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Problems with /vp/: Part Two
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The last thread died, so let's have another one.
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>gardevoir threads
>stealth furry threads
>RP threads
>genwar threads
>gardevoir threads

and all this shit stays up for hours if theres any rule breaking because fuck /vp/ with moderation
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Underage.
You can just tell it from the posts, the type of memes that "originate" there, the types of URLs and images that are frequently posted, etc
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Lucario threads are also a problem, but at least the Goodra wars and Rotom everyday have finally died.

Also, lately the porn threads only last an hour before a mod shows up, so they are getting better.
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>>467106
It'll get better. We must have patience.
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Mods started deleting "/vp/ watches" threads for no reason.
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>>467224
Global rule 11
>Advertising (all forms) is not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.
>stream threads
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>>467263
Rubbish, that's such a barebones technicality and exceptions are made all the time, especially on /vg/.

Streaming was specifically mentioned in that rule to prevent faggots on /v/ from advertising their Let's Play streams on /v/; something they can make a profit from.

This "/vp/ watches" stream isn't run to profit or promote a "personality", it was made to bring the community together for fun. Considering how barren /vp/ can be at times in terms of discussion, this was absolutely a positive idea, and only a select few were against it. If all it takes is for a select few to protest, then why aren't the Gardevoir generals being deleted? Those threads are as shit as they come.
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>>467263
What about the Showderp threads then?

>>>/vp/25570921

70% of the posts (including the OP) have referral links, and they're links to Showdown battles, which are basically the same thing as streams.

Double standards?
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>>467090
>>stealth furry threads
>stealth
Hell, we're currently being bombed by porn posts.
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>>467084
Also, fake leak threads are annoying to me.
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>>467224
Yeah that's stupid. They're fun.
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Anime general
Post quality
Obvious underage that still haven't been permabanned like the Alomomola fag
Furries
Gardevoir general
RP threads
Gardevoir general
Fake leaks
Gardevoir general
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Is this the thread that coordinates frogposting and tailsposting attacks on threads they don't like?
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>>467689
Tailsposter is more likely to attack this thread seeing how ass backwards he is
Eventually the cancerous fags mentioned in this thread will catch wind of it though and shitpost here until we 404. Happened last time.
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>>467276
>This "/vp/ watches" stream isn't run to profit or promote a "personality", it was made to bring the community together for fun. Considering how barren /vp/ can be at times in terms of discussion, this was absolutely a positive idea

I dunno.
Here's a thread from today:
>>>/vp/25581562
Got archived, not deleted, without a single post.

Here's another one from Friday:
>>>/vp/25544063
Not a single post there either.

These things genuinely only get posts when either
>this one guy bumps it every 20-30 minutes with contentless "new episode starting" posts
>people bitch about the chat being shitty
>people come from elsewhere to bitch about people spamming links to the chat on other boards

It really does feel like some private community that doesn't actually care about posting on /vp/ and 4chan in general and just do so to promote an offsite chat.
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>>467787
But that's exactly what Showderp does as well; the vast majority of it is links to battles. How come that's ok, but alerting /vp/ anons of a new episode isn't? It's basically the same thing.

The reason there's little discussion in the threads is because it's easier to discuss things in the chat, as it's right alongside the screen. Again, exactly the same as Showderp.
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>>467797
You're not understanding what I'm saying, anon. The point is that these threads are made by and for a community that doesn't use them. When that community is being shitty and spamming all over 4chan, the threads are active because people come there to tell them to fuck off. When the community ISN'T being shitty, the threads just die without a single post because nobody cares. The community sit in their chat and don't post on 4chan, and other people don't come to the threads to bitch because the community is sitting in their chat instead of shitposting.

I don't use Showderp and have no idea what their threads are like, but they're clearly active. These stream threads ONLY get activity when the community is shitting up other boards to the extent people go there to complain. They really don't serve a purpose.
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>>467803
>The point is that these threads are made by and for a community that doesn't use them
Based on your cherry picked threads? How about the ones that actually did have discussion?

>When that community is being shitty and spamming all over 4chan
One person.

You're clearly not well informed.

>the threads just die without a single post because nobody cares
Again, that's just you're cherry picked rubbish. If you weren't so selective with your thread choices, you'd find there has been discussion. Even if there's little discussion, you're clearly not seeing the double standard.

>I don't use Showderp
There we go, you have absolutely no position to argue anymore.

Showderp might have consistent posts, but rarely is there any discussion in those threads because they have not one, not two, but three external chats: showdown in-battle chat, showdown menu chat and even a discord? Not enough? They even have a subreddit.

Apparently that's ok though, they're Showderp therefore the mods give them a free pass. God forbid anyone tries anything new, that would distract from the cancerous genwars and furfag generals that make up 90% of /vp/ these days.
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>>467810
I'm just making an observation, anon. How long have these things been around? A bit over a week? How many total threads has there been, five? Six? Pointing to two threads that got literally zero posts each is not selective cherrypicking, that's an entire one third of every thread you've made. That's not having double standards. /vp/ only come to them to complain about the community being shitty, and the community only comes to them to either defend themselves or post the name of whatever episode is airing in order to bump it. That's literally it.

When half the discussion in your threads is
>fuck off and stop spamming your links all over
>it's not us, it's some fag from /b/
you might want to reevaluate whether you really want those threads around or not.
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>>467810
Showderp does not make any profit out of it, though, because essentially it's just some guy battling under some other guy's simulator that is used as an official simulator of a fan-made metagame. See? None of this involve advertising. If anything, if you attempt to become too famous with tripfagging and whatnot, you get shat on, because the only tripcode that should be accepted, bar suggestions that requires the champ to choose and then get a suggestion based on their choice, is the current champion's and nobody else's.

While on a stream, even if it has no advertisement whatsoever at first, you are growing fame as a result. People will see your threads and then go "look, it's the streamfag" and it's rather easy to start a profit from that point, mainly when your stream strikes right on such a theme like nostalgia.

Also, you seem to be picking hard on Showderp when there is nothing wrong with it: it's a guy who claims the title of Pokémon Champion, then makes a Pokémon team with the first six Pokémon suggestions and fight an opposing Pokémon team in a Pokémon simulator made official by a fan-made Pokémon metagame. It's rather hard to come up with something that fits the topic "Pokémon" more than that. And even if there was something truly worth removing the general, that action alone would kill the board in 1- furious shitposting until you drown in it and then 2- board becomes way slower because many people visit /vp/ only because of Showderp.
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>>467817
>I'm just making an observation, anon
A completely misinformed one.

>How many total threads has there been, five? Six? Pointing to two threads that got literally zero posts each is not selective cherrypicking, that's an entire one third of every thread you've made
I see now, you have an agenda of some sort. This is exactly the kind of snarky "observation" retards make when they're desperately trying to prove something is bad.

Not all threads start out booming with discussion, some need time to develop, but by your idiotic logic, any threads that fail to gain interest 30% of the time should be deleted forever.

>That's not having double standards
Yes it is, or are you completely ignoring everything about Showderp now? I know you're desperately trying to suck the mods dicks, but you're not going to appear very convincing when you're ignoring such a significant portion.

>/vp/ only come to them to complain about the community being shitty
Based on what? Your own personal, highly misinformed observation? How are you able to tell it wasn't just a few people getting angry at things they don't like?

Even I could tell the OP is a faggot, but I could still see only a select few were objecting to the idea of a community live stream.

>and the community only comes to them to either defend themselves or post the name of whatever episode is airing in order to bump it. That's literally it.
and this confirms you're completely misinformed. This also explains why you haven't posted the archived links to the 200+ post threads; you don't want to disappoint the mods by showing that there was actual discussion.

>you might want to reevaluate whether you really want those threads around or not.
Nope. A retard like yourself never had a hope of convincing me to reevaluate anything.
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>>467827
>Showderp does not make any profit out of it
Neither does the live stream, so we can discard your first paragraph.

>you are growing fame as a result
1. The streamfag does not use a trip.
2. If ever he were to run ads or promote something that isn't the Pokemon anime, he'd get no sympathy and there'd be no problem with his threads being purged.

As a community driven live stream and nothing more, there is no problem.

>Also, you seem to be picking hard on Showderp when there is nothing wrong with it
I'm just highlighting the double standard. I'm perfectly fine with Showderp, but all the arguments in favor of purging the live stream threads can just as easily be applied to Showderp, a thread that's been around forever.
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>>467832
Here's the 200+ post thread.
http://fgts.jp/vp/thread/25555509/

There seriously isn't much there beyond people bitching about linkspam elsewhere and the community being shitty in general, even to the point of some guy making a new stream because OP is a fag.
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>>467840
Speaking of being selective, I like how you conveniently ignored the rest of my post and chose one remark to respond to. I suppose you never had the brains after all.

Even then, that link has still backfired on you because I see good comfy posts earlier in that thread, only for it to devolve into a shitslinging war between 2 people. Are you going to argue that it was a horde of people bitching again without any evidence?
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>>467840
>that blatant thread bumping
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>>467848
Check this out: >>>/vp/25570921
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>>467839
>Neither does the live stream, so we can discard your first paragraph.
For the time being, yeah. That's what I mentioned in my second paragraph, but it's just this easy to corrupt that.

>The streamfag does not use a trip.
Because there is no need for one. Just post it and they'll label with your channel name, or just call you the streamfag. It's already something.

>2. If ever he were to run ads or promote something that isn't the Pokemon anime, he'd get no sympathy and there'd be no problem with his threads being purged.
He doesn't need to continue on 4chan once he's famous enough anyway. Whatever hot thing grows in 4chan eventually hits reddit, tumblr and whatnot. Those aren't as likely to complain.
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>>467850
what?
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>>467852
>He doesn't need to continue on 4chan once he's famous enough anyway. Whatever hot thing grows in 4chan eventually hits reddit, tumblr and whatnot. Those aren't as likely to complain.
So what? Who cares what it develops into? If it's not making a profit now and providing anons with a positive, fun experience, then there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

How about the Pokemon Anime General? They all kiss the feet of a tripfag called Adamant in that thread because he does the subtitles for a site called Pocket Monsters, who make money from ad revenue. He knows it too; he often introduces himself in that thread just by saying "Hi." cue to anons fawning over his arrival, letting him bask in the glory of his tripcode. Why is an exception made for him but not for the OS streams?
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>>467860
>So what? Who cares what it develops into?

>uses your site to get a free first step based on the rule exploit of "it's ok if I don't advertise now :^)"
>ditches it as soon as the opportunity of money hits the board

You know the old story, "let me pretend to be a friend"? That's just about it. That kind of thing should not be encouraged.

>How about the Pokemon Anime General? They all kiss the feet of a tripfag called Adamant in that thread because he does the subtitles for a site called Pocket Monsters, who make money from ad revenue.

I'll need some proof on that part where he makes profit out of it.
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>>467860
>fansubber of an anime comes to a thread about said anime to give updates and shit in a friendly manner
This happens on /a/ and /m/ all the time too as long as the fansubber is associated with subs people like.

What are you even trying to say? Shitting on other threads and calling people retards isn't really making you look like you have much of a point.
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>>467869
I looked at the anime thread just now and the subs they link to are direct links to torrent files, so even if he has ads on his site, the thread doesn't link to anywhere where you get exposed to them.
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>>467869
http://www.pocketmonsters.net/

Turn your adblock off.

>This happens on /a/ and /m/ all the time too as long as the fansubber is associated with subs people like.
and why shouldn't it apply for a live stream people enjoy?

>Shitting on other threads
Strawman, I'm just highlighting a double standard.

>calling people retards
Just you.

>isn't really making you look like you have much of a point
Highlighting the double standard is a very strong point, and I've yet to see a strong counter argument made. I know for a fact that you certainly aren't capable.
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>>467874
So?

How does the live stream promote the streamfag any more than the torrent feed promote Adamant's site?

Both are enjoyed by their own groups on /vp/, but the mods choose to only ban one.
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>>467877
There's not a single link to that website in that thread.
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>>467874
Hey now that you mention the anime thread, keep looking down. Half of it isn't even anime discussion, it's fanart discussion and worshiping a tripfag artist trying to promote his shit.

Why do the mods allow this again?
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>>467883
>resident drawfags are bad
Now you're literally just looking for random shit to bitch about. Is this your first week on 4chan?
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>>467885
>avoiding the main argument
Whatever works, you lose.
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>>467877
The OP does not link the main website, though, and I can count in one hand the times anything from that site that weren't related to the subs were linked throughout the years. It actually links straight into the torrents, and the link with all the torrents have no ads. See for yourself: http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/

>>467883
>Half of it isn't even anime discussion, it's fanart discussion
I don't like the pic dumping either, I give you that.

>worshiping a tripfag artist trying to promote his shit.
Can you blame them? Look at the past thread, or past threads even if you got the guts. It's rampant, sheer shitposting coming from some guys in a mix of falseflagging, image dump because their autism got rustled, another who replies to his own posts to bait people (and also shit at any attempt of actually discussing the anime), also dumping pics of shit and other forms of shitposting. All that because the mods are too busy fucking female Goodras or something to drop the hammer on them once and for all. If you notice, their posts haven't even been deleted yet. I'd be glad if something nice happened in that thread too.

And I wish it was just a problem with /padg/. Remember that time someone posted nude cp and it only was taken down after some good hours? Among all the things aforementioned itt. The anime general isn't to be blamed, the next to no moderation is.
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We're just sitting in a stream watching pokemon.
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>>467899
How is any of this relevant to the main problem?

I'm not arguing for /padt/ to be taken down, I'm arguing that if something's allowed on /padt/ (and every other general), then the nostalgia livestream threads shouldn't be getting deleted by the rogue mod.
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>>467923
>m-muh rogue mod
Back to your containment /qa/ thread
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>>467084
The problem with /vp/ is shitposters such as the maker of the "corrupt /vp/ mods" thread shitposting threads he doesn't like to death, calling anyone who calls his shitposting out "underage/mentally ill/autistic/weeaboo/manchild," and then coming here to blame the board's innocent users for his shitposting ruining /vp/.

Oh, and /vp/ needs more janitors who actually give a shit. There are tons of us out here who would do it for free. How about you actually hire us that way people don't have to come here to bitch about zero moderation on /vp/.
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>>467937
Fuck off with your idiotic headcannons. Nobody cares what you have to say.
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>>467923
>How is any of this relevant to the main problem?
>Problems with /vp/: Part Two
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>>467984
I was referring to the specific problem I raised. Comprehension difficulties?
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>>467991
Your problem is hardly the main one, though, when only you and >>467902 have shown some voice against the deletions. And even if the majority was on your side, it would still be a topic within the main one, "Problems with /vp/".
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I reported >>>/vp/25589803 over an hour ago and mods haven't done anything. You can clearly see the tips of the dicks in the crop and the filename is "image.jpg" so it's clearly the usual ban-evading faggot who posts crops once a day.
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>>468341
this is why mobilefaggots should be banned

or least autofiltered "image.jpg/png"
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>>467685
>Anime general

This is not a bad thing.
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>>468443
Tell that to Kanjiklub.
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>>467902
No one gives a shit.
Also I'm sure its been said a million times over but you can't understand that advertising a stream is against the rules.
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>>467787
Speaking of which, I see there was another thread today that ALSO just got archived without a single post.
>>>/vp/25585317

Nobody uses these threads, they only get posts when someone sits there blatantly bumping them or people go there to complain about the stream link getting spammed. Whether they get deleted or not doesn't make a difference.
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>>468341
The phone poster that posts crops or just straight up porn (like that thread that had Froslass/Mismagius porn as the OP), as well as countless other pokephillia threads daily, is one guy. He's been doing this everyday for months now.
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>>468600
I don't see why the fuck they don't just block phoneposters from making threads and attaching pictures. 99% of the people who actually post image.jpgs are ban evading and for the remaining few it's not like you actually have to attach an image of a smug anime girl to contribute to a thread. Hell, allow it for 4chan pass users if you absolutely have to.

It's such a simple solution that would cut down on so much ban evasion on trafficked boards like /v/ and /vp/ while still having an extremely minor effect on legitimate users.
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>>468649
If this happens one can just use their phone as a router of sorts via the hotspot feature and post using a pc.
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>>>/vp/25594309

ORGANIZED SHITPOSTING
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>>468682
I think you're underestimating the intelligence of your average "lel i am trolling le 4chinz" faggot.
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>>468686
*overestimating, fuck
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>>468494
Doesn't matter, the point is they shouldn't be getting deleted. If all it took was for a few threads to be archived without any posts for it to be against the rules, then why stop here? Ban every thread.
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>>468722
But they aren't getting deleted, they just die without getting a single post because nobody cares about them unless the streamfags are running around shitting up other boards and threads.
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>>468730
>But they aren't getting deleted
Yes they are.

>unless the streamfags are running around shitting up other boards and threads
Where's your proof of this? Everyone involved in the stream agrees this is just one shitposter trying to falseflag.
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You-know who is stirring up shit again for no good reason.

>>>/vp/25596520
>>>/vp/25595727
>>>/vp/25595934
>>>/vp/25596086
>>>/vp/25596079
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>>467090
genwar threads get deleted when you fucks actually report it. It's on the rules explicitly and the tard always post the same.
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>>467787
>It really does feel like some private community that doesn't actually care about posting on /vp/ and 4chan in general

So almost like most generals outside of /vg/. And /vp/ too to be fair, some are not bad there.
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>>468817
VOLDEMORT?! I THOUGHT HE DIED YEARS AGO!
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