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Goodbye Trump
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Goodbye trump
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If there's no punishment for doing something illegal then why call it illegal? Jesus Christ WTF is wrong with people?
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If something is illegal then you are punished if you participate in it

next
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This will actually increase his ratings.
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>>69375567
the gaffes keep coming
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>t. increasingly nervous man
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>somebody who does something illegal must be punished
OMG HE'S LIKE HITLER
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>>69376373
A leaf thinking this is a gaffe
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>>69375567
Throw them in jail, it's the beat way to take up all the space that death row inmates are gonna make. When trump is president we will just shoot the stupid fuckers.
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>>69375567

Mildly surprised they included "illegal" in the subtitle.
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>If abortion was illegal, should there be a punishment for getting one?
>Well yes, that's what 'illegal' means.

That was the tl;dr of the conversation. They're taking even more things out of context, as always.
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>>69375567
FUCKING BASED

TRUMP IS BRINGING THE NOOSE FOR YOU MURDEROUS FEMINIST CUNTS
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>>69376517
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>>69376544
Isn't that what he meant though?

Feminazis are gonna go apeshit when they see this...
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>>69375567
Abortion: The Kosher Slaughter.
http://incogman.net/2013/04/abortion-the-kosher-slaughter-2/
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good man, fighting the good fight. god bless him.
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>>69375567
Trump has like a 70% unfavorable rating with women voters. He has the highest unfavorable ratings of anyone running.
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>>69375567
He's too smart for his own good.. what he meant to say was: "there has to me a mechanism in place, that discourages women from abortion, leaving it as a last resort option", which is a reasonable thing to say. But all media hears is "burn the witch!"
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>>69376827

Of course it's what he meant, but take a look at new headlines (and this is just a few.)
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>>69375567
He also wants Saudi Arabia to have nukes
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>>69377105

53% of Trump voters are women.
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>>69375567
FEMINISTS BTFO
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>>69376077
>>69375856
>>69376691

But abortion will never be illegal so...
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>>69376431
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>>69377228
Saw that coming. How fun it is to leave out an oh-so important keyword.
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wow trump just put brakes on his train.
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>>69377105

If you exclude democrat women, who were never going to vote for him, that drops significantly. But that doesn't make as good of a story, huh?
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What did she mean by this?
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>>69377376
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>>69375567
I support abortion and I don't see the problem.
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>>69377295
He has a 70% unfavorable nationally. You have to win the general election to be president, not just the primary.
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>>69375567
He's trying too hard to pander to Rato voters.

He'll probably back down on this.
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>>69375567
"Illegal"

Ops an idiot anything illegal deserves a punishment
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>>69376257
Doubtful. A lot of women are single issue voters on pro-choice. It doesn't do him a lot of good here.
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>>69377444
>t. increasingly nervous man
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>>69377400
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-nearly-half-of-republican-women-wouldnt-vote-for-trump/article/2586775

Also, that's not a great rebuttal to his point. That's essentially saying he'll lose in November. You can't win the general election if women don't vote for you.
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>>69376077
>if the government says you can't do something just because you should be punished

trumpcucks everyone
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>>69377376
>polls from March are relevant

Remember when Carter beat Reagan by 30 points?
Or when Dukakis beat Bush Sr. by 10 points?
Or when Bush Sr. beat Clinton by 20 points?
Or when Kerry beat Bush Jr. by 5 points?
Or when McCain tied Obama?
Or when Romney beat Obama by 7 points?
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>>69377331
Too that to the idiots who think it's okay to poison or coat hanger themselves or go underground
That's illegal and has been forever.

How does it feel to be twisted by the liberal media?
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>>69375567

Women who have ILLEGAL abortions should be punished. I see no problems here.
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>>69377663
>t. increasingly nervous man
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You have to be pretty fucking evil to murder your own baby it's amazing the psychopathy of women not just to have an abortion but to go around celebrating their butchery.
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>>69377640
>lets do what ever we like
Bernie cucks
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We need to get this trending. We can take the evangelical vote away from Cruz.
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>Do something ILLEGAL
>Get caught
>Get in trouble

Sounds fair to me.
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>>69377444
>one poll is more representative than hundreds of polls

also, if you look at Romney vs Obama, Romney was more competitive than Trump is against Clinton who is literally Obama 2.0
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>>69377529
What it shows is that he's at least capable of reaching out to them. His general election strategy is likely completely different from his primary strategy.

>>69377721
>stating facts is nervous
ok
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>>69377444
Romney winning by 9 percentage points against Obama and doing terrible against minorities? lol that poll was a lie. All the polls that CNN puts out are garbage like the one that had Trump at 49%
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>>69375567
>>>ILLEGAL ABORTION
>>>ILLEGAL ABORTION
>>>ILLEGAL ABORTION

Since you're a leftist faggot, and don't believe ANYTHING a woman, fag or immigrant does can ever technically be "illegal", that explains everything. Please hang self now.
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>>69377831
So, if it was illegal criticize Jews, and the penalty was death, you'd be okay with that/
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>>69377917
It's illegal to to troll outside of /b/. So, I guess you should get banned.
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He knows what he's doing. A bunch of crabby old 1960s radical feminists just got wet for the first time in 4 decades after hearing of this. Females love being put in line and don't you forget it.
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>>69377377
So, where does this fall on the libel situation? They all talk about how terrible it is Trump wants to open up the book on libel. But isn't conveniently twisting someones words like that libel?
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>>69375567
>crime should be punished

This is somehow a new and radical idea for Americans.
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>>69378016

You must be new here, Bernfag. Like I said, please suicide, you're making your father embarrassed, and he barely knows you.

Once again, you prove leftists have zero reading comprehension, and are always choosing to make someone a victim so you can pretend to champion their cause even if it's a non-issue and completely fabricated. Go fuck off.
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>>69377482
>Supporting abortion

Shaved your armpits yet this year, feminazi?
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>>69377849
>Romney was more competitive than someone who hasn't won the primary yet to directly compete with the Democratic candidate
Retard.
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>>69377934
>if something there is illegal there should be a punishment

>>SO IF IT WERE ILLEGAL TO CRITICIZE JEWS YOU'D BE OKAY WITH THE DEATH PENALTY FOR THAT CRIME
Red herring. Nobody said here that if abortions were illegal the mother should be killed. Just that if you're going to make something illegal, you have to have some sort of disincentive to break the law, otherwise the law might not as well exist as breaking it would be consequence free.
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>>69376257
This. Pro-life has been gaining recently in the polls, people are getting tired of murdering the nation's future. This will also help him get out the base of the GOP which has been looking shaky with the #NeverTrump BS.
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>>69378089

It's a new idea for the American leftists, the rest of us crave seeing actual justice and not just social justice bullshit.
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>>69377934
slippery slope

next
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ahh surely this will stump the trump
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>>69375567
Stumped. If this is true it's over.
Thanks, Trump you fucking retard.
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>>69377640

>every citizen's logic
>trumpcucks
please be trumpcuck making fun of libtards, else you're so god damn dumb
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>>69376257
I'm getting pretty sick of women desu so I'd vote for him. I hate abortions on a moral level but understand that they're the #1 nigger repellent, so punishing those who have them satisfies both sides of me.
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>>69377715
Why should it be illegal? Why should a women be forced to spend large amounts of money and travel a great distance because Republicans enact overburdening laws that make abortion clinics inaccessible in some states when she can safely induce a miscarriage herself?
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>Trump: breaking the law is a crime
>condemned by politicians and press
what a world
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>>69378189
someone's mad
>>69378238
It's not a red herring. You just said its okay for something to get you in trouble if its illegal. So, my logic is foolproof. It is illegal to shitpost on 4chan, maybe you should get banned.
>>69378208
Its extremely easy to confirm this if you compare the polls between Obama and Romeny and Trump and Clinton. you're dumb
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>People who break law must be punished.
I fail to see the problem on this one.
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>>69377331
Certain types of abortion are illegal now, moron.
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>>69378340
fallacy fallacy
next
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>>69375567
I am now a #CruzMissileâ„¢.
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>>69376877
>Morgentaler
Read about him in my 3rd year Poly Sci class. Man makes my skin crawl and my blood boil. We fucked up so hard in the 80s and can't seem to repair the damage.
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>>69378466
no. trumpcucks are synonymous with liberals but i was just attacking trumpcucks because this site is infested with them. maybe cause you're european you wouldn't understand autonomy and the fact that the nanny state is useless.
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>>69377879
He has absolutely no chance of reaching out nationally to women without losing the support of his base. His base hates the idea of Republicans pandering to liberal women so what makes you so sure he can get national support without losing his primary support?
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>>69377934
Your idea of solving that situation is keeping that illegal but not punishing it

An alternative idea would be making it legal
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>>69377529
Democunts won't vote for him period. He'll bring in the moderates and everyone who's sick to death of the regressive left.

>>69377611
If women fuck it up again I hope they all get raped to death by shitskins. I won't lift a finger to save them.
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>>69378586
Shoo shoo shill
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https://youtu.be/E6C31utPePc
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The same people freaking out about Donald wanting "some form of punishment" if abortion were outlawed are the same ones who think deporting illegals is "racist."

Just food for thought.
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>>69378299
>Murdering the nations future

Yeah I'm sure those kids who were going to be raised by single 16 year old mothers would have all grown up to cure cancer and aids.
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Its smart to do not so smart politics. The americans love this kind of shit.
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>>69375567

Hello evangelical vote
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>>69378483
Because it's evil, now fuck off with your moral relativist bullshit.
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>>69378500

Not at all, but you have to understand that it gets frustrating talking with Bernouts who simply are incapable of rational thought or paying attention. Maybe if you try using your noggin, you'll figure out why you seem to be the only one who can't figure out how saying that people who do illegal things may be due for repercussions. Not a tough concept to grasp, bro.
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>>69378238

/pol/ is missing the whole point.

Yes, if you do something illegal you shoulf be punished, but just because its illegal does not mean its morally wrong (lets save the morality of abortion for some other time).

Trump could have turned it around and said something like "Well lets do something so these desprate women DON'T have to committ abortions" and win points from leftists and women.

But nope, he had to pander to the knuckle-dragging hicks and appear tough on "dem gawdless demoncrats".
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>>69378811
You think he can sway the Mormons?
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>>69378500
>You just said its okay for something to get you in trouble if its illegal.
Yes, if something is illegal and a person violates that law then it should be possible for smoeone to get in trouble.

>You just said its okay for something to get you in trouble if its illegal.
>>>/b/

>It is illegal to shitpost on 4chan, maybe you should get banned.
Shitposting is a bannable offense, but that would apply to someone construing people who get illegal abortions as "having some form of punishment" as being equal to advocating to the death penalty for a simple offense more than it would to my post.

I'm not going to reply further because it's clear you have nothing constructive to contribute here other than making ridiculous comparisons. Your statement is comparable to me saying
>I think that people who park in handicapped spots without a permit should be punished
and you saying
>DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE SENT TO THE DEATH CHAMBERS
Fuck no, a $250 ticket and maybe a tow would be a good punishment.
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>punishing people for doing something illegal is wrong

These are the same people who think deporting illegals is wrong. Next.
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>>69378483
because it is incredibly dangerious and weakens public safety, but hey I understand you make a bit of cash ruining roasties vag's forever out of your trailer park so aslong as noone catches you you're fine.
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>>69378861
>not mean its morally wrong
But it is. Murder is morally wrong.

Do you even know what states are coming up to vote?
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Abortion is a good thing retards, imagine how many more niggers we would have if abortion wasn't legal.
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>>69376691
>For the woman?
>Yeah.

That's the context. The correct answer for people who want to win elections is "no".
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>>69378550
>>69378530
>>69378089
Why should self induced miscarriages be illegal?
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I don't even care if this hurts his standings, at least someone will say if you do illegal shit you get punished, it doesn't matter if it hurts your fee fees.
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>>69378861
>win points from leftists and women.

You can't win by pandering to worthless people and hyper-emotional women.

Seriously, there's a lot of retard going around this thread, it's reaching levels I never thought possible.
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>>69378861
>Yes, if you do something illegal you shoulf be punished, but just because its illegal does not mean its morally wrong (lets save the morality of abortion for some other time).

>Trump could have turned it around and said something like "Well lets do something so these desprate women DON'T have to committ abortions" and win points from leftists and women.

I am inclined to agree with you, it was a poor language choice. Had he phrased it as "those who seek illegal abortions" it might have been less of a meme soundbite. Now he just sounds like a biblethumper against desperate women. He handled the situation much less eloquently than he could have.
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>>69376373
>saying that somebody who breaks the law should face legal punishment
>this is a 'gaffe'
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>>69375567
>I shouldn't be punished for breaking the law because I'm a woman
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>>69376517
It's over, dude. OVER.
Between this and the fact that he can't answer simple questions and repeats the same things over and over again. And everyone is noticing that. His poll numbers are diving. And he puts up a picture of rato's wife calling her ugly.
He's a fucking retard.

>What would you do to help the Sikhs that are attacked because people think they're muslims?
>Muslims, ok, I said we should have a ban. Ok. And we will because there's something going on.

He's burned out. At least we'll always have this debates w/ Jeb!, f a m.
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>>69379028
>I am inclined to agree with you, it was a poor language choice. Had he phrased it as "those who seek illegal abortions"
Meant those who provide illegal abortions*

In some cases this is the person themselves but it's less common and makes women seem like victims (even if they're victimizing themselves by this logic). Instead he seems like he wants to pursue women for being desperate and that plays poorly across most of the political spectrum.
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>>69375567
Pandering is disingenuous anyway. It's worse when coming from Trump because you know it's bullshit.
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>>69378767
were you trying to be witty because that wasn't very funny or made any sense
>>69378830
you're definitely upset
>>69378894
>Yes, if something is illegal and a person violates that law then it should be possible for smoeone to get in trouble.

so if I made it illegal to be white then you should get in trouble right
>you have nothing constructive to contribute here other than making ridiculous comparisons.
thanks summing for yourself up, ID filtered
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>>69378785
Because no child born to a 16 year old has ever acomplished anything.
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>>69378189
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it...
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>>69378896
>These are the same people who think deporting illegals is wrong. Next.

Illegals are foreigners. The whole reason Trump is popular is he's not afraid to put the interests of Americans before foreign nationals. The abortion issue is about us. Saying that you'll punish American woman for having an abortion won't make American woman more likely to vote for you.
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>>69378785
I don't hang around poor crackheads often, but I don't think they should be murdered.
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>"This issue is unclear and should be put back into the states for determination," Trump said in a written statement e-mailed to Bloomberg Politics. "Like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions, which I have outlined numerous times."

>http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-30/trump-says-abortion-ban-should-carry-punishment-for-women

He wants to leave it to the states, which sounds perfectly fine. He was asked if it were illegal, should there be a punishment. This, like everything else, is being blown way the fuck up by the media.
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>>69378896
>go to abortion clinic to be examined if you're elligable for one
>get told no because it's too late or may need to wait some time before space opens up
>go to a private shady clinic and go through gruesome procedure or fall for the coat hanger meme
>end up being horribly injured and having to cost the healthcare system even more
>retards want to defend this
Illegal abortions are fucked but I doubt anyone who is in favor for them has actually seen the effects
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>>69378959
because some people would abort at 30 weeks and since the baby could live by himself out of the womb it would clearly be a murder.

Abortion should not be conducted after 23 weeks of gestation.
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>>69375567
>Illegal Abortions
Wow, can't believe Trump wants to punish people for doing something illegal
What a disgusting white male amirite?
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>>69379149

"Keep your hands off women's rights, abortion of any type shouldn't be illegal!"

"MODS, someone's disagreeing with me, they should be banned!"

Yep, you sound like a rational fella. Stay retarded, buddy, it seems to be your forte`.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/715264587084472321

Read and spread it faggots.
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>>69378672
I'm not sure what you mean. Why would his base have any problem with him addressing women's issues? He already talks about them constantly.

He can mention all the times Hillary has fucked women (getting off a child rapist, harassing Bill's rape victims, laughing on tape about freeing someone she knew was guilty, etc). He can extrapolate on his ideas about women's health (insurance policies, etc.) He is constantly attacked for defending Planned Parenthood, which may hurt him during the primary but will definitely help during the general. He can brag about his hiring of women to lead major construction projects, which was unheard of during the 80s. He can bring his wife and daughter on the trail with him to talk about his treatment of women. His campaign spokesperson is a woman. He has plenty to work with.
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>>69379392
hahah salty cuck
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>>69378709
>If women fuck it up again I hope they all get raped to death by shitskins. I won't lift a finger to save them.


You must be 18 to post here, son.
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>>69375567
what does this even mean
'abortion bans' only affect poor people anyways, as rich white women who need an abortion can simply travel to another country to get it done. poor people are left to back-alley fuck-ups or useless 'home remedies' like falling down the stairs. already punishment enough imo
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>>69378861
No YOU are missing the point. As chief of the executive branch, it will be Trump's duty to enforce the law. He does not get to write the law, that is Congress's domain. Therefore, illegal abortions MUST be punished, there is no question under the constitution.

>Trump could have turned it around by dodging the question
you mean like every sleazy politician in the world? "I don't want to answer your question, so here's a soundbite for the press." That isnt Trump's style. Trump is not afraid of the press.
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He fucking blew the fuck out of Chris Matthews about the Catholic Church's stanch on it.
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>>69378815
So abortion at home is evil but an abortion at a clinic is not? Or are they both evil and you just accept the idea that only the government is justified in allowing abortions under their terms?

>>69378936
It is dangerous to the person getting the abortion which probably 99% of the people in this thread don't care about anyways. There are also safe ways to terminate it. Make it legal to perform at home and just require them to bring the body to the nearest hospital.
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>>69377402
>Why any man has an opinion about womans uterus is beyond me....
>Yes doctor, I'd like to circumcise my new-born son!
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>you should be punished for breaking the law
Woah, how will he recover?!?!
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>>69378959
What do your shoulds have to do with the ares?
Instead of being upset that Trump claims the law should be upheld, why not run to your precious Obama and ask him why the law exists right fucking now?
The left is in charge at the moment, why haven't they gotten rid of the things you don't like yet?
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>>69378709
>If women fuck it up again I hope they all get raped to death by shitskins. I won't lift a finger to save them.

This. If women make Trump lose, even the dumbest white knight will realize that women are the cancer of society.

Right now Hillary is massively leading with women.
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he just put our a statement saying he wants to punish the doctor not the patient, as they are the victim along with the baby in the womb
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>>69377402
You gave a man the option when you let him put his penis in it.
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>>69376257
lol no it will not
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>break the law
>shouldn't be punished
Wat?
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>>69379463
>You must be 18 to post here, son.

Are you stupid? His post not only makes sense but is 100% /pol/tier.
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>>69378947
also I don't see much wrong with the type of woman who gets an abortion removing herself from the gene pool
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>>69375856
Punish the abortionist
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>>69379593
Based dutch man
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>>69379732
The woman is a victim? Is he retarded?
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>>69378940

Your book says its morally wrong.
>inb4 this country is Christian, burn in hell degenerate, etc.

>>69379011
He's starting to fuck up, he needs to stop being a fringe candidate and get moderate if he wants to win. All he's doing right now is giving Hillary the ammunition needed to get destroyed in the general campaign.

He already has all the support he's going to get, if you havent made your mind about Trump by now you are not going to.
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>>69379953
Its to pacify all the retarded "I am a womyn hear me roar" who'll come along if he says he'd punish the women for getting it too
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>>69379451

Tender butthurt Bernfag is sad, thanks to me.

Can't stump the Trump, faggots, when will you learn?

Your punch-drunk random drivel isn't getting you anywhere, and your inability to know how/when to use "cuck" properly just validates showing how terribly butthurt you faggots are.
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>>69379608
>The left is in charge
We have a Republican controlled congress so no, the left is not in charge
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>>69380137
you're boring me, seeya later
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>>69379624
Fucked himself, media won't give him air to breath on this one.
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Sluts gotta learn not to get knocked up desu
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>If abortion were illegal, we should punish women who receive it.

Another sensational headline from Cock Nigger Network, move along.
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>>69379958
>Your book says its morally wrong.
Absolutely fedorable. I never even told you my religion but I guess Christianity is the only religion no, the only belief system, that says murder is wrong.
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>>69379958
Where do you get your morals from that allows you to assess this situation then
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>>69379958

We've seen how well the plan of "you need to pander to group X" has done in the past, why do some people fail to pick up on the fact that if something fails time and time again, you're an idiot if you keep repeating it?

Trump scores higher with Mexicans than any other conservative candidate despite the meme of "Conservatives need to be about open borders if they want the Mexican vote!", so come on, man, let's get real about this and not keep shouting the same tired lines that are meant to sink a candidate rather than boost him. Trump doesn't need to win Hillary's crowd over, he won't/can't anyway, so he needs to stick to the plan because IT'S WHAT HAS BEEN WORKING.

If he took the sort of advice you're pitching, he'd have already bailed out when the support would have tanked. But, I'm guessing that's what you want anyway, so whatever.
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>>69375567
He's obviously trying to pander and pick up Cruz supporters with this, I have no problem with it
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>>69377402

same reason a woman has a opinion on a mans bank account i guess
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>>69380137
Is he going to lose Wisconsin?
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>>69380224

>Lalalalala, someone disagreed with me and I can't back my opinions up, so I quit!

I'm glad you've recognized that I'm your superior and that resistance is futile.
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>>69375567
This was a pretty retarded move, his former stance of leave it up to the States was perfect. This was how I was selling Trump to my socially liberal friends and family, the fact that he didn't really have strong stances on any social issues and was mostly for leaving these things up to the States to decide.
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>>69380539

We'll see next week, won't we?

Lots of Cruz action going on here these days, it's going to be interesting on Tuesday.
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>>69379958
Trump stopped being a fringe candidate long ago. He's the Republican frontrunner with support across all states, races and religious. Just let Trump be Trump and lead our country already.
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>>69380381
>implying morals exists

Can I have some of yours, apperantly I need them to be a good person. If you could mail them pls.

>>69380358

You know what I meant, you were indoctrinated and taught from birth what's wrong and right and this somehow makes you better than everyone else, so much so you want big daddy government to make sure everyone thinks like you.
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>>69380447
Trump is pandering you fucking idiot - hes pandering to you and people like you and so far its worked. He has his loyal base who will vote for him.

But right now, as it stands, thats all he is going to get. Please, explain to me how he has a chance in the GE?

Im voting for him, but i hold no real belief he will win. Im just supporting the movemwnt around him
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>>69379576
>Or are they both evil and you just accept the idea that only the government is justified in allowing abortions under their terms?
None of it is justified, but if we're going to have it, then punishing women who do it illegally causes the most damage to those who'd seek an abortion.

Also, it's enforcing the law.

>>69379576
>It is dangerous to the person getting the abortion which probably 99% of the people in this thread don't care about anyways
And that's why it's great. They deserve to fuck themselves up horribly for trying to kill their unborn child.
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>>69375567
No fetus is illegal.
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I'd like Donald to punish my womb desu if you know what I mean senpai
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>>69375567

> break the law
> doesn't want consequences

Are people stupid?
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>>69380669
hol up
what he said was
if congress passed a law making abortions illegal, then people performing illegal abortions should have some form of punishment
nothing else
dont let the media get 2u
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>>69380669
He still believes that. Did you read the article? The media is blowing this out of proportion. What Trump said is basically a tautology.

Trump: "This issue is unclear and should be put back into the states for determination. "
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>>69379953
Gotta pander to the vaginal Jew. Also, targeting doctors who do it is the most effective way to undermine a person's ability to procure one, and punishing those who seek and obtain them illegally is even better.
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>>69380824
Too many democrat voters will be aborted by the time of the general. He'll win in a landslide.
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>People should be able to break the law if they find it immoral or unreasonable!!

Anyone who legitimately believes this must also believe in Sharia Law Zones, because Muslims should not be bound by laws they deem "unfair" and "violating their natural law."
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>>69380913
>>69380957
God damn it, I've got to stop falling for this clickbait headline bullshit.
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I almost thought there would be no way to defend this statement on first glance. But are the left going to pretend that illegality does not exist in any form. So they are fine with breaking the law, until corporations do the same?
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>>69380669
He still believes that, he just says we need to punish the people who do it illegal, which is 100% true.
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Isn't abortion legal in the US?

Why would there be punishment for a legal activity?
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>>69379593
Nice one mate. Gonna remember that one
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>>69381045
You really need to.

>>69381117
Pretty much.
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>>69380778
>You know what I meant, you were indoctrinated and taught from birth
Wow buddy heavy on the implications.
>implying you know what my upbringing was
>implying I can't think for myself and address the world around without being beholden to my past
This is what you sound like
>hurr nobody enlightened like myself could ever have morals
What's it like being scum? That's what people without morals are universally considered as being by the way. I'm not imaginative enough to put myself in your shoes.
>so much so you want big daddy government
I never said what I wanted the government to do. I never stated a single political belief of my own. You're one stupid shit.
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>>69381143
it is
and it's not going to be illegal any time soon
this is a stupid, baiting hypothetical question that the media has turned into a bait headline
any answer he gave to it would have been inconsequential
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>>69375567
The problem isn't the premise of the article, the problem is the media is now saying
>trump says punishment for abortion
Leaving out illegal entirely. What they don't realize is that this will help grow his base in the republicans and is totally false and will be forgotten by June. Basically they don't realize it but they are helping him win the gop primary
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>>69380778
You posted
>Yes, if you do something illegal you shoulf be punished, but just because its illegal does not mean its morally wrong

Why make this distinction when you personally do not believe that the distinction can be made
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>>69375567
I thought this was the Onion for a second.

"Trump saying people who break laws should be punished, water also wet, JUST LIKE HITLER"
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>>69381264
and to add to that

What good does not having morals do for you? You've done nothing for fear of the repercussions from everyone else having morals around you so you might as well have morals yourself right? Because you live like you do whether you like it or not.

inb4 some preposterous anecdotes of the edgy variety
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Black people like him -- KKK!!!

Women like him -- wants in your vaginas!!!

Bernie voters won't vote Hillary -- protests!!!

These people are savage and smart
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Why the fuck are you retarded faggots against abortion??????????????? You know that most women who get abortions are poor niggers right? I understand that you're insecure and want to control what women can and cannot do but you fucking imbeciles need to look at the bigger picture for fucks sake
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>>69381670

Did you actually read the thread before typing?
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>>69381670
Of all issues, I'd expect people to understand abortion. After all, murder is illegal and the line between murder and abortion is VERY blurred.
>30 question marks
ah, you're retarded. that explains it
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>>69375567
>SOMEONE WHO BREAKS THE LAW SHOULD BE PUNISHED

BY THE GODS
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>>69375567

So, what's wrong with the picture?

(economically liberal, social conservative,
non-sjw here)
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>>69381494
When did I ever say I didn't have morals?

I have my own that are based on my life experiences, but because it doesn't come from an approved list, they are somehow less significant.
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>>69381757
The reason women are getting illegal abortions is because conservative fuck tards have made it impossible to get abortions. These lawmakers should be punished for violating the law.

>>69381836
So you'd rather have dindus running around robbing, raping women, and murdering people? You're not very bright are you?
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>>69379732

>my position hasn't changed
>except from 30 minutes ago when i said something completely different
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>>69381836
You know that massive drop off in crime that happened in the US during the 90s? You don't think it MAYBE had something to do with the fact that Roe v Wade was passed 20 years prior? Why do you want society to suffer because of your ignorant beliefs?
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>>69382096
>The reason women are getting illegal abortions is because conservative fuck tards have made it impossible to get abortions. These lawmakers should be punished for violating the law.

Okay, I will bite: how is it impossible, as in there is no way, to get an abortion in the US?
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>>69382052
You can forgive me for thinking you don't have morals because when I asked you where did you get your morals from you replied with

>>implying morals exists

Right now your in a limbo state where you know you have something that you don't believe exists
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>>69381836
Abortion is a way to purge tens of millions of niggers and various degenerates. Not only niggers, but liberal women have more abortions.

Abortion is a eugenist wet dream.
Abortion is an eugenism and genetic cleansing of Galton and Ehrenfels proportions.

Since the typical progressivve values things with a narrow band of feel-good emotions, the indirect method of abortion goes not merely undetected but they actually praise it.

Seeing them defend abortion give me a curious feeling. They are praising their own destruction.
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>>69381600
Death by a thousand cuts, it's been horrifically beautiful to watch.
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>>69382249
>illegal things are illegal
>somehow this is a new position worth commenting on
ok kiddo
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>>69375567
And the media spin starts.
Local Las Vegas news.
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Why is abortion such a big issue in the US?
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>>69382794

read both his statements then get back to me
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I'm a Trump supporter but this is fucking retarded

I don't even believe Trump actually believes that

Why the fuck does he keep pandering so hard to bible thumping morons? He's already been fucked over with that vote (see: Iowa)

Honestly the only thing he's said this entire campaign that genuinely upsets me.
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>>69383073
Gawd.
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>>69378340
>slippery slope
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>>69376257

Yup. Trump is exposing how brittle all these liberal sacred cow issues are.

He said stop muslim immigration temporarily but abortion is going to bring him down? Nigga pls.
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>>69375567
More media spinning, whats new?
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>>69383154

Read the source again.
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>>69375567
If you guys trully support trump you may copy his hair do
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>>69375567
Why did he previously say it was okay, then only okay for certain reasons (rape, medical issues), then say it should be decided by states, no it should be illegal all over?
wtf
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I don't agree with pro-life in general. Abortion is a great nigger/spic population control, as those two groups get more abortions per capita than whites do.

Still, this isn't enough to get me to not vote for him. The other choices are all globalist traitors.
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>>69383300

A lot of Americans are actually sick of Mudslimes though. Preventing them in the country makes America great again.

Trying to prevent people from getting abortion doesn't make America great again at all.

>>69383398

What about it? I saw the live clip.

Being anti-abortion in the first place is retarded.

We need a conservative who doesn't also pander to retarded Christians.
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>>69383465

I'm getting tired.

CAN YOU STUPID FUCKS READ WHAT HE SAID INSTEAD OF JUMPING IN CLICK BAIT HEADLINES?
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>>69375567
Well, why shouldn't illegal abortion be punished?
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>>69383465
He's flexible. MAGA
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>>69377602
its the other way around frog, hes saying obama was losing like trump currently is, but obama made it, and theres more people voting for repubs this time
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>>69383710
that's offensive. please call it undocumented abortion.
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>>69375567
There was a controversy less than a couple months ago about how Donald wasn't pro-life ENOUGH

Fuck I hate everything
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Well that was quick

It's like he doesn't want to win...ffs. It was a great common sense position.
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The point isn't that he's saying that illegal abortions should be punished, the point is that his stance on abortion changed and then he changed back again. It's a fuck up no matter how you look at it.
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Why are people making such a big deal out of this?

Have you guys not been paying attention? This isn't going to hurt Trumps campaign he has said much worst and he is still unstumped
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>>69375567
I see we got another mud slinging campaign and taken out of context to a whole new level, holy fuck you can't make this shit up.

Trump said that if Congress made a law to make abortion illegal and it passed thus becoming national law, then by that reason it would be required by law to be punished if said law was broken, he never said "Yeah women that abort need to be punished" This blows my mind on so many levels and the dumb ass people will eat it up, whether you like or hate this man this is just flat out lying and defamation.
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I really, really don't want this to be the thing that does in Trump.
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>>69384141
see
>>69384095
why are you just making shit up?
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This will make his independents and democrats switching lower. As long as he doesnt make it a major point, he can pull them. This is a major point.Women are the majority, we are doomed. He needs to stick to the script.
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>>69375567
He just went back on it and said it was a hypothetical response.
I'm sure he was baited into it just like everything else
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>>69377934
a law is a law no matter how stupid it is
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>>69383106

I can understand him flipflopping on this. When we're at the point where 'Illegal acts should be punished' is hatespeech then we're kinda fucked.
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trump just lost president
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>>69375567
Goodbye OP

>>69375856
First post best post.
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>>69378483
Yet the man gets no say in the matter of abortion!
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>>69384328
In the OP, it's quoting Trump as saying that the woman should be punished if abortion is illegal. In that statement, it says that the doctors should be held accountable for an illegal abortion.

Unless you could provide the context between the quote in the OP if it proves otherwise??
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Honestly, you should be fined for illegal abortion
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>>69380214
>We have a Republican controlled congress
who vote as thought they were on the other team, right
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>>69375567
How do you carry a phone that big?
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>>69376431
I know you're spouting a meme, but I think it's actually over this time. Trump walked right into the trap.
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>>69377228
Has everyone learned yet, he could say "God bless America" and the media would twist it to say "Trump claims America is a Christian nation"?

Don't worry about the media anymore, their approval rating is lower than Congress. Only idiots think the media is relevant. The Internet is more relevant now. Spread some memes instead of reading the news. Go into a forum and correct misinformation instead.
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>>69375567
>spouting meme issues like abortion,gay marriage and weed
Seriously,there are greater things to be discussed
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>>69385284
(((((Silver)))))

>>69385245
HOLY SHIT POL BTFO HOW COULD HE EVER RECOVER!!!!
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>>69375567

I am tired of Trump, but Cruz is worse so I guess I'm stuck with Trump or wasting a vote on Johnson again.
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>On average, women give at least 3 reasons for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 3/4 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner

>tfw most abortion have nothing to do with rape and those that are involved with rape are very little compared to dumbass excuses for being a whore.
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>>69386276
Who cares? Most abortions are done in the first trimester before the fetus can gain any cognitive abilities. Plus its mostly blacks that get abortions so you choose your poison.
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>>69375856
/thread
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>>69386276
Who even gives a fuck? Life only has the value that we as humans decide to allocate to it.

https://mises.org/library/subjective-value-theory
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/subjective-theory-of-value.asp

How much is foetal nigger-life worth to you?
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>>69375567
>women who get pregnant then let some fuck stick a hanger in them in an ally shouldn't be punished

fuck that. my grandma made ym mom do that when she had her first period because she thought my mom was pregnant. ruined her innards and all her kids came out with some sort of problem (for me it's slightly deformed eyes that mess up my vision because they're not positioned perfectly in my skull). The very thought of someone sticking a metal hanger into a woman's vag in a random ally just makes me cringe with disgust, even when just typing this.
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>>69379373
>>69380132
How does one go about getting an abortion in India?
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>>69375856

/thread
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>>69375567
>Thinks making something illegal will stop it.
>Drugs
>The Current year

This will just force woman to find worse ways to do it.
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>>69375856
Should people be punished for grazing on land which is legally owned by the federal government without paying the legal price.
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The woman should have not got a illegal abortion in the first place
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>>69376503
We can only dream he's half the man Adolf was.
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You idiots can't see the big picture. Most Americans don't care about abortion as much as Evangelical Christians. They aren't going to be swayed by this. Worst, any home for bringing in Democrats is gone. Sure you got Blue Dog Democrats but they are already close to Republican socially to begin with. Further, he lost half of the Millennial vote. A lot of them are progressives socially and don't much about economics besides muh free stuff.
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>>69388308
>find worse ways to do it
Having read some of the local parish almanac from the 1700s to 1900s I can attest to this. Really, flushing a living child down the toilet? Have women no empathy?
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You know you don't have to agree with every single policy a candidate has, in order to believe he's the better choice
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>>69388319
Yes? Why the fuck shouldn't they?
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Question for all of you who agree with that statement. Since you believe abortion is murder it would make sense to charge the woman with accessory to murder or murder, and if someone like a doctor did it, the same right?
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>>69375567
I am a far, far left Bernie supporter and even I don't see anything wrong with this statement
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Seems like a statement one would make to make the Cruz to Trump transition easier.
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>>69375567
bomb threat at op's school get in here
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HOW CAN TRUMP EVER RECOVER?

Are you ready for Shillery? Because that's what you gonna get with this.


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>>69388298

>>69388298
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>>69389063
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>>69388612
wow no dude he is literally hitler if i disagree with one spun quote

>>69388819
>Question for all of you who agree with that statement.
You don't agree that someone doing an illegal abortion should be punished?
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>>69389150
I'm saying if abortion is murder then you'd charge the woman with accessory to murder or murder, right?
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>>69375856
saved for prosperity
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