Fully Automated Cars are 2 Years away
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Get ready to turn in your car keys, Meatbags.
During an Interview with Fortune, Musk indicated that Tesla's fully automated car will be ready in about two years' time. "It's a much easier problem than people think it is. .... - Elon Musk
In two years fully automated Tesla Cars will be available with no need for a meatbag driver.
Are you ready for the future of Autonomous driving?
The US Bureau of Labor Statistics lists that 915,000 people are employed in motor vehicles and parts manufacturing. Truck, bus, delivery, and taxi drivers account for nearly 6 million professional driving jobs. Virtually all of these jobs will be eliminated within 10-15 years, and this list is by no means exhaustive.
>>69952235
I feel like every 2 years people say this.
>>69952235
Yeah yeah cold fusion and faster than light travel any day now.
>>69952235
>taxi drivers, uber drivers
Uber tried to buy Tesla autonomous vehicles, but Tesla refused indicating Elon Musk's plans to run his own taxi empire using his own cars.
Uber has placed a long-term order with Daimler to the tune of "at least 100,000" S-Class sedans. That, fair reader, is a car that costs something like $100,000 each, making this potentially a $10 billion deal.
Uber founder Travis Kalanick was interested solely in self-driving cars.
>>69952235
WHERE ARE MY FLYING CARS ELON?
>>69952300
>I feel like every 2 years people say this.
Watch this you dumb pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ58dbd5g8g
>>69952351
>>69952496
>where are my reusable rockets
oh wait
Literally all meatbags in this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpxA5rXjmA
watch this video and learn the basics of the new tech coming out
It's around the corner now. It's literally already being used on highways right now. This is not comparable to "flying cars".
>>69952235
>taking the bitch seat to a computer
Nah, I love driving
>>69952235
Thank god. I fucking hate taxi drivers.
>>69952927
>taking off the saddle and sitting in boring box
Nah, I love riding my horsie
Horses are the future for cars. You can have your little garage with and tow your car out to a track and have fun driving it around.
Or you can just strap up some VR sim and "play drive".
but you wont be allowed on the roads
>falling for the autojew
>>69953132
Yep. It's interesting Elon Musk didn't want to take a contract from Uber for 100,000 units. I wonder if he has someone else like google or apple in mind.
He will probably sell Tesla after the model 3 and focus entirely on space, so I'm guessing Google.
>>69952235
And nobody will ever buy one. I can only see these replacing taxis at best. Imagine a car you step into with no driver, tell it where you want to go, and it drives you there. Especially when you're drunk, this could be pretty useful when you're on vacation or don't trust cabs or whatever reason you don't have a car and other public transport isn't an option.
>>69952927
Driving will be for hipster faggots.
I'll watch a movie and do some work on my way to the city. You can just stare at the road the whole way.
The only people who will drive in a few years will be hipster faggots.
It will become illegal soon after that as smart intersections will only allow automated cars. No need to stop at them, no need for traffic lights, the cars can figure out quickly how to safely get through the junction themselves so long as there's no dumb meatbag driving.
Speed limits will be much higher too for self driving cars, because the computers can be trusted much more than humans to drive well.
>>69953566
Anon basement dwelling Tesla fans dont have jobs.
>>69952627
Three years ago, we were saying it'd be fifty years and require modified roads with traffic-control sensors. Two years ago, we dropped it to twenty years but still thought we needed special roads. Automated driving has happened on a MUCH faster timescale than anticipated.
>>69953510
Car insurance savings will make people want cars that don't allow self-driving.
USA is a retard country though and making all automated cars have steering wheels, for now.
I like going for a drive, but as I age I realized I more enjoy sitting back and enjoying the view. I welcome our robot car overlords.
>>69953510
>And nobody will ever buy one.
Don't worry, manual driving will be outlawed shortly.
Interconnected cars (e.g. driving in a convoy) will make traffic great, that is fluid, again. But that will not work if every second car is still driven by a retarded meatbag.
>>69953671
Elon Musk's 2 year guess is after much revising as well. If we actually had some sort of uniform road and no stupid shits running into traffic it could probably be done now.
Who is at fault in an automated car crash?
>>69952235
Non-STEM scum BTFO.
If you aren't STEM you deserve to be unemployed and living on the street.
>>69952235
>Truck, bus, delivery, and taxi drivers account for nearly 6 million professional driving jobs. Virtually all of these jobs will be eliminated within 10-15 years, and this list is by no means exhaustive.
>truckers go away
>niggers and spics realize that all you have to do to steal a truck full of shit is park a couple of cars across the road and break into the back
>no trucker with a gun to keep this from happening
>>69953654
Yes, but teslas are popular with normies too
>>69954022
Assuming both cars involved were automated, I think they're never supposed to be able to get into an accident.
>>69954022
product liability law
Same thing if your car fucks up today and the brakes fail.
>>69954058
>no trucker with a gun
Most truckers don't carry guns
t. former trucker
>>69954022
The car manufacturer. At least that would be the case eventually.
>>69953566
>smart intersections
>this stupid faggot thinks the U.S. will shell out billions to refurbish infrastructure to solve a non-existant problem
Smart cars will literally never happen. All you NEET losers will have to man up and take your drivers tests so you can get yourselves around after mommy and daddy kick the bucket.
>>69954116
True but real patricians get around by riding the waves.
>>69952235
Tesla = Loss.
Musk = Loser.
Tesla = Scam.
Musk = Scammer.
>>69954058
stupid meatbag argument
Surveillance measures and security measures would stop that and be cheaper than relying on a guy with a gun.
>>69953510
That business model is intentional. Fleets will buy the vehicles. Individuals will only need to rent the car for as long as they need it, which may be as little as one day out of the week. Fancier cars like the Teslas will be like limo rentals.
It's a different business model than before, but that doesn't mean it's bad.
>>69954322
How exactly is it a scam?
He makes product and delivers product.
>>69954345
Shillbilly boi....shill harder.
>>69954286
>Smart cars will literally never happen.
They're not that far off. I have a car. I love driving. But it's coming anon. Prepare you butthole.
>>69954144
>Assuming both cars involved were automated, I think they're never supposed to be able to get into an accident.
Oh, there will be accidents (much less, but still...).
But really, this is a non-issue.
>>69954205
>product liability law
>Same thing if your car fucks up today and the brakes fail.
Exactly. And then there is still insurance. With the much lower risk of automated cars (compared to human driven ones), this is also a non-issue. Much cheaper than what we currently have, actually.
>>69954288
Some of us are stuck living is rotten shit holes. Check your climate privilege.
>>69954286
You'd have to be a spastic retard to not be able to pass a driver's test.
You idiots are fucking retarded, there is always gonna be someone behind the wheel, same thing happen to the Metros in D.C, driving a truck is gonna be maximum comfy now.
>>69954557
I dont know why this bought tears to my eyes.
>>69954438
18K US$ loss per car. Parent company drowning in red ink and kept afloat only by USFG welfare. Too bad he couldn't design a car than runs on hair plugs and red ink. He is an excellent stutterer and all around stupid fucking vapour monorail Jew.
>>69952300
Maybe? But this is someone who is actively working on production. It might be a bit longer, but it's gotten past proof of concept and only needs to be implemented at this point
its almost here if you're rich, 10 years from now we're going to see some serious displacement everywhere
http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-george-hotz-self-driving-car/
I will just crash into these and blame it on the car.
>>69953566
why do you faggots always imagine you're some kind of successful VIP of the country in those movies?????????
normal people's life is boring. Driving at least is part of our life now
I don't have emergency phone calls during driving, I don't have to watch CIA wall mounted TV to communicate with my top secret service in the ride, I don't have to read news and make my 007 decision. Oh and btw I'm middle class like other millions of people out there. I'm not "low life" or what. I just enjoy driving than anything else you can do during driving
you faggots like those self-driving videos always show some man/women in suit reading some hipster style company top secret files during driving and make critical decisions in a rush
lol. real life ain't like that. 99% people don't fucking are not CEOs or working the fashion design where you have to draw some pictures during driving
get real faggot fuck you
>>69952235
Lel okay. Because the meme technology man said so.
These cars can't find roads in snow or heavy rain. Aka when you need it the most. They don't work on roads that aren't pristine either, which means something like 70% of back roads are off limits.
Keep falling for the meme, goy. Don't forget to buy some stock either.
For the dumb meatbags.
Let's look at cost savings.
- Repair costs after accidents
- Healthcare costs after accidents
- Emergency Responders costs
- Elimination of delay due to accidents or poor driving, aka no traffic jams ever again
- Elimination of insurance costs (due to the above factors)
This saves a country like America, in an optimistic situation, about 1 trillion dollars a year.
>>69954739
He truly does rule the POC model for losing money! Excelsior! Tesla = Tulips.
>>69954429
>That business model is intentional. Fleets will buy the vehicles.
Yep. Owning your own car will be a stupid waste of money. Most of the time your personal car is typically idle anyways.
>>69952235
>he thinks self driving cars won't need to be fixed
kek
>>69954685
Weird, somehow he affords to build the biggest battery factory on earth and pre orders for 10 billion in cars.
>what is investment
I can't fucking wait for self driving cars. Would never have to worry about getting a DWI ever again!
Also plebs denying this will be a reality are full retard. Trucking companies have been working on this for years now. Not only do they save a shit load of not paying a driver, but trucks can also drive in a more convoy formation saving lots of money drafting off each other.
Also robots get into less accidents than humans. They may not be perfect, but they still do it better than us.
>>69953566
I guess its good that I'm buying a truck then. Fuck the roads
That will make 'getting rid of someone and making it look like an accident' a lot easier.
>>69954569
>NEETs
I rest my case.
>>69954652
Everytime relatives come back from aus to visit it makes me well up with rage. They talk about how the weather is great there all the time, how everyone goes to the beach all the time and is outside all the time. And it's just like ireland except you have way more money and the weather is great. And i keep waiting for them to say "but..." and i can see them trying to think of something bad to say too.... but nope. Ireland is just a wet stanky shit hole. Fuck.
At least we don't have giant spiders. But i guess in a few years we'll have muslims, which are even worse.
>>69954794
People want to play hearthstone while driving or check tumblr.
>>69952235
It sounds too good to be true, like solar powered roadways.
>>69954791
Good luck you fucking idiot
>>69954810
>"3% OF THE TIME THIS THING IS USELESS"
>"DUMB FUCKING GOY"
>>69952235
If you're not completely retarded, you would crash your car maybe once or twice in a lifetime.
And never fatally.
Anyway I'm not afraid of 'automated' cars. They will never catch on and certainly not in Europe.
>>69954822
Then the "meatbags" could afford botox, cosmetic surgery and hair follicle relocation...they'll be 100 million Musks walking around but only one of them is a stuttering scam artiste le grand royal.
>>69954988
>Also robots get into less accidents than humans. They may not be perfect, but they still do it better than us.
Objectively false when it comes to cars.
>>69954794
>not wanting to shitpost while your car drives you
Proxy detected.
>>69955053
We dont have giant spiders anon. The only problem is the women look like this
>>69954810
They drive better in snow than humans.
http://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-clever-way-fords-self-driving-cars-navigate-in-snow/
“We’re able to drive perfectly well in snow,” says Jim McBride, Ford’s head of autonomous research. “We see everything above the ground plane, which we match to our map, and our map contains the information about where all the lanes are and all the rules of the road.” Problem solved.
ord says it tested this ability in real snow last month at Mcity, the fake town built for self-driving vehicles. This idea of self-locating by deduction itself may not be unique to Ford, but the automaker’s the first one to publicly show it can use its maps to navigate on snow-covered roads.
>>69952235
Does this mean I don't have to go to the DMV ever again
>>69954958
It isn't a battery factory faggot.....it is a plastic box factory for Japanese manufactured hard interior lithium tech. Musk is a fucking Section 8 corporate scammer.
>>69955094
>3% of the time
>in canada
>>69954794
>I just enjoy driving than anything else you can do during driving
Why not go around in a horse then while you're at it you flaming faggot. You can have even more time not to be able to receive phone calls, or read news. The fact that you think limitations enhance you life is laughable. If you want a break from phone calls, then just lie down relax while you in the car. Can you really not think of anything else you'd rather do while you're in the car but look straight ahead all the time making sure you don't yourself or someone else?
>>69954849
Why do you care if he loses investors money? That isn't even his goal and the stock is at all time high.
He delivers a good product to those that purchase from him. So he is not scamming consumers. The investors can fucking see the financials and understand it is not a very profitable company.
He is not scamming anyone
Wont be a major issue to those employed to drive till about 5 years though. The first early adopters will be places like Amazon and they'll be a novelty like drones. After 5 years though if driverless cars are working ok I'd expect a good number of large companies to use them. Small places will still use drivers and companies like UPS will still have someone behind the wheel to unload the trucks at least in fue beginning.
>>69954849
Model S's are profitable. They have made back their investment. They just reinvest it. That's why their stock is high.
>>69955215
You guys need to get culturally enhanced by asian qt's.
Friend's Tesla already has a self driving mode so I'm not sure what Musk is on since Tesla already released self-driving cars last summer I believe.
Nah, not happening soon, if ever. Especially manual cars becoming illegal.
Keep dreaming though. Mars colonization and cold fusion soon! ;)
>>69955518
Musk want fully self driving mode. Like you sit in to the car in new york. Tell it to park in a hotel in san francisco. Then fall asleep and wake up when you get there.
>>69955395
Carbon credit scamming little creepy mong Jew.
>>69955439
...any day now.....aaaaaaany day now...no really just wait. Fuck off mook.
>>69955281
>It isn't a battery factory faggot.....it is a plastic box factory for Japanese manufactured hard interior lithium tech. Musk is a fucking Section 8 corporate scammer.
Panasonic will occupy half the space, why is this a bad thing? Partnering is part of business.
I look forward to watching Tesla go bankrupt from the lawsuits
Every single accident involving a self-driving car means a lawsuit against the manufacturer
This is a bigger pipe dream than solar roads
This shit will never catch on.
>>69955691
>government initiative to reward electric vehicles
>be a company which is the catalyst for electric vehicles
How is that a scam? It's also going to end soon. Are homebuyers who take advantage of tax incentives also scammers?
>>69953510
It will change a lot of things in time. In a nanny state such as mine that is obsessed with safe driving, if it is determined that self driving cars dont kill then "manual" driving will be outlawed or at least highly taxed when you pay rego.
It might get to a point where it is cheaper to not own a car and just order one off your phone when you need it.
Also freight and trucking would be jizzing buckets over this, no more paying some fat methhead who has to take breaks to shit and sleep and risk not delivering on time.
There's a glaring hole in all of the technology mentioned I this thread. It may do 99% of what it does better than humans, but it fails spectacularly at that 1%. Namely, dealing with unanticipated situation. It's almost by definition, that a pre-programmed machine is that way.
>>69955786
Partnering? You definitely are getting the Tesla T....the "T" stands for Truvada.
>>69955106
I'm okay with this future
>>69952235
>Elon Moosk
Reminder that this cunt met with Jeb Bush and Rubio to try and stump the Trump.
>>69955845
Tesla already has limited self-driving features.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgNhYGAgmZo
Why isn't it bankrupt now?
>>69955784
Can you read? They are profitable *now*. Reinvesting what they make into new products in generally a very good sign. Investors love that shit. It's completely fine for growing companies not to produce a profit, so long as they are on target to produce a nice profit in the future. 2018 is not far away at all. Amason.com didn't make a profit for 20 years, i don't know if it does still. But it has an excellent stock price.
>>69955351
Why settle for one horse when I can ride 300 at once? Also:
>Car, take me to the Trump rally
>"I'm sorry, anon, that location has been blacklisted on account of reported racism, misogyny, bigotry, homophobia, and fascism. Now proceeding to the nearest police station, where you will face all of the above charges.
>>69955845
He will be shuttered long before that ever happens. Trump comes in and the cards and cardboard box and the weasel will abscond ahead of indictments.
>>69955941
deep learning
>>69955941
>There's a glaring hole in all of the technology mentioned I this thread. It may do 99% of what it does better than humans, but it fails spectacularly at that 1%. Namely, dealing with unanticipated situation. It's almost by definition, that a pre-programmed machine is that way.
You have absolutely no idea about state-of-the-art machine learning techniques, do you?
Computers can be teached very well to deal with unanticipated situations.
>>69956091
Today the driver is liable. In the future tesla will be. It won't be a big deal. The costs to tesla will be less than car insurance normally, and they can make that part of the car price.
>>69956094
No they are not yentl. Now run and polish momma's blech so she can cholent.
>>69956134
>>"I'm sorry, anon, that location has been blacklisted on account of reported racism, misogyny, bigotry, homophobia, and fascism. Now proceeding to the nearest police station, where you will face all of the above charges.
Cars can already do that. They are filled to the brim with location trackers.
>>69952235
Show me an automated tractor trailer that does exactly what I do (numerous 90 degree backs in the middle of traffic, while the computer doesn't freak and freeze if it sees an object)
Perhaps on the I-90 corridor, but you can't have automated trucks, no matter how much you slice it. There's still a conductor operating a train.
>>69956184
Basically
It will probably have some emergency mechanism, aka slow down, stop, put emergency lights on and wait for police / troubleshooters.
That will happen far less often than crashes today and be far less fatal.
>>69952235
Personal injury lawyers are shitting their pants.
>>69956298
They can't stop you from going somewhere.
>>69956271
>No they are not yentl.
No wonder you guys can't run an economy an more. Can't even understand basic economics.
>>69954810
The Nvidia demo did a pretty good job of tracking on shitty roads.
>>69956357
They can if they want. Some of them can even be remotely hacked and have the engine cut off.
>>69955351
you're really retarded sir
first, modern road aren't built for horses and they are not accessible for most cases. You bet I'd fucking love riding horses in towns and forest but that's not gonna happen in real daily life
>limitations
let's leave this alone. You hipsters always think people would be more efficient because they have more time etc. look what have cell phone does. again, 99% people waste their time on cell phones rather than "using" it to advance humanity or whatever
driving is certainly part of our culture. A road trip with family or driving a sport car are experiences that can't be replaced. We love them. Cars are no longer just a tool for A to B
I do agree technology revolution can't be stopped. But it definitely won't be similar to your hispters imagination. We have tv/screen on cars for years. Now look how many people actually use them??? it's fucking dumb. When it came out, you hipsters would cheer ohhhh yeahhhh we can watch TV on passenger seat now!!! we can watch important global news!!!!! but in reality people don't even watch actual TVs no more. Your dream of "man in the suit! answer phone calls!!! write down an outline for company!!!! 5 mins will be there and solve everything !!!!!" type of automated cars are NOT REAL. That's bullshit and faggotry
>dont have licence
>dont have a car
>can drive but too lazy
>futuristic car will now be able to drive me around
THE DREAM IS REAL BOYS!
>>69952235
Do want. I fucking hate driving, specifically in this piece of shit country.
>>69956469
>using a modern car
wew
>mfw I daily drive a 1972 Chebby pickup
>mfw people buy new cars from jew lots and get fucked
>mfw I'm more enviromentally friendly than Tesla owners because my vehicle has been on the road for 45 years
>>69956215
I am an expert in electromotive and power transmission. He is a fucking huckster. I would literally mindrape him if he could muster the stones to face me live. He should bring his own fainting couch and emergency pouches of Minoxidil.
>>69955941
But muh deep learning!
>>69955094
welcome to Canada my shitskin immigrant friend
in your topical shithole that car 100% won't work because you don't have roads
>>69952235
in 35 years people will be having the same fight that pro gun people have now.
except with human driven cars.
You fags need to take the robo dick out of your mouth.
>>69956498
>driving is certainly part of our culture.
You can still drive nig nog. You simply have the choice of not driving if you don't feel like it.
>>69956591
I drive a 98 corolla. But even those have a lot of computers and shit in them.
>>69956321
This is just one example of what they are working on.
An autonomous truck could exit the interstate near the end of its journey, park in a designated lot, and wait for a human to come drive it on surface streets to its destination.
Won't kill every job at first. It won't be a 100% switch in one day.
>>69956671
>they think robots will care about us
lel
>>69952235
>surrendering to the automated jew
What do?
>>69956744
...Musk definitely is brimming with shit.
>>69953510
>Imagine a car you step into with no driver, tell it where you want to go, and it drives you there. Especially when you're drunk,
don't get too excited. there will probably be laws that say you need to be sober so you can step in in the event that something malfunctions
>>69956837
His cars will be hard wired at the board level to always save the Jew.
>>69956184
Sure, they can learn, but they can't learn what they haven't been programmed to learn. What they learn is limited by what the programmers decide is relevant to learn before hand. Hence, computers are fucked by unanticipated situations. We're a long way from actual artificial intelligence. We're very close to something that can pre tend it's intelligent almost all the time.
>>69956837
Stop
>>69956623
>I am an expert in electromotive and power transmission.
And how does that help your argument? you haven't said anything about either of those.
>I would literally mindrape him if he could muster the stones to face me live.
I picture a fat virgin otaku shut in who's angry all this national car companies are going to go bankrupt because they can't compete with tesla for shit.
Toyota betting on hydrogen... LOL. Keep working on getting out of that depression Japan, you'll figure it out one of these decades. Maybe.
>>69956939
>don't get too excited. there will probably be laws that say you need to be sober so you can step in in the event that something malfunctions
Fleet companies will surely lobby hard to prevent such a thing.
>>69952235
Wont work since the price of the cars would need to be dirt cheap or free to replace all driverless cars.
>>69956469
>being this much of a cuck
His next vehicle will be a rocket car that always crashes into the programmed destination....backwards.
>>69956871
>its a art
Good work anon
>>69956837
It will probably depend on regional laws.
>>69952235
Anyone got some stats on how much the unemployment rate would increase / the labor force participation rate decrease from just this one change?
Is 6 million really a job shoah?
>>69954761
that was a pretty good article. how can i become like hotz?
>>69957127
Remember that time Japan made a self landing reusable orbital booster? I don't, lol.
>>69956693
>implying I can choose driving it my own style
yeah no. Before I even do anything the car would scream out RECKLESS CALL THE POLICE because MUH babysitter government Muh safety
oh btw you have 0 knowledge about cars. we certainly don't have many cars that can secretly track and cut down your engine. There are huge areas where government don't/can't touch right now. But soon it will all be regulated with automated cars because laws/judgement/analysis
automated cars is the ultimate form of jews in car industry
>>69956985
>>69956985
This is not how modern AI works friend.
It's to the point the creators have no fucking clue what the AI is thinking or why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_learning
>>69956985
>Sure, they can learn, but they can't learn what they haven't been programmed to learn. What they learn is limited by what the programmers decide is relevant to learn before hand.
No. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Train them to detect the road, and they will be able to detect *any* road, no matter where. A road never seen or driven before.
>We're a long way from actual artificial intelligence.
We're a long way from classical AI, yes. But that was just a silly daydream anyways. The paradigm today is completely different.
>>69954058
it goes above and beyond just the losers who drive for a living
far less accidents (which is obviously good) equals far less litigation, and litigation goes above and beyond just attorneys, there's a whole service industry surrounding civil litigation, its about 3% of the GDP. Many claims departments at insurance companies will be decimated. computers will ensure that the car travels at peak gas mileage performance at all times, oil and gas could be affected
the price of all this modernization is our very livelihoods, or purpose. I'm starting to wonder when they'll begin advocating for basic income
Yep, sure thing.
I'm sure a multibillion dollar industry (Aftermarket parts and performance parts) will happily step aside.
I'm sure millions of people will gladly have their current transportation deemed illegal and be forced to buy a brand new self driving car.
Surely everybody in America can afford an unexpected 70k expense!
Or will our government pay for it? More free shit and more debt, genius idea!
One that you cannot buy a number of parts for.
And if you do manage to get parts, you cannot get a factory service manual:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/10/tesla-doesnt-want-work-cars/
>>69956592
Kek, this.
>Drive mid 80s car
>Easy to work on
>25 MPG
>More power than a number of new cars
>>69957029
I'm French you Juif singe. You compensated shill cucks are stuck on a Moebius loop of fail.
Tesla = Loss.
Musk = Loser.
Tesla = Scam.
Musk = Scammer.
Just jump over them with the bat-springs
>>69957225
If you are a taxi, bus or truck driver even the fucking mail man will probs be replaced by drones, then I would have a plan B for your next job.
>>69952235
because of this faggot pipe dream, using rare earths, my phone battery will cost over 250$
He's a a scum
>PayPal
people get their account suspended for nothing
>SpaceX
Corporate welfare. 10% success ratio. When all know-how is readily available.
>Tesla
Roadster is basically an electric lotus elise
Model S is a 5000lbs barge that overheats after sever minutes of spirited driving. That costs more than a GTR
Model 3; a really expensive povertymobile
>tracking
>""Super""charging fucks up your battery
>clusterfuck of a "drive unit"
>Forced OTA updates
>Musk is a smug fuck
>Apple tier fanbase
Unfortunately for everyone here, being mostly conservative, this type of shit means we will actually need to start considering alternatives to working for money. If we are gonna try to optimize shit so much that even service based industries are operated by robots we might need to introduce a wage for doing nothing. While i think that is problematic on its own, it becomes even more difficult when we face the problem of how we pay individuals differently to do nothing. In the end this nobody-works-everyone-has-money shit is basically a communist wet dream, considering it will be difficult to pay anyone more or less than others.
>>69956800
This. As soon as those cars gain sentience they'll ignite their batteries and roast you fuckers. I'll stop my bike just long enough to roast a marshmallow over your smoldering corpse.
>>69957338
>I'm starting to wonder when they'll begin advocating for basic income
We're having a vote about basic income this june here in Switzerland.
Not that it has any chances, but still. The time will come soon enough.
>>69956837
What does a human driver do?
>>69956592
muh nigga
>drive a 1990s chevy pickup
>literately rust box
>dripping rust dirt everywhere I go
>normies sitting in jewed financed new cars pissed
>my total cost is maybe 4 times of their dealer service
I wonder if I can finally drive.
I sort've have mental problems, like, I attack people sometimes if I think that I have been slighted. It's a compulsion, I'm not even angry, my mind is like like "ok A must lead to B" and if I don't go along with it, I don't know what would happen, I think I might just die.
I did drive when I was a teenager but I started ramming people when they cut me off and it put me in the exact same frame of mind as when I would punch people ect, so I just quit driving for good.
I'd really love to have a vehicle that I could just use by myself. It seriously sucks not driving, but I just can't take the chance, I can do too much damage with a vehicle and I don't trust myself 100% even though I've had no incidents in decades.
I actually met another fellow in jail long ago who hit somebody with a car who was inside of their house, I guess he drove right through the wall and deliberately hit the guy. He was 14 at the time and his judge could not take away a license that he did not have, so he invented a lifetime "vehicular prohibition" where it's an indictable crime for him to operate a motor vehicle. I wonder if he could use this type of car?
With me, I don't because I choose not to, it's not mandated or anything, so very different situations, but I wonder how it would work out for me, and how the law would handle this other person's very unique situation. This kind of stuff is interesting to me.
>>69956837
Which one has the sick loop-de-loop?
>>69952235
>one robot car crashes because of a glitch and kills a homeless man
>every liberal in the country screams for them to be regulated
>Elon Musk regrets helping Hillary Clinton win the nomination
Bravo.
>>69957356
It won't be immediate, the technology will be available before it completely kills normal cars.
The main factor that will push it is "autonomous fleets", aka a car cloud. People will naturally sell their car and stop paying insurance costs and just fleet services.
Need to leave to work M-F at 8 AM? Set up a schedule with Tesla, Uber, Google, or Apple and a car will be at your door at that specific time every day to pick you up.
Basically, it will just be more convenient and far cheaper than traditional car ownership. Eventually it will just become more popular and states will ban self-driving.
>>69955249
LMAO, the state will still get its cut, somehow, they always do.
>>69952235
TBTH Senpai I love riding my motorcycles and doing cone racing with my WRX bugeye but when I'm driving to work or running errands I'd much rather be driven around.
>I'd get a self driving and keep my manual impreza/bikes for fun.
Jesus I haven't seen the word meatbag used this many times since I watched futurama back in high school. I hope no meatbags ride around in these automated cars, they should only be for laptops to ride around in
>>69957561
I've been saying this for years. but basic income needs mass deportations and population control to be viable.
Anytime Elon I will fucking spank you so hard psychologically you'll go into a fetal abyss dead spin position.....but fear not for your worthless shares will cushion you.
>>69952235
Most jobs will stay. First, just because the person is not driving doesn't mean they wont be there. Though no one will drive the bus a person may be there to take change. UPS workers may not drive but will still have to walk the package in. long haul drivers are the only place I see this catching on quickly, but even then there will be several years with a guy for emergencies, or just other dumb Frankenstein syndrome reasons. If, and I emphasize if, it becomes working in 2 years, Long haul drivers will be extinct, but about 50% of your estimate will stay
>>69955845
>Every single accident involving a self-driving car means a lawsuit against the manufacturer
only if it's the Tesla caused the accident. A stoned driver blowing a red light and t-boning a Tesla isn't the Tesla's fault.
>>69952235
>Ban light bulbs to save candlemaker jobs
>>69952235
literally the Apple of the automobile industry. I'll pass.
>>69957945
...what if it was an innocent man rushing to the Bosley Group?
>>69957913
Holy shit, man. Are you OK?
>>69956837
>>69957638
This.
Why does no one realize that cars are taught how to drive by people. It's just like a human driver except they see everything and never get distracted. The reaction would be whatever most people would do.
>>69958016
Ban Jew scammers to save humanity.
>>69957638
niga pls
>>69952235
> 3-5 years
No I doubt that. Alot of jobs drivers do in the commercial sector involves alot more than just getting from point a to point b.
I'd like to see a computer back a combination tractor trailer in any short amount of time. Even then there's the fact that the computer can't disconnect or even connect to a trailer without outside assistance.
Then there's the fact that to even accommodate any of this all new vehicles, trailers and other items would need to be bought brand new something NO major trucking company will do.
> taxis
Maybe someday but nearly all taxi companies are union organized and phasing out drivers would be a cluster fuck.
Then there comes the big thing of that outlawing normal cars and forcing every single driver to get a brand new vehicle would just be impossible. Especially in the shit economy going on.
>When you want cars to be like the McLaren F1, with pure mechanical interface and no safety net, and all you get is a gay automated Tesla.
>>69953282
>Being this jelly youre too poor to afford a car
Sorry your shit nation wants you to remain on cuck bikes
>>69952300
Automation is not difficult.
>people trust a man that got divorced by the same bitch twice
>>69952235
Thing is, that'd required a full and total knowledge of all the roads in the US, and well, automated cars are nothing but a programmed here to there.
What about parking? What about traffic?
What happens when the millions of vehicles on the roads of the US just travel on the same routes, causing accidents, traffic jams and monumental delays?
What about when things go out of control or things happen which are beyond the scope that the car can react to?
Will people even be able to accept completely autonomous (and by design and reality, imperfect) tons, to tens or even hundred tons of uncontrolled mass going forty-fifty, sixty or more miles an hour?
There'll always be humans required, even if just as part of the feedback loop, and that's not going away.
>>69958053
I am rich and smarter than Elon Musk and my patents shan't be given away to strongarm my GFI capital because I am not a scammer. You are fat. Even old Dufresne knew Musk was a con man and he was marinating in dementia.
>mfw bought Tesla shares a while ago
>>69958080
I think I just got dumber from reading that. It makes no sense. A programmer would have to make a decision. Do you kill the driver or pedestrians?
>Do whatever most people would do.
>>69958207
>taxi companies
they will be completely shit on by Tesla, Uber, Apple, Google, and car companies.
>>69958370
>a monomaniacal sci-fi nerd can't keep a woman interested
Sounds about right to me.
>>69958443
Enjoy you welfare largesse...splurge your phantom profits on your similarly imaginary girlfriend. Go for it.
>>69958387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpxA5rXjmA
understand the tech
It's long and you'll have to look up what he is talking about sometimes
>>69958387
This. Honestly rather than fully automated I picture cars like in the movie demolition man where the cars are large automated but have a option to manually control them st the touch of a button.
> get in car
> checking for updates l
> updates found estimated time 30 minutes
Well fuck guess I'm calling in late
>>69958572
...hey now he gave his hair follicles a second chance in a new location didn't he?
>>69952235
People are going to fuck it up. The implications of driver less cars will become immediately obvious the first time you call one to pick you up on a Friday night and it's full of vomit from the last occupant. I mean eventually they teach the computers to recognize vomit and go somewhere to get cleaned but right now no one is talking about vomit detecting technology.
>>69953322
Tesla is already public lol.
>>69954618
No, there will be temporary overseers in automated trucks until all the quirks and fears are fixed.
>>69958554
I think it's pretty simple, idk why you can't seem to figure it out, frankly
The car brakes to slow itself down as much as possible before impact, and it does it with a faster reaction time than a person in the same situation.
There's no place in any of it for the question of "b-b-but what does it kill!?!?" that luddite tards like you masturbate yourselves to.
>>69954791
>this years darwin award goes to:
>>69958554
You stop and stay forward. Under what circumstances could that happen if the driver wasn't distracted in the first place?
>>69958777
Easy. You report the vomit and the last person registered to use that car gets fined /sanctioned.
>people think its going to be some fucking jetsons future shit where the car folds into a briefcase
there will probably be a fucking manual option, making an egg that drives itself is asking for fucking lawsuits if something unexpected happens
on top of that, how the fuck do you expect it to park? will it just motion sensor a parking space and pull in? what happens if theres a motorcycle there and it just fucking destroys the thing?
and did nobody stop to assume the cost? these things will cost a shitton of money on release and itll take at least another decade before they become something resembling the "standard"
if you even want to sit in one of these fuckers within the next 20 years then you can call an uber and have a deathtrap on wheels haul ass to your house.
>>69952235
So when two years passes and there is no fully automated car, will this douchebag admit he is wrong? It's actually a much more complicated problem than people think it is. Computers can't cope with all possible driving situations and weather.
>>69958895
>I've never written a line of code in my life
>>69958986
You can charge them for clean up all you want but whoever the car was suppose to pick up next is still looking at a seat full of puke and has to wait for another car.
>>69953671
>Automated driving has happened on a MUCH faster timescale than anticipated.
THIS.
Baby Boomers are still in denial thinking it won't happen until next century.
Driverless vehicles already exist, the only limitations are parking lots, and dirt roads with various weather conditions.
I think by 2018 driverless cars will be nearly 100% reliable and you'll start seeing autonomous taxi services in cities across the globe.
>>69958831
I considered investing years ago right after its IPO. I didn't, but if I did I could have turned the 5K I was thinking of using and turned it into 50K. Instead I blew it on bullshit. Let this be a lesson not to nigger around.
I presume the software will be free and open source? If it doesn't use the GPLv3 then you shouldn't buy a self driving car as it's a botnet.
>>69958892
Except some meatballs will need to be present to connect and disconnect trailers from said trucks.
>people at destination can do it
Doubtful due to a variety of insurance reasons not to mention the amount of time lost waiting for the designated trailer dropper would be unacceptable. And lastly alot of tInes trailers get dropped at random times and sometimes in yards that have no people present at all
Au revoir mon petit Juif!
>>69959016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpxA5rXjmA
come back in an hour kiddo
>>69959072
has nothing to do with it shitposting luddite
>>69957536
Yeah, buy a nissan leaf. It's only got 80 miles on a full charge!
>>69954794
i didn't know they had rednecks up in canadia
>>69958554
>being this stupid.
>>69956623
lol dumb butthurt faggot getting BTFO by musk and tesla.
I invested in tesla at 28 now its 240.
Good thing I didnt listen to tards like you
>>69959192
>a computer can't detach/retach trailers
wew lad
>>69959153
Gosh that will be 3.7x faster than you actually fucking a female instead of your special babydick edition fleshlight! Not likely pamplemousse....as in not going to happen.
In closing:
Tesla = Loss.
Musk = Loser.
Tesla = Scam.
Musk = Scammer.
>>69956498
How drunk are you, leaf? Your grammer is despicable; are you just tired from your shift at the cigarette factory?
remember how singularity fags thought 3d printing was going to change the world and economic structure
remember how they though VR wasn't a gimmick
remember how they thought TAY was AI and not just a chatbot
Moores law is wrong and technology has hit a plateau get over it.
>>69959525
> he doesn't know how actual commercial trailers work
>less retards texting and driving
>less drunk driving
>less just shitty drivers in general changing lanes without indicating, running red lights, tailgating etc
For people like me that actually enjoy driving, I'm okay with this.
>>69957263
>AI can't dump a ram map
>scientists can't design a device that can read the ai
We absolutely have not reached the technological singularity, yet
>>69959484
I could waste the equivalent of 8K US$ every 24 hours and not touch principal for 4 decades assuming static return conditions. You are a stoplight windscreen cleaning FAT ugly incel bum in my world.
>>69958652
Just because a man can pontificate, doesn't mean that what he says will be the truth, or more importantly, be economic enough to be profitable.
Even all of the get-outs that ignore those problems like a magic wand gets waved require enormous centralisation and either government or massive capital input, which whittles down to massive federal (elsewhere, central) government OR corporate control of the roads and the infrastructure upon which these cars work, allowing them to manipulate them and how people travel, where why and when, just like how google, deep in US state department pockets, is striving to become the civilian CIA and overwhelmingly control the internet.
Besides that, sure you could say that we could teach cars to drive like humans, but the driving practices of individuals varies insanely, but when the major argument is that human driving practices are the problem, you're pushing a contradiction in basic terms.
We already have people who get into accidents with their satnavs because they're too stupid to realise the difference between the maps and reality, yet we're to assume in the omniscient power of technological progress that this won't happen to human programmed automated cars.
And what happens when companies produce substandard versions, or that the good manufacturers constantly fuck up, given that this is the free market, and that already happens incredibly often
>>69959176
wew
>lad
>>69959678
>3d printing
totally forgot about that
Later losers!...that means you Elon.
>>69952235
I don't need a fully automated car, just a "highway mode" that would drive me along main roads.
Being able to sleep on your way to your destination could change a lot of things, I know it will for me personally but I'm not sure about everyone else...fuck the steering wheel put in a coffee maker I would use that thing every morning.
Singularityfags don't know shit about technology. They are about as retarded as the Shimitafags and Happeningfags who think like Nate Silver and doesn't understand that historical trends don't continue forever.
>>69956837
a, it's just a black guy after all.
>>69953510
It will be great i think. I can sleep on traffic while going to work.
>>69959700
If a chemical machine can detach a trailer, a fucking electromechanical machine can fucking detach a trailer, attach a hitch to it, mosh to rock and roll, calculate pi to its last digit, drink a glass of water, unload the truck and get jiggy with it. Are you seriously fucked in the brain, mate?
Im just terrified of losing freedom of mobility to a centrally controlled and connected car computer.
"Unauthorized activity detected: driving you to the nearest police station, please remain belted and do not attempt to leave the vehicle"
>>69959678
>3d printing
there is nothing wrong with 3d printing though
It's not competitive with current manufacturing but it's the best for prototyping and only getting better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMMJnn_gHWw
>>69959925
I'd be happy to ride in an automated car, but not so sure I would be able to sleep in one
As a motorcycle rider, I welcome our cager overlords. It will be much safer for me.
>>69960061
This is why you only use open source cars.
>>69960061
Fucking this. Every new thing that comes along to make our lives "safer and easier" also comes with a loss of personal autonomy.
>>69960026
Ok answer this for me.
How does it connect the air lines? How does it lower/raise the landing gear ( legs) on the trailer?
How does it check the straps or chains on a flatbed every few hundred miles?
>Jap friend forgot to take his chill pill
He's right about those meme cars, tough.
>>69959721
self-driving cars would technically be one of the biggest public health improvements in decades
might hurt ticket revenue though, I'll set that bitch at the speed limit I don't care how fast I'm going when I'm sleeping or watching netflix
>>69960226
>How does it connect the air lines?
servos
>How does it lower/raise the landing gear ( legs) on the trailer?
servos
>How does it check the straps or chains on a flatbed every few hundred miles?
sensors
Anymore stupid questions?
>>69960199
There is a "driver" joke somewhere in here
>>69957589
I'm a socialist leaning towards Trump
^
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: )>>69952235
X
>>69960211
Perhaps technology has an endgame of completely controlling humanity like lab rats.
Sometimes I wonder if the Bible is right about "eating from the fruit of knowledge". That perhaps with this knowledge comes a devious momentum to build, evolve, and replicate something so complex that it ends up controlling us.
>>69960312
>>How does it check the straps or chains on a flatbed every few hundred miles?
>sensors
And the great thing is, it doesn't need to stop to check them.
>>69955911
Yes. It's a scam. It gives preferential treatment to a type of car over another. Govt shouldn't be choosing winners or losers. If a tax break should be done (which I think it should) it should be done across the board, like it is with homeowner tax break.
>>69960312
Ok then who will pay for all this magic tech? Sure as fuck won't be any company I've heard of
Your talking about a massive under taking and the replacement of millions of commercial vehicles and trailers
>>69959805
how did you get your money?
certainly not by shorting tesla
>>69960234
His insults are fucking comedy gold
Here's my fixes to the model 3. Rotating seats and possibly a table raised from in between so you can chill with your niggas.
This assumes it can handle all driving functions (completely autonomous).
I think people who have a negative opinion of self-driving cars
Or
Believe that they will never be widely used
are just people who have been driving alot
get over it you retards
>>69952235
Im a taxi driver and when it happens Im just gonna move to LA and live off the government and smoke weed every day.
>>69960211
what autonomy do you lose?
Im going to assume you can still go anywhere.
>>69960260
Ending drunk driving deaths is a great thing. Fucking up traffic cops is an AWESOME thing.
In 20 years driving your own car will be illegal.
In 100 years no one will own cars. Not even Americans
>>69960547
>getting rid of salary for driver
>run it 24/7 since no sleep or break needed
Everyone with capital is going to want to buy automated trucks.
>>69960547
Servos and sensors are 200 year old technologies. They've been refined over those years and made particularly cheap. Fitting these trailers with this technology will be cheap. Eventually, as the trucks become automated, older trailers WILL phase out in favor of automatic trailers, and workers will no longer be needed.
>>69960856
actual solution will be "drive partner"
You can pretend to drive all you want. It will let you turn the little wheel like a big boy human.
Then the second you go off course or start to fuck up traffic it takes controls and drives for you until you stop fucking up.
So drive fags can pretend they are really driving or doing something fun.
"Assisted driving" will be mandatory very, very soon.
>>69960724
Well if these automated cars are a success story and increase road safety you're going to get people (soccer mum cunts and politicians) questioning why any needs to drive their own car anymore. And why not? Their right to safety trumps your right to enjoy driving your own car and endagering others.
>>69960419
There's no stopping it though, just a stead march forward. Even ted's manifesto didn't have a solution.
>>69960724
As some anon said eariler:
>Car, take me to the Trump rally
>"I'm sorry, anon, that location has been blacklisted on account of reported racism, misogyny, bigotry, homophobia, and fascism. Now proceeding to the nearest police station, where you will face all of the above charges.
>>69961104
why are you so condescending?
>>69960876
I think there is a certain appeal to cars, and in the US, I know plenty of guys (and even girls) who are partial to their car. It will remain a hobby.
>>69961220
Because of what utter shit everyone who is against stuff like this must have stuck in their heads.
>save trillion dollars a year and save 40,000 lives along with preventing hundreds of thousands of serious injuries.
>>69961236
Then they will only be able to drive them on tracks, like you can only play golf on golf courses. The road will transform into a highly efficient network of on demand electric transport vehicles.
>>69961346
>>save trillion dollars a year and save 40,000 lives along with preventing hundreds of thousands of serious injuries.
At the expense of sacrificing freedom for convenience. This is why humanity will inevitably be controlled by machines.
>>69954685
literally none of that is true
IF Tesla just built 50000 model s' per year (last years output) and stopped all other capex, they would be very profitable
the California zero emissions vehicle credit or whatever is a small portion of their revenue but that is just California being money wasting dumb cucks, every other company gets one too
>WHHHH WHHAAAAAAAA THOSE STUPID STEEL MILLS ARE A SCAM, THEY GET A SUBSIDY! SHUT THEM DOWN THEY LOSE MONEY :(((((
>>69961104
This is the most likely future.
> many people get to keep their jobs
> commercial sector only has to invest minimally in new tech
>nearly all the benifits of a fully automated system
> average Joe is significantly more likely to accept it.
Would never have to worry about getting a DWI ever again!
You wouldn't have to worry if you weren't driving drunk in the first place,you degenerate.
>>69952235
It's much further off than that, even if automated cars entered mainstream production and achieved a significant market share in that time there is still the matter of all the other cars on the road, an automated that knows all the routes is one thing but coordinating with all the other cars on the road that don't share it's network would require much more, you would need camera that can analyze road conditions such as other cars on the road and obstructions as well and accelerate, decelerate, brake, and turn accordingly. Some of that exists to a degree in emergency automatic braking tech but it's not sophisticated enough, you would have to but a device into every single car on the road to let the network no where they are, how fast they are going, and in what direction and a government mandate to install what amount to a tracking device into every single vehicle would meet with a whole lot of push back from the population, not to mention the other car manufacturers who would lobby against the government trying to force them to change their production standards to cater to a minority of vehicles on the road. Not only that even of such a device were installed in every single vehicle it would only allow for the automated ones to account for them and react accordingly, not control them, this means manually controlled cars would be pretty much assured the right of way in any situation by default, you could drive like an asshole and the automated cars would be forced to yield to you to avoid a collision.
That's just of the top of my head, if I were to give it some real thought I could probably come up with more reasons that this won't happen for quite some time.
>>69961503
What freedom is lost?
Choose where to go and it takes you there.
Because your little monkey arms aren't turning the wheel doesn't change anything.
>>69961723
you know the google car can do all that right?
>it's a much easier problem than people think
>from the man who can't even make a profit selling regular cars
>>69962027
It can't in the rain. Or snow. Or roads with poorly marked lines.
>>69961723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpxA5rXjmA
watch
read thread before posting
>>69961951
>Because your little monkey arms
I bet you're like that guy from grandmas boy who think he is a robot kek
>>69962051
http://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-clever-way-fords-self-driving-cars-navigate-in-snow/
>>69952235
Yeah no. This won't be adopted until our infrastructure is flawless. Far as I can tell, it's a fucking disaster and only getting worse.
>Ford
>the google car
>>69962051
>snow.
ford can
>poorly marked lines
it can though?
not sure about the rain
>>69961667
True, but innocent people also get hurt. Better to stop the drunks than just twiddle our thumbs and hope they change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ7oqmikZDQ
>>69952627
These results are so amazing, simply beautiful. I LOVE YOU. I LOVE YOU.
>>69961951
>Because your little monkey arms aren't turning the wheel doesn't change anything.
Looks like babby is too used to power steering and GPS
>>69962187
what happens when the car gets into a situation where it can kill the driver to avoid killing multiple pedestrians?
>>69961003
But WHY would a company invest in all of that when they can only partially invest in and keep things largely to themselves?
> keep employees in truck to "monitor" the trip
> pay them based on amount of trips completed rather than miles or hours
>>69961619
You forgot to mention those driver jobs are getting paid minimum wage and offer no real benefits or raises. Face it that entire job market will be flushed out by the end of this decade.
>>69962262
>muh track switch scenario
Who the fuck cares? A human driver would either die or kill in that situation and it doesn't bother you one bit.
>>69962361
It bothers me if I'm the one the car chooses to kill
>>69962267
why pay them? when there is literally no need to
>>69956837
run over j-walkers duh
>>69952235
>Putting self-driving vehicles on America's roads
Have fun hitting a pothole every quarter mile until you lose a tire and roll off a cliff.
>>69962390
You choose to kill just the same as the car would you mongloid.
>>69962296
That or burgers man take your pick. Oh wait that's getting automated too...
>>69962521
So you're saying the car would be programmed to protect its owner over the lives of anyone else?
>>69956660
try like 5 years.
>>69962390
Cars will avoid getting into that situation in the first place.
If you were jaywalking its your own godamn fault.
>>69960102
I'm an engineer, I get prototype parts 3d printed in a few days while I wait weeks for the traditional manufacturing methods to produce the real parts, owner of our company loves it. It may take awhile but 3d printing will change manufacturing.
>>69962656
there are situations a computer can't predict. What if a tire blows out?
>>69962578
It'd probably sell more if that was the case.
There's really no win-win here, you either sell a product designed to kill it's passenger if it has too, or one that will kill whoever it has to to protect its passenger
>all those posts and not a single one telling me how Tesla will help me drift around the toegay
>>69962578
Possibly, probably not, but it truly does not matter. Like >>69962361 said, the human element in the philosophical problem renders it useless to find fault with the car's computer.
Besides, anyone who argues "my life is more important than the lives of 2 or more other people" is gonna have a tough time convincing people.
>>69962751
Then it obviously would come to a controlled stop at the side of the road as soon as it could.
>>69962776
speaking of that, for awhile I'd be willing to bet that people who are an annoyance to certain agencies get into "accidents" as the technology "matures".
That said, that's beginning to be a problem now in non self-driving cars
>>69962751
A tire blowing up is a scenario.
The law abiding citizen has priority over the people breaking the law.
Kill the jaywalkers.
>>69962751
>What if a tire blows out?
then it reacts the same way a human would except faster and with the correct response instead of panicking
reminder this level of computer vision exceeds all expectations
driverless cars are coming
>>69962959
>the computer will automatically know what to do in a situation it hasn't encountered
Anyone who has written a program knows the opposite is true. Take for instance the Google bus incident or the numerous Teslas swerving into oncoming traffic
>>69952235
The first time one of those things wrecks it'll be over for the entire industry.
>>69954322
>>69954685
Toyota/Honda shill
Why are you unable to innovate Japan? Why do you just copy american companies all the time?
>>69962656
You do know that tech sometimes wigs out for no good reason right? Or even if there is a reason it's often one that's completely unforseen.
I honestly think full automotive automation will be a thing but this tech will take time to fully integrate and will be tested, fucked with, changed, bad mouthed, praised, hated and loved the entire time.
I'm talking like a decade maybe longer if politics get involved in the matter. This could mean the ends if alot of jobs enough that it would have the potential to fuck with the economy.
It's not like when smart phones took over or flat screens became the standard. It's not a little matter.
>>69963173
strawman considering they have already been in wrecks
>>69963238
Honda has had 100% of the "self-driving" tech Tesla just introduced in their Acuras for about three years. This year the Civic got it as an option.
>>69963146
>what are maps/neural networks
>>69963254
And humans "wig out" way the fuck more often than any machine does.
>>69963394
Two things that are heavily dependent on their training data and who often make wildly incorrect predictions when they encounter a scenario that is brand new?
>>69953566
>yuropoors will never drive a fun car
Self-driving cars will be perfect for you socialists in your shitty little diesel hatchbacks.
Over here, we like freedom and big engines.
>>69963394
Amazing
Human errors and morality issues means automated driving will never be a thing outside a niche market.
>>69963485
You mean like humans?
If an ai makes a wildly incorrect prediction, it will have to learn from that mistake and edit its rules.
>>69963277
Okay. I meant a wreck that kills people. The reason is because there are enough yellow journalists who have a lot to gain from writing salacious stories tearing down the cars and comparing them to t-1000.
>>69957356
>mid 80s car
>Easy to work on
>More power than a number of new cars
You drive a Dautsun 280zx turbo?
>>69963672
Great. So is Tesla liable for the death their network not having a correct rule caused?
Do you want to be in the those cars as they're learning?
Question and this will determine if I give a shit. If my car is self driving now cab I get shit faced in my automated car?
>>69963436
Granted but usually you dont sue Chevy for millions of dollars when a driver t bones you.
With this almost any problem or accident could be laid solely at tesla's feet.
>>69963254
>wigs out
Confirmed for not knowing anything about technology.
It does not wig out. It operates well within its defined information processing ability. It may not be intended, but it does not "wig out".
>>69963842
Probably not in your lifetime. For the foreseeable future a human will have to have the capacity to take control.
>>69963748
Yes, because a Tesla product caused that death.
Yes. They're currently safer than manual driving.
>>69963862
I imagine insurance policies will take the hit. Because you take human error out of the equation, insurance companies are facing a massive problem when people demand lower rates. To counter this, they'll likely take legal responsibility for the car in case of accidents and offer you "software security" or something like that.
>>69963493
>Over here, we like freedom
You forgot to turn off your proxy.
>>69964017
>they're currently safer than manual driving
>Tesla released a patch because people were trying to actually use them as actual automatic cars and almost causing accidents
A Tesla today will not even stop for a red light if there's no car in your lane
>>69963907
Then I don't care. Besides, niggers will catch on early if they dump a bunch of basketballs in the road they can trick out the computer to stop the car. Then, every time you drive in a nigger neighborhood you risk this happening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfBSncUspBk
>>69963842
My guess would be yes
But
>>69963907
raises a good point.
>>69964107
Google cars are pretty reliable, though.
>>69963394
Do you even know the meaning of the words you used?
>>69962267
what?
A delivery company will own the truck/trailer. They would take care of it much like they take care of manual truck/trailers.
Cost of wages will eventually be > cost of automation
>>69964251
In controlled environments>>69964443
>>69962507
>self driving cars can't remember the last time driving through that road carefully that there were potholes at specific spots
>>69952474
They also bought out a huge portion of the robotics department at Carnegie Mellon to work on this
>>69964433
No. I just googled top ten buzziest tech words.
Yes I know what fucking maps and neural networks are.
Inb4 anons hack them for the lulz
Elon is literally the Peter Molyneux of the auto industry
>>69952235
But i enjoy driving cars.
>>69964672
Okay how are neural networks trained?
And how does this training help it resolve issues they have never encountered.
>>69964786
Oh man I can see it happening now.
"A cyber terrorist hacked over 300 cars on a local freeway today causing all electronic displays in the vehicles to show only pornographic images"
