Have you noticed people with social anxiety, low self esteem, problems connecting to peers socially and other problems are always unattractive? Is that why they're like that in the first place? Why do the losers and the unwanted of society have these problems? Good looking people never have these.
Because they're bullied and receive negative reinforcement for having inferior genetics. Not always even explicitly. It completely changes the way people behave towards you.
>>28445605
first post best post.
ugly people have it uphill all life
Looks are malleable, aren't they. I wouldn't have had such a shitty jaw if my parents weren't too stupid to fix it in time. No surprise, they were idiots about a lot of other things too.
The hottest girl I know is a withdrawn husk due to being abused by her parents all throughout her childhood. Attractive people can be damaged too.
>>28445851
I'm mostly talking about guys, then again I've known a lot of attractive females and all have been super confident as well. I do agree with the previous posters, when you get treated like shit your entire life you feel like shit, your confidence goes to shit.
>>28445437
> good looking people never have these problems
You must be retarded or baiting.
I'm a reasonably attractive guy. I can sign on to Tinder and get 80-100 matches within a week and am currently dating three women. I also used to work in clubs and would forever have sloots grab my arse.
I also have diagnosed severe and persistent depression (as in, someone who works for an actual hospital and not self-diagnosed through a fucking web questionnaire).
Because society is fucking cruel to ugly guys. It's like being ugly is their fault. Ugly girls are fine tho.
>>28446045
he didn't mean that and you know it.
>>28446095
that must be so hard
do you need a tissue?
>>28446095
>and am currently dating three women
You deserve all your hardships. Remember that you can end your life at any time! It won't even hurt. It'll feel good, it'll take all the pain away.
>>28445437
Holy shit that guy in front is ugly af
>>28446095
Fucking depression, man. It's like the NEETs here don't even know what it feels like.
>>28445437
That's bullshit though.
I've known plenty of attractive people who were socially awkward.
>>28446095
>I also have diagnosed severe and persistent depression (as in, someone who works for an actual hospital and not self-diagnosed through a fucking web questionnaire).
I've simply been diagnosed by a quack's questionnaire.
Kek.
>>28446095
so you are weak man.
if you are going to be alone for some reason, you will probably kill yourself
>>28447338
>how do you feel on a scale of 1-5?
But it was at a hospital, it's legitimate science!
>>28447307
I thought it didn't feel like anything.
>tfw knew and mercilessly bullied an attractive sperg
>the ignominy of our treatment was slightly better than the complete indifference of everyone else and we became pretty good friends
Despite being attractive and intelligent, he's still floundering in life. I assume he's lost his virginity though because he formed crushes on very ugly girls in high school and he's undoubtedly wandered into some college parties and gotten shitfaced, especially since he's scared he's an alcoholic and refuses to drink now.
He's got Chad-tier facial aesthetics, is about 6'3" and we got him drunk once and he said he had a seven inch penis, he just fucking hates himself.
>>28446095
maybe things would improve if you weren't a cheater
off yourself
sit on a rusty spike until you get gangrene of the asshole
>>28446095
WOAH NICE MAN, I ALSO HAVE SEVERE AND PERSISTENT DEPRESSION BUT I'M NOT DATING 3 WHORES NEITHER GETTING 100 MATCHES ON TINDER, SO FUCK YOU NORMALFAG
i'm not bad looking but i'm still socially retarded
>>28446095
It's never going to get better. You should just put an end to it and kill yourself my man.
>>28447586
take your own advice, piece of shit.
>>28445605
on the same note, some attractive people get bullied and receive negative reinforcement because of jealousy.
>>28447643
>shit that has never happened ever
>>28447497
>I ALSO HAVE SEVERE AND PERSISTENT DEPRESSION
Kek. "Persistent' is a new one.
Is it severe persistent clinical depression?
>>28447683
It's MAJOR severe persistent clinical depression, officially diagnosed by three mental health professionals.
>>28447643
>>28447667
this shit definitely happened to me
>>28447700
Oh ok. I forgot 'MAJOR'.
>>28447707
>shit that has never happened
>never ever
I was attractive until ~3 years ago. Literally always had a gf/usually a side from 13-21
I'm nothing now though
>>28447667
What makes you think this hasn't happened?
>>28445437
>Good looking people never have these.
Toppest kek, delusion
>>28447843
>b-bloo bloo I'm so upset because people are jealous of my good looks!
it's just not a rational situation
>>28447854
are you implying that I think I'm good looking?
I'm really not if that's what you're thinking.
>it's just not a rational situation
So jealousy doesn't exist?
>>28447843
Different anon. I don't think it happens either. Never seen it.
>>28447920
>are you implying that I think I'm good looking?
what the fuck are you talking about?
did you read the post chain you're replying to?
>some attractive people get bullied and receive negative reinforcement because of jealousy.
Plenty of ugly guys are very social.
Good looking dudes are, admittedly, rarely social outcasts, but it does happen.
Either way, being good looking doesn't give you any guarantees.
>>28447927
yeah, it's a myth. Good looking people don't get bulied. especially dudes.
All you Chads please fuck me!
>>28446095
This person doesn't belong here, this is no robot.
I've been called incredibly handsome by many women, infact I don't even doubt anymore that I am, but I have not even hugged a girl since middle school. I became addicted to the Internet in my early teens and completely missed out on all forms of normal social development. Now I'm a total recluse with zero aspirations and a phobia of literally everything outside my front door. My face does absolutely nothing to change the fact that I am a complete and utter loser. Oh and the chronic depression is nice too.
OP is right about women though, yes they are not all stacies with perfect easy mode lives, but they will never know the true suffering a man can experience.
>>28447981
Wrong. Being good looking doesn't prevent you from getting bullied. Unless you are also a chad(the two aren't mutually inclusive).
>>28447707
>beta autist thinks people bully him because they are jealous
Top kek
>>28447981
>looks are everything XD
>>28448077
Maybe like a young gay dude?
Good looking straight dude; never seen it.
I suspect you're pushing for this to be true to lend some credibility to your meme mental illnesses.
>>28448113
they aren't everything
money also matters
>>28448128
>lend some credibility to your meme mental illnesses
I'm not even sure where you're going with this.
I'm a "good looking straight dude", and I got bullied, and now I'm a social recluse, so I speak from experience. I admit, I'm a rarity, but to say that it doesn't happen ever is kind of retarded.
I believe good looking people can have depression and anxiety everyone can get it. But I don't believe they can be robots.
>>28448168
Dude you're an ultra rarity. You must be completely socially retarded, or perhaps, you vastly overestimate your looks.
>>28448170
>can get it.
I caught it from a toilet seat in a public bathroom.
>>28448249
I don't think I do. I'm not saying I'm ultra attractive, but I'm fairly certain I'm above average.
I wouldn't even say I'm all that socially retarded. A complete and utter lack of self-confidence can fuck you over, regardless of what you have to work with.
>>28445437
have you ever noticed ugly people with great social skills who are well liked?
it's the halo effect.
attractive people can get away with being spergs or negative people.
of course, they don't ever become spergs or negative, because the positive reinforcement makes them positive interesting people which makes them even more popular.
just saying even if they had all the negative qualities we do, they would still be le hot nerd.
>>28448113
they legit are everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTwSSTWfwuM
>>28448170
Anyone can be a robot, the shape of your face is not some kind of guarantee that your life is going to be perfect
I've had major depressive disorder for the past 10 years and was incapable of talking to any strangers not even a year ago. I'm reasonably attractive.
I went outside and practiced though so now I have a roster of white girls hopping on my BBC.
>>28448365
If you're attractive you are desirable by women. Robots are not desired by women. I'm not saying if you're good looking you're automatically a normalfag, just not a robot.
>>28445437
>CHAD the normal one!
>CHAD the emotional one!
>CHAD the exotic one!
>CHAD the cool one!
>>28448315
Alright, since you guys seem to get all your impressions of social interaction from watching anime, let me break it down for you:
You can be an attractive guy, but that doesn't mean moist pussies will pop into existance everywhere you go. There is more to being social than just looking the part.
You just want to shift the blame of all your problems on your looks, that way it all comes down to genetics, something that is out of your hands. Even you can admit that there are ugly guys out there doing really well in the areas that you aren't.
>>28448387
Being good looking doesn't immediately make you desirable to women. Obviously, this is 4chan, so the idea that females are interested in qualities other than aesthetics might not sit well with you, but there you go.
>>28448410
>You can be an attractive guy, but that doesn't mean moist pussies will pop into existance everywhere you go.
obviously not. but being attractive is a primer.
you're already in a good position in people's minds because of your looks.
you have to try hard to screw up in social situations. ugly people are already unconsciously assumed to be dumber, creepier, less interesting. you have to work much harder to impress people and even then you can get upstaged by someone less competent but more attractive.
>>28448387
Being a robot means being a social recluse, someone who is dysfunctional in normal social settings. Undesirability towards women is not the sole defining trait dummy
>>28448457
>you have to try hard to screw up in social situations.
Not knowing what to say and giving one word answers isn't very hard. They usually have no desire to talk with you anymore because you're not interesting.
>>28447667
happens all the time.
Whats the first thing you think when you see a 9/10 "alpha" hunk walking down the street.
>what a douche, probably dumb as a rock, bet he's a self absorbed asshole living of his rich dads money.
Not that I pitty "alpha" males, they have alot going for them all ready so they dont need it, but that is usually the image portrayed by popular culture, the handsome, but spoiled, selfish and dumb jock that rides through life solely on his good looks.
Well, everybody have their prejudices.
.
>>28448496
maybe people think you're dumb because you type like a dumb person
>>28447979
underrated poast.
Being "good looking" doesnt guarantee anything
>>28448457
Yep, good looking people do have an easier time, no argument there. But people are making it out to be a bigger advantage than it is.
I'm assuming you are the person I replied to originally.
>just saying even if they had all the negative qualities we do, they would still be le hot nerd.
See, this is the part I disagree with. Even being good looking doesn't let you get away with being an awkward social retard.
>GUYS MY LIFE IS SO HARD I'M ATTRACTIVE BUT MUH SOCIAL SKILLS
this thread makes me fucking sick
please just off yourselves
>>28448511
english is my second language
eat shit
>>28448445
I'm well aware looks are only 50% the other 50% is confidence, robots lack both. There are plenty of women who really desire just the good looking part and would actually prefer someone who was kind of shy and anxious but they still have to be good looking or else they're a creep. ie women love Michael Cera to death despite him being pretty much an autist.
>>28448489
Its literally the biggest trait and the thing most robots have in common. Its why a good number of threads here are bitching about not having a gf and being a permavirgin. Sure being dysfunctional in social settings can be part of it but its not a requirement. You can have someone with decent social skills but they're still a permavirgin because of looks.
>>28448556
that doesn't make you immune from criticism
>>28448531
If you're full on sperg mode then no you won't be excused, but your character flaws are under far less scrutiny as an attractive individual, but yes you need to still be somewhat sane
>>28448531
bullshit. ever see those tinder catfish threads? they're talking about anime and fedoras and mountain dew, and the girls still continue to reply because they're hot.
>>28448570
>criticism
>hurr your grammar is shit
>>28445437
The Chad in the lower right corner looks constipated.
>tfw your statement causes a shitstorm
>>28448577
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that being attractive tips the scales in your favour somewhat, but it's not a free pass.
I'm assuming our only point of disagreement is the extent to which good looks provide you with an advantage. But I'm happy to let it go.
>>28448604
looks like criticism to me
>>28448563
Yes most people post here because tfw no gf, but thats the board environment, it doesn't change the definition of robot, which is first and foremost an extremely general term used for someone who is overall a failure at life with broken or nonexistent social skills
>>28448627
This board is incredibly easy to bait, you're not exactly impressing anyone. The "handsome autist" is some of the most regurgitated shit on this board.
>>28445437
why do white people all look the same
>>28446095
bawwww aaaaaaawwwwwww muh depression
I HAVE SO MUCH PUSSY ITS DEPRESSING PLS HELP BUT BEFORE 11 BEKOZ IMMA HIT THE CLUB HAHA
>>28448597
I have to admit, I haven't seen good looking guys talk about anime and fedoras. I'm sure it happens, but I have never witnessed it.
Having said that, though, I reckon you could pull girls by talking about anime if you do it with confidence. And you choose particular girls. If you just go "MAI WAIFU", then I'm pretty sure it would take a very "special" girl to be interested.
>>28448695
>if you do it with confidence
Meme.
>>28448657
If you're not ugly, then the people here tend to categorize you as a "failed normie". As if that's not precisely what a robot is.
>inb4 shitstorm
>>28445437
I'm very attractive, everytime I'm out on bars girls check me out. However I have extreme social anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts.
>>28448729
Not really, being average you can totally be a robot. Women don't really care about average men and no average guy gets laid based on looks. They just see them as mediocre. O
>>28448712
A good line delivered with no confidence can fuck over a good looking dude.
A shit line with confidence behind it can get an ugly sonnovabitch a lifetime supply of pussy.
>>28448729
Look all I'm saying is if was solely about relationships we wouldn't have fucking chicken tendie and auntie finding my poopoo sock threads every day, think about it
>>28448762
Women associate good looks with confidence.
An ugly confident person is a 'creep'.
>>28448762
>A shit line with confidence behind it can get an ugly sonnovabitch a lifetime supply of pussy.
you should have told me you're fucking insane, I wouldn't have bothered with this conversation
>>28448797
More like arrogant.
Creep is an ugly shy guy
Not like it matters tho
>>28448797
This x1000
This is why B URSELF is such a joke
>>28445437
That's such a basic thing to realize about life. you just figured this out? people hate ugliness. Go take a walk and see who you'd rather associate yourself with based on looks alone.
>>28448657
So you're telling me a fat permavirgin neckbeard who has been bullied and failed with women many times, hates himself and has low self-confidence isn't a robot because they might be able to hold a conversation with someone?
Give me a break, robots have always been about being a virgin and calling anyone who isn't or anyone with a gf a normalfag. People with poor social skills can get laid just by looking good, they might not be able to hold a relationship because of their poor social skills but could easily just have a one night stand with some slut. Robots can't do that, you put a good looking guy with poor social skills on tinder vs an actual robot and see who gets more matches.
>>28448797
>Women associate good looks with confidence.
So? They might associate good looks with confidence, but if you have none, then it won't matter.
>>28448814
Right, ugly guys never get laid. I wonder why there are still ugly guys out there.
>>28448872
I never said that person wouldn't be a robot, I simply said robothood is not exclusive to failing with women
Reading comprehension dude
>>28445437
Because good looking people are always socially validated just because of the way they were born.
They don't really have to try
>>28448904
>I wonder why there are still ugly guys out there.
Because you are a retard who doesn't know how genetics work?
>>28448910
>which is first and foremost an extremely general term used for someone who is overall a failure at life
>with broken or nonexistent social skills
Someone who can hold a conversation wouldn't really have "broken or nonexistent social skills" so by your definition that person wouldn't be a robot, if that was the first and foremost definition.
>>28448931
And clearly you don't know how anything works. All you need to do is stick your head out of your basement at least once a week, and I guarantee you will eventually see an ugly guy with a girl that's average or even hot.
>implying bruce willis is handsome
>>28448931
That would imply if you educated him, ugly people who disappear
>>28448959
Oh yeah, Bruce Willis was so fucking ugly.
>>28448946
In your example you describe someone completely typical of a robot then give him a non-robot trait to poke a hole In what I said, you think just because someone can hold a conversation means they are 100% socially adept?
>>28448959
If Bruce Willis is your definition of ugly then yeah I totally believe you.
But tell me this. have you ever seen someone who looked like pic related with a hot gf, hell I make it easier for you a gf that wasn't fat?
>>28449123
Forgot pic.original comment you faggot
>>28449090
Well i'm sorry most of the time when I hear robots talk about poor social skills they jump to hardcore social anxiety to someone who avoids people and whenever they actually try to make conversation stutter because they're so anxious.
they look like fags
>>28449123
>>28449145
>have you ever seen someone who looked like pic related with a hot gf
Yes.
Why does every autist think they're secretly good looking? your parents saying you're handsome or old ladies saying that doesn't make it true at all. You would have a gf by default trust me. It would just "happen".
>>28445437
>Elliot Rodger is rich
>comes from a famous family
>half white AND half asian
>shoots up a bunch of people
WTF bro!? Why couldn't he just be himself? What an asshole
>>28449234
>trust me
Yes, because you are clearly an authority on the subject. Tell me, do you know this because you are a handsome dude, or are you ugly and just assume that if you weren't ugly, you would easily get a gf?
>>28448074
No, I'm sorry for what your're going through, but you're failed normie. Robots never had a chance from the start.
>>28449344
Why would you even assume you are handsome if you've never been laid lmao?
>>28445437
I'm actually reasonable looking (at worst average, at best above-average unconventional attractive but not chad.)
My autism tier personality is what puts people off.
(And more recently, failure to bathe or groom because I've totally given up.
>>28449429
If you are the guy I replied to, then you are dodging my question.
>>28446095
try being single for a while, that alone might cure you
>>28445437
and here I am, too afraid to lose weight because I wanna stay ignored... >>28449458
>>28446095
If you were here I'd break a bottle in your face.
>>28448445
>>28448563
Bullshit, looks are 90% of attraction. Girls don't care if you're charming or can make people laugh, if you're not good looking they'll see you as a goofy brother and nothing else.
>>28450861
Then how do you explain ugly guys with girlfriends that aren't ugly?
>>28450902
Simple.
It almost never happens.
The Angelina Jolies of the world are dating the Brad Pitts, not the Steve Buscemis.
In the exceptionally rare circumstances in which it does occur, they are the exceptions to the rule and are usually explained by the guy being loaded or the girl having some weird fetish/mental issues.
>>28450861
Actually they do care if you're funny or charming. The thing is that if you're attractive they will AUTOMATICALLY attribute those qualities to you.
If you're handsome, suddenly everything you say is funny and interesting. Even your nerdy hobbies like collecting chinese cartoon figurines become cute and endearing.
If you're good looking you can get away with anything. Literally.
It's called the Halo Effect. Look it up.
>>28451102
Utter horseshit.
Are you handsome? Is that how you know this?
Our are you ugly and assume that if you weren't ugly you would get a gf easily?
There has to be an answer to this question.
>>28451234
It's supported by facts you dumb fuck:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
Resorting to puerile ad hominem doesn't change the facts. Read up on it and learn the truth.
Do you seriously think that the guy in the picture has any issues getting laid? He probably doesn't even have to open his mouth and women are already wet.
Average looking guys on the other hand have to constantly pass shit tests and validate themselves to women.
You're fucking NAIVE as fuck if you think that looks aren't the biggest factor when it comes to attraction.
>>28451365
Yes, your looks affect how people percieve you, so what? You are a retard if you think being good looking automatically gets you laid. It gives an advantage, that's it.
I guess you are not gonna answer my question, huh? Ok.
>>28450962
>Angelina Jolie
>attractive
>>28451460
It's a MASSIVE advantage.
That guy walks into a bar and women approach him all night. He can literally just "bee himself" and women will agree with everything he says and find him charming and cute.
Meanwhile, an average guy has to game women as much as possible if he ever hopes to get laid. He has to fine tune his personality to ensure that he teases her just enough to come off as cocky funny but not too much that he'll come off as rude or creepy. He reads countless PUA and self improvement books desperately trying to figure out what women want when in reality, what women want is printed on the cover of A&F catalogs.
Oh and for the record, I'm neither handsome nor ugly. I'm quite average looking to be honest. But I've got friends that are ugly and friends that look like male models. The reaction they get from women when we go out is quite eye opening. Women are superficial as fuck bro. Even worse than men.
>>28451568
>MASSIVE advantage
I disagree.
>He can literally just "bee himself" and women will agree with everything he says and find him charming and cute.
Thing is, the dude in question probably IS charming and "cute". If he was a social retard, he couldn't pull it off. I am somewhat of an authority on the subject.
I'm gonna go ahead and quote your stupid wikipedia article:
>someone who is perceived as attractive, due in part to physical traits, may be more likely to be perceived as kind or intelligent.
>may be
>more likely
In no way does this suggest that being good looking gives you some sort of free pass.
>>28451684
>I disagree.
Of course you do. The redpill is hard to swallow.
I'm sorry that reality doesn't correspond to your naive Disney movie fantasies.
People judge you first and foremost by your appearance. Everything you do is seen through the lens of your looks.
Example:
An ugly guy alone in a bar:
>loser
>creep
>where are your friends
A handsome guy alone in a bar:
>so deep and mysterious
>brooding
>I should go and talk to him
>>28445437
>ugly
just get rich or be a funny lad u loser
>>28451837
And you were accusing me of "resorting to puerile ad hominem".
Re-stating the same thing you said before doesn't make your argument more solid.
>>28451879
Getting rich isn't easy and women don't find funny guys sexually attractive.
I have these problems and am good looking. It doesn't keep me from totally having sex but it keeps it down to like 1-2 times a year (sometimes not at all for several years)
>>28451923
>women don't find funny guys sexually attractive.
It's amazing how this board is filled with kissless virgins, who, amazingly enough, all seem to know extremely well what women are attracted to. Fancy that.
>>28451903
Do you want me to link you some more studies on attraction?
I mean so far you've provided no counter argument or any evidence that contradicts any of what I'm saying.
>>28445437
Being unattractive doesn't give you low self-esteem. Having low self-esteem makes you unattractive.
>>28451965
I'm not a virgin.
I have plenty of funny guy friends who are though.
Stand up comedians aren't exactly drowning in pussy m8.
Women enjoy their company sure, justs as anyone does, but when it comes to attraction, funny alone isn't enough.
>>28451965
deep down, robots wants to live like chad and love women
if you're not a robot, you'd probably won't understand our feeling
>>28452003
Can you show me an article that proves that being handsome automatically guarantees you access to vaginas? Because you haven't done that.
You have given me a link to your horseshit halo effect, which states that good looking people may be viewed more favourably, which is something I am already aware of.
>>28452028
fuck off you normalcunt
>>28452049
I don't consider myself a robot, but as a kissless virgin, I think I can relate.
am 6-7 half robot, current gf is a total qt 8/10.
Probably banged around 20 girls in my life. Some barely average but most quite hot. But then on the other hand I've never been a whiny pussy and put in the actual effort. Probably talked to more than 200 women in my life.
No pain, no gain fuckers.
>>28451965
you normie shit doesn't realize all bliss that life has given to you
>>28452051
You're just being faceitious. Even if I were to post a link to a study you would claim was biased or invalid somehow.
Keep believing your fantasies that women care about your "great personality and sense of humour".
>>28452100
you fuck off too you POS
>>28452100
half robot LMAO, get the fuck out.
>>28452107
Kissless virgin here. I just happen to be blessed with self-awareness.
A good friend of mine:
>6'3
>Very handsome
>Athletic
>Has made over 50k doing part-time modeling
>Intelligent with a good sense of humor
>MASSIVE dick
He hasn't been laid in at least 4 years now. Had his heart broken by a crazy bitch and has exactly the same attitude to women as you guys.
You're so delusional that you don't realise the ONLY thing that makes you unattractive is your attitude.
>>28445437
I think its my pesonality
I'm no chad, but in not entirely ugly either.
Alot of people change their appearance to look better, haircut, clothes, etc. I never had the confidence to do so.
Having a default haircut and being emotionally withdrawn and mentally fucked all your life isn't attractive.
I've seen nerdy fags on the same attractiveness scale as me get cute gfs, because they were NORMAL, and had no problem talking to people, whilst I was trying to figure out a way of not feeling sick and gagging just from talking to people because of how tight my throat was and how much stress my body was dealing with just from normal social interaction.
I was always broken.
>>28452115
>Keep believing your fantasies that women care about your "great personality and sense of humour"
If I had those, I wouldn't be a virgin.
Obviously, you are commited to ignore everything I say, so good luck to you, you deluded cunt.
>>28452121
>>28452123
aight, you're right. Probably have no right to call me a robot of any degree anymore at this point. But started at the same point where you guys are. 20y old virgin, socially awkward, ugly and utterly unattractive, some friends but they would look down on me or bang my crushes, literally no self-esteem.
>>28452143
Pretty much this.
Unfortunately 4chan users would rather keep deluding themselves instead of taking some fucking responsibility for the state of their life.
>>28452175
If you're a virgin it's either because:
a) you're ugly (people tend to vastly overestimate their own attractiveness btw)
b) you never come into contact with the opposite sex (i.e you have no social life)
or
c) you're mentally retarded. like literally mentally retarded, not just le autism meme but like, clinically mentally retarded to the point where you can't function normally in society
>>28452222
That's where I'm at now. Except I'm 25, so my circumstances are more grim.
What prompted you to pull yourself together?
>>28452236
Not ugly, not retarded. On the rare occasions that I do come into contact with females, I sperg out, because I have no self confidence(which is the root of all my problems).
>>28452264
what do ya think? not getting pussy and being walked over by people constantly obviously. Also I wanted to enjoy live
>>28452327
> I wanted to enjoy live
Most people do. I guess there's always the noose.
>>28452310
simple solution: get into contact with females constantly. It will a) reduce your exitement about it happening b) create bigger sample to get lucky at least once.
>>28452225
> Unfortunately 4chan users would rather keep deluding themselves instead of taking some fucking responsibility for the state of their life.
Chad doesn't even have to take 'responsibility' about their life and can still get many girls
Life is unfair
>>28452369
I get the theory. Expose yourself to situations you are uncomfortable with to get over the fear. I just can't help it. I would literally rather fight a fucking dragon before I would choose to approach a female.
>>28452310
What do you mean by "sperg out"?
What does your lack of confidence stem from?
>>28452225
>>28452143
Just because your 6'3 rich handsome friend is celibate because of his personality doesn't mean that the rest of us are.
Some of us are legitimately ugly, poor with shit personalities. It's not like we can just flip a switch and suddenly become alpha males.
>>28452417
Don't know. Could be many things.
By "sperg out", I mean I act extremely unconfident and distant.
We recently had 2 female coworkers at my job for a month or two. For the entire duration of those 2 months, I literally ignored them, didn't greet them when I came in, did my absolute best not to make eye contact, like a retard.
It sucks, because I actually think I look pretty decent.
>>28452467
I don't understand how you can be insecure and not know why.
I'm insecure because I'm unattractive. If I was attractive I would have no problem approaching women.
>>28452505
It's hard to say, because I feel like my whole life has been leading up to me being insecure. Too many things to mention.
All in all, it just pisses me off when people say that being good looking is like playing on easy mode. It just isn't.
How do I meet women? Where do I go? There's no one my age in town that isn't already in a social group that does social things. No one shows up to any public activities. Girls don't go to the gym and the library to get hit on by strangers they are there for a purpose. Unapproachable
>>28452451
Changing the way you think costs nothing!
I have a chinese friend, 5'3 with mild acne scarring that has been with countless women.
Here's another guy i know who 'looks good on paper'
>31 years old
>6'1
>Multi-millionaire businessman
>Qualified Pilot
>Qualified Helicopter Pilot
>Handsome and very athletic
He's an absolute retard with women. Doesn't even have the robot mentality, it's hard to explain. If i told you facts about myself and my success with women you just wouldn't believe it.
>>28445437
Speak for yourself faggot. I never wanted to connect to my peers because they were fucking stupid and sucked.
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>>28452628
>Changing the way you think costs nothing!
Not the guy you were replying to, but it's not like we don't want to change - it's hard when you're stuck in your ways.
>>28452595
It fucking is though.
All you need to do to fix your problems is read some self help books, maybe do some meditation/self hypnosis and you're good to go.
Ugly people have to spend countless hours in the gym and go under the knife in order to even stand a chance.
>>28452628
This is fucking bullshit.
Why does everyone seem to have that one friend who's 5'3, massively overweight with cystic acne who somehow manages to bang supermodels on the reg thanks to his alpha "personality".
It's just fucking nonsense man.
Go to any club/bar/social gathering. The guys who get the most pussy are all tall and attractive.
If you're attractive and can't get laid you're either mentally ill OR not as attractive as you thought. End of story.
>>28452670
>self help books
>meditation
>self hypnosis
Ok, you're not even trying now.
>>28446095
http://youtu.be/I0gXomy5Dxw
>>28452668
Trust me I know. I ended up in a stable relationship with a girl i was absolutely in love with, and then was confronted with her sudden death. I still haven't been able to move on.
It just pisses me off to see all these people complaining about their lack of success with women due to their looks or finances
>>28452733
>If you're attractive and can't get laid you're either mentally ill
Well, you kind of agreed with me there(sort of). If you have mental issues, then being good looking isn't gonna make up for it.
>>28452626
everyone is somewhere for a purpose. That doesn't mean that you can't try to talk to them.
I bet you see attractive women everyday in your life. If you're too scared to talk to them try to strike up simple conversations with other people first (grandmas, other guys etc)
>>28445437
low self esteem comes from insecurities, and insecurities come from being unattractive
>>28452808
or from growing up in a shitty environment
>>28452787
Then sort your fucking mental issues out. Jesus Christ how hard is it?
Social anxiety is cured with fucking alcohol. You know that beverage that you drink at social gatherings?
For fuck's sake, get therapy and pop pills if you have to.
>>28452733
Is despising and hating every single human a mental illness?
>>28452842
It's called misanthropy anon.
I don't know if it's a mental illness but, without wanting to sound edgy, I find myself subscribing to that ideology more and more with each passing day.
>>28452823
Definitely this.
If you grew up in poverty attractiveness isn't necessarily a plus, but rather a minus because everyone assumes you're arrogant and wealthy.
In poverty being an aggressive, amoral dick who enjoys the suffering of others is far more important.
>>28452733
He doesn't even have an alpha personality. Well not a dominant one anyway. Sure, these 'chads' are more likely to have success with women. Does that mean you can't? Absolutely not.
Most of this board consists of highly intelligent people who are complete failures. Meanwhile dumb guys and girls push through university with a better attitude and have greater success.
>>28452830
> Jesus Christ how hard is it?
Well, appareantly, it's real fucking simple. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Is it really this hard for normies to put two and two together? Yes, fucking obviously uglier people for the most part are going to get shit on more.
>>28445437
am i the only one who finds those squinty chad eyes unattractive
>>28452881
The more I read and know about humans and this world etc. the more I hate them and this is why I isolate myself. It's the best for them and for me. I just want to be left alone and forgotten by everyone. Not connecting to anyone. Not caring about anything. This is pure bliss and freedom.
Is this really that much to ask?
>>28452989
Except you really really crave the acceptance of other people.
And yes, I am projecting.
>>28452889
>In poverty being an aggressive, amoral dick who enjoys the suffering of others is far more important.
That' why we "rich" people, at least for yur poverty standards, are way beyond your league. We know how to be amoral dicks who enjoy the suffering of others, however we only do it when it's necessary.
Ok here's general advice how to better yourself:
- Make list of things you don't like about yourself and your life
- For each point of the list think of solutions to overcome or change that thing
- Work on the solutions everyday
It sounds obvious and stupid, i know. But this is the way to go. It's the way I did it.
If you write stuff like "am too short" which you apparently can't fix in any way, consider that this is just a proxy for another issue that you might have (namely insecurity concerning your appearance in this case), which can be fixed by other means
>>28452143
>Act like a rational human being and don't hold weird grudges against an entire gender
>Act completely normal in public, can make male friends completely fine
>Moderate to below average face, not so muscular
>no gf
Wow, i guess i just didn't BE MYSELF
yeah, well, if you're attractive there will be people who will want to be your friends as long as you're even just a tiny bit interesting, so loneliness isn't usually a problem unless you're actually schizoid or autistic or whatever, in which case you just have lots of trouble connecting with people regardless of everything
I'd also say that having mental illness can make people less likely to be good at self-care, meaning they might have more skin problems, be unhygienic, not wear makeup, maybe even not brush their teeth. Because they aren't able to adopt that routine because they have mental issues.
Oh, also, pretty girls sometimes might be more likely to have received abuse and molestation, which can fuck them up later to a degree.
>>28453026
I crave their hatred because it gives me the illusion that I don't crave their acceptance.
It's easier being hated than being pitied. A lot easier.
>>28452989
Yep apparently it is.
Apparently you're supposed to "contribute" to this fucking society that you want no part in by slaving away 5 days a week until you're old and the govt decides to give you just enough money to survive on until you wither away and die.
Just fuck this life man. No wonder people go and join ISIS.
Why do I need to learn a manual on how talk to women or how to be around them?
I can't believe it has to be that way. Why can't I just be myself and that's it?
>>28453036
You weren't raised by a single mother anon. It's hell on earth and the fucking reason why I'm here and why I despise women.
At least you sheltered fucks who grew up with a dad and sieblings always had enough stuff didn't witness the true, ugly side of women.
Women are devoid of anything meaningful and solid anon. They will never, ever sacrifice something or go out of their comfort zone for something they "love". Maybe for a million they'll do that. Women don't love men. They love the privileges associated with being with a man. We might as well be mindless robots who shit money and have dildos as dicks. They wouldn't care.
>>28453179
You can if you're attractive.
Otherwise you better start working on your personality.
>>28445437
>Have you noticed people with social anxiety, low self esteem, problems connecting to peers socially and other problems are always unattractive? Is that why they're like that in the first place?
Basically yes. Negative reinforcement since literally birth (a baby receives a personality/outlook on life in the very first few months or years of life, forgot, depending on how ugly it is and how people react to it)
>>28453207
Why do I need to work on my personality?
>>28453079
I don't even ask much. Just enough so I don't starve and the Internet. That's it. How hard can it be to supply people like me these basic necessities?
Why does nobody guarantee our existence which is not our fault, even after so many centuries of technological progress? Having to work just so you can exist is sick.
And I highly doubt that nobody would work if everyone received a little bit of goods to stay alive. Most people still want recognition, luxuries etc... but I don't. I want just to be left fucking alone, nothing else.
