Jesus Christ /pol/ is there no end to western degeneracy? What the fuck would compel someone to take a photo like this.
>pic related are brothers, older brother was a heroine dealer and overdosed himself now everyone is praising this low life.
>>70893904
Oh fuck off, he's still their family member you spergo.
Sage
>>70893904
I think you'll find people in the West used to take lots of photos like that.
>>70893904
I've seen worse. In this website, no less.
>>70893904
i am not saying that every single person needs to own a $100+ suit but the least this dude can do is show some respect by not wearing a dumbass hoody and his iPod earphones and shit
jesus
>>70893904
People used to do much worse m8
>>70893904
None of it fucking matters in the end anon. It's family.
>>70894327
what is going on here?
>>70894477
filename
>>70894477
That's a corpse.
>>70894477
he's dead
>>70894327
It's only creepy because it's fucking looking at you
>>70893904
Far better than what GG got. OP's photo is not that degenerate.
>>70893904
https://youtu.be/kPoGRfyrBWU
>>70894528
>>70894553
>>70894607
well shit now i got the heeby jeebies
>>70893904
This is common in the west actually i have a photo of my great grandmothers dead body on the casket.
>>70894930
Don't be scared m8.
Just be glad it's dead
>>70894477
>what is going on here?
Victorian-era Memento Mori
Though stands/supports used for the living were also used when standing to reduce blur, people tend to sway a little which becomes more apparent with older photographs which took a while to take/develop.
The deceased had their eyes painted on after the photo was taken
Pic related notice the living are bury even when sitting, yet the deceased picture is sharp due to no motion, also if you look carefully her eyes are closed but the pupils have been painted onto the photo afterwards.
oh OP, you have yet to see anything if this bothers you.
Spics do this all the time and I just don't fucking get it. They'll carry around pictures of dead people lying in their coffins on the cover of their notebooks and shit, it's bizarre.
White people will climb into the hospital bed of someone who died seconds ago and take pictures of themselves laying next to them, though. That's even weirder.
>>70895415
God I remember that, didnt she give a loaded gun to her baby?
>>70895415
>the people attending the service
Man just fucking look at everyone's faces. Those aren't the faces of people who are grieving.
>>70895657
Different kids
The image that floats around is incorrect
>>70895870
I was thinking the same thing. Look at Anakin, fucking standing there smirking.
>>70895415
No...that can't be real...holy shit...that is just so fucking...omg...I can't put it in words how much I hate this...how fucking sad, BUT ABSOLUTE RETARDED AUTISM with the the Insane Clown Posse logo. I mean, what are people thinking as a parent? They honestly thought that was a good idea? Omg...THIS IS FUCKED.
>>70893904
Are you talking about taking pictures of dead people?
I dunno. The older generation of my Hispanic family does this. I always thought it was a Hispanic thing.
I think it's creepy 2 honest senpai.
>>70894308
Depending on the Hispanic, wearing suits to funerals is not often used. You are right on the Hoodie and earphones.
>>70896509
yeah I just think photographing the dead is wrong. I'll probably get shit for this but they can't really consent to it so.... and plus posting it online for attention bothers me as well
>>70895179
That is deeply disturbing
>Jesus Christ /pol/ is there no end to western degeneracy?
People are completely irrational about dead family members, anon.
Personally, I find the act of injecting them with embalming fluid to prevent decomposition and the funeral ceremony itself rather disturbing, regardless of the manner in which it's performed.
this is fun.
>>70893904
>wearing Blood gear
>>70896913
>they can't really consent to it
They're dead. They're inanimate objects. They don't have rights.
>>70895415
The older people are all "Well, probably for the best."
>>70894327
I>>70894477
>>70894528
>>70894553
>>70894607
>>70894678
I thought that was a shit.
>>70897134
can't tell fi b8 but it was a person and it did have rights last week
>>70894553
>>70894327
What's the fucking point of doing this?
>>70893904
ORFL is he wearing a hoodie and a hat in his brothers funeral?
>>70897286
And those rights expired upon death.
>>70897345
Too poor to have a pic while living.
>>70897134
Necrophilia is illegal, so I guess dead bodies have some rights.
>>70897381
So why don't you go dig up a grave then, if the dead don't have rights?
>>70897345
just google "victorian death portraits"
>>70897381
then come to my town and die so I can fuck your boipucci because you're just a lifeless piece of flesh for me to fulfill my wild desires faggot
no homo
>>70893904
Their family member is dead and they want to mourn him. You think they should disown him and forget his memory because he committed crimes?
>>70897208
Pssst
Me too
>>70897345
When cameras were first developed, people were still trying to come up with a use for them. If you were one of the people fortunate enough to own a camera you had to come up with appealing ways to profit from the investment. Some people were very superstitious about photography when it was still new. The association is obvious.
Offering to give people a snapshot of their loved ones post-mortem was one of those ways.
>>70897496
Because the owners of the property they're buried in have the right to indulge people in their superstitious nonsense.
>>70897594
no not at all that was just background info what bothers me is the picture. Everything about the picture just makes me cringe and feel weird because it was shared on jewbook for all to see
>>70897527
When I'm dead I couldn't give fuck all about what you do to my corpse.
Honestly.
Have a ball.
>>70897782
>I couldn't give fuck all about what you do to my corpse.
o rly
>>70897846
Yes. Really.
My family might be upset, but it's only because they're caught up in the same irrational spell that you are.
I think it'd be pretty funny to allow families to sell my corpse to the highest bidder.
>>70898019
Just donate your corpse to science then.
In theory everything but just throwing the corpse into the bin is "degenerate"
I am getting so tired of that word btw. Cultures are all degenerating from something else, it's another form of evolution. From mummification to viking boat funerals to novelty coffins.
When people die, the ones left alive try to make sense of it according to their own beliefs. Crying is a waste of energy too, but we're human and that's ok.
>>70898109
I already am.
>>70895415
does anyone see the fucking jedi in the back? laughing my ass off
>>70894789
yeah, but thats what GG wanted. They buried him the way they found him and the way he lived.
>>70895415
YEAH WIGGUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVz-EVQRZcQ
I'm more pissed about the instant sainthood you get when you die in the West.
If you were an asshole in life you're still an asshole when you're dead.
>>70898755
Where do you think the concepts of Heaven and Hell came from?
Oh, sorry, I shouldn't say things like that in front of the people expecting literal pearly gates.
>>70894019
>sage
reported, shitlord
>>70893904
OP --- because spics and niggers. multitudes of photos in this thread of whites from victorian age but white people have evolved a bit in a hundred years while spics and niggers still havent caught up.
>>70894327
His eyes look living and expressive.
>>70898837
Yeah, but here every douchebag goes to heaven. I'd love to go to a funeral where were all muttering about how this fucker is definitely in Hell while the preacher/priest tip-toes around it.
>>70899163
>I'd love to go to a funeral where were all muttering about how this fucker is definitely in Hell
That happens quite a bit behind closed doors.
>>70895051
>.gif
>>70899292
>That happens quite a bit behind closed doors.
>Americans debate whether you went to fairy land or the river styx.
Good luck with that
oh fuck, get ready for a good dump right now
>>70899595
>>70894327
That's a pic of OP's great, great grandfather who was also a fagit
>>70899614
>>70899633
>>70899474
The point I was making is that "Heaven" and "Hell" aren't literally real, and are only symbolic representations of how your memory is preserved.
"Heaven" is when people miss you and preserve your "essence", as it were.
"Hell" is when people just think, "good riddance", even when they say otherwise.
Some people take that symbolism literally though, and that's hilarious.
>>70894308
The hoodie has a big ass gun on it too. Classy
>>70899633
Another
>>70899772
This one is classy
>>70899797
Greenlantern
>>70899667
Got you. I've only heard heaven or hell mentioned once at a funeral here and that was for a disabled child.
>Some people take that symbolism literally though, and that's hilarious.
Is it in the education?
>>70899819
This one is pretty legit
>>70899842
Pimpin
It's not nice to speak ill of the dead regardless of how scummy they were in real life, everyone has someone who loved them for whatever reason and it causes them further pain.
Doesn't change the fact that they were horrible in life, but I think they should be forgiven in death.
>>70899860
Lambo
Close up of
>>70899772
>>70899836
The church doesn't elaborate upon the symbolism on purpose, because you're supposed to figure that one out on your own.
It's probably a combination of education and desperation.
>>70893904
They're hispanic
Obviously its entirely the evil US governments fault for having drugs banned (just like mexico, but they get a free pass somehow), otherwise he would have never overdosed on heroin because he would have had an unlimited supply
oh wait
nah but for real he's probably some fucking idiot whos tolerance dropped or was getting some watered down shit and then tried to inject a bunch and died, good riddance
>>70899653
>dig up the grave
>get a sweet new motorcycle
>>70899928
>It's not nice.
Yeah, well, I'm an asshole.
Tell everyone all about it.
>>70899667
Actually its the two states of mind you typically go into when you're dying and getting massive brain damage
It resembles psychosis, or dreams, or schizophrenia or psychedelic drugs, its all pretty similar really
>>70899987
I think some of the people who have this done do it as one final gesture of their sense of humor.
>>70900023
>>70900208
No, i think they just don't have any taste. A lot of the pictures I'm finding are from puerto rico. Like almost all of them are puerto rican funerals
>>70900191
Apparently you get that same result with DMT
>>70894327
The whole point of those Roman/Renaissance/Victorian busts was supposed to be for the dead to stare into your soul and make you do the right thing as you walked down the halls and trod the carpet contemplating your actions.
> Aus must have also had that Victorian influence
BRING IT BACK AUS!
>>70900218
>>70894327
>>70894553
>>70895179
what the christ was the matter with Victorians?
>>70894327
It's called "Sitting Up with The Dead." Popular until around 1900 when they would PROP UP the deceased in the living room for 24 hours before burial. The kid in that pic is DEAD. That thing behind him is a PROP LEG of an angle iron that's holding his carcass errect standing before burial.
>>70893904
I've actually told my family that I don't even want a coffin if I die.
Pay for a plot, wrap me in a blanket and throw me in. No embalming, no priest, the only ceremony is a gathering at the grave site.
>>70900407
last one
I've actually told my family that I don't even want a coffin if I die.
Pay for a plot, wrap me in a blanket and throw me in. No embalming, no priest, the only ceremony is a gathering at the grave site.
>>70899595
> Cap on while on a bike??
Guess they had to put the cap on because his head exploded from the impact.
> Always wear a helmet!
I can't tell if I should laugh at some of these or what, but seriously, just burn my body and throw the ashes to sea. No need for any of these ceremony
>>70900636
His head is still intact, obviously he didn't die from a head explosion
>>70899229
The only good brony is a dead brony
>>70900407
At least he was loved. I think. Or something of the sort.
We don't have niggers where I am, but we do have the occasional beaner gangbanger. I saw one where everybody was in a pizza shop with their shitty airbrushed shirts that said (pay attention to the spelling) "In loveing memory of Carlos."
>>70900525
>Your fog lamps are on!
>>70900610
I told my wife that I wish it was legal to make a super edgy display full of my body parts in jars and shit and make an occult shrine with diagrams of portals to hell and all manner of 2spooky4u shit.
I don't actually believe in the shit but I think it's funny that people get so worked up about the imagery.
>>70898215
Fuck you. I didn't see them until you pointed it out and I lost my shit.
Oh shit that was a good dump
>>70894327
Really high but I just got a spooking from this kid when I stared into his eyes.
>mfw when I hear a spooky kid giggle when I selected this pepe
>mfw he is still here
>>70894327
That kids not dead in that photo. That device on him was a clamp often used on children (and even adults) to keep them still for the photograph, considering it took a while to develop.
Victorians hardly ever took photos of the deceased. It was a very sensitive subject for them.
>>70894308
>>70894308
>$100+ dollar suit
Why? That looks better than a polyester piece of shit suit that isn't fitted by a tailor.
>>70897381
>>70897134
>hurr durr, it's dead therefore no rights
>what is bodily autonomy
read a book
>>70900523
How about the funeral ceremony described in this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD2u75f44Yg
I would add that everybody should go get fucked up and have fun.
>When I die, take my saddle from the wall
>put it on my pony lead him out of his stall
>tie my bones to his back
>turn our faces to the west
>and we'll ride the prairie that we love the best
>>70899229
I bet his parents were immensely proud of his life accomplishments.
And relieved when he finally killed himself.
>>70901120
>read books where people go to great lengths to legitimize what is essentially "muh feelings" with 5 dollar words
No.
>>70900488
this shit is weird lol
i wonder what can kind of thoughts made them do this
>>70897496
>thinks gravedigging is illegal because of "rights of the dead"
This isn't skyrim idiot.
>>70897013
Hey have you read Smoke Gets in Your Eyes ? Are you more a fan of cremation or green burials ? I prefer green. I like the idea of giving my body back to earth.
>>70894019
fpbp
>>70899614
that steering wheel
>>70901272
>denying the existence of a long-established social and legal construct, because muh stupidity and convenience
please tell me again how there is no such thing as "bodily autonomy", and how corpses have no legal rights. i'll wait
explain how you can indeed eat a dead body, fuck a dead body, harvest their organs or use the corpse for science without permission, cut their dick off and mount it on the hood of your car, i'd love to hear this
>>70901721
I won't care what happens to my corpse when I'm dead, so I'm telling my family to do whatever they want with it, and I hope they're smart enough not to go and blow lots of money on it.
>>70901837
>explain how you can indeed eat a dead body, fuck a dead body, harvest their organs or use the corpse for science without permission, cut their dick off and mount it on the hood of your car, i'd love to hear this
It's easy. You just don't get caught.
>>70897496
the corpse are technically property of the land they are buried on.
the funeral is the transfer of custody
>>70901837
>explain how you can indeed eat a dead body, fuck a dead body, harvest their organs or use the corpse for science without permission, cut their dick off and mount it on the hood of your car, i'd love to hear this
You seem to be mistaking the irrational nonsense we call "law" for the philosophical constructs it is based upon.
Philosophy went forward into deconstructing itself and hitting a glass door.
Law stayed in the "muh feelings" section.
I don't need your permission to consume your body parts if I so choose. Technically I don't even need the permission of your family members if they don't see me doing it and sperg out in a ragefit like you're doing right now. You wouldn't be there to stop me.
>>70893904
>Oh my Allah /pol/ my feelings!!!
Family is family you dumb faggot
>>70893904
Burials are stupid and pointless and waste a lot of space for possible real estates
Cremation is the way to go
>>70902241
>the irrational nonsense we call "law"
confirmed bait, because nobody is this stupid
>>70893904
>What the fuck would compel someone to take a photo like this.
I think the same thing every time I see a photo like this.
WHO THE FUCK THINKS ITS OK TO TAKE PHOTOS AT A FUCKING FUNERAL?!?!?!?!
>>70903812
So basically what you're saying is that legal is the final authority on what is truth.
Then I don't ever want to hear you bitch about refugees' rights, transgender rights, and abortion rights ever again, you fucking pathetic little spergathon.
>>70900828
There's no fog! NO FOG!
The original discussion:
>Do dead people have rights, yes/no.
>>70897134
>They're dead, they're inanimate objects, they don't have rights.
>>70897381
>rights expire upon death.
What you butthurt faggots have straw-manned this discussion into, since you objectively lost the debate:
>duuuuuuude but like ¿? what even IS the law ?¿
>>70905043
>>70902241
wew lads
>>70903047
I would rage if I knew that I was going to be buried like this. I'd rather let my corpse rot in the sun.
>>70903047
is this why people thought gypos came from Egypt
>>70899667
you just pulled that out of your ass but thanks anyway, I guess
>>70894019
this
>>70894327
nooooooo
it's late and i was about to go downstairs to get some food
If you had a close relative, you'd only see the good aspects of him; everyone else's views might be different but you'd always remember her/him as an innocent child cause you grew up with them.
>>70905337
>objectively
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Objectively, rights are like deities. Lots of people believe in them and will go into full crybaby mode if challenged on whether they actually exist.
Fortunately for you, "objectivity" isn't a concern in a debate about "muh feelings".
>>70899653
>having to pay a jew fuck to give you a ride through the Acheron
>not riding downriver in your harley laughing at poorfags.
top kek
>>70899878
I know!! I totally want to do this, and then donate my body and to ashes with the rest!
>>70900218
>So fucking cheap you carry your own boat to the underworld instead of paying up.
>>70893904
What's wrong with that photo?
>>70906179
I read this while driving, almost crashed my car
>>70894789
>The funeral took place on July 3, 1993 in his native New Hampshire, at the St. Rose Cemetery, Littleton.[30] At his funeral, Allin's bloated, unpreserved corpse was dressed in his black leather jacket and trademark jock strap. He had a bottle of Jim Beam beside him in his casket, per his wishes (openly stated in his self-penned acoustic country ballad, "When I Die"). As part of his brother's request, the mortician was instructed not to wash the corpse (which smelled strongly of feces) or apply any makeup.
Allin's funeral became a low-level party.[31] Friends posed with his corpse, placing drugs and whiskey into his mouth. As the funeral ended, his brother put a pair of headphones on Allin. The headphones were plugged into a portable cassette player, in which was loaded a copy of The Suicide Sessions. Allin was buried in his mother Arleta's plot beside his grandparents.[32]
Fucking brutal.
>>70893904
Yeah, those are shitskins. From the looks of it, probably Puerto Ricans.
>part nigger, part mestizo spic--mezlatto or multizo
>>70898904
>>70906458
Girlfriend keeps changing songs on her iPod whilst driving. Swerves all over the place. That said, no worse than usual.
Buddy of mine used to play Temple Run on his phone whilst bored on the motorway
>>70900488
>what the christ was the matter with Victorians?
Implications that we don't do it too
>>70910789
too soon ;-;
>>70893904
I'm glad he is dead.
Fucking ghoul, hope he didn't breed.
We might have to GAS HIS KIDS
>wearing baggy jeans, a baseball cap with a hood over your head to your fucking brothers funeral.
What the fuck. Even niggers and spics would put on a fucking suit for a funeral in the 50s, shit.
>>70910789
Context?
>>70893904
>Jesus Christ /pol/ is there no end to western degeneracy? What the fuck would compel someone to take a photo like this.
>It's degenerate to pay respects to a dead older sibling.
>It's degenerate to wonder where it started when it all went wrong and how you could have done more to help.
Pic related.
>>70905920
Made me kek, not gonna lie.
>>70911460
No one knows. Its a shitty 2008~ /b/ meme.
Post image, people reply "too soon ;-;" or something similar and people like you take the bait.
>>70911460
Apparently a /b/ tard killed her, when he tried to date rape her with a concoction of sleeping pills and alcohol.
>>70911637
I'm happy to take the bait, I don't go on the containment board or know what their memes are, and a reverse image search didn't answer my question.
>>70895415
>going to a funeral in your everyday clothes
Do Americans actually do this?
>>70911765
Its like a decade old. Just stating the origins of that image.
>>70911460
That's your mum back when she was working the streets.
>>70910789
So sad.
>>70911856
please son, you're embarassing the other americans
>>70911749
>>70911800
never mind, found it. thanks anyway lads
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Perfection_Girl
>>70911777
Wait, are you not supposed to?
>>70911777
What else would you wear?
Life goes fast ;_;
>>70902241
>>70905043
>>70906009
>why are all these plebs considering their feelings and not adhereing to my philosophy?!
literal autism
The dead are my ancestors, people who build the society in which I live, without them, what would my society have been except for a failure? What would I have been except for a failure. The dead deserve respect as they gave their lives for the future of my society and my country. Nihilist fags can go suck a dick and think about how life is useless.
>>70912063
>>70912139
Fucking suite and Tie you damn heathens.
>>70912063
>>70912139
No suit and black tie? Unless specifically stated, if someone turned up to a funeral over here in their normal clothes there would be seen as a huge disrespect to the deceased.
I'm actually really surprised you lot don't do this
>>70912194
ITT people of The Netherlands have the best grasp on, and respect for, both life and death.
>With the exception of that Dutch faggot yesterday who started the "I'm terrified of dying" whinge thread.
Hitchens once said that people will believe in religion so long as they fear death, and I think there's a lot of truth in that. Probably why atheists outnumber theists in The Netherlands.
Dutch euthanasia laws are based.
>>70912434
He's probably trolling. Nobody but white trash and niggers would attend a funeral in less than formal attire.
>>70900488
sleep tight loli
>>70912707
Link to the thread?
>>70916651
Here ya go, it's archived.
>>70720100
>>70900997
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2450832/Victorian-photographs-relatives-posing-alongside-dead-bodies.html
>>70893904
>western
>mexicans
pick one
>>70894327
whats that?
>>70900035
Everyhing you're posting is objectively wrong and theologically unsound.
If there is no afterlife, there is no justice, and thus no God.
Christ taught that the children of Satan die the second death of "hell". Those who are saved will eat from the tree of life and enjoy eternity with their Creator. What "hell" is like, and what the nature of the afterlife is like for those who are saved allows some room for interpretation. But they cannot reasonably be interpreted within Christ's teaching as symbolic; they must be literal.
There is no room in Christ's teaching for interpretation of the afterlife as purely symbolism.
>>70912194
Sort of contradicting yourself, tbhfam. Everything you are saying is a completely subjective view.
Seeing as how most of what you're saying is opinions and/or ideals of what is distinguishable between right/wrong, moral/immoral - which society has taught you but, that doesn't necessarily make any of it absolute truth, right or wrong - if pr-established laws didn't tell you where the line was drawn, you'd have no idea and be free to explore any and all of it for yourself, likely with very little remorse. Instead, you're ensnared by these teachings of morality vs. immorality from a very young age which is nothing short of brainwashing, but I'm sure plenty would play their evolved/sophisticated/whatever card, being human beings and all. Still, morals are an idea put into motion. For the majority, without early teachings, they'd continue ceasing to exist. Not entirely sure this is what I'd base my ancestors success/failures on in its entirety though. Seems... /disrespectful/ if not flat out uneducated.
>>70895051
This is fucking with me right now
sleep tight babu
>>70899229
This is really sad. Didn't even get to outlive the childish obsession
>>70895179
The scary part is I don't know which one is the dead one.
>>70920353
Not a part of your conversation but chiming in because you're talking nonsense.
Your presentation of morality as some arbitrary made up thing is an opinion not a fact. I believe the evidence of human experience and history suggests that there is an objective and literal difference between good and evil. I find that this difference is not made up by humans, but exists outside the human mind, much like mathematics. Thus I believe in a supreme law of morality which can be sensed by humans, and taught to humans, but not changed by humans.
Teaching moral relativism, or that all morality is arbitrary and relative to your culture, is degenerate subversive garbage. If you think morals are truly relative, then you should really think about what free will means to you and where your sense of right and wrong should come from. If your answer is "muh logic and reason", how does this make you better then people who use their logic and reason to come to opposite conclusions? If then each of you with individual reason and logic come to opposite opinions of what is morally good, then your morality is relative and unreliable and should be abandoned. This line of thinking leads one to either search for a higher sense of morality that transcends the human will and condition, or a nihilistic view of humans as animals with no real will, no real responsibilities, and no real justice or consequence to actions outside of this petty life.
Ethics can vary with culture and context. True morality cannot. Ethics typically relate to what is accepted as right or wrong in a given culture or profession. Morals relate to an appeal to a higher sense or what what is expected of a "good" person.
I believe (and also think the evidence supports), that true morality lies outside the human mind, and in fact is only one aspect of understanding the nature of our Creator. Further, I think Christ taught the truth about what God desires from us, and thus what true morality is.
>>70893904
>It's degenerate to be sad when a loved one dies
Autism overload, m8
>>70894327
fucking bogans and their monster spiders
>>70912140
That cuck on the right couldn't even get a nice haircut
>>70900997
That's a kid? But his face... his face is so old looking.
>>70897381
How fucking stupid. As life itself is a 'right', it's obvious life is not the source of rights.
>>70900488
>live in old times
>not much money
>cameras are rare
>no pics of kid
>kid dies
>last chance to get a pic
Its weird, but it makes sense
>>70894789
came here to post that photo.
It's a lot less degenerate than Joel-Peter Witkin.
>live out your whole life to have your corpse illegally obtained and have this done to it
>>70899772
>>70900023
Ayy, this one is ours, we call him "El Muerto Parao" which means the Standing Dead. There's some weird funerary here that does shit like that, there's also pic related and many others.
>>70924626
>>70918814
Ohhhhh this is quite high quality bait
>pic semi unrelated
>>70910789
too soon, anon.
>>70902140
Are you retarded.
>>70924895
>flag
3/10
>>70893904
>press F to pay respects
>>70907004
the fuck is a cassette player?
