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Atheists actually believe this happened by chance


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>Atheists actually believe this happened by chance
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>>70329911
A FUCKING LEAF
A FUCKING LEAF
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>>70329911
>not understanding organic chemistry
>not understanding fractals
>not understanding statistics
>not understanding survival of the fittest
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>>70330005
Neat
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>>70330005
fpbp
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>>70329911

>religious people literally too stupid to understand basic science of evolution
>"hurr durr magic man did it"
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>>70330005


The burger prepares to post something clever. He slams his fat fingers into the keyboard, squinting at the letters because 50 chins block his FOV.

He begins furiously typing, the keys rattle with each press. But he cannot make any legible sense because thoughts of McDonald's, his sister's vagina and 9/11 (nevar 4get) keep popping into his head. He manages to string a few nonsensical words together, he hits post. Suddenly, his heart begins to fill with pride at the American education system. They taught him to finish a sentence.

He stands up, knocking over a gallon of diet coke, and raises his hand to his man boobs. Soft trumpets play in the background as he whispers "Murica!" with teary eyes.

Tragically his heart gives way to such undue stress of standing up. He tumbles to the ground with a loud splat, struggling to breath. The life slowly leaves his beady eyes...

And this is the story of a proud, red white and blue Murican! Dog bless USA.
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Most people still don't understand insects come from mammals
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>>70330005
Very very good post
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>>70329911
No we don't
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>>70329911

i know this is a troll, but this particular example is actually fantastic evidence for why it DID happen by chance
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>>70329911
In what world is "if I don't look like a leaf, I will die" chance?
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>>70329911
natural selection is the opposite of chance.
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>>70330018
>>not understanding survival of the fittest
But it would've been many incremental changes through long periods of time to get the current insect. How did all the other insects survive until they evolved into it's current form?
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>>70329911
Why do Jesus freaks think evolution has to exist without a God or creator, or some event that sparked the universe? Why do they continue to picture God as this straggly bearded old wise man who created the universe in 6 days?
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>>70329911
>believe
exactly, atheism is the BELIEF that there is no "God", whatever that means.

its a fucking religion, its the only one who doesnt realize its a religion though, making its cult members extremely pretentious
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>>70329911
Christfags believe this happened because of normal evolution.

American christfags believe muh magic god in heaven made this for some reason.
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>>70330327
The world is old as fuck, modern humans have existed for at least 45,000 years. Im sure in the great span of time that life has been on earth shit couldve evolved
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>>70330172
A Fucking Used Pad
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>>70330172
Here's your (You).
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>>70330388
I dont really believe in anything, I just dont really care and dont see a need to
*shrug*
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>Chance
Natural selection is not pure random chance
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>>70330388
I also "believe" that there is no invisible harry potter monster clown flying around my house all day and night that no one can hear, see or interact with.

I mean, I can't prove he's not there. But I tend not to believe it. Is this a religion too?
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>>70330172
-1/10

cmon you fucking leaf
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>>70329911
WE WUZ PLANTS AND SHIT
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>>70330172
Anyone else read this in David Attenborough's voice?
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>>70329911
Patterns emerge when you have a sufficiently large set
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>>70329911
>t. guy who don't understand evolution

also a fucking leaf... i blame america for not annexing canada, and letting 4chan suffer from leafposting
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>>70330362
It's only weird yank sects like baptists that are retarded young earthers.
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>>70330327
Because in order to look like a fucking leaf, that insect is bad at other things. There are always trade off for anything. The brown insects might be better at jumping or hiding in dirt. Hell, Mr. Leaf Bug probably did well for a while until creatures evolved to be smart enough to recognize shapes.
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>>70330005
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>>70330005
Thread over
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>>70330621
no
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>>70330172
A FUCKING LEAF
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>>70330327
The same way all the insects without such camouflage survived. It's not NECESSARY, just extremely beneficial, and the ones that were incrementally more similar to their surroundings would escape predation better.
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I'll bite

>implying that only atheists believe in evolution
>implying that all atheists believe in evolution
>implying that evolution happens by chance
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>>70330005
I wish I could wipe my memory of the last 2 minutes and experience this fucking fantastic post for the first time again
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>>70330172
>A FUCKING LEAF
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>>70330327
Fact is they already had those vein-looking things on their wings. If you recall, all insects have them. The process was fully incremental and basically was
>turn green
>become less streamlined and more edgy
>shuffle your vein-looking thingies to look more and more like a leaf
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>>70331375
>toothpaste
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>>70330558
awww did someone's safe space get too cluttered?

haha stupid fucking niggers the lot of you ameritards.
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>>70331072

>nitpicking

Face it, there is no grand purpose so all these processes that govern evolution and the likes might as well "have just happened"

All of you believe in a meaningless universe
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>>70330639
You this fucking stupid nigger tank?

Evolution is far more widely accepted in Canada than the US and its snake fucking, gay prostitute fucking, crystal meth snorting evangelitards
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The burger prepares to post something clever. He slams his fat fingers into the keyboard, squinting at the letters because 50 chins block his FOV.

He begins furiously typing, the keys rattle with each press. But he cannot make any legible sense because thoughts of McDonald's, his sister's vagina and 9/11 (nevar 4get) keep popping into his head. He manages to string a few nonsensical words together, he hits post. Suddenly, his heart begins to fill with pride at the American education system. They taught him to finish a sentence.

He stands up, knocking over a gallon of diet coke, and raises his hand to his man boobs. Soft trumpets play in the background as he whispers "Murica!" with teary eyes.

Tragically his heart gives way to such undue stress of standing up. He tumbles to the ground with a loud splat, struggling to breath. The life slowly leaves his beady eyes...

And this is the story of a proud, red white and blue Murican! Dog bless USA.
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>>70330160
Atheist too stupid to understand God can create creatures that evolve
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>>70330172
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
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>>70331541
at least toothpase is good for you teeth.
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>>70329911
a leaf on a leaf by a leaf
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>>70330388
Atheists do not believe in God, changing the word order is inaccurate and shows that you do not have a good grasp of the English language. I do not speak for other atheists but personally I don't simply just believe in evolution, I accept the evidence that the scientific method tells us about nature; which is constantly under scrutiny and revision.
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People reject the concept of evolution because have no grasp of time beyond their relative experience. Life is a virus, how that virus came to be is still a question unanswered, but leaves existed far before before that insect came to look like them, long before insects existed.
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>>70330172
Least scathing bantz I have ever read. I hope for your sake that was copy pasta.
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>>70329911
God created dinosaur bones and other galaxies to test our faith tier post.
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>>70330018


What about that snake with the spider looking tail, pure coincidence I assume?
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>>70330327
>weird bug look a lil like leaf
>survival chance increases 0.000001%
>luckily it survives and has babies
>babies have same resemblance but a lil bit different, possibly more like leaf
>slightly increased chance to survive
>statistics means they do largely do better
>repeatX1,000,000
>you have leaf looking bug
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>>70329911
I slipped on a banana peel(the perfectly hand to mouth shaped fruit "God" created) and fell erect penis first into my gf. I can't believe it actually happened by chance.
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>canadians exist
and that's how god isn't real
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>>70330018

That tree from java that has flying seeds, and the one in north America with the spiral glider seeds.

Muh fractals
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>>70330362
I think evolution is guided by God with more than just natural selection
Feels to me like there's too much chance involved in it for it to be as successful as it is
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>>70331962
flying fish.

what made the fish jump out of the water and coast on the air?
it wasn't for food or mating but for some other inspiring behavior.

However, there isn't a progression of species that lead to the flying fish. In the fossil record there isnt multiitude of species with varying fin lengths for the flying fish to evolve from. there was just always one flying fish and no still no logical reason for it to fly.
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No. We do not believe this was by chance.
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It is called evolution
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>>70329911
It didn't happen by chance, all the bugs that didn't look like a fucking leaf got fucking eaten and only this fucking leaf bug was fucking left

>>70330005
best post ever
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>>70329911
>theists believed that god intended this to happen

So much for 'intelligent design.'
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>>70331587

>Face it, there is no grand purpose so all these processes that govern evolution and the likes might as well "have just happened"

Chance is not the same as purpose. The laws of probability exist even when you don't think the action has a purpose.
And OP was specifically talking about chance, not purpose.
He was wrong, you are wrong

>All of you believe in a meaningless universe

So you believe in a god, who gives everyone a purpose?
And god's purpose for you was to browse pol? Nice work, godfag. Keep up the good browsing.
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>>70330172
Nice bai-
>checks flag

>A
>MOTHER
>FUCKING
>LEAF
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>>70329911
>theists believe some old dude with a beard created this for fun
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>>70332756
you fucking retard. it's to escape from predators ie larger fish.
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>>70332881
if God intentionally created this, God is genuinely fucking demented
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>>70329911
>Atheists actually believe this happened by chance

Natural selection is not "by chance". Go read a book, you inbred turdmuffin.
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>>70332756
It's a fallacy that evolution will lead to "progress"

It is just a series of causes and circumstances, we cannot account for the all the things that would have been dominant species had they not been exposed to natural disasters, outbreak of disease, etc.

Life gives to itself, then takes back from itself. The Lord does fuck all. It's one, constantly expanding force trying to become one with itself, consuming itself. We are one with the fucking planet.
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>>70329911

>>70332782
> a fucking leaf
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>>70332920
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

Try again monsieur fedora
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>>70330172
Is this supposed to be derogatory?
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>>70329911
>Christians know a wizard did it - and that wizard is going to torture you forever after you die because a rib-woman gave a magic apple to a dirt-man after being tricked by a talking snake.
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>>70332231
Back to Syria, Muhammad.
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>>70330005
Ya blew it.
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>>70333315
. FEDORA .
F E D O R A
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>>70333460
Nice counter-argument
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>>70333460
>>70333576
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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>>70329911
>bugs could not learn to stand on leaves without God telling them how
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>>70333576
PAY TAXES
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No wonder you people have to use the fedora meme so much. you're fucking retards.
Evolution is a proven fact and every counter argument against it in this thread is just a sjw muh feels bullshit fest.

go to god.
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>>70333212

Nice wikipedia link, here's one for you:

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario
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>>70333756
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>>70330018
>Can't figure out there is a God.
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>>70330172
It's a fucking leaf.
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>>70330172
that hurt to read
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>>70330625
Patterns emerge from design. Designs come from designers.
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>>70333808
>a fucking bong
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>>70331698
Zealot too insecure to stand by beliefs, has to adjust them as science proves them wrong.

Just keep moving those goalposts, buddy.
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>>70333756
>Evolution is a proven fact

What is evolution?
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>>70333956
Science is always proven wrong.
People still believe it.
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>>70333932
jayden smith please go.
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>>70330172
dog bless x-DDD
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>>70334015

Paintings infer painters. Buildings infer builders. Creation infers a Creator.
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>>70333973
change of an organisms over a long period of time and many generations.
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If you're not Christian you're not redpilled.

If you were redpilled you would know that Christianity is the most important thing to our society and culture.
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>>70334082
Yup. Micro-evolution. Proven fact.

Macro-evolution. False Mother Earth religion.
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>>70330172
A FUCKING LEAF
>A FUCKING LEAF
A FUCKING LEAF
>A FUCKING LEAF
A FUCKING LEAF
>A FUCKING LEAF
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>>70334105
Yup. Still just a fucking leaf though.
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>>70333941
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>>70334077
ok, then prove your god didn't explode into non existence upon creating everything.
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>>70332373
Positive mutations are so rare and random it's impossible.
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>>70330005
haha
>>70329911
oh wow
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>>70334160
>4,000 religions
>mine is the only one that's right
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>>70334014
Science proves itself wrong all the time in the name of advancement and better understanding.

Religion tries to justify their beliefs despite evidence to the contrary, eventually adjusting said beliefs to stay relevant.
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>>70331698
Religious person too dumb to realize the Higgs Field is God.
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>>70334283
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I'ts a bug. No it's a leaf. No it's a bug. Nature you so crazy.
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>>70334168

Jesus rose from the dead.
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>>70333756
Evolution has never been proven or observed.
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>>70334286
Yes, we agree that science is always wrong. Guess what? The idea that science is closing in on the truth is also wrong.

I don't advocate any religions. Just a reunion with the Creator, one-on-one, just as intended.
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You don't see many missing link fossils because you don't see many fossils. It's a freak accident that they are even created because the circumstances involved are very rare.
If all of the dead animals over the past 500,000,000 years were fossils you would see them everywhere you look.
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>>70333315
>not wanting to be tortured by someone who loves you
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>>70330172
Damn, leafs can't take the bantz.
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>>70334316
yeah it's a false flag fag, i get it.
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>>70334448
Leafs are pretty thin skinned.
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>>70334354
he isn't your god dingus, he's the son of god.
and no, that isn't what I asked you to prove.
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>>70330172
make like your flag and leaf
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>>70334484
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>>70329911
>>70330172
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>>70329911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOLAGYmUQV0
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>>70332518
Muh Vsause
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>>70334429
The idea that religion is some unequivocal truth and not a means of population control that has changed shape over the eons is a hilarious fantasy. Science may never discover the truth but that doesn't mean the truth is god.
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>>70334538
Kind begets kind.

God begets God.

Saying He's the Son of God means He's God.
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>>70334398
actually it has.
looking for one instance i found another 2 hadn't seen.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1308772/Evolution-action-Scientists-discover-lizards-verge-leap-egg-laying-live-births.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080421-lizard-evolution.html
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>>70330005
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>>70334542
underrated post
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I always thought access to better education and a wide spectrum of knowledge would make people more aware of scientific reasoning. You do not necessarily have to be an atheist to see why natural selection makes sense.

So why do so many people in western countries still not understand scientific principles? That is third world tier man!
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>>70334443
Yandere>tsundere
I want to slowly kill all tsundere cunts.
>pic related
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>>70334643
The idea that Jesus is not the Truth is a hilarious fantasy that ends badly.
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>>70329911
muh 10^8 years feelerino
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>>70334708
It's not the misunderstanding of scientific principles; it's the misapplying of scientific principles to matters that do not concern science.
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>>70334744
Stay delusional and enjoy the empty void that awaits everyone in death.
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>>70329911
>>70330172
>>70331648
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>>70334125
Macroeconomies don't exist.
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>>70334398
>Evolution has never been proven or observed.

Stop repeating this meme, Abdul.
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>>70334814
Repent and be saved, for the end is nigh.
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>>70330172
>all these asspained ameritubbies
good post. MCGA
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>>70334827
Economy and Evolution is the same thing.
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>>70334893
>MCGA
>Again

Are you petitioning to rejoin the British Empire?
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>>70334125
>that false dichotomy

>Mother Earth religion
don't even get me started on the fucking ridiculous gaia "theory"
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>>70334894
I used to be a Trumptheist but after reading these backwards ass ramblings of a stockholm syndrome victim I am now a #cruzmissile.
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>>70331987
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>>70334708
School teaches science facts rather than skeptical inquiry/scientific method.
Someone who understand scientific reasoning in this day and age would become an atheist.

People who don't understand skeptical inquiry would only use skeptical inquiry when it doesn't concern their religion, like >>70334812.
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>>70334580
I can't wait until Islam purges leafistan of degeneracy.
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>>70330160
No you implying it makes you stupid without evidence.
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>>70335020
It's what you're left with when you deny God.
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>>70335081
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>>70335081
>Look, my chains are red white and blue now!

Kek.
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>>70335056
Lose with Cruz!

Yeah, I don't see the appeal.
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>>70329911

You're gonna love this one.
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what if i believe in God but i don't believe any religion ? i believe in higher power, but i don't like being told what to do.
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>>70335116
Correct. Science has no place in things that cannot be observed, measured, tested, repeated, etc.

Literally by definition.
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>>70334997
no we don't want to join the Muslim Caliphate
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>>70330172
Based Canadabro
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>>70335081
>so patriotic she covers herself head to toe in the flag
g-d bless the us
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>>70335202
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>>70335245
The diversity of life is truly astonishing.
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>>70334430
Even so we have hundreds of transitional form fossils. Creationists like to put fingers in their ears
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>>70335200
>It's what you're left with when you deny God.

No, that would be rationality, reason and logic. :)
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>>70334242
Except is possible because it already happened, we're all living it.
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>>70335253
Then you're a deist, same as the devil. The devil knows there is a God, and doesn't worship Him.
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>>70335245
REEEEEEEEEEEEE THE DEVIL DID IT!

ANYONE SAYING THATS A PRODUCT OF GOD SHOULD BE PIKED
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>>70335294
Anything that can't be observed, measured, tested or repeated cannot be treated as facts, and should not be used to guide a person's way of life in any way.
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>>70329911
Yeah it was like all the DNA components just magically arranged themselves without any process.

Obviously an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient entity created it. Makes much more sense than an alternative like evolution through natural selection.
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>>70330422
Just because the earth existed for a long time doesn't prove that evolution is true or that it could have your actually expressing doubt.
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>>70330172
was pretty good mate

I endorse this post
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>>70329911
>chance

nice meme, leaf
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>>70330491
What about being a man and making your life accomplished?
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>>70330160

Because God can only be behind magic, not science.
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>>70329911
and you believe a space jew made everything. he must like poo because everything he made poos
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>>70335253
I feel the same way. Religion is retarded.

But so is thinking that everything in existence just happened out of random chance and is completely meaningless. It defies intuition. It defies human nature.
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>>70335345
I'm not saying we don't have them my friend.
but out of millions upon billions of the transitional phases it's a shame we can't find more and a blessing we have as many as we do.
no pun intended
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>>70334125
>I can walk from New York City to Philadelphia in a relatively short time
>I can't walk from New York City to Los Angeles in a relatively long time
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>>70330639
also a fucking leaf... i blame america for not annexing canada, and letting 4chan suffer from leafposting

Pure wisdom
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>>70330172
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>>70335378
That's not exactly true. You can believe in God and believe he is great, but reject your stupid Christianity fairy tale bullshit.
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>>70335345
None, actually. Redefining what "transitional" means doesn't produce fossils showing transitions from one kind to another.

Your blind faith in Darwin is misplaced. Did you know he only had a degree in Theology?
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>>70335386
That's Scientism, not Science.
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>>70335338
http://www.heavy-r.com/video/112277/French_Canadian_Poutine_With_Fries/
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>>70330172
is this supposed to be good banter
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>>70335519

Walking is Evolution.
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>>70335378
yes but the devil is against God. i'm not. i just want to live, i don't want to live through a complicated emotional process of accepting a religion.
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>>70335380

I don't know what reaction I was expecting, anon.

But, fuck me. My sides.

Thank you!
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>>70335576

Not according to Jesus, Who is God. You can try, though, and pay the price. I wouldn't recommend it.
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>>70335394
this guy gets it
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>>70335609
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>>70335649
Christianity is just believing the truth. Jesus really is God, and He really did rise from the dead.

You can say and believe that, and the rest you can leave up to Him.
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In the past 150 years humanity has discovered and catagorized thousands of species that lived millions of years ago, people still won't let go of their religions because that is what most of their cultural foundations are based upon

keep the culture and pick up a fucking book besides the bible.
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>>70335253
So what about the opposite of this?
I think Christianity is valuable as an institution, but I can't bring myself to believe in the supernatural aspects like literal resurrection.

Am I just a faggot?
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>>70334312
>Higgs Field
To dumb to know that its a theory!
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>>70329911
XDDDDDDDDDDDD
great thread! nice 200 replies!
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>>70335650
REEEEEE HE CAN SEE LIKE 16,000 TIMES MORE COLOR THAN US.

DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL!
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Till this day

>no proof for evolution
>atheists basically believe in God and don't realize it
>everything happened by chance! Something came from nothing!
>asks for evidence, has none.


>I choose to be atheist, because i don't like the fact that I might have to answer to someone or something!
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>>70335629
Yeah
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>>70335743
Impossible to do on a 6000 year old planet. Nice try though. You almost had me.
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>>70329911
Greatest proof God is real is that the earth is flat which is why satan lucifer and his minions guard that secret the most of all.

http://youtu.be/Lfkta0IT26w
>NASA insider admits hoax
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>>70334242

Random yes. Rare no.

There are literally millions of species of plants and animals that have developed mechanics that help them survive in a very specific environment.
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>>70335777
To dumb to know what a theory is in science!
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>>70335773
You're a prime Catholic.
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>>70330172
LEAF this place
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>>70335737
>faithfully following the instructions of a Jew to the letter
wew lad
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>>70335798
can you see
>>70334675
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>>70335815
God's creation is indeed robust.
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>>70335798
>repeating old memes
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>>70335830
"Too"
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>>70335875
The instructions are pretty easy. Believe. Trust. Walk. Rest. Abide.
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>>70330172

is this a new pasta ? saved.
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>>70335202
lol this is great 10/10
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>>70335245
>>70335339
>>70335380
>>70335650

This one is lovely, too.
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>>70335911
>a typo will disprove his argument, r-right?
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>lel weird looking life
>obviously magic mysterious god made
source: ancient book

shut isn't it weird people knew so much about EVERYTHING before
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Daily reminder that god is a nigger in the most literal sense.
>prone to violence
>only worked for 6 days in his whole life
>knocked up a woman and then left her, more or less cucking the husband
>you are only cool in his eyes if you belong to his gang
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>>70335890
I'm going to guess you're trolling from work.
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>>70335202
flag.store.fire
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What's going to happen in the religious world when life, especially intelligent life, is discovered on other planets?
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>>70330018
Out of curiously what does o Chem have to do with this little guy?
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>>70335959
I am soooo happy those things are not 20 feet tall.
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>>70335534

what is going on here
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>>70335812

> NOT using THE definitive version.

You are unholy and shall burn for Eternity.
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>>70335972

ill call him ignurant, thats wut ill do!
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>>70336001
Solid guess.
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>>70336034
complete anal annihilation.
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>>70334398
If evolution didn't/doesn't exist then we would all look the same
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>>70335812
>flat earth
This anon knows what's up, bible says earth was flat and lucifer the devil try and deceive mankind

The ultimate red pill
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>>70336034
Same as now. We're going to tell you that you're being deceived by interdimensional aliens hoaxing to be extraterrestrial aliens.

All Marian apparitions are demonic.
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>>70336034
>implying that will ever happen
Earth was a fluke.
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>>70336159
And God apparently did not want that to happen.
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How are dog breeds and selective breeding not proof of evolution?
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>>70336087
>resorting to shitposting when you can't come up with an argument
nice going
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>>70336034
Because we never will.
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>>70330172
Those angry yanks means your post is good. Good job, leafy.
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>>70336034

(A) WAR KILL IT WITH FIRE REEEEE MUH NARRATIVE

(B) Revisionism and back peddling like never seen before in the history of history in order for religions to keep their power

(C) Continuation of the bible (or whatever text)

(D) Lie
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>>70335798
>might

Until it's proved I'm not going to live my life on a "might"
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>>70335812
So true.

Do not get fooled by NASA

Masons illuminati the kikes

http://youtu.be/1HVzMpx5mnw

Flat earth is the truth
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>>70336069
>even in his portrait Ferguson looks like a complete nutter
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>>70329911
>by chance
>thinking genomes and traits being passed on is chance and not survival and adaptation
>thinking magic cloud man made anything
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>>70336058

Even if those things were 3 feet tall they would be dangerous as all fuck. Mantids are just about the most evolved ambush hunter in the history of creatures that have ever crawled upon this Earth.

God damned things have been perfecting themselves for something like 200 million years now.
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>>70335737
nice try but no i'm not converting to any religion. being religious is more than just believing. it's also about lifestyle changing, which i'm "allergic" to.
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>>70335812
New thread theme

http://youtu.be/Mk9a2wBKds4
Dedicated to NASA trickery and science community scam artists

God is red pill do not let the evil one lead you sheep astray
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>>70334398
Yes, it has.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment#Evolution_of_aerobic_citrate_usage_in_one_population
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>>70336049
More complex molecules can be created with heat and lightning.
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>>70334398
Dog breeding.
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Such bait faggot. What are the chances of my witnessing this baithook given the vastness of the internet.

You and me, out of billions.. this very moment.

I think Jesus just ran his finger up my ass pleat
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>>70336328
Didn't the Vatican hold like a conference where they debated about this, and the answer they came up with was that alien life wouldn't invalidate anything about the Bible and they'd be happy to convert them?
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>>70336371

Is the 87-million-year-old praying mantis recently found encased in amber in Japan a “missing link” between mantises from the Cretaceous period and modern-day insects?

It is a rare find indeed and its true significance is still to be deciphered.

Discovered in January of this year by Kazuhisa Sasaki, director of the Kuji Amber Museum, the fossil mantis measures 0.5 inch (1.4 centimeters) from its antennae to the tip of its abdomen.

It was found buried more than six feet below the surface of an amber mine in a part of Japan that is famous for producing large amounts of amber, the northeastern Iwate Prefecture.

“I found it in a deposit that had lots of other insects (ancient flies, bees, and cockroaches) but this was the only praying mantis” said Sasaki.

The fossil mantis is partially well preserved, although its wings and abdomen are badly crushed.

According to Kyoichiro Ueda, executive curator of the Kitakyushu Museum of Natural History, it is the oldest mantis fossil ever found in Japan and only one of seven in the entire world from the Cretaceous Period.

Even more unique is the fact that this mantis is different from the other six, in that it has two spines protruding from its femur and it has mysterious, tiny hairs on its forelegs.

No mantis from this particular time period has ever been found with spines, although modern mantises have five or six on their forelegs, which help them catch prey.

“The years of the late Cretaceous period were a kind of transition phase between the ancient and modern worlds, and this fossil displays many intermediate elements between the two eras” said Ueda.

Time alone will reveal the significance of this important find.
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>>70336470
> heat and lightning

Satan's primary tools. Don't even start in on radiation and graviton waves.
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>>70330172
I thought Canada had lost all hope, however this post might just save a nation.
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>>70335338

looks bretty gud 2bh
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>>70336334
Great video

NWO exposed do not believe the lies the earth is flat
http://youtu.be/nTOE4Ar0Dfo
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So what's the main alternative to evolution? Jewish creation according to Genesis?
Even though it contradicts itself and tells 2 different versions of almost every story it contains?
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>People still believe in evolution.
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>>70336589
Literally lies planted by the Evil One to fool you.

That moment when the "evidence" seems persuasive? Literally Satan planting doubt in your heart.
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>>70336597
...holy shit, you're right
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>>70335667
Wow. I'm literally saying that God exists, but your Christian God (as well as Jesus) is a fucking fairy tale.
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>>70336802
Jesus existed tho
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>>70335777
>he doesn't know what a theory means in a scientific context

Tip: when scientists attempt to interpret something and come up with an explanation that fits the data they have, it's called a hypothesis. Next the scientists gather more data and empirical evidence to test their hypothesis and if the data and the testing support that hypothesis, and it leaves no doubt the hypothesis is true, then it becomes a theory. A hypothesis only becomes a theory when the data available and the tests carried out all point towards that hypothesis being the most accurate way to explain a phenomenon.

Scientists are very reluctant to state something as a fact, but a theory is the damn closest thing.
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>>70336468
>implying he'll understand (or even read) that
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>>70336848
Prove it
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>>70329911
Ok this is the perfect thread to ask this. I have wanted to ask a biologist but I know none and the internet is not helpful.

See things like a bug looking like a leaf I can get. Bugs who look leafyer from random mutation survive better and pass down their superior genes and more bugs look like them. This keeps getting better and better.

Here is what I don't get. Shit like these three.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_LIz7kTok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKjBIBBAL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsmxs0uDXMo
http://www.livescience.com/14706-ladybug-wasp-parasite-protection.html

Now how in the ever loving fuck do traits like these show up? Like what made a wasp one day go: "Ima put my egg in that ladybug", then inside the ladybug the baby wakes up and is like, "I am gonna mind control this thing using chemicals."?

These things are just insane! Hell how did something randomly mutate so far that it could learn to fly?

Please I know jack shit. I would love to know the answer.
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One God faggots.

Not 1+1+1=3
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I think god might have set it in motion and just let it run wild. Evolution and god both exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsUW8JcnzZs&nohtml5=False
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Why did your fairy created this shit christians ?
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>>70336718
Actually one is the event itself, the second one is God recreating everything for Adam to see in the garden. (If you actually read the text instead of falling for lies, you'd know this.)
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>>70336909
I don't want to worship a God faggot.
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>>70336737
that's fine, i played like halfway through darksouls so i can handle it.
*unsheaths iaito*
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>>70330018
> fractals
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>>70336589

I'd have to google it up. I was semi-pulling 200 million out of my ass just as a round number for insects in general (as well as aquatic arthropods & arachnids), and the split between the Paleozoic and Mesozoic Eras is generally an easy boundary to remember. There was a massive Permian Extinction Event at about 250 million and there was a massive and rapid evolutionary explosion in critters following that, so unGodly numbers of weird shit was turning up by the fuckton up into the Cretaceous Period.
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>>70336971
Flies are good for eating up decaying things such as dead animals.
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>>70337106
i was just throwing out info i found when looking for a giant prehistoric prayingmantis
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>>70336893
>larva hatches
>due to some mutation it secretes very small amunts of that chemical
>small amount is still better than nothing, therefore it has a better chance at survival (& reproducing later)
>rinse & repeat for a few million years
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>>70336893
>Now how in the ever loving fuck do traits like these show up?

They're generated at random and turn out to be beneficial. It's just like with a lottery. If you have a 10 digit number, and write a program that can generate 10 digits numbers at random, at some point you're going to hit it, whether you know the number in advance or don't. Intelligence just speeds up the process, it's not necessary in survival. There's plenty of survival going on without any thought process whatsoever
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>>70336893
>Hell how did something randomly mutate so far that it could learn to fly?
You can be born with a membrane between your limbs that let's you fall slower from a tree. If it's useful you end up with a lot of kids with membranes. Some of your descendants might get better membranes and maybe even elongated fingers to make said membranes bigger. Now they can glide from tree to tree. The fingers grow, some of your descendants start to flap their arms around. They have wings now.
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>>70329911
IT'S ALL JUST RANDOM SHIT DUDE NO MEANING NOTHING MY LIFE IS EMPTY SO YOUR SHOULD BE TOO HAHAHAHAHA IM SO FUCKING SMART
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>>70337233

how come we got wisdom teeth still why hasnt evolution knocked that out?
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>>70337122
But before people eat the apple there was no death. Why would God create something that had no use in his world?
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>>70337258
>MY LIFE IS EMPTY
You need an imaginary friend for your life to have some meaning? Pathetic.
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Atheists believe in a fairy tale.

Long long ago, far far away a big bang happened for absolutely no reason, and absolutely everything came from nothing.
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>>70337388
No but if there's no point in life and nothing after death then life is meaningless. Whatever meaning you give your own life is also meaningless.
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>>70337377

Because apparently it's not necessary, especially not now, since no one will die from having wisdom teeth
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>>70337377
We are currently in process of losing them. It will just take a lot of time.
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>>70337466
>Whatever meaning you give your own life is also meaningless.
In the end yes, but there's nothing else you can do. Just accept the fact and don't be a little cunt about it.
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>>70337380
Because God knows everything and he knew they would eat the fruit.

Also Flies may have had a different purpose before the fall of man.
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I read the bible, even studied it to a degree. Honestly it's just not that compelling. It certainly isn't as an explanation of the physical world

The gospel is probably the least compelling of the abrahamic texts.
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>>70330005
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>>70335534
he's so lucky to see his butt that close, while he's grunting in pain.
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>>70337377
There is no negative selection fo it. Individuals with and without them have the same reproduction rate.

>>70337537
we'll go extinct before that happens, that long.
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>>70337582
If he knew that they will eat the apple why didn't he prevent it? When a parent knows his child will do something dumb he should do something about it.
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>>70337600
>even studied it to a degree
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>>70336893

Co-evolution explains most of the "complex as fuck" things, for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host%E2%80%93parasite_coevolution

Genetics are currently entering the simulation age, where we can use computers to fast forward millions of years, so we will understand these things much better in the future.
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>>70335959
While that's cool and all, I'm more interested in what weird fucking plant it's stood on.
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>>70330172
9/11
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>>70330172
The empirical proof you don't need good banter to catch a burger.
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>>70337377

Having wisdom teeth is not a negative trait in humans. It causes no biological disadvantage that might cause humans with wisdom teeth to produce offspring at a lower rate than humans without wisdom teeth.

With that said, humans are not the best example to use in debates about natural selection, since technological advances and modern medicine have reduced the impact that a lot of defects in humans might have otherwise had in reproduction.
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>>70337189

Was a really cool info find. Being a geologist, I always love bits like that that fill in the gaps.

Here's a mantis encased in Columbian amber. Didn't get a date with it, but it's probably "Jurassic sometime." Which would be over 100 million and maybe back near 200 ... I'd hazard a guess between 100 & 120. Just ass-pulling again, of course.

Amber-encased mantis' are exceptionally rare, so I get a bit chubb when I run across them.
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>>70337764
Sure, one must understand the original Greek and old testement references to make any sense of it. Also, the countless cultural euphamisms.
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>>70337541
Why would I accept something that I truly don't believe is true?

I'm being very honest with myself and I've thought about this in depth. I do reject the Jewish sand nigger religions. Life is most likely a wheel of infinity.
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>>70336468
keep is the first purple word.
something is the first blue word.

I win.
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>>70337600
The reason most people believe in God isn't because they read the Bible its because they have experienced something that is indescribable, the Bible gives the story of how and who God is and to what reason they may have experienced their connection with God. Ultimately God wants a relationship with everyone however you have to knock first. Just reading the Bible and studying it wont give you answers if your not willing to make a connection with God in the first place. If you really want to seek the truth of this world God will find a way for you to see.
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>>70334283
>100's of billions of people across all time periods and cultures have worshiped a creator.
>I'm right, every single one of them is wrong.
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>>70337789
It's probably the spadix of an Anthurium (or something like that)
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>>70336976
Even with covering your eyes and ears ignoring the different order of events in Genesis 1 and 2, you then end in a predicament where there would be two classes of people, Adam and his descendants and the rest of mankind referred to in Genesis 1 and later implicitly referenced in Genesis 4 when Cain marries and founds a settlement.
Then you again have to reconcile the differing descendent accounts of Adam's sons AND then again substantial differences in God's instructions to Noah immediately after in the two different flood stories.

It takes a lot of willfully ignoring or saying "BUT THAT IS JUST SYMBOLIC" which defeats any initial argument that Genesis is in any way literal.
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>>70337441
Let me enlighten you, and all of you christians here as well.

Christianity is just offshoot of pagan/egyptian astrological myths.
But there is GOD.
So lets start with "big bang"
This name is retarded, because there wasnt any beng, there just were universe and it stretched, it was "big stretch"
and as universe can stretch it can do it other way as well.
As alchemy states, and as i call it "law of + and -

There cant be + without - and - without +.
Same with dark and light.
Same with nothing and something.
So yeah there always WAS a universe.
And its infinite, indeed it is.
how ? as you can distance between 1cm and 2cm you can go to the middle (0,5) and you can do this forever go and go and go and go.
1 and 2 will be so far away from each others, and this is hwo universe stretch.
And this is so called OUROBOROS universe repeat itself, it streach and pull in stretch and pull it.
Does it strech to nothing? thats bullshit.
it strech to ITSELF
So universe is ultimate its everlasting and its infinite, does it sound familliar?
UNIVERSE=GOD
and as Alchemy states, "we are brothers of god"
indeed we are.
We are PART of the universe
We are the universe experiencing itself, because EVERYTHING is the universe.
we are the god, ot part of the god, as you like.
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>>70329911

Nothing happens by chance you goober. Ateists are stupid as fuck. You don't need to be religious to notice this.
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>>70337972
>Life is most likely a wheel of infinity.

That's just wishful thinking, because the alternative is too difficult to accept.
But I understand you. I sometimes also try to convince myself that maybe there's more after death, but that belief never lasts.
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I was watching a documentary yesterday called "Science PROVES God exists", so I decided to give it the benefit of doubt and watch it. And it was basically an hour and a half of "See that beautiful flower? That's GAWD. See that lightning? That's GAWD too. See those planets? GAWWWWWWWWWWWWWD"
No actual evidence etc
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>>70338272
>As alchemy states
How is your production of gold from iron going?
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>>70338021
"Did ye never read in the scriptures?" (Matthew 21:42).

Maybe they should.. jeebus said so
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>>70338036
>100's of billions of people across all time periods
>doing the same as some barbaric savages
sure. why improve at all? let's just fuck goats like mohamed & friends.
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>>70330172

With this many replies. You know you made a good post
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>>70338881
It's garbage banter tho
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>>70332016
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>>70339091

He's just looking for reactions and got em
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