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Have any of you tried Nofap / NoPorn?
It's worked wonders for me. My grades are up, i feel more confident, less depressed, anxiety is down, and much more energy, which pretty much fuels the above.
Given how much fucking porn gets posted on here I'd say you guys have a problem. Break from the cycle. Don't let PMO take control of your life.
I've never done no fap, but I've noticed that my libido has been steadily decreasing, and for the past week or so I haven't even bothered fapping even though I mostly do it out of boredom.
Shut the fuck up, this looks like a troll, but either way, No Fap is a myth. Your testosterone goes up 140% after 7 days, then it drops back to normal levels. All effects are placebos or results of NOPORN. Porn is demonstrably bad for your brain. After quitting porn and now jerking only to very vanilla images, I feel fantastic. Stop preaching the false deity of Nofap
>>27178307
>very vanilla images
What, like intense eye contact or something?
>>27178337
Sorta
Non-nude still images like this.
>>27178358
Do you fap to shit like planes and cars?
>>27178307
NoPorn works just as well. NoFap is mostly used to prevent one thing leading to another (Masturbation ---> Porn).
About testosterone levels: The level of testosterone in our blood spikes up, because it's not being used. After a while, our body becomes conditioned to not spending it on baby batter and repurposes the hormone for actual development. This is why people who do NoFap often report a slightly deeper voice and healthier appearance.
Even then it's not all about testosterone. To many people, resisting the urge to masturbate will show just how much determination and discipline we can have, and a whole number of new possibilities are open from that point on. It's partly about breaking out of your comfort zone.
>>27178090
First day of nofap. Wish me luck
>>27178268
We often resort to masturbation and porn to escape crushing feelings like boredom and sadness, much like smokers resort to cigarrettes to relieve stress from work, school etc.
>>27178373
Kek no
Every time I expose my masturbation habits I'm called odd. I don't get it. This is the stuff everyone was masturbating to if 20 or 30 years ago, spare some guys who had Playboys. It's the stuff most people start off masturbating to. I don't think it's that weird.
>>27178377
I suppose, but I don't like how the focus tends to be on NoFap when that has almost no effect. I've gone over a month without masturbating and still occasionally watched porn, it did nothing. But after I stopped watching porn, any ED was gone, I have full erections again, and I can masturbate to very tame things. It's all about the porn in my eyes.
>>27178409
>crushing feelings
>boredom
Nigga, what? I just find it extremely annoying and wonder why it's even a thing. I mean, what the fuck is even the point of it?
>>27178392
I do hope you succeed, and turn your life around.
Nofap has a reddit community (/r/nofap) and a website, both of which are extremely supportive and full of useful tips, I recommend checking them out. Best of luck to you :)
>>27178459
Honestly I've no idea why boredom is even a thing. Nature is weird.
Regardless, porn is never the way to deal with our problems, wether they are huge life destroying issues or tiny inconveniences.
>>27178090
>don't masturbate often (once a week, sometimes once every 2 weeks).
>still have really low self esteem
OP is a massive phagit
>>27178534
There's a difference between not doing it often, and not doing it at all.
However, porn is the biggest issue. Masturbating every once in a while is fine, but porn is a "no no"
>>27178510
Boredom isn't even a problem, and I don't have any problems that I don't fix in a short amount of time. People masturbate because it feels good, not to escape from some nonexistent problem. They also have sex because it feels good, and it actually has a point, which is procreation. Do you think people would have sex as much as they do now if it didn't feel good and only because it makes babies?
How is porn destructive to the brain?
>>27178510
Boredom exists because it reminds us to keep our minds occupied, usually with doing something that benefits us or our children.
It's not particularly useful, but it's a trait that reminded our ancient ancestors to keep working, and it got passed on because it was fairly useful.
>>27178570
This. Masturbating really isn't a big deal, I do it once a day, nothing wrong with that. Porn is the issue. Masturbating only becomes an issue when it is physically damaging you, causing ED because you do it so often, or it's leading you down a dark road of fetishes you really shouldn't be entertaining.
>>27178575
Masturbation and sex is fine.
However, even if it isn't your case, many people resort to porn daily to relieve the pain of their own lives, including (past) me. If that is not your case, then hug yourself for not giving in to addiction.
>>27178596
It fucks up your dopamine levels. We are wired to experience pleasure (a rise in dopamine) when we see naked women, or sexual acts/sensual things because it motivates us to have sex. However, seeing thousands of different women doing tons of different sexual acts overloads our dopamine receptors in a way our ancestors never dreamed of, leading to ED and progressively destructive fetishes because they are the only thing that gives you that "shock" to your dopamine receptors.
It conditions you to be unable to get aroused when you're just one on one with an average female, or aroused by normal things like seeing an attractive woman walk by.
Look up yourbrainonporn
>>27178620
>addiction
Every time someone points this out, I'd love to point out that everything on this planet is addicted to living, as they are, but I realize how stupid that sounds so I don't.
Hell, the word probably lost its meaning a long time ago.
>>27178596
Porn creates unreallistic expectations and standards for our sex lives. Porn tells us that eventually some hot bimbo with huge tits and ass will want to fuck, and that women are only there for sex.
People don't usually notice the effect it has on the brain, which is why porn is so commonly accepted as an okay habit. I didn't notice it myself, until I stopped watching it. It's like I've discovered a whole new person behind most of the people I knew, since I was only seeing them as "things" in the past.
Porn also tells us that we're all supposed to have perfect 9 inch cocks, which fucks with self esteem and creates body image issues.
In the case of women, it tells them they have to have perfect bodies and big tits, once again not a reallistic expectation at all.
>>27178666
Who /2Dsexual/ here?
Seriously, 3D women just don't do it anymore. They are by far the most flawed thing in this existence, and can never even come close to hoping to to coming close to being the perfection that is 2D.
>>27178746
You have perfectly demonstrated the effect of porn on our brains. It has created expectations and standards in you that can in no way be met by real women. I honestly hope you're trolling though.
>>27178746
I'm the guy you're replying to.
I don't judge you for that, 3D women do have flaws, but I just can't bring myself to masturbate to 2D. I can't imagine things with 2D, since they're 2D and I'm 3D.
That said, I don't think what >>27178785
says is necessarily true. As long as it's not degenerate hentai/tentacle rape stuff, and just 2D versions of >>27178358
then it's probably fine.
>>27178785
Yeah, no shit. They're inferior, not my fault.
>>27178700
This guy knows what he's talking about. Women are only good for sex, they're basically holes to stick your dick into. Whatever a woman can do, a man can do better. Except for getting pregnant, having a period and all that other terrible, terrible womanly stuff. Men are by far the superior gender.
>>27178666
daily reminder that the yourbrainonporn guy is a fucking massage therapist with no credentials whatsoever
>>27178829
I really hope this is just bait or some shit
>>27178862
seriously, his claim to fame is a fucking TEDx talk
>>27178700
you sound like a feminist. your posts are creating unrealistic standards for this shitty thread
>>27178862
Watch this if you can't be bothered to go through his website:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
Just because he doesn't professionally conduct scientific experiments of his own doesn't mean he can't compile research. You saying he is a massage therapist does not change the many, many studies he has supporting him.
>>27178906
it's TEDx. it's TED for people who are too dumb for TED. fucking sarkeesian got an audience there.
>>27178903
It goes the other way around for men aswell. It just happens to be more common for men to watch porn, and as such objectify women. Women who watch porn will inevitably objectify men, which is also a bad thing. It leads to bitterness, anxiety around the opposite gender, and depression.
Does that sound familiar?
All nofap is is a bunch of shitheads with anecdotes who assume that everybody who looks at porn has the same problems they have, and the solution is to do the same thing they did.
For my part, while it's true that when I'm masturbating a lot, I need more extreme stimulus to get aroused, one full day of abstinance and I'm slavering over every ass on the street again. There's no damage.
>>27178958
Yes, Tedx doesn't mean shit the majority of the time, but you can't deny the research and statistics. He has no reason to lie or anything to gain from this, and all of the evidence points towards porn having a very negative long term effect on people.
>>27178972
no desu famaerello
I'm wondering how much of porn symptoms are actually due to the whole internet
4chan is just like porn but for conversation instead of sex.
I have yet to see a study that compares porn addicts with internet addicts who quit porn but still use the internet a lot. I'm willing to bet that the brain is still damaged
>>27178995
You're right, not everyone is effected the same. I agree that most NoFap people are fucking retards. But porn does have adverse effects for most people after long term usage. So while you might not be effected, you are using the very same anecdotal evidence nofappers do.
What if you fap because you want to maintain a low sex drive?
>>27179051
Yep. Excessive internet use can cause problems also. Spending 18 hours a day on /r9k/ isn't any better than porn.
Honestly what the fuck am I still doing here.
>>27179093
Nothing wrong with that family, just don't watch porn while doing so.
>>27179116
actually does it even make a difference
once you've seen porn your imagination IS porn, the porn is IN your head, there's almost no difference anymore between fantasy and porn since more than likely the fantasies you have were planted in your brain by porn
>>27179061
it's just another bullshit cult like Kellogg had
cutting boys' foreskins off and making them eat shitty corn mush because of your own weird bullshit
>>27179116
What aboutchurch burnings
>>27179137
Well, that's a good question, but for me at least the answer is no. I was never into really disgusting porn, I just like blowjob porn, but now after stopping, I actually masturbate to more odd fantasies like armpits. But there's nothing really wrong with any fantasies as long as it's your imagination. The problem with porn is actually seeing that stuff and not having to imagine it- to get the real dopamine rush when it's just an image on a screen. That dopamine rush doesn't exist when just imagining.
>>27179138
Not at all, Kellogg was all about dumb anti-masturbation bullshit and had no factual basis. Adverse effects of long term pornography use are well documented and accepted. I'm not saying not to watch porn, just trying to reach out to some anons because it helped me to stop and it might help others. That said, I'm not OP, I'm not against fapping in any sense.
>>27179173
Kek I don't care what you jerk off to Varg
>>27179247
not sure about that, I'd say the most damaging fetishes I acquired were from text stories which I read before I ever watched much visual porn
>>27179247
And the adverse effects of long term sexual promiscuity are well documented and accepted. But cunts like you will push one agenda while ignoring evidence of the contrary.
>>27179138
You're a fucking idiot. Have fun with your chronic masturbation.
>>27179280
Fair enough, it's different for me but I'm not you. The decision is yours m8, you know yourself better than me. I'm just trying to help people who are in my boots.
>>27179328
???
I hate sexual promiscuity and I hate sluts. You're making some baseless assumptions there friend. I have tons of charts about the negative effects of sleeping around on future relationships/marriages.
A fucked up sleep pattern has a more detrimental effect on T levels than masturbating does.
I'm in a relationship and I masturbate to all kinds of porn in my off days. It hasn't had a negative impact. In fact, I can go longer and basically cum whenever I feel like it. So that's a bonus.
>>27178090
I just jack off once a week and don't use porn to do so.
Optimal T plus I cum buckets.
Mainly because I got to sleep with a qt but couldn't get it up since I'm so used to death gripping plus porn
I went and bought Viagra so next time I smash I have my confidence and then after that I hope the nofap will have caught up. Viagra is fucking hilarious btw. I thought I was going to split the bitch In half, I felt like a god
if all of your life problems could be solved by not masturbating you should reconsider your priorities
i'm not about to lock arms and prance around with other men singing praise about celibacy
personally i think you look like a cuck
>>27179482
Honestly the reality is its quitting all computer use that would really solve the problems
>>27179482
>not being celibate
>giving a single fuck about bitches
>>27178090
>this much fucking cope.
You can't get a girl because you AREN'T GOOD LOOKING ENOUGH.
That's literally it. It's not your shyness, it's not your "lack of game", it's simply the fact that girls don't feel phsyically attracted to you.
Don't even give me that "b-but muh autism" bullshit. If Chad can't hold a conversation and says shit like "y-you too", girls think he's "cute" or "mysterious". When you do it, they think you're a potential rapist.
Unless you're a legit mental basket case who flaps his arms, has seizures and makes bird noises; don't think for a second that the way you act is the reason you can't get laid. That is unless you're actually REJECTING women, and if that's the case, why are you complaining about CHOOSING not to have sex?
>>27178307
I want to debunk the study that a lot of PMO addicts throw around to argue against nofap. I know you've all seen it.
The study that shows testosterone peaks on day 7 and then returns to normal afterwards.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241?dopt=Abstract
Yeah, so I'm here to say that it's only partially correct.
You see, the way that your body works is like this: certain hormones float around in your bloodstream until they find a receptor to bind to. Your body doesn't use the hormones/chemicals until they actually bind to a receptor. Until they bind to a receptor, they just float around in your blood stream waiting to be used.
When you're PMOing every day, your blood stream is loaded with an excess of dopamine and estrogen, so what happens after a while? Dopamine and estrogen bind to what are called "androgen receptors," in your body. This is why when you constantly PMO you're fatigued, emotionally numb, and have brain fog.
Now, as the study shows - your testosterone peaks on day 7 and goes way down on day 8.
So what's the catch?
Well, the study measured SERUM TESTOSTERONE, which is the testosterone that's floating around in your bloodstream.
In other words, your body isn't using it...yet.
On day 8, however, the testosterone in your bloodstream plummets.
Why? Basically, your body notices an excess of testosterone that it hasn't been using yet. So what does it do? It kicks out the dopamine and estrogen, so that testosterone can BIND TO THE ANDROGEN RECEPTORS that dopamine and estrogen were previously occupying.
In other words, the reason that serum testosterone drops on day 8 is because your body actually uses it. That's when it binds to your androgen receptors.
That's why most of the effects like a deeper voice, more energy, etc. come after the 7 day mark - it's because your body's finally starting to get rid of the estrogen and dopamine, so that your testosterone can bind to androgen receptors.
tl;dr - Nofap increases testosterone.
>>27178462
Yeah I already know them. I don't dislike reddit but this sub is a little too extreme to me, it seems like a lot of things are exagerrated
>>27178090
Placebo effect/10
>>27178090
I masturbate and I have a girlfriend.
Day 8. Anyone care to try and make me fail? Pro-tip: you can't do it, my will is iron.
>>27178440
>I suppose, but I don't like how the focus tends to be on NoFap when that has almost no effect. I've gone over a month without masturbating and still occasionally watched porn, it did nothing. But after I stopped watching porn, any ED was gone, I have full erections again, and I can masturbate to very tame things. It's all about the porn in my eyes.
Actively watch porn or avoiding it 100%? I mean I admit I'll glance at the occasional webm on this site, but I don't jack it and don't go it for long or very actively, kinda just "huh that's pretty hot" and move on.
NoFap is a placebo. If that works for you, it's fine, but it's not masturbation's fault that you're a fucking loser.
>>27178090
I'm on my day 7 and already know that it is absolutly the best thing I'v done for a long time... I attract girls much more now when I gained motivation and confidence.
I stopped masturbating for 2016 and have lost 2 and a half stone since then. not even meme'ing. it's not that nofap made me lose weight, but while I was masturbating it was very easy for me to overeat and I frequently was too tired to workout
there's no benefit to masturbation and there are only benefits for not doing it. it's only logical not to do it
>>27181094
>I stopped having sex for 2016 and have lost 2 and a half stone since then. not even meme'ing. it's not that nosex made me lose weight, but while I was having sex it was very easy for me to overeat and I frequently was too tired to workout
>there's no benefit to having sex and there are only benefits for not doing it. it's only logical not to do it
this is how retarded you nofap pseudo-intellectuals sound
your body cannot tell the difference between sex and jerking off, the problems you're having aren't because you jerk off, you're having problems because you jerk off to porn, and you jerk off to porn because you're a beta faggot
>>27178090
Why do you keep shilling this sex-negative propaganda?
Also, that "argument" in your amazing /pol/-tier "infographic" is complete bullshit.
>>27179725
1, how do I know you are not lying to me?
2, how do I know this study is not a coincidence, since it's apparently the first of its kind?
>>27181217
>your body cannot tell the difference between sex and jerking off
This is the exact point NoFap makes - if you jack it, your body is satisfied with that. It has no motivation to seek sex 'cause as far as it's concerned it's already getting sex many times a day when you fap. So you stop fapping and "force" yourself to seek release through women only. It's not magic, it's like an additional thing to motivate you, kinda like saying "I'm not gonna eat crisps or play vidya until I get laid". Except, it is believed, that at some point you'll get so sexually frustrated that you'll become more reckless and brave, Chad-like to use r9k lingo, and may have more success because of it.
> Low self esteem because you think you're a failure and kind of a pervert.
Nope.
> You think you're kind of a failure and possibly a pervert because you masturbate all the time.
Nope.
This is some catholic summer camp tier shit, do people actually read this and think "Yeah this makes sense"
>>27178090
Yes, several times but I always give up before a week.
Fuck off with your embarrassing pseudo-Christian bro science. Cumming in a woman is 10000x more stimulating than porn, so unless you intend to become a celibate monk, you're full of shit.
reminder that abstinence from masturbation correlates with an increased prostate cancer risk
>>27178392
nigga me too, let's do it
how much are you doing, i think 1 month is good for starters.
>>27178700
>and that women are only there for sex
hurr
>>27179716
>That's literally it. It's not your shyness, it's not your "lack of game", it's simply the fact that girls don't feel phsyically attracted to you.
This needs to be said more.
>>27178377
>It's partly about breaking out of your comfort zone
This is really it. This is what all that pua redpill and nofap shit have in common.
THIS, is the nugget of truth buried beneath the truck ton of pseudoscience garbage. Its not a new concept, you'd get the same results (POWERS!!!) from regular diet and exercise.
Nofap is so appealing because you dont need to do shit or expose yourself to participate.
Truth is there isnt an easy out to fix yourself. Its about pushing your boundaries. The novelty of it will wear off, your obsession over it will fade. Just be weary of any kind of magic epiphany solution that tries to sell you books and merchandise to learn more. You all should be smarter than that.
>>27178090
I can't get a girl cause I'm fucking ugly, so no, I'll pass.
>>27178090
What if I have no problem getting girls, but I just objectively weighed the pros/cons and don't want to be with one because I'll only get hurt in the end?
If I jerk off, I get the same release and I also avoid: STDs, heartbreak, emotional problems, worries, money troubles, lost work hours
What am I missing here? Why exactly should I be chasing slutty women to begin with?
I did NoFap for 25 days and I felt amazing, well apart from the wet dreams every other night.
The brainfog was cleared, I was social, optimistic, relaxed. I was smiling all the time, I got a number of compliments from women, too. I felt like my old self. I read a book, something I didn't do at all last year.
Then valentine's day came around and I guess the loneliness become too overwhelming and I gave into my urges.
You guys keep calling it pseudoscience, but I think it's pretty obvious that you're obliterating your reward center. You're giving yourself one of the best feeling you're capable of feeling with practically no effort. You're training yourself not to ever actually work hard at anything when the time comes. Not a difficult concept to understand.
>>27181498
1 month seems good, but it looks like it will be difficult
I've got exams so it would be nice to have a lil energy boost
>>27181793
Do you think you're fooling anyone? Do you even believe what you wrote?
>>27178307
truth here
noPorn and lessFap is where the money is.
>>27181793
posting epic autism nuke desu
>>27181793
why u lying tho
nawh, I'm pretty sure I cant get a girl because I don't talk to girls. I think majority of the ones in my town are disgusting pigs and bar sluts.
>>27181952
Do you really think anyone better than a strawman would even remotely believe this?
>>27182026
That's kind of an unhealthy attitude. Hard to get rid of, though.
>>27178090
Nice bait still no proof? nice try
I have nofapped for 6 months as a virgin.
ask me all things.
>I'm shy because I have low self esteem
Proof that no fap is for literal normies. The only way you can think like that is if you assume being outgoing is the natural state. No there are many types of people and I'm not one of the outgoing types. Three is nothing "wrong" with me. Fuck off with this normie propaganda.
>>27182053
I was like you before I tried it.
>>27182113
A person without confidence is a shell of their potential self.
>>27182113
This. I've seen several shy people that had no problem in regards to their self esteem or anything related. I'm only shy myself cause people treat me like a monster because of a facial deformity I was born with. Thing is, I don't even care about it, but interacting with people has become impossible because all they do is pick on me all the time.
>>27178090
>You masturbate because you can't get a girl
I hope you can back that up
>You can't get a girl because you're really shy
I don't have this problem but i see nothing wrong with it. Do you even try?
>You're really shy because you have low self-esteem
What is this high school? Are you for real?
>You have low self-esteem because you think you're kind of a failure and possibly a pervert
Now you're trolling might want to stop
>You think you're kind of a failure and possibly a pervert because you masturbate all the time
Um how about no? confirmed for trolling stop it you're bad at it!
>BREAK THE CYCLE
ALL CAPS LOLOLOL
I'll break my cycle through you're anus troll.
>>27182196
Fedora.jpg try harder faggot
>>27182152
>I was like you before I tried it.
You mean you didn't believe obvious bullshit posted on the internet? I see.
Other than that, I actually have no problem doing my personal business or smiling or whatever the hell you mentioned in your short tale.
>>27181793
PUA nofappers have the end goal wrong.
You will still be unsatisfied with casual sex or even a gf, because we are really meant for marriage and family. There's something even higher than sex with a girlfriend. Even if you get laid you are still just using a woman to pleasure yourself.
Even normie Chad's are empty inside and every bit as much manchildren as robots, because they still haven't realized that our ancestors were right and MARRIAGE is really important. You don't do nofap to get laid. You do it to seek a wife and ultimately replace yourself by raising kids because that's really what you are missing.
>>27182232
What sort of facial deformity?
>>27178090
this pseudo logic becomes completely irrelevant once you realize chads masturbate all the time and still get girls anyway
Started no fap February and fapped just this past weekend. It is enlightening and I feel that I have better control of the urge now. Maybe go once every two weeks.
Confidence and anxiety levels are better maintained now.
>>27182407
Moebius syndrome.
>>27182462
Get off my board you cunt, MODS!
>>27178090
no thanks, fapping is my only way of relaxing from my stress and helping control my anxiety
>>27178090
Excessive masturbation can be bad, but nofap is nothing but a fucking meme.
>>27182557
This /thread were done here folks
>>27182557
I think nofap alone is a meme, unless you change your entire outlook and either seek a celibate life with a greater purpose in mind (Studies etc.) or a wife and family. Otherwise you will just turn from a porn addict to a casual sex addict.
>>27178090
>you can't get a girl because your shy
false
approaching or not approaching girls has nothing to do with it. even if i had the most confidence in the world, if i just go up a to a girl and say hi and have nothing interesting to talk about, nobody will care.
also i don't have a girl because i don't want to deal with that shit. fapping is much better. if i was ever even thinking about getting a gf i'd get a bf instead because women are stupid.
also i think im a failure because i've literally never acomplished anything in my entire life. fapping may or may not have played a minor role in that, but it certainly was not what i'd call a major factor.
>>27182352
When was the last time you saw a successful person with no confidence?
>>27182557
Excessive anything is bad. The health benefits of semen retention can be traced back to ancient China.
>>27182657
Exactly, most people don't understand that NoFap is a catalyst more than anything else, placebo or not, if it can get you moving, then it has done it's job.
https://youtu.be/-drLXv8NdiA
GUTEN TAG LEDDIT!!!
>>27182811
I don't think theres anything wrong with having frequent sex with your wife. I think people too obsessed with semen retention even within a marriage are taking it too far
I also think the REAL thing to do that for most people is much, MUCH harder than nofap, is quitting the internet as a whole
As someone on my 2nd week of nofap I don't see how that will be possible, one thing at a time.
>>27181979
>Do you think you're fooling anyone? Do you even believe what you wrote?
What the hell are you talking about? Why wouldn't I believe it?
>>27178090
what if none of those things are true, but I still fap and watch porn?
Should I stop anyway?
>>27182811
>When was the last time you saw a successful person with no confidence?
All the successful unconfident writers, scientists, philosophers, sports players, etc., included?
(not him btw)
>>27182840
I don't think there's anything wrong with it, either, as long as you like doing it with her and not just because you want to plug her holes.
Most of the guys that are in relationships and decide to do NoFap are usually doing it because they have ED or don't find their partners attractive.
>>27182399
>Even normie Chad's are empty inside and every bit as much manchildren as robots
This is why I don't really get the Chad hate on here
I am pretty good friends with some Chads and you can tell they're just as confused and fucked up as other men are (in some ways they're worse off than robots because shoving your dick into strange women is a great way to bring baggage into your life)
>tfw fapped so much I got a shitty looking welt on my dick so I can't have sex anyway
Oh well. I tried not fapping previously, lasted only a week at most and saw no changes
>>27183001
If you want to look at it in /pol/ terms, postmodern Western man has been split into two groups, the nigger-ified and the gook-ified. The ideal man in the past was neither.
>>27182399
Except people are also miserable in marriage. So life is just a pile of shit.
"Happiness is a dream, and sorrow is real." - Voltaire
Stay asleep and embrace the 2D world.
>>27182988
>All the successful unconfident writers
So you're telling me someone would write a book and go through the process of getting it published if they didn't believe in their abilities? Same goes for all the other professions. An unconfident professional athlete? Are you serious, my man?
Maybe you are confused by what I mean when I say no confidence? I'm not talking about being an introvert, you know. I'm talking about someone who doesn't believe in themselves, someone that thinks they are shit and that there's no point in trying. The average robot essentially, myself included, but I'm trying to change that.
can i have one last wank??? i feel guilty cause i've put this off so many times
>>27178090
Guys, I don't know if you're up-to-date on /r/science/, but NoFap was scientifically disproven on SciShow. NoPoop is supported by the latest science.
Join us at our thread >>27182707
>>27179725
You have literally zero proof to back this up. This is just wild speculation with a half-assed understanding of everything involved.
>>27183180
I think your trolling go away
>>27181345
Sex is the single greatest motivator of all time. Civilizations were built because no bitch it gonna get with a nigga that ain't got a job and some spare change to spend on her. Porn really is evil.
I know this, but then I forget it. I'll see someone say how ridiculous no fap is and then it will all seem so ridiculous and I'll look up doctors saying masturbation is fine and think I'm crazy and I'll fap.
How do I stop this from happening?
To all the naysayer's who think it's all bullshit, I ask you: what do you have to lose by trying it for yourself? If you're so certain nothing will happen, prove it. If you don't have the willpower to stop fapping for a month to see for yourself once and for all if this is bullshit, then you should be ashamed of yourself.
>>27183627
>Sex is the single greatest motivator of all time
For sub humans yes
>Civilizations were built because no bitch it gonna get with a nigga that ain't got a job and some spare change to spend on her
You know nothing about love my friend and society is a complete joke if you look around instead of ignoring it
>Porn really is evil
Opinion go join a church
Your lost i think it's time you just went ahead and shot yourself.
>>27183684
>what do you have to lose by trying it for yourself?
I think the better question is what do i have to gain? proof? you spout bullshit sir.
>>27183627
If you can do it go full on No-internet. you might even see better improvements than just with no fap
>>27183808
Probably. I think I'm too addicted and weak willed to change that though. 4chan is the only place I can socialize without being constantly terrified of how others are perceiving me (although it still bothers me on here).
>tfw hypersensitive narcissist
>>27178090
All that happens when I nofap is I get random boners, and it's very noticable.
>>27178090
It's my first day on a new cycle. From what I've heard, it doesn't actually boost your testosterone levels, but rather, improves your testosterone receptors. i.e. you'll still have the same level of testosterone in your blood, though it will actually be put to more use. Is this broscience? I've read it from legitimate scientific sources.
I'm single and will be my whole life's. No fap will do literally nothing for me.
>/r/
4chan isn't even trying to hide the fact it's reddit anymore.
>>27181793
best orgasm i ever had was with a girl i felt very intimate with. it didn't even feel comparable to my "normal" jerking off orgasms.then she left me for her ex after 2 weeks so now ive relapsed to jerking off to gross porn constatnly
Is anyone else doing NoPoop, /r9k/? It's been 12 days and I can already feel the extra vitamns and nutrients absorped from the fecal matter I
swear I have more energy and can feel the nutrients sworling into my tissues and nourishing my brain just like the TEDx talk
I also WAY more confident with women. I've gotten a lot of comments about my posture and stern expression that have come from abstaining Im sure of it and Im going to talk to another woman today
How goes your NoPoop journy, /r9k/?
This is what you all you no fap faggot sound like stop it or go to another website maybe post proof.
Yeah op I'm one day into nofap it's pretty awesome
>>27178700
>Porn creates unreallistic expectations and standards for our sex lives. Porn tells us that eventually some hot bimbo with huge tits and ass will want to fuck, and that women are only there for sex.
>Porn also tells us that we're all supposed to have perfect 9 inch cocks, which fucks with self esteem and creates body image issues.
Lol, maybe if you're an impressionable idiot. If you spend a fair amount of time browsing porn sites, you find all different shapes and sizes of people. When you see a performer who is particularly big-titted or well-endowed or whatever, it makes you say "wow", because you've seen a lot of porn and know that not all people have big tits or dicks.
If you wanted to give a better argument as to why porn in excess is bad for a man it's that it invariably leads to observer fetishes.
>>27180284
Pretty much this.
>>27180284
Fucking saved for no fap retards
>>27184191
I don't want someone to cuck me, but I want to wear a cock cage so fucking bad. I have no self control when it comes to fapping, and wearing one of those 24/7 would be so fucking hot.
>>27184028
Anyone got some literature on this? I'm interested to see this source.
>>27184566
It's pretty lewd senpai. I don't have a very high libido, but it's a turn on to be forced to wear it.
>tfw plugged and caged
>>27184566
You have to give someone control over your dick though. They could decide to abuse that power and you'd be fucked. Unless that's why it's hot... Idk, I don't really understand these things.
>>27178090
Save it, OP. It's pointless trying to explain to 4chan why masturbating and watch porn is bad because they'll pretty much just stick their fingers in their ears and act like they can't hear you.
Quitting fapping/watching porn will take them out of their comfort zone for the better, and for some reason, that's something this board doesn't want to do.
>>27183800
In the cost benefit analysis, we have costs: don't get to fap for a month. Benefits: proof, or all the benefits nofap advocates claim. Even if you think they're wrong, a skeptic would say that the costs aren't that bad, so you might as well give it a shot because there is always the chance that you could be wrong.
>>27184735
Do you walk around like that in public without people knowing? I think that's what would be most enticing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/2f7p10/can_someone_show_actual_scientific_studies_that/
Look at that complete absence of citations.
One user links to 'yourbrainonporn.com' which is based around this absolutely groundbreaking study that revealed, wait for it, masturbation is linked to parts of the brain that are linked to addiction (the basal ganglia, to be specific).
Nevermind the fact that addiction itself is a topic of some debate in neuroscience (it seems not to be exclusively linked to the basal ganglia, but the prefrontal cortex and other parts of the frontal lobe).
My guess is it's mostly placebo, or association. They either think it will work, so it does, or they think there's something wrong with porn, so they feel bad.
People (idiots) are quick to make judgments about the complexity of the mind. Even the age old 'nature or nurture' debate is still an area of contention.
>>27184826
I haven't gone out with the plug yet, but I have with the cage a few days ago. It was hard to hold a conversation because I was thinking lewd thoughts but nobody could tell afaik.
>>27178090
>instantly assumes that not masturbating = self worth
kek'd
>>27185037
That sounds like heaven :3 Do you go full sissy out in public, too, or nay?
I'm on day three. Hopefully I can last more than a week and get my test up.
>>27185006
Holy crap these people are idiots:
>Eze-Wong +2 points
>Cereal? Garbage food. But was touted as a healthy breakfast fortified with vitamins because the wheat industry has vested interests in the FDA.
Couldn't be the milk, eh, fuckhead? Most cereal that isn't sugary crap made for kids is good for you. Raisin bran is good for you, cornflakes and wheat biscuits are good for you. Oats, if they count, are good for you.
>Aspirin? We dont even know how it works. It would blow your mind how pharma is actually developed and how little is understood about the underlying mechanisms of medicine.
"My understanding of science is outdated by at least forty-five years"
Aspirin renders impotent enzymes associated with inflammation. The mechanism of action has been known since the 1970s.
>Dont believe "scientific" studies as foolproof evidence. The world is flat was science 300 years ago. Theres a lot of things we believe that is utter bunk but rooted in some study.
"What most people believed = science huehuehuehue hurrr durr hurr."
Even the ancient Greeks knew the Earth was a sphere.
Fucking hell reddit is just full of dipshits.
>>27185124
Well I'm mtf so I don't really delve into that sort of fetish stuff, but I do dress like a woman obviously lol.
No, I fap because I'm horny all the time and if I don't I act on hormonal impulse and push too hard to get pussy. The fact that I'm a disgusting pervert with a list of absolutely disgusting fetishes doesn'T affect my self-esteem in the slightest, I accept it very well. In fact, being aware that I'm a disgusting pervert kind of turns me on more. Like those slutty moe bitches from the Laotian porn pictographs.
My problem is that since I fap a lot to regulate my constant horny state, it means that I have no sexual drive when I am in situations where I can attempt to get laid, but if I don't I get desperate as fuck and become pushy in my flirting, leading me to get rejected pretty damn early.
I don't know what to do, discipline myself in my state of horniness like some Shonen anti-hero on a training quest to regulate his murderous intent or just find the correct ammount of fapping to keep at least enough sexual desire to get laid.
>people think all the nofap threads aren't shilling shit
The guy who copyrighted the term nofap and runs the /r/nofap subreddit is also the man who has monetized it and does shit like this.
>>27178090
I know you're just trying to meme at me but I'm also currently doing no porn/masturbation/orgasm but that's part of my "changing myself" routine, so even if someone points at me I'm not an example of how no PMO changes one's life
>>27178997
Man, why do we even need to point this out? Reminds me of the fucking androids trying to prove empathy was bullshit in 'Do Androids Dream' by PKD.
Anyone can tell you that porn fucks you up and that jacking it to it over three times a day will definitely damage you. Studies aren't even necessary.
>>27178862
Can we just stick to actually judging someone on the merit and validity of their ideas, as opposed to questioning their credentials? If you want to refute something, it's intellectually lazy to do anything BUT debunking the evidence/data provided.
>>27178090
>still trying to succeed
You're not a robot
I watch porn and whack the weasel for hours every day.
I have no purpose on this planet, I hate women, and I want to die
>>27183627
I think you should accept what your opinion seems to be.
Which is that nofap is a load of shit, don't go all doublethink on me here.
>>27185688
>Anyone can tell you that porn fucks you up and that jacking it to it over three times a day will definitely damage you
Sure, I will buy that.
But the solution is not abstinence, you retard.
Moderation in all things, including shitposting.
>>27185171
Wasn't reddit supposed to be all pseudo intellectuals?
Where did all this new-age bullshit come from?
>>27184748
The idea is willingly giving away control to someone else you trust.
>>27178666
>unable to get aroused when you're just one on one with an average female, or aroused by normal things like seeing an attractive woman walk by.
I wish.
