State of Israel vs Palestine/Islamic middle-east
Whom do you support and why?
Being neutral is not an answer.
I know it's a tough one for /pol.
>>68876332
Palestine
Every one with balls will defend themselfs and their people from ethnic cleansing. Their land is getting stolen.
Aslo, Kebabs are the best Kike removals.
Israel:
>Civilized
>Removes kebab daily
>Pro-American
>Nationalistic and patriotic
>Values are very close to the western ones
Palestine and mudslimes:
>absolutely barbaric and savage
>no culture
>medieval values and morals
How am I wrong?
>>68876527
But why should I feel bad for barbaric people with no culture?
>>68876332
Israel, of course. Israeli Jews are right-wing and support Trump. Donald himself said that Israel is his greatest ally and he will not let fucking lefti gayropeans destroy it. On the over hand, "palestine" isn't even a thing. It's just another hoax from antisemites trying to steal Holy Land from Jews.
>>68876332
They're both equally subhuman and should be nuked.
Gas the Arabs
>>68876332
I would rather we get rid of both of them.
Fuck the Middle East in general. First I would remove Kebab, then Jew.
Israel. Fuck Muslims.
>>68876624
No culture?
They have one of the richest cultures in the world, their food is awesome and have beautiful architecture. Their culture is like a Assyrian and Iranian roots mixed, I love it.
Did you ever went to the M.E.?
Israel.
then US wouldn't need to give them aid anymore and no one has any basis to show them any concern other than "MUH 6 GORRILION"
they're also BETTER than muslims FOR SURE
>Implying you have to support either.
>>68876910
Why would you care about US money?
>Being neutral is not an answer.
Good thing I hate both of them then.
Oh look it's this thread again.
>>68876882
Yeah, well, India and China have heritage too.
We are discussing modern domestic culture here, ranging from morals and values to pop-culture products.
>>68877135
What, it disturbs your safe-space?
if the israelis win they are just gonna have the arab men breed their women.
israeli jews aren't browner than western jews because its hotter over there.
so supporting either basically means the destruction of jews.
>>68876332
Move all the Arabs to Jordan, the 1923 partition of Palestine into an Arab East Palestine (Jordan) and a Jewish East Palestine (Israel) seperated by a natural border, the Jordan River, is the only solution that can work.
Once seperated, and having the Arabs rules under the tight fist of a non-salafi King, the low level war ends because there are no longer Muslims loving next to Jews.
Same solution can then be applied to Europe and the rest of the world. Remove all Muslims back to Islam lands, and usher in a new era of world peace.
>>68877165
>We are discussing modern domestic culture here, ranging from morals and values to pop-culture products.
Do you really think Western '''''Values''''' are good for the world?
>>68876332
What's there to discuss? Palestine is on its death bed.
>>68877430
Conservative ones - yes.
Israel duuuhhh
I would support Israel if all israelis abandoned their jewishness and became like Bobby Fischer and started to fight NWO.
Right now I don't support any of them.
I'm anti- Hamas and anti- Mossad
Islamic middle east. I literally have zero problem with muslims as long as they don't come to my land. The jew will always be scheming to subvert and destroy white nations.
Oh look another false choice JIDF thread. Gotta be at least 10 of these a day now.
>Palestine/the Islamic Middle East
Lol, kill your self. Obvious shill is obvious.
Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem.
>>68877754
Since when pol is a safe space?
Different opinion is shilling to you?
Neutral, they have to work it out.
>>68877865
Because we have these threads hourly. If you don't know why /pol//the far right hates Israel you simply need to lurk more.
>>68878050
We have Trump threads hourly. We have many other threads hourly. Stop crying, I'm interested in what different people think.
>>68876527
>Aslo, Kebabs are the best Kike removals.
israel I spent my tax money to develop there nation and I'll rather have the jews own my money and produce shit then muslims ruining everything with their shitty religion.
>being neutral is not an answer
But what about the Swiss?
We should just let them destroy eachother
>>68876566
you're not wrong we just don't like Jews
But I'd like a qt Israeli girl
>>68876332
I'm on the side of Israel because in the event where muslims actually take over the state of Israel, this happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
If the jews are destroyed, they'll be taking us with them.
>>68878116
>hurrr hey guys let me present a completely false choice between one non-white country and another on a board that is anti-Semitic yeah we just had the exact same thread 30 minutes ago but how dare you think I'm some kind of shill when the Israeli government has been paying shills on the Internet since 2003.
Kills yourself.
There is literally no reason to support Israel.
>>68878328
Yeah man, who the hell cares about a little cold nuclear fucking winter caused by the lil' old samson option.
>>68877754
> JIDF
That was cock hole tier. Some retards still believe that there are secret Jews talking shit on /pol. Oh my, this is hilarious.
>>68877165
Kinda hard to have modern culture when you've been fighting a war of survival against a violent colonization and ethnic cleansing.
Even in the 20s and 30s Palestine was a hot bed of trade and culture in the region not some "savage warzone".
>>68876332
Israel.
There are fewer of them and they don't breed as fast. The only thing whites can't compete with subhumans in is breeding.
The Israelis have a right to defend against attack. The Palestinians have a right to peacefully pursue their own state, but they'll have to agree to live peacefully side by side with the Israelis to get to that result, not continue to pledge to destroy them.
Why is this difficult to understand? It's not "taking sides" to recognize the benefits of civilized behavior.
>>68878943
>Even in the 20s and 30s Palestine was a hot bed of trade and culture in the region not some "savage warzone".
Pity the Muslims and Jews drove out almost all the Christians who were responsible for that.
>>68878943
Can you mention one muslim country to me which has it
>>68879083
>Why is this difficult to understand?
Because it only applies as a valid argument if you deliberately leave out the first half of the story leaving out thag whole little violent colonization and ethnic cleansing part on the side of the Zionist against the native Palestinians Muslims Christians and even Jews which opposed their colonization.
The argument applies quite accurately to the Palestinians considering it is their homeland.
>>68876332
Move every Palestinian to Brazil, three birds one stone
>>68879184
Christians were less than 10% of the population at that time most of which were driven out by Zionist colonization
that region should be called the land of the blood...both sides r killing all the time...and declare it the Special Killing Area
>>68879233
Afghanistan had a very rich culture before the Soviet invasion and that was in the 70s.
There aren't really any left that aren't either Western puppets selected for their radical Insanity but controllability (think Saudis and the other Wahhabi gulf states) or destroyed nations like Libya and Syria who were secular nations and fairly peaceful. And you have the example of Iran which exist today as a direct response to decades of a brutal puppet regime that took over thanks to operation Ajax.
We simply don't know exactly what the ME would look like if it wasn't fucked with as hard as it was but if it kept its track from what it was going towards in the 1910s 20s and 30s it would be significantly better than it is today.
Read some primary time period sources on the region if you want to get a decent understanding instead of the propaganda that is spewed today because of the old truism "the winner writes history"
>>68876332
>Being neutral is not an answer.
pls
>>68876882
""""culture"""""
>>68876332
Both should die.
If it wasn't for Israel Europe wouldn't be swimming in Muslims. It is Israels destabilisation of the Middle East for power that drives the Muslim invasion.
Better to face and control upfront Muslim barbarity than have our cups poisoned by deceitful Jews.
ISRAEL ALL THE WAY EVERY DAY
>>68879356
Your point of view may be valid, depending upon where you draw the line before which history should not be considered.
In other words, "It all started when he hit me back" is not a valid view of the conflict.
>>68876332
Both must get the fuck out of Holy Land, as they spilled the blood there and are cursed forever for this.
It`s the answer and it`s neutral.
>>68878897
You think you are so secret, retard?
>>68879438
false
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus
If you really care about the Christians in Israel, you should be happy that the Jews are controlling Israel and not the muslims.
Look at the condition of the Christians in the countries around Israel.
>>68876332
Neither, give the land to Italy, as an Inheritance from the Roman Empire.
>>68876332
Of course Israel
>>68880104
>the store called "Hitler"
okay, they bought me
>>68876527
Kek...
>>68876624
culutre is hard to develop when you are walled in , everything is getting bombed and jews only let you have burgers and some creates of fruits once a year for propaganda ops and tons of fucking rice for le statistics and then some terrorists decked in U.S. weapons complains about the butterknife you are left to defend yourself with and carpet bombs another school because allegedly some weeks before someone found and removed unusable ammunition shells some sellout to the jews 'hid' there in plain sight in a school that keeps regularly being checked.
>>68880439
European Zionist colonizers have zero legitimate claim to the region no matter how far back you go and as you said
>The Palestinians have a right to peacefully pursue their own state, but they'll have to agree to live peacefully side by side with the Israelis to get to that result, not continue to pledge to destroy them.
Would apply 100% to the Zionist immigrants 100 years ago but that isn't what happened. Theh got butt mad that the British didn't give them as much as they wanted and started outright ethnically cleansing the local population to the tune of 2/3rds of the local population. The neighboring Arab states intervened and we are taught today that "Israel a gud boi dindu nuffin just trying to take this land given to them.by G-d in this book they wrote".
The worst part about this whole situation and why it is extremely relevant to Americans is because Zionist ideologues have been subverting our nation for over 100 years for this agenda.
So it isn't just about " muh poor shitskins" it is about taking our own nation back from a third column that has no qualms of using our sons and daughters blood for their holy wars.
Book and pic related pic being related because this was the common sentiment amongst state department officials who were ignored by various Presidents.
http://www.amazon.com/Against-Our-Better-Judgment-History/dp/149591092X
>>68876332
38th parallel north
>>68876882
>everyone in the middle east is a palestinian
"no"
>>68876332
Can we just nuke them both?
Jews are scumbags
Mudslimes are extremists
>>68876332
>>68876332
Dream scenario for me would be: Israel wins. They occupy all the Middle East. All the kikes move to Israel to develop their nation and leave the west alone (financially and politically) except for trading and sharing I+D.
>>68881037
>culutre is hard to develop when you are walled in
Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia and Yemen
are not walled in.
>>68880642
I find it funny that you linked an article going extensively over the Zionist equivalent of "the final solution" and since declassified documents confirming it's existence necessitating a rewriting of conventional history aka Zionist propaganda.
>>68881394
The article presents the narrative of both sides.
>>68881623
And only one side brings forth said declassified documentation that clearly shows that the Zionist leadership was in secret pushing for an expulsion of arabs which resulted in the Exodus.
It takes a special kind of kike to present evidence that directly contradicts their claim in "support" of their claim and hen deny this once someone takes the time to read it
>>68877135
it's... Jewdude!!
>>68881100
>European Zionist colonizers
Why were (genealogical, not just designated by religion) Jews in Europe? The Roman conquest (and subsequent destruction) scattered them, but the Islamic conquest of the M.E. drove them to Europe.
I personally advocate American neutrality, so that the two factions can work it out between themselves, but I prefer civilization to barbarism, and that necessitates a preference, at least at the current point in time, for one group's actions.
>>68881761
>>68881623
It's like when I hear a Zionist hack try and say the 67 war was anything but an aggressive land grab despite half a dozen of the top leadership who planned and executed said land grab openly admitting that that is what it was and the narrative of "preemptive strike for defense" was their propaganda to sell to the public only after the war was over. Men that include former prime ministers and when presented with this proof they just ignore it a shit fling insults
>>68877135
It really doesn't matter who /pol/ supports. Eventually palestine won't exist. The elite of the world want israel to stick around, and if israel hasn't been btfo by now, it's not gonna happen by Hamas' hand.
>>68876332
what logical fallacy is it when you present an issue as black and white? JIDF pls go.
>>68881967
>but I prefer civilization to barbarism,
The region of Palestine was civilized before the rise of violent opposition to a colonizing force anon.
It would be like saying that Americans are violent savages in regards to the movie Red Dawn. They're doing what every single human civilization has ever done when faced with violent colonization. They fight back.
Well except modern Europeans.
>[current year]
>not buying your clothes at Hitler's 2
>>68882047
Fixed
>>68881988
>the 67 war was anything but an aggressive land grab
The arabian neighbors were preparing for a war. What would you have done? Just wait and die?
BTW "land grab" is hillarious, considering that Israel gave back so much land. And in return they got.. what? Some arabs chimping out and trying to kill them for no fucking reason.
I reapeat:
You CAN be arab/muslim in Israel. No problem. It's a laicisitc state and modern democracy. Can you be jewish in Gaza? Lel.
>>68882325
>>68882047
My fucking sides
>>68876332
I support the joos on this one.
>>68882495
>The arabian neighbors were preparing for a war
Again the leadership of Israel has since admitted that this was propaganda made post hoc to legitimize their land grab anon.
>Can you be jewish in Gaza? Lel.
Jews and Christians live in Gaza and Jews and Christians lived in Palestine before colonization
>>68881988
>aggressive land grab
are a BDS supporter by any chance?
>>68882741
>Jews and Christians live in Gaza
oh okay, i was about to take you seriously for once
>>68882741
To hammer this point home
In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said this: “I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.”
On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”
On 4 April 1972, General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin’s predecessor as chief of staff, was quoted in Ma’ariv as follows: “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Days War, and we had never thought of such a possibility.”
In the same Israeli newspaper on the same day, General Ezer Weizmann, Chief of Operations during the war and a nephew of Chaim Weizmann, was quoted as saying: “There was never any danger of annihilation. This hypothesis has never been considered in any serious meeting.”
In the spring of 1972, General Matetiyahu Peled, Chief of Logistical Command during the war and one of 12 members of Israel’s General Staff, addressed a political literary club in Tel Aviv. He said: “The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war.”
In a radio debate Peled also said: “Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel.” He added that “Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war.”
1/2
>>68876332
Israel. We can send all the jewish people there. It's like Hitler's Madagascar
>>68881761
In the 1980s Israel and United Kingdom opened up part of their archives for investigation by historians. This favored a more critical and factual analysis of the 1948 events. As a result more detailed and comprehensive description of the Palestinian exodus was published, notably Morris' The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem.[5] Morris distinguishes four waves of refugees, the second, third and fourth of them coinciding with Israeli military offensives, when Arab Palestinians fled the fighting, were frightened away, or were expelled.
A document produced by the Israeli Defence Forces Intelligence Service entitled "The Emigration of the Arabs of Palestine in the Period 1/12/1947 – 1/6/1948" was dated 30 June 1948 and became widely known around 1985.
The document details 11 factors which caused the exodus, and lists them "in order of importance":
4.Orders and decrees by Arab institutions and gangs [irregulars].
Personally I think they should have deport them all.
>>68882741
>Again the leadership of Israel has since admitted that this was propaganda made post hoc to legitimize their land grab anon.
The "Stürmer" is not a valid source anymore, anon..
BTW how could destroy Isreal those tanks and aricrafts at the border? Oh right, they were just out for lunch, having some fun and everything.. Than the BAD BAD jews came and destroyed the tanks. I just wonder why they didn't attack the land then? It's almost as if they just wanted to not get killed, funny conincidence..
How is this even a question. Hating on the jews is literally a fucking meme. The mudslimes are a legitimate threat to civilization as we know it.
>>68882741
>>68882870
In the same programme General Chaim Herzog (former Director of Military Intelligence, future Israeli Ambassador to the UN and President of his state) said: “There was no danger of annihilation. Neither Israeli headquarters nor the Pentagon – as the memoirs of President Johnson proved – believed in this danger.”
On 3 June 1972 Peled was even more explicit in an article of his own for Le Monde. He wrote: “All those stories about the huge danger we were facing because of our small territorial size, an argument expounded once the war was over, have never been considered in our calculations. While we proceeded towards the full mobilisation of our forces, no person in his right mind could believe that all this force was necessary to our ‘defence’ against the Egyptian threat. This force was to crush once and for all the Egyptians at the military level and their Soviet masters at the political level. To pretend that the Egyptian forces concentrated on our borders were capable of threatening Israel’s existence does not only insult the intelligence of any person capable of analysing this kind of situation, but is primarily an insult to the Israeli army.”
>>68882746
No it is quite literally what your nations heads of State planned out.
Id have to say I would support Israel.
Its my understanding that western Jews (oy vey) are a different beast altogether than actual Jews living in Israel. Now my only source of knowledge on this issue is that Israelis that post here with us, but they seem pretty based for the most part so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
Hopefully its not all part of the plan and I'm getting shoahed here...
>>68882847
.2% are Christian less than that is Jewish
>>68882997
>The "Stürmer" is not a valid source anymore, anon..
Again it is direct from the horse's mouth on Israeli TV radio and newsprint
>>68881988
On May 22, 1967, Egypt's President Gamal Nasser announced the closure of the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping. According to international law the Straits of Tiran were an international waterway and Egypt had no right to block Israeli ships from travelling through them, though Egypt disputed this. Before this incident Israel made it unambiguously clear that closing the Straits of Tiran would be seen as a casus belli.
>>68883172
as far as i know not a single jew lives in gaza after the disengagement from gaza
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza
>In December 2006, news reports indicated that a number of Palestinians were leaving the Gaza Strip, due to political disorder and "economic pressure" there. In January 2007, fighting continued between Hamas and Fatah, without any progress towards resolution or reconciliation. Fighting spread to several points in the Gaza Strip with both factions attacking each other. In response to constant attacks by rocket fire from the Gaza Strip, Israel launched an airstrike which destroyed a building used by Hamas. In June 2007 the Fatah–Hamas conflict reached its height and Hamas took control over the Gaza Strip.
tl;dr: gaza became a shithole right after the disengagement
>>68882989
>Numerous recent historians, particularly since the 1980s, now dismiss the claim as devoid of evidence,[22] Morris, with others of the New Historians school, concur that Arab instigation was not the major cause of the refugees' flight.[23] As regards the overall exodus, they state that the major cause of Palestinian flight was instead military actions by the Israeli Defence Force and fear of them. In their view, Arab instigation can only explain a small part of the exodus and not a large part of it.[24][25][26][27][28][29] Moreover, Morris and Flapan have been among the authors whose research has disputed the official Israeli version claiming that the refugee flight was in large part instigated by Arab leaders.[30][31][32]
>Frequently repeated virtually identical lists of reasons are quoted on the internet in support of the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs in 1948/1949 being due to orders from Arab leaders.[33][34][35][36][37] In 1961 Erskine Childers investigated many of these offered references:
>"Examining every official Israeli statement about the Arab exodus, I was struck by the fact that no primary evidence of evacuation orders was ever produced. The charge, Israel claimed, was "documented"; but where were the documents? ... In Israel in 1958, as a guest of the Foreign Office and therefore doubly hopeful of serious assistance, I asked to be shown the proofs, I was assured they existed, and was promised them. None had been offered when I left, but I was again assured. I asked to have the material sent on to me. I am still waiting."[38]
:^)
>>68876332
National socialist here. I support Israel, as long as all the jews in Europe and North America move there. Palestinians need to go to Jordan or somewhere else. Jews need to stay in their own nation, and seek their own destiny. Stay out of the politics of other nations.That's a big shining red line they need not to cross.
>>68880394
Damn right!
>>68876332
Palestine. Without doubt.
Why the hell I would support a horde of genocidal invaders?
>>68876566
I can see what you're doing here, OP.
>>68876677
Found the Jew.
OP I know you said neutral, but most of us don't give a fuck what happens outside of Europe/America/Our own countries.
Neither of them have any right to the land really.
>>68876882
jeez, imagine tripping there.
Why support either side? They're pretty much the same people anyway
>>68883343
>instead of working out a diplomatic solution we will launch a massive land grab
Prime Minister Begin said in an unguarded, public moment in 1982. “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”
>>68883264
>Again it is direct from the horse's mouth on Israeli TV radio and newsprint
No it's not. You can't jsut wriste some made up bullshit and say: "look, the jews sid so themselves" just because you grab some fishy quote somewhere.
It's like you find it for example in Wikipedia:
"Many commentators consider the war as the classic case of anticipatory attack in self-defense."
>B-but muh tinfoil sources say otherwise..
>>68883583
>Why the hell I would support a horde of genocidal invaders?
Same reason to oppose the Muslim hordes invading Europe currently tbqh famriy
>>68876332
I would support Israel.
Better a Jew than a mudslime
>>68883746
closing the Straits of Tiran = casus belli
simple as that
>>68883802
>No it's not. You can't jsut wriste some made up bullshit and say: "look, the jews sid so themselves" just because you grab some fishy quote somewhere.
You're welcome to look up the archives anon but for one I was taught that primary sources are much much much better than a freely editable tertiary source.
You can even find peleds interviews online on the subject
>>68883939
And invading another nation gives right to self defense until the occupying forces are expelled.
Glad you support the Palestinian struggle:^)
>>68883942
Funny, you didn't gave a single source yet..
Once again I repeat my questions:
-How could destroy Isreal those massive amount of tanks and aricrafts if they weren't preparing for an invasion?
-Why didn't Israel give a damn about Jordan / Egypt afterwards?
You don't get that it's all about defense.
>>68883933
this pretty much,
got to spend some time with IDF guys, all good people.
Much more then i can say for either iraqi police or sandniggers otherwise
>>68884054
>>68883939
Oh and I wouldn't bring up international law as a basis for war as an Israeli considering your nation is listed as one of the worst violators on the face of the earth doing everything you claim those who oppse you do at a much larger scale including the use of human shields.
>>68884054
I'm glad you support the Indian struggle.
Maybe we should help them to establish organization for the Liberation of America.
Israel was given to the Jews because the British didn't want them I'm Europe, so they packed them on rusty boats and shipped them to the "promised land".
This promised land has put them on a path that will lead to their distraction.
It's been over 60 years since Israel became a nation, and they still don't have a recognized and secure boarder, the population is still 1 to 1 and they can't do shit to fully own the land.
So, if taking over a land and always fighting for it is what the hebrews want then by all means, take it.
>>68884170
>Funny, you didn't gave a single source yet
>sources are listed down to the date they were published.
>>68883820
Indeed. But keep in mind that those are invading with the lenience of the respective governments, that did not moved a finger to prevent the entry.
And unlike the Zionist settlers, the immigrants (far as I know) has not yet invaded the property of anyone, nor expelled anyone at the sight of rifles.
Nuke Israel and Mecca and no more problems
>>68884270
We actually recognize our Indian tribes as their own independent nations but nice try.
>>68876332
Palestine. Because Israel is the problem with the ME, and bc kikes are such a universally despised race.
>>68884345
>the immigrants (far as I know) has not yet invaded the property of anyone, nor expelled anyone at the sight of rifles.
[Image of no go zones where not even the police are willing to go]
>>68884368
>implying that if we recognize Palestine as a nation all will be fine and dandy
nigger its been 60 years since that and they still cant even function correctly. the PA is corrupt, Hamas is draining its resources for war and overall gaza is a shithole. that's like watching a piece of poop and recognizing it as "beautiful"
You can only support Israel since Palestine doesn't exist
/thread
>>68876332
You never support the Jews, anon.
NEVER.
>>68884368
you took 99.8% of their land and slaughtered millions.
If we were acting like you, we could have had peace with the Palestinians too.
>>68880642
It is because of Israel and its western support that Christians are persecuted in the ME. The Palestine and ME that existed before western intervention was much better than what you kikes gave us. Fuck off, I hear there are some more dropped shekels out there somewhere.
>>68885041
Yeah, Muslims would love Christians if it weren't for Jews, right?
>>68885041
Christians were so loved during the Islamic rule of the ME and Africa innit
why can't you be against both though
Israel.
If all the jews are in israel, they aren't fucking with us.
They fight muslims. Muslims have all of the middle east. They can deal with losing palestine.
>>68884727
>nigger its been 60 years since that and they still cant even function correctly.
It's hard to function correctly when you're nation is walled off and constantly bombed anon.
Inb4 self defense
There's this little thing in International law called proportionality which Israel constantly violates when "defending itself".
>>68885359
>he thinks balestine is an actual nation
>he thinks there is a thing called international law
>>68876332
I support Israel.
>>68885359
Who cares about international law? Wouldn't you glass Muslims if you had the choice
Israel, Canada's greatest ally
>>68876332
OP is perpetuating the same old shit and insisting that we "have" to choose one. Fuck em both. Israel whines about "muh poor 6 million" an awful lot considering their 70 year campaign of genocide against Palestinians.
On the other side of that coin, Palestinians are worthless pussies if they cannot or will not put up a decent fight and resist Zionist occupation.
At the end of the day, it's the two most arrogant religions vying for supremacy over a shit heap.
Judaism=god's chosen, everyone sucks but us.
Islam=our god is best and we'll fucking murder you to if you disagree, but peace and love and blah blah blah.
Fuck the whole racket.
Gas 'em both and build Alladin's "Arabian Nights" theme park in their place.
>>68876332
>Being neutral is not an answer.
Fuck you, Jew cunt.
I hope both sides fucking rot. Fuck the entire Middle East.
>>68884819
So the crimes of the past(which I oppose) justify you doing the same savage things today?
And you call other savages.
Fun fact the Supreme Court ruled under Jackson's Presidency that treaties with native American tribes were to be honored just as with any other nation. Which he promptly ignored violated our Constitution and waged war anyway.
>>68885114
It is a historically accurate statement.
Especially regarding Jews.
Over the last 500 years before Zionist colonization there were roughly half a dozen notable times Jews were killed/expelled for being Jews.
Compared to the hundreds throughout the rest of the world over the same time frame
>>68885041
>you made the Muslims angry and now they slaughter christians because of you.
>yes it's because of Israel, though the Muslims slaughtered and converted Christians long before the existence of Israel.
>>68885433
1.The British Mandate of Palestine was on that land before the Juden showed up
2.There actually is something called international law.
Jesus fucking Christ, /pol/.
We so desperate to court the few remaining racists that we'll take this cunt nugget?
>>68885469
>Wouldn't you glass Muslims if you had the choice
Le glass duh middle East is a beyond childish viewpoint anon for so many reasons it is embarrassing it is even suggested.
We could start with "these people are genocidal savages so we need to kill a billion of them to stop genocide"
Or that pesky nuclear fallout deal
>>68885703
Whats wrong with bombing muslims to bits? you do it and even bomb hospitals for doctors without borders?
>>68885776
mandate=/= nation
>2.There actually is something called international law.
Really? where was it when murrica and russia bombed a hospitals? or when europe bombed serbian civilians? or when europe is closing their borders for refugees and bribing turkey to take them back?
oleoleoeoeo
Israel
because fuck muslims. Jews are educated and civilized. My dream is see christians and jews teaming up with maybe the hindus and budhists of the east, then we can all remove kebab together.
>>68885911
dude, blowing up hospitals and schools saying, "durr, but there was teroras there" is not civilized.
censoring anything against your government and blindly following a bloodthirsty dictator and calling it "democracy" isn't most peoples' definition of "educated" either.
>>68885703
>Over the last 500 years before Zionist colonization there were roughly half a dozen notable times Jews were killed/expelled for being Jews.
>Compared to the hundreds throughout the rest of the world over the same time frame
wow, they should get a medal.
only half?!
btw this statistic is probably faulty.
the documentation in the arab world was worse than in europe.
even in these days people are slaughtered there and no one documents it.
>>68885901
mandate=was fucking stolen, so it had to be there in the first place.
do i have to hold your lil hand and take you back past 1900? sigh.
daily reminder that kikes are the reason why the region is unstable to begin with
absolutely kill yourselves retarded jew loving scums
there is a very good reason why "isis" strongholds border israel and they have yet to attack/be attacked by them
>>68885776
>We so desperate to court the few remaining racists that we'll take this cunt nugget?
Zionist have been opposed here since /new/ mainly because up until the Exodus and rise of /neopol/ where most of the people that know about the third column Zionist in our government controlling our foreign policy left and were replaced with edgy contrarianist parrots.
It is amazing how few people know who this man is and the significance of him on here where abouts a year ago it was common knowledge
>>68886210
>do i have to hold your lil hand and take you back past 1900
I'd argue the only people on earth more propagandized than American SJWs and neocons are Israelis and North Koreans
>>68886210
stolen means they took it illegally to their own place
You can steal land unless you grab it and go back to your home and put it in your coffee.
Liberals are truly retarded innit
And I don't see why you support Muslim colonization but not Jewish liberation
>>68886247
do they control the banks and the media too?
and hollywood?
>>68876332
Israel if every jew lives in Israel and doesn't fuck with Europe or the west in general.
>>68886207
>btw this statistic is probably faulty.
It is actually widespread and well sourced on this site as a mark of pride amongst the neonazis on this board.
Even freely available on Wikipedia anon.
It is quite simply basic history
>>68886226
haha ISIS would be fucking wiped out like roaches if they were to attack Israel. Suck a dick ahmed, you are a part of the sandnigger diaspora and you are not fooling anyone.
>>68876332
>Israel
This thread again.
Every. Single. Day.
I love it when Muslims and leftists get butthurt over dead Muslims killed by Israel.
>>68886465
hmmm funny how isis attacks muslims and christians only
who could possibly be benefiting from this????
>>68886417
read the whole comment
>>68886578
>isis attacks muslims
Isis attacks shias, they are not muslims
>>68886390
To the degree of them simply being Jewish?
That is just a simple fact.
But they aren't one cohesive group by any means and claims to it are utterly unfounded.
Hollywood is Marxist and media as in the big three news conglomerates is largely owned by Zionist neocon Jews.
But American foreign policy bring controlled by third collum Zionist is extreme well documented.
Here is the short of it
But I recommend doing your own reading on the sources suggested
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TMW7x0fLaLA
>>68886561
>>68886634
>oy vey our rabid dog only kills goyim
>they are CATTLE anyways don't worry!!
tel aviv will be a smoking crater before the next decade
>>68886791
>>68886207
Kikes have been persecuted for the last 3500 years for good reason.
>>68886825
Except attacking a hyper casher and targeting jewish schools and beheading a Jewish journalist
>>68886578
the christians
>>68876332
Israel
Sholem Aleikhem brothers
>>68886578
kek isis is slaying muslims like no one else. Mudslimes are their own worst enemy.
>>68886911
ahahaha didn't know you already lost control of your dog
tick tock kike, the day of the rope approaches
>>68886634
by the power of grayskull, what the fuck are you on?
sunni Muslims = muslims
shia Muslims = muslims
Maybe, by your's or someone else's estimation, shia are not "real" muslims, but I can assure you they regard themselves as such.
There's no two homogenous camps in this conflict. Secular and relgious Jews fucking hate each other. Hamas and Fatah pit two parts of Palestinian identity against us.
They should model their state on Lebanon, one-state solution where everyone just does their own shit.
>>68887109
Shias are like christians worshipping an ali instead of a jesus
but it's good they kill each other for 1400 years
>>68887097
This
I'm reading a lot of stuff about the Jews controlling hollywood, banking, and foreign policy.
Haven't read anything about their subversion campaigns in American academia though.
Wonder why that is.
>>68887213
kek. no arguments there.
>>68887190
>>68887370
jewish women confirmed for not shaving legs.
fire up the ovens.
>>68887506
She's an arap terrorist
Israel. Why ? Because Israel has contributed more to me, than palis have.
What have Israelis done to you guys anyways ? Israel is plenty right wing anyways. It's only soros, the communist, that wants to kill your country.
>>68887141
>They should model their state on Lebanon, one-state solution where everyone just does their own shit.
Lebanon is a failed country with countless problems.
>>68887543
either way, i stand behind my comment. haha.
>>68876332
neutral as always senpai
if you are pro/cons , the shlomo will always get a reason to get to you
>>68876332
If I have to pick one I pick Palestine. Fuck the ZOG.
I support Jews and Muslims killing each other to extinction.
>>68887543
Wait, if she's arapian, Why is IDF bothering with what I presume is medical care? Or maybe they are about to make rapey time with her dead/dying body?
>>68876332
Israel.
>>68876332
Take the banks, media, and corporations from them both.
>>68876332
I believe both sides should be glassed and that the area be forever marked as a no go zone
>>68887805
Because they shot her
>>68876332
The Jews can fight with pales over the scraps of labor and menial jobs we will provide.
>>68887836
plenty of tech you use is made and invented by Israelis and jews.
You should purge london first, m8o.
Israel, literally our greatest ally. wonderful people, wonderful culture, VERY SMART.
>>68876332
Kingdom of Jerusalem
>>68887865
I thought IDF just shot people and left them (or executed the wounded). Why would the devious, horriffic, deplorable jews administer medical care to the enemy?
>>68876332
Palestine.
Then again I'm an Arab American so my view might be skewed.
>>68887805
She's (was) 16, the idf shot her when they claimed that she had a knife, it's the equivalent of shooting a nigger and sprinkling some crack on them to justify it.
>>68888008
Shooting an arap is justified by the action alone
>>68876332
The rather moderate jews, who have been our allies and who are a foothold of western culture in the middle of that shithole. Why would anyone choose those barbarians that are incapable of doing anything worthwhile?
>>68888065
Jews are the enemy not ally, JIDF.
>>68888047
No it's not, but since you're a savage kike, I can see why you'd say such a thing.
>>68888111
why ? They didn't do san bernadino, 9/11, brussels and more.
>>68882215
kek
>>68888160
Trudeau pls
Soon you will understand, the arap is not to be trusted
>>68888111
nice digits wrong man
>/pol/ fantasizes about kebab removal
>gets triggered when israel does it
>>68876332
Israel, zero doubt.
I have no problem with their jews whatsoever, they're mostly orthodox non-liberal kind of jews.
Rest of middle east can burn to the ground.
>>68886843
Your country is being occupied and your race is being cucked for good reason.
>>68888065
This is a damn solid point.
I'm betting most people who vote to gas Israel are butt mutilated and brainswashed SJW trash who think the "liberation" of Palestine will signal the dawn of an era of peace. I'm betting they're the same people who rallied against apartheid and are conveniently silent now that Johannesburg looks like Detroit.
Some people just aren't happy if they don't have some injustice (real or perceived) to be battling.
>>68888178
the Canadian Muslim ITT already claimed that Israel is behind ISIS.
If you say Israel you are objectively stupid.
Here's what I think we should do:
>create artificial island in the middle of the atlantic
>island is new israel
>jerusalem becomes an independent city state under the control of the UN
fuck anyone who complains
>>68888230
Actually, the common saying is about not trusting the slimy jew.
>>68876332
>Israel commited terrorist attacks in Palestine (King David hotel bombing) against the British who promised them land
>Israel ethnically cleansed 80% of historical Palestine, displaced 700,000 Palestinians and destroyed 1000 villages
>Israel backstabbed America TWICE during false flag attacks (USS Liberty-Lavon affair) resulting in 200 deaths and injured Americans, to get America involved in a war with Egypt.
>Israel occupied the last 20% of Palestinian territories in 1967.
>Israel is the country with the most UN resolutions violation (77 resolutions)
>Israel doubled the settlements in the West Bank after the Oslo Peace Accords.
>Israel recieves one-third of USA's aid, even though they're the 16th richest country in the world.
>Israel built a shrine and a memorial for a murderer (Baruch Goldstein) who killed 29 Palestinians praying in a mosque.
>The only Israeli Prime Minister (Rabin) who dared to take bold steps for peace was assassinated.
>Israel hired a spy (Jonathan Pollard) to steal classified documents from the US, gave some to the Soviet Union, and tried to deny it afterwards.
>Israel is the only democracy in the world with a separation wall and "Jewish-only" roads.
>Israel deliberately targeted a U.N civilian refugee camp in Qana, Lebanon killing 103 men, women and children.
>Israel allow American Jewish murders to flee to their country in order to escape punishment.
>Israel is the only country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons/bombs.
>Several Israelis were caught dancing and cheering during 9/11.
>Netanyahu stated that 9/11 was good for Israel, and that the US was "easily moved"
>Israel continues to assassinate several innocent Iranian nuclear scientists
>Innocent Palestinians are daily killed and harrassed by settlers, whom Israel supports
>>68876332
Israel.
We need a place where we would send all the kikes. They also do a good job by starting to build the wall that will surround the entire country. As for sand niggers, I'd colonize them myself.
>>68886226
This
Fuck Jews before Muslims as one comes before the other
If Israel never existed the West's problems with the Middle East would be virtually non-existent
>>68888408
This.
>>68888412
This is why Europe chose to get rid of the Jews and bring Muslims, guess how it turned out for them
>>68876332
Israel because Islam ruins everything. The worst things got here the more of a Zionist I've become. We can set up the English diaspora next door.
>>68878135
Who else has killed that many kikes since 87?
Israel.
There is no way in hell I'm supporting filthy fucking moors. Israel's only mistake is realizing what the west is now slowly realizing, that mudshits are a cancer upon this earth and need to be removed.
>>68888413
lol'd fuckin hard at "innocent iranian nuclear scientist."
person of color, please.
>>68888498
>implying
>>68888775
Is she the queen of Jews or something?
>>68876332
Israel is the only white nationalist country left on earth. Most people rightfully say Jews are communist scum, but this is only half true as those communist globalist kikes are atheists, and only genetically Semitic.
As a half jew who is descended from a lebanese refugee, with dead family members and a destroyed wealth, i hate the eternal shitskin. The mudslime plague originated in Yemen then raped and pillaged their way across half the planet. Arabs have killed every Jew and Christians they can get their hands on, and now we should do the same.
Gas the Mudslimes, kick out the globalist Jews(or put them in camps, i dont care), and build a wall before even more genocide against whites continues.
Jews deserve death.
>>68888890
FUCK SO GODDAMN CLOSE
TWO DIGITS CLOSE FUCK
Just turn the both of them into glass and be done with it
>>68888413
>guys, a lot of shitskins were killed by Israel hands
kek, like anyone here give a fuck about it.
>>68888964
As close as you are white
>>68888413
you should come here and fight with your palestinian brothers in the next round, instead of shitposting from denmark.
>>68889093
He did
>>68888853
it doesn't count if it's white genocide.
just like it isn't real racism if it's anti-white racism.
get with the times man, jeez.
>>68888305
I know, our politics is being run by socialist scum. While EU Jews are flooding my country with migrants.
>>68889171
should have shot that fucking sven
>>68877228
>he doesnt like something
AH, SAFE SPACE
please kill yourself
>>68876332
On the one hand, I like Adam Sandler movies.
On the other hand, lamb kebabs are fucking delicious.
Gas them both and keep the kebabs and my betamax copy of Billy Madison? Is that an option, OP?
>>68889496
>I like Adam Sandler movies.
>>68888853
>Israel white nationalist
Jews are the cause, Muslims are the symptom
The OP question isn't mutually exclusive either. You can be anti-Israel/Jew and support Palestinians right to exist, but be anti-Muslim refugees and radicals as well
>>68889496
There has been some sick and hateful talk on this thread, but your Adam Sandler shit is by far the sickest. Fuck you, anon. Fuck you right up your stupid, tasteless ass.
>>68889049
>Shitskin talking shit about shitskins
>>68876332
Literally impossible question:
if israel would cease to exist jews would come to europe. Not a desired outcome.
But on the other hand as long as israel exists they will need western support and money.
So as long as they exist they will meddle in our affairs to gain support.
Either way we lose.
Neither, I support this because Israel is rightful christian clay.
>>68889175
ikr it's 2016
i wouldn't be a true Jew if i didn't plug my youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuj_kGisC_U
>>68876698
This.
Jews and Mudslimes are a liability and are a cog in the technological and social expansion of the human race.
>>68876358
>Being neutral is not an answer.
Yes it is, I don't give a shit.
Though I know that if you kill all the Jews in Israel will do a lot more good than if you kill all the palestinians in Israel
>>68889656
nevermind these people brother, your people and my people will remove the Muslims, the EU isn't a viable option anymore.
>>68889825
>if you kill all the Jews in Israel will do a lot more good than if you kill all the palestinians in Israel
this
