>Elizabeth Parrish, CEO of Bioviva USA Inc. has become the first human being to be successfully rejuvenated by gene therapy, after her own company’s experimental therapies reversed 20 years of normal telomere shortening.
It's happening. Hope christcucks won't ruin this and make it illegal. We're on our way to immortality.
link?
>>71723215
>Elizabeth Parrish, CEO of Bioviva USA Inc. has become the first human being to be successfully rejuvenated by gene therapy, after her own company’s experimental therapies reversed 20 years of normal telomere shortening.
http://bioviva-science.com/2016/04/21/first-gene-therapy-successful-against-human-aging/
>>71722974
Fuck yes, I want it.
>>71723215
The only link I see is Bioviva's own website.
>>71722974
>we
You mean our corporate and political overlords.
would you live forever? or would you choose to die a normal mans death?
I think even with these life extending techs, humans will still choose death at some point.
>>71723263
>bioviva is the source to tell us bioviva ceo has managed to rejuvenate 20 years using a bioviva product
lel ok sure
>>71723348
having the choice is enough for me
>>>/sci/8022222
>>71723348
I'd rather live forever
>inb4 a cuck argues "NO! we can't have Americans and Europeans overpopulating, think of the starving niggers!"
Great, extreme overpopulation because normals can't stop fucking and will ruin it for everyone.
This procedure should only be allowed with a mandatory sterilization.
>we
We sure are, goyim.
>>71723521
I think it will be slightly funny when she gets cancer that makes her look like a resident evil villain.
>rich boomers become immortal
>wont give up their jobs to millenials
>>71723367
This, if any of you actually belive this you are fucking retarded. The only current way to reverse the affets of aging is parabiosis and that is unethical on a lot of levels.
>>71722974
Life is already too long. Who the fuck would want to live forever?
oh my god....
imagine >>71723720
the current statusquo for all time lol
>>71722974
Immortality distorts the natural order of things. To live is to die. Extending your lifespan is fine, but to actually desire immortality signifies immaturity and selfishness. There are a finite amount of resources available to living creatures on this planet. This reminds me of Elysium and the super rich having access to wonder-drugs/medical machines that extend their lifespan while the average Joe lives in squalor and famine.
Please not in my lifetime...
>putting up with the bullshit of everyday life for the rest of eternity
No thanks
>>71722974
Far as I know theres a way to add some 15 years to life expectancy without gene therapy, and a fairly common way of reverting aging already exists.
>>71723815
>Immortality distorts the natural order of things
Which is good. Fuck the natural order.
>but to actually desire immortality signifies immaturity and selfishness
I'm OK with being immortal even when someone like you might think that I'm immature or selfish.
>This reminds me of Elysium and the super rich having access to wonder-drugs/medical machines that extend their lifespan while the average Joe lives in squalor and famine.
Most technologies cost a lot at first, and then became widely available as competition and development further increased.
>>71723367
>In March 2016, the same tests were taken again by SpectraCell revealed that her telomeres had lengthened by approximately 20 years, from 6.71kb to 7.33kb. This implies that Parrish’s white blood cells (leukocytes) have become biologically younger. These findings were independently verified by the Brussels-based non-profit HEALES (HEalthy Life Extension Company), and the Biogerontology Research Foundation, a UK-based charity committed to combating age-related diseases.
>>71723816
I only want to live to see an exoplanet up close.
>>71724220
Daily reminder that life is hell and death is only escape. Only masochists would like to live forever.
>>71723263
I love how science articles never list a publication date anymore.
>>71723729
Bleach enemas are also effective family.
>>71723870
How?
>>71724570
this
>corinthians 4:4
>satan rules the physical world
>>71722974
HAHAHA
AND YOU FUCKS THOUGHT THE RIDE WOULD END WITH THE DEATH OF SOROS
NOW HE WILL NEVER DIE
SOMEONE GET ME OFF PLEASE
>>71724912
*evil cackling*
>>71723815
>Immortality distorts the natural order of things. To live is to die.
http://immortal-jellyfish.com/
this guy called
>>71724958
>>71722974
>it's not a scam
>please pay us $200,000 :^)
>>71722974
sounds like marketing bs to get more investment money
>>71724912
It may protect against diseases related with aging. Telemore shortening is only part of aging process.
You age even before telemore is used up.
Soros is a reptilian they don't age.
>>71724912
If an immortality drug turned everyone into living skeletons after enough time that'd be pretty dope desu. Like living in some high fantasy metal album cover. Who honestly wouldn't want to be an immortal skeleton beyond mortal comprehension?
>>71724912
soros reversed in aging while you get older and die a poor fag feels bad man
I don't think this will work.
There's going to be complications down the line I'm sure.
I'd personally wouldn't want to extend my life. This experience is overrated and that is coming from a guy who is neither depressed nor suicidal.
>>71725122
Would this work best if starting young or with a DNA sample from one's youth? My understanding, which is very shallow, is that once a telomere is shortened, there is data loss. If there is no DNA from one's youth, the lost data can't be recovered, only replaced with a guess.
>>71724906
Not only is this a christcuck argument (so it automatically makes it wrong), but it also fails as a christcuck argument. If you have actually read the Bible, it clearly says that when Jesus returns, he will rule the Earth for a thousand years with those who were accepted to the Kingdom of Heaven. Only after this thousand year rule will he bring everyone to the Kingdom of Heaven, where it was alleged that suffering and time as we know it would no longer exist, and the Kingdom of Heaven will exist for an eternity.
It's amazing how so many Christcucks know the Bible worse than an atheist.
I worked for her she's a fraud, it not gene therapy it's baby transfusions.
>>71725489
>he doesnt know jesus and the bible are an analogy for consciousness and creation, full of scientific fact covered in parable to avoid persecution
You religious plebs are honestly fucking disgusting. People were persecuted for thousands of years trying to preserve the knowledge and wisdom of ancient teachings (gnosis), then some bastards stole the religion out from under you and you idiots fell for the "bible is literal" meme
Just the worst people, you fucking idiots
>>71723815
And i bet you still visit a doctor if you get some sort of illness and use drugs
>>71724799
Various ways. The rich and famous under go a 30k blood cleansing and collagen injection treatment, which is why people like maddona look 30 years old.
Lowering meat intake while increasing antioxidant and collagen intake will almost always get you up to a steady 90/85 year life expectancy. Decreasing sugar, egg and flour derivate intake, and making slight alterations in diet like changing your milk from dairy to almond or coconut milk, replacing white wih brown rice, and followin the already well established nutritional rate tables out there, applied to your weight and physical activity, will almost certainly increase your life expectancy.
Do not remain seated for longer than 4 hours, as it affecta metabolism in an undesirable way in the long run.
No tobacco and other addictive consumables, obviously, and exercise help too. You might think some of these things are what any regular old nutritionist will tell you to do, but from what my own studies conclude, they are right. Vegans have high life expectancy not because they eat no meat, but because they eat less of it. Meat products have heavy metal poisonings due to the meat industry occupying the same spaces as other industrial complexes, so eat local, 4 meat meals a week, sometimes more, sometimes less.
Sugar is horrid for your long term health.
Reduce phthalene intake, look it up, its important.
>>71725466
Telemore is used to prevent loss of information. You still age before Telemores are used up. I have no idea if they can repair DNA.
>>71722974
Immortality ? No not yet
Looking good until you die? Fuck yes, I take it!
>>71722974
Common pleb will never see this.
>>71722974
The only way to find out if this works is to see what she looks like at 80. For now I call bull shit.
Much like that company Theranosa that is stone walling the FDA
This is great. Here are some thoughts on how to have biological immortality be socially feasible:
>1.a) Close our borders. There is no need to constantly increase our population with external populations if the mortality/pensionist rates are extremely reduced.
>1.b)Minimize or eliminate the welfare state. There is no need to keep spending half of the government money into pensionists since everyone will be able to work.
>2.a) Enforce nationwide revertable-sterilization for those that choose to undergo this therapy. The reason is that we can't have our population exponentially increasing in number year after year, not until we figure out a solution to this problem.
>2.b) Figure out solutions to overpopulation that still allow us to have kids. Something like being able to produce more resources with less space or being able to colonize new spaces.
>3) Implement a system where you are expected to work for around 50 years and then take a break to do whatever you want for another 50 years. This way we keep the natural order of things going and people can change their careers and learn a completely new field in the future. Who wants to be biologically immortal and be a lawyer forever? Maybe you want to take a break and decide to become a chef or something later.
It can't happen in the current society though. That would be a complete disaster.
>>71725466
It's not really a loss of any useful information. Actually, our bodies already are capable of making telomeres longer, but it can lead to immortal cells and cancer. See here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomerase_reverse_transcriptase
>>71722974
>>71722974
>Shitty politicians will be able to live two lifetimes while your normal citizen won't be able to afford such luxuries
Yay?
>You might live to explore the galaxy after all
>>71723815
Immature
Selfish
Manchild
You sound like the eternal vagina holding back men and science everywhere.
>>71722974
if it was really happening now we wouldnt know about it, ever, or maybe in like a century
retard
>We're on our way to immortality.
You're on a fast train to nowhere, bud. This is for the 13 families only, the 1% of the 1%. They will never make this public.
>>71722974
>immortality
>implying i want to be stuck with you people for ever
yeah,no
>>71724220
Spotted the soilipsistic satanist. This what decades of brainwashin by Le Bill Science Guy and Neil Degrassi Tyrone does.
>>71726328
You are a fucking retard. Vegans are some of the most diseased members of any population and they do not have a higher life expectancy. Their sperm quality is horrible and they have elevated levels of oxidised PUFA in their bodies which makes them more predisposed to cancer. Your "study" is bullshit and you just want to be a new age faggot blogger. Well your blog is gay and you couldn't be more wrong.
>>71722974
Totally a legit site.
>>71726328
>which is why people like maddona look 30 years old.
are you trolling
>>71723616
>Great, extreme overpopulation
>because normals can't stop fucking and will ruin it for everyone.
Normals (white) don't want children. No one gives a fuck about niggers.
>>71728758
Stop being dishonest, you understand what I'm saying, even if she isnt the best example.
>>71728729
Where did I say they werent Trudeau fellating leafman. If you readsomething rather than stay in your cozy /pol/ echo chamber you would realize that despite being afflicted with muscular atrophies, anemia, neurological damages and lower ATP production, their life expectancy is in fact higher due to higher intake of vegetable products. High meat consumption is linked with heavy metal contamination, lack of nutritional range and higher weight, the correct equilibrium for meat consumption is closer to being vegan than being greasy steak every day tier. I never said veganism was healthy you fucking gook lover, go back to getting impaled by Ling's 2 inch cock.
>>71723348
If you live forever, you have to work forever.
I'll pass
>>71723815
I will die as soon as 4chin becomes defunct and not a minute before.
>>71723348
I want to see the crash between Milky Way and Androneda.
That should tell you how much I want to live.
How do you quantify 20 years of reverse aging anyway?
Gonna call preemptive bullshit on this one, sounds like some dumb cunt publicizing for her own crap company.
>>71723815
>ate up the political message of Elysium which was a liberal's direct comparison to present day immigration and healthcare, but blown the fuck out into absurdism
Hope you enjoyed your kike special, goy
>>71722974
oh boy immortal Soros incoming
>>71730353
>If you live forever, you have to work forever.
Completely pathetic way of thinking. You can build a business and get to where you're financially secure without having to work within a few years if you're successful. Living longer just increases your chances of that, so long as you drop the wage-slave mentality.
>>71725728
I would willingly suck the life from a baby like a capri-sun if it were possible.
>>71727197
Wrong priorities pleb
hah, just saw this >>71727311
Plebs always jump to try and emulate what they know will be the play thing of the rich.
These things often trickle down into the market finding their form in a debased approximation.
> France is what is wrong with Europe, in more ways than one.
>>71730693
Probably is, but the technology is coming along just fine.
Of course, dont expect to be able to afford it.
>>71730769
That's just having other people do the work for you. You could also be a welfare leech and get by the same way.
>>71723315
>>71723633
>>71723720
>>71723772
>>71728167
>>71728553
This
Immortality is the bane of humanity and the death of progress
Eternal stagnation is all that will come from this.
>>71730962
Feel free to die then. :^)
>>71722974
Liz Parrish is a sexy transhumanfu.
>>71730937
>That's just having other people do the work for you.
But you'd be paying them. And how is that the same as having to work yourself?
>You could also be a welfare leech and get by the same way.
Except then you'd be a mooching piece of shit and dirt-poor to boot. Do you have absolutely zero ambition or what?
>>71730962
What if instead of nobel prizes, immortality was optionally offered to the world's brightest, and kept from the 1% corporate elite.. somehow?
>>71728449
Fuck off Ahmed
>>71723815
Than kill yourself and make room for us faggit. I'm colonizing space.
>>71722974
>/pol/ actually wants this
This would make life pretty shitty from every angle I look at it.
Also, telomere shortening is not the only thing that kills/ages you.
>>71731108
>But you'd be paying them.
With the wealth they created by working for you, after you take your cut.
>>71730769
Yes. one day you might be able to become a immortal parasite, the american dream.
what the fuck is "rejuvenated"
>>71731121
Do you honestly see that happening?
>>71731210
>With the wealth they created by working for you, after you take your cut.
What exactly is your problem with owning a business?
>>71731387
>being a self-made business owner is the same as being a parasite
What the fuck am I reading here.
>>71722974
>>71723348
I don't know if i want to live forever, but i want the gun aimed at the back of my head called TIME to go
Then we'll just have to see how it goes
>>71731646
No.. unfortunately
Probably better to keep that technology burried. I would like to extend my own lifespan but doubt it will happen.
>>71731487
>http://bioviva-science.com/2016/04/21/first-gene-therapy-successful-against-human-aging/
Longer telomeres, which are the caps on the ends of strands of DNA. The more they divide, the shorter the telomeres get. Longer telomeres are younger than shorter, which is how you can get such accurate age from a blood sample.
Right guys? That's what I get from reading the article.
>get rejuvenated
>mosquito bites me
>mosquito rejuvenated
>bites everyone else
>we're all rejuvenated for free
Does this work?
>>71731177
Potato nigger. This is just the beginning of a whole suite of anti aging therapies.
>>71731806
Same desu senpai.
>>71731646
It already is happening.
>magic johnson
>rich as fuck
>gets AIDS
>still fucking alive
Or
>pro has [insert medical problem]
>flies to red cross and gets stem cell treatment
>back on the field before halftime
Poor folk don't get any of this.
Sadly I'm poor and old. But I'd probably do some pretty dramatic things to be biologically 20 again.
>"The period from 2016 to 2271 is left blank, care to explain?"
>>71725900
"it's just an analogy bro!"
jezus was an analogy for the spirit of memes, discuss
>>71731806
No you only don't want to live forever because you don't want to put up with the inevitable decline that is aging.
The average American's "retirement plan" is going to be in lead, not gold. We can't afford treatment and don't want to be in excruciating pain, so we move to Oregon and take the pill.
But a 20 year old body. . .forever? As someone who is absolutely getting older, I can tell you that's pretty fucking attractive.
>time to read "to sail beyond the sunset" again
>i woke up in bed with a man and a cat. the man was a stranger; the cat was not
>>71731952
No. The mosquito doesnt inject blood, and even if it did, it would have to be compatible, and even then, it wouldnt be enough.
Blood cleansing and transfusion is a popular way for the rich to mantain youthfull look, which is why there are so many young looking ones.
Its a yearly 30k procedure tha is basically a near total blood transfusion from younger donors, mixed with intravenous collagen and antioxidant injections.
>>71723263
this is ridiculous, there is nothing remotely scientific in this article
>>71726328
>tfw been altering vegan days
Seems I have been right along. All hail fence sitting. What about the consumption of fruits? Heard certain fruits are actually kind of shit for you. Your thoughts?
Haha, it's not for you, silly! It's for me and my friends! Maybe we'll pass it your way in 50 years!
So now George Soros can live forever?
>>71722974
altho, if this is really happening the implications are wide.
first and most importantly for you guys, western country will not have to bring third worlders to keep population growth.
you'll have your white utopia
>>71722974
>feel when it will take so long to push through to the masses that you will be so old and decrepit that you won't want your body to become immortal any more
>>71722974
>Parrish says on JewTube she stated the company with some private donations from out of the US
>yfw the Jews bought immortality
>>71722974
telomere shortening is NOT an issue
no human ever died from telomere shortening
they are supposed to shorten and in those cells where they are not supposed to shorten the human already has enzymes that lengthen them
all you will achieve from randomly lengthening telomeres is give yourself cancer
>>71732392
I guess it depends on how the rejuvenation works. If it works like an infection, of course the mosquito now has an altered lifespan. If that can somehow be passed then potentially everything that can be bitten by a mosquito (including mosquitos themselves) now live n times longer.
>THE SWARM
oh dear.
>>71723348
Definitely would. I have enough movies/vidya/places to explore I could stay occupied for centuries.
>>71732581
this
>>71722974
George Soros must be so happy right now.
>>71724745
Fucking kek!!
>>71729684
Nice memes Barb. The increase in life expectancy is due to caloric reduction not vegetable products. In fact vegetable products might be causing the diseased state in vegans and vegetarians. You really don't know what you are talking about but I don't expect much more from a nigger.
>>71722974
Oh god it's fucking happening. This is the Golden age of humanity.
>>71723815
I am super rich
Fuck y'all poor mortalfags, eternal bliss awaits
>>71724570
Lol, sucks to be you
Eternal fresh pussy is fine by me
>>71730353
Fucking so? I also get to goddamn live forever you lazy piece of shit. Who gives a fuck about anything if you're immortal?
>>71732502
Fruits and seeds with high ammounts of PUFA are horrible. Dried fruits have high ammounts of them, which is why they are so caloric.
The best diet is an informed diet. The nutrition rates of human beings for all nutrients and minerals is well established, even if you have to do a bit of digging to find them.
More vegetable consumption, less meat consumption, avoid soy and corn, careful with cooking oils (the ones with less unsaturated fats have higher saturated fats aka coconut, beef and butter) The best is to use olive oil, as it has a balance of both fatty acids.
>>Sudden advances in the year 2016 make immortality and interstellar travel a possibility within a decade.
>> the life I dreamed of as a kid, expanding humanity across the stars is going to happen within my lifetime after all...
TFW got a vasectomy last year, so my seed is not the foundation of one of the great intergalactic ruling families.
>>71726328
This shit only costs US$ 30 (thirty) K??
Sauce plz?
>>71732195
kek
>>71733386
A vasectomy can be reversed.
Who ready for age of Colonization 2: SPace boogaloo?
I'm not scared of sudden death yet I shit bricks when I imagine myself old as fuck and conscious while dying
Wish I could get immortal tbqh
>>71723815
The natural order of things would be us to die at the age of 30 by some shitty disease we can treat now with vaccines and medicine, if you truly believe in natural order you would be taking any medicine u cunt
>>71730818
same
can you imagine the security costs of having a child? everyone would be trying to get their hands on one. and it wouldnt even be like pedosex, it'd be completely normal for deathbed jerks to try sneaking into the maternity ward for another 80 years. but who can really argue against it? I mean a baby has literally no value. an 80yo have a lifetime of experience to use to give back.
>>71732195
>save my NEETbux
>buy immortality
>become eternal NEET
>immortality
It will be instantly hijacked by elites and we will have glorious leaders litteraly forever.
Overpopulating is still a problem, even if you close borders country's around you will put pressure.
Religious retards of every sorts will go jihad.
And i honestly do not think that society of immortal people will be better than ours just because our current society's designed with human suffering, fragility of life and imminent death. This puts some restrictions on how people can be exploited. Just imagine that you are immortal at last, but still locked in neverending work and actually can't go much further in career since immortality basically means that your boss will never go. Yeah it's pretty shitty to pay your loans for years, but i can easily imagine immortalist capitalism that will exploit people for decades.
>>71733657
I do not fear death.
I fear wasting my life, getting to that age and then my faculties start to fail. cant remember what I had for breakfast, shit my pants, ache all over and i get to live a few years in the knowledge that I did absolutely nothing of value when I had the chance.
>>71733746
We have at least two continents full of useless babies
>mfw scramble for Africa 2.0
>>71730962
This.
Only coward faggots want to live forever anyway
>>71733940
>the knowledge that I did absolutely nothing of value when I had the chance
this desu
>>71733020
>Gook lover using the black portugal meme
>"you don't know what you're talking about"
High consumption of vegetables causes lower caloric consumption rates, when did I say that wasnt the main factor as to why they have higher life expectancy?
I urge you to find a study that says a majority vegetable consumption diet isnt the best, quantumcuck.
And I'm the one who doesnt know what he's talking about, top. kek.
Unsaturated fatty acids, high consumption of dried fruits and of course soy and corn are obviously not advisable. I think you forgot what I wrote in my first post where I urged the research of nutrition rates. You'll find High vegetable/fruit, medium Carbohydrate low meat rates are the most ideal. But this of course, if you actually did any research rather than clamor for fearmongering against vegetable based diets just to be a contrarian to the unhealthy supplement hogging vegans.
Read a fucking book, an article on the internet, ANYTHING.
Youre vehemently defending vegetable diets are bad, hence I reckon te burden of proof is n you. You talked about PUFAs, but that doesnt mean you cant have a balanced diet without them. Vegans hog soy products because they think its a good alternative to meat products when it's shit, but of course, you forget that industria meat feeds soy, corn and seed to cattle and pigs, not to mention the unhealthy industrialized place where they are kept, which contaminates them with chemicals andheavy metals, andof course, the hormones injected in them.
Whic is why I said, a vegetable centric diet, with local rural meat to complement, and carb products like bread that arent made from ultra processed flour.
>>71733910
>>71722974
>that feel when she mutates into some unholy abomination and takes over the world
>>71733296
Well I did my research years ago when I was trying to get /fit/ but so many things have changed. Which fruits should I avoid? I eat a banana and an apple daily with the occasional mango, raspberries and kiwis.
What about rapeseed or flax seed oil?
>>71724220
except in the world of Elysium there was no competition to the space 1%, they were the only ones that had the know how and would never have let anyone rival them.
>>71734361
Kiwis are literally the most toxic food known to man.
>>71734361
>>banana daily
Nah, your body can only take/make use of so much potassium, banana is a sometimes food.
>>71722974
>>71723277
>We will live to colonize Mars and other planets.
>We will live to see other stars.
>We will live to have our minds uploaded to starships, clones or genetically modify organisms that can live anywhere in the galaxy.
>All thanks to increasing our natural spawn of life.
We will achieve true immortality
>>71734625
>he doesn't eat 30 bananas a day
What a fucking dumb cunt this one is.
>>71734518
oh for fuck sake, I hope you are meming
>>71734518
? Elaborate? I always heard they are quite healthy.
>>71734625
Alright, I just put slices of them in my oats since they taste bland as shit. What should I be alternating it with? Blueberries?
>>71734658
No, Jews 1% and Will Smith, get this. You get population controll forced sterilization and a cast based economy with no social mobility.
>>71734832
>>71734896
There's a reason they make industrial-strength cleaning solutions out of them.
>>71730353
>If you live forever, you have to work forever.
I don't see the problem, lazy ass.
Rarely been more relevant.
Anyway telomeres are only one aspect of biological ageing.
Relax, you're still going to die.
>>71730353
And this is why the poor will never be allowed access to immortality.
Most of you plebs are incapable of understanding that 'life' never truly ends, not even when you die. It just changes forms.
Every new life is simply a reset for a life that re-enters the physical world.
It takes an enlightened mind to cope with an eternity of life, to accept that learning never ends, and that knowledge is endless.
You can keep being recycled into the mortal coil. Your rulers will be eternal, and will eternally rule you.
>>71734361
Varied diets give us varied phytonutrients that bind to specific proteins within our body. This means that many fruits and vegetables are good for a variety of different things. The "Balanced diet" isnt a meme. Its important to mix and match. Keep your eyes out and avoid Unsturated and saturated fatty acids, found in corn, canola and soy, and in many dried fruits, and the latter I hope you know how to avoid. Alot of people are unaware of PUFAs or just how calorically heavy dried fruits and certain seeds are. Flax seed oil is alright but there are better alternatives. Olive oil has a fairly low ammount of both saturated and unsaturated fats, Grapeseed oil has very high Unsaturated fatty acids, while coconut oil and butter are horrid in terms of saturated fat rates.
Dont overeat fruit, steer away from dry fruit and fruit heavy plates like fruit salads
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-mOYGq24xQc
Check this guy's work out, he knows more than me.
>>71725183
>hey baby, let's bone!
>I've been working my fingers to the bone
>Wanna skull fuck me?
I'd get tired of the skeletal puns pretty quickly and beg for death.
>>71722974
>rejuvenation
>by telemere lengthening
Something tells me you don't understand how this works.
>>71722974
>mfw wagecucks think this is good news
>>71722974
Why would you want to live longer? Look around you. The world is going to shit and you want to live longer? You want to watch the SJWs tear the world apart? You want to watch the rise of degeneracy? Fuck that, I'd rather die
>>71734980
Revolutions have been fought for way, way less.
Go ahead, have the elite say that they have immortality and the unwashed masses not, see what happens, even the most faggot, hare krishnna - hippie will be out for blood.
>>71735266
Shut the fuck up up Joe Rogan.
You know damn well what we mean. Saying that life is a cycle and never really ends is fucking retarded because one's consciousness most definitely ends in death. Obviously matter is eventually rearranged into another brain which gives rise to another "life" but it has absolutely nothing to do with your own so it's a completely pointless statement to say the two are related or connected. It's no comfort to me that when I die the atoms that make up my body will become all sorts of other shit like dirt and grass because as soon as those atoms no longer support my continued consciousness then I no longer am alive in any meaningful sense.
>>71735547
Society rides upon a pendulum. Jews know this.
The harder social justice faggots swing one way, the harder and higher conservatives will eventually swing back.
Ride the tiger.
>>71735300
Wait so PUFAs are bad, mono-unsaturated is bad and saturated is bad. What the fuck are you recommending me? And thanks watching this guy's channel.
>>71735547
yea kinda want
>>71735712
But what if they win, anon? What if they win?
>>71735709
>is fucking retarded because one's consciousness most definitely ends in death
Well, we know who WON'T be given eternal life.
>>71723348
My backlog is large enough to warrent an extra lifetime or two
>>71735828
They always win, and we always win. It's a cycle.
>>71731166
This. Time to spread out.
Well be less vulnerable when we are on more then a single planet anyways.
>>71722974
You would still need regular organ transplants every 50 years. Unless the product literally reverses cell progression (which would require nothing less than a complete genetic rewrite) it can't work.
Honestly just sounds like something you would find on the front of some beauty magazine for old moms.
>>71736066
Look into consumption of incinerated gold dust.
Organs can be regrown by the body itself, not unlike how some animals regrow entire sets of teeth for life.
>>71736066
Stem-cells will be able to grow all sorts of organs within a decade or two. And CRISPR might even make that unnecessary. You might just needa genetic scan and a custom CRISPR injection every year or so to rehab your organs.
>>71735785
They arent bad, the thing is people have this idea they should settle for High PUFA or High Saturated or High monosaturated when the fact is saturating (no pun intended) your body with only one type of fatty acid because some shitty pseudo science nutritional media outlet said one type of fatty acid isbad. Dont forget these are industries at war, keep an eye out for misinformation. The truth? They all have ups and downs, which is why balacing a diet is important.
Some outlets have begun saying saturated fats are badand you should only eat high PUFA shitlike grapeseed and flaxseed, then some contrarians said butter was the best and listed the problems with high PUFA consumption. Dont get caught up in those diatribes. PUFAs are the best of the three but only by a small margin, eat whatever has the best balance of fats with slight inclination the poli unsaturated.
>>71735547
As long as Japan exist, and stay xenophobic, i hate a reason to live.
I just have to get citizenship before they permanently close themselves once the world fall to subhumanity.
>>71723263
>the company's own website praising the company
anyone have a VALID link?
>>71726328
collagen is purely asthetic
>>71730353
imbecile.
>>71736346
"Do not tell, but show."
Best lessons is to see it in practice. Tell me about some of your diet. The last few days for example? Thanks for all the answers so far. Luckily I mostly use olive oil so that is good, will alternate more.
>>71725351
by the time im 40, i can theoretically be reverted back to 20 safely, 10+ years is more then enough time for the guinea pigs (soros, rothschilds) to do there thing and inevitably trickle down
shit like this cannot be contained, there will be to many bleeding hearts, to many scientists with dying family members, to much money invested
once its out there, its out there, theres no going back
>>71734298
I had a similar thought awhile ago, people claim nano tech and engineering is what will be the downfall of humans. But what if you could control your own evolution?
Think of the movie The Thing one of those monsters could wipe out the earth once its replicated. In 200 years the earth could be overrun with Zerg like things, only the Koreans will be happy.
>>71728001
>>71734980
Black markets
This shit would get out of control way to soon
>>71736738
>Luckily I mostly use olive oil so that is good
most olive oil are not even real olive oil
>>71723263
Typical gullible frenchie frog
>>71736346
Thanks for the posts Portugal bro.
Would also like examples of your meals or good meals.
>>71727664
Interesting. While researching Vitamin D, I listened to a couple of podcasts where Dr. Rhonda Patrick discusses telomeres and that's about the extent of my knowledge.
For anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc815fQn8iY
>>71723588
>implying the UN wouldn't just hand over immortality to those poor poor africans
If you think the common man will have access to this you are all sorely mistaken.
>>71736738
My last meal was truffle risotto with cut zuchini, tomato and bell peppers. Had a side serving of bread (Barley) with a raspberry jam. It was lunch, so I ate a fair ammount, as you know , you should reduce caloric intake the more time o the da that passes.
I usually have small meals over the day with lunch being the largest, and have pretty much turned dnner into two small meals, one at the end of the afternoon and the smallest near bedtime. Risotto cooked with olive oil since its cheap as fuck here. The serving of risotto itself was medium, didnt fill the plate, and since I'm fairly active (not /fit/ level) I reckon it was about the right ammount of calories for the time of the day, some 660 I'd say
>>71732392
>The mosquito doesnt inject blood,
Is this correct? If so, how do they spread blood borne diseases like malaria and dengue?
>George Soros will live 300 years
All this therapy will do if it works is make cancer the new natural death.
>>71723367
>>71723729
>>71732491
In September 2015, telomere data taken from Parrish’s white blood cells by SpectraCell‘s specialised clinical testing laboratory in Houston, Texas, immediately before therapies were administered, revealed that Parrish’s telomeres were unusually short for her age, leaving her vulnerable to age-associated diseases earlier in life.
In March 2016, the same tests were taken again by SpectraCell revealed that her telomeres had lengthened by approximately 20 years, from 6.71kb to 7.33kb. This implies that Parrish’s white blood cells (leukocytes) have become biologically younger. These findings were independently verified by the Brussels-based non-profit HEALES (HEalthy Life Extension Company), and the Biogerontology Research Foundation, a UK-based charity committed to combating age-related diseases.
Parrish’s reaction: “Current therapeutics offer only marginal benefits for people suffering from diseases of aging. Additionally, lifestyle modification has limited impact for treating these diseases. Advances in biotechnology is the best solution, and if these results are anywhere near accurate, we’ve made history”, Parrish said.
>>71722974
#Trump3016
>>71737539
What did you find out about vitamin D?
>>71735446
>moldova
lol
>>71737731
Oh fuck
>>71735709
>no longer support my continued consciousness then I no longer am alive in any meaningful sense.
But would you really remain the same person throughout time immortal? After a thousand years, would you really have much in common with yourself at age twenty? How about when you're a million years old? Seems like you'd end up being a continuous array of different people who slowly overwrite each other as each millennia passes, one after another.
>>71727483
I dunno, I enjoy being a lawyer. I could go for 50-year cycles between fields of law, however.
>>71737799
That the majority of people in North America are terribly deficient in it since we don't go outside as much as our ancestors did. Also being fat sucks up a lot of your vitamin D, so fat people (the majority of North Americans) need even more vitamin D than our ancestors did. Also that vitamin D is really more of a hormone than a true vitamin so being deficient in it can screw up all kinds of regulatory systems in your body.
I make an effort to get outside more but still use a topical vitamin D cream a couple of days a week when I get out of the shower. Might be the placebo effect but it does seem to have improved my mood significantly.
>>71736397
Frenchman wanting to run away
>kek
>implying it will not be rigged so people will die from a switch
yeah no ill pass
>>71734072
I will respond to this comment when I'm 2 million years old.
>>71722974
you'll still die eventually or get bored of life
>>71737513
I recommend using meat as a side serving rather than the main course, that way you can distribute
mea consumption throughout the week. Zuchini, tomato, bell pepper, leafy vegetables and pastas are my favorites. Remember carbs are both your best friend and your worst enemy, but make good bases for dishes. Dishes like salads arevery low on fiber, so try balancing vegetable consumption with carb intake and use meat as side servings with mouthsized portions like meat strips. Leguminous foods are good but dont do somethin like dumping whole bowls of grain like my parents used to do when I was younger to conserve money. Leguminous and seeds, as Ive stated, have quite high poli unsaturateds.
Honestly my opinion is justbe creative, which soundscliché but
is very much true in these cases, print nutritional tables, and complementthem with dishes like meat chunks with a pasta of your choice and salted red onions and ring-cut bell pepper, rice with salmon lain in a bed of lettuce and cubed tomato with balsamic vinegar. And of course you can have simple yet balanced meals like salads as long as you dont neglect carbs and other fibers.
>>71738546
Ok, so you tell me than if i risk my life in the coming civil war, it'll garranti that all traitors are slaughtered ( and everyone have some traitors in the family or friends so i doubt it ), that women will either be reduced to powerless cattle forever ( good luck not having pity and giving them equal rights again like the pathological bleeding hearts we are ), and that all jews without exceptions will die ( all of them. gotta catch them all. even after name changes or the ones overseas ) ?
Because that's what it would take for this whole situation to not repeat in three to ten generations.
>>71738157
Quite the opposite, in fact. As we get older, the brains ability to form new connections, and operate them efficiently decreases. Slowly, over millennia, you would become more "set in your ways", until you were effectively running on a simple set of habitual pattern recognition behaviors similar to instinct.
In other words, you would gradually become less human and more animalistic, as your ability to adapt to new situations become eroded. A truly terrifying thought.
WHERE DO I BUY BIOVIVA STOCK?
>>71734072
Thats because you cant even wait to blow yourself up somewhere.
>>71737710
It doesnt inject blood, but the injections tracts inside of it are anatomically the same. The blood isnt injected but there can be contact of hemocytes that has a small yet very real chance of causing diseases to spread. Many types of moskitoes inject reflex toxins as they suck blood too, which can carry diseases
>>71739183
Privately owned
>>71737666
Lots of variety indeed, will try out new recipes. I heard phthalates are heavily present in tomatoes though - what do you think about that?
>>71739306
*Suction tracts
>>71737539
there was an interview with rhonda and aubrey de grey. in it, he was constantly looking at his watch and probably wondering why he was wasting his time with this stupid supplement shill.
de grey drinks a pint a day and is actually leading the work to finding the key to immortality.
>>71735712
This. After the degenerate 60s and 70s, pic was what was considered slutty and degenerate in the 80s. Sure there were still some mega degenerates like Madonna but people could distinguish between an entertainer and a role model, which isn't a very strong distinction these days. The pendulum always swings back.
>>71739034
I can't guarantee anything my friend but you could do good and help and you know it.
If all the good men run off because it's hard then we are
F U C K E D
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>>71723348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ1qTycmM8
Eternal Jew may turn into a thing
>>71739023
If you work out regularly is it ok to eat more meat? I heard that somewhere. I probably eat a bit too much meat right now. And I should switch off dairy milk.
>>71738514
Thanks. I don't like the idea of taking vitamins (would rather get from whole foods) but I think I will start taking vitamin d.
>>71739100
So we actually would become a society unable to adapt to changes in the universe around us. We'd need space travel for sure in order for the various hardened sects that would form to have their own spaces independent of each other. And if we found new planets on which we could expand, would older people be able to even stand for there to be new births since young people would inevitably be against the social order which would no longer be able to adjust to new ideas?
>>71739370
It's unfortunate yeah. Ou her people in the thread saying estrogen in water is what causes efeminate youth when the truth is that phthalates are very common in modern and unbalanced diets.
The tomato is very common. It's a great fruit but of course like everything, it has its downsides. Small ammounts of such t estosterone inhibitors are not too problematic as the hormonal feedback systems will usually complement drops in production. The thing about Phthalates is that they survive industrial processing fairly well, so it is often present in even frozen meals. Get fresh tomato and eat it with some regularity as it has great antioxidant content. Aslong as yu dont start putting two tomatoes in every meal there shouldnt be much of a problem
>>71739389
We hung out with him at DragonCon a few years ago. Pretty fun guy and ridiculously patient with questions he must have answered thousands of times before. And yes, he does love his beer.
Why do you call Dr. Patrick a supplement shill? I've never seen her shill anything on her podcast except generic things such as vitamin D. I know she goes on Joe Rogan's podcasts sometimes and he shill a lot of products. Is that where she tries to sell things?
You are all fucking idiots. Why would they give you retards immortality? It would barely go to the elite of the elite. It isn't subsidized on fucking healthcare do you idiots even think
>>71739856
Extended lifetimes would be a boon to space travel, as we could coast to nearby star systems using Orion ships. It wouldn't matter if the journey took hundreds of years. In this way, man will gradually spread out into the galaxy.
Also, increased lifespans would mean an increase in wisdom and knowledge, so our progress as a sentient species would accelerate.
The problem of immortal decrepitude would sort itself out, I think. As very, very old people became less able to adapt to their surroundings, the universe will simply kill them off the old fashioned way. Most of the time, having degenerated to that extent, they would be unaware of their doom, so it would be a blessing.
>>71739552
It is. Fats are used when you do exercise, The body uses different energy sources in a layered favoritism manner. First, higher use of glycids, carbs and sugars for energy. These provide very quick metabolic energy, so they are great for when you are going for a run afterwards. Then, when mostofthese are expended, fats and fatty acids are expended. It used to be tha nutritionists pointedthese to be the main causes of weight gain in populations, but modern diets have become so carb and sugar intensive and at the same time so sedentary, that the weight switched to the first, which is aslo the quickest to be expended. Fats have a slightly longer metabolic conversion, and are often found in meat and dairy products. Conceivably, you could eat almost no meat andstill be able to exercise thanks to glycids, but thos isnt a good idea because of this last layer of metabolic fuel. Protein has the lowest metabolic rate, but is very important. Often, your body wont be eating through it unless youre starving. Lack of it causes muscular atrophy as it is the prefered energy source of energy for ATP conversion in localised parts of the body like muscles. This is why a skinny ass vegan always feels like crap and low energy, the lack of fat and carb probably from eating only salads has made the body have to tap into protein stores for energy. Long story short, depending on work load, you can eat more meat, but have to reduce carb intake in the food you eat before physical exercise.
>>71739329
so where do i buy the stock
>>71740904
From the person who owns the company.
This story depresses me. I want to live a normal 80 year old life
>>71722974
>christcuck
If anything Muslims will whine about it offends Allah, or some shit.
Then the libtards will ban if for being offensive.
>>71740858
Thank you, senpai.
I had a great trip to Lisbon last year. Hope to visit again soon. Very friendly people.
>>71723348
I'd be good with eternal youth instead. If by living forever means I get to lay on a hospital bed and shit myself for a few extra days then no.
>>71730962
Why would i care for the progress of humanity if I have to die anyway?. I would rather live forever and see humanity die.
>>71732195
underrated
>>71740904
> Implying the Rotchshild would like to sell any stocks to you or anybody.
>>71741578
And thanks for the tourism, it really helps us :D
>>71723588
>Americans and Europeans affording this
I think what you mean is "Oy Vey we can't have G_d's chosen people dieing of old age not when so many shekels go un-hoarded."
>>71722974
> ceo of an important medical company.
Fuck me ofc the rich will be the ones to live forever while the rest wither and die. Its over lads freedom is over. Prepaire to get indoctrinated harder so they can rule slaves forever.
>>71722974
>http://bioviva-science.com/2016/04/21/first-gene-therapy-successful-against-human-aging/
POPULATION CAP HERE WE COME
PLANETARY WARFARE HERE WE COME!
FORCED LABOR HERE WE COME!
Fug
>>71724377
Play "No Man's Sky" on the PS4. Life is meaningless and only the narcissistic and egomaniacs are going to become immortal.
>>71724220
>most tech starts expensive then gets cheap
Might be true except for a true "immortality" drug. Once immortal the makers will no longer need to care about the swift income they will have all the time they desire to amass wealth so there will no longer be a need to open it up to the general population. Combine that with the "exclusivity" a high price tag will offer and universal desire of such a product and it would be easy to see this as a rich only luxury item.
>>71738480
Law is a clown's profession. The only 4 fields in the future are going to be design, engineering, science, and medicine. Lawyers won't be needed since a robot can punch you in the face and tell you how much you broke the law.
>>71742897
Basically this. Soros will live forever, whie our life expectancy will continue to decline.
>>71742897
lol
I give it 2 months until there's a laboratory in China that'll synthesize it distribute it, just like every "anti-aging" drug that's still in clinical trials. You can get a gram of Daumone for $700 if you really wanted to right now.
Is Ray Kurzweil one of the investors to Bioviva? If so, then you should worry.
>>71735220
This. Only source is a corporate press release. It's like when the Raelians claimed to have cloned a human.
And even when it is done in a lab and clinical setting, it must be repeated before taken as fact, as the fiasco with that Korean biologist who fabricated half his results unfortunately set.
>>71743013
Actually with how often babies are popped out thats a far greater issue than genetically immortal people. Actually be interesting to see what happens with retirement and social security. Funny I was just talking about this with my boss a few days ago
>>71742897
Actually, Liz Parrish is trying to make the techniques as affordable as possible. She's very vocal about it - although I don't have faith she'll succeed. She wants things like medical insurance to cover them, which will happen about exactly when man walks on the sun.
>>71743886
or when we have a single payer healthcare system
t. bernie sanders
>>71722974
>an eternity of this life
>>71722974
WHAT
HOLY SHIT
PLEASE WORK OUT
FUCK ME MAN
it doesnt matter, we'll still live for as long as our brains will let us to
if someone really wanted to experiment with prolonging lifespan, theyd start by researching how to prevent brain ageing and diseases associated with it. Trying to rejuvenate body is just trying to fix a shell
>>71722974
Why the fuck would you want to live forever?
>>71744170
That's literally what Bioviva is doing. You guys never read up on anything on this board, do you?
>>71723815
if we extend our lifespans, it will be easier to travel to other planets
>>71723277
>>71734658
The jew$ will get it, take it for their own, and suppress any news articles about it or other people who want it
>>71723720
>boomers become immortal
>draw benefits for the rest of eternity while newer generations wage slave for eternity
I agree with other anons that this will only exacerbate cancer related death. Nature will not suffer an immortal entity in its midst, and has thus ensured our destruction through countless alternative means.
>>71732195
Underrated as fuck.
>>71734658
We will live to witness the most callous forms of warfare yet to be invented.
>>71739100
So we need to develop critical thinking and case based reactivity while devaluing and dissuading the rules based reaction models
Every immortal must become a completely unbiased empiricist if not an outright scientist
>>71739976
So, let's say I want to inhibit testosterone production, would it be advisable to augment a diet with high phthalate items?
>shortening telemeres
All past attempts at this have resulted in mega-cancer
...hope they fixed that issue.
