The worst thing to happen to 4chan was that the userbase gradually shifted from being libertarian and accepting almost any freakish behavior as long as it didn't hurt anyone, to becoming full on fascists and hating on "degenerates". It's a shame that /pol/'s edgy philosophy has leaked onto the rest of the site.
>implying degeneracy should not be discouraged
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>>28757610
The worst thing that happened to 4Chan is every board being flooded with porn as opposed to actual content.
That's why we hate degenerates. 4Chan now worships women and when we try to tell the degenerate women worshippers to fuck off they don't.
>The worst thing to happen to 4chan
I think you're forgetting something, OP. Pic related is the worst thing to happen to 4chan and it isn't even remotely debatable.
>>28757610
Kill yourself you weak-willed pussy, how do you expect to control the world if you can't even control yourself
>>28757610
this
4chan was the land of the insane, not the land of hitler wannabes
Every board is so much more political now. Everything is SERIOUS BUSINESS
now people will unironically shit on someone for being edgy
it's just like tumblr, but with different names used to blame things
>>28757610
I blame the colleges in my region for pushing both extreme left wing and right wing thought (the latter at private institutions) into everyday life, things that should be common sense, but aren't anymore. Leading me to utter confusion and frusteration. I didn't go to college, I bled from high school to see my passions come to fruition, and now, I have the power to employ or ignore. I've become hateful of all but the most independant and obstinate of individuals. (north carolina native btw, you might be able to guess where I'm coming from)
The best thing to do right now, is avoid all but the most based individuals... but really, being 'based' is entirely dependant on world view, so fuck it. Only work with friends, despite skill or experience.
>>28757610
Why are you fucking talking about? You're upset 4chan has started to care about civilization? You're mad they don't apologize for muslims and niggers anymore? I don't get it
>>28757768
i miss it so much. when it was a bunch of anime loving fuckups who didn't care how degenerate anything was, the more shocking the better. now if you post anime people think you should get the fuck off the site. and im not even a huge anime fan, it was just a big part of the culture of the site.
>>28757889
Caring about people being "degenerate" is not the same as caring about civilization. Muslims hate degeneracy more than anyone and yet most people here agree they have become a big problem, nobody wants sharia law.
This site used to be so fun when people posted dumb shit just to have fun, people turning every thread into politics is boring. It's been especially bad within the past year, I can't wait for the US presidential race to be over I don't even care who wins
>>28758023
Muslims are alright, if they didnt' worship satan, race mix and fuck children they'd be cool. Sharia law is a great idea.
>>28758062
>worship satan, race mix and fuck children
/d/ tier fun
desu I miss when a large percentage of the userbase was cheese-pizza downloading weirdo fucks who posted here because they couldn't function on other sites because they'd be banned for spouting their hot opinions about child fucking
>>28758105
Wasn't it the Cane and Able thing. One the brothers was an asshole so God said 'Fuck you" and the descendants of one brother is forever in the pursuit of claiming legitimacy? (hence all the fighting and ass hurts from both sides)
>>28758105
I have rigid essentialist views, if one of oversteps ones creative essential boundaries i.e. act contrary to purpose you're a sinner and need to be beat. For example onanists and homosexuals should be beaten.
>>28757610
true, as far back as I remember there were always posters who screamed "degenerate" at everything (now they say "cuck") and there were always nazis on /new/ (now /pol/), but the incidents of the past few years have brought a distinct crowd here.
4chan once had its prevailing ideology shaped by the structure of the internet and the ideals of technologists, so naturally everyone was some sort of libertarian. Then we had gg and fappening and some other things that brought people with political agendas and less connection to things like free software, even anime. They've really shifted the narrative. Scary feminists are everywhere. General misanthropy has largely narrowed to hatred of minorities and people viewed as degenerate. Want to talk about how much a right-wing politician wants to crack down on the internet? Cuck. But of course I can't leave so I'm stuck here complaining about all of it.
>>28757889
Why should we care about civilization? If you're a robot you should fucking hate civilization.
People realized the folly of economic libertarianism and that all behavior has meaningful consequences.
>>28757610
It's called growing up. I used to be a libertarian when I was 16, but as I grew older I realized how harmful to society libertarian "freedom" is.
>4chan was that the userbase gradually shifted from being libertarian and accepting almost any freakish behavior as long as it didn't hurt anyone
Yeah, ask the furfaggots how tolerant we were of them.
Fuck off, newfag. Normalfags destroyed 4chan (namely /b/), not /pol/.
>>28758151
All semites are descended from Noah in the biblical account, and yes one of his sons was cursed for being a disrespectful son, but that isn't the source of conflict between Muslims and Christians. That's got a lot more to do with the fact that Arabs wanted the Holy Land to be part of their empire, while the Orthodox and Catholic Church wanted it in their backyard.
>>28758159
How do you define "purpose?" Is it different for different people? Do pagans who have lived without God for their entire life and have no chance to ever learn of God have the same essential boundaries as a Christian, or a Muslim who believes in God but hasn't recognised Jesus as God?
>>28758140
Most Nazis are "degenerate" childmolesters.
>>28758254
Everyone hates furries retard.
>>28758254
The vitriolic hatred expressed by /b/ toward the furry community was justified.
>>28757866
Where do you live? If there's a far right-wing college, I want to attend. Unfortunately though, I know you're bullshitting.
>>28757610
>degeneracy doesn't hurt anyone
Schlomo pls go
>>28758188
what's next? this is technically the end for the wild west. (or rather, where do we search from here?)
guessing It comes down to the abandonment of the internet, but what form does that take? or since we might not be able to abandon it at this point, does that mean those willing to engage must be willing to learn its controversial aspects to survive?
In my experience, the whole internet has just gotten more political in general. I like to think it'll die down after the election but I know it won't
>>28758254
furfags (and to some extent the ponyfags) were a special case in that they were really the fucking worst, most insufferable posters. They had to inject themselves into every thread and bring up their furriness no matter what. They might have won if, like right-wingers, they had brought an army of new posters instead of merely being a subculture of 4chan.
>>28758281
Yes, there is an objective mold all things in the world mirror, all humans are born with knowledge of right and wrong and the word of God is written in every heart. Degenerate races become ugly to reflect their ugly souls (see: jews, arabs)
>>28757610
/pol/ is a shitty board, but it's better now. In late 2014, it hits it's worst peak with redneck religious revivalists spamming the fedora meme and calling everyone 'neckbeards' and other buzzwords who didn't fit in to their neo-religious revival circlejerk.
The board still has it's remnants of that, and I do agree that degeneracy must be opposed, but the best way to deal with /pol/ is to quarantine them.
>>28758288
North Carolina man
good luck in finding the right one, heard they aren't that fun to attend.
>>28757610
It's a shame that this board is flooded up with threads that would be better suited to /soc/ and /b/. I've never noticed an overabundance of /pol/ here, and at least they can come with conversation topics that will breed dialogue as opposed to "what's your kik I'm a robot too!".
>>28758232
>as I grew older I realized how harmful to society libertarian "freedom" is
who fucking cares what is or isn't harmful to society? if that's growing up, than i'm glad i didn't mature
4chan was the worst thing to happen to the internet.
The internet was the worst thing to happen to real life.
>>28758288
here in texas we have some schools that are "christian" but have recently played down the evangelical aspect to boost enrollment. Their professors retain a deeply right-authoritarian outlook from what I hear.
>>28758395
/r9k/ is for original content. That is the purpose of this board.
And guys need a place to go on the Internet where they can vent about women. Unfortunately, female sluts and whiteknight nu-male Ledditors come here to constantly harass the guys here.
>>28758425
it's basically an extension of facebook/reddit now. cool people do other things that I am not aware of. But I guess that's why they're cool.
>>28758188
>But of course I can't leave so I'm stuck here complaining about all of it.
lmao cuck
>>28758335
If people are innately good, then Jesus wouldn't have had to save us. Think about the Polynesians, American indians and aborigines. They were born with the same soul as any other human, but because they've never had Gospels given to them until thousands of years later, they haven't lived Christian lives, and have been predestined to Hell for it. You're applying imaginary standards.
>implying the spooks didn't do this
GEE I WONDER WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM ONE OF THE MOST ANTIAUTHORITARIAN WEBSITES ON THE INTERNET BECOMING """""""""EDGY""""""""" STRAIGHT-LACED CONSERVATIVES
IT IS A MYSTERY
>>28758487
The logos is eternal and embedded in every human soul. Humans were innately good but after the fall, the world has turned into an ugly distortion of the world God created.
>>28758487
I wonder the same
speaking from that perspective, If it's that fucked, then maybe the eye of a needle is a real statement.
again, from that perspective, not if you don't believe in shit.
The worst thing that happened to 4chan was people finding out about 4chan. You can thank /b/ for that.
>>28758607
>>28758573
>>28758487
Oh, but not to say that most humans will be saved, I don't believe that at all. Nearly all will perish in God's righteous cleansing fires on the last day, whether they knew of God or not because most humans have ugly souls and black hearts.
>waaahhh /pol/ called me a name because I'm a fag!
Get over it OP. If you can't handle the bantz you can fuck off to a board that'll tolerate your shit, like /co/ or some shit.
Let's face it, social media ruined the internet and probably society as a whole.
>>28758642
I love that, black hearts. I'm not sure what I am, but what I believe. I hope the science is fucked enough that understanding isn't an option. Just fear. Fear and respect, love in my own ignorance and desire to learn. Shit dude, good luck/faith. Keep consuming as much information as possible before the internet in it's wild west state goes kupte. (if we aren't there already)
shit, hope someone calls me a faggot and explains this shit to us with a background in academia religion.
>>28757610
It's because porn boards and Reddit didn't leak into /pol/ besides shitposters.
>>28758653
That's not what the thread is about. /pol/ literally mottos itself as "/pol/ is always right" and they can't handle it when you disagree with them. A bunch of neckbearded manchildren in an echo chamber.
>>28758667
No. People were always degenerate. The Internet just amplified the degeneracy, along with corrupt western culture and a rise in the population rate.
>>28758879
Porn is on /pol/ all the time, I flag it and then I see the people complaining later that they got warned/banned.
The change happened because a lot of people realized there's more to life than muh dikking or smoking weed all day.
A libertarian society would last a couple days at most, I guess if I was retarded enough to be a libertarian then I'd probably also be retarded enough to get mad at other people having opinions though
>>28758969
what's your political stance? no judgment. But can you write the form of your certainty? I'm looking for the origin. Without that, you're just another fucker.
>>28757768
>>28757826
>>28757982
mein niggers
my niggers
>>28758348
*strokes the bill of and then tips fedora*
>>28758969
You'd be able to live an idyllic white picket fence lifestyle if you wanted, you just wouldn't be allowed to bother anyone else.
I just don't understand why you are so desperate to force your ass into other people's faces, that's all.
>>28758463
Normalfags come here, then take two routes
1. Post spergy facebook shit for le ebin laughs, get mad because no one liked the post, try a few more times, then leave so they can get instant likes on Facebook or Reddit
2. Come here, actually lurk for the mandatory 6 months before posting, get accustomed to board/site culture, then, like a chicken hatching from an egg, they start contributing, more and more, make a few memes, info graphs, whatever here and there (good quality ones) and eternally post here till they die.
This place is too cancerous for normies to stay. They either become us or leave.
>>28759073
Strokes the bill of what? I don't get it. I don't like anybody telling me what to do, it doesn't matter if you claim to have divine authority over the Internet. I don't care.
We can fight degeneracy more effectively by teaming up, not playing these silly games of division.
>>28759033
Monarchy or the U.S. When only white landowning men could vote
Those would be my ideal systems of government
4chan is a contrarian mirror.
You hold it up to society and what you get inside of the mirror is an opposite in extremity of what is happening in society.
If you ever hold up 4chan to the world and you see the world, you know it's in good balance and things will be alright.
But right now, you hold it up and you see the far right.
In the past you held it up and saw the far left.
But you're right, there was a time when you held it up and saw the world as it was but sillier.
>>28758398
>DUDE LIKE WHO EVEN FUCKIN CARES???
You literally sound like a 14 year-old.
>>28757610
i just reported this, have fun in the pokey, faggot.
:^)
friendo
>>28758487
According to consensus people who never heard the gospel go to heaven.
>>28758969
>there's more to life
Why are you here again?
>>28758882
>/pol/ literally mottos itself as "/pol/ is always right" and they can't handle it when you disagree with them.
lol. How do we "not handle it"? We just call you fags. You think we're all filled with rage when we see your faggy posts?
4chan is just being contrarian as usual. I'm willing to bet that after Trump is done being president, every one on the site is going to jump to someone who is the complete opposite. Its just one of the phases this site goes through.
>>28759181
When /pol/ sees a post that gets them mad, they openly proclaim how they will sage the thread and report the thread/post, and then they all bomb the target post/thread with rage and memes.
I am also a regular there. I haven't used 4chan in a week and this is my first time on /r9k/ in a while. It's complicated. We are not the amazing force we make ourselves out to be.
>>28759089
Do you not understand that other people's actions have consequences. People are pretty dumb, if nobodies looking over them they'll get into trouble. Not to mention they're easily manipulated, if someone wanted to subvert a libertarian society, it would be fairly easy, just look at how communism is able to subvert semi democratic countries, imagine no central power in place to stop that.
I'm going to bed now
>>28759215
>When /pol/ sees a post that gets them mad, they openly proclaim how they will sage the thread and report the thread/post, and then they all bomb the target post/thread with rage and memes.
Some people act that way, but I don't think the majority do.
Don't you think it's ironic that you say we can't handle it, when you're the one raging about how we're ruining your site?
>>28759215
Sage is the calmest of actions.
>>28757610
SIG HEIL, PLEB!
FEEL THIS EDGE!!!!!!
MY EDGE CUTS DOWN THE HEATHENS LIKE TRUMP CUTS TAXES!!!!!!!!!!
IMPREGNATE YOURSELF WITH MY WHITE FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>28757697
yup. though it's merely a mirror for the times
Marriage is dead. I can only reproduce through cuckoldry.
>>28758495
holy shit. this is new thread worthy
>>28759293
Spooks created the whole internet. Don't think otherwise. libertarians who complain about "privacy" and the NSA are hypocrites since they post online daily and give up their data anyway, because clearly the only "Freedoms" they really care about are the freedom to get unlimited porn and entertainment
>>28758495
>white nationalism is "straight-laced"
>supporting lower taxes, prostitution, and faggot marriage is true rebellion
>>28759113
Sorry, I didn't realise you were retarded.
>>28759235
>Don't you think it's ironic that you say we can't handle it, when you're the one raging about how we're ruining your site?
No, because I am merely getting my point across here. I am posting there as we speak. I never understood why they always boasted about themselves so much. Just because I criticize the self-proclaimed almighty /pol/ doesn't mean I am some secret agent or whatever as they have claimed I was before.
>>28759358
If your a libertarian I take that as a compliment
>>28759118
"Society" is the secret name of a many-bodied demon that wants to eat you and then work you to death while giving as little in return as possible. Your blood will be turned into GDP points, your meat into plastic crap, and your soul into data points. By disclosing this, I have placed myself at great risk.
>>28758348
Just wondering is this you posting here too:
>>28758389
but this time reversing your opinion and saying /pol/ is actually worse now?
I sometimes get paranoid when I detect posting styles that are similar and suspect someone's playing both sides of an argument. This kind of thing is why anonymity is bad.
>>28757610
Decadence and degeneracy rip at the fabric of society. Kill yourself disgusting heathen.
>>28758254
4chan furfags are silly and I'd prefer them over obnoxious nazi kids
>>28759441
>names
>ever
yeah man, Reddit, SA, Facebook, and every shitty "I suck mod cock" video game forum on the fucking web sure have that whole post quality thing on lock
shill harder
>>28759470
That's the whole point. I never said named internet wouldn't be unbearable. but since it involves commitment, it wouldn't be as interesting or addictive, and thus force people back into real life becuase the net will suck.
>>28759525
real life is dogshit senpai
>>28758608
It's amazing I had to scroll this far down to find the answer. The biggest problem is that the initial userbase has been massively outnumbered by an influx of high schoolers and normalfags.
Reddit is largely to blame. Reddit in its early days was pretty great. Around 2007-2008, rage comics (originating on 4chan) became popular on reddit, which drew in tons of people. Meme culture began, a shit ton of normies were starting to get on the Internet due to smartphones and their emerging popularity, and advice animals drew them from Facebook to reddit. The /r/jailbait news controversies drew even more attention to the site. Reddit quickly grew in millions of new users, mostly normies and women, not the nerdy outcasts that made up its initial userbase.
Over the years, reddit grew more and more, meanwhile 4chan had its controversies and news coverage that drew it into the public eye. Most normal people still shied away from it, but it was now a relatively well known site to the general population.
As social media became exponentially more popular, the Internet overall became filled with normies. This wasn't as bad, because they mostly stuck to only a few websites. Unfortunately, reddit was one of those in-between websites. Redditors mined 4chan for content and "memes", and from reddit it went to Facebook/Instagram/twitter/snapchat
As a result, more and more people were exposed to 4chan. I think most probably went to /b/ first, but they gradually began to shit up other boards.
The final nail in the coffin was when pepe exploded in popularity. For a moment, this board was the primary source of the latest "meme". I can't find the picture right now, but there's a graph showing the increase in how often this board was googled. It exploded in popularity, and for a while, every single day the front page of reddit featured the newest epic screencap from /r9k/. It never recovered. I doubt it ever will.
>>28759587
Real life is dogshit, I'd be the first to know. But people are going to have to face the dogshit at some point instead of using a slightly-less-smelly-dogshit simulator to escape from it all day like we're doing now.
>>28759625
I like anime though.
>>28759694
you won't be forbidden from watching anime. You'll just have to order it or go to a store again, or even purchase it online. This has nothing to do with the internet being anonymous or not.
>>28757610
Degeneracy is a meme.
The very act of using this site is degenerate given it's content.
The neckbeards ranting about degeneracy probably all smell anyway.
true 4chan died 2011
>>28759775
>remember when Costanza started out with
>2011
>I seriously hope you guys don't do this
>Remember when people would go like
>2011+1
>Slowly watch that + increase over the years until it's phased out entirely, along with the entire phrase
>now it's just another le meme face, with 90% of people not even knowing what it is
>>28759441
Yes, I am the same person. I don't feel like explaining myself but I will anyways.
It's not a "this or that" situation. It's very fluid and ever-changing. /r9k/ seems much better than when I went on in my heyday; at the same time, /pol/ is also better now compared to the late 2014 time period I was talking about.
It's still bad, both are bad, but both are better when compared to the other time periods I was talking about.
We both know this is a very degenerate website, so that's that.
You're all wrong. 4chan is and always has been counter culture. 4chan is becoming more conservative as society is becoming more liberal. Simple as that.
>>28759858
I really can't judge /r9k/ because I'm very new here (though not at all to 4chan as a whole). I certainly see my fair share of sluts and annoying tripfags though. Before either here or /pol/ I spent most of my time on conspiracy forums specifically LunaticOutpost. I liked LOP (oddly enough Lop is /pol/ backwards) because it had more older members and a lot less fighting going on (member call-out threads were against the rules). Also the religious people on LOP were almost always actually serious about their faith and not just meme spammers. Plenty of Christian vs Atheist drama that resulted in the creation of a religious subforum, but none of the fedora meme tier shit you see on /pol/, because the userbase is older.
I really hate that /pol/ is no longer a Christian board. It went full poz-loads.
>>28759115
Great post. Sums it all up quite nicely.
>>28757826
Because it's boring.
And reddit have started doing it.
>>28759775
>>28759852
>we live in a bizzaro world where /pol/ is now the main cultural center of 4chan
the worst part is that I'm not sure if I have any big issue with that
>>28757744
>control the world
do you know how you sound?
>>28759875
The important thing to understand is that this isn't counterculture for the sake of counterculture, it's being being exposed to the negative sides of either kind of government and seeing problems they hadn't anticipated. No system will be perfectly implemented in our time so it's bound to happen, but a lot of people are going to stay this way now that it has come full circle
"libertarians" has always been a fancy fedora word for nonconformism. now that the mainstream actively pushes degeneracy and campaigns against free speech, it's natural nonconformists fight back by espousing fascism to some degree. Normalfags and feminism turned this place into what it is; "with us or against us" mentality turns the dregs of society into your enemy
>>28762123
But people here have it all wrong. 4chan is not a "conservative" site at all. The degeneracy here is simply amazing. I don't even think these people know what "conservative" means.
>>28762152
What does it mean to you then?
>>28757682
>implying 4chan was ever not flooded with porn instead of actual content
>>28757610
Damn newfag, 4chan has always hated degeneracy and niggers.
>>28762164
Are you trying to imply that the current site in it's current form is in any way conservative? I can't even begin to describe the degeneracy on here.
>conservative
>holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.
The people who tout how conservative they are on 4chan are just roleplaying. None of them would last in a truly conservative society.
>>28757610
Most of the muslims I've met with are genuinely cool people.
Niggers are complete degenerates though, haven't met a single one that didn't bug the shit out of me in some form or another.
