What makes a perfect society?
What contributes to fact that sparsely populated northern countries manage to top so many charts?
>>69016279
Protestantism.
>>69018020
Elaborate?
There indeed seems to be some sort of correlation.
Another interesting chart with similar correlation.
>>69016279
Ethnic homogeneity.
Bump.
>>69020444
We've already sorted this out. Many Sub-Saharan African countries are ethnically more homogeneous than some European countries.
>>69021123
But aren't their national borders based on old colonial land claims as opposed to historical boundaries?
>>69021249
If it wasn't for that, would SS-African countries be better than the Nordic countries?
>>69022004
Ethiopia is probably the only SS-African country untouched from colonialism (I guess you can call the horn sub Saharan), but the nation still has multiple ethnic groups within it.
Bump.
>>69022850
Are you saying there are no multiple European ethnic groups within European countries?
Bump :3
>>69021123
White homogeneity
>>69023124
I'm saying they're similar enough to where there aren't as many problems, especially in Scandinavia.
>>69016279
Small Population, homogenous, doesn't get involved in many conflicts, doesn't have to invest in military or defence. However these societies are far from perfect, especially when considering the social leftism, feminism, etc.
And who knows what the future holds for those countries.
>>69024539
>Small Population, homogenous, doesn't get involved in many conflicts, doesn't have to invest in military or defence.
So Andorra. Basically a small touristic country with barely any political or religious involvement, formed mostly by whites from periferal countries.
>>69024256
Not that either. Many Eastern European countries are close to 100% white, yet this kind of division exists.
What about the high suicide rate in these countries? Especially Finland and Iceland. It doesn't make sense how these countries have higher suicide rates than many third world countries
>>69025453
I don't know about suicide rates, but northern countries in general are happy places according to various surveys.
>>69025217
Are you seriously being this retarded?
Go back in time, lose the winter war, come back and find this chart again.
>>69025711
Depends on how you define happiness.
These studies are made from factors like security, freedom, equality etc. they don't consider the suicide rate, etc.
>>69025217
That's called communism.
>>69025453
Shitty weather maybe? Also in 3rd world countries people are to busy fighting for 'survival' to kill themselves, not even kidding.
>>69016279
Finland is like a look into the past as you have very few immigrants
>>69016279
Impulse control
>>69025217
>eastern european
>white
Well there's your problem.
The slavic lands were occupied by the golden horde, the mongols. They are 80% white at best, sometimes 55%.
>>69026224
>They are 80% white at best, sometimes 55%.
I'm pretty sure that's a /pol/ meme
>>69025711
http://gamapserver.who.int/mapLibrary/Files/Maps/Global_AS_suicide_rates_bothsexes_2012.png?ua=1
Here it shows the suicide rate. Notice how even the middle east has fewer suicide than Scandinavia (wtf) and mexico, philippines, southern African countries, Peru, Venezuela and Italy have lower suicide rates than Scandinavia. It's interesting how many of these countries are conservative countries
>>69026323
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus'
>>69026323
No, that's a kike divide and conquer meme.
Only newfriends and shills perpetuate it on /pol/
>>69025217
Is that tiny speck in the north-east of England below the European average?
>>69016279
Up until recently, no foreigners, minimal jews, communitarian and nationalist ideas and at least in Norway, very pious christianity.
>>69026540
>muh 100% white slavic nation
>>69026540
>tfw this is considered white
>>69016279
>boasting high promiscuity rating
Why?
>>69026224
Well, that can't really be the reason either, since the Siberian component is also present in Fennoscandia to varying degrees.
>>69026891
>Lithuania
>slavic
Educate yourself Shlomo.
See pic regarding my previous statement you tried to derail from.
>>69016279
No:niggers, no Muslims, no Jews, no gypsies
Wooops seems like I've excluded myself... you tricked me OP. :(
>>69016279
>sparsely populated
That is itself a contributing factor.
>>69027423
Finland has a huge Scandinavian admixture
>>69027470
I never said Lithuania was slavic. I wasn't even referring to you. The baltic state aren't slavic.
>>69027999
My point was that Eastern component is more present in Fennoscandia than in Eastern Europe.
>>69016279
You're just cherry picking things that make Finland look good
>>69027667
Memes aside, what is the prevalence of gypsies in Romania?
Is it close to 10%?
>>69025879
Tell me, what was Eastern Europe like before the USSR?
>>69028421
"no"
>>69028777
The Baltics were very much like Finland. That is why it is such a popular example of how the commies set us half a century back.
Sigh, I wish we had the Karelian isthmus and the impassable northern forests and a metric tonne of sisu when the reds rolled in.
We rolled over and gave up instead and now they use that to talk shit how we "volunteered" to join their glorious union of backward bullshit.
>>69027470
So what exactly is the "Slavic haplogroup"?
Are Norwegians Slavs?
>>69026530
I know they were invaded by the mongols, I was talking about the "not white" meme
>>69029824
>Eupedia
I'd be willing to bet Norway has the least slavic influence of any country in the Scandinavian peninsula, this makes no historical or geographic sense.
>>69029730
That's pretty sad desu. I've always thought we have a special kind of kinship with Baltics. Would prolly stand for an union of some kind if it wasn't for commies devastating your countries'
>>69030045
That's why I put "Slavic haplogroup" in quotation marks. Haplogroups tell very little about actual autosomal DNA and admixtures after all.
>>69029993
The ironic thing behind all this memeing is that Lithuanians are pretty much the whitest, at least according to this study >>69027423
>>69029824
Why are you ignoring the commas?
>Slavic, Kurgan, Aryan
Have you considered that in the case of Norway the haplo group might represent one of the other two?
In the end the Slavic and the Germanic peoples are both Indo-European.
>>69016279
Race
>>69016279
>What makes a perfect society?
>Ethnic homogeneity
>Strong conservative Christian values
>Cold weather
>Low population density
>>69016279
Oil wealth. That's what works for Norway, as I understand things. Why doesn't every country just reduce their population to 5 million (homogeneous ethnic background), and have lots of oil? Then all countries could be happy. Simple.
>>69018505
>>69017738
He's shitposting
>>69032176
What are the attributes of a race that makes society truly altruistic?
>>69029730
False, you are Extremely different, Finns are around 30% Scandinavian.
>>69033210
DNA and Genes.
>>69032640
Didn't work for Angola.
>>69034191
>Finns are around 30% Scandinavian
What are you even talking about? Or are you just pretending to be le stupid ameritard? Swedes have more Finnish admixture than we have Swedish admixture.
Fennoswedes are 40% Scandinavian on average according to this study though
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1783413
>>69034670
>Anonymous (ID: 19PHak6Z)
original finns are mongoloids, swedes are around 40% scandi with rest being junk non scandi, finns are 25+ Swedish, original finns are no different than sami, you can hate swedes all you want, this isn't threatening your future.
>>69034910
25+% scandi*
>>69034321
Yes, comparing a former Portuguese colony with no ethnic homogeneity and all of 30 years of independence (most of which spent sorting out a civil war) to Norway is certainly an apples to apples comparison. Retard.
>>69034910
>original finns are mongoloids, swedes are around 40% scandi with rest being junk non scandi, finns are 25+ Swedish, original finns are no different than sami, you can hate swedes all you want, this isn't threatening your future.
Lmao
>>69034670
N1c (59%), I1a (28%), R1a (5%) and R1b (3.5%).[37] Haplogroup N1c, which is found mainly in a few countries in Europe (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Russia), is a subgroup of the haplogroup N (Y-DNA)
>>69034670
28% scandi
TFW scandinavian bastards have everything better than you
>didn't even mention gigabit internet everywhere
Perhaps because the lower the population in your country, the easier it is to provide for things like the Nordic countries do.
>>69036162
Venezuela/Population
30.41 million (2013)
most oil in the world.
Sweden/Population
9.593 million (2013)
it's only race.
>>69036339
Agricultural land (sq. km) in Venezuela 218600.0 213950.0 [+]
Agricultural land (% of land area) in Venezuela 24.8 24.3 [+]
Arable land (hectares) in Venezuela 2832000.0 2595000.0
Agricultural land (sq. km) in Sweden 34130.0 31530.0 [+]
Agricultural land (% of land area) in Sweden 8.3 7.7 [+]
Arable land (hectares) in Sweden 2841000.0 2703000.0 [+]
Arable land (hectares per person) in Sweden 0.3 0.3
>>69020706
Average as fuck.
>>69025971
We think the same when looking at Estonia.
>>69036535
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>>69036621
Estonia is literally post-commie Finland
>>69016279
A strong leader in a homogeneous society.
>>69036339
Sweden and Venezuela is a very strange comparison. I'm not sure what you're hoping to prove there.
I'm going to go out on a limb and wager that sweden's relative peace, location, and generally better government related to things like running schools, street maintenance, etc are much better than venezuala, which is not known as a paradigm of stability.
>>69034910
Read the discussion we had starting from this post: >>69027545
Take particular note of what I said (erzh3deD).
>>69037413
/__\
>>69037091
>I'm going to go out on a limb and wager that sweden's relative peace, location, and generally better government related to things like running schools, street maintenance, etc are much better than venezuala,
All of those things, except the location, are a direct result of having a more well-informed, well educated and overall more intelligent population. In fact, I'd actually go so far as to claim that Venezuela's location is actually, atleast in an agricultural and overall natural-resource sense (which was incredibly important during the industrial revolution), more favorable than Sweden's.
Your argumentation pisses me off, because it is the standard leftist belief that some countries just "have it" without having "earned it" , when others don't, when, in fact, the beforementioned countries actually have earned their status and well-being.
>>69016279
Berlin? It's called little Istanbul in Turkey, not kidding. Make that test in my hometown and you'll get a very different result.
Same goes for some other countries.
>>69016279
i dropped my debit card on a beach once and an elderly woman found it, looked up my name and found my number called me personally and said she found it on a beach and met up with me a few hours later to hand it to me.
>>69038212
I've lost my wallet too in the most immigrant infested part of Helsinki
Got it back though
>>69037931
>Your argumentation pisses me off, because it is the standard leftist belief that some countries just "have it" without having "earned it"
No, you're just misinterpreting what I'm saying.
Venezuela may have an advantage in things like arable land and oil, but overall I'd say Sweden is in a prime location historically.
Due to being across the baltic sea, you lot were able to avoid many wars that engulfed the continent, which is ideal. However, you're still close enough to Europe to reap the benefits of things like the Enligtenment, which allowed you to set up schools and have an educated population, while also eventually reaping the benefits of democratic governments.
Being surrounded by NATO members also allows a period of uninterrupted peace since 1945 while allowing you to spend less time and effort on military concerns.
I'm not saying Scandi countries didn't earn what they have, but overall countries that bought into the enlightenment ideals tend to be much better places in the modern world.
>>69036998
Nice picture... for ants!!
>>69039335
Fair enough, you make some points which I didn't consider.
However,
>Due to being across the baltic sea, you lot were able to avoid many wars that engulfed the continent, which is ideal. However, you're still close enough to Europe to reap the benefits of things like the Enligtenment, which allowed you to set up schools and have an educated population, while also eventually reaping the benefits of democratic governments.
This is true, although you have to specify which wars you are talking about. Sweden participated in almost every major conflict in Europe since the early 1800s. In regards to the last of the two world wars, Sweden only survived the onslaught of Nazi Germany because we actually worked together with them, selling iron to them and allowing them to use our railways for troop transportation (we were actually bombed by the British, but only our mines). Venezuela became colonized by Spain in the early 1500s, and the Enlightenment should've reached them aswell, if only in some small part. However, experience should, as our chinese friend says, be passed downwards and there is nothing stopping post-colonial Venezuela from embracing those same ideals.
>Being surrounded by NATO members also allows a period of uninterrupted peace since 1945 while allowing you to spend less time and effort on military concerns.
Sweden actually spend alot of money on the military industry, we do however do so in the form of private companies exporting weapons. The NATO-thing can be discussed (the ruskies don't seem to happy about it), but I'll admit that it might be a positive thing. But then it can be argued that Venezuela is situated far, far away from any recent major conlict, and thus should prosper anyway.
>>69036162
Nah, lower population only enables to possibility to adapt faster.
>>69040985
> Sweden participated in almost every major conflict in Europe since the early 1800s
I of course mean before the early 1800s.
>>69023124
No. But European borders have been drawn with respect to population divisions.
>>69032176
>>69034216
Any proof?
>>69041693
>>69016279
Big American cities are only like 25-50% white
>>69041763
Where's that from?
>>69041987
Bump :3
Bump :3
Bamp :3
Punp :3
>>69039335
Venezuela is next to the biggest markets in the world, mainly the USA also is open to China the next biggest, then India.
Only race matters, there is absolutely nothing special except inferiority in my comparison.
Main export partners
United States 34.6%
India 15.1%
China 12.9%
>>69016279
>What makes a perfect society?
Women.
It's always Women.
>>69048026
Main exports of Venezuela.
>>69048140
Race, only.
am I free to have the will to try my beliefs? I will obey all the laws prior to Marxist laws of anti-purity, I will pay all the foreign races what ever price.
>>69016279
>prison population per capita
>no USA
what the fuck
where is the suicide graph?
>>69048658
>Race, only.
Race is obviously, without a doubt, a huge factor, but it would be just stupid to believe it's the only one. These things are more complicated than you think.
>>69048931
Race only, this is my platform, you can keep all your complications, I will stay with Race only.
>>69049437
As I said, race/ethnicity is a huge factor, but it's literally impossible that it would be the only one.
It's just stupid and you're an idiot if you don't understand why.
