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Austria Election General VI: It's Over Edition


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Second round of elections on May 22: Norbert Hofer vs. Van der Bellen.

(FPÖ/Center-right) vs. (Greens).

Hofer roped the competition with 35% national average.

http://www.bundespraesidentschaftswahl.at/ergebnisse.html


(FPÖ/Center-right) Norbert Hofer 35.3%
(Greens) Van der Bellen 21.3%
(Liberals/ "Independent") Griss 18.9%
(cuckservative) Khol 11.2%
(SPÖ/Left wing) Hundstorfer 10.9%
(independent meme candidate) Lugner 2.4%

Previous threads:

>>71921164

>>71920338

>>71917519

>>71906767

>>71896691

Bottoms up, meine Volksgenossen!
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Make Austria great again
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Where will Griss and mainstream party voters lean in the final round?
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MAGA
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>>71927045
Make Austria Austrian again.

>>71927064
They will most likely go for the Greens.
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Godspeed, Austria.
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Somebody please give him a fucking Awoo-edit.
He deserves it.
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Austria election: Far right 'top' in first round of presidential vote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36124256
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>>71927138
I would love to be in the BBC News office right now. They must be so angry.
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at 37% will the Center Rights need to build a coalition? Who will they work with?
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>>71927064
>>71927091
ÖVP-voters might go Pro-Hofer, even through the Blacks (kek) are cucked, they are still conservatives
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Which party are we shilling for
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The fact that he will be facing the Greens is a good thing no?

There can't be that many retards that would vote for Greens so even the cucked ones will be forced to vote FPÖ?
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>>71927190
FPÖ / Hofer
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>>71927064
probably not voting at all
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So do Austrians actually know that the president can't do much and they actually need to vote in local elections to change or will they do the burger thing and wonder why nothing gets done even though they voted in the Presidential elections?
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>>71927190
FPÖ and the candidate is Hofer.

>>71927189
Depends on their commitment to cuckoldry.
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>>71927173
Presidential elections, not legislative. There's a second round with the top two candidates facing off next month.
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>>71927214

He's gonna be facing everyone probably.
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>>71927064
>>71927091

>Where will Griss and mainstream party voters lean in the final round?

The head of NEOS (who supported Griss) has directed all voters to go vote for the Green candidate.

The shilling is in full effect by the establishment.

Hopefully based King of Austria Norbert Hofer will reign true.
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>>71926896
I don't keep up with Austrian politics. Did the more red pilled party win?
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>>71927250

> American trying to teach Austrians about their own president

Thanks burger.
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>>71927250
Of course they know, they're not yanks. There were no other elections today.
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I had so much fun today on derstandard.at

But i am a bit disappointed that i was the fucking ONLY redpilled person between all those NoBorder cucks.

You really missed a lot of fun.
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>>71927318
They won the first round but they did not win outright so there will be a second round between the top two candidates.
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>>71926896
>Ashley please :^)
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>>71927340
i read a lot of it

but my boss and others know my account on standard and i'm too lazy to creat a new one

so cant reveal who i am
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everyone is aware he doesnt have too much power, but the sheer message this sends through austria is amazing.
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>>71927069
BELLEN IS A MESS
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>>71927340
what's your name on standard btw
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>>71927396
I'm so glad I'm British when it comes to political systems. I'm convinced we have the best election system in the world.
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>>71927411
Die soll sich nach Deutschland verpissen und sich mal gepflegt von 10 Afghanen wie ein Stück Fleisch rumreichen lassen.
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>>71926896
Why is Innsbruck and Tyrol in general full of green socialists?
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>>71927513
bildungsferneschicht
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>>71927411
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>>71927338
So the fire rises?
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>>71927443
Reminder that the PiS in Poland and Fidesz in Hungary also took over this way as well. First they won the ceremonial presidency, then got an outright majority in the parliaments. It signals a change in political nature.

>>71927546
Ours has a tendency towards moderates. So it is bad if you support parties like UKIP.
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So what now?

Schwarzies raus?
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>ORF-Radio Oe1 haben das einzig richtige gemacht: Direkt nach den 17.00 Uhr Wahlergebnisnachrichten haben sie Wolf Biermann, Joan Baez (We shall overcome ..) oder auch Pete Seeger gespielt ("Die Gedanken sind frei ...") - oder auch "Da Hofer war's" vom Wolferl Ambros ... war sicher nur Zufall, hat mich aber dazu bewogen "jetzt erst recht" zu sagen, wobei "recht" wahrscheinlich der falsche Ausdruck ist - ersetze ihn durch "richtig". Also alles daran zusetzen diesen Hofer und damit einen weiteren Rechtsruck zu verhindern. Also VdB vor!!!
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If only all the other countries knew that Hofer is an Aldi
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>>71927595
never


you are not
bildungsferneschicht

never
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>>71927565
it's VdB's political home
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>>71927546
If UKIP got 35% they'd have a majority here. But FPTP encourages people to vote tactically for the main two parties.
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Kennt jemand "Watschenbaum" auf youtube? (Stichwort Asylneger)

Gestern war er noch online, heute sind alle seine Videos auf privat...dafuq
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>>71927662
HOFER SAGT DER HAUSVERSTAND
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>>71927685
I was memeing my dude
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>>71926896
What are the greens like? Are they as cucked as our Green Party or are they more right wing?

Ours are environmental, left wing nut cases.
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>>71926896
Can I be Volksgenosse as well, greatest ally?
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>>71927595
>>71927685
lol fucking really? you are on pol?
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>>71927783
same here
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>>71927783
super cucked, not much environmentalism left. and they hate people with cars
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>>71927750
It was a travesty what happened to UKIP, tbph. Totally inexcusable. They got 14% of the vote and only one seat in parliament.
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Austria embraces anti-immigrant right-wing in presidential vote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/austria-norbert-hofer-presidential-vote/
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>>71927769
verdammt
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>>71927783
Stalinist hippie idiots.
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Please annex Bayern and Sachsen.
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>lefties now arguing that the higher educated people did not vote for hofer
>my entire family, friends and me have university degrees and voted hofer

i guess im still poorly educated.
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>>71927886
Green parties would be perfect if they only supported the environment instead of going full blown left supporting immigration and welfare.
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>>71927783
ours are in meltdown, cucked by foreign woman who knows nothing, left wingers who attack corbyn and will cease to exist in 2020
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>>71927783
all green parties are cucklords.
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>>71928064
Alles oder nichts! Hier werden keine halben Sachen gemacht!
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>>71928169

You can't run a country just by issuing idiotic decrees about nuclear power and carbon taxes.
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>>71928161
these statistics are rigged anway
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>>71928161
same here, guess I will always be a stupid pleb :^)
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>>71927261
What's the chance the other guy will win?
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>>71928161
You're probably STEM losers
People who have a *real* degree like liberal arts would all vote Griss, because she a woman candidate in the current year.
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>>71928161
Me and my family apparently too.

But i love how they grasp for air. It's beautiful.
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>>71928161
they say the same thing about Trump supporters
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>>71928193
>all "first world" green parties are cucklords
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It's extremely funny to look through Austrian Media and social media:

Facebook, Orf.at, Standard.at etc.: all the lefty and green voters are like "OMG, this is sooo wrong, the Nazis won! Bad Nazis" - but 5 minuts later they say "Hofer has no chance whatsoever in May, he can never win, everyone will just stay home and Van der Bellen will win."

The amount of loss of reality is soo big, it is frightening.

I am not saying Hofer is 100% sure to win on May 22, but I guess he has a good chance. It will be very close and he might just get 51%.
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>>71926896
The FPO won? Godspeed Austria
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>>71928336
it starts here
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>>71928161
>it's a 'conservative voters are illiterate, racist hicks' episode
Cry more, bitch niggas.
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>>71928234
all other parts of germany want to be cucked though. B, S, SA and maybe TH are the only exceptions I can see.
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>>71928293
He's got a 15% gap to cover, and greens are far left and not liked either.
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>>71926896
Reverse Anschluss when?
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Merkel reaction when?
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>>71928161
>>lefties now arguing that the higher educated people did not vote for hofer
>>my entire family, friends and me have university degrees and voted hofer
>i guess im still poorly educated.

Same here.

My mother has a Dr.- degree. I have one, my brother has one. My sister has a bachelor degree. My step-brother is a Dipl.-ing. His gf is a medical doctor.

All of us voted Hofer. But noooo, academics don't vote Hofer.... sure thing.

Of course, if someone asks me in public who I voted, I would have said Griss - if somebody finds out I voted Hofer, this could be social and employment suicide.
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>>71927513
I can't say my name.

I wrote a lot of comments to Syria and they thought i am a paid Putin-Troll. Now they ban me after ~10 posts.

I just managed to get a Proxy-Account for the past 2 days.
But i am sure that it will get deleted very soon.

I was very sucessful, i wrote ~20.000 comments in the past 9 years and i had a lots of followers.
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>>71928161
Who cares if anything that shows universities are totally out of touch with common people and reality. Cool that they are proud of being over educated idiots with no concept of how the world actually works. Only retards would be proud of that.
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>>71928452

> Anschluss

Germans should just secede, otherwise Jewmericans are gonna come bomb us.
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>>71928265
yeah to rule a country you must also embrace islam and feminism
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tippy toppy kek
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>>71928457
>Merkel to anschluss austria
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>>71928452
If anything we need to ausschluss Vienna. Schandfleck.
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>>71928519
Feigling
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>>71928577

I'm calling Putin for help as we speak.
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>>71928457
>merkel
>reaction
lmao, merkel is 100% autistic without any special talents. she has no idea what happened today or what the consequences might be.
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>>71928336
VdB is probably the best opponent for him, they couldn't be farther apart and a lot of people that would have voted the independent Griss, will probably go to Hofer just to stop VdB, pretty interesting election overall so far. I also like how basically all institutes making polls got BTFO and told hard, how could they be that wrong?
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>>71928533

Godspeed
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>>71928648
>you anti-european traitor. hurr durr.
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>>71928647

Fuck off, Vienna voted ok this time.
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>>71928533
noice
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>>71928624
I'm reading Mein Kampf right now and I swear it reads like Hitler moved here and wrote it just last summer.
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>>71928735

Meant for

>>71928624
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>>71928336
There is no way VdB could win.

The Khol and Hundsdorfer voters will never ever vote him. Add their 22% to Hofer and he is already >50%.
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>>71928703
or does she know exactly what she is doing?
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>>71928735
I'm talking about this:
>Of course, if someone asks me in public who I voted, I would have said Griss - if somebody finds out I voted Hofer, this could be social and employment suicide.
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there is no way the FPO will win the second round, right?
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>>71928768
The critic version or an online one?
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>>71928735
Which elections were you following? Vienna isn't blue.
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>>71928801
I'm not sure m8. If she's really only pretending to be retarded she's extremely good at this.
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>>71928899
I didn't spend shekels on that new one just to get indoctrinated, are you crazy? Haha nah a downloaded one.
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>>71928647

Did you actually read his post?
Look closely at the final sentence. Going public with your support for Hofer especially in an academic environment or corporation may cost you your job since Mr. Shekelstein will fire your ass if he finds out your political viewpounts are deviating too much from the lefty marxist norm.
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>>71928820

I didn't mean to reply to you. But in any case, it's common sense for anyone with a job to avoid public questionnaires about some topics, seeing as how SJW brigades literally have nothing else to do but destroy people's lives.

I only talk about politics to friends.
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>>71928876
Probably not. There is still a month to go until the run-off. It is not moral, but just hope for a big terrorist attack before the election.
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>>71928906

Hofer also did very good in Vienna, and you can't throw these kind of numbers away.
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>>71928820
are you stupid? It IS absolutely the case with that. Ask people in high earning fields who they voted, they either claim they abstained or voted left. But in reality people need to protect their jobs.
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>>71928711
I noticed people mentioning earlier that Griss would've been more difficult to beat during the second round. What's up with VdB, what has he done to make him the "best opponent" as you say? I haven't heard of the guy before, and I'm curious about how he's seen in Austria.
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>>71929063
this
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>>71929042
wait wait wait
a fucking month? between the first and second round? what the fuck?
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>>71927546
>9 million vote
>2 seats
>less than other parties who got jack shit
>best
Kill yourself
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>>71929273
May 22nd unless I am mistaken.
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Does all of this really matter though, other than that it shows people are slowly moving rightwards (way too late of course)?
The president won't change shit anyway...or am I wrong?
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>>71929237
He is a far leftist nutter so it is like running against a Communist.
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>>71929288
>>71927750
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>>71929042
The fact that you even have rounds is ridiculous >>71929303
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>>71928999
>>71929007
>>71929063
There's a difference between saying that you support Hofer when someone asks you about it and mentioning it whenever you have a chance and putting it into any online accounts you have.
If you know any cases where people got fired for the former, please post them along with a source.
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>>71929288
Florida says hi
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so is the winner good or bad from /pol/ pov?
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>>71926896
MAGA

meine freunde geht euren weg weiter. wir folgen nächstes jahr!

>stay on course, we follow next year
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>>71929450
Good
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>>71929450
Good
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>>71929450

Shoah-tier
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>>71929450
Good
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>>71927303

Didn't the Swiss vote "NO" on that one or am I wrong?
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>>71929308
no, but it's a great symbol that strengthens other european right-wing parties. now more and more scared sheeps will realise that it's ok to vote right-wing parties because many other people do it too.
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>>71929552
>>71929587
>>71929654
Will they be able to win in a 1v1? Or will it be like France again?
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>>71929421
its not about being fired, but about the impression it leaves on people. even if your boss were to be neutral, he would still prefer a left wing person when promoting someone, because its generally more accepted and simply ok. right wing is a no-go. you as an eployee represent the company, and obviously they need to keep in check what their employees show to the outside world.
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>>71929697
There was a follow up which got a no. Swiss can't get enough of foreign criminals :^)
I hope Austria is more based than the mountain jews.
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>>71929723
A win is possible
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tfw no Führer on the ballot
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>>71929371
>being sarcastic
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/24/austrian-far-right-wins-first-round-presidential-election-norbert-hofer
Austrian far-right party wins first round of presidential election

Cuck paper as always
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>>71929962
>no comments
Graniaud comments are always anal-pained lefties
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>>71929962
and so it begins... the great butthurt
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>>71929771

So let me get this straight: if you say you voted for Hofer, you get people giving you the stink eye and other bad shit? WTF I thought Western Europe was better than this...
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>>71930156
This is correct.
Although I suppose the sentiment will change if Hofer becomes president.
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>>71930147

And may the leftie butthurt be eternal...
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>>71930156
Depends where. In the UK voting UKIP as a uni student is like social suicide, but yet I can talk to my country-side aunt and uncle about it just fine as the country side is still racist as fuck.
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I for one welcome our new Nazi overlords.
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>>71930226

Why though? Is it "oh noes we don't want another Hitler!" or something else?
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>>71929308
It can also make parties start realizing that the people want limitations on refugees and would rather they stay in Turkey or their home country. If a leftist or centrist party was stronger against immigration they would sweep all their elections, just idiotic from their point of view and does more harm in the end.
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>>71930281
How kosher is the FPÖ though?
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I cant wait for your austrian tears when he loses the 1v1
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>>71927661
Cuck
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>>71926896
MAKE AUSTRIA HABSBURG AGAIN
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>>71930374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRUY1ikILCY

thread theme
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>>71930365
> Afd 10%, celebrating like ten naggische Neger.
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>>71930365
Why would you say this?
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>>71930365
>weebshit
no surprises
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>>71930471

Low energy.
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>>71927546
Kek'd and checked
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>>71929237
He used to be party leader of the greens until 2008 or so, he simply is such a great opponent because he is the polar opposite of Hofer, Griss ran independent with a small Budget and was voted because the people are fucking done with the regular parties, where do you think the Griss voters will go, to the guy that thinks TTIP, refugees and the status quo are good or will they go to that right wing guy, that also got voted because people are done with the regular parties.
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I'm confused, which one is the /pol/ candidate?
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Based Austriabros!Thank u for being uncucked!May some German cuture be preserved.
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>>71930560

HOFER KURWA
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>>71930560
Hofer
He's the only one against the influx of migrants
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>>71927546
Who cares? Westminster will be a mosque soon.
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>>71926896
WORLD WAR 3 WHEN?

Nothing like fucking some Fascists in the morning.
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>implying SPÖ/ÖVP won't continue to destroy the country for at least another 2 years
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>>71930426

How did they get this data?

Smells like a meme to me.
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>>71930426
Is this data from the same institutes that predicted a Van der Bellen victory?
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>>71930744
come and get us, Ranjeed.
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>>71930761
1200 people were asked over telephone, source: standard.at

it's ridiculous
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>>71927783
Green is always another word for Marxist.
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What the fuck is wrong with Austrian people?
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>>71926896
>mfw
I frequently go on holiday to Austria, beautiful landscapes and Austrians in the countryside are probably the most friendly people I ever met.
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>>71930426
Wie soll sowas überhaupt funktionieren? Es gibt ein Wahlgeheimnis.Wie wollen die wissen welchen Bildungsgrad die Wähler haben?
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>>71930426
>>71930761
>>71930815
>>71930960

Doesn't even have to be rigged :
The common people feel the fuck-ups from the government much more than educated wealthy people.
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Gonna really enjoy the tears of /pol/ with the run-off in May :')
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So second round all the anti-FPÖ forces will unite only to prevent our good friend Norbert being elected? Will that succeed?

Western European countries look awfully like liberal dictatorships concealed as pseudo-democracy nowadays.
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>>71930960
>standard.at
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>>71930970
they are all reptilians
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>>71930864
Round 3? Sure Ahmed.
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>>71930960

>1200 people were asked over telephone, source: standard.at

Tiny sample size.

So easy to fake.

And people gobble this shit up like its the truth?

Jesus.
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>>71927064
depends, some women just voted for Griss out of sympathy and don't wan't van der Bellen as president

>>71927094
Godspeed to you, too. For your journey out of the EU!
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>>71931166
people don't read into that they just share the image
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>>71931166
1200 is enough of a sample to get the margins of error down to ~3%, the problem is more in telephone polling, people will not admit to voting right-wing
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>>71929552
>>71929587
>>71929633
>>71929654
What's his platform ?
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>>71931201
>Youtuber
would be a great loss for Austria
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>>71930970
>tfw you realize the youngest in this line up is 64
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>>71931271
Why are you voting for Bashar al-Assad?
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>>71931201
>YouTuber und Kolumnist aus Wien.
You can't make this shit up
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Good luck based Austria
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>>71931166
>And people gobble this shit up like its the truth?
welcome to marxism
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>>71930761
>>71931003
Wahltagsbefragung. Also you could get pretty accurate results by comparing percentage of population with matura and election results for the different constituencies with a big enough sample size. Not sure why this method isn't used.

>>71930815
Again, these are results from surveys. The fact that the prediction was so far off only suggests that a lot of people lied in the surveys. Of course this might be the case for this statistic as well and it wouldn't surprise me if a big part of academics who voted for Hofer are not open about it.
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>>71930970
based Richi
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>>71931342

Can you fuck off outta this thread, shitskin?
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>>71931003
telefon/personen umfrage gleich nach der wahl.

Wie jede umfrage kann man einfach manipulieren.
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I don't know much about Austrian politics. Will it be easier to beat the Greenfag over this Griss person? Are y'all in a better position if you're up against the greenfag?
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>>71931229
Well meme'd my friend
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>>71931342
fun fact: Assad is more british than the average brit.
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>>71928921
Seems like the jews realized that Merkel is too incompetent to be their puppet so they dropped her hard and now she doesn't know what to do.
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>>71931255

I think the worst part is that when you tell them that a "poll" like that is easy to fake by omitting survey results or similar they will tell you that you are a tinfoil hat wearer and give moral authority to the Standard.

Absolutely terrifying that people like that can vote.

>>71931271

>3% margin of error

This is horrible.

>>71931395

>Not sure why this method isn't used.

It would ruin the shock value of "45% non-graduates". Because where will you find a jurisdiction that has lots of Hofer voters and lots of non-graduates. You're looking for somewhere with a bunch of 20 year olds who flunked out of high school and nothing else, because it would normalize the statistic too quickly.

>>71931387

I want off this ride.
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>>71927340
ive been shadowbanned and can only upvote, not comment lel
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>>71927411
>Ashley
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>>71931505
The Greens all fucking smoke
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What was the voter turnout?
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>>71931166
You clearly don't understand statistics you fucking retard. 1200 is a very standard sample size. Since you don't understand statistics, allow me to explain:

You want to be 99% sure that some percentage of the entire Austrian population (8,500,000, a much higher population size to prove even more how much of a dumbass you are) has an opinion within +/- 4% (for example if you poll that 49% of the Austrian population has an opinion, you can be 99% sure that your polled answer is within +/- 4% of the real answer).
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>>71931654
But the stuff they smoke sure doesn't come in packs.
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>>71927250
Local elections? Who gives a fuck about who your mayor is. If Trump gets elected the Republicans will have total control of the federal government.
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>>71931166
If those people were picked randomly, 1200 is more than enough for statistic significance.
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>>71931342
it kinda looks like him tho
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>>71931575
>This is horrible.
Unfortunately the error on a standardised poll follows a square root distribution, as in you need to quadruple the sample size to halve the error. Thus to get a 1% error you need a sample of almost 10,000, which pollsters say is too expensive to do.
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>>71931575
>and give moral authority to the Standard.
the worst part is that they don't even realize that every newspaper just wants to get stuff like this out in the open as quickly as possible with the least effort. Days like today are where they make money
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>>71931662
68%

quite high, I would have thought less people would go.
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ITALIAN TANKS FORCING THROUGH THE BORDER RIGHT NOW
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>>71931949
>tfw those tanks are going in reverse
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>>71931949

Awesome, about time we took our clay back thanks for the reminder.
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>>71928533
dubs approve
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>>71930156
It's just the righties being paranoid.
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>>71931658
oh how i would smash that button
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>>71931791
>expensive to do.

yeah it would cut in to much on their profit.

Today with the internet you could poll 10k people without much effort.
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>>71930970
from left to right:
pic related
is a vampire
is a child of war times
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Perhaps an Austrian can answer me questions.
>>71932001
>>71932001
The anti-immigration Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ/FPOe) has won the Austrian presidential election first round with 36.7% of the vote.

The opinion polls, pic related, were WAY off. Suspicious?

The FPOe's leader is one Norbert Hofer.
The Greens, lead by Alexander van der Bellen, came second with 19.7%.
Independent candidate Irmgard Griss, a former judge, got 18.8%.
Because no one candidate got over 50% of the vote, a second round will be held on May 22, between Hofer and either Griss or Van der Bellen.

Austria has been ruled by the Social Democrats (SPOe) or the People's party (OeVP) since 1949, but their candidates, Rudolf Hundstorfer (SPOe) and Andreas Kohl (OeVP) came joint fourth with just 11.2% each. So the two main parties got totally BTFO.

The president doesn't have much, if any, executive power (though he can dismiss governments, and Hofer has said he will do just that as President if the migrant invasion doesn't stop), but the result does show that a hefty sum of Austrians are leaning to the right.

The current president is Heinz Fischer, who is officially an independent, but who only became independent as a ceremonial courtesy upon entering office, it seems. Prior to that he was with the SPOe. Is is normal for the President to become independent on entering office?

>>71932001
>>71932001
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>>71931698

>filling it up with ad homs
>showing me a screenshot of some program

Links to sources.

Links to math equations.

Links to the data showing that a "confidence level of 99% produces a +/- of 4% at 1000 sample size".

And still.

1200 is much too small a sample size, and as other people said Austrians will be lying in these telephone surveys which skew the data and throw your nonsense out the window.

1200 is a very small part of the population, extremely small.

>>71931738

>If those people were picked randomly

doubt it.

>>71931791

>which pollsters say is too expensive to do.

of course, it harms their faked results.

A poll of 10,000 people is something I would bother looking at in the light of 8.5 mn general population.

1.2/8500 is simply too small.

>>71931815

>Days like today are where they make money

One of the few days for printed papers, I suppose.
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>>71931575
>It would ruin the shock value of "45% non-graduates". Because where will you find a jurisdiction that has lots of Hofer voters and lots of non-graduates. You're looking for somewhere with a bunch of 20 year olds who flunked out of high school and nothing else, because it would normalize the statistic too quickly.
you don't need extreme cases for this to work. Tiny variances in the level of education and the election results are enough to calculate the effects of this parameter as long as your sample size is big enough. Simple statistics.
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>>71932045
>mfw living in your clay
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>>71931166
holy shit, what the fuck.

this is all over facebook
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>>71931949
bring it on :-DD
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>>71932139
i love that if you search for "Andreas Khol", Gollum shows up two times.

(VdB also btw.)
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>>71932139
you got a lot of porn open in that 2nd browser son
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>>71931003
PROPAGANDA
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Congrats guys

Make Austria great again
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>>71931698
I assume the confidence level has to depend on the number of possible answers as well, here we have 5x6 which is rather high amount of answers.

If you had 1000 possible answers would asking 1000 people be enough as well?
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slightly improved

im wondering if i should post it on facebook
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Here's a list of media which is butthurt also "Gruner" belongs to Bertelsmann which belongs is associated with Friede Springer (Axel Springer Verlag AG) who's best friends with Angela Merkel
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>>71932148

the buttblasted lefties say the media manipulated it so lefties relax and don't vote im forever kek ing
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>>71931949
Worst ally
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>>71930970
I wanted to make fun of polish politicians but then I saw her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-us6TePAhmo

based poland
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>>71932148
>Is is normal for the President to become independent on entering office?
No. Here's the list: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Bundespr%C3%A4sidenten_der_Republik_%C3%96sterreich#Bundespr.C3.A4sidenten
Apart from Eyebrow Master the only independent president was Rudolf Kirchschläger (1974-1986)
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>>71932412
people who visit indoctrination facilities change their voting behavior
color me surprised
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>>71932450
>kikebook
Not yet, keep powerlevel down
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>>71931294
>http://www.fpoe.at/fileadmin/user_upload/www.fpoe.at/dokumente/2015/2011_graz_parteiprogramm_englisch_web.pdf
this, he's one of the responsibles
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>>71931003
Same shit by any election, where right-conservatives are winning.
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>>71932479
>mass media manipulates in favor of the right

well they are now grasping straws.
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>>71932536
>Eyebrow Master
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>>71932504
FASCIST REGIMES WON'T BE TOLERATED IN EUROPE

PREPARE TO EMBRACE DEMOCRACY
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>>71932598
well i could always say - i dislike trump, he is an idiot, just like hofer!

they'd never guess my true power level, i'm known as a very liberal and "intelligent" guy
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>>71932479
haha, I wish the media would report fairly for a change, can you imagine how much they would bitch and moan if the media stopped treating the left like raw eggs?
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>>71932412
>I assume the confidence level has to depend on the number of possible answers as well
Yes, especially when dealing with confidence intervals you need to be careful about multiple sampling problems.
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>>71932210
>1200 is much too small a sample size, and as other people said Austrians will be lying in these telephone surveys which skew the data and throw your nonsense out the window.
>1200 is a very small part of the population, extremely small.

So you're just admitting to wanting to be a retard? Okay dude, whatever.

>>71932412
I used a simple example for a simple person. He's clearly a retarded and he just admitted he's okay with being a retard, you think he's going to understand multivariate tests vs binary choices, ranked sums tests for non-normal data, or correcting for multiple comparisons? Yeah, I don't think so.
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>>71930744
fuck off anglo
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>>71932796

"Look at this travesty!"

"We have our own Trump now #feelsbad!"

Should be enough to hide your power level on jewbook.
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>>71933021
exactly

but only after they cried me a river
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>>71932796
If your plan is to create a relation between Hofer and Trump for Normies, and give the Griss Voter more intention to vote the Dutch guy, go on.

If you like to see Hofer as President, keep that picture out of normie spaces, and treat it as internal Propaganda.
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>>71931949
>British help coming after you've got your arse kicked
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>>71932998
I love these Anglo-Aryan memes.
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>>71931432
I can work better with the "greenfag" as an opponent, you can pull women better away from him than from Griss.
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>>71933122
good point
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>>71932917

If you want to make a point to me you will have to use less name calling.

>Links to sources.

>Links to math equations.

>Links to the data showing that a "confidence level of 99% produces a +/- of 4% at 1000 sample size".

As I said previously, 1.2/8500 is too small to hold any significance.

Now at least bother to properly discuss and sway my opinion with facts or continue your name calling, I don't care but try to be civil.
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>>71931201

Vielen dank! Show the cucks hell.
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I wish more of you Austro shitlords were on twitter...the libfags literally have a monopoly there.
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>>71933333

>dem quints
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>>71933333
Does Austria have a tendency to arrest rightwing twitter posters?
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>>71933413
Not yet.
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>>71933333

>quints

WASTED

Twitter censors wrongthink.

>>71933413

Fully possible.
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>>71933333
>post "Naja der Sieg von Hofer freut mich schon"
>get vanned by BVT and your car lit on fire by antifas
No thanks
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>>71933333
cant tweet

i work in a foreign representation, i'd immediately lose my job

i'm already borderline right wing / reflective left on twitter and it has caused me trouble
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>>71932796
I don't think it's a good idea to say negative things about the guy you want to win. And comparing him to Trump doesn't sound like a good idea either. I've recently noticed that some of my acquaintances who don't normally even follow politics at all have suddenly gained these strong negative opinions about Trump, simply because they hear so much trashtalk about him in the media.
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>>71933311
Why argue with a retard? You clearly have zero statistics background, otherwise you wouldn't be saying even half the shit you're saying right now. You can't even lie and say you do because if you did, you'd understand why you're so retarded.

Like you're so retarded you can't even see how retarded you are. Why argue with this?
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>>71933333
oh let them be in their safe space, it's so much more fun when reality comes knocking on the door, just look at their legendary butthurt, also sick quints
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>>71933311
http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/Dept/People/djsteaching/S1B-16-05-confidence-intervals-4.pdf
Example 5.5
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HAVENT BEEN AS PROUD OF MY COUNTRY AS I AM TODAY IN A LONG TIME

GODSPEED


HOFER IS LOVE, HOFER IS LIFE
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>>71926896

Please let Green win the second round
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>>71933333
Because we know better than to waste so much time on social media. I'd like to keep my thoughts to myself mostly instead of some SJW screaming bloody murder into my ear on social media.

Also, checked those quints.
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>>71933660
HOFER IS GOING TO MAGA
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Bekijk de Tweet van @geertwilderspvv: https://twitter.com/geertwilderspvv/status/724267481079111681?s=09
Our guy supports all of our extended family. Hope you all have a fun night in Austria. What are you drinking to celebrate?
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>>71933709
Fuck off to your echochamber
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>>71933333
Same in the UK, it was a left wing hugbox, which is why it melted down when the tories won our election
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>>71929450
>>71929450
Wall-tier.
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>>71933333
gotta love liberal tears

also nice dubs
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>>71931407
cant handle the bants?
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>>71933506

You're either:

a jewish shill who wants to defend the "results" of that poll posted earlier.

someone who cannot interact with other people.

>You clearly have zero statistics background

Thank you for telling me something I already knew. Just amazing. Mind changing that at all or will you keep yelling names?

Good grief you Amerilards are insufferable sometimes.

>>71933584

So the source for the statistical confidence is the result of standardized math equation.

Now convince me that the leftist agenda pushing newspaper would actually play according to the rules of that math.
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>>71933905
>Shitposting Paki
Fuck off.
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>>71933497
That's good. Trump reels people into politics. Next step: all white people become nazis.
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>>71933496
You could use an anonymous account, not with your own name. But I can only go there for short periods of time anyway..I get too triggered.

>>71933540
quints? wtf is that?? oh I get it now lol.
Yeah you're right, but still they need to be trolled more... the american alt-right on twitter is yuuuge and I love it.
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>>71933993
This kek is an outlier, friendo
Don`t believe jewish lies
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>>71933244

For normies and lefts I would try to spread stuff like pic related.

Create bad memes for there main propaganda narrative against right wings and go after em with other accounts, calling them hypocrites and "relativierer".
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i love Lugners english.

Lugner for president!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz-MB5HJrak
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>>71933993
>So the source for the statistical confidence is the result of standardized math equation.
Yes, statisticians worked this stuff out between about 1920 and 1970 or so.
>Now convince me that the leftist agenda pushing newspaper would actually play according to the rules of that math.
Well that's a matter of non-mathematical stuff like making sure your sample of 1.2k people is truly random from the population of voters, how you frame the question, hell even asking via telephone vs internet can cause differences in result as people are more candid over the internet.
But yes a sample of 1000 people, that is taken properly and randomly, is enough for a 3% margin of error, at least in the mathematics underlying it. The maths side of statistics is impossible to fiddle, the fiddling comes from the other side.
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>>71933333

Checked for excellency.

You are not alone, but you are right that the austrian right wing twitter army is small, but they rae getting better with the day.

You need to hijack more hashtags with /pol/ stuff ;^)
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>>71934306
You have a lot more patience than I have, britfriend. You know his next post is just going to be something like "muh cultural marxism" and claim the poll is bogus anyway.

He started with his conclusion and he's grasping at shit to rationalize it.
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>>71928336
It's extrelemy funny to look through German man who looks through Austrian Media
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Great now give me a job.
If I get citizenship I will vote for the right.
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>>71928298
Kek
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>>71934007
But I'm talking about people who do not follow politics, or do any independent research. They simply hear that Trump's a horrible person who will ruin the world, and since the newspaper or the TV says so, they think it must be true. This is a terrible phenomenon. It results in politicians forming coalitions to block right-wing parties from governments, or people voting for any awful candidate instead of a right-wing guy who has decent political stances.
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>>71934540
Understanding of statistics is woeful, I wish we taught the basics in schools.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3I6hcuzMVY
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>>71934306

>Well that's a matter of non-mathematical stuff

Our "friend" previously was framing the situation to be purely of mathematical errors, while entirely sidelining the fact that the survey can be completely fudged.

>that is taken properly and randomly

Not happening here with leftist newspaper.

>>71934540

Your strawman fallacy is horrible.

Just stop.
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>>71934408
>>71934408
>>71934408
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The Reich rises?
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>>71933333
>I wish more of you Austro shitlords were on twitter...the libfags literally have a monopoly there.
I suppose I could make one, but we need good hashtags.
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>>71934480
Yeah. It's funny when they threaten you to call the cops over some hate meme haha.
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>>71934306
>But yes a sample of 1000 people, that is taken properly and randomly, is enough for a 3% margin of error, at least in the mathematics underlying it. The maths side of statistics is impossible to fiddle, the fiddling comes from the other side.

yes that would be the case if they would ask just a question for what they voted, but if they split it down by education you get sskewed results.

If we just just go by the general distribution of education in Austria, of the 1200 people only 360 people have higher education.
From my pov thats not really representative.

Its good enough when you want to ask what the voted for, but not when you split it down into different categories.

Imo if they want to make such a poll they would have to call 1000 people with each of the selected education brackets.
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Don't attack us this time germans, don't make mistakes, let's help each other
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>>71935225
This is a good point, I hadn't noticed that his question was about the poll being split into education brackets.
In that case the error could be massive and it's really irresponsible to publish the results. They should do separate polls for each bracket yes.
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>>71935246

Nowadays all the nazi nutters are crazy for putins cock anyway

Suppose they have to since they hate the eu so much.
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Austria can't win unless they leave the Communist EU.
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>>71935378
well its as you say, the math is sound, the things surrounding it are not.
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>>71935378

Now that you've seen why I reacted so negatively to the sample size, you will agree that it is simply too small.

I see the kike shill hasn't bothered rearing his head in here.
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>>71935623
I said before, I don't argue with retards. I also went to go get chinese food. Maybe your life revolves around /pol/ but mine doesn't.
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>>71932790
so....when are you attavking turkey?
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>>71926896
>>71926896
Danke Ostmark, du hast meinen Glauben an die germanischen Völker wiederhergestellt!
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