Well, this is what I learned in College today.
Well, apparently you need to learn that. Americans are easily swayed by celebrities who don't want to take proper medical precaucions
>>69476616
Apparently, you need to see the studies with the increase in kids who, after being vaccinated, they become Autistic.
Sounds reasonable. If you think vaccines are linked to autism you shouldn't have kids; your retardation will do more damage than any disease they get from not being vaccinated.
>>69476507
>Vaccinations are bad
I love this meme. Can't get enough of this meme! What can I say!
>>69476724
It's more about us becoming very liberal with diagnostics, any shy kid is now Autistic
They aren't wrong. Anti-vaccine people are retarded.
>>69476897
Congratulations! Your Good Goy level has increased.
>>69476507
Vaccinations are not 100% effective.
/thread
>>69476724
>being this bigoted towards neurodiverse children
>>69476507
>passing them on to others
you mean other non-vaccinated people? hows that a serious risk if most people are? let the non-vaccinated get sick, who cares, its their right. this is no big deal at all.
>>69476724
of course its not because Autism is a modern diagnosis or anything.
I link Autism to mobile phones.
prove me wrong!
>>69477438
because vaccinations are not 100% effective
>Autism typically doesn't become noticeable enough to make a diagnosis until 2 or 3
>The bulk of childhood immunizations happen before that
>Parents who don't vaccinate are also less likely to take their children to the doctor, thus lowering the chance for a diagnosis to be made
Mysteries are fun, but they're supposed to be difficult enough to make you think.
There is literally no reason to not get your child vaccinated.
>>69477263
>not 100% effective
>so why le do them at all xDDDD???
what the fuck are you even saying
>>69476897
Nobody is saying vaccinations are bad.
The question is why do we give young children so many, for so many illnesses that rarely effect children and why are the vaccines being linked to health issues in young children?
So far I've never seen a good goy be able dispel these concerns. They always retort to the same shit
>"lol dumb unedcuated lol"
>"lol Mr Goldstein told me people like you are dumb lol"
>"100% of vaccination protocols are necessary, Government says so!"
and never actually address the point.
>>69477465
I link autism to air.
You can't disprove me.
>>69477181
Says the faggot who got MMR and Polio vaccination as a child
>>69477723
its them god damn chemtrails man
>>69477668
Everyone who dies used to drink water.
Therefore, drinking water kills you
>>69476724
>Apparently, you need to see the studies with the increase in kids who, after being vaccinated, they become Autistic.
You mean the fabricated studies that the doctor ADMITTED to being fabricated because he got paid money by a group of lawyers to make it? He lost his license after admitting it was fake.
>>69477722
>The question is why do we give young children so many, for so many illnesses that rarely effect children and why are the vaccines being linked to health issues in young children?
Because these disease are only gone because of vaccination, but they are still there, and all these disease that you are vacinated against are so horrible even if they gave you autism is worth it.
look up tetanus for example.
>>69476507
If my child doesn't get vaccinated, and your child does, how does my child threaten yours?
>>69477722
>nobody is saying vaccinations are bad
>we're just saying they cause horrible mental development issues in children
Vaccinations have never been linked to autism. There was one single study that was proven to be a complete sham afterward.
>>69476897
good goy inject yourself with everything the state tells you to, you can trust us!
>>69477723
Well, I learned Macedonia is a fucking country today.
Prove that autism isn't directly linked to video games.
>>69477722
>The question is why do we give young children so many,
Because there's assloads of viruses and shit
>for so many illnesses that rarely effect children
Because we don't want to allow these pathogens to mutate, because we're trying to wipe this shit out completely
>why are the vaccines being linked to health issues in young children?
By shitty unscientific studies. Fun fact, autism cases are rising just like Facebook usage by pregnant mothers. Does using Facebook while pregnant cause autism?
>>69478135
The research is open and publicly accessible for anyone to see
>>69478135
>can't win an argument
>call them good goys
why you even posting then?!
maybe you are part of a Jewish agenda to stop people having vaccines so that they have all the vaccines for the Jews only?!
>>69476724
lel you mean this one?
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2897%2911096-0/abstract
>>69477987
Herd immunity. It's not a matter of a disease spreading and my kid is safe and yours isn't. The disease can live in your kid and mutate and make the vaccinations ineffective. There are diseases that we considered cured coming back in first world countries because a playboy model thinks she's a doctor.
>>69478319
>maybe you are part of a Jewish agenda to stop people having vaccines so that they have all the vaccines for the Jews only?!
Is that a part of the jewish agenda to stop people from eating meat so that they can be the only smart and healthy ones?
And they can sell us anti-depressants?
>>69477888
>Because these disease are only gone because of vaccination, but they are still there
you clearly don't realize the things they vaccinate children for.
Many of them are things that could wait until they are 16+ with a developed body but instead we give those shots to 2 year olds despite logic reasoning saying the chances of a child needing it are low.
>look up tetanus
This would be an example of a good vaccination for a child to have.
Again: I never said cancel all vaccinations.
However reform in the procedure should be considered. Idk about Macedonia but the US government isn't exactly trustworthy, even considering the things its done to its own citizens.
>>69476724
kek
>>69477465
its actually because women are having children in their mid-30s - early-40s.
>>69478227
And careers are destroyed regularly for pointing out politically inconvenient truths all the time. Even when the data is 'open'.
Write and article on racial differences regarding IQ and see what happens.
>>69478413
>However reform in the procedure should be considered. Idk about Macedonia but the US government isn't exactly trustworthy, even considering the things its done to its own citizens.
Can't argue with that.
But not like my government is trustworthy they were giving experimental vaccines to children some time ago, without anyones knowledge.
>>69478413
It's easier to ensure they are vaccinated if you do it when they're younger.
Autism is great because it's a loose term you can apply to a variety of behaviors, and you can graph it to show a huge increase in the last two decades that correlates with your modern bogeyman of choice.
Meh we probably do give kids way too many vaccines when their young but honestly I don't give a shit
It's a minor problem facing the West
A much bigger problem is all the depression, anxiety, adhd pills they push on 10 year olds
>>69476724
>>69477181
oh god not this retarded shit again
THERE IS NO CAUSATIVE LINK BETWEEN AUTISM AND VACCINATIONS
THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF MEDICAL/SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT PROVES THIS FACT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65l1YAVaYc
but, this is the problem arguing with conspiracytards
you can present as much evidence as you want, and it just comes down to "WELL ARE YOU GONNA JUST BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL YOU?"
>>69478454
Autism can affect any age mother but indeed the older you wait the more chance there is of having chromosome defects, that's why these women who wait until their 40s-50's to have a kid end up with a downs syndrome kid more often than not.
>>69478218
>gives shitty unscientific defense "and shit"
>they said there is a boogeyman out there, becoming mentally ill/physically disabled is the price of safety!
>all critics are being unscientific!
I get you also believe GMO food has no effect on humans, because Monsanto pays scientists to defend them and attacks those who release studies against them.
Your naive optimistic understanding of the world is childish, but that's not necessarily a good thing. You underestimate the amount of corruption that even extends into all things for profit.
>>69478683
you will be called a good goy shill or sheeple now.
>>69478659
The internet causes aspies
I'm not even kidding
Kids don't interact healthily anymore and so they're all fucked up in the head because of this
The internet was a mistake
>>69478831
> muh gee-emm-ohs!
what effect do GMOs have on humans?
I can think of one: preventing millions of people in the third world from starving to death by increasing crop yields
tell me what harm GMOs cause. the burden of proof is on you.
>it's an "Americans try to understand science" thread
>>69478683
Good goy--I mean guy.
You're not like those conspiritards.
You're an independent mind, not like those sheeple.
Good guy indeed
>>69476724
That was one study.
That was quickly discredited.
By a quack.
>>69479075
its a monopoly, monsanto owns all the rights to GMO seeds by copyright
also someing about pesticides
>>69478866
looks like you're fucking Nostradamus
>>69479163
where is the evidence
where are the facts
this is all ad hominem shit
Not this business again.
Yesterday I spent three hours straight autisticly shit-posting:
>>>69342356
I seriously need to get some work done today to catch up from what I missed yesterday.
I haven't got time to dick around again.
Maybe another time.
>>69476507
>being antivacination
I want r/cuckservative to leave
>>69479358
I'm not denying that Monsanto holds way too much power
I'm asking WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT GMO FOOD IS HARMFUL TO PEOPLE?
>>69478155
>US education
>>69476507
>American education.
>>69476507
Vax only for serious viruses or if you're traveling
Vaxing for the flu or minor shit is a scam
>>69479702
I'm not going to bother learning every country in the world, and some hole in former yugofuckistan that has a third of the population as the city I live in is not high up on my priority list.
>>69479572
this is what i always find quite interesting with the American Culture. In Europe you have to test everything and show proof that it isnt harmful while in America it has to be shown that it is Harmful so it can be banned. Might be me seeing it wrong but from what ive seen it is at least more the way it is done. I mean like come on is it really a good way to say we will use something until we find out that our children will be fuckin inbreed idiots because of it? Its like trying to run against every Wall because nobody have proofed you yet that you cant.
>>69480057
>Vaxing for the flu or minor shit is a scam
So don't get a flu shot
Here its only recommended if you are old or have health issues whereby the flu could complicate matters and have an adverse effect on your health.
There's a problem with all this "they're poisoning us" argument.
It's really rather simple logic too.
We're living longer and life expectancy only rises.
>>69477987
Herd immunity... But it's more than what the other guy said. Some people can't get vaccinated because of other health problems. You're putting those kids at risk.
Also, it's not your own life you're putting at risk, so it really shouldn't be your choice anyway. You shouldn't be allowed to risk your child's life because some braindead celebrity cunt couldn't deal with the fact that shit happens even to people like to her, and had to go find a reason where none existed.
>>69476724
no amount of mercury is too much white baby poison
>>69476507
Or you can keep foreigners out so they don't spread diseases
Look at what the Pilgrims brought with them
>>69476724
Were you vaccinated? Why aren't you autistic?
>>69478155
>American education
>>69478328
>http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2897%2911096-0/abstract
It's sad how low the Lancet has fallen.
>>69480587
lets not jump to conclusions
>>69476724
>>69476507
Because it's true. Anti-vaxxers are the ones with the autism.
Next time stay awake during science class.
>>69480743
kek
>>69476507
> college taught me something true and I'm upset
> I hate science
>>69478155
>my homeland's education
They should just have students lurk 4chan instead of go to school. They would learn more.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/anti-vaxxers-ironically-fund-study-finds-no-link-between-vaccines-and-autism-356232
>pol is now infested with big pharma shills
>>69481089
should be mandatory in every country to study /pol/ for at least 3 hours a week during school.
>>69480129
>not knowing Macedonia from learning about ancient Greece
>>69481219
How do I get paid for this 'shilling'?
I'm obviously not getting my cut.
>>69477438
That's the issue. There are places like Marin County (north Bay Area full of hyperwealthy liberal granola munchers) that have such a high rate of non-vax they are having outbreaks of pre-modern diseases that haven't been seen in this country outside of illegal immigrants for decades.
Funny thing is these "enlightened progressives" don't vaccinate then they hire fresh-over-the-border Juanita carrying who-knows-what-diseases to nanny their kids.
Then they whine about the plight of poor illegal immigrants.
>>69481219
>anyone who bothers to look at something rationally and comes to a different conclusion than I did is a shill
Fuck off.
>>>/x/
>>69481430
You just did.
>>69481219
>this is /pol/
>any time I lose an argument I can cry shill and I still win!
>>69481430
you get paid in (You)s
>>69478659
>>69478670
I don't see why anyone trust Jew to inject their kids
>>69478683
They admit they are sterilizing us
why would anyone trust them when they openly talk about it.
Vaccination is a trust issue. Do you trust the people vaccinating yourself or your children. There could be anything in t he needles.
>>69482542
Think back to college with all those clueless girls barely scraping through biology to become nurses.
These are the people you are trusting to perform hundreds of injections every day.
I wouldn't trust these people to open a packet of crisps.
>>69481376
I did learn about Macedonia, and I love Greek history. It's not like I've never heard of the fucking place, but I didn't know it was a modern state.
>>69482392
the global population is the highest it's ever been
if they're sterilizing us, they're doing a piss-poor job of it
BESIDES, WHY WOULD THE RICH AND POWERFUL ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN?
they drink water, and get vaccines, they watch television, they eat food
>>69482768
The rich and powerful aren't the test subjects that the poor lower class are.
>>69476724
It seems like you are part of the statistics too. Have fun while digging graves for your children that passed away in measles. Or just don't breed.
>>69483051
what the fuck are you talking about?
if they put something in the water, food, vaccines and... television(???) which would control birth rates, it would affect them too, because they also consume all of those things
it'd be against their own interests, and they'd never support it
>>69482241
Link please.
>>69483321
You have to admit that the level of autism at an all time high. Rich people are different from poor people. They get the best in life. While poor folks give their children shots in public schools for fuck's sake.
>>69483321
>rich people consume the same things as poor.
Only the nigger-rich
The real rich have their food grown and raised fresh, with armies of servants/special providers who prepare their meals and educate their children and do their housework.
They do not watch television, they do not go shopping, they rarely interact with people who fall below upper-middle class (even their servants and staff are upper-middle-class)
They don't even use the same transportation methods, except roads - briefly.
>>69478454
My mother had me in her early 40's.
Might explain some of my problems. That and the history of mental issues in my family.
>>69483321
>they also consume all of those things
you don't know any rich people do you?
Money can always get you the good stuff, they actually cherish the fact that they consume pristine produce...
They love division, they want to feel special.
Most of them were abused as children and are dead inside.
Don't try to rationalize their behavior plebe.
>>69482768
>>69483321
>>69483051
Its boil the frog, they are not going to hit the west were suddenly no one can have kids, because we would fight back.
More and more kids will just be born retarded, or if they can say make 15% of people not able to have kids then propagandize us to another 20% that is DEVASTATING to birth rates
How can anyone argue that has not ALREADY happened? White birth rates around the world are below 2.1 which is collapse level.
Only country that is not is Ireland, but they are just at 2.1.
>>69476724
It's posts like this that make me seriously consider if pol is indeed satire.
Do you retards even know what vaccinations are? It's a very weak form of whatever you're trying to make a kid immune to. If vaccines caused autism, then you non vaccinated retards would be getting turbo autism everytime you fell sick. I suppose it makes sense though, you have to be severely mentally retarded to believe shit like this.
>>69483436
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM101580.pdf
>>69476724
Even if it were true I'd much rather have an autistic kid than a dead one
>>69476507
You learnt facts
>>69482768
they get "clean" vaccines
>>69477813
That and the flouride
>>69485728
In America it pretty rare to get any of those virus even if you don't get vaccinated.
>>69485980
And why would that be?
Might it be related to the high percentage of vaccination? Gee I don't know.
It's still preferrable. The chances of being on the extreme side of autism are very low.
>>69476507
Your ancestors died from shit that we can take an over the counter pill for today, you fucking idiot.
People spent YEARS developing these vaccines and now we have a bunch of retards like you that say vaccines are bad, based on absolutely nothing.
>>69486192
Get fucked. The side effects are in this thread. Yet you still deny it.
>>69477263
Breathing is not 100% effective at keeping you alive.
Why even breathe?
>>69486502
"NO ITS BAD BECAUSE I SAID SO" and retarded conspiracy info graphics is not a scientific argument you fucking faggot
>>69486502
The self reported side effects that have no actual evidence for them? If you want to curb autism tell 40+ year old women to get fixed.
>>69479572
Being as all the studies done have only tracked GMO use for a month or two on rats and have been mostly funded by Monsanto or a proxy, I would say there is no 'proof'. How about you keep sucking it down for 5-10 years and let us know.
I knew a guy who was vaccinated, he died of AIDS. They don't protect you.
>>69486859
Self reported? You think medical doctors believe SELF REPORTED DIAGNOSIS LMAIONG AT YOUR LIFE
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