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>LATEST POLL RESULTS
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 44% (+1)
Leave: 49% (+1)
(ICM, online / 10 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 39% (-3)
Leave: 46% (+3)
(YouGov, online / 12 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 40% (-1)
Leave: 47% (+4)
(via TNS, online)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 45% (+3)
Leave: 50% (+5)
(ICM, phone / 10 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 47%
Leave: 53%
(ICM, both online and phone / 10 - 13 June)
>PETER HITCHENS
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3637246/PETER-HITCHENS-British-people-risen-unleash-chaos.html
>DANIEL HANNON
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/six-best-reasons-vote-leave/
>JACOB REES-MOGG
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3614626/JACOB-REES-MOGG-Yes-victory-bloody-final.html
>FIRST BRITAIN, THEN THE WORLD
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/06/farage-brexit-domino-disintegration/
>THREAD THEMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zCGQV_aJME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBz6y6ZrmD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KA5iyUUdw
>BREXIT: THE MOVIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
>BORIS ITV DEBATE - 9 JUNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcAywz3SaOo
>NIGE ON QT - 9 JUNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMoLLHHaWEY
>NIGE V NEIL - 10 JUNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaSQT7QnbWI
>ARE NIGE RETROSPECTIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0
>POLLTRACKERS/ODDSCHECKER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum
https://twitter.com/britainelects
https://yougov.co.uk/turnout-o-meter/
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result
>CAMPAIGN ORGANISATIONS
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/organise
http://leave.eu/
http://grassrootsout.co.uk/join-us
http://www.ukip.org/volunteer
http://conservativesforbritain.org/sign-up/
http://www.labourleave.org/
FIRST FOR NIGEL
If Britain leaves, which countries will likely be next to follow? If they are allowed to that is.
>>77239909
First for based Mogg
http://www.strawpoll.me/10483250
MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT LAD'S DINNER
2nd for Owen Jones
>>77240037
My bet is on Netherlands then Denmark
>>77240037
Netherlands, France, Ireland, Greece, Chezia
POLLS:
14 June
Remain: 40% (-1)
LEAVE: 47% (+4)
(TNS, online)
13 June
Remain: 45%
LEAVE: 50%
(ICM, phone)
13 June
Remain: 39%
LEAVE: 46%
(YouGov, online)
13 June
Remain: 44%
LEAVE: 49%
(ICM, online)
12 June
Remain: 48%
LEAVE: 49%
(ORB, phone)
10 June
Remain: 42%
LEAVE: 43%
(YouGov, online)
10 June
REMAIN: 44%
Leave: 42%
(Opinium, online)
9 June
Remain: 45%
LEAVE: 55%
(ORB, online)
3rd for Boris
>>77240037
Probably the Netherlands, Geert Wilders is tearing shit up over there or so I've heard.
>>77240058
>not playing cat girl rpgs
You degenerate scum.
Voted stay and shitpost instead. Amusing the only time I'll be voting in the next couple weeks.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/14/uk-can-refuse-benefits-to-unemployed-eu-migrants-judges-rule
>“But there are no guarantees that this will last for ever, and future judgments may go against the UK. Conversely, a vote for Brexit on 23 June is likely to create its own legal quagmire, as the subsequent negotiations will have to resolve the free movement rights of EU citizens currently living in the UK and UK citizens currently living in other EU countries in a fair and consistent way,”
>“This is a victory for the UK and for common sense. It vindicates the prime minister’s stance, which has always been that free movement means freedom to work, not to claim benefits.
>“The commission may have attempted to dictate to Britain, but it has been put in its place by the EU’s own institutions.”
>Liberal Democrat MEP Catherine Bearder added: “This ruling is a victory for Britain, confirming we have a fair immigration system as well as having full access to the EU single market.
>>77240037
there was a Czech Republic poll that got 73% Czexit result
A REMINDER FOR THE 24TH:
Counts will get under way when polls close at 22:00 GMT Thursday, 23 June at 382 local centres around the UK. These local results will be declared as the counts are completed before being collated at 12 regional centres, which will also declare the totals for each side. There will be a rolling total so the time at which one side reaches the point of being mathematically unbeatable depends on how quickly the vote are counted and how close the results are running. It is a safe bet that from 4am onwards there should be pretty clear picture of which way the vote is going. A chief counting officer will announce the overall result at Manchester Town Hall.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/4o0vph/just_received_this_poster_from_britain_stronger/d48nxa4
I am now a #RemainTrain
>>77239909
>>77239909
The Slow Cuckening of this county active ever since New Labour is being undone lads
We're doing it
Reminder that Owen Jones is a naughty boy
>keira knightley backing leave
Know who I'm having a quick wank to before bed tonight lads
>Brexit happens
>Netherlands demand referendum
>Czechs demand referendum
>Danes demand referendum
>mfw
Britain Elects @britainelects 1h
Wasn't aware of an embargo re: this poll, my apologies. I'm just a humble Twitter account!
What did they mean by this chaps?
>>77240242
>Amusing the only time I'll be voting in the next couple weeks.
>>77240251
>confirming we have a fair immigration system as well as having full access to the EU single market.
this delusion
Also
>thinking facts matter now
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/13/brexit-supporters-leave-vote-right?CMP=share_btn_tw
Britain, if you leave, Denmark will be left in an EU without Britain. Being in the EU will feel ten times as cucked without you.
>mfw my parents were remain
>go out to dinner with them and bring it up casually, say a few things about it
>apparently redpilled my mum enough to switch to leave, and is convincing my dad to as well
>>77240365
That poll they tweeted out shouldn't have been tweeted out yet until a certain time. Which that twitter account forgot about.
>>77240365
This wasn't supposed to be released until 18:00.
I hope you brits vote leave. Step back onto the world stage, beautiful bongs.
WHERES YOUR PASSPORTS BOYS
>>77240390
I fucked up. People talking to me fucking with my head.
Meant to say, "Amusingly, this will be the only time I'll be voting to stay in the next couple weeks."
>>77240257
Thing is . . .those poor countries need the money, they are unlikely to leave in the near future.
>>77240412
Don't worry famalam, I'm sure Merkel will make you surrender your Euro opt-out next year
>>77240412
DEXIT
Join us, free trade for all, without Juncker and Merkel's bullying
>>77240453
>>77240459
Haha top kek lads, Remain BTFO again.
>>77240365
>>77240459
>>77240453
Bet the cheeky prick bet against the £ or bought a lot of euros and dollars
Release poll then makes some easy money off the market panic
>>77240461
Gave mine to a poor young Syrian boy aged only 32.
>>77239909
>No Nord Iron in pic
G-guys, please take us too!
>game developer
>setting up the logo videos which play when starting up
>look for placeholders
>the only video on my PC that seems to work is the one of Boris force pushing the camera man
>it now plays every time I start the game
We can't lose
>>77240652
Traitor.
WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING
>>77240360
I want Britain to save Europe! Rise up Britons and claim your destiny!
KENNETH
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77240150
It's actually happening.
Please keep this momentum up lads.
>>77240515
Czech republic is based beyond relief but they are a slave to the shekels.
I have a feeling they will pull through though
>>77239909
Godspeed, UK.
I never much liked you, you assholes, but if you vote BREXIT, you'll have my respect.
Fuck EU! Even if it kills us.
>>77240668
You're onboard lad - don't worry.
>>77240647
This is insider trading, right?
>>77240669
This one? That's a nice bug
>>77240412
Join us in a new league of European countries built around promoting national sovereignty, liberty and mutually beneficial economic cooperation.
>>77240772
>relief
FUG
>>77240774
>I never much liked you, you assholes
Fucking why? What have the Greeks got against us except for "muh Cyprus"?
This is why we left you UK
To EU loyalist scum;
A Strong Britain is a Strong Allie, in charge of its own destiny. Don't bend the knee BritBongBros
This shits gonna be like a club or guild on an MMO. We will leave and we will steal the best countries in some new alliance. The old club will be dead and disband in a few years.
Is it true that we won't even get to leave the EU for 2 years even if we vote OUT? They said that on QT this week.
>>77240242
>>77240510
Fortunately remain has lost and I must leave for Rocket League to campaign.
lads...
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/4o0itp/this_brexit_leaflet_seems_misleading_to_me/d48oo35
>KermitHoward 82 points 2 hours ago
>I have so much spite built up towards Leavers I kinda hope we're crippled economically. And when we come crawling back? Please veto us.
>>77240515
The Czechs just don't seem to give a shit, they hate the EU that much
>>77240880
I was having a laugh, but yes it would be
>>77240959
Well that changed my mind
I am now on the #tremaintrain
>>77240880
Never seen this before . .saved.
You are doing the right thing. If we ever join the EU you guys will be spared the 70 million free-loading dirty-smelling turks.
Make Britain great again
>Remainers say that we can't have access to the common market if we leave because the EU will have a massive stick up their arse
>They're already mad that we're having a referendum and it's gotten this far
If we leave, we are so fucked to be made of an example of.
>>77240926
2 years of Article 50, it's there so noone spooks the market
The market is a timid thing
>>77240923
>Reforming the League of Nations
>>77240959
what a cuck.....
>>77239909
I hope you crash this union.
>>77241088
If we remain* fuck.
>>77240926
Up to 2 years
>>77241088
People will see the tyranny of the EU first hand and will follow us into the day.
>>77240037
Denmark, it's not in the Eurozone.
I can't see any Euro countries leaving before the Euro is abandoned.
>>77240918
>allie
FOR NIGE
DEUS VULT
>>77240303
>A chief counting officer will announce the overall result at Manchester Town Hall.
I wonder if that's where all the bigwigs like Cameron are going to be then
>tfw I could go down and see Dave's hopes get crushed in person
>>77240360
>tfw we offer anyone else leaving the EU a proper common market
>tfw stealth EU 2.0 led by britain
>>77240412
come with us Danebro
YES FATHER YES
>>77239909
Why are they running off with Italy and her sweet ass?
lads, I know this isn't Brexit related, but it's important information
The Russians have hacked the Democrats and were able to read everything they wrote for the last year. Russia is going to make sure Trump gets elected. The Special Relationship is going to be great again.
>>77240959
>Hoping your nation suffers just to spite some people you don't agree with.
Borderline treasonous to put it bluntly lads.
>>77240461
Don't have one because I never leave my home town.
>>77241088
Just imagine the sweet deal Trump includes you guys in with Russia. EU will cry while NATO reforms or dies
Reminder at how shit scared remain are
>>77240959
>What is it about the history of the UK that makes you think it cannot succeed economically outside of the EU?
-1 point
They are wankers aren't they
>>77241090
>tfw EU will fall apart before we get chance to formally leave
>>77241175
2 fuckin years?
I bet they will jew you in some way during this period if Brexit wins.
>>77240880
not insider trading as such-- it's probably a different law that the polsters have to adhere to.
>>77241211
good on you lad
>>77240947
oh fuck I'mma steal that colour scheme right now
>>77240959
>Unfortunately there's a huge spike in nationalism recently - the US are debating electing Trump (who is really good at appealing to nationalists, the "Make America great again" slogan really is a great slogan to pull in nationalists - unfortunately it also reminds me of certain countries' mentalities before World War 2), Scotland was debating leaving the UK, the UK is debating leaving the EU (If the UK leaves the EU, I hope Scotland leaves the UK and joins the EU - they'll be better off), and even France's nationalist parties are getting a huge increase in popularity.
>Unfortunately there's a huge spike in nationalism
YOU'RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdCLSev3avU
Why do i feel like i've seen this guy before
>>77241211
Come on lad are you not British? Give that box the X it deserves not a little girlish cross.
It's beautiful
>>77241365
SITTING
>>77241271
i feel warm inside.
>>77241271
>Anglo-Russo-American alliance.
Fuck yes, this is my dream alliance.
>>77241271
source, or just unfounded ridiculous statements?
please keep that to another thread either way man
Why are Remainians so wet?
>ITS OVER FOR THE LEAVE CAMPAIGN
@DavidDavisMP 34m34 minutes ago
Mr Juncker will be visiting Britain next week - remember that this is the man who said that British “deserters” would face “consequences”.
>>77239909
In the general for next time you should include the Betfair odds page
betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.118739911
Done some more canvassing lads. 7/10 definitely leave. 2/10 probably leave. 1 of the 10 was unsure.
I love her so much.
>>77240926
well shit, our war of independence took longer than two years.
try dumping refugees in to the harbor. the sooner its escalated, the sooner it will end
I get so bored arguing with remainers. What can i say ?
>>77241329
> Eu fucks us over hard for two years out of spitr. Brits get pissed and say fuck you because thats who we are. EU collapses because they fucked themselves over.
XRASHING THIS EU WITH XO SURVIVORS
LADS
There was an anon who has written 60 posts on the Guardian today
make sure you are not just circle jerking in /pol/
God's speed
>>77241467
LITTLE DAMP RAGS
>>77241467
Juncker will either fuck it up for Remain, giving Leave a huge lead
Or he will offer something that we won't see coming
>>77241542
That's not a bad idea, I'm sure Merkel would explode if she saw us doing that.
>>77241462
Their damp rags can't soak up any more.
>>77241259
I would vote to leave, and from what i've gathered there is a lot of anti-EU people.
Even on places such as Facebook.
>>77241565
jesus
not reading all that lad
>>77241580
BIG
BRITISH
SOVEREIGNTY
First of all, I'm not actually Beglian. I'm Eastern European and I'm sitting here, wondering, what exactly do brits think Brexit is going to achieve?
Let's not beat around around the bush, you are voting to keep us out of your country right now. You're sacrificing the economic benefits of the EU, among some others, to keep us out. But...how the hell is that going to actually work?
We had no troubles coming into Britain back when restrictions were in order. All you had to do was find a relative who lived there and get set up to begin with. If you're going to migrate to the west it's clearly out of a wish to work hard, so we were fine with that. And that was BEFORE there were already hundreds of thousands of people from our communities established there. Now there's thousads of people (I know a dozen) who actually help you immigrate over there. They will continue to after Brexit, most of them have citizenship.
I've heard lots of arguments that the EU increased migration and maybe it did, but what actually increased migration was Britain standing sorta strong during the economic crisis. We come from largely sunny countries, with great weather, nature, food and women. When we had a choice, we migrated to Spain. We migrated to Italy. Now that they're all ded we choose Britain because we have to. And even if the EU enabled us to do that at the start, we won't suddenly stop.
Block the borders, get a point system and such you say.
Well, we have OK education and the majority of people get foreign education before going to work abroad. Or we migrate over to get your education. Plus we largely speak more than two languages - something no brit does. We're also willing to bust our ass to get the qualifications we need and we will have people who live there and know the point system perfectly to advise us.
So tell me, what exactly are you going to achieve with this and who lied to you that Brexit will fix your problem of too many Eastern European immigrants?
>>77241542
DELET THIS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77241666
GET HIM BOYS
>>77240421
You're doing the lords work faggit
>>77241467
Throw him in The Tower of London, put his head on a spike outside Traitors Gate.
>>77241443
It's legit.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-national-committee-breached-russian-hackers-n592061
Will we see Nige choke Juncker to death with the passport?
>>77241363
>If the UK leaves the EU, I hope Scotland leaves the UK and joins the EU - they'll be better off
Do these people have no understanding economics at all?
>>77239909
Is this the result of the Orlando attack?
>>77241666
666
Confirmed Satan.
FUCK OFF LUCIFER.
I CAST YE BACK INTO THE ABYSS FOUL DEMON.
CHARLATAN, FATHER OF LIES, DEMON OF ALL THAT IS WRONG IN THE WORLD.
I CAST YE DOWN AND REJECT YE.
>>77241713
>tfw getting my autismbux this month so the state has less to give to rapefugees
im doing my part
>>77241776
No, no they do not.
>>77241633
I'd give her the ol' in and out, if you know what I mean
>Is it happening?
>>77241565
You'd be better off convincing those on the fence than those deeply set on their opinion.
It's just not worth the time, some people choose to see their own version of the truth.
>>77240914
Cyprus is the main reason, yeah. We Greeks tend to keep a grudge for a very long time.
The stolen antiquities is another reason.
The English Law in which the MoU's are signed under, is also a reason.
And generally because british are backstabbing cunts who pretend to be your friends only when they want to bleed you dry.
Just like back then with our war of independence, ha, some help that was... Loaning random people when we had no country and then shoving up our asses a foreign king to make we pay those loans back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0NY-fo6O7w
RAGE FUEL, GETS REALLY BAD TOWARDS THE END
>>77240037
Denmark, Holland and the Visegrad 4
>>77239909
>http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/organise
>http://leave.eu/
>http://grassrootsout.co.uk/join-us
>http://www.ukip.org/volunteer
>http://conservativesforbritain.org/sign-up/
>http://www.labourleave.org/
You should include the left-wing exit campaigns, the TUSC supports leaving.
>>77241666
Nice try shillfag.
I am old enough to remember when we first joined the EEC . . . .I have seen it mutate into the EU and I have seen things take a turn for the worse.
Good luck in trying to convert the undecided but my mind is made up and so has most of the older folk.
>>77241666
>Belgian IP
>Claims to be slav
>Satanic trips
Get out
>>77241878
lel
>belgian flag
>eastern european
>666
I realize how this must look
>>77241735
I don't actually give a fuck, I used to study in the UK and don't want to live there, I have an ok life and I'm not gonna be that impacted by brexit, I'm just curious where the connection between brexit and fixing the problem with too many eastern europeans is.
It just doesn't seem to make sense to me, because I can't see how one leads to the other.
>>77241666
Satan please.
Leaving the EU means that we have no chance of being further absorbed into the neo-Marxist mess of a superstate that they are trying to build out of Europe. You (being from a country that has probably experienced it) may be happy to have aspects of your life dictated by the unelected EU politburo but I'm not. Any immigration bonuses are just the cherry on the cake and I doubt that there will be any significant economic damage in the long term.
>>77241666
NICE TRY SATAN. GLORY TO ALBION!
Gotta do well when I represent are Nige
>>77241580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
>>77241949
another person to bring out the bookies odds.
The bookies reflect only on what people have been putting money on, not actual opinion. Also, their odds change slowly and they have to look out for their own best interests -- the odds necessarily don't tell the whole story.
>>77240765
why is it always up to us to do this?
not that i really mind
>>77242068
MY HERO
>>77242001
Don't really have the space in the OP, but I'll post them soon after.
>>77241955
>backing out of an argument
That's not how we roll. We destroy their """arguments""" with our's and let those on the fence watch the carnage and get a hard-on for us.
>>77241612
He'll fuck things up for the EU either way.
He's very likely to say or do something that makes remain look bad, or he bribes the UK with a deal we can't refuse and that'll alienate the rest of the EU.
>>77242143
Newton, Darwin, Shakepeare
You're obviously the brain of Europe.
What's the best bookies to bet at for Brexit for mad £££?
>>77240359
She backed remain lad. I'm sorry.
>>77241666
>we're voting on immigration
I'm voting on democracy and sovereignty. Immigration is an issue but I am a one iossue BREXIT voter everything else could be taken away and I'd still vote leave so we could democratically protect our sovereignty from the anti-democrat Brussels dictatorship.
>>77240412
I vote leave for my country, but somewhere, in the bottom of my heart, I know I'm voting so you can too one day
>>77242025
Wait, what are you talking about? I'm talking about Eastern Europeans and the link to Brexit....
>>77242053
I'm not talking about that, I perfectly agree with that argument (though it still seems stupid to me that you'd leave instead of forcing a new treaty, considering the only reason Germany are resisting is because the Polish and their friends and Italy are too small and with the UK it would be inevitable).
But I've read a lot of the people voting "leave" do it just because of eastern european immigrants.
I don't get that.
>>77241666
You appear to have a loathing for the very concept of the existence of nation states - perhaps that's because you come from Belgium, which is pretty much a non-country.
>>77241467
>Literally the least popular politician in the EU is going to come here and tell us what to do
I don't even
>>77241636
Anti Eu sentiment is on the rise everywhere. problem with the EU is they're doubling down like retards. Hopefully when other countries see us surviving out they'll join us as well and leave the germans propping up the moochers desu
>>77241764
apologies, thanks for source.
>>77241666
>First of all, I'm not actually Beglian
Your opinion is worth less than a fellow Englishman's, so either quick green text, or opinion discarded.
Black Pigeon made a Brexit video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0aeXInxZqk
>>77242043
>fixing the problem with too many eastern europeans
Do you honestly think that Eastern Euros are the biggest problem with EU membership?
Apart from our ability to control the mass immigration, they honestly do not come on the Radar.
>>77240150
This is some funny shit.
They're now stepping things up a gear. 30bn gone from the FTSE today, pound losing vale rapidly against the dollar, this is a political response as much as it is an economic judgment. Big investors, banks, the financial capitalist investor class if you wanna use the Marxist jargon, are going to have to make a move.
Expect to see further losses this week and lots of breathless and urgent punditry talking about "the threat to homeowners" and "Lots of people have just lost their stock-market linked pension" to scare people into accepting the status quo.
If this fails you can then expect them to take it up to an even more hysterical pitch, talking about how this will "trigger the disintegration of Europe" and how "Putin is rubbing his hands with glee as the West tears itself apart" and other vague threats of war.
I'm not playing down the impact of Brexit btw, it will be a fucking mess, there's lot of UKIP voting homeowners in the south-east of England who don't fully appreciate what risks they're taking with their brittle wealth, but the attacks we're going to say are going to go way beyond that, so be ready for it.
It's crucially important that Corbyn keeps up his policy of reluctanct campaigning and refusing to work with the Tories and having seperate campaigns. Realistically, Cameron can't win round eurosceptic Tories now, so the establishment's only hope is that Corbyn will "put aside differences and appear with Cameron for the sake of national unity" and try and win around Labour voters to the cause. Usually a Labour leader would have no qualms with this but it's going to be very difficult to do with Corbyn because 1) they hate him, and visa versa 2) he's not beholden to them and owes them nothing and 3) he's actually a eurosceptic who wants to keep his nose out of this referendum as much as possible so that the Tories can own the consequences of it, one way or another.
>>77239909
UH OH - THE GUARDIAN HAS DISCOVERED BEN GARRISON
Leave.eu’s cartoon is not just racist – it’s worse than that
Andrew Brown
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/14/leave-eu-cartoon-racist-nazi-brexit-antisemitism-1945
>>77242290
>I'm voting on democracy and sovereignty
You are, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about those who are voting only on immigration.
gf just sent me a snapchat lads
>>77242043
>I'm just curious where the connection between brexit and fixing the problem with too many eastern europeans is
Immigration will still be fucked after Brexit but it'll be a step in the right direction. It wont be as easy for your uneducated and criminal to get to the UK despite the fact that no borders are 100% secure. We currently have no control, any is better than that. If people from Eastern Europe get through under the points system because they are educated and speak English, then I have no problem with that.
>>77242306
>But I've read a lot of the people voting "leave" do it just because of eastern european immigrants.
Then you're retarded if you think that's what Brexit is about, it's simply one issue out of many.
There is still work to do lads.
REEEEEEEEEEE
Fact:
Farage can ruin this referendum for us.
He has done his work. He has got us the referendum.
But according to YouGov polling, swing voters - the ones who will decide the referendum now - much prefer Cameron to Farage.
The less coverage Farage gets from now on, the better.
It has to be left to Boris and Gove and the ladies. Farage can do nothing but harm from now on.
>>77242204
How do you intend to do that, when some people refuse to acknowledge the facts you present them?
Don't get me wrong I'd love to be able to convince some people I know, but they seem to have their heads buried too firmly in the sand.
>>77242399
I wish he'd make a version without the mudslimes, because I can't share the original on facebook without risking being arrested for enciting racial hatred / violence. What a fucking stupid law.
>@DanHannanMEP 2m2 minutes ago
The best news of the campaign so far. Jean-Claude Juncker is coming to Britain to campaign for Remain.
>>77242438
>tfw converted my gf from sitting on the fence to being strongly in favour of brexit
I also converted 5 drunken chaps I met the other night
>>77242456
>Still undecided
>>77239525
I'm kinda hoping England get knocked out of the football early so legions of pissed off fans come back and vote out of Europe as a big "fuck you".
Then win it next time.
>>77242359
I've read that's a major issue to some people. Like in Hull, massive voting for leave just because of the mass eastern euros migration.
>>77242544
I'm sure his famed wet-rag charisma will save the day for the Remainers!
>>77239909
Leave better win ffs
>>77242438
Your GF is based
>>77242399
He's a terrible cartoonist y'know, just on a technical level.
if you have to label all your metaphors and similies in big letters it's a sign you're meaning isn't clear from your art. He's only famous for being so shit that people found it funny to fuck with him.
They way all these newfags, the "alt-right" I believe is the vogue term for them, unironically praise Ben Garrison shows how far this place has fallen.
>>77242456
Fucking Jesus . . .are these people real?
>>77242471
Gove and Boris will be doing the rest of the TV debates
>>77242447
>It wont be as easy for your uneducated and criminal to get to the UK
You'd be surprised. The uneducated and criminal stick together even more.
>Then you're retarded
.....
>it's simply one issue out of many
I literally said that....
>>77241982
>Scots
>>77242456
immigration is so ~complicated~ XD
Therefore we should dissolve borders and sovereignty and shit like that
>>77242399
>RAAACIIISSSTTTT
This is partly why people back Brexit.
The people who are for Remain are noticeably always those who take offence at everything, and people are sick of it.
>>77242471
Unfortunately I agree, especially with the media intend on barraging him at all costs, going so far as to straight up accuse him of racism as a debate point.
It's a particular shame because Nige has thrown some subtle redpills in his speeches/debates before and I don't see Boris doing that.
>>77242399
I think at this point no one cares about accusations of racism because the remain camp have taken hyperbole to ridiculous new heights
How will Brittan do economically if the Brexit succeeds?
Announcement for any brit/pol/ shitposters in Oxford. Daniel Hannan is giving a talk tomorrow in central oxford at bout 1pm, with a walkabout session 11:00 to 12:15 in Templar square
Are these polls cherry picked or is leave actually gaining significant ground?
Leaving cripplechan brit/pol/ they can't stop talking about fucking breastfeeding
>>77242456
Except the basis of the remain argument is a made up number (£4,300).
>overwhelming majority of educated economists think we will be worse off
>"oy vey do what your told goyim"
>>77242544
Juncker coming himself? The house of cards is falling lads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKYSM2dhWE0
Pretty good informative video.
>>77242438
What even is that argument.
Farage literally speaks for us as an MEP, if you don't like Farage representing you, you should be voting Leave.
>>77242809
>Templar Square
Goddammit i just fucking love this country
I swear to everything, if Britain leaves the EU we are so completely fucked it's unreal
>>77242634
alri
I think the EU will act very tough on the UK if you do manage to pull this off.
Like some EU official said; UK will be treated as a deserter.
Or else other EU members will start chiming in.
I do hope you get out though. I will be so disappointed if the Remain side wins. ;____;
>>77242809
Let's all be supportive lads
>>77242713
sadly
>>77242796
temporary downturn, but with room to do better afterwards. no more chains tying us to a failing trading group.
Comparison between the Scottish and EU referendum polls
Just in case you didn't know that the polls predicted No all along
I'm quietly confident we've pulled it off
>>77242813
they're autistic as fuck mate
>>77242739
Thank God.
I'd say Gove is probably better than Boris, too. Not because the people like Gove more (they don't), just because he handles live audiences/debates so damn well.
>>77242438
that's a dude's foot for sure
>>77242697
I quite like his style actually, it rather reminds me of James Gillray
>>77242929
Of course, EU fags be butthurt that they won't have freedome like the UK. They will cry for a while before realising that they need Britain to help them out.
>>77242399
>leave-eu-cartoon-racist-nazi-brexit-antisemitism-1945
HAHAHAHAHA WOW
>>77242900
Please explain your thoughts lad, as an incredible amount of people disagree with you.
>>77242456
These people claims to have 'read up on all the arguments' so they can pose as the voice of reason and scepticism. In reality their minds were made up months ago but they've waited until now to get some facebook likes.
And lol at calling the 350 million figure dodgy when the treasury is pumping out predictions like the £4000 we'd supposedly be worse off by that no credible organisation believes
>>77242809
Oxfords full of cucked kids who will vote remain because their Daddies work at a big EU lobbied company.
>>77242697
To be fair he's an American artist. Most Americans wouldn't understand most of those metaphors because it's nothing to do with America.
>>77242744
You're trying to make it sound as if people want to leave because of Eastern Europeans, that's an oversimplification at best and just wrong at worst.
>You'd be surprised. The uneducated and criminal stick together even more.
I hope you're not seriously trying to tell me that leaving a system in which we literally have no control over which EU migrants come here will have little effect on which EU migrants come here. Will it be perfect in the even of Brexit? Of course not, but as I said in my first post: any control is better than literally none.
>>77242929
>Brits care of what Europoors think of us
Trust me, Sven, the EU can go suck a bag of dicks. If they try to start shit, then we'll level them for a third time.
>>77242796
Worse in the short term, better in the long term
" "Value" has no meaning other than in relationship to living beings. The value of a thing is always relative to a particular person, is completely personal and different in quantity for each living human — "market value" is a fiction, merely a rough guess at the average of personal values, all of which must be quantitatively different or trade would be impossible. … This very personal relationship, "value", has two factors for a human being: first, what he can do with a thing, its use to him… and second, what he must do to get it, its cost to him. There is an old song which asserts that "the best things in life are free". Not true! Utterly false! This was the tragic fallacy which brought on the decadence and collapse of the democracies of the twentieth century; those noble experiments failed because the people had been led to believe that they could simply vote for whatever they wanted… and get it, without toil, without sweat, without tears. … I fancy that the poet who wrote that song meant to imply that the best things in life must be purchased other than with money — which is true — just as the literal meaning of his words is false. The best things in life are beyond money; their price is agony and sweat and devotion . . . and the price demanded for the most precious of all things in life is life itself — ultimate cost for perfect value."
Reminder to volunteer lads.
>>77242597
I have no problem with Eastern Euros . . . I have quite a few latvian mates actually but the numbers of them are a bit excessive; And the ability to control EU migrants is held in Brussels - NOT in Britain . .. . this is where the problem lies.
Britain is not in control . . .and this needs to be addressed, we have tried it through EU channels and gotten nowhere, so Brexit is the only way we can deal with it.
>>77242977
Very nice. Hopefully it can dispell any claims that this is like the Scottish referendum.
>>77242977
Remain was the status quo in the Scottish one.
The situation is reversed here.
If Out is polling 5pts or more ahead throughout the next 9 days, we can be confident.
If it's more 50/50, we might be screwed.
If Remain pulls ahead in the polls, we don't stand a chance.
There's a small chance that in the next week Erdogan basically tells the EU to fuck off and lets all the illegal immigrants cross into Europe unimpeded. That could seal it for Leave.
>>77242422
>what exactly do brits think Brexit is going to achieve?
>Let's not beat around around the bush, you are voting to keep us out of your country right now.
You imply all leave voters are the same though.
Also Eastern Europeans are the scum that is ruining this country much faster than Muslims. They are much more violent over here than the Muslims and although political Islam is a great danger, we have way more slavshit subhumans than Muslims, and they commit a vastly larger amount of crime. Anything that has a possibility of keeping you out will be good. We certainly won't have any more of you. Any immigrant not earning £35000 a year will be booted out under our new laws (which the unelected European Commission is currently challenging cause fuck what our democratic society wants) and when we leave and implement them despite Brussels we can start booting out subhuman slavic filth left right and centre.
>>77243085
It would be like bending our economy over and raping it with a 10 foot barge pole. What's a few immigrants compared to debilitating our country
>Remainians face when they lose on the 24th
I hope u guys leaf
I'm making a prediction here lads.
Cameron's going to wheel this guy out to get more people back on remain.
>>77242929
Let them show their true colors through it then.
>>77243103
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Oxford town (as opposed to the uni area in central) is bitter as fuck about the way things have gone and definitely fertile ground for leave support. Definitely the Uni is pretty much a lost cause; either lefties or neocons; but there are still a few who are on board for leave (speaking as one).
Daniel Hannan is also giving a LATER talk in the Blue Boar lecture hall in central Oxford
>>77243376
Christ he's more likely to make Remain people stay at home
>>77243330
>What's a few immigrants compared to debilitating our country
You either believe the FUD from the remain campaign or you have shit coloured skin. Which is it?
>>77243137
>You're trying to make it sound as if people want to leave because of Eastern Europeans, that's an oversimplification at best and just wrong at worst.
Lad, can you please take a second, calm down and realize I am literally addressing only those few people who are not terribly intelligent and are swayed ONLY by this argument?
Not you.
Not Britain.
Not the majority of people
Probably not even a lot of people.
Just those, for whom the argument of migration is the driving force for their actual vote.
>I hope you're not seriously trying to tell me that leaving a system in which we literally have no control over which EU migrants come here will have little effect on which EU migrants come here. Will it be perfect in the even of Brexit? Of course not, but as I said in my first post: any control is better than literally none.
Oh, no, I agree more control is better than no control. So, um, why vote to leave, which is pretty much the next level of "no control" instead of lead the overwhelming drive towards strict EU migration control? Germany can withstand Poland, Hungary, Italy and such, but if the UK joins we WILL have solid migration control.
So why not go for that, if that's what you want?
>>77243370
*if
>>77243330
Those immigrants ARE debilitating the country, is short term economic "stability" worth giving up our traditions, culture and race?
>>77243282
I'm not sure I agree with you about the Eastern Euros Taffybro.
Brexit is far more than a few Poles getting pissed up and lighting BBQ's.
>>77243370
Based OJ supported Leave for a short period, IIRC (when the Greeks voted to reject the EU bailout plan, but got it anyway, IIRC).
>>77242929
We want them to threaten us, we really are not scared.
I don't think people quite understand this? I don't think they truly get our mentality. The more they threaten, the more they attack, the more we will resist.
It's part of our inbred genetics. It's how we're wired in our heads.
We don't care about being punished by them, let them. We will punish them back.
The EU grew to fast without proper measures. It should have contained the UK, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark.
After that other countries could join as long as they brought their countries up to a standard of these countries with financial responsibility and human/civil rights. This EU could have helped invest in such countries to give them a good chance, but they should not have been given instant EU membership.
Through these measures a strong EU could have been developed and properly managed. Right now we have a festering pile of degeneracy.
Prove me wrong.
>>77243330
That just isn't true now is it? Yes we're likely to experience a short downturn of the economy, but it's worth it.
The EU is undemocratic and it's a failed experiment -- we should get out while we still have the option. Or would you rather let Brussels have the final say in how our country is run, and watch our country fade into obscurity as Russia+China+Asia soar ahead of us?
>>77243330
>a few immigrants
EU shill detected
>>77239909
Just major shorted GBP
t. Soros
>>77242929
Newsflash: we don't care what the EU thinks or does
>>77243370
more likely going to be our faces after they rig it
>>77243282
>The mayor of London is a muslim.
>Muslims are good
>Eastern Europeans baad
>Muslims are good
ayy lmao
>>77243282
>You imply all leave voters are the same though.
Yes, that was my mistake, that line. Not all are like that, I admit, but some are.
>Also Eastern Europeans are the scum
Sigh...
>booting out subhuman slavic filth left right and centre.
But you're not adressing the fact that the lot of us won't really have any major restrictions on actually coming over even after you leave?
And that 35k law sounds reasonable, but what is that, 3k pounds a month? Wouldn't that massively shit on your economy, considering you'd be chasing out even the qualified workers that contribute to it?
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/14/dutch-activist-cruise-uk-help-farage-campaign-brexit/
kek
Will Junker's visit be sucessful or will it backfire hugely?
>>77243146
>>77243037
Yeah, but I'm worried what will happen within the EU if Brexit happens. Britain is one of the biggest opponents against greater federalization and integration. It just feels like Juncker and his pack will want to accelerate the process.
Don't get me wrong, you absolutely have to get out. But there will be an element of chaos to it, and I'm wondering how the EU elite will respond.
Perhaps they will give up their dream of a Europe without nations but it doesn't sound likely.
Good luck guys. Don't stay home on the couch when it's time to vote.
>>77240251
>giving concessions already
It's going to be beautiful to see what they offer us when we vote to leave
>>77243442
>Not you.
>Let's not beat around around the bush, you are voting to keep us out of your country right now
>Not Britain.
>Let's not beat around around the bush, you are voting to keep us out of your country right now
>Not the majority of people
>Let's not beat around around the bush, you are voting to keep us out of your country right now
>Probably not even a lot of people.
>Let's not beat around around the bush, you are voting to keep us out of your country right now
>Just those, for whom the argument of migration is the driving force for their actual vote.
Then what's your point? That a tiny minority of people are voting because they don't like Eastern Europeans? Who gives a shit. That's a tiny issue out of many for 99% of Leave voters. Fuck off you low grade bank clerk.
>>77241933
no, wut u talkin aboot?
>>77243608
Fool me once...
>>77243214
So if the control is in Brussels and Brussels is falling apart and has no legitimacy and only the fact that Germany is stronger than the rest is keeping it intact, why not just take over Brussels and change it there?
>>77243666
It's the Medway all over again.
>Thank you based Dutch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_William
>>77243330
In what way do you think it would be bad for the economy in the long term?
>>77243683
We just need to tweet all his fucked up quotes tagged to his campaign bus, and it will fail
>>77243683
Backfire.
>>77243442
wew, wat?
Voting to give restore sovereignty over matters of immigration is literally the definition of taking control.
>>77243698
Already voted via postal vote. I'm proud to have voted leave.
>>77243683
Cameron was desperate for it not to happen. That tells you all you need to know.
>>77243370
>June 24th
>Leave wins by over 60%
>>77243376
He's been very quiet on the issue and has a ne show coming up that Amazon paid a shit load of money for. He will not risk the rest of his career being dragged into political discussion. He is a globalist, and loves the EU, but he only says it when badgered.
>>77243500
Not saying they're the only thing wrong with it just saying they're as bad if not worse than Muslims, at least in Wales/North West. Barely see a shitskin around here but then flocks of Russian/Lithuanian/Polish filth go round breaking shit and intimidating locals. I've developed a natural hatred of them.
>>77242832
He can't handle the Farage barrage.
>>77243698
>how the EU elite will respond.
The way they always do: more legislation, more control, more centralization.
>>77243727
I am going to quietly disengage as you seem intent on semantics instead of any semblance of an actual discussion.
If you want to actually talk about the issues, let me know, I'm open to that.
And yes, writing that line was a mistake, I didn't think it through.
>Waifu of the Brexit campaign?
Andrea Leadsom, the red jacketed woman from the iTV Boris / Sturgeon debate. I want to have common-sense conservative aristocratic babies with her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcAywz3SaOo
>>77243666
On April 6, a convincing 61 percent of the Dutch voters said “No” to the undesirable Association Treaty. So was that the end of that? Was democracy saved from the talons of the EU technocrats?
..And then we were ignored
Unfortunately, no. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, forced by his betters in Brussels, decided to completely ignore the outcome of the referendum. The Dutch voter was shunned by their national leaders, and, once again, democratic voices were muffled by the unelected officials of the European Union.
As the organizers of the Dutch referendum, we are not here to meddle in your national business. Dear Lord no — We’re not Brussels. But we do feel a need to tell you our story. Because democracy matters. And in the European Union – the people’s voices are silenced and shunned.
Read and share our story. Decide for yourself how highly you value the sovereignty of your national democracy. And cast your vote accordingly on June 23rd.
With love,
Your democratic friends from the Netherlands
Daww
>>77242796
>How will Brittan do economically if the Brexit succeeds?
Probably lose 1 or 2 per cent of GDP per annum, if there's significant capital flight and the value of the pound drops.
The worst case scenario is that the disruption in the value of sterling might lead problems in the housing market. Assetts equivalent to 40% of GDP are tied up in valuable property, based around London and the south-east of England in particular. This is a bubble in many ways, it's a bloated market propped up by huge state intervention in the form of "help to buy" and other forms of public subsidy. It would put the City in an awkward position cos a strong currency is generally in their interests, and it's in the national interest because the buisness they do in finance helps offset the current account deficit and the horrible balance of trade (due to the decline of manufacturing for export) so but on the other hand it means the City can be exempt from potential Europe-wide taxes, regulations and tariffs, and you could see how the City's stranglehold over Britain got stronger if the country became internationally isolated.
In theory Britain could survive fine outside the EU, with only a few problems losing only a small amount of it's GDP due to uncertainty and so on, but in that scenario Britain would still have to stay in the European Economic Area, accept free movement of people and capital, abide by EU regulations, similar in a way to how Norway does it, and I don't think brexiters would be happy with that cos it's too much like EU membership in all but name.
>>77242929
If we remain we're doubly fucked, you think they'll be hard on us for leaving? Imagine actually staying where they have power over us and they need to show what happens to any other countries thinking about leaving.
>>77243330
> It would be like bending our economy over and raping it with a 10 foot barge pole.
No it wouldn't. Even Osborne's own WORST CASE scenario projections show economic growth after Brexit. Stop falling for project fear. Slightly less growth in exchange for control over our country sounds like a good trade.
>>77239909
Ave Britannia
>>77240421
They're just humouring you.
It's politics. People lie to shut up little pricks who think they've got it all figured out.
>>77243868
FUCK forgot image
>>77243800
Sure it is.
In theory.
In practice and in this case, what will actually bring back control?
>>77240037
Greece will not leave, they can only do-so by converting their debt to drachma and printing off sheets of it and handing to IMF and the German banks. Merkel will not allow it. The Greeks also know this mean hyper-inflation and price-controls incoming, those that have not evacuated will do so next.
Netherlands will be next, Irish know they are just thick paddys so will stay for the gibs
>>77243881
I wonder if they had to travel to Eton to take that.
If they did, they'd have to drive through Slough. Suckers.
>>77243960
My mum brought it up out of the blue that she switched, not humoring me at all, autismo.
>>77243756
>why not just take over Brussels and change it there
How many times have we tried? . . .I think I read somewhere that Cameron has made about 70 proposals and they have all been vetoed.
Changing the EU from the inside is a myth.
>>77243868
>
You are about 25 years too late m8.
>>77244004
Around 50% of our laws are from Brussels
We can't even stop a flood of euroniggers (eastern europeans) from coming.
We can't fish in our own waters.
>>77243574
It is true otherwise I wouldnt have said. Those countries are only overtaking us due to their shall we say "comfortably low" working conditions and standards. Also, our country is not the superpower it once was. If we leave then business leaves us. No doubt
What is funny about the whole thing is that the EU could completely save UK from Brexit if they just swallowed a hard pill and offered the following.
20 Years of completely independent immigration policy, full control over eu freedom of movement rules.
There you go Merkel you filthy swine, offer that and UK would remain
I'm still amazed they allowed you to have a referudum tbqh, they dun goofd
>>77243756
When in the last 50 or so years has Brussels made any kind of meaningful concession to any member state on open borders or sovereignty?
>>77243859
Then don't act like I'm misinterpreting you by saying that you've made it sound as if Eastern Europeans are a central issue for most people. You did. They aren't.
Leaving an undemocratic disaster that we get no clear benefits from and that costs us both freedom and a huge amount of money is a far easier way of gaining control over immigration than remaining and battling bureaucracy and other European nations over decades.
>>77244077
nice dubs mate
>>77242929
I don't think you understand the mentality of the British public. The more they threaten us, the more likely we are to tell them to fuck off
>corbyn will come out at the last minute for vote leave
>>77243905
>stop falling for project fear
Yeah, because there are no fear tactics associated with the immigrants. None at all
>>77244004
An Australian-style points system.
Impossible under EU rules on free movement. So literally no control, none, never. It is possible, however improbable, under self-rule.
People will still come in, some will emigrate. There will be movement but it will be restricted by rules and quotas.
The best thing about having sovereignty, is that you can decide. The UK can decide to accept free movement, and then decide later to rescind. That's why any sane Brit would vote leave. Even those who love immigration.
>>77244160
They can't.
The eurocrats have a dream of a bordereless europe. She has to weigh everything up. If she offered 20 years of immigration policy control every other country would demand it and borders would shut for good.
>>77244293
There aren't any if you've ever had to live in very "multicultural" parts of the country
>>77242929
>I do hope you get out though. I will be so disappointed if the Remain side wins.
You are a sadist m8.
You just want Britain to suffer.
>>77244176
Cameron promised it thinking he wouldn't end up in a position where he would have to deliver, but then he won a majority and he had no choice.
>>77244272
And risk his new student/youth supporters?
>>77242471
>>swing voters - the ones who will decide the referendum now - much prefer Cameron to Farage.
undecideds trust farage
>>77240947
Put Falklands flag on it, trust me, it's fucking gold
>>77244153
Oh well, I hadn't seen him comment on it in a long time. Still having an opinion isn't controversial, but letting Cameron wheel him around to get the populist vote would be.
>>77244176
>I'm still amazed they allowed you to have a referudum tbqh, they dun goofd
It's because Cameron is a very arrogant and smug man. He didn't think they'd win the last election, so he promisd the referendum on the basis that 1) they can drop it in return for forming a coalition, like he did with the Liberal Democrats in 2010 or 2) even if they have to go ahead with it, the British people can be frightened into voting for the status quo if the entire establishment works together as they did in Scotland.
That hasn't been able to happen for a number of reasons (if you want to know more just ask I don't want to give you walls of text), and it's right about now that they realise their arrogance and stupidity is going to return to bite them in the arse.
>>77244350
Oh yeah, I realise that it would be so incredible that the likelyhood is almost zero.
However, if they really think Brexit will result in the downfall of the EU, it is the only option to save it.
>>77243756
>why not just take over Brussels and change it there
The EU system is built so that is impossible. We can't put the people with power, out of power. We can't vote them out.
The most basic democratic principle being that we delegate people power to do our will, and if we're not happy with it, that's what elections are for.
But the EU elections are a farce and is far from where the power actually lies.
>>77243836
>at least in Wales/North West. Barely see a shitskin around here
Same where I am mate . . .. but I had to catch a coach to go up North. I had to go to London, then Brum, Then Leicester before carrying on.
Mate . . . .. those cities were as depressing as fuck . . .. you have no idea, same as me we only see a few drunk Slavs but Jesus Christ . . .I would hate to live in a place with Mussies.
Count yourself lucky.
>>77243898
So why not go the obvious third option and actually change the things wrong with the EU?
Not a lot of you seem to understand this, but let's list the countries that are cucked and maintain the status quo:
>Germany
>probably Sweden
>Netherlands, but only the political system, not the people
>France because it is Germany's bitch, but Le Pen is becoming an actual possibility so soon it won't
>uhhh Latvia and Lithuania?
>Romania and Bulgaria I guess?
>Belgium
>I think Croatia a little bit
>the grand powerful country of Slovenia (I think)
Versus those who want to change:
>Italy
>Poland
>Hungary
>Austria
>Slovakia
>Czech Republic
>Greece
Now you tell me, if the UK throws its weight behind the camp that wants to change stuff, will it not be able to?
>implying the plebs will ever leave
>...what do you mean UKIP are taking our votes? Fuck it, have a referendum, show those cunts what for, fucking loonies and fruitcakes
>W-what do you mean Brexit could happen? YOU TOLD ME IT COULDN'T FUCKING HAPPEN! RAMP UP PROJECT FEAR INTO OVERDRIVE, SLAM DUNK THEM INTO THE GROUND WITH NO SURVIVORS, STOP THE BREXIT TRAIN NOW
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY'RE IGNORING THE CHICKEN LITTLE "SKY IS FALLING" BULLSHIT? HOW DO THEY KNOW IT'S BULLSHIT?
>YOU SAID PROJECT FEAR WOULD WORK AGAIN WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY HAVE A 7 POINT LEAD FUCKING PUBLIC LISTEN TO ME REE
>>77244409
I dont quite get your point
>>77244557
>>77244557
>>77244557
NEW THREAD
>>77244433
Not according to YouGovs latest analysis:
>The effect also disappears amongst swing voters who distinctly prefer David Cameron to Nigel Farage.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/remain-or-leave-what-numbers-below-headlines-tell-/
>>77244421
Would he risk the reputation he has built up over the last 30 years?
>>77244576
There's no way you can be that dense.
>>77244547
lmao cameron looks like an american on his first trip abroad
>>77244411
I want them to abandon ship while they can.
Sweden is fucked, but not everyone has to go down with us.
>>77244253
this
The continentals don't understand it. Were are not Greeks or Italians we won't roll over and surrender.
>>77244127
Like I said, you won't stop the Eastern Europeans with your own laws.
>>77244338
>An Australian-style points system.
Go ahead.
Won't impact Eastern European immigration the tiniest bit.
>>77244547
And now he's stepped down from campaigning entirely.
>>77243666
>>77243874
I did shed a tear, it's nice to know the Dutch care, the Dutch truly have been good allies of ours.
They've helped us with William, they help us when we have flooding.
God bless the Dutch.
>>77243683
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Juncker
have a read through some of the shit he's said. Cameron very specifcally wanted him to stay the fuck out of it because he's toxic. However he insisted that if leave was winning the polls in the final week he be allowed to comment
>>77244529
>Now you tell me, if the UK throws its weight behind the camp that wants to change stuff, will it not be able to?
No, because Germany and France run the EU. The only even half relevant nation in that second list is Italy.
>>77243885
Very interesting indeed. I'm not sure if you will be able to avoid tariffs once you leave the EU? But freeing yourselves from the taxes and regulations is what I see as the most beneficial.
>>77241088
No other large country could do this and get away with it, we're making a sacrifice.
It'll help set precedent for others to leave
>>77244529
You're still acting as if immigration is the central issue.
>I agree that the EU is undemocratic, expansionist and overly bureaucratic
>Here's how I think you can fix a separate issue while necessarily remaining stuck with the others.
Leaving is the only thing that potentially solves all 4.
>>77244754
>Won't impact Eastern European immigration the tiniest bit.
Apart from it stopping a flood of unskilled workers and gypsy hobos?
>>77244668
Apparently so. It seems like youre saying that fear tactics are never used about immigrants. For example about the swarm of Turkish theives who will be coming to our shores apparently. I get that people are scared of being racist if thats what you mean but otherwise I'm not sure what you're saying
>>77244709
>Sweden is fucked, but not everyone has to go down with us.
And how are you fucked if i may ask?
>>77244529
>actually change the things wrong with the EU?
It's literally impossible. They've tried. The EU continuously overrides and goes against the wishes of it's peoples, because it's not democratic.
>>77244528
Leicester, jesus Christ. I stayed there for 3 weeks in April and it was literally spot the white man. I was in a flat right next to a hala food shop and everyone was a shit skin I felt like a foreigner in my own country. I felt so good to get back to Wales
>I never saw a black man in real life until I was 15 years old
I miss my innocence.
>>77244529
>>77244909
Not to mention the fact that the UK (and other EU countries) has been told time and time again including this year that free movement is non-negotiable. At least do your research first.
>>77243330
Wow after that intelligent comment I am now a #RemainRocket
>>77244946
Have you ever lived in the inner city? Everyone isn't holding hands and having ice cream mate
>>77243626
>majority of london is muslims.
School needs to start up already, i can't be bothered educating these people.
>>77244946
Yea all those little girls being buttfucked by sandniggers are just using fear tactics
>>77244293
People are legitimately concerned about the rampant immigration going on. Without even addressing the cultural and social damage it's causing, do you understand supply and demand? People would like to be able to own a house one day. The more people come in, the more house prices will rise, the most cost of living will increase, the more strain on public services. How many people is too many in your mind? 100 million? A billion people on our little island? At some point it needs to be capped or we'll have the living standards of your average Indian.
The marginalising of these concerns by people like you is exactly the reason the traditionally labour voting working class feel abandoned by the left and is voting us out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/house-prices/no-end-in-sight-for-generation-rent-this-is-how-much-youll-need/
>>77243683
Like Gordon Brown, it will backfire spectacularly.
>>77244893
>I'm not sure if you will be able to avoid tariffs once you leave the EU?
If we agree to abide by free movement of people and stay in the European Economic Area (which is the EU plus Norway and a few minor statelets) then it's very unlikely they'll introduce tariffs. They'll probably make a "deal" along those lines at the EU leaders summit on the 28th the week after the referendum and offer it to Cameron, which he'll approve with parliament without recourse to a referendum. UKIP's will cry betrayal but it's all perfectly legal and constitutional so long as we techincally stay out of the EU.
>>77244893
>But freeing yourselves from the taxes and regulations is what I see as the most beneficial.
I'm not so sure about that myself, since it's only the City of London, a huge global financial centre which dominates both politics and economics in Britain, which will be exempt from taxes.Other forms of taxes might go up to make up the shortfall a Brexit-recession would potentially cause.
You also have to see that even if Boris Johnson and co. could offer that sort of sweetner to the City, then it still wouldn't be enough to offset the vast damage that a weak pound would do in the housing market. If the London and south-east housing market crashed you'd see very significant global effects as a result, just as we did when California went up in smoke back in 2007-8.
That's a worse case scenario, but even in the best case, and where the housing market doesn't crash, we just end up with the City even more powerful - so Britain is basically Bermuda without the sun, a massive offshore tax haven for people to dump their money on.
In the 70's, back when Britain last had a referendum on the EU, the left-wing of the Labour party were the main proponents of leaving on the basis that a weak pound would damage the City and provide opportunities for British industrial manufacturing to be competitive globally.
>>77245425
Goddamnit it would be nice if you defined your fucking point. What am I not getting? Is it that migrants commit crime because I understand that. I really don't get how this counters my point of Vote Leave also using fear tactics
>>77241666
Hail Satan the "Belgian"
>>77245488
That's PC culture. Scummy but not evidence against fear tactics
>>77243330
laughable
>>77245524
That's a fair point. However, if we leave we will be more fucked than immigrants could ever cause. Who cares how many houses there are if no one can afford one?
>>77240130
>Chezia
what
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