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Questfags officially #btfo from /tg/! Based Hiroyuki!
You act like it's a bad thing for them, but having an entirely new board for quests sounds great to me. I haven't browsed /tg/ too often before, but now I have an interest in both /tg/ and /qst/, for different reasons. People get so excited about "containment boards" that they lose sight of all the positives that come with the creation of a new board. Just that grumpy "ban everything that I don't like" 4chan attitude at work.
>>511694
I actually don't hate the idea of quests. What I do hate is that Questfags forced themselves onto our board and have been actively fighting against the creation of their own board.
They're even telling people to spam /tg/ with quests now.
>>511705
Well, those people are just retards and hopefully the mods will deal with them. Most people were just looking for a place to put their quests and are happy to move.
>>511691
>>>/qst/4113
>The real solution is a boycott and a refusal to use /qst/ until it becomes clear that this isn't working. Highly encourage that, in fact.
well there you have it. They're refusing to use /qst/. We need mod support on this.
>>511691
Much better idea than /film/
WHAT E FUCK
>>511756
Don't pay any mind to that joker.
>>>/qst/4918
>Also, I am strongly considering the advice of those peers toward continuing to run on /tg/ both in protest and spite of this situation until it can prove tenable or our migration is forced more directly.
We're going to need the mods
>>511916
Don't worry. The mods don't just toss a board out there and then go back to smoking weed. When they create a board, they have every intention of moderating it.
>>511694
seconding this
>>5528
>Running on friday
>>5538
>running on saturday
Two more questfags planning to raid /tg/
>>512012
Whoops
>>>/qst/5528
>Running on friday
>>>/qst/5538
>running on saturday
Two more questfags planning to raid /tg/
>>511916
>waaah but I always shat in THIS corner
Everytime the same. Lets just hope mods wont cave in like moot did after /vg/ creation on /v/.
>>>/qst/5862
>Nobody who's opinion matters wants this board.
>People who don't quest don't have any business voicing their opinions in this matter.
what did he mean by this
>>511710
Actually the mods are being smart and deleting anti-quest posts in quests on /tg/
>>512082
Questfags are and always have been cancer. I'd rather share a board with Reddit than you.
We are finally going to get our board back and you're going to be stuck in /qst/. If you can't handle that you should fucking kill yourself
>>511694
It isn't. /tg/ was great because it had an overlap of people who were interested in it.
No one is going to /qst/ to read downs baby quest, an actual quest someone thought they would get a few giggles from if they started it. That would be considered spam and deleted almost immediately on /tg/ but it's just fine on qst for some reason.
It's a quality drop that I'm not willing to accept as someone who participates in quests.
>>512083
>WE'RE GONNA GET OUR BOARD BACK
Bad news, you've had your board this whole time. Nothing was stopping you from making a thread that was 'good'.
The only thing stopping you is that the other people, 'your' people, are just as cancerous as the reddit and quest scum you hate so much. So enjoy that board that is now filled with people who will continue to shitpost until the end of time.
>>511771
No, it's all of them. Which is just bizarre. I cannot figure out why they would fight against a new board, one specifically for them, so damn hard.
You could give them gold and they'd complain it was heavy.
I guess one of those 6-10 autists that used to make meta threads on tg became a mod
>>512461
none of them asked for it
>>512461
>You give them a gold painted rock and they complain that it's just painted. And that it's sitting on top of them, killing them.
FTFY
>>512483
I guess I have to congratulate you for not pulling the obligatory food=shit analogy.
>>512461
But WHY was there the need for a new board when there might be 12 threads per day at max? What was the problem with the way things were?
>>512513
High count last Saturday was 17 across the entire day, when the board was made yesterday there were 5.
>>512526
Sorry, is this a strike against quests? There are more smut threads on /tg/ right now.
>>512539
It wasn't really to support either side, I was just giving some numbers as a point of reference.
The interestign thing is that every comment of quest hate was accompanied by blatantly untrue numbers (25% increase of quests every year for 8 years! 50% of /tg/ is quests! 35 quest threads at the same time!) all proven untrue.
12 unique IPs saying "yay quests are banned" against 300 saying "don't do this board dude".
All prioven if you bother to read tha feedback thread.
And quests are the problem all right. Surely. Just watch what will change when they go away. Same thing that will happen when /wst/ went away.
Nothing. Just a new target chosen for shitspammign and hate. Just as predicted by /wst/ previously.
>>512541
/qst/ actually sounds pretty fun desu
Why do they hate it so much desu?
>>512553
Wouldn't mostly fans of quests be going to the quest board in the first place though? Why don't you make a thread on /tg/ and see if those numbers hold up?
>>512080
The board is still in trial phase and isn't working properly at all. Posting real quests in it will not be good for anyone, including /tg/ because if the board fails, they'll be back in /tg/ whether /tg/ likes it or not.
>>512558
That's why the numbers do hold up.
Tell you what though. Go post in a few of the shit threads just to see how well the board functions. Mo refresh, you have to do it manually. Auto update works half the time, and you get kill script messages every ten posts or so. No archives except a temporary one posted by a friend to /tg/ (and quests at the same time, believe it or not).
Right now, the board is useless to the people they want to put there.
>>512554
I am not sure. I like how there is finally drawing outside of /i/, which should help a lot of quick sketches. I don't see a lot of us for BB code, but I imagine that different characters "speaking" in different colors would be cool.
>>512568
True desu
Guess good things don't last long I guess desu
Sucks because I started lurking and it looks great t b h famalam desu
>>512554
Quests work because they're on the boards their topic is. /o/ quests gets players because /o/ browsers see it and thinks it's interesting. An /o/ quest would die on /tg/ or /qst/ because people with that interest aren't already on the board.
Quests get players by being related to the board topic and people being interested in their particular topic, they stumble upon them. People don't normally stumble upon entire boards, they go to the boards that they already have a pre-defined interest in. No one has a pre-existing interest in quests, no one can stumble upon then, they get no new users.
And so the board would have its initial users, and a few new ones there for the new board smell and then slowly die. Because there's no inherent attraction to the board itself.
>>512558
The example he quoted (12 IPs etc) was on /tg/. In particular, it was the initial proposal thread.
>>512574
That makes sense. I think that the problem really lies with the subject matter. The average D&D player probably has nothing with Lich Lord Quest, but I imagine that High School Girl Quest would probably have to be scooted over to /a/ and of course the automotive quest left on /o/.
>>512558
This is an understandable way of thinking about something from a cursory glance, but it doesn't hold up if you look at it closer.
If the board were something like "Creative Writing" or "Collaborative Gaming", then people with those interests - Both to write, or to read/play in those types of things - Would indeed go to /qst/ looking for those things. One of (many) problems here is that quests are simply too niche to support their own board, and it's rare that anyone deliberately goes searching for them. They see quests while browsing topics related to them, and walk into them out of passing interest.
This is how a lot of people find anime, or games, or even other roleplaying systems. There is rarely a dedicated search effort involved, so much as seeing something interesting around other things.
It only exasperates the issue when you toss up terms like CYOA or Quest or Collaborative Storytelling, etc. And they all refer to the same thing.
The text formatting tools are wonderful, and the built-in doodling might be pretty cool, I don't think anyone has complained about the tools. The primary concern here has been pretty firmly rooted in the unsustainable nature of the board topic as presented. If you take it at face value it's intriguing and interesting, but if you look at it in the long term then it paints a fairly grim future of isolation from that wandering interest, and being too niche to keep itself properly afloat.
>>512581
>Abloo bloo bloo, I can't advertise my anime fan fiction on /tg/ anymore
He isn't even trying to hide it
Though it isn't a problem with /qst/ specifically, the feedback thread is also occupied with people like >>512586 who seem more concerned with being antagonistic about the whole thing and "GET OUT OF MY BOARD REEEEE" than any discussion or actual feedback regarding the state of /qst/ or how it will affect the community/content that is meant to go there.
They don't like thing, and we get that, but their opinion on Thing has no relevance to the conditions of /qst/ or the future of content and people expected to be there.
Regardless of whether the board is /tg/ or anywhere else, these >>512581 same problems apply, because they are an issue that needs to be taken into account when deciding how to handle a board specifically for a type of content.
Unfortunately, a great deal of the over 3k posts in the feedback thread are literally just dedicated shitposters going "REEE" and "GET OUT" and stirring up shit with people arguing over whether quests are /tg/ or not rather than any real feedback on the board itself.
>>511694
The issue is that the /qst/ board isn't allowing meta threads. So you can't do things like discuss how to run quests, do schedualing, etc. or things like that.
The other issue is that it has a 48 hour kill timer on all threads. They autosage after that point, punishing art fags and slow quest runners, who are the best ones.
The problem is the mod making this thing has never actually participated in quests before.
>>512632
>remove 48 hour timer
>make the board red
>allow a single general thread
>actually make people use it instead of this limp wristed bullshit
that would fix literally everything about /qst/
>>512732
it would just die a little slower
>>512574
But /tg/ doesn't have unique IPs, so there is no way to tell which unique IPs belong to who.
>>512737
*IDs
>>512611
The problem is that if /tg/ posters dont post in the feedback thread then the /qst/ posters can try to manipulate their way back into /tg/. We have a vested interest in that thread, while the /qst/ people are trying to shut us all down and say there's only 12 of us (?)
If the mods would actually assure us that Quests are gone for good then we'd leave them alone to solve the problems with their board. Until then we can't do anything but argue.
There's also the fact that /qst/ posters don't WANT to fix /qst/. They're actively trying to push people off the board and onto /tg/ so they can pretend that /qst/ wouldn't work. They're not posting threads or using the board, then complaining about a lack of traffic. This needs to stop.
>>512746
>push off
>*stay on
FTFY
>>512372
Enjoy your forced migration, faggot.
>>512632
>the board is too slow! there isn't even 4 pages of content after a whole day!
>autosage is going to kill threads!!
Pick one or the other retard. Autosage doesn't kill threads it just prevents them from being bumped. If there aren't enough threads to hit the board limit then it's irrelevant.
Fucking idiot quest cancer desperate to stay on /tg/ will say anything.
>>512732
>ignore the main problem of the board and everything will be better!
>>512797
Yeah, but you would have to do that moment by moment though. No archives show how many IPs there were at every time. Even then it wouldn't be entirely accurate, as I can post here with a phone and still get a different IP.
>>512814
I don't claim anything by it myself, that's just the claim. Someone claimed they only found 12 IDs in the /tg/ discussion thread, that's why that's the current oft-quoted number. It fell in line with other people's claims about the low number when meta threads pop up. The anti-questers don't even claim that they were a lot of people loudly complaining usually, only that they have a 'silent majority', so there's never really been any challenge to it from either side that I've noticed.
Leaving this here just for sake of presenting the facts.
my faec when Hiro literally did it
>>512574
>>512581
>>512735
>giving quests their own board will never work!
Problem with that argument: you have no proof of it whatsoever because that hypothesis has never been tested. Until a test is done it's just that: a hypothesis. It's being tested now, with the trial board. But you whiny crybabies are intentionally trying to disrupt the trial by pulling shit like this >>511756
>>511916
>>512746
because you're so fucking conceited and prideful that the idea that people don't want you on their board offends you to the very core of your being. So you throw temper tantrums like third graders in an attempt to GUARANTEE the board's failure so that when it does fail (because of your tantrums) you can say "see, I told you it would never work!" and convince Hiro to demolish his newly-built bathroom so you can go back to shitting in the gameroom like you love to do so much.
>>513069
4 bane quests
wow, what a brave new world
>>513069
actual QMs have tried
they lose followers
quests aren't some fucking cult. its a hobby that dropped as quickly as it was picked up
>>513078
the initial shitposting phase should die down in a few days
Hiro shouldn't have made a quest board. It's only exacerbating a mistake moot made: to put all the quest threads in one place. Removing that rule is what should have been done, not making it worse by making a board just for them.
>>513206
If you don't like it don't go there.
>>513208
I personally can't care less about quests. I've been on /tg/ for a while and I know how much many of them dislike quests. The problem can and should be fixed, but a quest board is not the way to do it.
Come to think of it, ever since Hiro took over, there have been many problems that have been affected like this: they were fixed, but not in the way they should have been. He probably genuinely cares about 4chan, but is too inexperienced to know how to fix its problems.
>>513220
It's "could care less" you idiot.
>>513222
Could care less means you do care
>>513222
No, he literally cannot care less about quests. He is at the absolute minimum amount of caring possible towards them.
>>513181
I expect all of posting to die out for the most part
>>513239
This seems like the most likely outcome.
If the mods aren't going to force a migration of quest threads from /tg/ to /qst/ they might as well delete /qst/ now. Questers aren't going to migrate willingly, and even those who would be willing to give the new board a chance are going to be discouraged from doing so by by the majority of questers who are boycotting the board.
>>513264
why did you wait 30 mins to play the "I was just pretending to be retarded" card?
you didn't tripfag and this board doesn't use IDs, you could have just ignored your mistake
>>513222
I may visit /tg/ and know of its problem with quests, but it isn't my home board, half of my activity there is within a single general and I don't bother with quests. Why should I care about something I don't bother with?
>>513267
Because I was off doing other things and I knew it would lead to more salt. Delicious.
>>513281
You are such an epic troll, bro. Great success! My wife!
You know, mods could you know, move quests over to /qst/ like they do to /trash/ threads.
And then ban the dissenters.
>>513765
They are enforcing the rules. No meta is a rule, no questing isn't.
>>513765
>literally spamming /tg/ with shitposts right now
But they aren't. Why would you lie on the internet like that, anon?
>>514221
There are like 12 quests on /tg/ right now. Every one of them is a shitpost
