Is Banning an entire religion of millions of people from coming into the US too far? Isn't it against the constitution?
Yes it is,
We're having a discussion already, check the catalog.
>>67867467
You think the founding fathers gave one flying fuck about Islam? We've done religious tests just fine
>>67867467
How's Ahmed's cock treating your wife?
>>67867467
Here are 100 pieces of candy. 10 of them are lethal poison. Would you eat the candy?
>jihad, beheading, etc, doesn't fire anyone up
>"they don't have a right to this country tbqh"
>100000 cartoons
>>67867583
How is it against the constitution?
Btw if you mention freedom of religion you don't know what you're talking about
>>67867467
>Isn't it against the constitution?
Was it against the constitution when they did it to the Japanese?
The constitution only applies to American residents.
>>67867612
Cool cock Ahmed.
>>67867467
Islam isn't just a religion.
It's also a form of government.
We have no room for two forms of government.
>>67867467
>>67867583
>Isn't it against the constitution?
No.
U.S. Code Per 8 USC §1182:"Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
>>67867467
>just out of frame millions of sandniggers killing each other and anyone else that gets too close
But seriously, I don't totally agree with the Islam ban. I think it makes more sense to ban immigration from certain countries. Obviously don't bring anyone in that can't be vetted as well. I assume this is how the "Islam ban" would be implemented.
What if a young Muslim kid wants to come to the US to be a doctor and they're parents have to look them in their eyes and tell them "no" Donald Trump banned all Muslims from the US so you can never go just because you are a Muslim, his dreams will be ruined... wouldn't you feel bad?
>>67867467
FACT: under the obama administration america has a ban on iraqi citizens from gaining citizenship in america
all you would have to do is ban every majority muslim nation and all nations to cucked for their own good
also any one on a no fly list or any one who said some kebab faggotry shit on jewbook. the "wife" of the cali shooter said some jihadist shit on facebook and they let her in
>>67867467
>religion of peace
That is my favorite meme.
>>67867467
It's a safety precaution and non U.S. citizens don't have constitutional rights.
We are currently at war with a radical Islamic group that controls Iraq.
Also any Muslim on the planet can be indoctrinated considering more Muslims from the U.K. joined ISIS than their own military.
>>67867820
UN Convention
>Article 3 - Non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.
>Article 4 - Religion
The Contracting States shall accord to refugees within their territories treatment at least as favourable as that accorded to their nationals with respect to freedom to practise their religion and freedom as regards the religious education of their children.
>Universal Declaration of Human Rights
>Article 1: Legal Definition.
This article repeats several rights from the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights’s Article 18:
· Right to thought, conscience, and religion or belief;
· Right to have a religion or whatever belief of your choice;
· Right either individually or in community with others, in private or public, to manifest a religion or belief through worship, observance, practice and teaching;
· Right not to suffer coercion that impairs the freedom to choose a religion or belief;
· Right of the State to limit the manifestation of a religion or belief-
>Article 2: Classification of Discrimination.
: · States (national, regional, local government); Institutions (governmental, non?governmental, religious); Groups of persons; Persons.
>Article 3: Link to Other Rights.
This article links the 1981 UN Declaration to other international documents. Article 3 declares that discrimination based on religion or belief constitutes an affront to human dignity and a disavowal of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and shall be condemned as a violation of the human rights and fundamental freedoms proclaimed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and enunciated in detail in:
· The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights;
· The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.
>>67868024
Nope. I would tell him his third world shithole needs doctors a lot more than we do. Trump is providing a service to humanity.
>>67867467
No. Religions are simply ideologies and should have all their special privileges removed.
>At least one sect of Kharajites, the Najdiyya, believed that if no suitable imam was present in the community, then the position could be dispensed with.[1] A strand of Mutazalite thought paralleled that of the Najdiyya: if rulers inevitably became tyrants, then the only acceptable course of action was to stop installing rulers.
>>67868024
>never
>not "until all of our friends, family, and countrymen stop killing everyone"
>>67867820
And yet, every main stream media outlet, from CNN to FOX, is pushing this "b-but it's against the constitution. trump is a racist."
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
There is a difference between indifference and hatred
I am pretty sure most Americans are in the former
>>67868127
The US needs to pull out of the UN. It in no way advances America's interests.
>>67868024
Good luck with that, his family needs to be loaded and he needs perfect grades for him to finish med school in the US. This isn't Pakistan where you can buy diplomas off the internet. And if they're smart and rich, their country needs them more.
>>67867645
Cmon OP I'm waiting.
>>67868127
>UN Convention
>>67867787
Want to bring it to Trump Towers so I could shove it up your ass you filthy raghead?
So much shit is unconstitutional and you care now?
Get the fuck out my face bitch nigga.
>>67868127
>UN Convention
Why don't they ask the neighboring countries to accept those refugees instead?
>>67868127
m8, no one cares about the UN, look which countries are on their board of human rights. The constitution allows it, therefore, it's fine.
>>67867467
>Entire
You mean Syrian Refugees?
"Syrian Refugees" who are 10-to-1 from other countries.
>>67867467
>constitution
only applies to murican citizens, gwailo
>>67867467
First, no, it's not against the constitution.
Second, we don't need Muslims here. They are a disease. A cancer.
>>67868276
99% of Muslim's are hardworking good peaceful people and banning every single one of them for no good reason seems extreme and a bit racist
>>67868310
No, its actually perfectly constitutional.
U.S. Code Per 8 USC §1182:"Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
Google for the rest
>Sheikh Bedrettin (1359–1420) (Ottoman Turkish: شیخ بدرالدین) was a proto-Socialist revolutionary Sufi theologian and charismatic preacher who led a rebellion against the Ottoman Empire in 1416. His full name was Şeyh Bedrettin Mahmud Bin İsrail Bin Abdülaziz.
>His writings were condemned by a number of Ottoman religious scholars such as Ismail Hakki Bursevi. Others instead praise the Sheikh. He is a popular figure among Turkey's left. Nazim Hikmet was jailed for inciting rebellion after encouraging military cadets to read Bedreddin's work. The musicians Cem Karaca and Zulfu Livaneli composed a song based on a Hikmet's epic poem, the Şeyh Bedrettin Destanı. In Hikmet's work, Bedrettin and his companions emphasize that all things must be shared "except the lips of the beloved."
>Sheikh Bedrettin's proto-socialist ideas emphasised direct action, direct democracy, international and interfaith human solidarity, equality and communal life. He is highly respected among the Turkish anarchists.[2]
>>67867467
>>67868024
>implying the USA is the only country in the world that trains doctors
how's spring break, junior? rag one of those high school skanks for me, will ya
>>67868444
>99%
pulled out of your ass
>>67868444
Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan
>Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan (1890 – 20 January 1988) (Pashto : خاں عبدالغفار خاں,) was a Pashtun political and spiritual leader known for his non-violent opposition to British Rule in India. A lifelong pacifist, a devout Muslim,[3] and a close friend of Mahatma Gandhi, he was also known as Badshah Khan (also Bacha Khan, Pashto: lit., "King Khan"), Fakhr-e-Afghan (pride of Afghans) and Sarhaddi Gandhi (Urdu, Hindi lit., "Frontier Gandhi").
Ghaffar Khan's Muslim pacifism was based on the anarcho-pacifist ideas of Henry Thoreau and Leo Tolstoy.
>>67868444
>99% of Muslim's are hardworking good peaceful people
[citations needed]
>>67868444
Well you can't attack Hillary's supporters directly, that's just a cheap blow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFVnknIXMTk
>>67867467
>Isn't it against the constitution?
The constitution is only designed to protect citizens, not foreigners. Obama's already put a moratorium on Iraqis gaining citizenship, and Carter put a ban on Iranians.
It's not that far fetched to put out blanket temporary bans on Syrians and other nationalities deemed too high a risk to not develop better vetting methods for.
>>67868444
hes not banning them indefinitely, hes pausing the influx until more through checks can be done
this isnt about the 99% this is about the 1% that will do things like fly a plane into your skycrapers
>>67867583
Fuck off Paco, this isn't you country.
No, the Supreme Court says it is Constitutional. Did you know we also have bans on Communists immigrating? Also Constitutional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_restrictions_on_naturalization_in_U.S._law
Congress can set any immigration law it wants to. We don't have to accept anyone we don't want.
We also didn't accept any Muslim immigrants until 1965. For hundreds of years we only accepted European and Asian immigrants.
>>67868149
>No. Religions are simply ideologies and should have all their special privileges removed.
If they were stripped of their ridiculous special rights they would rapidly reform.
At the moment there's no reason for normal muslims to deal with their issues their ideology causes, if they were suddenly locked out of many countries I'm sure they would suddenly decide it's worth the effort to fix their mess.
The same applies to many cults and poorly behaved religions. They won't behave because they're above the law according to western rules.
Yes, now gtfo.
>>67868127
>UN
>meaning anything without the U.S.
Pick one and only one, Pablito
>>67867467
It's not against the constitution
It is absolutely legal.
>>67867467
>religion
If said religion is a cancer to rights of individuals and forces people to wear certain cloths and has its own laws i say yes
>>67867467
Didn't congress ban all Chinese immigrants for 10 years back in the 1800s?
>>67867467
Glad I got to use this
>>67868127
Phew! Luckily America is one of the bosses in the UN raid and we can ignore what ever we want :D
If you're stupid enough to believe in a religion you don't deserve to live in a 1st world country.
>No, the Supreme Court says it is Constitutional. We can have any limits on immigraiton we want.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_restrictions_on_naturalization_in_U.S._law
>We also didn't accept any Muslim immigrants until 1965. For hundreds of years we only accepted European and Asian immigrants.
>>67868658
I meant no, fucking shit im drunk.
A religion that advocate world conquest and the genocide of all non mudslimes.
If Islam is so bad then why did George Bush call it the religion of peace? You republicunts can't even keep your story straight
>>67868715
this.
Why Americans think they're above the UN laws?
They're this ignorant?
>>67868024
>>67868444
>>67868804
you can fuck off anytime
>>67867467
No, and no. The muslims are killing us. We need to get rid of them.
>>67868863
>this manner of bait
have a (you)
Obama banned Iranians in 2011 I think so what's the big deal over banning Mudslimes?
>>67868863
Why does the UN think they're above America?
>>67868444
>99% of Muslim's are hardworking good peaceful people
>>67868863
>>67868939
Because its clearly in violation of the constitution to discriminate against people based on religion
>>67868939
Also, the ban isn't an entire Muslim ban, only a ban on non-US Muslims
>>67868804
bit too obvious with the bait there champ
>>67868863
>Why Americans think they're above the UN laws?
Nice globalist indoctrination
>>67868863
>UN Laws
>>67868127
>UN
Amigo, we ARE the UN. We can do whatever the fuck we like to economic migrants and potential terrorist threats.
And the best part? There's not a damn thing you or any other limp-dick statist apparatchik can do about it.
>>67868863
Buddy, we ARE the UN
>Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that 'all men are created equal.' We now practically read it, 'all men are created equal, except negroes.' When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read, 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty—to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
Abraham Lincoln, Speeches and Writings, 1832-1858
>>67868444
>99% of Muslim's are hardworking good peaceful people and banning every single one of them for no good reason seems extreme and a bit racist
99% isn't good enough long term. That would give you 10,000 violent militants per 1,000,000 muslims. You can't have tens of thousands of citizens planning to violently attack the country. There's no way to keep track of them all and the cost of trying to stop them will be prohibitive and to have any chance of stopping them non-muslims will have to give up most of their freedoms.
Something will have to be done about the islamist problem eventually, refusing to make unpleasant choices in the short term will make the an even bigger mess in the future.
>>67867467
>Isn't it against the constitution?
No.
Freedom of religion is about not arresting people for thought crime or speaking about ideas or praying in a certain way.
Having a religion doesn't make you immune to any laws, immigration or other.
The president can ban anyone he wants for any reason.
Isn't letting anyone into the country who feels like showing up against the whole point of having a country?
![suicide_bomber_3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b2wXK6M.jpg "suicide_bomber_3[1].jpg")
>>67867467
>Salam i come in peace
>What you mean you won't grant me special rights because i am a muslim?
>ALLAHU AKBAR!
>>67867467
If anyone actually thinks Trump is gonna 'ban' muslims, they're obviously deluded. When he said muslims, what he meant was arabs from the Middle Eastern countries.
Why is there even a conversation on this about legitimacy? It's not fucking happening on the scale you retards think it is if he wins.
>>67868127
The day we allow the UN to override our domestic preferences is the day we cease to be the USA. We are not Canada. The UN does not get to tell us what to do.
>>67868127
>Mexican
>intellectuals
If we ban all Muslims The rest of the world is going to think that America is all racist bigots, no other western civilization has a ban on Muslim's, we are regressing instead of progressing
>>67867467
>against the constitution
No, America is freedom!
>>67868276
>Here are one billion pieces of candy. Ten of them are lethal poison.
>>67867467
>Reply
Freedom of religion only means private belief, not the right to unlawful assembly.
>>67868223
>The US needs to pull out of the UN. It in no way advances America's interests.
>US has permanent security council membership that gives them the right to veto any intervention and a shit tonne of other administrative power over 200 other states
>It in no way advances America's interests.
>no way advances America's interests.
lmao you stupid fucking faggot, why the fuck do you feel the urge to talk out of your ass when you clearly know shit all about what you're typing? Seriously fuckwit does it make you feel better about yourself, are you honestly able to trick yourself into believing you know shit about what you're discussing just because you phrase it as a definitive statement?
go fuck yourself, seriously cunt you're whats wrong with the world
>>67869092
>quoting the man who literally suspended fundamental pillars of western law when it suited him
>>67867820
How does the us code have anything to do with the constitutionality of anything? The constitution supersedes US code.
Saying no muslims can come into the US is VERY clearly in violation of the first amendment. You could however ban all people from specific middle eastern countries.
>>67867467
Yes, but it would be racist banning only Arabs, even if it's only those people who are scum
The USA is the only country that could make the UN implode if it left. No other, just us. It bows to our will. Also helps that we pay above and beyond anyone else to run that dump.
>>67867467
>Is Banning an entire religion of millions of people from coming into the US too far?
Wasn't a problem when Obama blocked an entire country's immigrants (in Iraq, where his country was the cause of the refugee issue) for 6 months.
Now Trump wants to do the same temporary ban for the religion itself and people say it's racist.
>>67867820
That's clearly talking about aliens and not immigrants you dumb Ameriburger.
>>67869197
Nope Trump wants to ban ALL Muslim's from every country including other western countries such as the UK or Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Zj0tfZY6o
>>67869341
oh no! the rest of the world won't like America! whatever will we do!
>>67868127
>UN Convention
top kek
>>67869341
As if we give a shred of shit what other nations think. What country do you think this is?
Oh and fuck Muslims.
>>67869486
They're not American citizens, nor have they even entered the country. They're foreign nationals in their entirety, still living on foreign soil. American rights and protections do not apply, unless you'd like to redefine what the word "citizen" entails.
>>67869341
fuck you, our politicans are sucking everyones dick and we, we people all hate muslims.
go usa and do your job so that our politicans sdo the same
>>67869341
>progressing
>>67869486
>Saying no muslims can come into the US is VERY clearly in violation of the first amendment
no its fucking not. They aren't US citizens their rights mean jack shit
>>67869551
it's literally the same thing
>>67868036
>no fly list
Lel, no. No fly lists are capricious and not held to due process. For all you know, you could be put on one in a lib state for having a Trump yard sign.
>>67869608
Good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks
>>67869341
>Being President is a serious job
>says the guy who spends more time on talk shows than he does at work.
also
>Islam is progress
lol fuck off retard
>no other western civilization has a ban on Muslim's
That's why their all getting fucked up.
>>67867467
It's no longer a religion though. It's morphed into a terrorist organization.
>>67867467
1) no it isnt against the constitution
2) temporary ban until issues in the middle east come to a close, it incentivises the middle east to fucking sort its shit out
>>67868715
Shouldn't you be praying to a bottle of maple syrup or something?
>>67869869
You forgot
>trump doesn't do and hasn't done serious work
>muslim terrorists come into countries posed as refugees
>kill tens to hundreds of innocent civilians in their attacks
>"g-guess we better do nothing and just hope they stop, not letting muslims in until we figure this shit out would be i-intolerant
The problem will never be solved if you refuse to address it
>>67867467
not if their are safety concerns to citizens
How would you even enforce a Muslim ban? Muslim's could just lie about their religion, thats the problem with Trump none of his ideas even make sense if you actually think about them....
>>67867467
no and no
constitution grants rights to us citizens only, not non-citizens
also Carter banned iranians from coming to USA in the 70's
>>67869341
>being president is a serious job
>by the way any time there's a big trial involving blacks I will blindly state that I support the black side, despite all the evidence, and simply state he looks the same as I do
>>67870372
>Muslim's could just lie about their religion
The people working the USCIS aren't fucking retarded mate.
>>67870372
>You checked "Christian", but you're wearing your blanket draped over your entire body
>Let 'em through
okay..
>>67870490
Nice strawman argument banning Iranians isn't the same as banning ALL Muslim's
>>67869608
By this logic, Trump is an Israeli shill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcpnyhSEnXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH8Q40s9eXc
He's only saying this shit to get votes. If you actually think he's going to ban all muslims, you're actually retarded. It's literally an impossibility.
>>67870576
you don't even know what a strawman is do you retard
>>67868127
all that says is they can't discriminate once they are inside the US. it doesnt say anything about blocking entry
>>67870372
>none of his ideas even make sense if you actually think about them....
>cutting off the gravy train for illegal immigrants doesn't make sense
>letting them stay here illegally and giving them money for it somehow makes sense
>>67868024
>What if a young Muslim kid wants to come to the US to be a doctor
how many rapefugees want to become doctors?
>>67868127
UN having control over america lel enjoy being cucked by muhhomad italy
>>67870490
>constitution grants rights to us citizens only, not non-citizens
According to you rounding up random tourists and shooting them would be fine and dandy by the US constitution. I dont think your supreme court would agree desu.
I agree that the constitution doesn't give the right to enter the US to any non-citizen and the USA can decide by any arbitrary criteria who they welcome in their country, though
>>67869608
>ban muslims from syria and iraq to stop terrorists from entering
>terrorists go to germany or sweden instead
>then head over to the usa
thank god he wants to halt all incoming potential terrorsits
>>67867467
>islam
>religion
Pick one you idiot. Go educate yourself
>>67868863
>actually cares about the UN
Fuck you we do what we want
>>67868863
unelected bureaucrats do not trump national sovereignty
>>67870136
anon pls. JAYPEG artifacts aren't shrapnel and won't increase the killcount.
>>67871057
He's wrong and right. The Constitution only applies to individuals in lands "governed" by said Constitution.
Little Achmed in Iraq who wants to come to the US is completely outside of the protection of the US Constitution thus banning him from coming is perfectly Constitutional.
Although I'm sure the Left-wing Supreme Court would find something to interpret that overrides such a ban.
>>67868863
The UN is a puppet of ours we manipulate to our own advantage. They hold no cards, they were our creation, and we'll probably end the sick joke in the next 20 years. We hate the UN.
>>67868444
Guess I'm a racist then, oh well :)
You guys literally have no idea what your even talking about its like arguing with children it is literally impossible to ban every Muslim and against the constitution
>>67871057
>According to you rounding up random tourists and shooting them would be fine and dandy by the US constitution.
Correct what is your point?
>>67871435
It's not and it's not. Please show me the passage in the constitution saying it's against it
>>67870372
>Muslims are deceitful liars that will commit fraud on their visa applications and break into our country illegally, so we should just let them.
This is what you sound like.
>>67871435
No one cares. Muslims are scum and will destroy the country, thus undermining the constitution. We have to ignore it to save it for the only people that matter i.e. white people.
>>67868846
Bruh---but a trigger warning in front of these, tbqh senpai.
>>67868127
you can pull out of the refugee convention within a year if you want to (it's regulated in the text), you can also restrict it if you want to.
Turkey only restricts it to refugees from Europe for example.
democracy directly contravenes islam, read the book islamofascists
>>67868444
99% no the paris gunmen were rapefuggees
>>67867761
>The constitution only applies to American residents.
This. Fucking retards, the rest of you.
There's no way he does it.
Trump will back off from this idea.
Implying he will even win against shillary
>>67869808
>it's literally the same thing
Look at the flag of the poster you replied to and try not being stupid next time.
>>67868024
You talk about doctors and life basically in your own made up fantasy land.
In austria every second refugee had already charges filed and trouble with the law YES 50%. And our politicians now send out leaflets explaining to refugees that raping is bad and further explains some basic sexual education... and you talk about doctors.
Again literally in your own dreamworld.
>>67868127
>the un
Same organisation that thinks Maori disproportionately committing serious crimes is white racism
>>67867467
I don't know.
Is declaring war on an entire religion of billions of people taking it too far? Ask Bush and Obama because that is basically what they did.
Trump is just being responsible. You don't bully some one for 15 years and then let them into your house without checking them for gasoline and matches first.
>>67868127
>UN Convention
lol
>>67867467
Muslim here.
I'd just like to interject for a moment.
Our stance is more or less like the jews.
Whether you're a muslim or non muslim, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, kuffar.
Just like they jews label you goyim.
>>67871687
2 or 3 where from Iraq iirc. The rest had european citizenship (obviously shitskins) but some of them also entered via the refugee route to avoid detection by intelligence services/law enforcement since they were known ISIS fighters.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/new-isis-islamic-state-news-pictures-videos-kill-them-wherever-you-find-them-et-tuez-les-ou-que-vous-les-rencontriez-french-english-translation-paris-attacks-full-uncensored-youtube/
>>67867467
Why can we ban Nazis then?
If you don't support a ban on Islam, you cannot support a ban on facists or Nazis.
>>67867467
>not protecting your people from the influence of people that are ok with stone people to death for petty crimes
your average muslim is not better than an ISIS member, if they had the chance and didn't have anything to regret they'd the same shit that their radical compatriots do.
>>67868127
>UN
>>67867467
No.. it's not unconstitutional.... the Constitution applies to Americans, not "people who want to come to America"... many groups have been banned in the past.
We should killing more muslims the we are now. Shit we may have to invade europe in the future when it becomes middle east 2.0.
>>67871882
Sauce on statistics?
>>67867467
No.
We place immigration memorandums on asians, eastern europeans, and africans.
Everyone conviently forgets that those immigrants had all of their own problems.
>Irish were drunkards whose catholicism often clashed with protestant mainline denominatoins
>Eastern Europeans were drunkards and criminals
>Asians brought rampant opiate usage
And each of them brings their own fucking form of organized crime because of the way we shuffled them off into economically disenfranchised situations.
No its not.
Clearly you have never read it.
>>67873070
Its obviously in german but here you go:
http://www.krone.at/Oesterreich/Jeder_zweite_Asylwerber_wegen_Straftaten_angezeigt-Kriminalstatistik-Story-499891
http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/Jeder-zweite-Asylwerber-wird-angezeigt/227243290
>>67868127
>UN Convention
lol stop it, anon. I'll never get my sides back at this rate.
Lefist are fucking idiots.
They will ban Nazis because they killed groups of people, burned books, banned types of music, killed homos, etc.
Yet, they will let in Muslims who will do the same exact things to liberals.
Muslims will burn books, ban art, kill homos, etc
You lefist are fucking insane.
>>67868863
Name something genuinely useful the UN has done in the past 10 years other than writing angry letters telling countries how angry they are.
>>67867467
>Is Banning an entire religion of millions of people from coming into the US too far?
"""""""""""""""religion"""""""""""""""
Islam is a political ideology that contradicts anything different from it.
Stop being Islamophobephobe
I have yet to hear a liberal come with a good refutation of the following argument.
There are about 1,5 billion Muzzies in the world, m'kay.
Out of these 1,5 billion, lets say 20% are actual believers.
20% out of 1,5 billion is 300 million, k?
Out of these 300, lets say 10% are fundamentalists, like real hardcore Quran thumping zealots.
That's 30 million.
Out of these zealots there is 1% that are wiling to blow themselves up for ISIS, thats 300'000.
The liberal goes. "That's not much when accounting for 1,5 billion people."
Now you apply the real numbers.
Result, Liberals got BTFO.
>>67867467
>Isn't it against the constitution?
Yes, it is. But Trump voters are are often absurdly ignorant about the basic rules of their own country.
>>67869770
>They're not American citizens, nor have they even entered the country.
Irrelevant.
The First Amendment is a limitation to the action of Congress, and does not define to whom may or may not be applied.
Thus, the imperative "shall make no law" applies to legislative activity as a whole. Regardless of whether the law intends to deal with national or foreign citizens.
>>67867467
No
&
No
Besides, its only a temporary ban until we completely eradicate the terrorist group ISIS
>>67867467
We did it during FDR and he was considered the greatest president by most liberals
>>67867467
It's either against the constitution or against the spirit of it. This country no longer seems to value the constitution anymore; right or left
>>67874427
>expecting liberals to do even basic critical thinking
Stop it right there lad. They think they can just look at someone and know if they're a terrorist or not and deny them entry. They don't realise these people will just mingle with the masses and be indiscernible from normal Ackbars.
You tell them 300,00 out of 1.5 billion are bad apples and they'll say "why aren't we importing the 1.49 billion that are good then?".
>>67867467
>Muh duh, we can completely bond with the new culture and there won't be conflicts of sorts if we unite people with completely different cultures because diversity is intrinsically good.
Protip: it isn't. And you overestimate your ability to cope with culture shock.
More discussion here:
HOW MUCH DO LIBTARDS OVERESTIMATE THEIR ABILITY TO COPE WITH SHIT?
>>67874246
>>67867467
They were prohibited up until 1960, and we were just fine then.
>>67868269
Not really. I'm an immigrant from Easterm Europe and I'm studying to become a doctor. You just have to take a risk, because you take out a LOT of loans (about $350,000 worth).
>>67868024
1 of 2 -- I don't want those fucking niggers trying to be my doctor
>>67868024
2 of 2 -- again I don't want those fucking niggers trying to be my doctor
>>67869341
we need to regress because somewhere we took a step in the wrong direction, now its time to backtrack to what we know is a better solution. We will set the precedent for the world and lead by example.
>>67867467
>>67874616
>the US Constitution is meant to protect everyone in the world, not just Americans.
Leftists actually believe this, there is nothing unconstitutional about banning foriegn beings.
>>67874937
And to think my home city was 100% white before the Kosovan War.
>>67875049
Nice thumbnail abbo cunt
America can close the border and stop immigration anytime it wants. There is nothing unconstitutional abut it.
>>67867467
It sure isn't. They're not citizens? They have no rights. The Constitution is for Americans. Period.
>>67867467
>Is Banning an entire religion of millions of people from coming into the US not far enough?
I have fixed OP's question, now discuss and what would be better?
ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE SWORD NOT PACIFISM There is a slogan repeated continuously by apologetic “du’āt” when flirting with the West and that is their statement: “Islam is the religion of peace,” and they mean pacifism by the word peace. They have repeated this slogan so much to the extent that some of them alleged that Islam calls to permanent peace with kufr and the kāfirīn. How far is their claim from the truth, for Allah has revealed Islam to be the religion of the sword, and the evidence for this is so profuse that only a zindīq (heretic) would argue otherwise. ‘Alī Ibn Abī Tālib (radiyallāhu ‘anh) said, “Allah’s Messenger (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) was sent with four swords: a sword for the mushrikīn, {And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the mushrikīn wherever you find them} [At-Tawbah: 5], a sword for Ahlul-Kitāb, {Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Book – [fight them] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled} [At-Tawbah: 29], a sword for the munāfiqīn, {O Prophet, fight against the kuffār and the munāfiqīn} [At-Tawbah: 73], and a sword for the bughāt (rebellious aggressors), {Then fight against the group that commits baghy (aggression) until it returns to the ordinance of Allah} [Al-Hujurāt: 9]” [Tafsīr Ibn Kathīr]. He also revealed the sword against the apostates, {O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion – Allah will bring forth a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, mighty against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic} [Al-Mā’idah: 54].
>>67874490
>Irrelevant.
Tell that to the japanese immigrants in the US during WW2.
>>67868127
what the fuck can the UN do?
they told great britain and sweden to release assange from captivity and they just said "fuck off un"
>>67867467
Even if It's against Constitution, then you just change the fucking Constitution. Constitution serves the people, not the other way round. If a Constitution allows the destruction of the civilization It rules, It's time to modernize it, isn't it?
>>67870576
>lol im just banning immigrants from this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
it isn't all muslims
>>67869000
Nope, the constitution only applies to citizens.
>>67867467
gee well it's certainly hard to argue against an old jewish woman wearing the colors of israel and a jude star on her shirt. but why did they write salam instead of shalom on her shirt? are they suggesting fighting isis is essentially another lolocaust?
> The 2nd amendment never mentioned automatic weapons, you should only be allowed to own muskets because that's what the founders had when they wrote the constitution
> The constitution doesn't condone banning people whose religious extremism had them fly planes into skyscrapers, both things that are clearly enunciated in the constitution and existed at the time of its creation
too far? He isn't killing them, so it isn't far enough.
>>67868127
>get btfo of your claim that it's against the constitution
>muh UN
way to switch the goalposts
>mexican intellectuals
>>67868444
>implying islam is a race
Preaching to the choir here but have your guys noticed how this "I come in peace" crap is exclusive ONLY to islam? Because nothing shows peaceful intentions better than constant repetition of the same mantra whenever something happens. "A king who keeps telling that he is a king to his people is no king at all" (sorry for plebean quote).
>>67871057
>rounding up random tourists and shooting them would be fine and dandy by the US constitution
Yes, but we don't because it would be a hassle dealing with their county of origin(European/Aisan only)
>>67876471
The "Religion of Peace" meme has its origin in parody. There's also at least one false flag case of a man protesting as an explicit peaceful muslim who was later imprisoned for terrorist activity.
The non-barbarian Muslim Americans typically use the "not all Muslims" excuse when justifying when justifying inaction.
>>67867467
pic related
it's my OC, so save it.
>>67875049
Australian internet is so shit they can't even save full sized images
>>67868127
> UN convention
Holy shit, you can't make this up.
>>67868444
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx
>>67868863
Okay, now you're just baiting. No one here is THIS leftist.
>>67869341
literally buzzwords: the argument.
>>67869341
This is the true reason why Trump must not be allowed to act. JewSA has to give the correct example to Europe, at least till it's properly destroyed. The numbers for the US aren't really relevant any way.
>>67868127
Refugees also have to stop in the first safe country they arrive in they're not refugees
Everyone who advocates open borders and amnesty for illegal immigrants who have broken our law should be changed for treason for weakening our national security and threating our sovereignty.
