Someone in my class pointed out that trump is like hitler because they both have platforms that are based on bigotry and scapegoating. What are your thoughts on this /pol/?
trump is a right wing populist while hitler was a far right fascist.
>>70171553
yeah but that's what his idiot followers want
>>70171553
That person is a dumbass.
>>70171553
funny how the right calls the left authoritarian
meanwhile they are begging for an all powerful leader to put people in their place
>>70171553
it's not scapegoating if the accusation is true
>>70171730
>public schooling
>raises minimum wage
>sets taxes through the roof
>increases government power
>race baits
>German Social Workers Party
>"right wing"
I can't do this anymore
>>70172251
>>70172033
Would you care to expand on this?
>>70172473
Both of your points I mean
>>70171553
>One demands closed borders and deportation of illegal immigrants
>The other demanded deportation of all non-ethnic germans.
Yeah, no.
>>70172251
well he was saying mexicans and muslims do something
but if theres was another mass shooting, I bet he won't say it' was the whites
He seeks to secure borders and re-establish us as a nation, something that every nation should be doing unless they are international socialists
>>70171553
They both wanted to make their country great.
>>70172675
is he gonna hire someone to tell him how?
>>70171553
More like Mussolini, pompous, vain and narcissistic. He's not a fascist, though. I can tell because his supporters all dress different.
>>70172473
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/scapegoating?s=t
"a group made to bear the blame for their others"
If a group did what another group is accusing them of doing, then they aren't a scapegoat.
There is no more to expand.
>>70172334
because it's fucking retarded. Just like leftists who deny that the communists were left wing.
>>70171553
Comparing a republican presidential candidate or president to Hitler is what liberals do. They did it for Bush, Bush Sr, Reagan, and so on going all the way back to the 1949 DNC convention when Truman made a Dewey/Hitler comparison a mere 4 yrs after Hitler reign ended. It's what they do, and as history has shown, they have been wrong everytime.
>>70171553
He doesn't blame JUST illegal immigrants. He blames incompetent politicians and the Presidents who let it get so bad.
He doesn't blame Muslims. Just the Islamic terrorists and again the people in our government who decided it was a good idea to go over to the Middle East and fuck shit up even worse cos the Middle East has been shit for thousands of years. America wasn't the cause but we did manage to make everybody over there hate us.
Someone's always to blame for something. When has something ever been "nobody's fault?"
You know how to tell when somebody doesn't actually know shit about politics? When they compare somebody they don't like to Hitler.
His platform isn't based on bigotry and scapegoating. It's more of... nationalism and exceptionalism.
>>70173104
plus if we're going to talk about scapegoating let's talk about the group that blames white men for literally every problem they perceive
>>70171553
Hitler is a socialist
so was Bernie
checkmate
>>70171730
Hitler was only right wing socially, he was a leftist who nationalized industries, instilled rationing, expanded government, and personally relied on astrology and was a vegetarian...hardly right wing.
Trump is not a bigot. How is it racist to call for a temporary halt of those who come from nations that have ties to extreme, Islamoterrorism? All he wants is a way for them to be vetted before arriving on US soil.
And as far as Latinos, is he were racist against them, he would not employ them. And furthermore it is the duty if the US federal government to answer to its citizens, on whom it governs. Why have a census bureau if we have a federal government, not doing their job description on knowing of every citizen it is supposed to govern/protect?
>>70171553
Bernie's platform scapegoats the rich
Hillary's platform scapegoats Republicans
most politics is based on scapegoating
How come no one ever talks about the benefits of the fascist state? Everyone keeps spewing shit like "It would've fallen apart on its own" when it wouldn't've.
trump isn't going to be elected dictator
does he think he'll be able to do what he says?
like the defenders of the constitution (his followers) want?
But Hitler was right. The International Jew was enslaving Europe.
An Inconvenient Truth.
>>70173553
We don't know yet and that is the scary part if Trump does get elected.
>>70173335
false dichotomization.
Hitler's ideology was syncretic.
>>70171553
tell them that hitler was really interested in bankers taking over the country. The bankers were mostly of jewish descent. Jews representatives declared all jews enemies of germany and boycotted german jews. In retaliation Hitler deported all Jews.
>>70174149
*boycotted german goods
>>70173759
I don't think many people will put up with him choosing which laws he'll follow
there's international laws/ treaties he can't just cancel. but that's what he's saying
>White people having borders is racist
>White people looking out for their own interests is nazi
>building a wall is literally another holocaust
>>70174149
>What is the Final Solution
>>70172334
>German Social Workers Party
There was a real socialist faction in the nazi party but it was purged on the night of long knives.
Bernie uses rich people as a scapegoat for all our problems too.
>>70174293
white ppl have invaded every country on this planet
and colonized most of it
>>70171553
I've yet to see what makes him a bigot, and I haven't seen him scapegoating anything. Above that, I don't really see how that makes a person like Hitler. Hitler was a bit more aggressive about creating Lebensraum and encouraging the destruction of Jewish businesses, and eventually the entirety of the Jewish people.
Trump just wants to deport the 12 million people living and working in the US without visas or citizenship. They're breaking the current law and do not deserve to live here.
>>70174731
What about le Muslims?
>>70174459
suddenly whites need to be protected from the damage they've done?
>>70171553
>its rich people's fault
>its white people's fault
>its christians fault
fuck off.
>>70173796
Are you lucid?
That was partly my point. He was right wing socially, and pretty fucking left in other realms of government, what did you not understand if Hitler having a combination of beliefs?
>>70171553
Is it scapegoating when you're targeting specific people for things that they're actually doing? Is it bigoted to protect your nation from forces that actively attempt to destroy it?
Tolerance is a fucking cancer.
>>70172334
fascism is by definition right wing. Ask fucking mussolini who said it himself. somebody needs to go back to facebook.
>>70171663
>dat file size
:C
>>70172334
>murican education
>>70175166
Notice that these groups are all easy targets;
IE- they never fight back. Leftists are literally bullying peaceful groups.
>>70174459
>improved most of it.
FTFY
>>70174459
Every other race has engaged in conquest and slavery, but only white kids are shamed for it. Are you saying we deserve to go extinct?
doesn't it strike anyone else as ironic that it the "kill 'em all" crew that needs this wall
>>70174973
I covered that. It is not racist to temporarily halt those from nations that encourage/fund extreme Islamoterrorism. What should they not be properly vetted before arriving here?
>>70175585
maybe that's what they wanna do for you
tell them that the guy who wants to pull troops out of places like Japan and South Korea sounds like the antithesis of Htiler
>>70171553
Someone in your class is using some super vague reasons to compare a man to someone who people vilify for systematically killing jews
It's not bigotry or scapegoating if it's true.
>>70175747
Does it not go against the constitution?
>>70171553
he is also like hitler because he has two eyes a mouth, wears clothes etc.
Fuck, I hate SJWs.
>>70171553
Both are White men who want to make their nation great again.
Someone thinks this is evil, racist, and bigoted.
>>70171553
Platforms based on bigotry and scapegoating you say?
JEE I WONDER WHO ELSE SOUNDS LIKE THAT.
Oh my, that's right.
Feminists. The left.
Their scapegoat? White men.
Their platform? Hating white men.
>>70172334
I think the Nazis were social democrats plus fascism which took hold later on with Hitler during the war, not actual socialists like the Soviets.
>>70175297
Things changed. Fascism would fall under modern left-wing politics. The question whether or not Hitler was left or right-wing is interesting but it heavily depends on modern and old/original left and right-wing politics. So the first thing is to make clear which one you're talking about.
>>70174973
What's bigoted about halting immigration from countries where terrorists are openly admitting they're attempting to infiltrate the refugees, and where we are seeing huge increases in rape and murder in every country accepting them?
It's primarily focused on Muslims because the terrorists are using Islam as their justification. Trump isn't interested in deporting Muslims, just preventing new ones from coming in until we have a system to prove they are not criminals and terrorists, you know?
>>70175910
nope, it's actually not unusual to limit immigration for pretty much any reason. It's not a right to immigrate to the US.
>>70173104
Couldn't you say the 1%, whites, males, heterosexuals, and Westerners are a scapegoat for Bernie and Hillary?
>>70171553
No, trump hasn't won a man of the year award......yet
>>70176259
Or been nominated for a Nobel peace prize
anyone know trumps position on gay marriage?
>>70174459
Yeah, centuries ago. And it's a really poor excuse to act like a wild animal and demand things that should really go to your great grand parents.
>>70171553
Someone in your class needs to do their Hitler homework.
Just post this whenever someone on Facebook thinks pictures that show similarities means trump is the devil/hitler
>>70171553
hitler was socalist like bernie
>>70176373
anyone know trump's position on lgbt rights?
>>70176373
From what I've read he says he accepts the Supreme Court's decision on it, though he would have preferred that the individual states decided it for themselves. He doesn't seem to express any desire to ban gay marriage at all.
>>70171553
Okay, if thats true, then Bernie Sanders is like Stalin because he is against the rich and openly talks about "eliminating" the big banks.
>>70172334
>nazis were right wing
>communists were right wing
>woah look how many people capitalism killed guys, socialism has never been tried
>>70176690
Not only that, but he uses words of revolution, and his followers advocate a limiting of speech under "hate speech" legislation, in addition to banding together in large protests to shut down "hate". The fun part is they get to define anything that's not what they believe as hate, so they gain the ability to shut down any dissent.
>>70175910
>>70176098
Obama did it in 2011 when we pulled out of Iraq. Was his fear of Iraqis irrational and bigoted?
>http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/18/the-obama-administration-stopped-processing-iraq-refugee-requests-for-6-months-in-2011/
>>70171553
>> Someone in my class pointed out that trump is like hitler because they both have platforms that are based on bigotry and scapegoating.
Which assumes many untrue things:
1) That Hitler was not an amazing politician who worked miracles for his country.
2) That 6 gorillian actually happened.
3) That it's illegitimate to EVER point out the faults of any religious or ethnic group.
4) That expressing a desire to enforce our current laws is somehow problematic.
5) That Islam has absolutely NO baggage which should make us question to wisdom of importing undocumented Muslims from the heart of ISIS territory.
6) That there are no problems with having millions of people who pay no tax and have access to all of our tax-funded infrastructure and entitlement programs.
And on and on and on... This "argument" is.made on top of a mountain of dogmatic assumptions.
Idk, treat others with respect, follow the law?
>>70176558
>http://www.msnbc.com/thomas-roberts/thomas-roberts-donald-trump-interview
>>70175910
How would the Constitution cover rights to those who are not on this soil?
Ours.. the US Constitution is one for the US, it is not a world Constitution that covers citizens in another country.
>>70177489
FUCK LAWS AND BORDERS AND SHIT
>>70171553
>Bigotry and scapegoating
Bernie Sanders must be like, super Hitler then. He blames corporations for everything more than Hitler blamed Jews.
>>70172643
Why would he say it was the whites when most mass shootings are carried out by Muslims or niggers? And there is a difference here. People love Trump for saying that because NO ONE was allowed to say it (and get away with it) for the longest time, even though we were all thinking it. Whenever a White man does ANYTHING wrong its, on a 24/7 hour news cycle. When a non-White does something wrong, the race is omitted and the story is buried. He broke the chains of political correctness for ALL OF US. I notice even normies these days don't care about being PC or offending someone.
>>70175910
No.
>>70178069
I mean hell say mexican or muslim but hell never say the whites
like if whites take over another bird sanctuary and trash it or a stand off with whites with guns
kinda a double standard from a position of privilege
>>70173759
>>70173553
The major appeal of Trump for me is, if he DOES go full dictator mode, we know exactly who to blame and it would be easy to impeach him. Not like Obama who has gotten away with destroying the military, eroding tradition after tradition, and selling out the country to corporate interests. He can get away with this shit because of the media cabal that is behind him, and his cunning skill at doubletalking. Trump isn't a double talker, and he has no nefarious media machine behind to spin whatever he says into Truthâ„¢. Here's an example, the media says NOTHING when Obama has spent HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in taxpayer dollars for his personal vacations. If Trump (or any other President that wasn't Obama) did this, especially refusing to come home after a terror attack, it would be a national scandal. Instead the average person doesn't even know Obama was in Cuba kissing Castro's feet instead of ensuring the American people we were secure after a major terror attack on one of our allies.
>>70175297
This is totally false and ignorant.
Obama is a great example of a left wing fascist with imposing Obamacare on the US.
>>70178520
he generalizes when it comes to minorities but i bet he never does it with whites
>>70177489
Trump is a realist though. It can be nice and idealist to just say "why can't everyone get along", but when in practice it does legitimately lead to more rape and violence, you can't just pretend it's not happening because people "should" be following the laws. People are predictable in their inability to follow laws, and the structures of the military make it difficult to prosecute for some reason.
What he's saying is it's obvious this was going to happen, and no one prepared things well enough to prevent all the inevitable lawbreaking. They just thrust men and women together without thinking.
>>70171553
Trump is comparable to Huey Long or Benito Mussolini. Cruz on the other hand could possibly be compared to Hitler or another psychotic high ranking Nazi official.
>>70174254
>but that's what he's saying
No he isn't. He's saying what is factually correct, ISIS isn't a signatory of the Geneva convention. The Geneva convention was made for a time when two civilized (relatively) fought each other, and wanted agreed terms to do so. Even if ISIS had agreed to something like this, they wouldn't stick to it. Do you really think the US should be worrying about Rules of Engagement or how a terrorist "feels" when he's being waterboarded when the whole country is at risk at the moment? THIS IS A BATTLE FOR SURVIVAL. We have radical mosques all over the US going unsurveilled, EVEN LIBERAL FRANCE SURVEILS AND CLOSES DOWN RADICAL MOSQUES. We shouldn't wait for a Paris to happen in the US before we do anything, we should act now.
>>70178807
muslims say burkas stop rape
I think it s the person
a rapist is a rapist
>>70175910
Constitution doesn't apply to people trying to emigrate from another country, especially when they have a stated goal of dismantling the country from within.
>>70179169
how is that even relevant. The point is that the culture of military life makes sexual assault a very likely thing. It even happens among the men themselves. There's also a culture of sucking up and not prosecuting it. Adding women to that mixture is just stupid without adequately building a system to prevent it beforehand.
It's like knowing there's a fire and putting your hand in anyway, then complaining that you got burned and that the fire should have just not burned you. Put water on the fire first.
Muslim culture DOES encourage rape in their societies, and as a result we get a ton more rape from people of those cultures. It's not surprising and we should be preventative, not just accepting.
>>70179097
ISIS isn't a signatory of the Geneva convention.
that's bs
john yoo torture memos?
we signed un charters
>>70179401
yeah. you're just a grown man, how can you be expected to control yourself, right?
>>70179662
You have to be blind to not realize that different people have different self-control levels, and culture is a huge part of that.
I can control myself, but others can't, and if others encourage it around those that can't control it, you're going to see it happen. That's called reality. You address reality, not fantasies where everyone in society behaves because they ought to.
>>70179795
wow
make an excuse for murder
>>70179795
I'm guessing most people that sign up for the military are rightwing, no?
the law must be obeyed types?
>>70180264
It's not making an excuse for anything. Are you literally retarded?
>>70171553
'bigotry and scapegoating' just means politically incorrect. i like trump and i probably would have liked hitler too.
>>70180456
are you?
>>70171553
The national socialists were started to end international banks. It was more about ending usury than race or bigotry.
>>70180512
I don't know how you could pretend I was excusing rape and murder though. I said if the culture and situation is susceptible to it, you should take measures to prevent it and make it less likely before you take an action that will increase the amount of expected rape and murder by huge amounts.
You can be aware of what will increase crime without advocating crime you dingus.
>>70173164
>>>70171553 (OP)
>He doesn't blame JUST illegal immigrants. He blames incompetent politicians and the Presidents who let it get so bad.
>He doesn't blame Muslims. Just the Islamic terrorists and again the people in our government who decided it was a good idea to go over to the Middle East and fuck shit up even worse cos the Middle East has been shit for thousands of years. America wasn't the cause but we did manage to make everybody over there hate us.
>Someone's always to blame for something. When has something ever been "nobody's fault?"
>You know how to tell when somebody doesn't actually know shit about politics? When they compare somebody they don't like to Hitler.
>His platform isn't based on bigotry and scapegoating. It's more of... nationalism and exceptionalism.
Good post
>>70178601
retarded. =
>Bernie blames big banks
Big banks are typically ran by Jews.
√m8
>>70180659
wingnut logic
>>70173332
Hitler was harder on the banks than Bernie is. Hitler issued state credit to expand production. He viewed wealth as production of goods. Hitler also made sure that no foreign or private hands touched the German finances. This would of created more jobs, and could make taxation lower, while wages could go up. Also the fact that it would create deflation and reduce debt.
Bernie supported QE aka quick earnings. He think printing money and disregarding production is fine. He would make America more dependent on banks not less. He would tax us up the ass, and inflate our currency. There would be less private sector jobs too. Bernie is worse than Hitler when it comes to economics.
All of them blame somebody, Trump blames the government, actually. They're welcoming the illegals in. Trump seems to want to put Americans' interests first, instead of the rest of the world's. The others don't seem to.
>>70181357
I don't think the rest of the world is gonna agree after the us jammed all those trade deals down everyones throat
I can see this as being a yuge problem
>>70181244
What do you propose we do then? Literally nothing? Just accept that there are rapists and wait for them to rape before doing something after the fact? Sounds pretty shitty.
What you seem to stupidly be thinking is that I'm suggesting that we should do thinks akin to burqas. I'm not. That's retarded. I'm saying we need to increase the strength of the consequences and try to change the culture to not encourage it. THEN you can safely take the action because rape will then be less likely to be a problem.
Similarly, Trump wants to put a temporary stay on Muslim immigration until we can vet their histories and prove they are not going to come to America with the idea that raping infidels is cool, or have ties to ISIS. Just accepting them with a rubber stamp and saying "have fun, don't be bad" is just ignorant.
>>70171553
Trump isn't a gay atheist who hangs around a gay rifle club
>>70173153
>They did it for Bush, Bush Sr, Reagan,
they didn't do it then, it would have been quite accurate in those cases
>>70172776
Michael Savage
>>70180965
If that is the best retort you have, I'm embarrassed for you.
Rather than personally attack me, (which always indicates you have no valid points or facts to make) prove me wrong, or eat shit faggot
>>70171553
Oh kind of like Anita Slutistan?
>>70173619
>But Hitler was right. The International Jew was enslaving Europe.
he would know he was working for them
>>70171553
It has nothing to do with scapegoating. We're the ones giving China the good deals. We're the ones letting certain industries be taken over by people who aren't citizens in our own fucking country. We're the ones fucking over our working and middle class. And it's up to us to fix it. It's up to us to make america great again, because despite what some liberal arts cucks might say - it's not. America isn't great.
>>70182072
>We're the ones giving China the good deals.
China is ripping us off along with their pals who sell heroin England
>>70179298
Hitler DID make the country great again. To the point where even after they LOST they were an economic powerhouse for fucking generations. That's all to come crashing down now though
>>70182195
Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you.
funny how ppl that call themselves nationalist have no problem trampling on other nations
maybe they should call themselves supremacists
>>70171553
Isn't Sanders the one using Scapegoat tactics?
"You are poor? It's because of the rich!"
"You are depressed? It's because of the privileged white males!"
>>70171553
Islam is like hitler because they both have platforms that are based on bigotry and scapegoating
>>70182416
aren't the ppl who fight back nationalist too, just like you?
![[catchy trump music playing in the distance].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/g4TpTG1.jpg "[catchy trump music playing in the distance].jpg")
>>70171553
10 quick ways to show that trump is the OPPOSITE of hitler:
1. trump wants all law abiding citizens to be able to own a gun.
hitler banned his citizens from owning guns.
2. trump is anti war unless in self defense, as proved by his opposition to the iraq war.
hitler loved conquering other counties.
3. trump is in favor of reducing government power.
hitler loved total government control.
4. trump is in favor of getting marijuana off the DEA's hit list, legalizing it on a federal level for medicinal purposes, and upon reviewing a state's economic/social reports where it is already legal on a recreational level (like colorado) would be willing to make it 100% federally legal.
hitler banned smoking.
5. trump loves military veterans, which include a disproportionately high amount of minorities.
hitler did not like minorities and certainly didn't have them in his army.
6. trump got multiple standing ovations at the AIPAC conference (in fact, he was the ONLY candidate to get a standing ovation PERIOD), had a yarmulke with his name on it become the best selling item there, has a jewish daughter, jewish grand children and was the grand marshal of the salute to israel parade in 2004. there are lots of jewish people in israel btw.
hitler did not like jewish people. at all.
7. trump wants to reduce military presence in other nations.
hitler didn't like reducing military presence period.
8. trump has many high ranking female executives within his organization. his national spokes person is a multi racial black woman.
hitler didn't like women in his military. or minorities. or race mixers. or letting women speak for him.
9. trump's first wife wants him to become the president of the united states.
hitler's first wife committed suicide 40 hours after they got married.
10. trump assured the audience in a recent republican debate that there is nothing wrong with his penis.
hitler only had 1 testicle.
>>70171553
sure but then ghandi was like hitler because they both loved their country
>>70182676
>hitler did not like minorities and certainly didn't have them in his army.
He did though
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>>70183131
>>70182676
1
>>70176558
He prefers marriage between a man and a woman but his position on legislation is leave it up to the States, like just about every other trivial (compared to ISIS, our economy, the border, etc) social issue.
>>70182676
trump has been talking about bombing iran since 2007
http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/20/donald-trump-in-2007-we-have-to-strike-iran/
>>70171553
>Someone in my class pointed out that trump is like hitler because they both have platforms that are based on bigotry and scapegoating. What are your thoughts on this /pol/?
Illegal immigrants = bad
>Someone in my class pointed out that bernie is like hitler because they both have platforms that are based on bigotry and scapegoating. What are your thoughts on this /pol/?
"Rich" people = open season
Know the difference
>>70182676
3. trump is in favor of reducing government power.
for you maybe.
he's talking about expanding the military so big it will scare everyone
>>70183297
>>70183457
beaver bitch running insane amounts of damage control, cherry picking and moving the goal posts in order to defend his precious manlet fuhrer.
fuck off back to your safe space, pierre.
>>70183191
I, uh... what?
>>70183089
>>70183089
>>70183089
>>70183089
>>70183089
get the fuck in here brethren
>>70180436
>most people that sign up for the military are rightwing, no
Nope. Lot of lefties joining up these days, and a LOT of minorities. Obama wants a bunch of trannies and fags running the military, ideally. Most people just want the nice perks and benefits that come with military service.
>>70179662
This is a ridiculous argument, we're talking about a macro level. Within your logic, police don't need to arrest to criminals, the criminals should just control themselves. You're just saying a problem shouldn't exist because you don't like the problem, instead of recognizing it exists and trying to fix it or prevent it.
>>70181244
If you can actually point out the flaw in his so called "wingnut" logic, then please do so. Otherwise, fuck off with your ad hominem.
>>70171553
They are right. Jesus, why do you have to be so stubborn /pol/?
Don't get me wrong, what Trump plans to do with muslims and illegal cholos is the way to go, but to say that his campaign isn't based on racism and scapegoating is straight up denial.
His charisma comes from being a strong man with drastic ideas. That's why he gets so much support.
>>70183613
So... jobs?
>>70171553
People only call Hitler a bigot due to hindsight.
Trump being Hitler and Satan combined is a meme.
>>70171553
>platforms that are based on bigotry and scapegoating
His platforms are based on hard statistics.
Illegal immagrants cause problems for America just by being in the country, not to mention the high percentage of crime they cause.
Same as Muslims, they have an ideology that causes a high percentage of crime coming from them exclusively, 80% of Muslims agree that sharia should rule, and 25% believe honor killings are sometimes justified.
If his platforms were truly based on bigotry he would be trying to remove American citizens that cause trouble, especially blacks since they commit seriously high percentage of crimes, but he doesn't.
Bernie and Hillary are the ones scapegoating.
Trump is their number 1 scapegoat, they act like his words control the minds of liberals and force them to become violent.
Hillary pretends the wage gap is real and blames men for everything
Bernie pretends police brutality is an issue and blames racism for violent black criminals getting shot.
>>70183730
1 so you have a tough job so you shouldn't be expected to control yourself? how many high ranking women get raped by privates?
>>70182676
>there are lots of jewish people in israel btw.
>hitler did not like jewish people. at all.
FUCKING LOL, this guy.
>>70183613
He's talking about expanding the military back to what it was before Obama effectively dismantled it. You know, so we can take care of ISIS and not worry about being bombed all the time, and then we can focus on fixing the country. And there is a LOT more power and money allocated in America's regulatory bodies and welfare system than the military. No one gets rich by being corrupt in the military.
>>70175297
Mussolini also said fascists could also be at the mountain in the center. And that placing fascism on the left/right spectrum wasn't a large issue.
read more.
>>70184086
What part of my post specifically are you replying to, because your post doesn't make sense. Being in the US military isn't a "tough job" for 99% of servicemen, its cushy as fuck.
t. veteran
>>70183730
2 but I thought these guys, the military was all about discipline
>>70184302
>how many high ranking women get raped by privates?
>>70178601
Obamacare was the least of it. Obama has acted unilaterally via Executive Order more times than EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT COMBINED IN US HISTORY. He is effectively a dictator, with no current opposition (Republicans are on the same fucking team) there is no check or balance here.
>>70184469
that's a load of bullshit. Citation needed on that claim.
>>70184327
It used to be. Again, that was before Obama. I'm done with your circular reasoning, I'm gonna go watch 12 Monkeys now.
The Nazi board on 4chan and literal Nazis on Stormfront, Daily Stormer etc.. support Trump because he's not racist at all right?
>>70184469
Obama has been pretty fucking standard compared to the past few presidents.
>>70184852
I thought it was just a meme that liberals were so stupid they thought simply a number of executive orders defined how sweeping the changes were. I guess not.
>>70184545
I was exaggerating for humor, sorry lol. He's done the most damage via executive order. "On paper" he hasn't issued a lot of Executive Orders, but in practice he has.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-presidential-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/
Memorandums hold more power than Executive Order actually, because they are typically used to issue regulatory change, stuff that can be worth a lot of money to the right corporation pulling strings.
>>70182676
>9. trump's first wife wants him to become the president of the united states.
>hitler's first wife committed suicide 40 hours after they got married.
FUCKING LOL
>>70184912
well since you're here, what does define it?
>>70184852
Take a look at memorandums. Most of the lists don't factor in these (even though they're more important than "Executive orders"), which is probably the reason Obama has effectively dictated all of his extra-Congressional reforms through memorandum, not Executive Order.
>>70171730
facism is leftist you fucking retard.
>>70172141
And the left are busy instituting laws to silence people and bring large business into the government fold - so fascism.
>>70181839
The bush's and reagan caused a world war with a holocaust?
>>70185261
I'm looking, and I'm not finding any specifics at all. What metric counts as "damage" compared to other presidents?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/12/31/claims-regarding-obamas-use-of-executive-orders-and-presidential-memoranda/
Yes. But shhhh. Only /pol/ gets it. Don't let the rabble know. Instead say he's simply against ILLEGAL immigration. (Snicker)....
>>70185413
silence people? who?
>>70179298
lol this is why anti-trump people piss me off. the majority of them base their opinions of meme-tier bullshit like this. "this movie has a line thats talking about hitler that happens to be the campaign slogan for this this guy. obviously i must base my political views on this!"
then they just compact and snowball to the point that theyve seen so many anti-trump memes that they just have it ingrained in their head that hes actually hitler. even though the only 'evidence' are shitty coincidences like this, or people using out of context dialog.
>>70171553
Hitler blamed the Jews for everyone's problems
Bernie blamed the 1% for everyone's problems
>>70184302
>>70184391
There's a lot of rape going on in the OR.
>>70185849
by privates ?
>>70185849
all I'm saying is they can control themselves
if they know they'll get fucked
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism
Trying to read all these different definitions of fascism is hilarious. Faggy liberals tripping all over themselves trying to define Hitler.
>>70185764
This.
Jews and the 1% are literally the same thing
>>70171553
Trump is just like Hitler. Look at the evidence:
Hitler and TRUMP breathed air as children.
Hitler and TRUMP drank water.
Hitler and TRUMP ate food.
Hitler and TRUMP have 2 eyes, 1 nose, 1, and 2 ears.
he was one of my twitters a year or 2 ago
And Bernie blames rich white bankers and white people in general. Every politician scapegoats.
>>70171553
Bigotry and nationalism, authoritarianism, all of that, yes.
Difference is Hitler was very ideological about it and his economic and racial visions were very personally meaningful to him, which is partly what made his speeches so effective. He was mustard gassed fighting in the war causing it, went to jail over it, wrote a book on it, spent 10+ years doing nothing but climbing the ranks of the Nationalist Socialist Party lecturing and organizing before reaching power.
Trump doesn't understand any consistent core idea or view really, isn't able to explain it, has fundamentally shifted it multiple times over his lifetime, and honestly doesn't really seem to believe it.
Hitler had a deep commitment to a specific vision and needed power to get it. Trump just seems to believe in Trump and want the power itself. Trump will say whatever he needs to to attain power, Hitler would convince people of exactly what he wanted to attain power.
>>70185923
>>70186035
Women have no place in the military other than auxiliary roles. Put two and two together. That's all I will say.
>>70171553
All subjective, you highschooler.
Also belief in something=/ tyranny
>>70184469
Even more great examples of Obama being a left wing fascist.
>>70185357
Fascism can be at both left and right ends of the spectrum. Obama is a leftist fascist while Benito Mussolini was a right wing fascist
>>70173335
way to amalgamate several things that had nothing to do with Hitlers politics.
Rationing? how is this left wing for a country that is negligent of resources
Astrology? more like hyperbole
vegetarian? How is this even a political position you mongoloid?
>>70172334
I'd say far-right, but let's not pretend that the Nazis were progressive or liberal in any real capacity. They fundamentally arose out of a perceived failing of the social democrat party, they reinforced hierarchy and traditionalist ideals to the point of actual impracticality (see killing polish metal workers instead of incorporating them into the war machine). They heavily racialized their society and emphasized a macho cult of personality around an authoritarian leader. This shit is as rightward as it gets on the political spectrum. The actual socialists of the time were seen by Nazis as backstabbers and part of teh joos conspiracy.
>>70172334
You sound like a butthurt libertarian. Public schooling having been incepted since the fucking mid 19th century
>>70174293
>having borders is racist
Hardly, it's the nativist fear-mongering and absurd fear-mongering of foreigners that is used to justify borders that concerns most decent people.
>looking out for their own interests is nazi
No problem with looking for ones interests, the problem is doing it at the cost of minority groups who have been systemically oppressed in a society.
>building a wall is literally another holocaust
Oy gevalt, the hyperbole here is stupid. But then again so is building a wall when the resources expounded and political capital spent literally will do nothing about half of the illegal immigrants in this country coming from over-stayed visas, not an unsecured border.
>>70171553
Hitlers platform didn't explicitly blame the Jew's at first. He promised to fix the economy and punish the "November Criminals" who led Germany into defeat in WWI and set up the Weimar Republic. Jews started filtering in only after he came closer to power.
>>70182676
>5. trump loves military veterans, which include a disproportionately high amount of minorities.
>hitler did not like minorities and certainly didn't have them in his army.
Hitler had the most diverse military in WW2.
>>70182676
>9. trump's first wife wants him to become the president of the united states.
>hitler's first wife committed suicide 40 hours after they got married.
>10. trump assured the audience in a recent republican debate that there is nothing wrong with his penis.
>hitler only had 1 testicle.
ooohh burn. Hitler BTFO.
>>70182676
>2. trump is anti war unless in self defense, as proved by his opposition to the iraq war.
>hitler loved conquering other counties.
Hitler's wars were mostly last resort.
Poland was killing ethnic Germans and mocking him.
Russia was planning to attack all of Europe, Hitler wanted to surprise attack them before they were ready.
France and England declared war on him.
He knew the U.S.A.was getting involved after what Japan did so he made it look like it was a planned move by him so his people don't panic.
>>70182676
>1. trump wants all law abiding citizens to be able to own a gun.
>hitler banned his citizens from owning guns.
Actually Hitler allowed Germans to own guns. He banned Jews, commies, and degenerates from owning guns for obvious reasons.
>>70187532
Your attempt at magnanimity just sounds like bullshit pandering. Borders are not an issue of fear, but of reasonable doubt.
Systematically oppressed? Prove that
You assume that the physical wall is the only measure that would be implemented. Increased volition of the border patrol and ability to deport would be the secondary aspect to a physical wall
>>70171553
Boy howdy those 1%ers sure are greedy.
>>70183617
that filename made me kek
>>70171553
Strawman logic all around.
You want a secure southern border to keep criminals and drug traffickers that are gauging our country in money?
THAT MEANS YOU HATE ALL MEXICANS!
There was a massive terrorist attack somewhere that killed almost 200 people recently and you think that migration should be held off until the government comes up with a safer way to vet for terrorists?
THAT MEANS YOU HATE ALL MUSLIMS!
>>70187854
>reasonable doubt
>Trump cites immigrants bringing rape and crime when first generation immigrants actually commit crime at lower rates than natives
>Literally endless fear-mongering done by right-wing ideologues like Trump throughout Europe.
>Systemically oppressed? Prove that
>Implying there haven't been institutions keeping people of color at lower quality of life due to implicit biases (see tests on black vs white name for employers calling back) and literal racist policies (see crack punishement disparity, weed incarceration among blacks despite equal use among races, actual housing policies that despite ending in 1960's literally prevented all black people from growing their wealth in good housing
>Implying this is ending anytime soon
>physical wall is the only measure that would be implemented
It would still cost a ton in terms of production (since all steel for existing fences comes from China, which Trump would push a tariff on) and literally still prevent no tresspassing. If you increase the guarding large enough to make a serious difference, have fun paying for the largest expansion of government employment in decades.
>>70188072
W- what? A contract is not free money that the government gives corporations, it means they're BUYING something from them. All that lobby spending just means they get first dibs. In what universe does that count as corporate welfare?
>>70185357
He's a German and so doesn't know any better. They don't actually teach anything in German schools.
>>70171553
>pointing out scapegoats
Germany literally got better after they got rid of the jews.
>>70171553
Someone is a retard that doesn't realize Trump = Eisenhower 2.0
>Operation Wetback was a system of tactical control and cooperation within the U.S. Border Patrol and alongside the Mexican government. Planning between the INS, led by Gen. Joseph Swing as appointed by President Eisenhower
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback
>>70187222
They do coincide with someone adhering to leftist ideology. You would have shit for brains if you think being a vegetarian is non-political, how ignorant and naive are you?
Astrology is most certainly used by those ruled by emotion and lacking the application of logic. Since he was using astrological predictions in how to wage war, that is most certainly, loony-tunes leftism.
He was also a drug addict, you want to show your stupidity and make the assertion drug addiction is not political? Which so happens to be, once again...a trait of one that embraces leftism. Liberals have a tendency to lack self control.
>>70188748
they give these companies $30, 50, 100 million extra for lobbying? so they don't have to be competitive? now thats welfare
>>70189076
H&R Block, 350 million taxpayer dollars to the free enterprise crew?
remember. every man for themselves, right?
>>70171553
Lock and load burger. It's time to this out the Gene pool. Go shoot up your school.
>>70171553
Question his claims. What actions illustrate his bigotry? Once you start asking questions, you see the liberal argumentation is paper thin with no solid foundation, all regurgitation and groupthink.
>>70175079
>blacks were spearchuckers before whites
>blacks are spearchuckers after whites
And it still somehow is our fault that you act like animals? Fucking nigger
>>70171553
You can argue that anyone with a direct or instinctual knowledge of the dynamics of power will inevitably turn bigotry back into something that's acceptable when it's done by the "right" people to the "wrong" people.
So by that metric, even moderate social justice is like Hitler.
See how easy that is? To compare people to Hitler? That's why doing so is an Internet joke.
>>70184642
We ebil nazis support him because he's not a cuck, I don't know stormags' reason.
>>70188463
All the implications come from you and the way debate works is that the one that infers carry's the burden of proof
Reasonable doubt is a fair argument in this situation where expatriot citizens have the requirement of proving their usefulness.
Provide sources that first generation immigrants having lower crime rates. In fact provide
sources for all you erroneous claims
>>70182676
Never seen this brainwashed kike in my life
also computers, medical, drugs. basically we have socialism for the 1%
check your own state
http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/subsidy-tracker
trump took 1 subsudy that more than most ppl will make in their life
>>70190490
2 subsidies state and local
>>70175856
Maybe they could start at home first by fixing the infrastructure whites provided and they ruined because they don't understand basic concepts like cars need petrol. Really can't wait for these guys to be brain surgeons.
>>70171553
Bernie is exactly like Hitler because they both have platforms based on bigotry and scapegoating.
Hillary is like Hitler because etc.
Every candidate has views that can be construed as bigoted and every candidate scapegoats.
It's part of appealing to a voting base.
"Trump Is Literally Hitler" is lazy, because he's nothing like Hitler, you can find other less than savory politicians he actually IS like, but saying;
>Man, Trump Is Like Berlusconi
Will leave most retarded millenials scratching their heads.
>>70171553
>sensationalist
>wanted to end the jew world order
pick one
>>70191135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWuAct1BxHU&nohtml5=False
>>70191423
>Maybe they could start at home first by fixing the infrastructure whites provided
infrastructure wasn't built for them
>>70171553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqTyksj7PKs
>>70182676
>hitler's first wife committed suicide 40 hours after they got married.
Good one. Got a chuckle out of me.
>>70171553
I would be curious what that person actually know about Hilter, besides what they were indoctrinated with in public education centers.
>>70189699
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW070215A.htm
>>70171553
Hitler literally ran the same platform as Sanders.
>government healthcare
>increase minimum wage
>pro choice
>blamed problems on the rich
>indoctrinated the youth
Sanders is LITERALLY a leftist Hitler in all regards to their platforms.
>>70174459
the whites- the english, british, russian, german, etc- are the scariest of any race because history has proven their acts of genocide, incarceration, internment/concentration camps, starvation of own people, and mass extermination in various ways. and in our own country today a form of genocide has occurred (in flint; the man in charge is white) and how the hell he is not hanged is beyond my comprehension. Medieval times had many applausable solutions to thieves, evils, or adultery- a public hanging for the common person to view or the guillotine- get it done quick and easy- not let pain take hold and engulf you for many months/years on end. One who harms innocent lives/poverty stricken communities should be dealt with the utmost punishment- immediate death, no remorse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU&nohtml5=False
