spends significantly more time considering decisions. However the problem with this I see is that life is vulnerable to so many random variables this extra cognition is almost useless. More often than not it seems to be more profitable for people to push forward on a path that seems good rather than it is to spend time carefully considering the best path.
Imo there is a golden spot of intelligence that allows for good decisions but doesnt involve all the meta cognition
>>29038734
mbti is based off cognitive functions
>>29038895
You are talking about practical intelligence vs theoretical intelligence. Sensing vs intuiting.
This is the main reason intuitives aren't as smart as they think they are. They completely disregard practicality.
>>29039164
I am more angling towards a shallow but fast heuristic vs a deep but slow heuristic.
Maybe this lack of practicality is what allows them to come up with new innovative concepts
>>29039321
>he fell for the only intuitives can innovate fallacy
You don't understand. Since intuitives don't understand the sensor world you guys make a caricature out of it and marginalize it. You think everything you can't do must be what sensors can do and everything you can do sensors can't.
So you think sensing is about playing sports and partying and being an animal ect.
Extroverted sensing is actually very experimental. It will try lots of new things. I would say maybe even the majority of innovations are done by ISTPs. For example steve jobs and thomas edison is istp. Intuitives don't understand just because you had a random idea or realization doesn't mean it's good or practical. ISTPs can filter out their good ideas from their bad and they have access to the intuitive world.
>>29039808
stop making me feel like shit for being a useless ISTP
>>29039808
I dont think people are all that pigeonholed or naive mate
Fuck yourself. We INTJ's are infinitely superior to you, and we always will be.
You INFP's are simpering, emotional pieces of trash while we are the sort who get the jobs we want, and do what we want in life because were intelligent enough to do so.
>>29039005
Cut the meming.
>>29039911
Stop pretending an INTJ to get people riled up against them. Or maybe it was your plan to expose me as an autist by making me reply.
People get riled up against us anyway.
>>29039835
It's ok brah we are the third most common type. We can take this one off.
>>29038895
They're not though.
What we learned from Terman's study of mathematically precocious youth is that smarter people are on average, taller, healthier, more attractive, wealthier and more socially well adapted.
>>29040390
interesting
are those occupations listed in ascending order of salary?
>>29038895
>I have a theory as to why less intelligent people are often more successful professionally, socially and generally in life
haha, no. intelligence is a major benefit. depression/anxiety/self-esteem issues are the limiting factor
>>29040658
class moreso
Bump. Never let the feels die
>>29021844
holy crap dude i'm infp and you just told me
but i don't puke i just get sad sometimes
>tfw INFP
>tfw losing touch with reality
Also I can't split my time evenly. I write (serious stuff and just all my fantasies so I can keep track), am trying to teach myself how to draw, and make music (my main aspiration).
Seriously though, fantasies>>>real life
infp here. someone mentioned that going the creative route is just hell.
well, should I? right now i am at home with my family and i took a break from everyrhing and told my parents i want to see if i can push myself into the world as an artist.
but my parents insist that i have to go to medical school.
i honestly can't tell if im just being subversive to get back at them for taking out their anger on me when they were newer to the parenting thing.
i feel so muddled.
i also know deep down that while I do feel that i have a sense of artistic taste and good judgment that comes naturally to me, I have absolutely NOTHING i want to express creatively. i have pretty images in my head but honestly i am fine with them staying in my head. this is hard to think about because it kind of means being an artist is pointless and nothing but bravado
but that might be how it is.
... anyhow, I dont dislike the intellectual route. med school ish kind of thing. its just that... my stomach cringes at the thought and theres this sense that ill be forfeiting something extremely important if i commit to it. and i had this one dream where a figure told me in passing, very casually, that if i choose to be a doctor, ill die.
i dont know. maybe if i just close my eyes like on a rollercoaster ill forget this ever happened, so i should just do the same and throw myself into the hell of premed, then med school, and afterwards ill be too into being an intern at a hospital. and some days i might think of the horrible stress i went through right now but itll be in the past and itll have lost total meaning. and that feeling of having lost somethinf extremely important will have dissipated as well because id have lost that too.
wait, is this just change that im fearing?
>>29034504
Can strongly relate with these feels. It really shows that "treat people the way want to be treated" is garbage advice, since people are destined to give you crap no matter what.
>>29038351
i must be a different type because i cant identify with being a spiritual, pseudophilosopher hitler.
no but i am infj
>>29043361
You could always find the middle path, since you're young. Gear up for a career that's rewarding, but not necessarily challenging to your intellect and creativity. Once you get in the groove of your easy job, channel your remaining creative energy into it. Working with others and being a part of the world will stimulate your creativity anyway. Physical labor is best, but it's 2016 so just do what you can.
t. another young idiot who chose the middle path and enjoys it
INFP is literally Wojak
The feel master
>>29038182
ENTP here. What do you mean by weaselly m8?
>>29030776
Fuck that. I'm not giving up my creativity. Glad it worked for you though, I'm considering a medical career while my creativity is a side thing. But fuck dropping it entirely.
>>29023554
>INFP/J
sorry dosent work like that
>>29023926
>what type of girls do you guys do you build connections with the best?
all my crushes and best friendships with girls have been with other INFPs
My best male friends tend to be INTPs, we have some incompatibilities but it tends to work pretty great.
>>29038351
theres two types infj-a infj-t. Turbulent and assertive.
>>29046629
No there isn't. They made that up it doesn't exist in mbti.
>>29039808
>You don't understand. Since intuitives don't understand the sensor world you guys make a caricature out of it and marginalize it. You think everything you can't do must be what sensors can do and everything you can do sensors can't.
this is why i love being an infj. Introverted intuition and extroverted sensing is OP
>>29039911
as infj i say im better then you
We should have these threads more often. I know MBTI isn't an exact science or anything, but it does seem like we share something in common, and it's nice to share some solidarity.
Plus, I bet a lot of you all don't talk about some of your more complex emotions to normies or even robots, for fear of them not caring/understanding. Well I know that feel. That's my secret, anons. I've always known that feel.
>>29046971
What makes you better than them, anon?
ISFPs are better than INFPs desu senpai
>more likeable/easy going
>less passive aggressive dickishness
>have no ego
This is coming from an INTJs experience
>pic related
>>29039911
>Fuck yourself. We INTJ's are infinitely superior to you, and we always will be.
t. intj with Superiority complex
>>29023131
>tfw someone shouts at me, i blame myself and almost start crying
INFP is good for girls, but so far the worst for males
>>29047525
Being a INFP male is the definition of beta
>>29022548
i laughed at this so hard but felt so bad because its so true
>>29047129
agreed.
this threads really help.
>>29047549
pretty much yes
ORIGINAL COMMENT FFS
>>29047525
I know this feel so bad, I take everything personally and I blame myself way too often, which causes me to withdraw within myself.
>>29033063
*arrogant
>>29039911
not an INFP but just chiming in to say you are a pitiful fedora tipper. that is all
>>29047525
This so much.
I get one chance at life, and I roll INFP. Just cuck my shit up
>>29021826
who else does see it?
>>29039835
>>29040317
Aren't useless ISTPs very similar to normal INTPs?
>tfw I just want a qt INFP to cuddle and gaze up at the stars with
>>29047896
Well what is that good for?
>>29048979
Gas the INFP mbti war now
>INFP
>Have lost multiple girls due to not expressing how I felt about them in fear of scaring them off
We're made to suffer
>>29021826
INTP but weaker minded, more emotional than logical
>>29049032
Fuck. If I like a girl, I get filled to the brim with emotions towards her. But I've accepted that I will most likely die alone. I won't ever subject another human being to suffer my presence 'til death do us part', nor allow myself to suffer being cucked or divorced.
>>29021826
I always get that type and I'm pretty sure it just means you're a total pussy.
>Tfw wake up
>spend 4 hours in bed
>Haven't peed, eaten, or started my day yet
Ugh. What a waste.
Shit sucks pham. I feel like a hollow camera that only observes life instead of living one. Music, anime, vidya, driving etc. helps a lot at least.
Any artists around?
>>29049920
Yo. This is me
>>29049719
I told my self I'd wake up early and do some practicing. Still haven't left my bed
>>29049920
Musician here. Any other INFPs have trouble motivating themselves to improve their skills?
>>29050281
>tfw insipired by electronic music artists
>tfw want to make my own dance tracks
>tfw no motivation
>tfw too lazy
>tfw even easy stuff like making electronic music which requires no skill on real instruments is too difficult to me
>tfw you need to sacrifice a lot of time
i j-just want t-to make something l-like this :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwqmJilXxJY
>>29050281
This is the problem of my life. I cannot fucking motivate myself. I wish there was a shock collar around my neck that would tase me every time I shurked a potential drawing opportunity.
>>29022018
INTJ here
Ive orchestrated these threads recently and they have taken off on their
You all are roachies.
>>29022195
>ugly
>stupid
>not really good at much
>people think things about me that aren't true, but refuse to habeeb it when i tell them
>failure
>>29051383
Hey, it's literally me.
Is there anything better than being ENTP?
intp here
you guys make some great life long buddies, but you really got to get your shit together and get out of your comfort zones more. there's a lot of really cool stuff in life you're missing out on. i struggle with a lot of the same motivational issues, but i'm not nearly as afraid of taking risks for reward.
>>29051331
So I'm not the only one then.
This hivemind will be created sooner than I had thought...
>>29051944
Another entp here
Maybe someone who isn't a self indulgent faggot? I like INFJs
>tfw ENTP and all friends are INFPs
INTJ here.
INFP is a special snowflake type. I dated two of them. I was friends with three of them. Never ever do I want such people in my life again. Overwhelmed with emotion. Scared of criticism. A wild ram with no direction or goal.
I've had (mainly) bad experiences with INFP's, but I have met one decent INFP.
>>29052165
I have some INFJs, INFPs, a lot of ESFPs and a single ENTJ friend.
>>29052048
There are more of us.
Ive counted at least 15 unique INTJs active in my thread from last time
>>28941752We are strong brother
>>29052253
>tfw know literally zero Ss
>>29052315
Why do people think ENTPs get laid? I'm in my 20s and still a virgin desu senpai. I'm not a kissless, hugless and handholdless virgin so I'm not as bad as say.. INTJs, but I don't have an easy access to pussy. That's all Ss.I'm good at PRETENDING that I'm not a virgin though. A lot of people assume I'm this alpha chad because of my charisma
>>29052168
Despite not having a good relationship with INFPs, I do with ENTJs, other INTJS, and ENTPs.
>>29052296
We are all the same collective consciousness with different subconscious.
>>29052437
I'm 26 and have a gf (first in 2 years, second in 4 years, other one lasted a month only)
I usually approach getting laid where I think of it as I'm happy to just be this persons friend and if I sense I can get laid try to (almost never turns into that desu, I also am very mindful not to try to fuck someone who talks shit about past partners)
I used my ENTP skills in a Facebook singles group and posted a pic with a funny graph about "cool people living in fucking narnia" and asking where everyone is from rather than posting a selfie, because no one wants to see a dudes selfie
Messaged every girl from Los Angeles, one liked Star Trek, boom getting laid and have a gf
Once I had sex with a hot girl in college I felt I didn't have to prove anything anymore and it toetured me less to not have a gf
>>29052569
>I usually approach getting laid where I think of it as I'm happy to just be this persons friend and if I sense I can get laid try to (almost never turns into that desu, I also am very mindful not to try to fuck someone who talks shit about past partners)
Same as me desu. I don't blame women for not getting laid, I blame my own laziness. I could get a gf easily if I actually reached around and put an effort into romance, but the problem is I'll get a oneitis, get close to her and eventually abandon the pursuit because I get too bored and move onto other things.
There are also club sluts that i could've banged if I just spent enough time at clubs, but I would go there once a few years and get bored pretty quickly so I'm not seen as a 'regular'. I'm not that bothered that I'm a virgin. I know I wouldn't be if I wasn't so damn lazy about getting into relationships or just pursuing pussy.
Maybe one day I'll get bored of whatever I'm doing and go and make my move. Maybe I'll turn 30 and become a wizard without a single sexual encounter. It's funny cause I actually had a gf back in high school but didn't stick with her long enough (she was a prude) for her to open her legs.
