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Is Elie weisel a liar?
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did he really run 42 miles in snow with an injured foot in the worst shape of his life? this seems really hard to believe

also general joo skepticism thread
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>>72063675
Funny thing about that book, read it years ago in my high school English class, even the teacher was a Jew, but the story was never presented to the class as non-fiction.
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>>72063675
Nigga killed his dad lol
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>>72063675
I remember that book. I'm pretty sure that's what lead me to asking questions.

But, no he did not. He's a liar and should be hung.
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did they give nobel peace prizes to everyone who survived the Holocaust? this shit is getting ridiculous
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I always liked Night. Never believed a word of it though. Even before finding out about the Holohoax.
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He said that some parts of the book were made up, and has on many occasions presented statements that contradict his other statements or historically accepted fact.
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>>72063675
Some things are true than never happened, and other things that happened are not true.
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>>72063675
runs 42 miles in a night
at night
in snow

this is what elite ultramarathon freaks do after months and months of perfect preparation and OCD nutrition plans in perfect weather with high tech running gear
so, no.
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what are some of the parts that are made up, I haven't read it in like 16 years.
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My great uncle was there at the liberation. Never talked about what he saw at the camp but used to go on for hours about the guards. He was an MP so he and the other MPs looted so much shit. Guy had Nazi sword, Lugars, and Jew jewelry hidden in his ceiling when he died. Considering he pawned most of his stuff to support the lifestyle of a gambling alcoholic I can't imagine how much he shipped home.
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>>72063675
Yeah I remember reading this in school and thinking there's no fucking way. He'll even the guards probably wouldn't be able to run that Long. Fun fact; my hair brained English teacher literally thought that the dad in the story was named "shlomo"
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His name is Weasel, why would you trust him?
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>>72064803
My grandfather was in a hospital in England recovering from a bullet wound when he noticed the British army dumping German firearms into a creek. He went into the water and using a rake pulled out at least 10 mp40s. He had a British carpenter build some shipping crates and he tried to ship them back to the states. I think that they seized the shipments but I am not sure
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>>72064803
I had a great-grandfather who looted a bunch of stuff after the surrender. He came home with a few pins, medals, and an officer's dress bayonet which I still have to this day.
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>>72063675
I read that in school for English. I think everyone in the class agreed that it was a fictional story loosely based on his experience.
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>>72063675
He is a fucking jew.
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Read The Holocaust Industry.

Finkelstein rails on Wiesel constantly
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>>72063675
When I read this in high school I said the book was fake and that most of the things we learn about the holocaust aren't real in front of the class. I was called a racist and was made fun of for the rest of the year. I did end up redpilling a few kids though and made a cult of conspiracy theoring holocaust deniers
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>>72066495
Good job. I hope you are fine?!
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>>72066385
>"lieutenant, have mercy! she's too hungry to send to her death!"
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He also had his grandparents tied to his back

..And an anvil in each of his pockets
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>>72063675
As unlikely as it sounds, adrenaline is a hell of a drug. And weirder shit has happened before.
>pic related
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>>72067148
But with an injured foot and in the worst shape anyone could be in? Adrenaline can only do so much
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He was there, you neonazis weren't, end of story. Stop with the conspiracy theories.
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>>72067148
why does the FBI have your mom's dildo?
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>>72063675
It was real in his mind.
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>>72068942
>But with an injured foot and in the worst shape anyone could be in? Adrenaline can only do so much
There have been reports of people who have lifted cars off people because of Adrenaline. Adrenaline is fucking crazy.
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>>72068942
>>72070144
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=170_1396117152
This man survived the forty or so minutes it took to get him to the hospital.
The 42 miles part is almost definitely exaggerated but I would not be surprised if he could run at least 20 to 35.
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>>72070144
Yes.
There are examples of Adrenaline giving people in ordinary physical condition the capacity to do monumental feats for a few seconds and up to a few minutes.

What the book describes would take a well trained superb physical specimen at least 5 or 6 hours to do.
There is no way in hell a wounded and malnourished individual would be able to make that run on sheer adrenaline
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>>72070292
The body is a weird thing. I remember someone in class telling that their uncle once did acid, and years later he got into an accident which triggered a flashback. He was able to walk all the way to a hospital with a broken back because of the flashback.
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>>72067148
Adrenaline can frame Lee Harvey Oswald for murder?
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>>72070144
The reason you can do incredible feats while on an adrenaline high is because it allows you to ignore pain and removes the limitations your body usually places on the use of your muscles to stop you from ripping yourself to pieces. If you had it going for 8 hours or so of intense action your legs would just stop working because the fibers had all been destroyed
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>>72070557
>There is no way in hell a wounded and malnourished individual would be able to make that run on sheer adrenaline
I think if you have no other option and are extremely dedicated to survival, it's possible. So we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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>>72063675
I met an auchwitz survivor and she said Elie Wiesel is probably a liar
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>>72063675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRKv8Fd3HM&ab_channel=BrotherNathanael
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>>72063675
There's also a part where da evil Nazis start murdering babies with their bayonets... Now that you mentioned it this whole story seems fabricated.
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Was way over the top. There's a scene at the beginning where soldiers throw an infant into the air to use as a clay pigeon.
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>>72064179
dude me too
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Reminder that "muh rapes" is a total myth. When Russian soldiers entered Germany in 1945 German women willingly flocked to them. In their shame, their cucked husbands invented the myth of "muh rapes" which was later turned into propaganda by NATO for the Cold War
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>>72071013
Haha
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I was laughing my ass off in high school english when his dying father is telling him how to find the gold buried in their house.
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>>72063675
If the night lasted 12 hours then he would need to be going at 4 mph.

If the night lasted 8 hours then he would need to be going at 6 mph
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>>72071112
And all the women that were raped to death and committed suicide after their rapes?
Those were what?
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>>72071063
>Was way over the top. There's a scene at the beginning where soldiers throw an infant into the air to use as a clay pigeon.
There have been serial killers that have done worse than that to infants.
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>>72064660
the whole thing
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>>72064922
My fucking english teacher did the same. Kek
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>>72063932

Surely you mean fiction.
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>>72065649
Mine looted a luger and this old tattered swastika. Not a bad inheritance.
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>>72071220
Burger didn't pay attention in class...
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>>72063675
It's not impossible. There's people in 3rd world countries and the Appalachians who are capable of similar.
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This book has been debunked. Some contend that the guy wasn't even in the camp. He's also a nasty anti-Christian cunt. Sad!
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>>72063675
He came to my Afrikaans school when we were younger.
He was actually pretty based and insisted that our families hold onto their guns.
That's a win in our books.
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>>72071063
I remember reading that too. If the SS are trying to maintain order and escort the prisoners unknowingly to the gas chambers, why would they do something that outrageous?
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>>72071767
The bodies of third world niggers are literally designed for high endurance running

There's a reason why Olympic sprints are consistently won by niggers

An injured Ashkenazi Jew? Not so much
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>>72071112


Poor JEWDY....in dirt no one can hear you scream.
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>>72071240
The same bitches that moan about rape today.
Ignore them and they will leave, one way or another.
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This book was presented as factual in my school
>the school had one holocaust book assigned a year
>tfw doing crocodile tears during holocaust movies so all the girls can coo over me
Good times
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From the wikipedia article on "Night", when Wiesel (weasel) was confronted by a RABBI for his fabrications:

>The Rebbe leaned forward as if to measure me up and said with more sorrow than anger: That means you are writing lies! I did not answer immediately. The scolded child within me had nothing to say in his defense. Yet, I had to justify myself: "Things are not that simple, Rebbe. Some events do take place but are not true; others are—although they never occurred."[67]

>"Things are not that simple, Rebbe. Some events do take place but are not true; others are—although they never occurred."
this is seriously one of the most jewish things I've ever read.
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>>72064628

You don't need perfect nutrition or preparation. Running a marathon is not that difficult.
step 1) have good cardio
step 2) take breaks
step 3) complete the marathon
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The word is JEW...a name that means LIAR.
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>>72072765

Fuck off you silly fucking Jew.
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>>72071464
>tfw your grandpa looted absolutely nothing
He did earn a bronze and silver star however, which I have in a case.
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>>72063675
He gave a presentation at our school once, and that lying jew ate fucking pork
Not even a lie
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Isn't that the retarded book where the jew says that they evil nadziz officer was gunning people down with a fucking revolver?
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>>72072765
No, but you do need MUSCLE TISSUE
If he was as malnourished as he purports in the book his body would have long since started to breakdown its own muscle tissue and cannibalized it in an effort to gain any nutrients it could.
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>>72063675

If it weren't so controversial to even bring it up, there would be absolutely no question that the man currently parading around as Elizar Wiesel is a fraud.

There almost certainly was such a man, however, and whether the early draft of Night was written by him is much more arguable.
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>>72072763
>>"Things are not that simple, Rebbe. Some events do take place but are not true; others are—although they never occurred."
just how far gone does someone have to be to think this is a rational way to think?
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this book is the reason why I wrote an essay on how the holocaust didn't happen

>mfw the teacher called me in to talk at the end of the class

eat shit, kike
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>>72073312
>mfw when I nearly believed you
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>>72073481

I think it was freshman year of high school

>my face when when
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>>72073625
damn, you've got balls then.

would be great to read it, if you have a copy of it somewhere?
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>>72073728

Everything from my high school years are gone, I had no use for it. It was a shitty essay from stuff I learned on /b/ and their holocaust denial threads back then.
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>>72073270

Jews are masters of deception. Hitler once said arguing with Jews is like trying to grab smoke.
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>>72070144
Adrenaline doesn't last for 42 miles.
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>>72073953
what did you land up getting for it?
or did you have to rewrite it?
i can't imagine pulling off something like that, but then again i went to a jewish school...
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>>72070144
Adrenaline only lasts for about 20 minutes and then its shot for at least 12 hours
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>>72074156

Like a 90 or something. i was that lonely quiet depressed kid who always had his head down in the back of the class so all she did was ask if i was okay and then send me on my way
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>>72072765
>2)Take Breaks

As if the supposedly devilish Nazi guards would let them have a lunch break every once in a while
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>>72072765
42 miles is a lot fucking farther than 26

you have no clue what its like to run that

you need a shit load of glycogen in your body to run a marathon

if you've been not getting a lot of carbohydrate even in the past week, running 5 miles will be incredibly hard and then you will just bonk and you become so confused after a bit more of that state that cannot even function.

even if you were an elite runner, and you had a very reduced caloric intake for a week prior, you would keel over in a ditch after an hour of moderate to hard running
42 miles in a night in snow is very hard running
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Aliar Weasel testified under oath in a metropolitan NY court that he was struck by a taxi and thrown an entire city block. Muh JEWSHEKELS!
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>>72063675
He's a cunning wiesel.
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>>72071013
He stole that from the Japanese at Nanking. They did that, not the Germans.
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>>72071112
T. Pitor Russkivsky
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>>72074663
I knew a kid exactly like you in high school who made it no secret about his hatred of the jews.

He always came into school with this disheveled look and looked like he was about ready to shoot up the school at any moment.
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>>72075913
Considering the amount of german soldiers there were, I don't think it's unbelievable that some corrupted german soldiers did that. Usually people with murderous interests will take advantage of war.
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I thought it was a good book but most likely untrue.
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>>72070870
lol
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>>72070590
>Trusting high school children anecdotes
People in high school told me the dumbest shit ever
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did you amerigoys seriously all read this propaganda in class? my bad.

its a typical example of the jewish chutzpah : say big liar with audacity and laugh at the naive goyim who will believe it.
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>>72076158
It wasn't high school, It was in college. And he had no reason to lie
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>>72072763
>Some events do take place but are not true; others are—although they never occurred."

>It was real in my mind.
But even worse and convoluted.

I'll be damned if that's not the most jewish sentence I've ever read.
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Reminder
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>>72073312
These two kids drew a picture of The Jewavore in science class in 7th grade and left it for Mrs. Weinstein to find. Shit was a grotesque kaiju with swastika eyes gobbling up Jews.

The entire rest of the year our science education was suspended and the new curriculum was DIVERSITY
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>>72063675
No idea if it is in fact true, but the name strikes me as something a false-Jew would anglicize their name to.

and now that I've noticed that inadvertent rhyme scheme, I shall display skills that for most are a pipe dream. My team are the ones who hold onto their guns. Not for acts that warrant warrants and put them on the run. But for criminals who break in and try to steal a ton, and the tyranny 'round the corner that have some people stunned. The shows begun. and the people yell and applaud.
They dance 'round the golden calf, and they clap and they nod. They chose the material path, formed a pact with that "god." Didn't know it was a trap till they laughed then forgot.
Stuck, they ranked up, to try and keep us on this rock. They know their odds suck, which is why they press the talks, to fill humans with hubris, and consequently mock, the one who died for our sins, paid for it and bought.
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>>72076121
>Considering the amount of german soldiers there were
That's not a german behavior that was ever seen in the past, unlike with the asians.
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>>72076824

>Be elie weasel lie my ass off, tattoo a number on my arm none will find out because muh 6 million, people start to ask questions . Oy vey it was all real in my mind
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>>72076831

Towards the end of high school I had an english class with a jewish coal burning feminist. We argued every day about feminism. She spouted the typical CNN talking points about muh wage gap, muh sexism, etc etc etc. When we read othello, she kept mentioning the thought of a big strong bald black man made her swoon. The class was really uncomfortable with it. Looking back in my iCloud folder a week ago, I found the jewish propaganda they made me write essays about, how nelson mandela was a good boy who dindu nuffin, about how abortion is a healthy part of society, and shit like that. Gross - the academic marxist agenda is well and alive, don't let anybody tell you otherwise.
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>>72078377

Forgot to mention the jewish coal burning feminist was the teacher.
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>>72063675
I believe the holocaust happened and that it was 6 million.

72 million people died in ww2. 6 million is not that many or very difficult.
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>>72078941

Nice one Chaim...now get back to polishing the blech.
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>>72078941
Auschwitz was part of the 6 million total.
It was later scientifically reevaluated at no more than 1.3 million instead of 4 millions.

Auschwitz alone disprove the 6 million as a real event.
This is propaganda that existed long before the war.
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kikes on the front page
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>>72063675
I met him when he came to speak at my high school back in 2009. If you saw his eyes, you'd know that what he wrote was true. That guys went through some real shit.
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>>72063675
Yo wtf was that part in there about the kid playing the violin or something while he was crushed by the weight of 30 other starved juden
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>>72076499
Yes. I'd venture to say most of us were forced to read Night and Anne Frank's Diary. Usually several movies, and if you were within reasonable distance to a Holocaust/Jewish museum, that was a field trip.

It's pushed hard.
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I believe the Holocaust happened in some form. It's a fact that Jewish citizens were rounded up and deported to prison camps. It's also a fact that there were plenty of mass shootings of civilians that occurred in Eastern Europe as the Nazis conquered territory. My problem is that almost every single fucking account from survivors has historical and logistical inaccuracies in them and they vary wildly from each other.

For example, the guy who wrote "Night" describes a giant pit of fire that Jews were being thrown into as they arrived which he and his father barely avoided being thrown into. I've literally never read about this anywhere else.

Filip Muller is probably the only survivor's account that I trusted.
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>>72077906
>>72076121
yeah, Germans were methodical and practical about their extermination, that's what made the idea of the Holocaust so fucked up in the first place, it was so dehumanizing. I really don't see Germans stabbing babies for fun, it's not in their blood
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>>72074887
It's also not a 3 hour event, hell provided night is about 42 miles in 8 hours that's a snail's pace
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>>72063675
This book is a disgrace
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IT WAS REAL

IN MY MIND
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>>72077906
>>72080955
lol nice generalizing. As if german serial killers never existed. As if some serial killers aren't attracted powerful positions. As if serial killers don't take advantage of legal violence.
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>>72082553
>As if german serial killers never existed.
THey do, study them and you will realize it is not possible geram act in such way.

This isn't meticulate and autistic enough.
It's something frenchs would do, not germans.
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>>72063675
CALL TO ARMS thread may be shit but this got interesting
can anyone help us what he has and bump the thread >>72081419 → →
>>72081419 → →
>>72081419 → →

>german bro unknown cargo with military key harbor and air field is closed
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>>72063675

even reading it as a middle schooler it made me a little skeptical. good books though
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>>72076121
I've never read a report on this happening, but perhaps in some instance it may have. the gas chambers and all the rest of it are absurd notions, but there were documented anti-partisan operations in the east that got incredibly brutal at times (tho far less brutal than the terror bombing campaign of the allies, and far less expansive than the communists' ethnic cleansing and barbaric treatment of POWs and civilians). astounding the way war brings out the worst in us. astounding still how it's nigh impossible to discuss the truth of this war and its causes.
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>>72080601
i went to the museum of tolerance. got me out of class at least
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