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The site is beyond the point of repair. The newfag mods don't do their job any more, they ban elements that have always been a part of chan culture and only that. They only care to clean /pol/+/int/ shitposting (which is a start, keep board culture in said board) but are perfectly OK with keeping a porn, erp or BLACKED thread up for sometimes more than half an hour.
If you check the catalog of any board other than a dead one such as >>>/i/ at this point, a good percent of 80% of threads is just shitposting and baiting which well fits an outsider's idea of chan culture or what makes for good trolling/shitposting.
Threads that actually have promise to offer OC are derailed almost instantly.
Over the course of 2 years this site has become way more less laid back and doesn't care for OC all together, they're perfectly ok with seeing the same posts and unfunny phrases used again and again.
There is a time not long ago this site's internet popularity was ranked 53rd and has dropped down all the way to 850s (It's not the newfags leaving), the site is dying because the mods here fucking suck and want the site to die as long as it's granted for the mods this site will become their own personal meme factory while It's here for a while. And Hiro has been long in hiding, there was a while where he was handing out free bitchslaps for any mod that decided to be a fucking idiot, but It's come to a point where not even he can save this site.

tl;dr Site is beyond saving, posting anime or discouraging in won't do anything at this point you fucking mouthbreathers
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>>374787
Maybe it doesn't need saving and it's just that all of us who think it needs saving need to step back, look in the mirror, and realize that maybe it's just that we don't fit in.

Maybe 4chan is supposed to be what 4chan is at any given moment.

Maybe the emergent behavior is the goal.
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Every time a post like this comes up I always wonder why I just don't leave for good after having spent years of my life here, yet every time I can never muster up the willpower to do so.
What is it about this site that prevents people with a similar mindset from leaving? I wish I had an answer myself but I could never quite put it into words. Maybe some of you guys have a better answer than I do.
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The new breed of Internet dweller is touchy and without character.
Can you believe how much adult babysitting is going on here?
The fact that /trash/ had to be created to keep manchildren busy is a sign of what kind of company you can expect to find here.
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>>374794
>What is it about this site that prevents people with a similar mindset from leaving? I wish I had an answer myself but I could never quite put it into words.
It's simple dude. No place else to go.

Also, maybe it has something to do with idealism. It does for me at least.

I usually don't try new things unless I can reason out in my head that it's the best course of action, and nothing else out there, at least in theory, has less flaws than anonymous discussion boards. Maybe you can find particular isolated communities that happen to be better using other discussion formats, but I'd just think it's doomed to fail eventually because of its inferior functionality.
So unless someone comes up with some completely new ground breaking format for internet discussion, I'll probably be using anonymous boards for the rest of my life.
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>>374793
I've actually said something similar to this a few times and people don't seem to like it.

Probably because the way I worded it was something like "4chan doesn't define who it's for" and you get all those people saying "it's for anime lovers".

This isn't about its history, or about what any of us want, it's just a fact that 4chan doesn't really _define_ what it is itself. It always relied on the community to do that, and moot basically just kept adding boards to allow anyone to fit in, so how can it be surprising if culture shifts occur outside our control?


So I think you're right, maybe we don't fit in because what 4chan was at one time was never protected officially or even declared publicly. So it became what it did, and just looking back at the past and saying "wait, somethings not right" doesn't mean shit to people who disagree with us.
We need a site that defines more clearly who the target demographic is, and sticks to its guns with only boards made for those interests and users, and mods that enforce their best interests.

But, it's probably far too late to do anything like that on 4chan now.
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>>374813
I've got an idea of a website like the one you want, Anon.

Have you tried reddit?

You can make your own board there and be the admin of your own little message board and define what you want it to be.

And if anybody agrees with you? They'll post there.

If you build it...

they will come...

If you build it they will come.

If you build it...

they will...

come...
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>>374787
I wish we could save this place, but there's just so much that has to be done, and Hiro not posting for since like the 28th has me worried

>850s
You're looking at Alexa, which is notoriously unreliable. Realistically we're in the 360s Globally
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>butthurt weeb rants about how shit 4chan is and continues to browse it anyway


Thanks we really need 50 daily threads about this.
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>>374815
>hurr 4chan was for everyone and anything always
this is what all the newfags say
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>>374819
>>374787
However, I will agree with you that traffic is decreasing. Its down by almost 27% I believe
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>>374830
>trafficestimate.com
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>>374824
>hur hur my opinion means anything at all.

This is what people with tiny penises think.
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>>374839
XD
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>>374787
>this site's internet popularity was ranked 53rd
[citation fucking needed]
I'm fairly sure 4chan has never been that high, and if it was it was only temporary (i.e the fappening), also,
>alexa
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Honestly at this point 8ch is looking better and better. The only thing it lacks is users.

If they didn't have that shitty new UI coming I'd jump ship completely

Seriously fuck these mods
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>>374787
>If you check the catalog of any board other than a dead one such as >>>/i/ at this point, a good percent of 80% of threads is just shitposting and baiting which well fits an outsider's idea of chan culture or what makes for good trolling/shitposting.
Sounds like you need to browse better boards.

Also

>4chan having less people is a bad thing
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>>375061
>having less people is good

Why aren't you on 8ch then?
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>>375060
The mods really are the biggest problem with 4chan as a whole
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>>375200
But how should we deal with the problem? Try to attach names to bad mods and demote them? Install a system so people can watch the watchmen? Just fire everyone and be more careful when selecting new mods?
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>>374815
I get that you're either shitposting or retarded so this is lost on you either way but reddit is the exact opposite of the small and focused website he described.
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>>375204
Honestly yes. Give each mod on here a name and an ID so we know who they are and what they're doing.
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>>375313
http://reddit.com/ is, sure.

http://reddit.com/r/YOURTINYMICROCOSM isn't.
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>>375204
moot did his best to stifle both cults of personality and lynch mobs by turning the mods into a giant faceless wall, and that's probably not going to change.
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>>372973
I still have hope.
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>>374787
I agree with this.
>>374794
Where else is there? I can't stand traditional forums or circlejerk communities like Reddit and all of their unfunny in-jokes, puns, rulefagging and admin worship.
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>>375534
Swaglord
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>>375204
Give mods and janitors global ID numbers and attach them to any posts they delete and bam they hand out.

This would mean that the way post and thread deletions are handled would have to change though- just hiding them rather than purging them from the archives. (Obviously illegal content could be outright purged, but it would be separate from normal deletion)
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>>374794
Have you considered that 4chan has become a Skinner box by accident? Thus many many people are addicted to 4chan.

Having an easy thread updater and thread watcher certainly doesn't help, but the whole addicted to 4chan thing does go wayy back to when the inline extension didn't exist. (Pic related)
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>>375200
>The mods really are the biggest problem with 4chan as a whole
No they aren't. The problem with fucking 4chan is its retarded users. The mods aren't required to remove fuck all, except illegal content. They aren't required to browse any board and can browse any one they desire. The only thing outside of that they do is deal with the report queue, which is most likely organized by the number of people who have reported something.

If you think the mods are the problem with the site, you are a deluded idiot who doesn't want to face the truth. If anything, the jannys are more at fault for being most of the time fucking dead and doing nothing.

If every fucking user who spent their time complaining about how the nazi sjw mods are big evil baddies who do nothing and instead spent that time reporting garbage on their homeboard and actually taking advice from /a/ and doing self-moderation, the website would be on its way to actually improving. But of course, thats never going to happen. It has to be the sjw mods fault and it has to be the jewmoot fault. No ones going to report because mods dont look at the report queue despite the fact that its known the more something gets reported, the higher the chance the mods look at it! No one is going to self-moderate because lol thats just weeabo shitposting lol.

Why do I even allow myself to come to /qa/? I damn fucking well know there is only mostly people who know nothing and just want to complain about everything, but don't want to do anything themselves
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>>375661
>No they aren't. The problem with fucking 4chan is its retarded users.
Hello mod.

>taking advice from /a/ and doing self-moderation
Consider this: there is not another board on 4chan besides /a/ where users are allowed to "self moderate" and choose what they want on their boards. Case in point: mods regularly babysit interracial porn threads on /tv/. Also consider what people regard as the "/pol/ invasion" all over 4chan, and how it started when moot decided to delete /pol/ due to them being mean to him.

When someone on 4chan makes a shitpost and the mods encourage that behavior, that is bad behavior on their part. When they continuously provoke and lash out at users, that is also bad behavior.

Every time someone says "UGH why don't you be like /a/?" they then proceed to make it apparent they don't use any part of the site besides moot's favorite playground.
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>>375861
>>Consider this: there is not another board on 4chan besides /a/ where users are allowed to "self moderate" and choose what they want on their boards.
/jp/
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>>375861
>Hello mod.
Hello reddit

You are acting like /a/ itself is allowed to self-moderate. It's not. Threads that are against the rules normally get report bombed and removed long before it can be self-moderate. But, a lot of the time, if the mod feels like it, they will first sweep the thread and then delete it. The other portion of things that get self-moderated is the very fucking thing you are complaining about. If a mod is babysitting a thread and the users don't like it, they fucking start shitposting it to hell. eg. In recent time, RWBY manga threads were technically allowed, but are now banned as the mods have given in because any thread that showed up got shitposted to hell within about 1 hour, despite the fact the mods were heavily babysitting them

/a/ isn't allowed to do what it wants nor choice its content, it only gets to do that, besides the fact its normally not something completly retarded, because its one of the only fucking boards that still actually puts up a fight, says no and doesn't back down. Unlike all the other boards who just take it up the arse and accept things

It's ironic really. You guys claim anyone who defends the mods, moot or say that the users are at fault in any way are keks, mods, jannys, sjw and shit, claim that the websites problems are the mods fault, but in the same breath you fucking suck the mod dick begging for them to fucking help you and do their job instead of trying to do anything yourself.

But everything here really is just pointless ranting. To make my point short, you want to fix your board? Do it yourfuckingself. The mods and janny have never been useful for fixing anything and that is still true to day. You can bring Hiro to fuck with shit, force the mods and jannys to do enforce the rules, do board splits, add filters, you can do everything you want, but none of that fuckng matters if the users don't give enough fucks to take matters into their own hands. History will just repeat itself
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>>375930
Nope, not reading all that.
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>>375951
Read the last line then you piece of shit
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>>375962
>history will just repeat itself
Not if we get rid of the mods it wont
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>>375963
The problem isn't the mods. The problem is that there just isn't enough staff.
There just aren't enough janitors and mods to actually keep every board completely clean. If a shitpost thread stays up for long it's not because nobody cares - it's because nobody fucking reports it and thus the team doesn't notice it. Either that or they're simply sleeping or not on the computer or busy.

4chan just lacks staff. And one reason for that is, that there's just not enough qualified users who can take that role.
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>>375966
Whenever there are volunteers requested they always mention the huge outpouring of applications. Obviously there is not a lack of people willing to take those jobs.

Now obviously not all of those are likely to be chosen. But you have to ask yourself - why are they rejected in the first place?

If there were a proper system of checks and balances in place the whole issue would be a moot point, because if a poorly performing mod were put in place, they could be easily removed from office. As far as we know, very few mods ever actually lose their position; they just get shuffled elsewhere if they fuck up too badly.
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>>375971
The problem isn't the number of applications - it's obviously the quality of those applicants.
It doesn't matter if 1.000 or 10.000 people apply. If only 10 quality applicants applied, then only these 10 can be taken.
Of course they could take in more but you know what would happen then? Janitors going on deletion-sprees because they just want to troll.

And mods can't be picked out just like that. Mods have to be part of the team for years. So getting new mods is not easy and removing old ones is just plain stupid.
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>>375975
On some of our boards quality posts are deleted
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>>375976
>And mods can't be picked out just like that. Mods have to be part of the team for years.

That in itself is much of the problem, though. The mods are an insular group of friends who share ideas separate from the rest of the site. They're disconnected from the basic goings on of the site as a whole.

If you've ever seen them talk back on /q/ or in their irc chatlogs, they have an openly hostile view of the average user.

>So getting new mods is not easy and removing old ones is just plain stupid.

How, exactly? They've proven time and time again to be poorly suited to their jobs.

Let me point you to 4chan's parent site, Something Awful. There, some boards go so far as to rotate mods from the average users on a weekly/monthly/whatever basis. These boards tend to be the best of the lot.

Yet when these same boards decide to rest on a single team of permanent mods, the board quickly becomes an insular hivemind.

So yeah, I think the absolute best thing we can do in the near future is get rid of the entire mod team and promote some janitors before working out a new way of choosing mods.

Because as it stands, they're just a social club of antagonistic fuckwits.
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>>375981
And what exactly is the difference between senior janitors and mods? There is none.

And mods can't be selected from new users because they are likely to abuse the power they hold.
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>>375986
>And what exactly is the difference between senior janitors and mods? There is none.
The difference is that it's removing the current longstanding regime from power. The senior janitors are just the most qualified to fill the positions in the interim.

>And mods can't be selected from new users because they are likely to abuse the power they hold.
Except the current mods abuse their power right now.

Of course I agree that you can't allow just anybody to have the current level of control that today's mods have, but that's why its important to put in place a system that prevents them from ever having the kind of absolute power they do right now again.

First and foremost would be breaking down the wall of silence they like to throw up between themselves and us, and stripping them of their anonymity while performing their duties. For instance, assigning a global ID to any deletions or bans they perform.

The point is, right now, mods are essentially silent leaders of the community, instead of being the functionaries who support it.
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You know guys...we're obviously dying out thanks to this black putrid cancer eating out 4chan alive, the only place i could call a home since 2008 and i still don't wrap the idea of ending like i started, like many of us started even before me... in nothing, we were nothing when we started and thanks to this bizarre place we learned alot and became something that it is unique, be what you want and nobody bitching you about it, literally a home with friends and in a weird sense a family where they accept you no matter what you are or who you are and be proud of it.
In a certain way, we have something in common...we are alone but not when you are here on 4chan.
Are we really going to let this happens? End up with nothing?
I think we should fight it to the bitter end, even knowing we are going to lose the battle, if we win...we recover our "home" and try to be happy...but of we lose...we should make the ride of our life a raid so big that will be classified godslayer class.
If we're going out...then we should take as much as we can with us to the deepest part of hell and make sure that shit never returns.
Even if IT survive, make sure to leave it a scar that will remember it for the rest of it nasty shitty and putrid existence.
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>>376015
If we don't do something, this place will fall so LOW that it will be called 4tumblr or 4chumblr.
OH GIRL you MUST come to /fem/, a board where only feminist are allowed and the patriarchy is big No No and we discuss girl things and let's not forget about /cys/ a board where all those pigs are reunited and becomes our personal punch bags, this males are forbidden to respond no MATTER WHAT CUZ EQUALITY RULES, you can't hit girls but you CAN hit boys.
Do anybody here wants THAT to happen?
to this place to become a fucking menace to the internet?
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>>376029
Or fucking worse, this becomes a christian board!
Welcome to /christ/,a board where we discuss the word of the mighty lord, if you don't donate 5 dolars per day, you are banned for sacrilege and we will rekt your infidel ass.
This shit will become a jehovah witnesses.
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>>376015
>>376029
>>376030
we're 4CHAN dammit, we did a before and after in internet history and fucking history too, 4chan, newgrounds and the others 2.
We created near all the memes we make the raids a form of art, we mastered and refined and created new forms of pranks and revenges, 4chan made hentai a thing, we created the rules of internet, we make rule 34 a thing, we were first in near everything, we can shut down websites if we decide it.
We are the shit and these fucking normies are trying to steal the fucking hardwork we did goddammit.
Fucking dammit man, this fucking cancer sucks ass.
We need to shut down for good some shit holes if we are going down.
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>>376045
I mean, how the hell did this happens, i still remember when /r9k/ was the shit, where other boards where here before that were good are fucking deleted, fucking why?.
I can't fucking believe it, since when we became a bunch of sissy faggots and like it?
Since fucking when we became the bitch of other sites? I mean the other day i saw a thread in /b/ where a fucking skank got the letter of gtfo of the house honey and she make a thread where she needed money...and she fucking got 108 dolars with later knowing that she was being kicked out because she was the worst kind of neighbor that you can even imagine, practically a chubby jersey skankasaurus bitch, how can anybody be so fucking STUPID and NAIVE in 4chan of ALL places?
Shit bro...this is plain horrible, we will need to explode like a tsar bomb if this continues, why haven't we nuked down tumblr and reddit yet?
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>>374787
>The newfag mods don't do their job any more, they ban elements that have always been a part of chan culture and only that.
This is the biggest problem with /v/ right now. The mods are fucking incompetent. Constantly deleting video game threads, nuking entire threads because one person shitposts or posts NSFW in them instead of just deleting that one person's posts. LOL threads are now always deleted near immediately because the mods can't be bothered actually going into them and bitchslapping the fucktards that post SJW bullshit in them. Eroge have always been allowed on /v/, but now mods have suddenly taken the axe to them. You can't even have fucking Rance threads anymore.

These faggots have absolutely no idea what they're doing, and Hiro isn't doing shit to fix it.
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>>375661
>>375930
But I'm always reporting posts that should be reported. I'll bet you've never even seen the message saying you're not allowed to report any more posts today.
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>>376029
>>376015
I am seriously concerned about the future of this place. Hiro being silent now is not helping matters
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>>375995
This has to be done. The old mods need to go big time. They fucking hate most 4chan users so why should they keep their power?

You can't even complain about shit on other boards because the mods will ban you for "spamming"
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>>375995
Agreed. Mods can do as they please due to how hard it is to attach a name to their actions. If people were able to see what a mod bans or deletes, they would have to be accountable.
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>>376062
have you download a 4chan pass??
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>>376067
The mods will fight tooth and nail to keep that from happening, but fuck would it help
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>>376068
No. I suffer captcha endlessly.
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>>376070
If you are suffering problems you may need update flash player. I make link on front page.
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>>376074
Please, I turned off those shitty image captchas months ago. The text ones are already shitty enough given that even when you get them right they still detect you as wrong at least half the time. The image captchas were even worse, I could only get them to actually work one in three times at best.
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>>376069
What about the pony infection in 2010? Literally there was so much pony that it has required the creation of /mlp/ to seal it.
What about making a massive new threads tsunami of things that are big no to the mods, even if it means to get banned, day and night without stop, it will be so much that the mods will lose their power.
Literally whatever you go in the thread it will be the thread that you though got deleted but it multiplied.
Or dox the mods.
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>>376076
You do not on the pass page see free download?
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>>376079
Try again in English, dear ESL anon.
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Captchas are fucking shit, it suck the happiness out of your body.
>pic related
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>>376081
Please understand.
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>>376077
When you get off topic threads on /v/ and porn threads on /tv/ that stay up for HOURS, something is seriously wrong
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>>376069
Well as long as the mods actually do their obs the wouldn't have much to fear. I'm usually all for anonymity, but it's clear it won't work in this case.
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>>376124
Except they don't. They abuse their power, they outright ban people who complain about the problems about a board, like with /aco/, and they delete threads they don't like like with /v/. Don't forget the interracial porn threads that pop up on /tv/ that niggermod has no problem letting stay up
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>>376148
Complaining about /aco/ isn't posting porn.
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>>375951
Great job proving his point.

He's actually pretty spot-on, you whiny faggots come in here and make /q/post after /q/post about how this board will fix the site or the mods doing this will fix the site or filtering this meme you don't like will fix the site, but it won't do shit.

Moderation won't really stop bikeshedding fucktards from turning your board into a banal shitposting paradise, or stop the facebook tards from rolling in with their shit bait threads, or keep plebs from getting in and enabling other plebs by participating in their shitposting, or do anything against the overall mindset of the userbase that 4chan is their personal garbage dump and meme repository.

Ultimately, it requires cooperation from both the staff and community to really "fix" the site. But you retards wouldn't have that, because that would require you to stop shitposting altogether, rather than just stop shitposting you don't like.
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>>374787
Then why are you still here?

t. Someone whose home board isn't full of off topic trash and enjoys posting there
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>>376174
>pls stop being mean to me... I mean the mods!
>dey dindu nuttin
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>>376174
And the guy who said he wasn't reading all that was spot on too.

Nobody fucking cares.

Complainers are in the minority. 4chan isn't Brazil (the movie) where everybody in it has to behave a certain way or they'll be killed by the other people who all also hate the system. 4chan's a website you can just stop posting on.

Wanting to enforce rules and change the community is imposing your will on other people. The emergent behavior is the behavior.

Quit quining and go find a better website. Or make one.
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>>376185
Who are you quoting?

>>376191
You seem to care since you're in this thread, on a board that has been forcibly converted into a super secret unlisted /q/ by blathering retards trying to get things they don't like banned from the site thinking it will "fix" it.

I'm staying right here.
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>>376224
Actually I'm here because this is worksafe /b/. :^)
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>>376174
See >>375411

This is more or less what we want
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>>376015
>>376029
>>376030
>>376045
>>376055
Seriously, just shut the fuck up, you piece of shit. Putting aside the fact your a obvious newfag, I'll answer your question seriously.

>what the hell happened
Fucking you happen. Stupid, moronic retards like you happened
>haha we r 4chan we r legon we can do anything we control r internet histoy w rthe cretor of memes
Stupid idiots like you spouting this stupid mountain of lies is what caused the sites downfall. We fucking aren't that. 4chan is nothing more than a anonymous image board for the discussion of nerdym geeky, niche hobbys. It is not some activist super power hitler of free speech and chaos

>>376062
I actually very rarely see that. I normally go on a report spree spam and instead get stuck with a report cooldown that last a few hours and then just repeat
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>>376191
>Wanting to enforce rules and change the community is imposing your will on other people
I don't see how wanting the community to stop being retarded and to fucking follow some arbitrary community standard and fixing their problems themselves is enforcing your will on the community

Also, nobody caring fucking caring is the problem. You guys sure fucking love to complain about the problems, but you don't seem to care enough to do anything about them yourselves. If you guys care enough to complain, but not to try and fix things yourself, you don't fucking deserve the right to complain
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>>376485
>I don't see how wanting the community to stop being retarded and to fucking follow some arbitrary community standard and fixing their problems themselves is enforcing your will on the community

If the world behaves like X, and you want the world to behave like Y, and you make an effort to cause the world to behave like Y, then you are imposing.

Perhaps there's nothing wrong with taking your place in the Yin and Yang of positive and negative furies, but it makes you look like a buttmad faggot.
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Simple: >>376552
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>>376554
>but it makes you look like a buttmad faggot.
This entire site is basically run by buttmad faggots and driven by their buttmad faggy arguments, so why care?
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>>375930
I don't think the mods banned a single person for shitting up the RWBY threads. It was behavior that would have resulted in dozens of bans if it had been any "normal" thread.
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>>376736
Well done. You've resisted the ire of a random faceless stranger on the internet. You want a cookie?
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>>376742
You clearly weren't in them then. The mods banned almost literally everyone shitting up the thread trying to throw them off and those telling /co/umblr to go back to /co/. Overtime, they started banned people talking about its retard cartoon and then anons talking about the manga because they started to realize it was fucking pointless. They eventually gave up trying to force the shitty threads and just locked them on sight

The behavior in the threads was acceptable as the mods were trying to force off-topic garbage. If it wasn't for that behavior, we'd be having the shitty threads still and /co/umblrtards would be on their way posting shit all through /a/ as well
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>>376751
So what, did you get banned for it?

>then anons talking about the manga
And when did this happen?

>The behavior in the threads was acceptable as the mods were trying to force off-topic garbage.
God forbid someone talk about a manga in /a/. There were entire threads that got made, collected five posts, slowly waltzed towards page 10 before someone bumped it onto the front page and reignited the /a/ shitposting festival.
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>>376753
Of course I got banned for posting in the stupid thing and telling /co/ to take /co/ shit back to /co/

Anon this has already been done to hell. RWBY isn't /a/ related, simple as that. It may have a official manga, but every single one of its roots belong in the west, not /a/ related. Its also not related because it will bring its stupid fucking retarded fanbase from /co/ to /a/. A fanbase, that already has a fucking eternal general on /co/ and is already fucking incredibly hated on /a/. All discussion about the manga will be minimal and it will all end up being about the cartoon, which, is not /a/ related. Its less about it not being related and more that it will only bring shit to the board
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>>376756
>RWBY isn't /a/ related, simple as that.
In general, discussion of the franchise isn't /a/. That much is true.

>It may have a official manga
And the manga is /a/-related. Full stop. If the moderators listen to the people claiming it isn't they're simply shitposters abusing their power to delete rule-abiding threads.

>A fanbase, that already has a fucking eternal general on /co/ and is already fucking incredibly hated on /a/.
Being hated by /a/ is not, in fact, against the rules! On-topic threads don't go away just because /a/ hates them (unless the mods are being sycophantic bootlickers, which they apparently are).
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>>376757
Wow! Good job dodging the points I made!

Its called quality control you retard. I know that might be hard for someone like you, who probably comes from a board were twitter and reddit screencaps are considered a quality post, to understand. RWBY is only loosely related by a single incredibly thin string out of an entire bundle of ropes and even then, its still debatable if it is. It serves no purpose being there, /a/nons don't want it there, its a waste of a thread slot, even moreso when it has an entire eternal general on another board. It also encourages retards to post on /a/. Its banned for the same reason naruto was banned
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>>376766
>Its called quality control you retard.
What this really is, is code for forcing the mods to delete on-topic shit that you don't like with the sheer power of shitposting.
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>>376768
Yes anon, of course, thats exactly it! There is nothing wrong with threads that start off with a reddit, twitter, tumblr or facebook screencap! There is nothing wrong with threads that start with a clickbait article and blogs! There is nothing wrong with filename threads, YLYL threads, and blatant advertising threads. There is nothing wrong with threads with a OP of "THE BIG NAZI SJW ARE DOING x FIGHT THEM'!

Truly anon, you have enlighten me on my wrong doings. Even these threads, albeit how only loosely related they are, are board related and as such should be allowed! Truly, a shocking! Truth!
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>>376775
>There is nothing wrong with threads that start off with a reddit, twitter, tumblr or facebook screencap!
Do you spam those threads to death for 500 posts if the post is on topic? No, you call OP a faggot and move on.

>There is nothing wrong with filename threads, YLYL threads
No worse than half the generals up right now.

>blatant advertising threads.
These are against the rules.

>Even these threads, albeit how only loosely related they are,
It's almost like Japanese manga serialized in Japan by a Japanese manga magazine can be discussed in the Anime & Manga board. You can act as surprised as you want about it but the truth of it is plain on its face.

Unless, of course, the job of the moderators is not to keep the board on-topic, but delete everything spammers don't like, in which case they're doing a splendid job.
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>>376778
I would like to note that I misread what you said:
>reddit, twitter, tumblr or facebook screencap!

I thought you meant a filename. Threads that are started for the sole purpose of starting shit (or as /v/ has an actual rule for, starting a "flame war") can be rule sixed. There is no rule banning any given anime or manga from /a/ (nor any rule under which such a ban can be justified.)
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>>376778
Yes anon, of course I would! Why would I not force a thread thats ensured to probably stay up for hours and not get touched by the mods, despite it being low quality posting to hell and back and just plain shitposting, to bump limit quickly? This isn't 2005 or shit anymore, you can't just call OP a faggot anymore and move on. Unless you force it off constantly until the mods intervene and start removing it as well, it will never disappear and will constantly be remade

Wow! A board has cancer up on it thats globally agreed is cancer, but because its up there, we may as well allow other cancer as well!

No, it doesn't belong on /a/. It might be 'related' by a incredibly thin string, but thats the only thing related. Everything else about it is highly off-topic posting and its impossible to keep the threads on the on-topic garbage. The vast majority of /a/ doesn't like it or its userbase. There is no point of the threads being on /a/, when /a/nons aren't the ones going to be using it, it will be /co/umblr, which, already has their own threads
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>>376802
>It might be 'related' by a incredibly thin string, but thats the only thing related
So the manga is, in fact related, even if the rest of the franchise is not. Cool.

>its impossible to keep the threads on the on-topic garbage.
It's actually really easy! If the mods can fight off hundreds of anons attempting to hold Shitposting Festival 2015 (24-hour edition) in a RWBY thread they can surely remove posts from a few lost fans.

>The vast majority of /a/ doesn't like it or its userbase.
Irrelevant to the enforcement of the rules.

>when /a/nons aren't the ones going to be using it
Assuming that literally nobody in /a/ likes RWBY (and people in /a/ do in fact stream anime and read Mangafox, so you can hardly pretend it's a fortress of good taste) it's still not against the rules.
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>>376756
Holy shit, this delusion.

It absolutely IS /a/ related. /a/ just doesn't want it. It's the same as /v/ shitposting in weeb game threads.
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>>376802
I can say the same about Touhou or Neptunia

>No, it doesn't belong on /v/. It might be 'related' by a incredibly thin string, but thats the only thing related. Everything else about it is highly off-topic posting and its impossible to keep the threads on the on-topic garbage. The vast majority of /v/ doesn't like it or its userbase. There is no point of the threads being on /v/, when /v/ aren't the ones going to be using it, it will be /a/utists, which, already has their own threads
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>>376868
Both Touhou and Neptunia are fucking video games. They aren't 'loosely related', they are 100% board related, as they are both video games and started as video games. Everything that later branched off them that isn't video games, last I checked, isn't allowed to be posted on /v/
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>>376874

The RWBY manga is fucking manga. It isn't 'loosely related', it is 100% board related, as it is manga and started as manga. Everything that later branched off them that isn't manga, last I checked, isn't allowed to be posted on /a/
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>>376874
You weebs always try to weasel out a reason why you're allowed to break the rules, while blaming everyone else for doing the same.

>/a/ posts porn on a blue board
"Oh its okay because its '/a/ related'"
>meanwhile eroge are explicitly banned from /v/

>/a/ shitposts threads they don't like
"It's called 'self-moderating'"
>meanwhile they whine about being oppressed on other boards because "4chan is a weeb site," "westkucks," and "normies"

>/a/ fills their board with shit threads like "x is cute! CUTE!"
>"we just make the OPS of our threads shitposts to keep away normies"

>/a/ is babied by mods who enforce their whims
"Why don't other boards do as good of a job of self-policing as us?
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>>376182
I still want answer to this, OP.
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>>376756
>every single one of its roots belong in the west,
I've seen multiple threads on /a/ about OTHER western IPs that have manga or anime, and those threads are generally quite peaceful. No one says anything against them, even though the source material for those series would normally go in /co/ or /v/.


There's no legitimate reason to ban RWBY threads that discuss the manga, and "people don't like it" isn't one.
If you want to call it "quality control", that's a funny argument coming from /a/, especially when it's mostly /a/nons who made more RWBY threads the day the manga released—not only could they not let the thread die, they kept it alive, brought it way past its bump limit, and then made more threads to do it again.
That's some shitty self-moderating.
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>>376766
Man, remember when people were talking about 4chan as a free speech platform?

Sure GOES OUT THE WINDOW when you don't like the speech, huh?

Loli is banned.
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>>376885
This post is too accurate.
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>>376766
>Its called quality control you retard.

No it's called shitposting. Shitposting so hard the mods caved in just to get some peace, hence this kind of threads.
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>>376766
>Its called quality control you retard.

>>376885
>/a/ shitposts threads they don't like
>"It's called 'self-moderating'"

holy shit
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>>377471
Not on /a/, so long as there's no nudity. Hell the mods and jannies actually stepped in a loli thread and deleted post made by anti-loli fags
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>>377471
4chan was never a free speech platform, I wish people would stop spouting this meme. Moot just personally believed in it himself
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>>377681
I don't give a shit if it's a free speech platform or not, I just want hipstercrites to shut the fuck up.

If you want free speech, don't tell people they can't say stuff.

If you want people to stop saying things, don't talk about wanting free speech.
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>>377697
No one but /b/ and fucking /pol/ care about free speech on the site. People just want to be able to discuss and go autistic about their hobbys on their respective boards
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>>377704
>hobbys

Go back to reddit. You're a reddit poster. Only reddit posters make typos.
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>>377705
Grammar nazis need to come back into existence
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>>375637
This. Also 4chan generally moves a lot faster than your average message board, so it's more fulfilling in the short term.
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>>375971
My thought is that what new janitors we get, most don't ever last very long. I imagine it's a stressful job, because not only are you having to constantly browse and moderate the same shitposts and bait threads over and over, but IIRC janitors also have to defend themselves to the mod team after the fact. I obviously don't have any statistics to back this up, but it wouldn't surprise me if the lack of janitors stems from turnover being high, coupled with the site taking on new ones infrequently.
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>>378536
That's only because there's more users.

The red vs blue forums used to move at light speed at the height of their popularity.
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>>378539
Yeah they need to seriously increase the amount of janitors every month. Again like you said most probably leave because they can't the mods. Hell the moot IRC logs that got leaked were from a pissed off janitor.
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This thread is really funny
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>>375368
can't subreddits disable upvotes and downvotes with CSS? i forget

i honestly think sideways infinity chan has the right model, all of the benefits of reddit (subreddits) with none of the circlejerk or brigading
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>>374793
>Maybe the emergent behavior is the goal.
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>>378878
While you can't fully disable upvotes and downvotes because people can just disable the CSS, you can make it so your subreddit defaults the sorting of comments by Oldest first or by Newest first.
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