I hate family guy but this is SO true. Imagine if we didn't have christianity around to ruin all of our progress in the fields of science
>>69156150
christianity also helps people it's not easy to tell those spiritual that their whole life is a lie.
So if Christianity was so bad, why didn't Islam/Buddism/Jews push the world forward during the middle ages? I mean they were pretty advanced civilisations?
Good luck in a world where the crusades didn't happen
>>69156150
Yeah I don't see many of that in China ,a land untainted by Christianity during the middle ages
>>69156150
> babby's first day in history class
Christianity essentially saved Western Europe from becoming, well, Africa. For 1000 years, there wasn't any other repository of knowledge and learning.
>>69156150
The only reason science can develop is because of western civilization, and just about any form of civilization would be impossible without moral regulation through religion. At worst, Christianity is a necessary evil.
>>69156690
You clearly haven't seen Mongolian rocket cars!
>>69156310
>>69156618
>>69156669
>>69156690
>>69156713
>>69156726
Daily reminder that all the great christian-themed works of art were made my men who were atheist
>hurr durr dark ages were because of evil christianity
it's called the fall of the roman empire you fucking retard
>>69156150
>he fells for the dark ages meme
Literally didn't happen.
>>69156150
>people actually believe this
>>69156150
>if there was a great flood what would you expect to see?
>>69156818
> praises science and reason
> just makes shit up on the internet
>>69156669
this tbqh fampai
if Christianity didn't exist we'd probably all be fucking Muslims
>>69156150
>implying the gods and religion hasn't inspired innovation
Granted the dark ages sucked, but all that religious upbringing had a huge influence on many amazing minds. It's okay if you hate Christianity, but don't be as narrow minded as the religion you're claiming to be nothing but an anchor.
Also
>judging your beliefs on a cartoon show
You sure you aren't religious
>>69156150
>>69156150
No this is wrong the dark ages are garbage history, most historians hate calling it that
>>69156818
They were greatest artists because the power of ethernal fedora gave them strength to carry on
>>69156150
OP is a faggot as usual.
>he still believes the dark ages meme
That was also the same Family Guy episode which claimed that if we hadn't nuked Japan then they would have won the war.
>>69156867
I'd love to hear this one. You should put your Aus flag on before you make statements likes those buddy.
>>69156150
Why do people keep regurgitating this nonsense? Everyone with half a brain knows that there was no massive technological regression during the Dark Ages, quality of life fell pretty drastically but technology didn't regress and progressed forward in many ways. In fact the main thing that kept knowledge from being lost were the Christian Churches safeguarding and maintaining Roman literature.
I'd say we need better education but we learn all of these things in grade school history classes. There is no excuse for being this retarded.
>>69156150
>>69157001
But the dark ages didn't suck at all. Serfs were better treated than slaves during antiquity. agriculture explosed (we saw a demographic explosion mid 10th century).
The name dark age come from the period of regular barbaric incursions and general poverty didn't provide for historical recordings on the level the roman empire did.
Reminder:
Isaac Newton was Christian.
Yet in the episode during in the multiverse without Christianity they visit the Sistine Chapel.
If there was no Christianity then there shouldn't be a Sistine Chapel
>>69157123
not to mention
>christianity existing
>america ever winning the revolution or getting large amounts of migrates to kickstart the country
>>69157494
They sucked massively compared to the Roman era.
>>69157112
>mocking and underestimating the power of the eternal trilby
>>69156818
back to tumblr fedora fag
>>69156150
Yeah Seth, it was definitely Christianity that was the cause and totally not the Fall of the Roman Empire.
Other races couldn't advance anything with all the Germanic privilege mucking everything up.
>>69157584
>He thinks anyone cares, least of all the writers, that Family Guy was inconsistent.
>>69156150
Ain't a Christ fag but even I know that one of the original spurns for nationalism was religion.
>>69156310
Hey this guy took my kidney but sewed me up and gave me a cookie! He's good, right?
>Arabs prospered in the dark ages and still fucked with Europe
>Still a massive shithole today
You can't explain that
>>69157123
Came here to post this. Nature philosophy and scientific investigation were born out of Christian monasticism.
>>69156933
This 100%
>>69157865
you know hes only written a few episodes for each of his shows?
>not knowing the dark ages were caused by Muslim invasions and piracy supported by Jew-spread plague
Nobody studies history anymore. Moors from North Africa conquered Spain and southwest France. Corsairs supported by Venice jews controlled Italy to the southern edge of Rome. Anatolia lost. Library of Antioch burned by Muslims, Library of Alexandria burned by Muslims.
European coastal towns move inland to avoid pirate raids by Muslim corsairs and pagan Vikings. 1/3rd of many countries die to the bubonic plague intentionally spread.
You don't know your history.
>>69156150
Complete fallacy.
>>69158232
>implying he doesn't have creative input on the shows
>implying he's not the same level of militant atheism as Ricky Gervais
>implying he's not a producer for le Black Science Man hour
>>69158177
>Robbed everyone.
>Prospered.
Some gangsters "prosper" as well. Doesn't mean it's not nigger behavior.
>>69156150
NORTH KOREA WANTS NUCLEAR WAR >>69157580
Christianity is the only reason scribes existed, and due to that, any history or writing for that matter from the period. Without the church writing shit down we would have lost a ton of knowledge from the fall of the Romans.
>>69156310
>christianity also helps people
The power of god is scientificaly proven. pic related
>>69157615
The groundwork for feudalism and serfdom was set during the Crisis of the Third Century. Diocletian's reforms essentially codified what was already happening: "freemen" were leaving the cities and becoming "coloni," basically exchanging their rights as free citizens for the security of not being murdered or starving to death on farms.
This was a long time before Western Rome fell.
>>69158410
>implying he doesn't just sell the pilots with him voicing most of the characters for an easy paycheck
>implying this isn't his side project while he pretends to be Frank Sinatra
I really doubt hes in the writers room saying "we haven't shit on jesus enough this season"
>>69156150
Your post reeks of tumblr and newfag.
>>69156150
Get your shit together America, this is the sort of shit I'd expect from a maplenigger or an Aussie.
Genetic engineering should really be a thing, with that and AI humanity really could eventually become a space faring species.
>>69156150
OP is a faggot. Muslims destroy non-Islamic texts, monuments... not Christians. Quit regurgitating the leftist filth you so willingly guzzled.
Come on guys we all know its the shitskins holding us back.
>>69156150
>hur because only Christianity has halted science in history
Seriously is this a fucking meme? Do people actually believe this one fairy tale is the only one to negatively impacted science?
>>69156150
without evil Christianity all the books from antiquity would have been lost.
>>69157615
This, dark ages absolutely sucked
>>69157584
>gif
>>69157383
>G0d
>that ID
HAPPENING
>>69156150
I highly doubt that is true
Massive change comes from a few unique individuals, not society.
>>69157383
Weapons of war dramatically advanced
I'd say the religious and feudal warfare advanced us quite a lot during those times
weapons lead to medicine
>>69156669
But without Christianity there wouldn't be Islam, so there wouldn't have been need for the Crusades.
>>69156150
>Imagine if we didn't have christianity
Should be
>Imagine if we didn't have jews
>>69156150
and wow, 100 years after the decline of Christianity we are looking at a more barbaric religious invasion that will destroy the west.
>>69158308
No, the Dark Ages was a result of the Roman Empire toppling due to inner corruption and being overrun by barbarians; once that happened, all the knowledge and sciences that it had discovered became forgotten, hence the "dark" ages.
>>69156150
>This shitty meme
If it weren't for medieval monks meticously trying to recover and save Ancient Roman knowledge and arts, we'd still be in the fucking dark ages dunce bucket.
>>69156150
>>69156150
>ruin
Implying the Muslims and Chinese weren't centuries ahead of of Yurop after the eternal Teuton attacked.
The renaissance was started after Arabic math/physics texts were translated into European languages.
If anything, it was the Mongols that fucked everything up.
>>69156150
The "dark ages" was caused not by religion, but the destruction of the classical world (the Roman Empire) by invasions from tribal groups from the north.
This is a horseshit understanding of history. Christian monks were the forefathers of modern Science. Without them we would be further "behind".
>>69156150
wouldnt that make us Jews, or something
>>69160367
By what? Wrecking the Muslim stranglehold? Nah bro. The Mongols were the first honest to goodness freedom of religion. Hosted some of the first religious debates, and didnt give half a fuck as long as the taxes aka tribute rolled in and you didnt try to subvert their rule.
The Silk road was a mongol institution, Marco Polo just ambled along it for awhile.
>>69160541
The Mongols burned all the great libraries of the ancient world. While the pax-Mongolia that came afterward was bretty good, the actual act of wiping out everyone and everything during their conquests set humanity behind by centuries. They dried up rivers and built towers of skulls after wiping out the most advanced civilizations of the time.
>What is black death
>What is fall of Rome
>What is small isolationist societies
must be single handley religion.
Then again im sure even the animator would admit the whole thing he was doing was in comedy and shouldn't be taken seriously. Unfortunately a lot of idiots mistaken comedic scenes as informative. They're like children who get their news from spongebob.
>>69156150
>that picture
Thats one of the most retarded things ive ever seen. Learn to history you fucking tard.
>>69156798
Makes you think
>>69156150
Stop with that fucking troll you weak cuck.
>>69159862
>without christianity there wouldn't have been Islam.
Islam is sprung of from judaism. Even if Christianity haven't existed you can bet yourself that Muhammed would have just told another "man in the sky" lie to convince people into letting him rule them.
Religion is a tool like a hammer, you can use it for constructing or to slam people in the head with it.
>>69156150
Complete bullshit. But it's such a popular notion to dog humanity for "holding back progress" that it's almost impossible to explain it, or even begin to explain it. But here, I'll give you a jumping off point -- The term "Dark Ages" is a misnomer, as there was no "dark age". There are youtube videos explaining this. Good ones.
Here's a tidbit to whet your appetite: What do you suppose the Benedictines, the Dominicans, the Augustinians, and all the other monastic orders of Europe were DOING in the Middle Ages...?
>>69160942
I hate it too. I hate that popular culture is forcing a backslide of intellect and the rise of pseudo-history.
>>69157383
you sound like a christcuck who reads way too much propaganda. Anyone and everyone who said anything that went against the church was killed.
http://medieval.stormthecastle.com/essays/a-look-at-the-dark-ages-when-things-were-really-medieval.htm
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_XSavmyAFSUJ:brimley.eup.k12.mi.us/cms/lib/MI17000162/Centricity/Domain/77/middle%2520ages%2520causes%2520effects.pptx+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca
http://study.com/academy/lesson/the-dark-ages-definition-history-timeline.html
http://www.thefinertimes.com/Middle-Ages/the-dark-ages.html
>>69162609
>killing athiestfags spewing nonsense
>killing muslim invaders
>somehow bad
you googled all those links for nothing....
>>69156150
Fucking lol. Leftists are so ignorant of history. I'd expect that, given that they're still Leftists.
>>69162765
>killing athiestfags spewing nonsense
people were killed for saying the world was round and that it the sun didnt revolve around us and we werent the center of the universe.
Holy shit christcucks really are anti science and beyond retarded
>>69156150
Odd how largely Christian nations came to dominate the world isn't?
>>69162949
>flag
DUDE
>>69163066
WEED
>>69156150
>So uninformed about history he actually believes in the Christian dark ages myth.
And here I thought atheists actually valued knowledge.
Also...
>Getting your opinion from family guy cartoon.
Euthanasia is a good option for people like you
>>69163066
>get btfo
>oh wait i know il use a flag meme because i have no other arguments but if i use a meme it means i won
Enjoying your first week here?
>>69156150
>literally white civilization is the technological leaders of the world
I like how how the disrespect christianity and say fuck you to every other race than whites.
>>69156150
we also wouldn't have had a rallying point keeping the muzzies out of Yurope
aloha snackbar
>>69162949
>people were killed for saying the world was round
No they weren't.
BTW, this is the same Canada Cunt who shows up in all these types of threads
>>69163200
a FUCKING LEAF
>>69156150
>>69156150
The "dark ages" were the result of Roman civilizational corruption, not Christianity. Christianity actually was a major positive at the time. The Christian belief in objective reality separate from power is what makes science possible.
Why don't this many people ever bite when I dangle shit-tier bait? Is it because they've learned to be more suspicious of leafposters?
>>69156150
>Christian dark ages is the reason why no flying cars
>tfw when Orientals just chilled because they didn't want to get ahead in tech
>>69162609
>>69162949
>>69163200
>trying to take credit for the Heliocentric model, when Christians discovered it first, while atheistic scientist and the cucktholic church tried to hide it
Stupid Canadian Mongoloid
>>69156948
>if Christianity didn't exist we'd probably all be raped by Muslims
FTFY
>>69156150
>Implying Islam wouldn't have filled the niche
>Implying any other religious nonsense wouldn't either
>Implying Christianity was the worst thing that could have been popular
Lol and I'm an atheist fedora.
>>69163114
LMAO
>>69156150
> I hate family guy
No, you don't.
> but this is so true.
No, it isn't.
>>69156150
>scientific repression
What the fuck are they talking about? The time christians continued the progress of culture and science or the other time they did it.
>>69156150
*cough cough*
>>69163794
No one cares mario, go fix my toilet you lazy fatass
>I hate X but Xa is right on this one
>I like Z but X is right on this one
Any other layouts you want?
>>69156726
did ur gay sunday school teacher tell u that? fgt
>>69156150
Christain monks are the reason we know anything about science prior to the fall of Rome you massive faggot
>>69160541
Mongols scared the shit out of Muslims when it was all over and made them want to revert back to Sharia Law
>>69162949
>People were killed for saying the world was round.
That is actually false. Oldest meme in history.
No one ever believed that the world was flat, that assertion stems from a rumour made by Ludvig Holbergs play "Erasmus Montanus" from 1723. People knew the world was round due to being able to see ships outlook posts appearing in the horizont. I'm not denying that some idiots might have thought the world was flat, but the generel christian community did not.
>>69158308
Nimbly navigated
*tips hollow fangs*
>>69158405
>>fallacy
learn words before you say them
>yfw you realise it was the rise of Islam that caused the dearth in knowledge and cultural advances
>>69156150
People blame Christianity and I do as well (to a degree). This view is Eurocentric and racist as it views Europe as the only engine for technological change.
>>69162949
>people were killed for saying the world was round
Nope. Never happened.
>and that it the sun didnt revolve around us and we werent the center of the universe.
Nope. Never happened. Heliocentrism was one of the theories studied by Vatican-paid scientists, like...
Oh hey, Galileo, who was taking money from the Church to research Heliocentrism. However, he could not yet prove his theory, and was told not to publish his findings until they could be verified.
Except then he did it anyway, and savagely insulted the Pope (his boss) for no reason.
This was a crime, because it was a violation of contract, misuse of patron funds, and slander. He was then rightfully convicted in a secular court, and sentenced lightly. Galileo deserved what he got.
>>69164524
turning rhino cock into medicine doesn't qualify as technological change
>>69160541
The Mongols were literally the worst thing ever to happen to the Middle East and Europe. The Crimean Khanate was Tatar, and enslaved countless hundreds of thousands of Europeans over the course of centuries. They also destroyed centuries of accumulated culture and civilization in Baghdad--a destruction that the region has not fully recovered from to this day.
The Mongols are literally the most evil race to ever exist. If we kept the remaining ones in cages and bred them specifically so that we could torture a thousand of them to death every hour from now until the end of time, we would be morally obligated to do so.
If there is a hell, it is literally nothing but Mongols, because compared to even the most virtuous Mongol, no other villain in history can be considered anything except angelic.
Thankfully their failure of a race is now irrelevant, and has been properly subjugated by superior (any) peoples, but hopefully the Chinese will decide that their usefulness is at an end, and have them all buried alive and replaced with actual humans.
Yeah? and we got through that.
Now if we could stop islam from doing the same, we'll be able to get off this rock.
>>69164730
Didn't the Inquisition make the judgment against Galileo? That doesn't sound secular. And he was pegged for heresy, not for violation of contract, etc. Plus, he was obligated to abandon his thoughts on the subject.
>>69157324
We already were at their door. The hydrogen bombs just quickened their inevitable defeat.
>>69156150
When we got rid of Christianity, we replaced it with "social sciences" like sociology.
Thanks to you anti-religion fucknuts, we now have a definition of racism that means "only white men." A definition of sexism that means "only white men." People openly welcoming fucking sand nigger terrorists into the country and claiming anybody who says "Hey, wait a second. The FBI Director said we have no way of vetting these people" as "racist sexist islamaphobes."
I don't like Christianity but hey, better than Islam. Christianity doesn't say showing an ankle gets you killed.
Though the story of god killing people with bears because they made fun of a bald kid is pretty dumb.
>>69156150Religion doesn't cause war, it's just an excuse. If religion didn't exist horrible people would find a reason to kill each other, shit look at Glasgow on and old firm match day and youll see how retarded people get when it comes to tribalism.
And besides war advances technology
>>69166038
Kek, this is so sad because it's the actual truth.
>>69156150
Christianity preserved the science that would have been destroyed by the goths, you fag.
>>69158485
underrated
>>69166038
But I'm atheist and I find all of that to be total bullshit.
>>69156150
This is the opposite of true.
Without Christianity to preserve the knowledge of the ancients Europe today would look like the Middle East
Why?
Christian monks were the intellectuals who preserved knowledge and continued its development while everyone was busy dying until the Renaissance
And those who started Renaissance thought did it with the aid of Christian monks as scholars.
>>69156150
If Christianity didn't exist then the world would already by a global Caliphate by now.
>>69166831
See this I don't get. It's told that christians actually did forbid the study of ancient greece, which was the reason to why Dante fell into trouble. Am I totally off by this? Of course it later on became legitimize to do this, but that must then have been past 1400?
>>69167106
Nope. Islam wouldn't exist.
>>69167752
Are you retarded?
>>69167106
I'm afraid to say but, I think the world is going to be a global caliphate soon.
>>69167752
What do you base this on?
>>69156150
Only thing religion is good for is inventing Deus Vult
>>69167918
>>69168148
It did influence Islam in a lot of aspects. Plus the crusades would still have happened, but not as a religious war. Kind of as it happened with Rome.
>>69156150
okay so obviously family guy exaggerated this, but if you think we wouldnt be at least a few hundred years ahead of where we are if it werent for the dark ages then you are vastly underestimating how oppressive the church was to science/technology etc
I suggest you get your history knowledge from books and actual sources instead of a cartoon
>>69158485
15% improvement over nontreatment in many cases. Don't knock the placebo effect.
>>69156150
So the dark ages of Christianity held back scientific progress in the middle east and China, you dumb nigger?
>>69162949
The bible says the world is round.
>>69169322
>Half the world has their growth stunted.
>Nothing at all was lost because the other half was not stunted.
>>69168642
Except it wasnt oppressive at all
>>69169579
It clearly say the world has corners.
>LOL IT'S A METAPHOR BECAUSE I SAID SO
>>69169579
>>69170012
Got any sources?
>>69170012
What verse?
>>69170526
>>69171096
http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/Isaiah/11/12
http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/Revelation/7/1
There's more, but that's on the first link on Google you lazy fucks.
>>69156150
The christian 'dark' ages were responsible for the first memorable universities. As well as a time of great architectural advances.
>Pic related
Also responsible for great advances in agriculture, language (Norman English for example) and entertainment.
The earily and middle ages were cultural and practical science work. If Christianity did /not/ exist, we would still be shattered tribal monkeys. Good example being Africa or Scandinavia post-viking era in the teensy time before they took in Christianity they were still infighting.
Now get the fuck off my board.
>>69171472
>makes a point
>bitches when he needs to prove those points
Don't be a baby.
>>69156150
>this is a reality where christianity never existed
>Islam took over the world and everyone is a muslim
>>69171472
Why would I want to do your work? You're the retard who's making a historical claim without adding a source.
>Duur Putin is a cyborg and Josef Stalin was actually a woman. Just google it.
Fucking retard.
>>69171472
People STILL say "ends" and "corners" when referring to the earth, you dense faggot
Isa 40:22 describes the earth as round back when science had no fucking idea what was going on
Criticizing the Bible is fine, but you don't need to be deceptive about it
>>69156150
Western world wouldn't have survived the dark ages without Christianity.
The fall of Rome is what caused the dark ages, not Christianity. But, of course, liberals are ignorant and don't realize this.
>>69172315
Islam cannot exist without Christianity.
>>69173640
You mean Judaism.
If you believe their bullshit, then you're correct.
Unfortunately, Mohammed was a goon who stumbled upon an easy scam and probably would've used any prevailing belief or social idea to get power
>>69156818
>Bernini and Michelangelo, the 2 greatest sculptors of all time were devout Catholic
Wew, lad
>>69156150
Atheist here, not a Christfag, but don't go around blaming religion, blame the people.
If not Christianity, then whites would have been worshipping their pagan gods or some other shit, humans will always find something to fill the holes in our hearts.
Likewise, don't blame Islam for shit, just blame the Mudslimes themselves.
>>69156150
>muh future and shit
>uses a 1955 alfa romeo
>>69156150
>mfw this low quality bait thread got 150 responses
>>69156150
"Christian dark ages" had nothing to do with Christianity - had everything to do with Rome allowing too many people to become Romans
Build the wall
>>69156150
Or religion period.
It was used for a very long time to explain things we could not. So me made up stories and legends, and looked to the heavens for answers.
We never could make heads or tails of existence and why things are the way they are. Instead we made something that explained it in the best way we knew, and at the same time brought about kinship between common man, a lot of times laid down loose "laws" (thou shalt not...), and it usually made people act more kindly to another.
Now it's corrupted and is something that refuses to change. It's word is law and there's no other explanation.
It's dying in today's modern world and we may see religion on its last leg in the next century or so. If it makes us more rational and can answer life's big secrets, I'm all for it.
>>69173504
The church was responsible for the dark ages christcuck
Would never happen. The dark ages were the necessary interim between the fall of Rome and the birth of the Renaissance.
We are past due for another dark age, I think.
>>69162765
kill urself fag
>>69162949
> people were killed for saying the world was round and that it the sun didnt revolve around us and we werent the center of the universe
Name one person.
>>69175756
The church was also responsible for the first universities Floomagfag
>>69156150
South park is not only 1000x time better than Family Guy on a comedic level, but it is also 1000x more intelligent.
Remember when Cartman travels to an all Atheist future and there are 3 different groups of Atheists at war over the proper name they should be called?
The "dark ages" could only be accurately described as lasting a few centuries, and were a european regional condition, not a global one.
They were also caused by the collapse of the roman empire, which itself was christian at the time.
But more importantly, the catholic church was essentially the only bastion of learning and intellectualism for over a thousand years. Monks transcribed countless works of both greek and roman antiquity and ancient writings and stories of western and northern europe. Modern musical theory was invented by catholic singers. The architectural rebirth of eruope was funded by the church, as was to a great degree, much of the most famous works of art produced during the Renaissance. It was men who worked for the church who invented the framework for modern physics, genetics, and chemistry.
Yes, the catholic church did a lot of bad. Most of the crusades after the first were fairly blatant attempts to gain land and wealth for individuals. Additionally, the acceptance of indulgences is secularly indefensible and theologically heretical, especially considering how it stems from salvation through works, rather than grace. But overall christianity was essentially the basis for the fruits of intellectualism that allow for our quality of life today.
Go fuck yourself you Zionist that openly hate Christianity
>>69167725
Dante got into trouble because he was a prominent member of a political faction that lost their bid for power in Florence and tried multiple times to regain control, including supporting controversial leaders, ultimately alienating himself from even his own allies.
His study and writings had essentially nothing to do with his troubled life. In fact, his most famous work was largely unknown until long after his death.
>>69156150
>Imagine if we didn't have Christianity around to ruin all of our progress in the fields of science
Exactly how do you figure that Christianity slowed progress exactly?
If Christianity didn't exist there would be no united states, no enlightenment, no united kingdom no Ireland nearly all of the documents predate the fall of Rome would have been lost to us,, Europe would be today as Africa is scattered tribes because there would have been no unification under Catholicism.
The world would not simply be similar but have better technology it would be completely unrecognizable and probably much more primitive.
>>69156618
Some of that is wrong.
Islamic countries held on to technology.
>>69158485
Providing medicine in leper colonies and emergency treatment to fallen soldiers in warzones is a placebo?
>dark ages
You mean the era when people started becoming atheists and stopped advancing science because they were too busy saying how smart they were for trying to be different?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y&ab_channel=TinShipProductions
>>69156150
The thing that pisses me off about Family Guy is that Seth acts like it's all Christianity's fault. There were other religions that held back progress as well, hell almost all religions do this to one degree or another.
