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Daily reminder That Jesus Christ loves you and only wants the best for you.

Remember,

If you want to listen to GOD, read his word.

If you want GOD to listen to you, pray to him and pray regularly.

And if you want to experience GOD's love and graciousness, spend time with his people.

https://youtu.be/B-0oQrmFSwQ

How is your walk of faith going robots?
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>>28435713
i'm an honest man usually

faith requires honesty

to be honest in my faith i must honestly believe

to honestly believe i cannot just tell myself to begin to believe

do you see how i cannot have faith
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i mean there are people that believe and have this headmate that gives them warmth, comfort, strength and everything else but somewhere along the way they found something they could deny, that enabled their faith

i do not have that

i can't believe

a personal desire for warmth, comfort, strength, doesn't mean I can just kid myself into believing in something better it doesn't work that way fuck
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Well Odin and Thor have blessed my home town with rain for the past few days. Which means my honourable actions have been honourable.

I will be hosting a feast with a few of my friends so that we can all fight in a tournament and eat upon the flesh of the hunted animals.

Translation: Pretending to be a pagan because Vikings are kewl
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>>28435773
THAT THEY COOULDNT" DENY I MEAN
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praise jesus for he will surely save my soul


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDZf4A9X3W0
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>>28435741
Look around you, anon. Look at all the things that you have been blessed with.

Look at all the beautiful things on this planet, the vastness of it all.

How can you sit there and tell me that all of that you have and everything that we have now is by coincidence?

God loves you and he has salvation and a better life waiting for you. It's the free gift of life that Jesus Christ offered to us but only on the condition that you follow him with all your heart and mind.
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>>28435713
I believe but I can't stop watching porn, I try and try but it just makes it more tempting
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>>28435713
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Just remember Jesus was an alpha chad fucking Mary Magdalene and had many friends.

Satan was a robot.
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>>28435897
It's ok anon. Forgive yourself. It's the exact reason Jesus Christ died for you, so that you don't have to feel guilty.

As long as you're aware that what you're doing is sin. We all have Sin to fight. Nobody is perfect, only Jesus Christ was. If you feel bad, don't be, just think of him suffering on the cross.
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Why is faith a virtue?
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>>28435713
>caring about ancient kike religions
>caring about god
>not just reading about jesus and trying to live by his example
step it up guys
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I'm just too much of a robot to go to church I know they accept anyone but still I think they will judge me when I go there
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>>28435980
Because it is what the Lord demands, and it is written several times in the bible.

2 Corinthians 5:7-10

>For we live by faith, not by sight.

>We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

>So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it.

>For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

http://www.gotquestions.org/walk-by-faith-not-by-sight.html
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>>28436041
Why do you think they will judge you anon?

Tell me.
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>>28435713
Go back to /pol/

Originaliano.
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>>28436098
That doesn't really answer my question. Your response is far too circular.
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>>28435996
It's extremely hard to follow in his footsteps without support from others anon. You underestimate how difficult the Christian actually is.

community is central to the Christian faith. It's a walk of faith you must take with others.
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>>28436208
Christian walk*
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>>28435713
Why the fuck would I even be a Christian when I have no hope of living a life anything like Jesus? God's standard is way too fucking high, I've read Acts, I've read about all the shit you need to do to get into heaven, I remember the passage where God kills the man for lying about selling his house. Fuck all that shit I'd rather die and go to Hell than be involved in this nonsense, it makes no sense that being a Christian should result in a shittier life all around if it's the true faith, it makes no sense that the best possible result in life is to be completely unaware of Christianity, thus getting into heaven by default.
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>>28436196
Circular logic is the only thing religionfags have to defend their beliefs.
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>>28436268
>>>28435713 (OP) (You)
>Why the fuck would I even be a Christian when I have no hope of living a life anything like Jesus? God's standard is way too fucking high, I've read Acts, I've read about all the shit you need to do to get into heaven, I remember the passage where God kills the man for lying about selling his house.

That's the catholic way of thinking anon. salvation is already given to you, the free gift of eternal life.

But just because it is free doesn't mean there aren't conditions involved. For example if you won a prize, but there were conditions that you had to travel somewhere to claim the prize. Otherwise its as worth as much to you as it is to me (that neither of us have it).

The conditions of salvation is simple. Believe in Jesus Christ and follow him to the end.

You cannot lose your salvation. If your faith died off at any point, then it means you never really had it to begin with.

God bless.
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>>28436414
>Believe in Jesus Christ and follow him to the end.
Yeah "follow him" as in try to live up to an impossible standard.

And my point still stands about it not making any sense that someone who has no knowledge of Jesus at all gets guaranteed salvation while people who actually know the supposed truth of the world are the ones who are punished, what the fuck backwards shit is that? Some jungle tribe nigger in Papua New Guinea gets guaranteed salvation and I don't because I know the truth and he doesn't?
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Since we're virgins. Does jesus love us more?

Why have so many of us be losers.
All we want is to be winners.

Chads dnt go to church and they are mean and have sex before marriage they are very unchristian if you will.

So pray and ask him us for that cus he hates as and wont answer our prayers.
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>>28436477
Many of the prophets remained virgins and never married.
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>>28436461
It is impossible. I'm not disagreeing with you. But is not about living up to the standard but trying with all your heart and he will reward you with prosperity and bless you.

Nobody can live up to the standard of Jesus Christ.

I don't know what happens to those that have never heard of the word. I am not God so you will have to ask him in the afterlife.
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>>28436477
Jesus doesn't care about virginity so much as loyalty.

He let a prostitute kiss his feet, because he saw new found loyalty in her. Virgin or non virgin, if your heart is in the right place and you know what is wrong and right, that is all that matters.
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>>28436579
Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute.
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>>28436477
>Why have so many of us be losers.
>All we want is to be winners.
>Chads dnt go to church and they are mean and have sex before marriage they are very unchristian if you will.

Don't worry about Chad. You are not him. You have your own life with different circumstances anon. By wanting to be a winner, you're breaking the first commandment which is idolising something else above GOD. None of that will give you everlasting satisfaction in life except the Lord.

So go out there, join a church community, get involved, increase your knowledge of the word and work on yourself to glorify God, and he will reward you with what you wish for in life in due time.

>So pray and ask him us for that cus he hates as and wont answer

Maybe he led you to this thread for this very reason.
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>>28436554
>I don't know what happens to those that have never heard of the word
This is a problem though.

If people who have never heard about Christianity get guaranteed salvation then God is actively punishing those who know the truth, or at least putting them at a severe disadvantage. In this case it would be a viable way to save people by completely destroying all traces of Christianity entirely so everyone can get into heaven by pleading ignorance.

If people who have never heard about Christianity go to Hell then God is a fucking asshole because those people literally had no chance to be saved anyway.

And if those people who know nothing of Christianity are judged on individual merit then there is literally no need for any religion at all, there is zero need for the gospel if you can get into heaven without it, by just being some ambiguous "good person". This again disadvantages those who know the truth because they need to follow a strict rulebook and others don't because they simply have not been given a rulebook at all.

Every single outcome is illogical, every single outcome suggests that there either is no Hell or Christianity as a whole is completely wrong or completely irrelevant even if it is true.

This is just rudimentary logic here.
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>>28436636
Luke 7:38
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>>28435713
>mfw even if I believed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RGR4SFOimlk
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When the only hope for humanity is through the collective hive mind of 4chan you know that judgement day is coming.

6/6/16 - 7/7/17
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>>28436750
Makes no mention of her being a prostitute. She just had demons.
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>>28436414
>You cannot lose your salvation. If your faith died off at any point, then it means you never really had it to begin with.

Powerful quote. Thank you anon
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>>28436749


The power of the divine exceeds all of human comprehension.
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>>28436819
Some versions of the bible call her a prostitute, others call her a sinful woman/person.
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>>28436852
>God works in mysterious ways
Come the fuck on, man. Even you must understand what a fucking cop-out answer that is.
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>>28436908


Do you want to have a God that watches you masturbate on the toilet bowl after you take a shit?
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>>28436966
What about a God that doesn't care about that and understands your failings?
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>>28436852
Well I'm sure he'll be able to "comprehend" my completely logical disbelief in him and let me into heaven after I die, it's the least he could do for completely evading all human rationality and indirectly leading me into sin for being so fucking impossible to comprehend.

Why even invent logic when you don't even use it? Why limit human consciousness to the point where God's entire existence is illogical upon even the briefest examination, then DEMAND man accept his existence?

If God exists he is infinitely more kind than that, I think you might in fact be worshiping the devil.
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>>28436966
I don't want to have a god, period. Especially not the one in the Bible.
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>>28436908
Noone on this planet could probably give you the answer you're looking for anon.

But I do know that God doesn't owe anyone on this planet anything. He doesn't owe you an answer, even though he might give it you one day though something.

But based off his word, it is a walk by faith and not by sight. Trust first and you will see the outcome, that is his promise.
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>>28437027
If God is such a colossal cunt then I will never enter heaven no matter what, because I hate him. Even if I were to follow all his rules my resentment for the fact that he makes me jump through all the hoops in the first place will condemn me to hell.
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>>28437006
It's like you didn't even read his answer. He said that salvation isn't something you can lose out on. It's a prize guaranteed by the death of Jesus Christ. Therefore it isn't easier for those who did not know about it. What he's saying is that for life on earth only the walk of faith will give you the fulfilling life you desire, the community, faith and hope from God will make you happy on earth.
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>>28437011
Why not anon? Are you angry at him for the circumstances that you're in right now?

Or do you wish to seem more enlightened by your intelligence and above all religiousfags?

Because if you DON'T want to believe in God, it means you've given it some thought at some point.

I mean Einstein believed in God, but because he realised the complexity of existence and thought to Himself there's no way all of this is a coincidence.
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>>28437083
If everyone is saved then that's great, I'm going to heaven regardless of my lifestyle.

But that's not the case, you are saved if you both believe in and follow Jesus Christ as the son of God, meaning you need to follow his rules, meaning it is not a "free gift" and I need to make sacrifices such as masturbation or whatever in order to enter heaven, or at least "honestly and truly feel really bad about it and ask for forgiveness" which is impossible for me because I don't think masturbation is wrong at all and is actually healthy in moderation.
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>>28436995

Failings is determined by the individual, and it's all subjective. Search deep within the context of your "failure" to revel in the truth and power of the situation you were blinded in for whatever reasons and you'll pull a silver lining of wisdom and virture you were to preoccupied by other damp thought processes to see

>>28437080
In the overencompassing reaches of a man made system, the way your human system works is that someone has to suffer for another person to feel pleasure. And to cause you pleasure would come at the price of making someone else suffer. And to interfere with that goes against a divine moral compass. Divine intervention happens if the cost of helping you isn't going to cause anyone else suffering. So if you need to call upon a higher power, dwell upon your request and configure out if it won't cause another to suffer. And it can never be for yourself. It only works if the request is made for somebody else.


Perhaps the validity of a Gods existence is too scary of a thought for a typical human being to comprehend. Perhaps there will be a massive instant death syndrome all around the world to the people that couldn't revel in the light. And no loving God would want to cause that even if it's at the price of the suffering there is right now. Perhaps so, but in the end the truth shall Seth us all free.
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>>28437144
There's nowhere written in the bible that masturbation is actually a sin and wrong anon.

It's more about lust, self control and purity.

Looking at porn is wrong because you're lusting after the flesh with your eyes.

Plus there's also a crapload of other harmful stuff involved with looking at porn that's bad either way.
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>>28437101

>I mean Einstein believed in God, but because he realised the complexity of existence and thought to Himself there's no way all of this is a coincidence.

Einstein was a pantheist if not an atheist.

He never said he believed in Jehovah or Jesus as the Christ.
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>>28437101
I never really believed in God. And of course I put some fucking thought into it. I realized that I don't want to self-flagellate, emasculate myself, and repress what makes me human to look good in the eyes of an angry, illogical, vindictive, murderous cunt of a god so I get a chance to live in his concentration camp for the rest of eternity. So no, I don't believe in god and see absolutely no reason to.
You know, Einstein didn't believe in the quantum field. But he was wrong about that, just like he was wrong about god.
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>>28437309
>I never really believed in God. And of course I put some fucking thought into it. I realized that I don't want to self-flagellate, emasculate myself, and repress what makes me human to look good in the eyes of an angry, illogical, vindictive, murderous cunt of a god so I get a chance to live in his concentration camp for the rest of eternity.

You call him all that yet you're not appreciating or even acknowledging all that he's given to you and blessed you with.

God can't control what people do to other people anon. He is sovereign but it doesn't mean we're not responsible for our actions.


>So no, I don't believe in god and see absolutely no reason to.

It's ok, many people turn to God when life is so hard that they have nowhere else to turn to. I was the same myself.
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>>28437403
Oh are you a real christian?

Tell us all how you were born again.
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>>28437309


You know what your biggest problem is?

You spend too much time absorbing and conditioning yourself in darkness that deep down inside the notion of being good seems silly to you, and the notion of a God existence makes you scared deep down. You can't say your not demasculated since you have to feign masculinity by descrating a God to feel a sense of self. Which is just conditioning of an edgy memelord that thrives in a virtual cave instead of a real world.
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>>28435713
I went to church the first time in months yesterday. I don't know if I can say I belive or not. It's a beautiful thing to belive in, but it doesn't make any logical sense. The fact is, at the end of the day it was made up by humans. Suppose I lived a life where I was never exposed to Christianity. I would have surely never came up with the idea independently, if anything I'd have made up my own belief system, my own superstitions, entirely unique. I think that maybe the truth is something else, something much less based on the human experience, something more foreign, something where mankind isn't the center of it all. It's a bit arrogant, to belive out of the vast universe, we're somehow so special.

At the same time, I still see what seems like evil happening in the world. And if satan is real, that means GOD must be. If there is evil, surely there is good.

I also wonder if I have the character to even follow the word. Yes we're all sinners, but if you truly repent, you must actively and always actually seek to improve, you must always testify and spread the word of GOD. You have to openly profess your faith in Jesus, and that seems so far out of my personality. If you are ashamed of him, when the day of judgement comes, he won't know you. You wouldn't claim him then, now he won't claim you.

And then there's the issue of the underlying fear that is the real motivation. Is it really out of love for GOD? Or is it just fear of eternal suffering and damnation? If there was no threat of being thrown into a lake of fire and brimstone, would I still feel any real conviction or motivation to find faith?
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>>28435713

I don't want to be part of a cult whose leader gives a shit whether I write his name in caps, faggot
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>>28437403
It's not about what "he's given me." It's about what he mandates. I am punished and expected to make up for a crime I didn't commit by people I've never even met; all because I was born.
And it's bullshit to suggest that God is absolved of guilt because he gave us free-will. His action of instilling free-will opened up the door for evil and should be held responsible for it. It's his fault we're evil.
>>28437482
The concept of good isn't silly to me. What's silly to me is how people can look at all the suffering and evil taking place and say "Yes. I support this. The being that is responsible for this is worthy of my praise. I endorse this suffering."
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>>28437702
That's a cultures creation, not gods.
>>28437666
Same here. I used to go to this church just for observing the authenticity of the experience and tasty food, but I just can't convince myself.
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>>28437666
It's ok to have doubts anon. It's normal even the most hardcore Christians have doubts sometimes.

Don't see if as if you don't believe you shouldn't be there.

Just get to know Jesus. Learn more about the man and you will see what an amazing guy he is.

It'll come to a point where you'll understand enough and will want to follow him. And to know him is want to know him more.
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>>28437991
I like how down to earth he could be and how he partied. Do you think drinking gave him a buzz considering he is 100% man, but also God? I assume the god part would kind of negate it.
What's your favorite depiction? I like Willem dafos.
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>>28435713
The fact remains, FAITH is nothing more than Hope... And your hope for a false sense of reassurance indicates an inner void weakness you have been conditioned to fill with a hackneyed, scientifically impossible, delusional fairy tale... This Bizzare belief in an externalized omniscient entity who masterfully and created and controls the universe around you is actually nothing more then textbook DSM-5 clinical definition of schizoaffective disorder, a dissociative organic disorder...

Is this is true of all religions worldwide, however it is that Beyond any shadow of a doubt that Christianity is a one of the most radically unfounded and unknowledgeable, guilt-based, insane religions to ever be shoved it down anyone's throat, and only represents approximately 11% of The Full Market Share of all such religions... add to that the fact is that Christianity is blatantly stolen from the Sumerians, yet modified and bastardized to meet the self-serving needs of male Anglo Saxons and has had all original extraterrestrial mentions replaced with magical thoughts and elaborate deceptions hidden in Parable form..

In summary, you are an idiot
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>>28438055
Who are you trying to convince man? It's like you don't even want to have a dialogue. I get some believers can be abrasive, but look at where we are. If we're all khv, why not at least give each other the common courtesy normalfags don't.
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>>28435713
>Daily reminder That Jesus Christ loves you and only wants the best for you.
>You have heard it said that He loved Jacob but He hated Esau

Never once in the bible does it say all humans are loved by God. It actually says only a few special humans are loved by him.

Also fuck off with christcuckery.This is a Burmese waterpaint pornography imageboard
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>>28438148
Where does it say that? I remember a passage about some will say they are children of God and he will say he never knew them, but that's not the same as love.
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If God wanted us to be happy, would he condone suicide in even the worst case?
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God does not love you.

God only seeks to have his creations worship him and do his bidding. He wont ever help you out in return. He is a selfish god. He does not care at all about you. He will destroy you on a whim.

God is also a contradiction and does not exist.

Lucifer is Satan, Satan means the Challenger. Lucifer exists to challenge mortals with temptation. Temptations of wanting to not do all they were told to do by God. As proof of the free will God supposedly given us. The Bible tells us that Lucifer hated us. But in reality, he does not care and is only doing his job given to him by God.

God's brightest star, and favorite Arch Angel did not throw a hissy fit at God, nor did he hate humans. He did God's will, to become the challenger to allow humans to have a choice.

God and Satan, and any other Angels do not exist. It is all a fairy tale, like Santa Clause to keep the masses good to each other for their own selfish reasons of being rewarded in the after life. But there is no after life.

You will cease to exist.

Be friendly with your neighbors and cousins, just because. Not because of a made up deity that said so, or because you were told that happiness awaits after death.

Your happiness and everyones happiness is right now. Not later. So be kind and compassionate to yourself and others, make their days on this world meaningful, and have that make your days mean all the more.

God is a story. But yours is not.
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>>28438611


You need help, schizophrenia is a serious illness and you should seek medical attention immediately.

>>28438417
No, but suicide won't be held against you

>>28438148
God shows love to the ones that can reciprocate the love back since the ones that hate cut him off completely.
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>>28435713
gtfo stupid christian fagget
gtfo retard
kys
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>mfw some people are robots are robots because they were too devout in their religion and therefore made no friends

This could have me. Thank the lord for allowing me not to believe in him.
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>>28438800
You should look up words before you use them, you bible nut.

Because it applies to anyone who is religious and hears things. You know, those psychos that make cults and those cults mass suicide together. Religion is a cult.
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I find it so hard to believe that an entity created all of this.
I find it so hard to believe that this entity is constantly watching us and maybe judging us. It's complicated to me to understand that when you die, your soul goes somewhere beyond our dreams.
I'd love to believe in him but a part of me feels i'd be lying to myself.
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>>28439097
There is absolutely no reason to believe.

Back in the stone age, perhaps, when disease and famine were out of most civilizations control.

But now we understand so much more, like we now know there was never a God. And we did not need a God.

God doesn't exist in the slightest.
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>>28438611
Make good because it's the correct thing to do, not for the satisfaction of knowing that you'll be rewarded.
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>>28438932

God does not love you.
>Talking like you have evidence
God only seeks to have his creations worship him and do his bidding.
>and his bidding is?....
He wont ever help you out in return. He is a selfish god. He does not care at all about you. He will destroy you on a whim.
>Claims based off of a lack of evidence

God is also a contradiction and does not exist.
>Projecting how you just contradicted your first few statements
Lucifer is Satan, Satan means the Challenger.
>No rationale functioning human being would ever string along this pattern of words.
Lucifer exists to challenge mortals with temptation. Temptations of wanting to not do all they were told to do by God. As proof of the free will God supposedly given us. The Bible tells us that Lucifer hated us. But in reality, he does not care and is only doing his job given to him by God.
> A stung along sentence contradicting your contradiction with poor verbiage indicating you are indeed mentally ill

God's brightest star, and favorite Arch Angel did not throw a hissy fit at God, nor did he hate humans. He did God's will, to become the challenger to allow humans to have a choice.
>Poor use of language, which is associated with schizophrenia or autism
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>>28439209

God and Satan, and any other Angels do not exist. It is all a fairy tale, like Santa Clause to keep the masses good to each other for their own selfish reasons of being rewarded in the after life. But there is no after life.
>2 different narratives, one talking about god as you believe in him, and onr basically injecting that you do not believe, but this association of speech and lack of consistent narrative of yours indicates your stream of consciousness and confusing and unclear
You will cease to exist.

Be friendly with your neighbors and cousins, just because. Not because of a made up deity that said so, or because you were told that happiness awaits after death.
>Agreed
Your happiness and everyones happiness is right now. Not later. So be kind and compassionate to yourself and others, make their days on this world meaningful, and have that make your days mean all the more.
>At least your not an evil piece of shit
God is a story. But yours is not.
>latter statement has no cohesion to former


Yeah you have schizophrenia lad. Get check before you get rekt

>>28438932
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>>28439209
>>28439224
You have never read the Old Testament, have you?
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>>28439097


When you dream your entire control of your body shuts down and is rewired to recreate simulated 3dimensional images using the DMT in your head, which is the chemical that gets released right before you die.

And yet in itself the dreams you have are very different, to anyone elses.

It takes energy to dream, and the more energy you have in you before you sleep the more vivid you dream.

And what your dreams look like is an absorption of all the things you stimulize yourself without any filtered control that you normally have when your awake.

What dictates the randomized dream sequences and what is created is out of your concious control.

Yet on some nights you manage to gain a bit of concious control to experience a lucid and vivid dream.

But the biggest question is, what does Dreaming have anything to do with God?

-Keeping in mind that DMT is used and is released before we die
-Keeping in mind that energy never dies and is always lingering around
-Keeping in mind that energy is being used to dream/ and to heal, and to repair itself.

Dreams are 3D simulations that your mind creates based off what you absorb as your body repairs itself.

DMT is released as your body heals itself, DMT is also released as you die.

But what does it all add up too? And what does this have to do with God? Or even from an evolutionary standpoint.


Well for starters the process of dying is peaceful as the adrenaline and DMT in your mind shields you from the pain.
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>>28435967
What the fuck are you talkin bout cocksuckah jesus was walkin the streets of Nazareth slingin dick like a madman. Go fuck your mother
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>>28439381


And associating a mathematical lense, everything in this universe is a replication of something, called fractals.

And on a quantum level, particles are dictated if it's being observed or not.

The same way that people change depending on if they're being observed or not, or better yet, who they are being observed by.

And applying it on much grander scale , what can it mean that if particles change, and people change by observation, on a much grander scale through a mathematical lense that the macro is a replication of the micro.

DMT trips fueling our dreams, our body's repairing, while tripping on our own DMT, while we being figments of energy, and energy never dies, to particles changing direction from concious observation and all that jazz add up will only lead to more questions that only a God can answer.
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>>28439475


But what is the underlying principle that will unify all these things mentioned, avoiding any theistic influences. Avoiding any spiritual beliefs. And the logical conclusion is that the physical laws that govern this universe are contradictory in nature, yet meticulously designed.
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Answer me this,

>>28438607

Why did God decide that no woman would touch me?
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I've been feeling so lost lately. This restored me.
https://youtu.be/DbgfQ48hWuY
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>>28439522

Further in the rabbit hole

But if there was an alpha to the omega, what was the key component in the conceptualization of the universe that dictated what was possible and what is impossible. Where did the physical laws of a conceptual nothingness that amassed into the entire overarching scope of this universe come from? Let alone the ingredient that gives particles of light and energy mass?

If you can see in math, math is the tool human beings made into sending and detecting and understanding the universe while encoding it in scientific terminology.

Was it a discovery or an invention?
And the answer is both. We discovered an invention and we invented a discovery.

And as math developed so did the understanding of this universe.
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>>28435713
>https://youtu.be/B-0oQrmFSwQ
Literally the worst thing I've heard all day.
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>>28439533


Cause you decided to deem yourself untouchable based off of the made up opinions and judgements of a being that has a limited perception.
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>>28439381
>>28439475

this dmt thing is completely wrong, there is absolutely no evidence to show that DMT is released when you die or when you are asleep, it was just a wild guess by some hippie asshole.

The reason why you see shit when you are dying is because of excessive glutamate released from dying cells in your brain.

And if your brain did release dmt when you slept, why don't you trip balls every time when you wake up from a dream. It just doesn't make any sense.

It also never reaches biologically active levels in the brain as it is just a metabolite from other shit that is active.
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>>28439598


But as more things were discovered and invented, the more confusing the questions have gotten with fully trying to understand this universe.

And early civilizations tried rationalizing the purpose of life by worshipping their own dieties.

And billions of people who asked and pondered about the very essence of existence , some even trying to logically fit it together without the need of a simply made solution, a God.

But as the years went by, so did the development of science, and so did the discovery of questions that haven't amassed to concrete answers, and solutions.

But with observing that everything eventually dies in this universe, and how tied in our mathamatics has developed with understanding the very core of nature, then the abstraction of infinity can not exsist since we all die and eventually become zero agian, a state of nothingness.
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>>28439622
I WANT A GF GIVE ME A GF WHY DO SCUMBAGS GET GFS AND NOT ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>28439632

Not only is the drug the most rare to acquire, but it is also the most common drug. Basically, everytime you go to sleep, a part of your brain produces this chemical and the product that we endure is our dreams. DMT is the drug which causes your dreams at night.
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>>28435713
Amen bruther in Christ
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>>28439700

You'll get a girlfriend. A girl wants a man that they can feel comfortable with behaving and feeling like a kid again.
Essentially taking up an adopted father role. If you can maintain the responsibilities and acting like a proper father figure, all women will be sleeping in your mucousy protolife discharge
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>>28439689


But to go off the logical conclusion that the notion of infinity cannot exsist since it has no place in nature, and given how accurate the tool of mathamatics has been in discovering and measuring the very essence of nature.
Then it leads into this next logical conclusion.

Our very own mathamatics is powerful, a tool that defies the very core of nature, ceasing to come to an end.
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>>28439381
>>28439475
>>28439522
>>28439598
This is a very interesting reply, but despite of that it fails to answer my question: How can I truly believe and trust God if deep inside of me I feel my faith it's not honest? I can just go and pray everyday but if I'm not honest about it then there's no point in keep going.
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>>28439798


And if our abstract mathamatics can contradict nature,

Then our very own thinking can contradict nature with the help of mathamatics.

And in nature we have no physical proof of a God existencing,
But being able to use math to contradict the existence of nature as well as to define it,
And also keeping in check that everything is a replication of something much smaller that in itself.

And since being able to contradict nature is something only a God is capable of, and the very notion of infinity is a contradiction of nature in itself. But yet we are able to use a system that's contradictory to measure and understand nature.

And since this contradictory tool of ours was a discovery and an invention

And since everything in this universe is a replicated fractal made up of smaller particles and patterns creating something larger in itself.

And since the very notion of God has been unifying the human race since the dawn of civilization.

And yet the human race has developed something that contradicts both God and nature.
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>>28436579
>if your heart is in the right place and you know what is wrong and right, that is all that matters
It's way easier to not have a tormented heart when you didn't suffer much and got to enjoy the pleasures of this world.

See buddha. Or whatever other religious Chad. Who got to experience all the food sex drugs they wanted and THEN turned around. Often without experiencing disease or whatever serious problem.>>28436636
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>>28439895


Therefore the human mind is therefore capable of contradicting the very core of our physical nature.

And what we observe and select to observe has power in itself on a quantum realm and even in our daily lives.

Therefore the very power of your thought and decision to observe has ripple effects that alter the physical universe without you being concious since you can't see on a quantum plane of existence.


The same way you can't see God
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Okay you guys I was raised Catholic, never really TRULY had faith, once encountering the possibility of my faith being wrong, my desire to be involved in the church fizzled out. Granted, it was post-vatican II mass, so it was very bland and lifeless, but still- I had no huge dramatic falling out or anything like that. It was quite simply like "Oh, well guess God isn't real then".

I went through a short phase of atheism from 8th grade to throughout the start of highschool, then dabbled in different spiritual ideas, such as mysticism, Buddhism, Magick, etc. Many of these paths were enticing, and it in hindsight I see I was trying to fill the "God sized hole" in my heart, as Augustine would say. These resonated with me better because they were living traditions, whereas Christianity today has become lifeless and without spiritual fruit. About three years ago I began researching Christianity again and found many things I liked about it. However, one thing soon became clear that turned me away.

This thing was that all I admired about Christianity was not exclusive to Christianity. Much of the philosophy inherent in the church and theology was borrowed from the Greeks, who shaped the foundations of the earliest churches. My favorite feast days were not exclusive to the Christian faith, they were just christianized pagan holidays. May paganism was right for me? Afterall, all I like about Christianity wasn't actually christian anyways. But then I see these edgy pagans who disown Christianity, completely ignorant to how it shaped their cultures and societies and even preserved their own traditions.

Lesson I learned: Only someone with the mental capacities to dialectically approach the stance of atheism and then somehow reason their way back to recognizing the higher truth beyond the abstract of God will be able to grasp Christianity, or any religious path for that matter. I consider myself more or less of having a pagan "outlook".
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Man says: Fuck me and I'll blow you
God says: Blow me and I'll fuck you
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>>28439955

Climbed back up and into the rabbit hole we go again.


>>28439955


So to take these logical conclusions and to fit in all back in with the aformentioned, let's see if there are more logical conclusions we can make.

Logical conclusions :
Therefore the human mind is therefore capable of contradicting the very core of our physical nature.

And what we observe and select to observe has power in itself on a quantum realm and even in our daily lives.

Therefore the very power of your thought and decision to observe has ripple effects that alter the physical universe without you being concious since you can't see on a quantum plane of existence.


The same way you can't see God

When you dream your entire control of your body shuts down and is rewired to recreate simulated 3dimensional images using the DMT in your head, which is the chemical that gets released right before you die.
>So DMT must be a particle found all throughout the universe, and the way clusters and galaxies look are similar to the neural mapping of a human brain. Which can perhaps mean that the universe is a giant brain.
And yet in itself the dreams you have are very different, to anyone elses.
>If the universe is a giant brain, then there must be other brains, alluding to a multi verse of different brains, perhaps our own brains are a universe inhabiting different worlds so small that no lense can see.
It takes energy to dream, and the more energy you have in you before you sleep the more vivid you dream.
>the perception of time is relative to the mass and understanding of information.
So if time is relative to information, then that means everything in this universe that experiences time physically or mentally has information encoded to it
And what your dreams look like is an absorption of all the things you stimulize yourself without any filtered control that you normally have when your awake.
>Chaos Theory
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>>28440332

What dictates the randomized dream sequences and what is created is out of your concious control.
>The same way nature is all about cause and effect >>> dreams have a cause and effect
Yet on some nights you manage to gain a bit of concious control to experience a lucid and vivid dream.
>We becoming in control of our dream simulations, with unlimited control
But the biggest question is, what does Dreaming have anything to do with God?
>If we have dream sequence with control, and this universe is wired similarly to a human being, and everything physical is encoded with information because of time, then the logical conclusion is, that the universe is the brain of another being
-Keeping in mind that DMT is used and is released before we die
>And is probably found commonly throughout the universe
-Keeping in mind that energy never dies and is always lingering around
>And what we wake up from our dreams a part of it carries back with us and has an effect on our daily lives. From a nightmare causing us a stressful morning to a light sleep causing us energy
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-Keeping in mind that energy is being used to dream/ and to heal, and to repair itself.
>And the universe is capable of healing and repairing itself, especially when mother nature is has been shown to heal through time
>Dreams are 3D simulations that your mind creates based off what you absorb as your body repairs itself.
>Therefore if we are to stick with the universe brain theory, the essence of nature is a simulation in itself, which is confirmed by how we can code our own universes with technology, and seeing how their is guidlines of physical nature made up of coding like the golden ratio.

DMT is released as your body heals itself, DMT is also released as you die.
>If you call DMT dream juice, then you can say that dream juice is found throughout the universe. And altering the labeling of the chemical changes the mental perception of it, shifting our conciousness and observing of it.

But what does it all add up too?
>The universe being a giant brain of some entity, doesn't mean it's a God by our definition, could be a 4th dimensional mexican
And what does this have to do with God?
>God exsisting makes sense from a logical standpoint
Or even from an evolutionary standpoint.
>We have dream juice and dream juice is everywhere. Anything animate or inanimate is encoded with information. Time is relative to mass and information. Being an animal is stressful and scary because an animal is in constant survival mode and has to learn information to pick up on in order to survive, meaning all animals are self aware but to varying degrees. Animals that are protected like turtles with their shells and elephants with their live longer then an average cat/dog.

Well for starters the process of dying is peaceful as the adrenaline and DMT in your mind shields you from the pain.
>Dream Juice and natural steroids make dying an intense and orgasmic experience
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