WE DID IT
Look here how cucked your gemeente is
http://app.nos.nl/datavisualisatie/referendum-2016/
So what now, will Rutte suck more EU cock?
Will Pechtold finally commit sudoku?
>>70221693
sorry france, but your politicians, like your country are irrelevant
>>70221871
(You)
What does this mean?
>>70221693
>mfw nijmegen
>>70222007
We had a referendum on whether we want a trade treaty with the EU and subhuman slavs (read ukraine) or not.
We voted against with 61% and now our EU shills in the gub will have to deal with us bad goys
Utrecht
Voor 57,4%
Tegen 40,7%
Opkomst 30,8%
WELP
>>70222223
I'm glad my country hosts a bad sentiment against those 3rd world hohols.
On the other hand I'd rather have an immigration wave on hohols than roaches.
>>70222223
Damn..so close
>>70222374
Groot deel van die kanker studenten zijn liberaal. Ze volgen zelfs het stemadvies van die oetlul van een klaveren.
Trots op twente.
In german TV yesterday they said that this referendum is pretty much useless cause the less amount of voters so politicans can use this for a tip in the best cause they dont must follow this
good job.
they are fucking mad.
"Falsches Spiel im Namen der Demokratie"
"Das "Nee" der Niederländer richtet sich nicht gegen das Ukraine-Abkommen, sondern gegen die EU: Rechtspopulisten haben das Referendum für ihre Zwecke instrumentalisiert."
>Foul play with democracy
>The "Nee" in the case of the Ukraine treaty is aimed at the EU. Right wing populists used the vote for their own cause.
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2016-04/niederlande-ukraine-eu-referendum-abstimmung
Leftists only love democracy to get into power and when it works for them.
>>70223193
>The "Nee" in the case of the Ukraine treaty is aimed at the EU. Right wing populists used the vote for their own cause.
Also true though
>>70221693
Geert will rule the world. /pol/ is always right.
>>70223193
>Right wing populists
Fucking lmao these cucks don't even know what they're talking about
Feed me more Germoney tears please
>>70223193
>The "Nee" in the case of the Ukraine treaty is aimed at the EU. Right wing populists used the vote for their own cause.
But that's literally democracy. Democracy allows the population to vote, and the population consists of left-wingers, non-voters and right-wingers.
Are they saying that right-wingers shouldn't be allowed to vote at all? Jesus Christ, they're getting desperate.
Don't let the hohols in, they're even more third world than Eastern Europe. Their living standards are Africa tier. I remember a map with each country's average salary from like 2013, Slovenia and Czech Rep. were leading with ~1000€, Baltics were 600-800€. Ukraine was 200 fucking euros.
Welp here we go
>Europese Commissie: 'nee' heeft voorlopig geen invloed op Oekraïne-verdrag
>De afwijzing van het Oekraïne-verdrag heeft voorlopig geen gevolgen voor de uitvoering van het akkoord. Dat heeft een woordvoerder van de Europese Commissie in Brussel verklaard.
>Het associatieverdrag treedt in werking als alle EU-landen hebben geratificeerd. Nederland heeft dat als enige land niet gedaan, maar toch zijn al grote delen van het verdrag in werking. Officieel heet dat ‘voorlopig toegepast’. Dit is een gebruikelijke procedure die is vastgelegd in de EU-verdragen en het associatieverdrag
http://nos.nl/artikel/2097705-europese-commissie-nee-heeft-voorlopig-geen-invloed-op-oekraine-verdrag.html
>>70223298
In part. Seeing as how the treaty includes stuff like military cooperation and the possibility of financial aid, there's reason enough to vote "no" based on the treaty alone.
>>70223830
Does this mean that the referendum was useless? That they'll go ahead with their schemes anyways and that the referendum was just a circus to demonstrate muh democracy?
What the fuck.
Jonge student hier, heb lekker tegen gestemd
Niet heel ontevreden over m'n stad, blijkbaar is de invloed van Amsterdam niet zo enorm groot op ons :)
>>70223193
>The "Nee" in the case of the Ukraine treaty is aimed at the EU. Right wing populists used the vote for their own cause.
>it's not democracy unless it fits my agenda
>>70224048
Technically, yes.
But in practice, no. Since our government relies on opposition parties in one of the two houses, they cannot ratify the treaty without opposition support. Moreover, there are general elections next year; ignoring the referendum is effectively political suicide.
>In Arnhem bracht 27,6 procent van de stemgerechtigden een stem uit. 44,3 procent stemde voor, 54,7 procent stemde tegen.
Feels like it could be a lot better desu
>>70224048
yep
>>70224090
Hoge opkomst
>>70221693
>http://app.nos.nl/datavisualisatie/referendum-2016/
vergelijk deze lijst met de lijst rijkste gemeentes.
>>Rozendaal
>>Bloemendaal
>>Vught
>>de Bilt
Man man man man kansloos dit
>>70222595
K I N D A R A R E
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A
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A
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I was conflicted but decided to go for no. I think the treaty will pass anyway but now they will have to be more critical about some areas where they generally tend to be lenient (financial assistance f.e.). The emotional blackmailing was like a fuck you to my face and cemented my position. Curious if the TTIP referendum will go through.
>>70221693
>tfw geen cheap labor voor je bedrijf
>>70224883
wollah huur gewoon wat mo's in, je weet toch
>>70224976
Te dom
>>70221693
Cyka blya this is another Zrada
THE FIRE RISES
Hopefully my country will vote against the EU soon as well, not sure if we actually will though.
RIP Democracy :'(
Post a kanker F in this thread to pay respects to democracy.
KANKER
A
N
KANKER
E
R
Duthpals if Geert wins will he take away your drugs?
>>70226019
Only edgy kids and hippies use drugs here, le epic weed xDD is mostly a tourist bait.
A fairly successful one I might add.
So, what do you think is going to happen? Will EU actually take Dutch monies and give it to Ukraine, or they will just ransack Ukraine and then shove it back into Russian hands saying "plz fix"?
>>70226000
pls check trips
>>70226153
But will he take them away?
>>70226253
They'll talk about it, give our country some opt-outs, and will continue as planned probably.
EU doesn't care about what its people think, several countries voted against the EU constitution in 2005 and they introduced it 4 years later anyway under a different name. Those rats don't take no for an answer.
>>70226616
Not really, Coffeeshops will just not be allowed 100 meters from secondary schools anymore.
Netjes
>>70227335
change that to a 1000 meter actually.
>>70222595
Your flag is so stupid.
>>70226153
Here we have someone who lives in autismland, where he needs broad generalizations to ''function''
>>70223193
>socialistic party (SP) is against the treaty
>right wing populist
Cool buzzwords.
>>70223193
So far I've seen at least these arguments among damage control:
-the low amount of people voting means that the results shouldn't be taken seriously
-those who voted for "no" represent only 0,006% of the electorate of EU
-the vote is non-binding and the only actual outcome of it was that Dutch revealed themselves to be "daft pricks"
-referendums aren't necessarily good because Hitler used them too
>>70226019
Nah, fighting drugs only makes it more profitable. Just cut off people on drugs from welfare, eventually it'll solve itself.
>>70227576
>PvdD
>SP
>VNL
>PVV
2 right wing, 2 lefties
How do these people get to work for such a big newspaper?
Based Rotterdammerts
>>70227682
>-the low amount of people voting means that the results shouldn't be taken seriously
The saddest one, considering some people who were for the referendum chose to not vote instead, to try and get it invalidated that way.
>>70222595
did a dog attack your flag and rip it to shreds or something
>Yes voters
Real intellectuals lmao
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2016/04/jastemmer_heeft_boodschap_voor.html
>>70227726
I think it's great, it shows their incompetence and childishness. They're basically offending everyone who voted against now and show the people who voted yes what kind of retards they're "with"
>>70227478
Says the guy who's country modeled their flag after toothpaste
>>70227772
You're welcome. Shame about the low opkomst.
>>70227726
VNL is klassiek liberaal doe
>>70228020
If you're going with the right/left thing they're right, let's not have this shitty discussion again.
>>70227940
Mighty talk for someone who has mattress for flag
>>70227940
>He had to change his flag a dozen times
Great heritage where you cant even honour the same flag for more than 20 years.
>>70223193
>falsches spiel im namen der demokratie
ITS NOT DEMOCRATIC IF ITS ANTI-EU GOYIM
>>70228083
yeah true.
He is gewoon zo kut aangezien in murica liberal = links en liberaal = libertarian
ze kunnen weer eens niet normaal doen.
>>70227918
VVEEERTIGH MMILJOEN
Fucking hell.
>>70227772
>based
>not even 30% people showed up
Sorry man even though the for and against ratio is pretty based this doesn't make the city based.
>>70224550
I noticed that the higher the YES, the higher the turnout.
The city's with a green majority i zoomed in on all had well over 30%
>>70224048
its not its just more fuel on the fire for all far right parties in the eu, farage will use this in his speeches that democracy does not exist
>>70224048
Our gub has to deal with us, but the EU will just push it through "temporarily"
>>70226153
>Only edgy kids and hippies use drugs here, le epic weed xDD is mostly a tourist bait
Being anti weed is the new edgy now that it's been normalized. So basically normal people smoke weed there is what you mean.
>>70228320
but 80 million is fine for some cucked painting shared with France.
Also, Plascuck estimated 24 million
EU would never be falling apart if they hadn't started started mucking about in Syria and Ukraine
They're overextended
>Leeuwarden
>58% tegen
Feels good mayne
>>70229712
America sticked their dick in Libya and Syria, thanks for that, ally.
>>70229817
America also stuck their dick in Ukraine
>>70229712
yes they would. EU is just an expanded market for Germany and France. There is no real benefit for other countries who joined (which shows on GDP of EU members in the last decade)
>>70229817
Glad to help
>>70222776
>>70222374
Every city with a big university (Wageningen, Leiden, Amsterdam) turned out to be voting mostly for.
Having studied at university of Amsterdam I'm yet to meet someone who is in favour of Wilders or even SP. Students are the worst people out there to be completely honest. I absolutely hate students.
I find it strange that I seem to be the only one hating students and their attitudes in general.
>>70222374
Wat doe je dan ook in dat linkse kankerhol?
>>70222776
>liberaal
In Nederland betekent dat de VVD, jij halve Yank.
>>70223830
Was wel te verwachten.
>>70230198
>Students are the worst people out there to be completely honest. I absolutely hate students.
true, but you go through lots of brainwashing during college.
I dont know how many time my professors praised swedish social and government model (back in 2008-2012). I even started parroting it myself until i mistakenly opened /pol..
>>70227879
>>70227682
It's retarded to call it invalid because ''muh low number'', more people voted for this referendum than for the EU elections for fucks sake.
Does that mean we send everyone currently sitting in EU parliament home and hold an election that has a minimum of over 50% turnout otherwise not take the result seriously (so the current members get the boot!?).
OF COURSE NOT.
These people try to do everything, they are huge hypocrites. This is why it is an absolute must to get rid of the EU all together.
> Muh Hitler
Of course, Stalinn would be far more appropiate. No voting needed, the party takes care of everything! Wet dream of PvdA. Fuck the people in that party, they deserve to suffer immensely for their structural crimes against the Netherlands instead of a high salary and a good function after their political career.
>>70227682
>>70230493
There is also, "no voters are dumb, democracy sucks", "the issue is too complicated for dumb people"
But somehow these people do not hypocrisy that this is what democracy is based on, pandering to dumb people. The whole campaign period is basically handing out gifts to buy votes and now suddenly this makes people unfit to vote?
I'm willing to bet the voters were more well-read about this issue than the general elections.
>>70229712
>those percentages
>>70230493
>more people voted for this referendum than for the EU elections for fucks sake.
Not quite. The last EU elections managed 37%.
They don't like this, they don't like that
They're never satisfied and that's a fact
They more we give, the more they take
The more we fix, the more they break
The country's in an awful mess
With a whole lotta civil unrest
I got one thing to suggest
They outta leave, and get gone
Gather up all the niggers
And go back home
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
Where they belong
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
They oughta get the hell out of America
And leave the white man alone
They want their way, it ain't no doubt
They just keep pushin', they never stop
They don't like the way things are done
They outta go back to where they come from
So white people I'm askin' you
Let's buy us a boat or two
And here's what we need to do
Help 'em pack, and be kind
Make sure we don't leave
One nigger behind
>>70230841
It's from ddrjake's EU4 world conquest. He's an absolute madman
>there were still people who thought that democracy was a real thing in the age of current years.
we are all doomed, there is no democracy, no day of the rope, nothing. let's hope that planet IX kills us all.
>>70228111
Nobody asked the fag (You)
>>70229817
I thought Libya was mostly because France wanted it
>>70231845
Your future president Clinton was really big on it.
>>70228149
We've had this flag since 1949 and every new version of it is simply adding stars.
Meanwhile, while drafting the flag of the EU in the 50's, the first suggestion had a cross on it but Turkey wouldn't allow that (because Turkey is Europe); someone then thought to add a crescent to the flag to be accepting of Islam, but quite fortunately that was denied. The final draft, and the version we see now, is based on doomsday prophecy.
>>70221693
What's this about?
>>70230198
>Maastricht
>61% against
Glad my university isn't cucked.
We even told sandniggers from Saudi to no longer come to our university because they're rude, lazy, and retarded.
>>70232834
Ukraine association agreement.
NL was able to get a referendum, we voted against.
Government pissed because they wanted a yes.
Political suicide if they ignore the public (parliamentary votes in under a year, gov coalition weak, right on the rise).
tl;dr People caused butthurt, politicians complaining people didn't do as they were told.
>>70233156
Nice.
>meme parties only ones against
>meme populists sway vote to no
Democracy is too much responsibility for the Dutch plebs, have some work to do before we can become like Switserland.
>>70232986
>Checking my hometown
>75% against
>>70233296
>Being a left-wing EU cuck
Enjoy getting raped by rapefugees, cuck
>>70233296
All the other parties (except D66) deliberately ignored the referendum to sabotage it, mate.
The ones who "swayed the vote" were those morons who advised the "yes voters" to stay home.
>>70230931
Really? Well sorry I was wrong then I thought the turn out was only 27%, I was off quite a bit then.
>>70230474
I'm studying a STEM degree and I have a dr who does a lot of stuff regarding data for PvdA. The indoctrination is not even there, the students are already that way from high school. I guess if you study sociology it's still very present though.
>>70233459
I would gladly vote against less refugees
>>70233489
Polls showed that 60 against vs 40 for is pretty much the general opinion. For-voters staying home didn't have that big of an effect on the outcome.
>>70233490
Indoctrination begins at middle school m8
All the left-wing cucks with useless degrees end up there as teachers.
>>70222374
>dvw je in een groenlinks/d66 cuckstad woont
>>70222776
>Ze volgen zelfs het stemadvies van die oetlul van een klaveren.
Bedoel je niet Klaver? Van Klaveren is van VNL en die voerden campagne voor een nee.
>>70221693
>hate Ukrainians
>love Moroccans, Libyans, Tunisians, Turks and other Middle Easterners
why?
>>70230198
It's funny, the student group I am in has a mix of tumlrinas who get literally triggered about some subjects, yet the other half keeps making jokes (and mostly at the tumblrinas expense) and statements often which wouldn't be out of place on /pol/.
>>70221693
Bravo Nederlands.
>>70228111
kek
>>70233784
>>70233490
>>70230474
>>70230198
>>70222776
middle schools fucks you up, my whole middle school the teacher tried to teach me about "tolerance" which was just forced acceptance and "muh eu" bullshit
My english teacher (female) desperately tried to convince us about the 'wage gap' (someone tried to correct her, she just ignored him, most people just accepted what she said...) and about three months were spent about feminism and shit, and to make it 'equal', to show she wasn't favoring women over men, she also showed some male opression in the form of homosexuals being opressed, which of course perfectly represents male opression or sufferings...fuck middle school bullshit
University of Utrecht hasn't got too much politics though, doing a STEM so that might be the reason why I haven't seen it.
Did see a poster about a debate (lead a moroccan/turk) on why the university needs diversity or some shit, absolute fucking cancer
>>70227682
>going full steam into Godwin's this hard
God she's pathetic.
>>70234134
i feel you
>>70234134
How do they manage to deal with one another? Do they ever get into big arguments? Just curious.
>>70234419
I did pol sci at UvA. Only feminist/SJW/cultural marxist/critical theory bull came from one Canadian lady teaching an elective on the 'politics of space'. For rest everyone and the courses were pretty based. One class on accountability and development I was one of two males with bout 18 females, I kept making slightly sexist jokes and never any offended people. Maybe things have gone bad quickly after I graduated.
![Cfb2oF-WEAAzkFQ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9j7yo95.jpg "Cfb2oF-WEAAzkFQ[1].jpg")
>JOVD
>>70234581
More like that most of the tumblrinas didn't qualify for the next year.
Which isn't much of a surprise when they get literally triggered by the content of the courses.
It did help too that the more politically incorrect students were also very smooth talkers.
>>70230749
http://www.wos.nl/-ook-hitler-hield-graag-referenda/nieuws/item?809114
Why should people get to discuss issues best left to the profiteer.. Err Politicians?
I'm surprised the PvdA still exist. Since last election they basically became Jeb Bush in the form of a party.
>>70235036
I swear the best campaign for voting Against is the way the In Favour camp keeps fucking up and portraying themselves as incompetent retards.
In other news, Van Der Steur stays on the cabinet even though his fuck-ups cost a lot of people's lives during the Brussels muslim terrorist attacks.
And the gubment wonders why nobody fucking trusts them any more.
>>70235239
The fire rises brother.
One day we'll benis them all.
Your PM doesn't look too mad
>>70235849
He is never mad.
>>70235849
Spent most the day in meetings behind closed doors.
Thx for voting no.Now we might have a chance that EU BTFO us, people get kind of red-pilled and overthrow oligarchy.Or nothing happens, who knows.Who the fuck cares, it's just a life so why don't try and do something massive and cool?
>>70221693
Is that Drew Carey? What is he selling?
So did the required percentage of registered voters show up? My understanding was that unless a certain percentage of people voted, the vote wouldn't count.
>>70221693
>>70222223
Pretty gud
The more resistance against the EU you put up, the better.
>>70236108
31% showed up, of which 65% voted against. The gubment is obliged to re-evaluate the agreement, at least.
Of course, the losing side is now crying that the winners only got more votes "because like a million Yes voters stayed home I swear, I have no proof but it's true you guys!"
>>70235849
He as an obnoxious smile on his face permanently
>>70229454
Not at all. Seriously the only people you see doing weed are teenagers influenced by US rap culture. "Dude 420 everyday" kind of faggots. Immigrants, poor people and tourists.
No one in my class smoked weed and like only one kid tried it. Seriously there are less weed smokers in the Netherlands than the entire state of Colorado.
>>70235935
I swear this guy constantly huffs laughing gas when we're not looking.
>>70236108
They did. The required percentage was 30%, 32,2% showed up.
>>70236070
Make Ukraine great again.
>>70234462
She was called out and then admitted she just didn't understand the text of the association agreement. That's why she was against and the reason the referendum was literally Hitler: she didn't understand what it was about.
I can't even, ugh
>>70236404
voor de Neder/pol/akken
>>70236364
This is a lie, from my own experience.
I'd wager most people have tried weed, is everyone a teenager or a bum now?
>>70236393
It was never great.
>>70236070
>>70236393
i hear ukraine has a pretty based neighbor who would be happy to help out
>>70221693
So, are you outta the EEEE YOOOU?
>>70236454
Mwa, is ook niet compleet onredelijk. Heb een vriendin die geneeskunde doet, werkt zich te pletter en heeft 0.0 idee wat er in de rest van de wereld gebeurt, niet gestemd. Geen probleem mee.
>>70230451
Studeren uiteraard.
En ik zie mezelf ook wel als overwegend links. Maar ik heb wel nee gestemd
>>70236641
>niet onredelijk om de vergelijking met Hitler te maken.
Ze is compleet gek
Remember that UK Anons can send their £90million EU leaflet back to Mr Cameron
Post it to this address:
The Rt Hon David Cameron, MP
The Prime Minister
10 Downing Street
Westminster
London SW1A 2AA
>>70236454
There have been a lot of simple explanations of what this thing is and what the vote would mean. Only the most retarded or the people that absolutely refuse to read anything about this don't have enough info to cast a vote.
>>70236788
Dat stond niet op dat plaatje pik.
>>70233784
>Indoctrination begins at middle school m8
I had a politics teacher who was full on commie. Had Soviet flag and posters of Marx, Lenin etc. Failed me because I "refused to recognise the superiority of the socialist system"
Had one great teacher though. He gave Dutch but I wish he gave history. He loved medieval history and the medieval (pre Dutch independence) of the Netherlands. That shit was interesting. Learned so much history from him because of it.
Also helped that his favourite writer was Pieter Corneliszoon Hooft. Whom is a distant ancestor of mine on my grandmother's side.
>>70236641
>politici
>implicerende dat die zoveel tijd kwijt zijn aan hun baan dat ze hun baan niet eens kunnen doen
Je zou toch op zijn minst van godvergete politici verwachten dat ze verdragen lezen.
>>70236909
zie
>>70227682
pik
>>70236070
I voted no because I don't see the point of starting a second Cold War while we have the fucking sandniggers to eradicate first.
>>70236930
What the fuck is a Curucao
daily reminder that /pol/ is always right
the lords of kek predicted this
>>70236984
Ik reageerde niet op de persoon, maar op de uitspraak in dat plaatje.
>>70236973
Wat had zij te maken met dit verdrag? Helemaal niets. Wel zwak natuurlijk, als politicus.
On a completely unrelated topic, I just realized how horrible the dutch language is. It sounds like someone trying to speak german whilst vomiting. I can't stand reading them, let alone listening to them.
>>70237132
The second best of the ABC Islands
>>70237178
>says the german
>>70236530
To be fair, I lived in Benoorderhout in Den Haag. Which is upper class as fuck!
Fun fact, it wasn't until an American friend came over and went to a coffeeshop before I met him that I realized "Oh that horrible smell I associate with homeless people is weed. Now I know one more symptom of degeneracy."
>>70222492
>On the other hand I'd rather have an immigration wave on hohols than roaches.
Jesus Christ, Speak English. What the fuck are you trying to say?
>>70221693
German media is so ultra butthurt kek
>Falsches Spiel im Namen der Demokratie.
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2016-04/niederlande-ukraine-eu-referendum-abstimmung
>>70237236
It doesn't speak to your intellect that you didn't know what weed smelled like until you were like 20
Coffeeshops are a hundred times more comfy than a bar as well
>>70237178
Nah, german just sounds like a mangled version of dutch
>>70237234
At least our language is readable and relatively more beautiful.
>>70236070
Serious questions for you Ukrainian.
1) Are you a Ukrainian or Russian speaker?
2) Do you live in the Ukrainian or Russian speaking part of Ukraine?
3) Would granting independence to the Russian speaking part of Ukraine so you can both go your own separate ways rather than forcing the other to do something they don't want, be a good solution for the future now?
Bonus question: Make Lvov Polish clay?
>>70237178
Hah, you should hear us talk in Limburg. We have this odd mix of Flemish/Dutch/German going on, and the words and pronunciation can have significant differences between towns that are not even 5 km apart.
>mfw even if you fucks decided to invade again we wouldn't even run to the neighbouring town to warn them because fuck those douchebags and their weird way of talking
USA with their financing of Fifth column destroyed Ukraine and now EU must bail it? Of course they will vote no. It is just a matter of time before Russia annexes Ukraine..
> Being happy a white Christian country gets to be Putin's slave state.
Geenstijl literally managed to brainwash an entire nation, those pro Russia cucks.
>>70237258
He's saying he'd rather have Ukkies than Mudslimes.
>>70237367
Nah
>>70237538
RARE FLAGG
>>70237618
>Pissing in Putin's cereal and starting a second Cold War just because MUH EU LOOK AT HOW GREAT WE ARE AREN'T WE NICE, HELPING OUT THE POOR UKRAINIANS WHO CAN'T FEND FOR THEMSELVES
Fuck off, faggot.
>>70237618
Yes, Putin came to congratulate them personally. God I love these rubbles.
xaxaxaxaxa!
>>70237132
Dutch colony in the Caribbean.
>>70237196
>second best
Aruba has the #1 beaches in the Caribbean and Curaçao #2
Bonaire has #1 diving in the Caribbean and Curaçao #2
Curaçao actually has beautiful nature on land unlike those two islands. And also has cultural things like tons of museums.
Best island to be if you want it all. Second best if you care more about beaches or diving.
>>70232986
Ze moeten jullie eens uit Nederland knikkeren gare kankerlimbo's. Jullie mogen echt totaal niks zeggen over niet Nederlands sprekende allochtonen.
Hopelijk is het volgende referendum om Limburg in the Noordzee te hijsen.
>>70237538
1.I am fluent in both, native russian speaker.
2.I live in Kiev, it's mixed, 50/50.
3.Independence isn't an option, Russia wouldn't accept Donbass.Federalization was an option since day 1, but Poroshenko was interested in war, or, I'd rather say, at some point he became interested in the war not ending.
No, Lviv is ruthenian(galicia-volhynian branch of ruthenians) city and it was held by Rzech pospolita and poland, not making it polish anyhow, though.
>>70237596
Man, I hate the town that is literally attached to my town.
>>70237953
I'm obviously biased, being Aruban.
I've been to Curacao once, had a real fun time.
>>70237958
Enjoy living in New-Syria, cuck.
>tfw lowest Muslim population of the entire country
>>70237953
Too many blacks and mixed blacks, no thanks.
>voted against
>already feel bad for ukraine
>>70238415
I don't think they'll miss you
>>70230198
desu its also because Leiden, Utreccht etc have a lot of shitty degrees. I mean shit like Law, Criminology, Psychology attracts 80% retards. And in uni there is a taboo on openly being anti liberal(or just right wing at all) and you will get fucking isolated if you say you vote for geert.
>>70238487
>Didn't fan the fires of the Russia/Ukraine conflict further
>Feeling bad for them
Even if it's meaningless in the end, you tried to prevent this inevitable war.
>>70237364
More like 16.
Also fuck coffeeshops and bars if you want to go out with friends. Take your own drinks and go out into nature man. Cheaper and more rewarding in my book.
Also chicks fucking love it a lot more.
>>70237178
>>70237367
>>70237398
>German and Dutch arguing about what is the better language in English.
>>70238286
>Tfw lowest population of Dutch people in Limburg
Echt er is volgens mij niks anders waar Nederlanders zich zo aan ergeren dan aan die groepen uitgelubberde nepduitse huisvrouwen die luid onder zichzelf aan het praten zijn. Als een vervelende strontvlieg hoor je ze overal zoemen, oedeeeboedeloedeeeee. Flikker toch ff kapot man. Ik luister nog liever naar een schijtende olifant.
>"Universiteit Maastricht"
>Nederlandse Universiteit
Kies er 1.
>>70221693
Crash the cuck continent
>>70238713
Thought you said he took you to a coffeeshop, misread.
I don't know man, there's not much that tops playing chess or cards for hours on end with friends while smoking.
>>70238808
Loât mich op de pop zeen woo de griezelige Limburger dich heât aangeraak jungske
>>70238128
I've been to Aruba, great place to visit. A little too quiet for my living. Of course Bonaire is so quiet that it would put Ben Carson to sleep.
>>70238286
My sister is dating a baron from Limburg. Forgot his fucking name but it's obnoxiously long.
His dad is chill, but he is a total fucking tool though. Guess that's why my sister likes him.
>>70237324
wie kannst du demokratie misbrauchen
>>70236454
Keep it up, crash the left
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/38261/Nieuws/article/detail/4277663/2016/04/07/PvdA-lid-heeft-spijt-van-uitspraak-dictators-en-referenda.dhtml
Wat een KANKER domme KANKER slet
>>70237236
>Benoordenhout
lol, Rutte lives there
>>70239505
"I never meant any harm"
You compared people to Hitler, you dumb skank
>>70239505
>I-I was tired!
Not comparing people to Hitler is argument 101 man.
Man these cucks
>Referenda zijn echter alles behalve een verrijking van de democratie. Sterker nog: het is in feite een bom onder de parlementaire democratie. Een stelsel waarin burgers zelf vertegenwoordigers kiezen om namens hen samenhangende beslissingen te nemen. Wanneer ze ontevreden zijn over deze beslissingen, kunnen ze hun vertegenwoordigers hierop afrekenen bij nieuwe verkiezingen.
>Het referendum zorgt ervoor dat de positie van deze volksvertegenwoordigers vrijblijvend wordt, aangezien het parlement bij elk vraagstuk overruled kan worden door een referendum. Dan rijst onmiddellijk de vraag waarom je überhaupt nog volksvertegenwoordigers zou kiezen als je hen het nemen van belangrijke beslissingen niet toevertrouwt.
>
Bovendien, wat betekent het als een meerderheid van het volk 'nee' zegt? Nee, ik wil niet meer toenadering tussen de EU en Oekraïne? Of nee, ik wil juist meer toenadering dan in dit verdrag geregeld wordt?
>Zelfs wanneer je - net als wij - uitgesproken voor het associatieverdrag bent, is het misschien verstandig om volgend jaar niet te gaan stemmen. Wanneer de opkomst onder de 30 procent blijft steken, zal het referendum ongeldig worden verklaard. Daarmee geeft het volk een krachtig signaal dat het geen behoefte heeft aan een fopspeen en dat het zijn eigen vertegenwoordigers prima in staat acht beslissingen te nemen. Dat is pas echt een zegen voor de democratie.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/opinie/red-de-democratie-ga-niet-stemmen-voor-geenpeil-referendum~a4154840/
De 30% opkomstdrempel vervangen door iets als "er moet tenminste 15% van de kiesgerechtigden voor/tegen stemmen wil het referendum geldig zijn" zou een goed idee zijn.
Komt op hetzelfde neer; minstens de helft van 30% moet voor/tegen stemmen om het geldig te maken, maar dan krijg je geen rare "ga niet stemmen" campagnes.
>>70240216
Dat is een goede oplossing. Kan ook gewoon de hele drempel wegnemen.
>>70240216
Doe het beter. Maak stemmen verplicht. Maar geef de optie op ieder stem biljet van "Geen stem"
>>70228341
People work in my city.
I love how the BBC couldnt manage to find stock ukraine photo without neonazi flags for their referendum article
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35984821
>>70227772
When I was a teen, quite a moment ago, I was visiting family in netherlands and had a trip around several dutch cities.. Rotterdam made worst impression on me with a lot of homeless and "diversity" so I guess it's that..
>>70243009
polan stronk
My area, 41% voted, 62% of those voted against.
>>70244691
based orangists
>Average YES voter after getting BTFO
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2016/04/jastemmer_heeft_boodschap_voor.html
>>70222374
The uni and canal island jonge
>>70244419
seriously.. I was in the Hague, some smaller cities like Leiden, Arnhem; even Amsterdam was fine.. It was 2003 or so and I felt something was wrong about rotterdam, being bluepilled teen back there..
>>70245780
Kanker dat is me toch eens grappig.
>muh 40 miljoen
artikel 453 zou ons nog behoorlijk wat meer centen hebben gekost, vrind.
>>70245780
Hahahahaha
>>70246436
what does it say? i cant read that high pitched netherscribble
german media says that the No vote means russia won
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6746653/73246576/voicemail_ja_stemmer_wil_wat_kwijt.html
BOZE KEKS
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>>70246712
if germany wanted to win their leaders probably should have sucked less
>>70246213
It should be 40 mill but KANKER Plascuck only gave use 20 mill to fund it (aka sabotage)
>>70246614
Some cuck couldn't contain his butthurt and left several messages on the voicemail of the main backers of the referendum.
Pure autismal rage.
>>70246614
It's leftists having a mental breakdown
>COMMIT SUICIDE
>FUCK OFF
>IDIOTS
>IDIOTS
>YOU ARE PUSSIES
>YOU WONT EVEN ANSWER THE PHONE
That site organized the referendum campaign, often referred to as right-wing by the leftie propaganda machine
>>70246947
>pic
Kek
>>70246614
Basically that geenstijl are faggots, and that this shit had costed use 40 million.
And a bunch of really weak cursewords.
>>70246614
It would make no sense to a foreigner. Forget about it, mate.
>>70247211
pic from the minsk negotiations, the only edit was the stick figure drawings
>>70246910
>dame in plaatje is zwart
Wedden dat zij geen cent heeft bijgedragen aan die 40miljoen belastinggeld? Kanker negers die doen alsof ze Nederlanders zijn.
>>70247033
Hij heeft later nog 12 miljoen gegeven en er kwam 10 miljoen van de gemeentes. Cijfer klopt wel.
>>70229712
What the fuck are the Ouchi Japanese separatists doing in that list kek
>>70246910
>>70247299
Oh, they're being money-conscious now, and upset about the cost of the referendum? Alright. Are there any estimates on how much the Ukraine deal passing will cost Europe or the Netherlands?
>>70247937
or how many billions the EU has already spent?
>>70245780
Faggot can hardly get out his words. Keeps repeating himself constantly. It's almost like he is retarded.
Yup. That sounds like a Libtard.
>>70246910
>Hij heeft later nog 12 miljoen gegeven en er kwam 10 miljoen van de gemeentes. Cijfer klopt wel.
Link? Wil het even lezen
>>70247937
138 billion total in support, expunging and restructuring debt and subsidies. Thats for the entire EU. So if it was split fairly (which it wouldnt be) it would cost us 138/28= 4.9 billion.
>>70248081
The Dutch have payed 1 billion euros to the Ukraine already at least.
>>70248250
Stond op GeenStijl weet ik veel hoeveel weken geleden. Je kan het denk ik het beste googlen.
>>70247355
I love the photo it self: sad cucks at the front and laughing dictators at the back.
>>70237618
Happy I'm not the only one on the GeenStijl bandwagon. I understand most Dutch anons have been on dumpert/geensteil and that's how their opinion has been molded in the referendum as well, the same people who constantly shout that the 'for'-side is constantly using propaganda, while they're blinded by their own Geenstijl influence.
>>70248874
Nah man they're free thinkers. Jan Roos is a public intellectual!
>>70222223
gg Netherlands
I admire any resistance against Merkerl's Fourth Reich nowadays
>>70248874
Actually, I was convinced to vote no by Thierry Baudet when I met him to go on TV.
Wasn't the Netherlands the only country who haven't voted on this yet... so basically the EU just got KEKED by the Dutch (I think the rest of the EU voted YES)
>>70248874
Not particularly fond of geenstijl/dumpert either. The referendum was just a good initiative.
>>70237618
My interests collide with those of Putin.
>I am now a slave of Putin
>>70248966
I won't condone all of them. I'm sure a lot of people have been informed properly. But at the same time I'm pretty sure a lot of young Dutch people get all their information from Geenstijl, who are obviously against the treaty. But that's the flaw in democracy really, people are easy to persuade and if you own the media, you own the country.
>>70237618
Yuros brainwashed ukraine, they're the ones that made using NGOs and political donations to fuck up a country's internal politics fair game
Putin is just playing by their rules. Expect a lot more of this in the future
>>70222776
I feel like I should be able to understand it, but I don't.
Dutch is fucking weird.
>>70249348
If you can't trust people to vote on a referendum, can you trust people to vote representatives?
>referendum is already invalidated by EU overlords
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
https://ttip-referendum.nl/
Niet vergeten jongens.
>>70250185
Laat ze het weer lekker wegwuiven. Kunnen ze net zo goed meteen het VK eruit trappen.
Does the European Commission hate us now?
>my dick when eu hates us so much they will kick us out
>>70250870
but then where will they send their rapeugees?
>>70251427
germany and sweden
>>70250870
Will never happen.
>>70229712
>That much overextension
Of course 'Murica would annex everything.
>>70250701
Seeing as Timmermans is a PvdA'er he is probably already planning the invasion of the Netherlands in case Wilders gets elected.
>>70251843
No, but a referendum will happen once based Geert gets elected and the Brits are out.
>>70252100
I would have considered this a silly fantasy a year ago, but it looks like there is a small chance the EU might actually be on its last legs.
It's all on the bongs' shoulders now.
>>70252370
>tfw merkel will take a cyanide pill when the EU collapses in your lifetime
>>70252100
>>70252370
britbongs won't leave
brexit is all a fake, it will never happen
>>70252100
I doubt that leaving the EU would benefit us more than it does damage.
Also this >>70252694
>>70252780
D66-cuck detected
>>70252694
Yes it will. Once the EU ignores this referendum, people will get fucking pissed.
>>70236641
>>70236454
Liever blanco als je niks weet.
>>70253158
as if their gouvernment will ever allow them to actually split, even if their people wanted it
>>70222374
Past student in Utrecht, Nederbruhs. Can confirm, Utrecht is full of academicucks.
>>70240761
Die heb je zowiezo.
Je kan een dikke piemel op een biljet zetten en dan is ie lekker blanco
>mensen die denken dat er maar 2 opties zijn als er 2 vakjes zijn
Blanco is altijd een optie
>>70252694
It's all going to fall apart anyway. The way they configured this buttfucking union is awful.
Fucking lawyers and career politicians man. Not even once.
>>70253255
It won't matter, the referendum is the only reason Cuckmeron is still in power. If they ignore the result, UKIP will win in the next election and get the fuck out of the EU.
>mfw alloctoon die nee stemde
