https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_vult
All races welcomed in this crusade, our forefathers saw beyond race and so shall we.
Stormfags not welcomed.
Paid Sanders/Soros shills will be roundly BTFO in this thread.
This transcends our genetic differences. We shall recruit all brothers to fight against the Islamic invasion of the West, as we have done before.
Memetic warfare is our current weapon, but it will turn to firearms when the time is right.
The police and military of the cucked European countries will turn against the elected Marxists soon enough, and know that your American brethren are here supporting you abroad.
D E U S V U L T
>>70183089
>>70183316
>>70183372
All freedom-loving peoples will unite in arms against the Marxist left. You can only rape and ruin so many young children's lives before the brainwashing becomes undone.
>>70183595
Have another bump. Moves must continue to be made to work against the meme Christianity that turns people that should be fighting evil into suicidal pacifists. 'Meme magic' is a gift.
Straight up, I have already said that if trump is elected, I give it six months before I run some durky through with his own sword...
>>70183089
We need help from our European allies to help battle against the Muslim Kingdoms of Indonesia and Malaysia!
The Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Taoists, Confiucians are with you against Mudslime Muslims.
Remove Kebab
Deus Vult
>>70183946
Deus vult based bro
>was baptized last Saturday on Easter vigil
>best fucking feeling ever
Thinking of joining Opus Dei or the Knights Of Columbus
>>70183089
Alright Anon, you've been shilling for this thread on others, so, SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT?
GIVE ME YOUR DAnK A$$ MayMAYS.
>>70183877
what the fuck are you on about? if trump is elected the problem is solved, this thread is about preparing ourselves for the inevitable hilary presidency and by extension the inevitable refugee influx
>>70184078
checkem
>>70183946
Truly a global problem, will need united voices from all corners to present a strong front against the masses of progressive retards.
>>70183089
Ok, I'm here faggot.
What do you want?
>>70184126
Consider the possibility that he is the nwo contingency for allowing the right wing to vent possibly game changing frustrations into controlled opposition. After OWS you had eight years of pacifying the easily ignited left, now its the right's turn. With a return to center politics over another decade, globalist agendas and a further divide from constitutional principles continues.
Or he really could be a genuine character, certainly hope so.
>>70184267
realize that there are shitloads of non-whites who want the same that we do, end the actual racism and take back Western freedom from the elite Marxists
daily reminder there are as many billionaire WASP fucks who create chaos as there are Jews
t. WASP
>>70184078
PREPARE FOR DANK FEELS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rg8innCuN4
Are atheists welcome? I love liberty and hate Marxists and Muslims.
I started to tweet a lot about George Soros recently and shortly after I got shadowbanned.
ALOLHUE KEKBAR!
MEME WAR NOW!
>>70184205
saved
awesome
weak agnostic here
DEUS VULT
I'm more of a Rahowa guy
Am I welcome?
>>70183089
Reminder that there's nothing Christian about worldliness and murder~
>>70184644
Reminder that self defense and the idea of a 'just war' is not considered murder when there is no other option to stop evil running rampant
>>70184644
>blindly ignoring precedent
look at my OP, all shills and slides will be dealt with on the spot, I'm going nowhere.
>>70184760
Reminder that there is no such thing as just war~
>>70184787
>blindly following precedent, especially precedent set by idiots
Lel~
>>70184418
>realize that there are shitloads of non-whites who want the same that we do,
No, there's not.
When it comes to topics like keeping Europe white or for white people, only white people have a vested interest in making that happen.
Stop being a fucking retard.
It's like marketing children's toys to adults.
>>70184581
>>70184812
thank you for bumping my thread and posting what you are posting, this is amazing for our cause, because you are unironic.
do me a favor and move to Molenbeek in Brussels, those people value free-thinking individuals such as yourself
>>70183089
>D E U S V U L T
>>70183089
>>70184812
I think I will go with the interpretations of Augustine, Aquinas, Suarez and Vitoria as opposed to an anime poster trying to seed pacifism in the face of a cultural, religious and demographic invasion
>The just war tradition via Augustine, Aquinas, Suarez and Vitoria – some of the greatest names in the western intellectual canon – sees war as an instrument of policy, as a means of securing change. The doctrine does not assume that war is per se evil; and if it doesn't believe war can ever be intrinsically good, it foresees that, in the right circumstances and subject to the right conditions, war can be a necessary and sometimes the only means of preventing evil.
>>70184964
Why don't you move there instead? You can assist Abdul in fucking goats~
>>70184906
>I never talk to non-whites
I spit this same game to all races and I see the light-bulb go off. we live in a democracy and we need to band together with other races against the """"""progressive""""" left.
you're either a shill or just too stupid to understand this.
Islam is a problem wherever it spreads because it is also a political ideology on top of being a religion. It is a complete way of life which goes beyond the scope of personal freedom, which is why it does not mix at all with a free society in which it tries to accrue special privileges for itself.
It also fucks societies that aren't free, as they're not compatible with Islam either.
>>70185075
It's funny that you accept excuses rather than the words of your actual God~
“Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.”
“Do not use force against an evil man.”
“Do not resist evil with evil.”
“Forgive and you will be forgiven.”
“Do not be anxious about your life.”
"He who lives by the sword will perish by the sword.”
“In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.”
“Do not return evil for evil.”
“Overcome evil with good.”
“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”
~
>>70184906
You're the child if you can't see how using softened logic or mutually beneficial logic to gain supporters that work against the main tools of suppression and control from progressives (being white) is not a net gain for nationalism, or race realism
They will be neutered minorities if they help you achieve what you want, both having the same enemies.
DEUS VULT
>>70185094
Soros and Bernie shills are using tripfag and anime consistency to lend credence to their posts, be advised my fellow DVers
>my OP explicitly identifies Islam as a clear and present danger to the West
>he false-flags with turbo-autism white pride bullshit
god damn, I guess the new paid shill move is to tripfag? it might work on others but i'm right here buddy, and I will continue to BTFO any slides/shills that try to derail this organic movement.
>>70185503
>Soros and Bernie shills are using tripfag and anime consistency to lend credence to their posts
>>70185307
>>70185094
>>70184840
>>70184812
bump this thread if you hate this current iteration of """"liberalism""""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
>in b4 wikipedia
even wikipedia clearly states that the current leftists are at complete odds with what the movement used to be about, that's fucking embarrassing
do they pay you per post or hourly? curious
>>70185307
>implying I'm Christian
>>70185728
You have a good sense of humor. Given that, please continue making these threads
Deus vult~
>>70185828
>implying anyone but me in this thread is Christian
>>70185307
>“Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.”
Nothing about not defending yourself. Do not lose your morality or desire to save souls for Christ when fighting evil.
>“Do not use force against an evil man.”
>“Do not resist evil with evil.”
>“Forgive and you will be forgiven.”
>“Do not be anxious about your life.”
Don't seek violence in retribution. Dont think fire + fire is going to result in less fire. Forgive your enemies and then you wont be anxious in life.
>"He who lives by the sword will perish by the sword.”
live fighting or making a living from fighting, you will die fighting - or perhaps their soul will. Nothing against self defense.
>“In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.”
I would expect others to defend their home culture and religion against my invasion, if I were to invade.
>“Do not return evil for evil.”
>“Overcome evil with good.”
Stopping something evil from happening, using violence and potentially sacrificing your own soul for the sake of keeping others from evil, is good. Its following in the steps of Christ.
>“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”
Ultimate justice is the domain of the Lord. Doesnt mean I cant defend myself.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/oct/07/just-war-church-doctrine
>>70185836
you haven't stated what you believe in, so please articulate it. you won't though, you will just reply with an anime picture and an ad hominem.
I told you shills would be BTFO and you just didn't listen did you? you've embarrassed yourself here.
>>70185877
>thinking your pacifist interpretations are the be all and end all, despite millions holding up the scriptual interpretations of saints throughout the ages as justifying the need for war / violence when evil is making gains
>>70185942
That is some severe cognitive dissonance. You *really* want to kill people, don't you? Why don't you just become a military drone? God will judge you either way.
>>70185877
Has love worked for the Copt? Has it worked for the Orthodox of the Byzantine empire?
>>70186142
>appeal to tradition + appeal to masses in the same sentence
>>70185971
Oh no I fully agree with you, obviously
Deus vult~
>>70186173
For anyone who was a Christian it's worked, yep. They're in heaven.
>>70186151
Either counter my points directly or accept that you have shown yourself incapable of defending your pacifist interpretation.
I dont want to kill.
I want peace and prosperity.
I will kill to preserve peace and prosperity, if it is the only option presented.
>>70186193
All you are is ad hominem.
>>70183089
>our forefathers saw beyond race and so shall we.
What? No they didn't
>>70186273
>heaven
Seeing as that's your concern I guess you can go there.
>>70186298
posters like him are our best ally, exposing the delusional, relative nihilism of their side
keep posting slide tripfag, you're only doing us favors
>>70186298
>implying I've made any argument through attack of character
Peace and prosperity are not for this world. You're to follow the commandments of your God, and that's it. You don't get more explicit than "do not use force against an evil man", but sin away. Sin away~
>>70186478
Yeah sometimes I wonder if they are just playing devils advocate to provoke real discussion. Either way, we're all tools of Christ ;)
>>70186460
Yep, I plan on it.
>>70186418
the armenians and coptic christians? whatever just tattoo a swastika on your face just as the kikes want you to.
and only white people fought in WW1, WW2, and vietnam, right?
you're a clown
even the union army had black regiments
even though we segregated we were all on the same side, and we still are. look at my OP, stormfags not allowed.
>>70186534
Your interpretation is pacifist and suicidal in nature.
>Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own, you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).
If you see a problem that is threatening your body, your life. But you choose inaction because of progressive ideals you want to integrate into your interpretation of scripture, essentially choosing to be killed through inaction. Are you not choosing suicide?
You act as if the idea of righteous violence / a just war is a ticket to hell. You would watch as people are murdered because you are too concerned for your own soul.
You're a narcissist masquerading as an altruist.
>>70186842
It's also the *OBVIOUS* interpretation. So much so that any other interpretation is fucking intellectually dishonest and cowardly as *all fuck*.
I have hardcore conservative values - calling me a progressive is utterly laughable.
>>70186842
It's not just that.
In Islam, you can't convert to Christianity. What this pacifist is effectively saying is that he has no problem with an ideology that will basically make in impossible for anyone else in the future to get saved.
I don't believe in any of this shit but that sounds like a retarded thing to do if you're a Christian.
>>70186933
>its the *OBVIOUS* interpretation
>So much so that any other interpretation is fucking intellectually dishonest and cowardly as *all fuck*.
You havent argued any logic there, you have just said "it's what all my friends believe, therefore if you think otherwise, you're a coward".
At least try and think critically here, this is your faith we're discussing here. How can you call me intellectually dishonest when you have still been unable to deconstruct any argument or offer logic to counter it?
>>70187035
I really wish he would follow his own logic to the end, instead of where his community says its ok.
>>70187326
>you have just said "it's what all my friends believe, therefore if you think otherwise, you're a coward"
Things nobody argued for 200!
Hilarious.
>>70186756
I hope you get shot by a nigger because he was holding his gun sideways
>>70187470
>It's also the *OBVIOUS* interpretation. So much so that any other interpretation is fucking intellectually dishonest and cowardly as *all fuck*.
DEUS VULT
>>70187632
>"it's what his friend's believe, therefore...!"
Things nobody argued for 400!
>>70187326
>/pol/ doesn't hate niggers
Why do catholicucks always think they can speak for everyone is this board?
>>70187757
>It's also the *OBVIOUS* interpretation.
so you're either arguing that your sole interpretation is correct because its the most obvious to you, effectively saying you are more of a biblical scholar than st augistine for instance
or you're saying that you belong to a community consensus that believes it to be the most obvious interpretation
granted I went with the second assumption, because I didnt think you would be so stupid to try and argue that because you have one interpretation in a sea of conflicting ones, it is obviously the right one.
>>70187789
Racial realism is a potent force here. You would know that if you were posting before zimmerman pulled in a retard level of literal children eager to post edgy memes without any sort of comprehension, a situation that stormfront jumped on. To say that /pol/ doesnt hate niggers is fucking retarded, that pic just has some nice sentiments and I am randomly picking related media.
>>70187789
>>70183089
>>>/b/
>>70188054
>appeal to authority
>appeal to consensus
I'm saying you trying to say "do not use force against an evil man" means anything other than *DO NOT USE FORCE AGAINST AN EVIL MAN* is fucking retarded, and you are a dick-sucking faggot or else an INCREDIBLY dishonest sin-filled queer-bag to pretend otherwise just because you can't handle the implications you aid-ridden cock-mongler! LMAOMAOAMALMALAMO
>>70183089
>We shall recruit all brothers
>>70184575
I'd say all are welcome that seek the peace we do
>>70188285
>devolved into full blown ad hominem while not offering any sort of actual logic
>appeal to authority
>appeal to consensus
You do realise these are your own arguments?
Please explain how its "obvious" and the fact that its authority stems from how obvious it is without justifying it as either your own interpretation based on logical deconstruction, or said analysis being the cumulative effort of a group of like minded scholars.
not really surprising from someone that relies on smug anime girls as half his argument.
>>70188270
>>70183089
agnostic mexi here, I'm down to kill some muslims
>>70188541
There's no logic to interpreting "do not use force against an evil man" as "do not use force against an evil man". Yeah. You nailed it. Nailed. It.
>>70183089
>The police and military of the cucked European countries will turn against the elected Marxists
>Marxist
This is where you're fucking up.
The Muslim invasion is the result of Cultural Capitalism, not "Marxism".
The last time Marxists were in power was in the Soviet Union. How many Soviet cities were over run by Muslims? None.
Capitalism is the problem.
>>70188628
Yeah, that was /pol/ 2013, nobody misses that old stormfaggy /pol/
>>70188675
You're facetious and offer nothing but sarcasm in place of logic to counter any dissenting interpretation. Are you from the bible belt?
>>70183089
Anyone who wants to quickly find """coincidences""", https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/coincidence-detector/hldnghbakgkgeocjllocmpobpppkfepo?hl=en-US
>>70188798
You're disingenuous and weasel-like and try to worm your way out of pretending your God is totally okay with you blatantly violating His commandments when it suits your fancy =)
>>70188304
I don't judge someone because they sin differently than me, brother. Welcome aboard.
>>70188727
mate the stormfags only blew up because they won the meme game against non existent opponents once /b/ showed up en mass looking for another dorner.
that image was late into the game already, two years worth of race realism from all fronts.
we're just recently coming back to a point where brain dead racism for the sake of it is not the focus
>>70188900
All you are is ad hominem and smug anime girls. Notice that you now have two to promote the idea that its a group opinion, that it carries social weight. You're pretty pathetic, anon. I am tired of going in circles with you... guess you 'win' via attrition
Historia itera, ad infinitum. Non agnoscunt, sed agnosco. Armate, ne fiet noster mundus nequior.
>>70188941
/pol/ is much more MGTOW now, back then you could get an overwhelming majority for some Deus Vult faggotry. Now you will get a majority for going your own way or for blaming it on women's suffrage.
Get over it, Deus Vult brotherhood doesn't exist.
>>70189042
You can pretend all you'd like. The Almighty God of All Creation will judge you regardless.
I think you'll be found wanting.
>>70189096
>/pol/ is much more MGTOW now,
fucking kek mate
there is definitely a contingent of /r9k/ queers, yes.
that is definitely not the majority of /pol/ though, I see far more posts from anons that are in relationships / have children than those advocating a mtgow lifestyle.
>>70188304
if you're a homosexual, do that in private and don't encourage the youth to follow the path.
i'm sorry you're too shortsighted to see that Christianity accepts flaws and sins, i will gladly strap up some homos with AR-15's who are down for the cause. it's about freedom, not some autistic worldview wherein everyone is the same.
Deus Vult.
>>70189145
I know I am going to be judged. God knows my logic is sincere. I am not afraid as I know when it comes, it was always going to.
>>70189233
Sincerity isn't a virtue when you're sincere in your violation of God's commandments. Enjoy judgment.
>>70189295
can you just go to bed already? you do realize you're helping us by being such a retarded faggot?
respond to this question, are you pro-refugee?
>>70189295
Isn't pride one of the deadly sins anon?
Btw the commandment is not to murder. Self defense != murder.
>>70189393
No - if you want to help them, help them where they are. Don't pillage people and redistribute it and pretend you're being kind and charitable.
You need more cute anime girls in your life~
>>70189485
Do not use force against an evil man.
>>70189295
Australia is the one that's supposed to be shitposting, you idiot.
>>70189515
>Don't pillage people and redistribute it and pretend you're being kind and charitable.
No one is suggesting that. Taking control away from corruption and attempting to promote peace and prosperity is not akin to invading and raping, pillaging then destroying a society
and you say you're not a progressive wanker, kek
>>70189638
That's what's happening in Europe. The European governments are pillaging their populations of wealth and offering it to Muslim migrants as bait.
You read that post completely fucking wrong, which is unsurprising since you're about as articulate as a middleschooler.
>>70183842
DEUS VULT!!
>>70189738
>That's what's happening in Europe. The European governments are pillaging their populations of wealth and offering it to Muslim migrants as bait.
how do you post this shit and not be down for this cause? i'm blowing the divisive tactics wide open here and you're still clinging to this idealistic notion of "white homeland" it seems.
the current western society depends on democracy, and we need to get as many people on our side as we can. hardcore shilling right here, but trump is the best candidate to make that happen.
we can incorporate all illegals and give them dank benefits to be productive citizens, but that policy will backfire completely if we have open borders, and we will be New Sweden (yes sweden).
It's not about Mexicans, the border is already there, if you come from Guatemala and want to come here you need to pay a fat toll fee to the cartels running the game. In case that isn't clear, the badass cartels are running the game and you can't just walk into the US without dishing out a decent wad of cash or carrying a fat load of heroin with you.
The true problem is ISIS-Loyalists coming in, they have the funding to bribe the cartels to get in. That's the reason why we need a
>WALL
>>70190271
Because "do not use force against an evil man" is pretty damn clear.
>>70189738
Your problem is you operate within vague statements then move the goal posts when you're called out on something that is inconsistent or retarded.
>>70189543
!= allow yourself to be killed in the face of mortal danger
why would Jesus have asked the disciples to arm themselves only to stop a sword from being used if not to illustrate the necessity of self defense but the danger of unnecessary violence?
your interpretation revolves around one quote within a vacuum where as the idea of self defense exists around it.
>>70190271
its all about opium and heroin
drug, weapon and human smuggling
notice the trade routes
>>70190346
lol you think you have a silver bullet there to tackle any sort of argument dont you, you replied to that literally 2 seconds after he posted it. You didnt even read it.
how is building a wall to stop people from coming so close to you that it can result in "force against an evil man" using force against an evil man? How is it bad considering
>But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
>-Matthew 24:43
you're a troll trying to keep people from actually getting proactive, keeping them in lower levels of apathy.
>>70190409
>vague statements
>do not use force against an evil man
Pick one.
>!= allow yourself to be killed in the face of mortal danger
Do not use force against an evil man... except when you do.
t. genius Australian theology
>>70189738
>we have to make up for colonialism and give reparations from people long since dead give justice to people long since dead.
>even though every single race has had a massive slave trade and a few horrific actions to their names, Indians scalped, Chinese revolutionized torture, Japanese marched south, Turks genocide and then deny it, Arabs created the first empire after Rome and routinely raided, massacred and enslaved Europeans for hundreds of years prior the Crusades.
>but we should know better than those poor minority savages so all must not feel proud of their nations history - SHAME
>we are ashamed of our own success and culture to the point we handicap and debase ourselves on behalf of the thinnest skinned cucks with a voice in a international oppression olympics
Modern White Guilt in a nutshell.
>>70189169
Lol, implying you would know whether a poster has a gf. And even if, MGTOW is far more than about girlfriends.
>>70190346
God gave you a brain to use to think further than the words on a page. Yet you only repeat the same thing and don't reflect. Why? You won't change this person's mind with your argumentative skills, so why are you still here, follower of Christ?
>>70190556
I'm using a whole slew of verses, most of which are at the beginning of the thread, so pretending I'm only selecting one is fucking hilariously disingenuous. I'm using the one I'm using because it's the most fucking *blatantly* clear to your weasel-like mind, that wants to at all costs avoid implications it doesn't find palatable, like that God commands you to die before you disobey Him.
>>70190564
As said, taken in context of all of Christ's teachings, that could be interpreted as saying "do not seek violence against those you interpret to be evil", it is not enough to destroy the idea of Christian self defense. Nothing but circles with you. No doubt you will seek the last word, but if there isnt an argument there, dont expect to bait me further.
>>70190590
Yeah, that's the common progressive European mindset.
>>70189220
>i'm sorry you're too shortsighted to see that Christianity accepts flaws and sins
Fuck off /pol/, Christfag.
>>70190590
this is the fault of public educate brainwashing and corporate education and textbook publishers
but the internet will kill them off soon enough
Protect the internet and its shit posting at all costs
>>70190756
Taken in Christ of all of Christ's teachings, I think it means exactly what it says. I think your interpretation is very, very wrong, and you'll be judged for being so wrong by God Almighty.
>>70190645
the posters here present it as a "dont need pussy, dont need marriage, just need to work on myself and develop my own goals (as if they are mutually exclusive) and maybe even seek love and sexual satisfaction from males, who are my equals" movement
>>70183946
Deus Vult from your Catholic lads
>>70190852
And you will be judged for the pride that has closed your mind.
>>70190723
yeah and you completely disregarded my response to each verse by passing it off as cognitive dissonance: >>70185942
>>70190919
Pretty sure you're the one with a pridefully closed mind. We'll both find out in the end, won't we~
>>70190882
MGTOWs don't go on a crusade defending a feminist shithole that the West has become.
Vultfags and Christfags are regularly the target of ridicule at /pol/.
>>70190882
MGTOW is a self sacrificing mission because you are going to have to speak your mind and piss off a lot of people, as well as equally dedicate your time to reading and learning and self improvement in order to essentially infiltrate the left wing brainwashing and gate intelligence/ or set up opposing news media and journals,
or go even further and run for political office which MGTOW will not have to worry about sex scandals or being caught in a lie
>>70191102
>MGTOWs don't go on a crusade defending a feminist shithole that the West has become.
And most Western men wouldn't either.
>>70190997
>Don't seek violence in retribution. Dont think fire + fire is going to result in less fire. Forgive your enemies and then you wont be anxious in life
In the face of "do not use force against an evil man" and "do not resist and evil man" is fucking laughably wrong. Resisting isn't retribution - it's self-defense. When a man punches you in the face, you sit there and take it, and don't return evil with evil. That's what God is saying and you *know it*. Quake - judgement comes sooner than we all expect.
Any good latin choir music with or without an organ?
>>70191144
>you are going to have to speak your mind and piss off a lot of people
>>70191037
I am actively seeking truth through logic. If you can present an actual argument that takes into account all of Christs teachings that says self defense is not allowed, instead of relying on one verse in a vacuum, then by all means I'll chase that line of logic. I am sincere in my desire for understanding. You are comfortable with your current interpretation and seek to push it onto others without backing it up with logic.
Promise this is my last response, I don't want to waste any more time on you. God bless.
>>70191144
sounds like we're all in the same boat against a common enemy mate. I understand that "the enemy of my enemy is not my friend", but then again we have more things in common than not, that being we're trying to save our common culture.
>>70191229
NRx
I feel we are indeed entering the dark enlightenment
what is amazing is how MGTOW is now being understood by pol
and NRx is the next level after MGTOW
>>70191248
If you want me to sit here and recite the entirety of the Gospels to you, I'm not going to do that. You can read them yourself. If you can *honestly* come away from reading the Gospels and thinking Christ wants you to slaughter Muslims over scraps of land, I pity you *immensely* for the judgement you'll receive.
I very highly doubt you've ever read the whole Bible - most "Christians" haven't.
>Rage and sorrow are seated in my heart...so firmly that I scarce dare to stay alive. It seems that God wishes to support the Turks to our loss...ah, lord God...alas, the realm of the East has lost so much that it will never be able to rise up again. They will make a Mosque of Holy Mary's convent, and since the theft pleases her Son, who should weep at this, we are forced to comply as well...Anyone who wishes to fight the Turks is mad, for Jesus Christ does not fight them any more. They have conquered, they will conquer. For every day they drive us down, knowing that God, who was awake, sleeps now, and Muhammad waxes powerful.
9th crusade against the saracens soon :D
>>70183089
>needs a crusade to get rid of refugees and immigrants
Have you tried the peaceful way? Convincing people to vote for trump, voting trump, trying to vote trump again etc
You guys look like you're just trying turn more dumb muzzies into ISIS recruits
>>70191155
Why would Jesus allow the use of swords? Why not tell them to leave the swords at home if the point was to say that all violence is unacceptable? Why make a point out of stopping an unnecessary use of it?
I know I said I wouldnt respond but now you're actually starting to back up your arguments. Is that a common tactic of yours, to whittle your opponents resolve away with facetious trolling only to then start taking actual stabs once you think they are gone?
>>70183595
Can we still rape mudslime women and children of the enemy, senpai?
>>70191445
>Christ wants you to slaughter Muslims over scraps of land
I didn't ever suggest that.
>>70190346
so if you saw a muslim raping a young girl, you wouldnt help her by using force against the rapist? its like you cant understand the difference between initiating force and responding to it.
>>70191507
Because beasts literally roamed the roads.
>>70191538
Everybody sins anon
All get what is coming to them in the end
>>70191596
Got anything to back up that interpretation?
>>70184205
Will we return eugenics senpai? Killing retards, disable and low iq it's cool on my book
>>70191705
Only if you're ok with potentially being caught up as an undesirable when the focus turns beyond disease and disability ;)
>>70191468
But headless muzzies can't turn into IS recruits, dear Muhammad.
>>70191538
>mexican
>raping someone
You're not welcome on the next crusade
>>70191541
Christ was tortured and eventually crucified by Romans, and never once raised a hand. All the commands reflected in the New Testament of Christ speak of pacifism. The explicit commands, and the context. You are not to resist an evil man. You are to turn to an evil man the other cheek should he strike you on the first. You are to respond to evil (physical violence) with goodness (kindness and forgiveness).
>>70191355
The mainstream media is the problem
new media and the internet is a threat to them and the weapons are memes
journalism is dead and social media is the new civil society
and privacy is being threatened
IDK about globalization one world government or the nature of borders being built on economics, but the fact that Western civilization as it has extended form the enlightenment has resulted in the history of Europe, American and French revolutions, industrialism and colonization is probably why we feel similar
yet I also feel it can be felt by all humans, but the pos cold war thaw got blown up with 9/11 setting off a new East vs West civilization conflict in the ME and SE asia
its eastern sexuality, gender politics, religion, economic systems and lax business regulations/ practices
and the global drug, weapon and human trafficking trade
>>70191682
Since
“Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.”
“Do not use force against an evil man.”
“Do not resist evil with evil.”
“Forgive and you will be forgiven.”
“Do not be anxious about your life.”
"He who lives by the sword will perish by the sword.”
“In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.”
“Do not return evil for evil.”
“Overcome evil with good.”
“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”
the natural consequence is that the sword must be for beasts (which where historically an *actual* problem for travelers in Biblical times).
>>70191581
>don't be a white knight bro
and how many MGTOW are former white knights...
>>70186298
This guy gets it
>>70191814
>defending Chruch=/=defending yourself
Once they start to oppress our whole Church is game time
>>70191959
Quote me a verse where Christ says you should use violence against people because they do evil.
>>70191814
>and never once raised a hand
Didn't he banish those Jews at the temple with his vampire killer?
>>70191814
>>70191880
you're repeating yourself a lot here.
Yes, Christ allowed himself to be captured, tortured and murdered for us.
He also used force to eject money lenders.
In context of everything, I truly believe self defense and just violence to be in line with belief with Christ.
We will always disagree.
Your suicidal pacifist nature might lead to a situation where you might not survive to perpetuate your interpretation.
>>70183089
>Deus vult
>>70192008
So does Holy Spirit not speak throught Saints ? You obviously don't understand, Muslims are not mere men, they are literally devil spawns. I think violence against them is even more justified when you look what they believe in, Hell isn't be enough for those people.
>>70191814
m8 there was a lot more to the crucifixion than pacifism, if it was Mary getting crucified on the cross the story would have been a lot different. A planet of pacifists is a paradise, but add one warlord and the experiment fails. You do not shy away from whats right and call it righteous to excuse your cowardly behavior.
It was partly because the fucking Jewish Prophecies about the messiah would be fulfilled with his death and resurrection. Partly because what would it prove? The message and word of God lived on to sway nations and death was naught but a inconvenience.
>>70192114
Christ didn't touch anyone with the dealers in the temple. He also knew those men's hearts, and more importantly was *God Himself in the flesh* and had the authority to judge men.
>Your suicidal pacifist nature might lead to a situation where you might not survive to perpetuate your interpretation
Sure - I'd love to die a martyr. Whether I live or die, I'll still be right, and God knows it.
>>70192227
Tell me where you find justification to believe God speaks to "saints".
>>70191869
Mainstream media is definitely the most potent drug utilised against the masses
which is why I think the whole 'gamergate' fiasco blew up to international proportions where they were pushing their narrative even on radio stations here with interviews
they were losing control of a very important propaganda tool.
memes are a great weapon. What a time to be alive
>>70192240
Christianity isn't about this world. It's about the next. Christians are moral absolutists - the Words of God are inviolable, else you drench your soul in sin. We are not pragmatists in the slightest - the woes of this world are irrelevant to the immortal soul.
>>70192086
>>70192259
God knows you believe you are right, whether you are or not. The fact you feel as though you dont have to constantly ponder the true meaning of what was given by
> *God Himself in the flesh*
suggests to me that your main deal is pride.
>>70192259
Yes He did, He whipped them.
>>70192330
Go away protestant
>>70191800
Nah man this cleansing will return the status quo of the nations, after the dust settles is everyone back to their right country, niggers to Africa, whites go Europe and North America, Asians to Asia, Hispanics to latín america, everyone living in harmony on their respective lands.
>>70192398
What sect are you? I legitimately want to read up on your churches doctrine / interpretations of the faith.
>>70192420
Great answer.
>>70192410
>>70192331
see this meme right here
this is dangerous…..
>>70192398
Self-sacrifice for a noble cause is the noblest of actions.
Sacrificing your friends and family because you are totally opposed to violence is not only naive but incredibly selfish.
You walk in on your mother being raped, are you going to pray for a different outcome or throw a punch?
>>70192410
fucking lol
>>70192478
Obviously part of some bixnood-sect
>>70192493
If you call Church's Saints "saints" you are as good as being a muslim
>>70191445
Hello mr Praceteom
Do you know what is best thing in Christianity?
The fact that I can kill by thousands, feel remorse, and go to heaven anyway, because Christ redeemed my sins.
Apply that to soldiers in upcoming Christian-Muslim war and we are good to go.
Also, implying you are only christian in this thread is incredibly stupid
>>70192501
It's just what we need ;)
>>70192508
>Sacrificing your friends and family because you are totally opposed to violence is not only naive but incredibly selfish
Couldn't have said it any better.
>>70192547
>bixnood
Will never tire of that
>>70192411
You want to insist "do not resist evil with evil" and "do not use force against an evil man", and other clear verses mean something completely different than what they say. You can read them *all* in context - they mean exactly what they say. You don't want that to be true because it's hard for you to accept. That doesn't make you any less wrong.
Now, *COULD* you be right? Sure - those verses could mean something entirely different from what they say. I'm not betting on that. I hope you don't either, for your soul's sake.
>>70192478
I don't belong to a sect at all.
>>70191933
>>70192508
which may explain the MGTOW phenomenon
you are opposed to violence but don't want any friends or family to be threatened by the peers that be
>>70192478
I think a place to start that even I only just learned about would be the Council of Chalcedon, which led to the big schism between East and Western Christianity,
also understand that the division of the Roman Empire played a big role in the Crusades as well
>>70183089
I've been looking around using the google search engine, but I can't find the deus vault anywhere, is it even in fallout 4? I bet it's not and someone found it in the game code or something.
>>70192456
>>70192501
>warning: dangerous memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwypeJzAkE
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a whip.
>>70192699
Here we go, a feelgood-christian!
>>70192508
You can't sacrifice something else by inaction. When you sacrifice something, you actively do it - you slaughter a lamb, you give your wealth and time. You don't sacrifice something by not returning murder with murder - if someone wants to take from you, that sin is theirs alone so long as you don't return evil with evil.
I'll never throw a punch. I'll quite literally die before I disobey my God.
>>70192568
You can believe that all you'd like.
>>70192547
Great argument, Cucklic.
>>70192722
* powers that be
and you know that with speaking your mind you will probably end up blowing up a lot of relationships and you don't want to hurt others or put yourself through mental anguish of loosing friends, but you have an inner peace at the same time
honestly I think it will kind of be like a 21st century monks, except we don't live in monasteries, yet….
could universities and academia be considered an equivalent?
>>70192654
Perhaps it is because I am an imperfect human, but I don't think I could sit and watch the death or murder against loved ones / innocents and not act. There are numerous verses that pull and push in both directions. I choose to acknowledge those that enable violence, along with those that decry it. That is why I believe in "just war".
>>70192699
Then we seem to be perfect adversaries in Christ.
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Except if they are Jews.
>>70192816
Here we go, a Cucklic!
>The bible does not show a successor being elected and does not show that the second pope and his later ones were imbued with any special authority. All we know is that Christ chose to build his church on ST Peter and there is no reason to think that this authority somehow passes from person to person as the Catholic church teaches.
>So where do we get this notion of apostolic succession?
>We get it from church teaching and tradition.
>How do we know church teaching and tradition is reliable?
>Because the hierarchy said so.
>How do we know the hierarchy is reliable?
>because of apostolic succession.
>So Catholicism in using church tradition to justify apostolic succession, and using hierarchy to justify tradition, which is in turn justified by apostolic succession, is based on circular reasoning
>>70192888
I'm not Roman
>>70192722
Research into all of this is so interesting. Thanks.
>>70192808
>its an abstract sort of.meme
>>70192974
>Perhaps it is because I am an imperfect human
Yep - that's what I maintain. I would absolutely want to intercede, and perhaps even slaughter wholesale the perpetrator, but that would be absolutely wrong. I would be disobeying the direct commands of God. I'll not willingly sin.
>>70193009
again
the council of Chalcedon is a good place for people to start reading
pol is about to reignight biblical scholarship , unbelievable
>>70192862
It's true though, if he is sincere in his repentance. Truly sincere. Though if he planned on it to begin with, fuck who knows but Christ.
>>70193010
In that case
>lolmysticism
Woo0oOo0o0OooOooOO0o0oOOOO0o~
>>70193106
There's nothing of any consequence spoken of in Catholic texts outside the Bible. It's all malarkey.
>>70193118
I don't know how sincere a person who knowingly and intentionally sins can be. My guess is not very.
>>70193089
I am sure you sin in other aspects of life, anon. No one but Christ was without sin. In fact I would consider apathy in the face of evil a sin, yet I dont blame you for having your own understanding.. just for the having so much pride that you wont entertain other views
>>70193234
People change in life.
>>70193050
Put your whip back in its place, Jesus said to him, for all who draw the whip will die by the whip.
>>70193243
I bet I do too. Does that make any other sin less of a sin?
>>70183946
Deus Vult from Half Christian - Half Hindu
>>70193204
well the actions by church politics certainly have snowballed throughout history and has left us where we are today
same with Islam
>>70192981
kek, doing gods work son. Have a rare template.
>>70193261
Sure. Even if you're forgiven, though, you still face judgment.
>>70183089
I used to be against guns but I see now what we must do as our forebears have done.
Fight with honor against those who commit genocide on us.
>>70193009
>The bible does not show a successor being elected and does not show that the second pope and his later ones were imbued with any special authority. All we know is that Christ chose to build his church on ST Peter and there is no reason to think that this authority somehow passes from person to person as the Catholic church teaches
So?
>So where do we get this notion of apostolic succession?
From trusting Apostles
>We get it from church teaching and tradition.
2nd Letter to Thessalonians 2:15
>How do we know church teaching and tradition is reliable?
I trust people My God appointed as his Apostles
>>70193137
What?
>>70193329
I don't really care though. It's not relevant to a practicing Christian - the only thing that matters is following God's commands.
>>70193273
>>70193345
>Does that make any other sin less of a sin?
No it does not. Does someone who truly believes they aren't sinning, sinning? This applies to both of us.
>you still face judgment
I'm counting on it mate.
>>70193357
Literal circular reasoning.
>What?
Wo0o0O0ooO0oOoo~
>>70193409
>Does someone who truly believes they aren't sinning, sinning?
*Yes*.
>>70192862
>>70193118
Actually, It works like that, I asked multiple priests, read multiple religious teachings. Forgiveness of God is unending. Also, in the original translation of the bible the comandment say "do not murder", not "do not kill" See difference? Sometimes killing is the only way to defend yourself, or your loved ones.
>>70193204
>no consequence spoken of in Catholic texts outside bible
Weird stuff, Luther said that when he weakened Holy Church, are you sure you are not filthy heretic?
>>70185259
>Islam is a problem wherever it spreads because it is also a political ideology on top of being a religion
And yet Christianity has a capitol and Islam does not
>>70193425
>Wo0o0O0ooO0oOoo~
Are you having a seizure?
>>70193452
Guess that damns the entirety of humanity that hasn't heard or comprehended the word of God. Which could be interpreted as God choosing to damn them, choosing to have them live in suffering and violence, which itself could be deducted as approval of said violence when dealing with "evil" (defined as those that arent privy to the good news)
playing with ideas here.
>>70193279
I don't know how you manage but good to have you.
>>70193471
> I asked multiple priests, read multiple religious teachings.
Nice, I want to go to a few local Churches myself to discuss this with the priests soon.
>>70193471
>I asked multiple priests
>>70193550
No, we can do possible worlds for them.
Everyone gets a chance - everyone gets judged.
I'm honestly convinced the only way to solve the Muslim problem is to kill every muslim male, burn every Quran, and tear down every mosque, then resettle all the formerly muslim land and take their women as wives.
>>70193503
Mysticism is spO0oOo0oOo0oky~
We just don't know man~
God did iiiiit
>>70193474
Turkey
>>70193664
But how do you reconcile that belief with you are capable of sin even in ignorance?
>>70183089
all races? well im out, see ya guys.
>>70193562
Its not that difficult
Mom's a Hindu, Dad's a Christian
Hinduism has no compulsion on you to visit temples regularly, as long as you believe in God then that's fine
Go to Church on Sunday with Dad and once in a while go visit a Temple
Parents said that they won't force me to believe in any one religion so I just practice both
Its pretty good desu
>>70193379
your narrow mindedness will only prevent you from fully understanding the world for what it is AKA Red Pill
in order to defeat evil we have to learn about it
its the dark enlightenment
>>70193713
What is "Mysticism"?
>>70183089
>"HEY GUYS, HOLY WAR! WE ARE THE NEW CRUSADE"
>Posts anime girls dressed in crusader armor
>"Man, I'm gonna fuck up these mudslimes I swear"
This is why Christianity is dying because people want to talk about this shit but just end up posting memes.
>>70193681
>and take their women as wives.
top kek mate
this is the only thing that made me think "kicking them while they are down"
>>70193765
Nice mate.
>>70193744
?
Everyone has a chance to lose ignorance via possible worlds.
Also, I don't think you or anyone else would ever maintain that murdering, slaughtering, torturing, and violent raping and subjugation is ever not sin simply because people haven't heard the Gospel.
>>70193474
Except Mecca you fucking retard
>>70193768
Evil is already, and has always been, defeated - God is in the heavens.
>>70193769
A core tenet of Orthodoxy.
>>70193664
>No, we can do possible worlds for them
What are you talking about?
>>70193798
I mean it seems like a waste to kill the women. If we want to resettle the land we're going to need women and children. Why import western whores when you have a group of local women already trained to be subservient and loyal to their men?
>>70193474
What is Mecca.
>>70193897
You obviously don't know what christian mysticism is. Of course I don't expect a muslim to know, but still.
>>70193842
Children can and have been brought up with normalised violence, where they derive joy and suppress anxiety from it. It's conceivable that there has been societies that are primarily made up of these individuals, where violence and murder is seen as a positive aspect of their culture.
The aboriginals of australia pre colonisation for instance used to rape and eat their children ritualistically, seeing it as a vital part of their culture and psyche.
Atheist professional shit poster here.
Deus Vult lads
>>70183089
Give me reasons to care, OP. I don't see any radical mudslimes near my country.
>>70188184
nothing the catholic church does makes any sense to me
>>70193904
God is good, merciful, and fair, correct?
If God is good, merciful, and fair, He would not damn someone who never heard His Gospel.
But everyone is also judged.
Therefore, everyone must hear the Gospel.
Since we know of people who die who we never experienced have *any* contact with the Gospel, they must experience it some other way.
Therefore, it is not unreasonable to infer that there may be other world in which they do, in fact, have contact with the Gospel.
Possible worlds.
>>70193957
Godspeed, anon.
>>70194024
I know it a little too well to take it seriously, actually.
>>70193863
It will be defeated, but in the mean time we must save as many souls as possible.
>>70191400
NRx, if controlled by Jews, is the final phase outlined in the Protocols of Zion.
The plan of the Protocols of Zion is to make everybody so upset and confused with democracy and "freedom" that they beg to have their power and freedom taken from them and given to the Jews who will act as autocrats.
In the long term MGTOW just makes everyone want to kill themselves because it is merely a protest or boycott and doesn't solve anything. Very similar to feminism in that respect. Both are obvious Jew-lead movements.
>>70194030
It's exactly that attitude that let's them spread
>>70194026
They can believe whatever they like - they're still sinning. God is not a cultural relativist. It's why He condemned entire civilizations for their sin in the Old Testament.
>>70194030
Come on, hue, it'll be fun!
Violence, shitposting irl, memes, and all that sweet loot.
>>70194083
The problem is that the only solution to that is to establish an autocracy. The jews have created the problem and then monopolized the solution, truly genius.
>>70194077
It *is* defeated. Already. God is literally in the heavens - there is no battle. It's been won since the beginning of time itself. There is only our struggle against sin, which is *entirely* personal and between ourselves and God.
>>70193620
Your smug anime faces does not work on me
I asked multiple priest, because unlike in your country, our faith is strong. Right now in my city, I have 35 Roman Catholic Churches, 3 Orthodox Christian temples, 2 heretic adventist temples, 0 synagogues, 0 Muslim temples.
I do not know why you try to weaken our Christian faith, faith you claim to share with us by stating bullshit understanding of God's given word, but I am starting to believe that you are some kind of paid shill used on internets to undermine my faith. It will not work.
>>70194054
Not how it works. If you never been baptized, or never ever met Christianity, and die, you are judged by merciful God based on your life, simple as that, Gospel have nothing to do with it.
>>70194077
I don't at all object to saving souls though.
>>70194027
It triggers so many people
>>70194126
This makes sense.
