Who /bernie sanders/ here?
No trump supporters allowed in this thread, only Bernie Supporters
>>28382573
He's already mathematically disqualified anon.
>>28382573
McAfee 2016!
>>28382573
>Who /bernie sanders/ here?
I support Trump
>>28382573
I stand for the light!
Get back you foul creature!
Sorry, I'm not that much of a degenerate.
As a person capable of taking in information and using it to form educated opinions, I have found myself to be feeling the Bern.
That being said, Jill Stein is a much better option. Too bad third parties don't have a chance this year.
>>28383688
Jesus Christ what a bunch of cUcks Reddit is.
Fuck off commie, he lost.
I hope he wins so someone will regulate the US banking system and prevent it, once again, tanking the entire western world's economy.
who here /feelsthebern/?
>>28383841
I feel it and will still vote for him even if his chances are low. My only problem is his policies while honest are about as substantial or detailed as Trump's bullshit, he speaks big but I don't know how much of that he'd.be able.to actialy deliver on.
>>28383817
>"bum" until he's forty
>suddenly becomes mayor
hmmm, I'd wager there's some detail missing from that image, wouldn't you?
>>28382573
I like Berniefor his economic policies, but how is not the right time for him. It may never be the right time for him, tbqh.but not him getting cucked by BLM
Edgy faggots who have no idea how economics works hate him because they were brainwashed as kids by trickle-down Chicago Boys meme economics thanks to Regan. Look at any third world shithole on the planet and how wealth is distributed, and then look at the direction America is going in.
Either way, I'm not having kids so they won't have to deal with the fallout either way. Whoever wins at least it will be entertaining.
Some of us here actually work for what we make. Fuck leeching off the government.
>>28383908
you seem like a really cool guy, anon.
Thanks for the cute snake image.
>>28382573
What about the politically realistic Hilary Clinton supporters? are we allowed?
>>28383770
>educated opinions
>bernie sanders
This is powerful bait.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
I honestly think we're fucked either way.
Or do you honestly think anything would change no matter who wins?
In every scenario the other side would do literally anything in their power so that POTUS can't do shit.
>Trump wins, democrats do everything to stop him from achieving anything
>Clinton wins, republicans do everything to stop her from achieving anything
>Sanders (magically) wins, republicans (and most likely lobbyists) do everything to stop him from achieving anything
>>28382573
>No trump supporters allowed in this thread
Just like a berniefag, can't accept the fact that there are people with other opinions.
>>28383908
Why is there so much bait in this thread?
Bernie Sanders economic policies might as well be a child's fantasies.
>>28384055
It's because this is a thread about politicians. Not reality stars.
Trump has no political experience. He has never written or introduced legislature. He has never held office anywhere.
>>28384114
Rather have a normal person in office than a politician-for-hire. A socialist bus driver once told me "we need a bus driver for president". This is as close as we're gonna get.
>>28384044
>Trump wins, democrats do everything to stop him from achieving anything
In this scenario, it would be both Democrats and the GOP. McConnell's already stated that he would not participate with either Trump or his administration, I can't imagine the House feels any differently. Imagine the stagnancy they presented to Obama only intentionally and actively worse.
>>28384146
Yeah that's true. Maybe Trump will even have to deal with the most bullshit. Not even the republicans truly want him. But that only strengthens my point. No matter who's elected nothing will truly change for us.
>>28384136
Trump is not a normal person by any means. He's a wealthy celebrity. If you think his lifestyle is anywhere near the lifestyle of the people he claims to represent, you're completely unhinged.
>tfw my first name is sander
>>28384146
>>28384198
the GOP establishment doesn't want to work with him, but he's got a fuckload of support both in the government and in the common people
>>28384198
Not until we dismantle the Bilderbergers. /pol/ thinks our best shot at this, or the initial step we need to take, is by electing Trump, and that's really the pulse of this movement. It's not a Nationalist thing, it's not a conservative thing, it's whatever will kick Rockefeller and his friends in the nads the hardest. I honestly don't know enough about the practicality and repercussions of Trump's policies to know whether or not this will be effective, but what I do know is that the establishment will utilize everything in their power to stop it.
>>28384205
He started out by getting a small loan from his parents. If you don't think the normal person gets help from their parents, your parents were probably dicks.
First of all, as a small business owner, fuck this guy. He is like the impetus for the minimum wage increase proposals currently popular.
This debate is a sickness spreading across the nation.
As it stands, the minimum wage should be decreased, not increased!
My employees are lucky to be making $7.25 an hour, which they do NOT need!
Rent: $800/month for a one bedroom apartment/ 5 wage-earners = $160/month
Insurance: Unnecessary
Food: Can be got from the Salvation Army, the new trend "Dumpster Diving", or food stamps
They are all provided with a shirt and a pair of khakis for the company, they aren't above wearing their work uniform as their personal outfit. No money is needed for clothes.
All told $160 a month for rent per person/ 65 hours of work a week = $2.46 an hour
Adopt common sense reform! Lower the minimum wage + slash taxes on job creators = economic growth! This is why I support Trump, hes a businessman not a fucking politician
>>28384294
>small loan
That small loan from his parents was a million dollars. Serious question, do your parents have an extra million to loan out?
>>28384307
>Insurance: Unnecessary
Gotta love self-cucking americucks.
>>28384069
But that's not the point. His policies are a step in the right direction; a moderate, mixed-model economy. He'd never be able to accomplish everything he wants to while in office, and when the political pendulum swings in the other direction, he'll get replaced by a more right standing candidate that will balance him out.
There's a reason why the highest average standard of living is found in countries with low wealth inequality. America has skated by for decades by simply having a fuckton of wealth, but the pool of actively circulating money is quickly drying up because the wealthy have no real incentive to spend any of it.
It's the equivalent of blood pooling in the extremities. It's a very, very bad thing.
>>28384307
>as a small business owner
Stopped reading right there, get out Norman
>>28383733
I don't know who you are or where you come from, but I love you.
>>28384258
I honestly think that Trump will win, but I still doubt that he will have the chance to get any law passed that he will present just because
>Who made this? Trump? FUCK THAT LAW!
>>28384281
All the /pol/ shit aside. You can pretty much say that about every one of them. The "establishment" is honestly the democrats, the republicans and the whole government. And whichever candidate will win the establishment will fuck with him. Trump is just the best option to truly fuck with people because the leftists will go apeshit and the republicans will also go apeshit. Also I think that he will actually be the one that does the least damage to the country and economy.
>>28384069
>Finland and Sweden are a child's fantasies
Maybe to an American who gets no paid vacation.
>>28384339
a million dollars from a real estate nigga in fucking NYC isn't anything. it's literally a small loan, considering a single apartment in NYC costs over half that if you want to buy it
>>28384307
You're saying that ideal living conditions are five people in a one-bedroom apartment?
>>28384043
>the "I know economics" meme
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan/full
no way trump wins this election, literally double the amount of democrats than scared white folks
once hillary gets jailed we have made it my friends
>>28384425
For your sake, don't bring up Sweden.
>>28383817
>believing this
>probably reads the National Enquirer
>>28384307
>Adopt common sense reform! Lower the minimum wage + slash taxes on job creators = economic growth!
Yes, lower pay so low that full time workers are completely dependant on the government to survive and then let the "job creators" (the only ones that are prospering in this economy) have some more extra cash to store in their tax havens.
It's almost like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of every major economic issue happening right now.
>>28384307
satire post describing exactly why we need bernie
>>28383841
bernie is more of a wojak, i just cant see him being pepe
>>28383903
It was Vermont
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>>28384450
Please explain what's wrong with Sweden.
Anyone else a Canadian and jealous that Muricans get such cool candidates cus I am.
>>28383806
>Being this big of a fucking moron
>>28384592
>in b4 le cucks and le bbc meme
>>28384592
Sweden is a great place... For migrants...that got there fast enough because there is no housing now
>>28382573
Where do you think you are, anon? This is /r9k/, a strongly right-wing board.
Serious question, what exactly does Sanders want? I plan on voting for Clinton, because she wants to increase assistance for people who can't afford college.
>>28384702
the only thing clinton wants is more voters to fall for her bullshit
>>28384678
We're talking about economic models, not immigration.
BTW Trump's wall would be a huge waste of taxpayer dollars that would accomplish absolutely nothing.
>>28384748
>we are talking about economic models, not immigration
Lol
How does immigration help your economy? How does having thousands of unemployable homless people that take on average 7 years to assimilate doesn't affect your economy
>>28384795
not him but the current studies on immigrants cannot concretely prove immigrants are good or bad for the economy, studies are split down the middle for the most part, there is just that jobs and welfare leaching meme that all the right wingers buy into cause they are scared and frustrated with todays economic climate
>>28382573
what if told you I was for Hillary?
>>28384844
>studies in Sweden could not prove that poverty is bad for the economy shitlord
>>28384702
sanders wants free college
>tfw any argument anyone makes for not-trump politicians is le ebique b8
Not that I expect to convince anyone on a hellhole like /r9k/, but here is why I'm supporting Bernie, with common counter-arguments in mind:
>character; he's compassionate and empathetic (inb4 everyone says "muh empathy), not dishonest and actually believes in the things he claims (hillary), not an egotist (trump), doesn't flip-flop on issues (hillary and trump)tangent, but i don't understand why /r9k/ supports the equivalent of their high school bully in authoritarians like trump/cruz. c'mon guys, it's the most beta thing you can do
>not going to selfishly sacrifice American troops for foreign policy games
>economic policies endorsed by actual economists who actually know how economy works as opposed to literally everyone else who """know""" how it all works and have it all figured out
>only politician wanting to decriminalize marijuana (inb4 degenerate)i know you all are /pol/ but disproportionate amounts of minorities are incarcerated for marijuana among other things
>single-payer health system
>not going to ruin our environment (people think it's not real or don't take it seriously enough)
>minimum wage and proportional tax hikes for wealthy people makes sense
too bad his fans suck, and too bad he was cucked by hillary and the DNC. he and kasich are the only people who i feel give a damn
>>28382573
Donated 250$ and voted for him.
>>28384702
sanders wanted free college before clinton
sanders wanted $15 minimum wage before clinton
sanders wanted gay marriage before clinton
sanders foresaw the consequences of the crime bill before clinton
sanders has better foreign policy judgement than clinton
clinton is trying to be sanders
>>28384951
Trump specifically stated he wants to improve relations with Russia and avoid deploying troops on foreign soil. If anything, he's the only one who's actually anti-war of the 3.
Clinton is a warhawk who's voted for every deployment that she's ever had a say in.
Sanders I'm fuzzy on but he voted for the AWB so imho tbqh he can fuck off
>>28385012
Well Clinton isn't even going to keep her word so who cares? You should vote trump instead
>>28385012
>sanders wanted free college before clinton
>sanders wanted $15 minimum wage before clinton
Neither of those are good things.
>sanders wanted gay marriage before clinton
Supported the federal government ruling in ways it was never meant to is also bad.
>sanders has better foreign policy judgement than clinton
Last I heard he didn't even release any specifics about foreign policy.
>clinton is trying to be sanders
She's not trying to be anyone. She just reads ghost written speeches from a teleprompter, trying to appeal to the emotions of whatever crowd she's speaking to.
>>28384444
Yah you're right, linking Donald Trump's shitty tax plan totally justifies Bernie Sanders' make believe economics. We can just spend and spend and spend and never have to worry. Free college, free healthcare, free abortions and free welfare while we sit at 19 trillion dollars in debt.
>>28384425
Same goes for you. Finland and Sweden obvious have enormously high tax rates to accommodate the free shit. Tax rates that the magic man Bernie Sanders hasn't proposed. They don't spend as much on the military as us and still these places are in debt.
http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/finland
http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/sweden
There can be no logic applied to these ''''economic'''' policies. Bernie is just offering free shit with no plan to pay for any of it and insurmountable debt.
>>28384929
I mean in america, I've actually looked at the studies rather just blindly follow donald trump cause hes an epic memester and pol told me to =]
>>28385012
People need to stop using the word free. It's not free it's called allocating Taxes.
>>28384748
>huge waste of taxpayer dollars
Right, which is different from all of the good stuff democrats want to spend money on right?
The wall would keep illegal immigrants out, illegal immigrants cost us money and cost us jobs. Better to spend money on the wall then Stacie's next abortion.
>>28385134
>spend and spend while not worrying
what about the tax hikes and the wallstreet tax that you republicucks are crying about?
meanwhile trump is just going to let corporations roam free and stop taxing the lower class period putting us so deep in debt we're sold as slaves to china
>>28385014
b-but anon a majority of gun owners agree with the assault weapons ban as a part of common sense gun laws
i know you want to mow down normies but you wouldn't want bullets that can piece bulletproof armor going around
trump also said he'd bring back waterboarding and approved of going after innocents/families/civilians "we're going to be a lot tougher" in one of the republican debates. if anything, killing innocents amplifies terrorism because you make their family members want revenge
Sanders is going to take all the NEETS tendies and redistribute them to the wagecucks
>>28385190
You're talking about the single biggest construction project since the fucking U.S. highway system. A project that is projected to turn into a literal money pit of maintenance costs for America after only seven years.
And it won't keep the beaners out, you inbred. Half of them are here on expired work visas and drug cartels have been using tunnels since the 80's. Not to mention just circumventing it to begin with by going through the gulf.
You're delusional if you think the wall will do anything.
>>28385134
speaking of the debt, did you know donald's tax cuts would add 10 trillion dollars to the deficit?
bottom link is 4 u bb ;^)
>>28385201
Do you see me complaining about tax hikes?
You don't
I want to see someone raise taxes and reduce spending so I can stop worrying about this fucking debt and you people want to elect Bernie Sanders because he wants to pay for your college.
Why do you keep bringing up Trump?
I don't even like Trump, we're talking about Bernie here remember? Is this all a part of your master plan to strawman me as some redneck uneducated Trump supporter who just isn't voting Bernie because I'm uneducated.
Literally every Bernie supporter in this thread is mentioning how bad Trump is in defense of Bernie. Are you guys just bad at arguing or something?
>>28385294
See my post here
>>28385298
And argue harder please, arguing against Trump isn't actually helping your Bernie argument, hard as that may be to believe.
>>28385271
Also neets would probably be sent to man the wall like that fat guy in game of thrones, i guarantee it will hallen, which is why i cant support him
>>28385107
How is increasing the minimum wage bad?
More money to the bottom = more circulation (because the bottom can't hoard it all like the top) = prospering economy, in the same way job creation = more money to bottom = more spending = prospering economy
Literally any economist agrees
>>28385298
my bad homie, who are you voting for out of our 3 relevant canidates?
but honestly the debt isn't the biggest problem on our minds, government debt isn't THAT important and it's going to take us a while to pay the chinks back. I think bernie's plan has the best shot at lowering the debt a significant amount even if all the republicans will be mad cause they have to pay 200$ more a year
>>28385271
It would do something. I agree not much would be done from it but the amount of immigrants coming over the border the orthodox way isn't insignificant and again, still a better use of money than Stacie's next abortion.
>>28385366
the only something it's gonna do is raise the price of drugs and tomatoes
build a wall in the ocean stopping indians from getting internet access and cucking all our IT out here
>>28385148
>I have actually looked at the studys
Ok, how is slowing down ilegal immigration going to negatively affect America's economy?
Is it because factory's will have to start paying a living wage? Because if that's the case legalizing the immigrants will have the same effect
>>28385337
On paper it work, but those paper don't take in account that a major corporation will fire a huge part of it's work force instead of paying them $15 an hour.
>>28385339
>bernie's plan has the best shot at lowering the debt a significant amount
then you're wrong, he wants to increase spending drastically and he wants to raise taxes by very little compared to what he needs to raise them to
we're already losing a trillion dollars a year, if that
I don't think I'll vote
It'll be Hilary-Trump so I may vote independent but that may as well be throwing my vote away, but so is voting Trump because Hilary is guaranteed to win it.
>>28382573
Too bad he's not gonna win the nomination.
>>28385337
more money to the bottom = corporations having to pay more = corporations raising prices of everything = literally just inflation
>>28385413
everyone is going to raise the federal debt no matter what because we are in such a shitty situation
if you knew anything about business you'd know debt isn't super important and more importantly government debts means almost nothing.
>>28385366
It is insignificant if you consider the costs and exactly what that money could be used for. If you care so much about immigration what should be happening is tightening up policy surrounding work visas and making sure they're enforced.
Starting a trade war with Mexico just to fund ineffectual cock symbolism is literally the worst thing you could to about immigration. It speaks volumes of Trump's understanding of how trade deficits work, and you're arguing all this with a terrible snap-reaction strawman.
Please get an education.
>>28385337
How doesn't it? At my current job I make $13 an hour driving a forklift at a retail company. The retail workers earn $9 an hour. To even do that my company had to cut some benefits and change how they pay out my retirement.
If everyone started getting paid $15 they would 100% have to cut jobs. You simply can't just make money appear out of thin air. In before you say "well the CEOs can give up a few of their millions" as if every company in existence is Wal-mart.
By supporting a $15 minimum wage you're also giving a big "fuck you" to people like me who have some kind of skill that employers find valuable. Why even go for a harder, faster paced, more demanding forklift job if I could just work at Walmart stocking the shelves for the exact same amount of money? What incentive do people who are stocking shelves have to find better jobs which allows them to acquire skills and experience for future jobs? It makes no sense.
Don't forget that because the cost of labor goes up, that means it's harder to even find a job in the first place, even worse than it is now.
>Literally any economist agrees
That's wrong though.
https://www.epionline.org/studies/survey-of-us-economists-on-a-15-federal-minimum-wage/
You could find plenty more, better controlled studies I'm sure, but even a highschool understanding of economics should be enough to tell you why $15 minimum wages are bad.
Who wants to match my contribution to bernie's retirement fund oops i mean campaign? Bernouts are getting jew'd hard by the same man that claims to be representing them. It's funny to watch.
>>28385467
*It is significant...
I'm tired and multitasking atm.
>>28385148
And by the way immigrants don't help Sweden's economy, they help the banks and housing markets because the government has to get in debt just to pay for more houses being made and the bank approved loans for the migrants that the government has to pay for.
I have no dobut people voting for your politicians truly believe they are helping someone but for a fraction of the price of bringing them to Sweden and making them citizens you can give them a good life ina neighbor country.
Meanwhile when your politicians loose their jobs they are hired by the same banks that benefit from this whole shit fest.
As a rule of thumb when someone with money and power tells you he is going to help the poor you don't listen
>>28382573
Trump is going to Make America Great Again and you will be the first up against the wall
>>28385508
>but even a highschool understanding of economics should be enough to tell you why $15 minimum wages are bad.
You're absolutely right. If wages kept up with worker productivity minimum wage would be $22 per hour. $15 is way too low.
Donated $100 and voted for him, because I'm neither completely ape-fucking stupid (Trump voters), nor viciously corrupt to the core with bad environmental policies (Clinton).
>>28385337
>Literally any economist agrees
lol no
higher minimum wage -> less available jobs -> more people on unemployment
>>28382573
>/Bernie Sanders/
You forgot the "r" kiddo
>>28385568
Except robots don't earn a wage.
>>28385431
He never actually had a chance to win it from the start. A year from now, he will be a forgotten name.
>>28385568
How do you measure productivity?
>>28385586
Your right there no way people will leave their jobs to start their own company or people will buy more expensive things like houses.
>>28385568
By the way so you realize your graph direclty correlated with women joinin the work force right?
>>28385568
That graph gives very little information other than a partial correlation.
Did you ever think why productivity keeps going up? Do you think it's because we're working harder or longer? Did you ever think perhaps technology might be playing a huge role? This is especially true for office jobs, which have had massive leaps in productivity thanks to things like the computer and the Internet.
>liberal /r9k/ posters
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>>28385703
>literal meme candidate
>>28385703
It's OK trump Pepe they are getting g their asses handed. Let them come here with their false studies so we can demolish them
>>28385703
but that frog is wearing a maga hat.
are you sure you're just not retarded, onii-chan?
>>28385568
That's actually misleading. Productivity only went up because of advances in technology used in jobs. The workers themselves are still the same.
>>28385703
>Voting for a meme candidate
>Voting against your interested as a member of the neet masterace
You're not a filthy wagecuck are you?
>>28385686
Feminism, which is the new foundation for leftism in America, was created by left leaning periodists. You can brush off any form of study they make
jesus fuck anons you like to bite the b8 as hard you can huh? Just let it go, what happens happens, at this point the whole fucking election is a retarded ass joke, if anything the best thing that could happen at this point is that a random 3rd party gets a huge advantage over everybody and just wins, but it's too late for that so, yea I'm positive you guys arefucked
>>28385703
>Not wanting neetbux
It's like you want to get cucked.
>>28385785
this is true, but at least with trump we might not get fucked by mudslimes like europe.
>>28385785
Bernie supporters in a nutshell
>>28385829
>someone disagrees with me
>they must be a lu-lu-lu-lu-LUH-IH-BERUHL!!!!!!111
>>28382573
Yup, but he's not getting the nomination. I think I'm just going to write in Mickey Mouse.
>>28385829
So every post that isn't waxing Donald Trump's cock and balls is from a Bernie supporter?
>>28385797
cuckservatives are good wagies and love their masters whip.
Idk I hate niggers but on the other hand im a neet and want free shit too
>>28382573
Boatie McBoatface 2016
>>28385861
>is that a meme?
WELL I CAN MEME HARDER
But really you have no stakes in this election, America said no to socialism. Vote trump
>>28385876
Honestly only an assblasted Bernie supported could have said that, by this point everyone already chose between Hillary and trump
>>28385904
Where did it say in his post that he was for socialism?
>>28385904
What if I don't because, even though I generally agree with moderate-right politics, I still assert that Trump is a fucking joke that would do more harm than good to this country?
>>28385760
>>28385797
This explains it. I have not been visiting /r9k/ often but apparently there has been a big neet movement on these boards. I work as a network admin and make 65k. If I keep improving I could become a systems/server engineer and cross 100k. Then do MBA and probably make big bucks. I don't want to be a corporate rat forever and do intend on starting my own business someday. Then probably go into politics (imagine a former /pol/ shitposter becoming mayor).
People like Trump are needed to fight degeneracy in society. I wasn't born to just sleep and sit back all day.
Nothing against N33ts. As long as you faggots fight the cause when the civil war is sparked against degeneracy and cultural marxists.
>>28385952
Trumpfags think anything the gubbernment does must be socialism
>>28384307
Better yet lets just decriminalize slavery
>>28385939
>only an assblasted Bernie supported could have said that
My state's senator, a Republican, denounced Trump and Clinton, calling for a 3rd party candidate. Many Republicans like me feel the same, as do many Democrats.
>>28385963
Then embrace the shillary and still help trump by being completely disengeuos and screaming to peoples faces that they are fucking white males.
>>28385966
>neet movement
It's a handful of rusemasters, most of whom are probably "wagecucks" themselves. Don't be an idiot.
>>28385988
Well yeah, plenty of sore loosers around, most of them actually supported another rebublican that wasn't trump thinking they had a chance.
Still you don't see them nearly as assblasted as Bernie fags. I don't recall ever seeing someone unironically shilling for Cruz here ever
>>28385966
>Civil war
Unnecessary. Uproot the Bilderbergers and we can all rest easy.
>>28386051
>I don't recall ever seeing someone unironically shilling for Cruz here ever
Have you only been here a week? There were plenty of Cruz threads, one of them I have bookmarked for some reason: >>28223376
>Still you don't see them nearly as assblasted as Bernie fags
No, everybody's pretty "assblasted".
>>28385966
>the civil war sparked against degeneracy and cultural marxists
>network admins being autistic
can't say I'm surprised...
>>28385966
>networks admin
You must be 50 then because all the networks admin jobs dried up 20 years ago
>>28386093
I said unironically tho
>>28386103
>You must be 50 then because all the networks admin jobs dried up 20 years ago
They're here but hard to find. Get your CCNA and work helpdesk until you find something.
>>28386120
Plenty of shilling in that thread, even if the OP is just making a case for his "robotness". And as I said, there were multiple threads, not just that one.
>>28385963
You literally have no proof that Donald Trump will do anything harmful to this country.
Are you seriously going to vote for Hillary Clinton, a known criminal? Or maybe you feel guilty for being a white male so you want to vote for the cuck party?
>>28386159
Yeah but you were supporting Bernie. Only people voting for Cruz where old or religious so which one are you?
>>28386097
>can't say I'm surprised...
I would just say jews but I want to take it easy on /r9k/. I have no idea how redpilled this board is.
>>28386209
Nah, this board is 99% berniebot cucks
>>28386182
Trump's wall is a trash idea that won't accomplish anything and will cost our economy dearly. America was built on cheap, exploitable labor and he wants to cut off the supply line to keep the rednecks in BumFuck, Iowa satiated.
His tax proposal is also asinine.
Btw, every politician is a criminal. Even Trump. He's a known fraudster. But you knew that, right?
>>28386248
/pol/ needs to come here more often, but I bet even they couldn't stand the self hate here for more than 5 minutes.
>>28386203
I was supporting Rand Paul. Later, I was supporting Kasich. Again, no idea why you're jumping to Sanders.
>>28385337
Yes, you stupid faggot retard. Firms will continue buying labor at a higher cost because the amount of labor required is fixed. Price doesn't matter. We could raise minimum wage to any number and people would have more money because they would work more.
You are a dumb, stupid.
>>28386248
>>28386209
This board is plenty "redpilled", but the issue is bigger than "lol Jews".
>>28386269
so you are completely irrelevant? good. Go back to the crowd to be barely seen and completely unheard then
trump all the way
hop on the trump train or get out of the way
Fuckin bernout, accept the fact that that cuck isn't going to be potus.
Honestly though, if you had a choice between Hillary and trump, trump is the obvious choice. No way in hell can a woman run a country, just take a look at what happened to Germany.
Fucking cucks, all of you.
>>28386264
>Trump's wall is a trash idea
Wrong.
>won't accomplish anything and will cost our economy dearly
Keeping the illegals who drain our health care system and other resources is going to cost us? The illegals shouldn't even be here in the first place. They form gangs, they're rapists, they commit violent crimes. The wall will keep them out, and Mexico is going to pay for it. What's there to not like about that?
>>28386322
Her being a woman has nothing to do with it. It's the fact that she's Hillary fucking Clinton.
>>28386265
what ? they come here all the time. many robots are also /pol/. that's probably a big part of why /r9k/ is very right-leaning.
>>28386305
So go with whatever is popular? How very American.
cuck cuck lmao
>>28386292
Zionists are the biggest funders of globalism. They're right up there in one of the biggest problems our species/civilization faces today.
>>28386367
>voting for someone you know has no chance to win
>on a presidential election
>>28386331
Building a 2,000 mile wall that will cost billions of dollars not just in initial startup costs (assuming Mexico even agrees to pay), while slashing taxes to historic lows. Shit's gonna cost over the long term in maintenance and you're a moron if you think otherwise. Also most of the illegal spics here are overstaying on work visas and those that don't just tunnel under the fucker.
Also expect all your goods to skyrocket in price. How much of an idiot do you have to be to think it's a good idea?
>>28386331
>Trump's wall is a trash idea
>"Wrong."
classic trump defense. it's a shit idea and you know it. that money could go to plenty other practical uses.
you're /pol/ is showing, and it's showing you know fucking nothing about the real world and how/why illegals are here and what role they play in society
how anyone can justify a wall is beyond me, considering illegals commit LESS crime than then the """"real"""" americans here
>>28386389
The problem is Bilderberg, not Zionism. The more you and /pol/ detract from that, the more convoluted our goal becomes.
Who /jillstein/ here? Smash the two party system.
>>28386431
i like jill stein and wish she had attention but it's a wasted vote to write her in
tfw
>>28386451
If you don't live in a swing state go for it.
>>28386397
I've always wondered on what grounds /pol/ stands on to call everybody else a "cuck" when this is their line of thinking.
>>28385203
where'd that poll come from? fucking new york or california?
the AR15 is the most common rifle in america now, it's cheaper than 99% of all other non-poorfag rifles, and if you'rejewishcan be had for less than $400
also literally every rifle round besides a .22lr can go through soft armor, and level III hard armor can be defeated by anything higher than a .308 AP round. level IV, what's issued to the troops, is gtg against anything up to .30-06 AP ammo.
terrorists aren't people, i don't have a problem with waterboarding. It's also not remotely dangerous if done properly.
>>28386248
since when? no it isn't. it's at least 75% trumpers, then maybe 24-25% bernouts at best, and maybe 1% at best shillatards
>>28386481
so its wrong for me to assume you support bernie but right for you to assume i go to /pol?
I miss when most people on the Internet barely cared about politics.
>>28386426
Zionists organize shit like that. In any case its the trillionaire families and globalist bankers, among whom you'll find an overwhelming zionism support.
>>28386407
We just slash the gibsmedats along with the taxes. If mexcrement continues to poor in we coul dforce them in labor camps. Shit, the amount of aid we send ot mexico each year is enough for the materials. Round up all the brown people and make them build the wall at gun point and it would actually save money. I don't mind paying a little extra if I know the money is goin gback into my countries economy instead of to china or some other country. When you don't flip burgers for only $15.hr or whatever you think the minimum wage should be for fucking around and goofing off you don't notice it too much when your oxford shirt goes from $112 to $122. Your poorfags don't even have a dog in the fight. Why do you even give a shit about politics? Stop being a greedy cunt trying to steal from every person you can and let the grownups do their job.
>>28386521
so basically the 90's dial-up days.
>>28386540
>he actually thinks this would ever happen in america today
jesus fucking christ i knew people here were retarded but i didn't think it was this bad
>>28384307
Hi Rand
>>28384444
>http://www.taxpolicycenter.org
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-partisan-tax-policy-center-1457132750
>>28386513
No. Fair enough.
>>28386565
Early 2000s as well, to an extent.
>>28386529
It was not initially organized by Zionists. The Rockefellers were responsible for much of its financial backing during the first years after the group's inception, but at that point it included dozens of members from many different religious and political affiliations, all of them tied only by their immense wealth and globalist agenda. Attacking Zionism is not only a detraction, it's futile. Zionism is intangible, the Bilderbergs are not.
>>28386619
>wallstreet tries to discredit TPC when it comes to something that would directly fuck them
who would have guessed lmao
>>28386580
Bernouts so retarded all they can do is post memes and shit their diapers. This one is so stupid it can't even operate the shift key.
>>28383817
>if you are not a wageslave you are a looser
Loving every lel
Trump and Bernie supporter here. False dichotomy BTFO
>>28382573
Fuck you and your Bernie fag post OP
>>28382573
>ITT: OP's personal echochamber
>>28384307
>wage-earners
Not even people anymore
just slaves
>>28384307
God i hope this is bait
>5 people in a one bedroom apartment
yes, perfect
someone can get by with ONE set of clothes forever
>Dumpster diving
What the fuck
>>28384307
Do us the courtesy of posting the name of your business so none of us can make the mistake of giving you money.
>>28387417
You don't even know the name of his company yet you want to avoid using it? Sounds like you're just a pussy ass crybully.
>>28387617
Yes, I want to avoid hiring anybody that legitimately believes anything in that post.
Waiting for Clinton to get indicted tbhfam
>>28387642
Do you mean being hired by? He probably doesn't want a lazy piece of shit like you working for him anyway. I agree with abolishing minimum wage, though for entirely different reasons. I'm of the opinion that higher wages means better production and morale, but it should be left to the owner's discretion to set the wage. If employees don't like it they can find work elsewhere of course. minimum wage is a stupid and pointless idea.
>>28385876
yea because nobody likes hillary
>>28388099
"Hiring" was the wrong term. Buying his services is what I meant. I'm an electrician and I work 60+ hours a week. How does finding the things in his post abhorrent make me lazy?
>>28385685
women joined the "work force" in the 40s if you mean they started working for corporations
women have always worked, except the ones with rich husbands
Anyone have that Trump pic where he sports the JUST hair?
>>28388197
Maybe you're just misguided then. $7.25 is high for shit like burger flipper or shelf stocker though don't you think? I mean think of it from the owners perspective.
>>28388336
I don't know what's worth fighting for, or why I have to scream
I don't know why I instigate and say what I don't mean
I don't know how I got this way, I'll never be all right
So I'm breaking the habit
I'm breaking the habit
I'm breaking the habit
Tonight
>>28388415
Considering that 7.25 full time is not enough to live on, and there will always be a need for shelf stockers and burger flippers, no. That's nowhere near enough.
>>28388433
>there will always be a need for shelf stockers and burger flippers
Within 30 years more than half of the jobs we have right now will have been automated.
>>28382573
mfw this thread
tbo
>>28388471
I'm glad you know with absolute certainty what our economy will look like in 30 years. Perhaps you should buy some stock and make it big.
>>28388415
I'M misguided? What excuse does the company have for not being able to afford to pay their workers $7.25 /h?
>>28388508
Computer/robotics technology is rapidly advancing and low-level jobs are already beginning to be automated
>>28388486
Have you looked at the thread anywhere besides the OP?
>>28388433
Why should it be enough to live on? Those are teenager jobs, they live with their parents. If you're flipping burgers past 18 you've got bigger problems than worrying about a living wage.
>>28388534
The best excuse ever, the owner doesn't think the prospective employees should be paid that much.
>>28388611
Are you saying all entry-level jobs are teenager jobs?
>>28388634
That's all your going to give me? Here is your post >>28388415
No, I don't think $7.25 is "too high" for shit like burger flipper or shelf stalker. What makes YOU think it is?
>>28388433
>7.25 an hour is not enough to live on
Entitled cunt, move to Mexico then and learn how to live on 20 cents an hour
>>28388640
No, just the teenager tier ones. Unskilled labor type stuff. Things like unlicensed personnel in a hospital is entry level but not teenager jobs. I'd still hope someone has more ambition than to still be working a cafeteria or patient care assistant in their 30s.
>>28388670
We are not in Mexico and they are not "living".
>>28388611
>Why should it be enough to live on? Those are teenager jobs
Lmao no. Look up minimum wage statistics, in our post 2008 crash economy there are many more adults working minimum or near minimum wage either because they are in college, or working a second job because the first job does not pay enough, or because they are disabled, etc.
And why should it be enough to live on? Is this a serious question? You're asking why, in the United States of America, someone working full time should be able to pay rent and eat?
>>28388657
My analysis of the job and my expectations of the position. If I'm the business owner I have the final say. It's up to the employee to demonstrate it deserves more. Maybe he's bilingual and really handy with equipment when it fucks up. I can see that guy getting more, even being put on the fast track to a managerial role.
>>28388760
The economy has Mahe a complete recovery and we're are doing even better than before 2008. Instead of blaming employer or economy consider that maybe something is wrong with a person if they're working two jobs and can't make ends meet. If I didn't make enough at my job instead of working two shitty jobs I'd find one that did pay enough.
>I get triggered if people even as much as suggest they don't support my shitty right wing candidate to the point I have to shill him in literally every board
>>28388818
kekeke that's right goy, you are all entitled, lazy and privileged. Paying my workers more would be like another Shoah.
>>28388874
I wouldnt say they all are. I've seen a few really cool hard working dudes. For some reason it seems they tend to avoid minimum wage jobs though.
>>28388433
7.25 is easily enough to live on, that's $1160 per month. Especially considering you should be living with your parents, or sharing rent if you're making minimum wage.
Hahaha! I am voting for Trump and I am posting in this thread! Hahaha! I am breaking the rules! Hahaha get fucked normie hahaha reeee hahaha reeee!
>>28388867
who else /laughing at how emotional people get about politics only once every 4 years/ here?
hilary is literally satan and trump is literally hitler, but in 6 months nobody will even be thinking about these people.
>The economy has Mahe a complete recovery and we're are doing even better than before 2008.
No, it hasn't. The economic policies have favored those on the wealthier end of the spectrum. Their growth has been absolutely enormous, but the middle and lower class? Not so much.
>>28388818
>Instead of blaming employer or economy consider that maybe something is wrong with a person if they're working two jobs and can't make ends meet.
No, I blame the minimum wage for not doing what it was designed to do - provide the minimum amount for a person to live on. Much of this is due to inflation as well, the minimum wage hasn't increased since the 1970s, and nearly everything else has increased in price.
The economy isn't nearly as black/white good/bad as you think it is. But if you have a job and are working full time, you should be able to pay for the standard living expenses. And because people aren't, they're falling back on government assistance for things that the employer should be providing to their workforce in the first place.
>>28389286
^meant to say it hasn't been keeping up with inflation since the 70s. People still have to buy the same basic needs, food, shelter, etc, but it's more expensive now and the minimum wage increases haven't kept up with that increase
>>28388983
Congrats, you actually made The Onion.
http://www.theonion.com/article/man-pulling-in-1000-per-month-has-nerve-to-complai-33224
>>28389211
Social media has compounded this to an insane degree. People are raising awareness of the wrong things in the wrong places and the desire to find a middle ground is often dismissed as "cowardice".
"I SUPPORT BERNIE SANDER" All I hear is "I'M A WHITE ANDROGYNOUS TRANSRACIAL MALE FROM LOS ANGELES AND I THINK NEGROS ARE OUR MASTERS,PLEASE MUSLIMS CASTRATE ME"
Cuck,cuck,cuck,cuck,cuck,C.U.C.K
>>28389365
Have a (You), you seem like you really need it.
>>28389365
>being this assblasted that people don't like your shitty meme candidate
the only baby i see here is you
>>28389365
How are you any more of an adult with this post than any of the figures in that picture?
>>28389365
>implying others are crybabies
Trump has skin as thick as a paper bag. He can't even take criticism on Twitter without knee-jerk rage. You can tell he has never shrugged off anything in his life without throwing a temper tantrum of opposition.
Go suck off your kike at leddit
>>28389452
You are platinum mad.
>>28382573
>"no views that are opposed to mine are allowed"
What is it about pro-communist and anti American sentiments like the direct staunching if free speech that appeals to the retarded masses?
Don't they understand that this can also backfire on them as well?
who /hilldog/ here? can't wait for the absolute asspain in november
>>28390440
paid shill confirmed
>>28383891
not only low. but 0 ZERO
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>>28390473
Ofcourse, I do it for free
>>28383817
>underlining defacing quotes from as bias a source as you can get
Wow
>>28385298
>so I can stop worrying about this debt
Wtf? Chill out. It's not like you personally owe 15 trillion. Retard.
>>28390400
Gonna go out on a limb here and say OP may or may not have been sarcastic in some way, shape or form.
>>28385400
They hired them for their labor in the first place. They needed them to make their business run. They aren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. They aren't going to slash jobs proportional to a wage increase. That makes 0 sense, especially when business owners make as much as they do already. They can afford to distribute excessive earnings to higher labor wages. That's the entire point.
When we have some dumbass reality tv star running the country (seriously think about that one for a second) you retards will be to blame
>>28390736
Kanye West already announced his run for the 2020 candidacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFWXpYJKaI
>Having to choose between a socialist, a fascist and a corporate prostitute
This is probably one of those rare situations where voting for a third party candidate wont be counted as throwing your vote away. It's a pretty fucked up situation.
>>28384433
>a million dollars
>small loan
ok
