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Trump:
>China is getting a great deal here. It's awful. Their leaders are beating us all the time. I respect them because their leaders are smarter than ours. They win with this trade deal and we lose. The TPP is great for China and very bad for us.

Paul:
>May I point out that China isn't even a part of this trade deal?

Crickets
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>>55465454
He said China would sneak in through the back door three sentences before that
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>>55465454
>believing in the manletjew
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Outdone and outgrown by 6th graders
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>>55465496
This is the "epic stumping" we keep hearing about?
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Raise your hand if you are above 6"1
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>>55465778
pretty much, randlets jumping at anything that could possibly keep their husk of a candidate going
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>trumpshills doing it for free can't offer any argument so they spout memes
just another day
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Paul is in the driver's seat now.

He isn't as flashy as some in the field, but this race is about endurance and he has shown multiple times that he is willing to go all night
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>>55465678

You know Sally Poodleskirt pegged rand that night while achmed watched.
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>>55465454
>Paul:
>>May I point out that China isn't even a part of this trade deal?

May I point out that the deal will still directly benefit China by the rules laid out?
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>Trump hemorrhaging poll numbers to Carson
>both will soon be irrelevant
>Trump confirmed for Herman Cain Meme: 2016 edition
>Trump Stumped by Randal the Vandal
>Trump fags on suicide watch
>Come January, Trump will be on the Undercard debate
>final contenders will be Rand, Cruz, and Rubio

Tastes so sweet
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>>55465587
>>55465678
>>55465800
>utilizing ad hominem to circumvent the merits of the argument
1/10 at least be original next time
>>55466423
May I point out that you're still missing the point? The fact is what Trump said was wrong, quit trying to pull a rabbit out of the hat
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>>55466591
you are delusional
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>>55465454
China is getting a great deal.

TPP weakens every other country signing it by forcing them to follow U.S. law (and U.S. copyrights) while they can continue to ignore it.

It would be like fighting WWII by telling France and England they need to buy U.S. tanks and stop building their own.
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>>55465587
Ron wants to kill himself because his adult son is the same size as he was when he was nine
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>>55466722
Sure I am. And President Cain, polling the exact same as where Trump is now during 2012 sure showed me.
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>>55465955
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>3%
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>>55465454
Rand diagnosed with autism.
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>>55467041
I wish he just fucking explained that to him, but he kept acting all respectable and shit
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>>55467041
>Trump makes question about TPP about fucking China
>Spends the whole time talking about China and how the TPP does nothing to address China
>Literally 8 words in Trumps vocabulary, 6 of which are China
>Talks about how China benefits from the deal the most
>Rand points out China isn't even a part of the deal he was specifically asked about
>OHMYGOD GUISE I DIDNT SAY CHINA WAS APART OF THE DEAL ALL I DID WAS SPEND THE WHOLE TIME TALKING ABOUT CHINA BECAUSE I COULDN'T RELATE IT BACK TO MEXICO OHMYGOD TRIGGERED.

In my saaaaafe spaaaaaaace....
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>>55467041

China and Russia already got the TPP invite from Secretary Kerry recently:

>http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/21891-secretary-john-kerry-invites-russia-and-china-into-tpp

>ITT: Trump's right again, Randlet's butt-mad.
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>>55467041
you're the only one with autism
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>>55465454
Sometimes it feels like Trump is only running for president so that he can build the wall and lesser Chinas influence. Now you can make the argument that he is doing both for the good of his nation but truth be told I'm buying it.
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>>55466763
>It would be like fighting WWII by telling France and England they need to buy U.S. tanks and stop building their own.
With the way things are with NATO it seems that WW3 will be fought with only US planes. So you aren't far off
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>>55467187
>>55467222
The both of you have autism as well. You weren't listening to the moderator's cringy exchange with Rand.

>>55467172
Too honourable.
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>>55465496
>He said China would sneak in through the back door three sentences before that

The TPP is an end run around China, it is bad for China.

Trump is either pandering or stupid.
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>>55467213
This, to be quite honest.
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>>55466591
Yeah because Carson isnt Herman Cain 2.0 when he doesnt shut his mouth
>Grain silos
>Gets butthurt when confronted lying about military

Also
>Rand points out the obvious
>S-SEE R-RAND IS COMING BACK HE MAKES SENSE HE'LL STUMP TRUMP!

You remind of Webbfags

Wouldn't have been in none two digit percentage if he just stopped getting butthurt about Trump giving him bants
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>>55467615
>Wouldn't have been in none two digit percentage

wut
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>>55465496

Amazing the lengths you trump fags go to spin his idiocy.

what exactly is there to sneak into? He used china in the present tense meaning they are in the deal.
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>"C-couldn't be s-stumped!!" they said
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
>M-muh China!
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>>55467738
He would have a higher percentage in his polls, he would actually be relevant, he and Trump would actually agree on things and can compromise

Instead he fucked himself by marketing against Trump
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>>55467858
>He would have a higher percentage in his polls, he would actually be relevant, he and Trump would actually agree on things and can compromise

What language is this and does google translate have it as a feature. Holy fuck man. This reads like a 2nd grader's creative writing assignment.

>he will go to park with, he will have fun and on slide, he and dog can be friends all of the sometimes
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>>55468019
>I cant refute the central point of why he's polling 3% nationally, so I'll call his grammar poopoo!
Yeah its a Randlet alright
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>mfw abc news tried to say that Jeb Bush made a comeback last night despite being in last place in every poll after the debate
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>>55468083
What the fuck am I supposed to refute? Reading your posts is like trying to have an arguments with a bowl of fucking alphabits. I'm pushing shit together trying to form sentences and find an argument somewhere but all I'm getting is soggy cereal.
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>>55465955
Bernie vs Rand?
Bernie vs Rand.
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>>55468169
If you wanna keep whining about grammar and not understanding why Rand isn't hitting the big leagues, then go ahead, keep ignoring the central point

But then again this is someone who actually believes Rand will be relevant and Trump is somehow going to decline (Which is ironic considering the level Rand is in lel)
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>You can't benefit from something stupid that someone else does

Rand is kinda retarded.
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>>55468256
>But then again this is someone who actually believes Romney will be relevant and Herman Cain is somehow going to decline

Welcome to 2012
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>>55468117
>making fun of mentally ill hybrids

smdh tbqh
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>>55468364
>DUDE 2012 REPEAT LMAO

Thats nice, can you now explain how Trump will drop out with a scandal?
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>>55465941
trump has actual fans (see the polls)

rand has 3 shills, who are also his only 3 voters
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/664578302447902720

Nope Randfags you are more delusional than Berniefags and Trumpfags combined
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>>55467213
AHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

seriously its like reality conforms to Donald Trump

>illegal immigrants
>b..but thats racist
>european crisis

>CHina and TPP
>lol its not in it
>didnt say that but Kerry invited them anyway retard

Damn
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>>55468561

Trump plateaued two months ago. He's not going higher. He could win the Republican nomination if it stays this fractured. He cannot win the general.
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>>55469105
obama plateaued at less then 10% until the actual elections.
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>>55468681
>mexico is incompetent
>el chapo escapes
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>>55465454

This was Rand's 4th best moment in the debate in a debate where he did very well. (And let's face it - far more people watched the debate than will see Trump's tweet. Regardless of where you believe the truth is, Rand won this exchange in the court of public opinion.)

1. Rubio/Child Tax Credit/welfare transfer payments
2. Syria/No Fly Zone
3. Unlimited Military Spending/Fiscal Conservatism
4. Trump/TPP./China
5. Wealth inequality/Democratic cities and states
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>>55469225

And Clinton, in 1992, scored less than 3% in the Iowa Caucus, but went on to win the Democratic nomination and the Presidency.

So what does that say about the relevancy of polling at 3% or 25% this far out?
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Trump isn't entirely wrong though, the entire idea behind TPP is that it will help american business replace their most expensive employees with ones from china and india.

What a fucking joke Rand is.
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>>55468681
invited does not mean they are a part of
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>>55465496
you cant stump the trump
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>>55465587
total jew noses
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>>55469768
It means you watch the rallies and the crowd.

Trump will win this.
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>>55465454
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>>55465454
Rand Paul wins every debate tbqh family (shaking my head currently). Everyone should realize he is the candidate you need to debate Hillary. He will destroy her. Trump will just be a soft target for her finger pointing bullshit.
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>November 2015
>Being a trumpdump

I can smell your danks through the monitor.
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In trump we trust. He is this worlds "Trump" card against non white males.
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>>55470208

Nope. Maybe the Republican nomination, but he has zero chance in the general. He's pissing off everyone except white men, and you can't win an election that way in America anymore. Blacks are going 90% Democratic, that's a given. The Republican candidate needs at least 40% of the Latino vote. Trump is not going to get it.
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>>55470650
If Hillary gets elected you guys are screwed.
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>>55468251
Bernie To the White House.
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>>55467213
Regardless if they were invited at this stage the TPP has nothing to do with China.
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>>55470800

We're screwed either way. The question is, do we want the crisis to come quickly, or to kick the can down the road for as long as possible.
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>>55465955
weak OC
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>>55471175
tfw I made this last night
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>>55465454
As always, China will take advantage of any trade America has, they're like the new Jews
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>>55470650
Blacks don't come out to vote for a non-black at 90% retard.

Your assuming everyone in america votes.
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Rand really shined last night. If he can't hit at least 10% now then the world really is against him. Part of his problem is that fox news only wants to talk about rubio and jeb and every other msm network only wants to talk about Trump. Even christie has gotten more coverage than Rand.
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>>55470453
>said the kuckold who hates whites
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>>55465454
Damn I thought /pol/ moved on from the libertarian bullshit, Randlet fags go back to your cave, this is Trump's board now.
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Do Asian people ie. The "Chinese". Does every Asian have a certain amount of honor that they are born with? Does the honor scale fluctuate and is there such a thing as one.
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>Trumpbabies desperately trying to salvage the most retarded gaffe so far from any candidate
I don't think even Dubya was this bad
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>>55471809
Are you retarded?
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>>55471959
But it's right.
You hate whites if you don't vote for Trump.
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>>55465454
>berieving that china doesn't have sticky fingers in the TPP dearu
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>>55471530

No, I wasn't. Of the blacks who vote, 90% vote Democrat, in general. It was 95% for Obama. Voter turnout was something like 65% for Obama, and normally it's around 58%.

What I'm saying is, the black vote is off the table for any Republican. They're 15% of the population, meaning only 85% is up for grabs. 15% of that 85% is Latino, who despise Trump. IIRC, both George W Bush and Romney got 59% of the white vote. But Bush got 44% of the Latino vote and won while Romney only got 28% and lost. Trump can't get the Latino vote. He's going to lose the general, if he gets that far.
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>>55471831
yes lol. I actually thought China was part of the TPP
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>>55467445
>implying China won't just devalue their currency to stay competitive

Wow, it's like you were too busy blowing the midget to hear what Trump had to say
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>>55472063
Look at your lord and savior Trump, the guy dumps a gallon of orange tan lotion on himself every day because he hates his own white complexion.
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Rand and trump are both fakes.
Rand sold out his dad. What would he do to America?

As for Trump, Who cares about trump aka the plant?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

Trump is a meme. He's losing his steam because he has no viability.

Mr. Trump, can you explain how you would approach x, y and z?
Trump: let me tell you, I would make America great again by building a wall that will be free and because I run a successful business and let me tell you I am worth billions. Look at all the polls they say I bring in the ratings because I make deals. Let me tell you China and Mexico are sneaky and robbing us blind, but I will make deals and America will be great again and let me tell you my favorite book is the bible.

Mr. Trump, which book of the bible do you prefer?

Trump: ummm, well, hmmmm, I like them all equally because I will make America great again.

The guy raped his ex-wife and paid her to backtrack. What a disgusting pig.
What a pandering idiot this fat piece of rich shit is. He is fake. A fake conservative. Know who is real?

Jeb Bush.

Who can fix this nation?
Jeb can fix it!
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>>55468117
i want to motorboat dem big asian tiddies
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>>55467213
and they turned it down you kek
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>>55468117
I'd unleash her American dreams n'am sayin'
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>>55472273
>he hates his own white complexion.
What does that have to do with removing illegals, kuckold?
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>>55470453
>It is literally this month and year!
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>>55472426
Means you're a dumb faggot that changes subjects.
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>>55472174
It's funny reading posts by retards

Trump will get 30% of the Hispanic vote. The only Hispanics who are relevant are Cubans, who will go 2/3 for the Republicans. California and New Mexico would be Democrat either way, Texas and Arizona Republican either way.

The main reason you're a retard is that you clearly know nothing and take the media's word for truth. Some of your fucking percentages don't even make sense, and it was only 62% who voted in 2008 and 58% in 2012.

Also

>blacks will only vote for a black

Again, you're a retard. Blacks have a hugely favorable view of Trump, he will get 30% of them. This means he will win in Pennsylvania and Michigan and therefore he will have about 300 electoral votes in the general election. Trump talks about BRINGING BACK THE JOBS. Guess who doesn't have jobs, whose jobs were sent overseas (Detroit) and who wants them to come back? Black people.

Also Romney didn't win the right kind of white people, he lost among working class whites but succeeded overwhelmingly among white middle class men. Trump will win the working class whites and the middle class whites.
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>>55472539
But I didn't.
If you don't vote for Trump, you hate whites.
Trump wants to remove illegals and degenerates.
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>>55472174
>implying all latinos hate Trump
Not all latinos hate Trump since the only ones that do are mexicans plus the majority of people voted for Romney because he is not Obongo
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I don't think he got Trump with that but he blatantly did better than everyone last night. Obviously Fox is saying Rubio won...for some reason
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>>55465454
see this
>>55472776
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>>55472549
>Trump will get 30% of the Hispanic vote. The only Hispanics who are relevant are Cubans, who will go 2/3 for the Republicans. California and New Mexico would be Democrat either way, Texas and Arizona Republican either way.
>The main reason you're a retard is that you clearly know nothing and take the media's word for truth. Some of your fucking percentages don't even make sense, and

Cubans vote in every election. They vote Republican in every election. You're not pointing out a new source of votes.

>it was only 62% who voted in 2008 and 58% in 2012.

OK. That's why I put IIRC.

>>blacks will only vote for a black

I didn't say that. I said 90% of blacks vote Democrat.

>Again, you're a retard. Blacks have a hugely favorable view of Trump, he will get 30% of them.

There is absolutely no evidence of that in any poll that I've seen. So if you're not making shit up, post a source.

>This means he will win in Pennsylvania and Michigan and therefore he will have about 300 electoral votes in the general election. Trump talks about BRINGING BACK THE JOBS. Guess who doesn't have jobs, whose jobs were sent overseas (Detroit) and who wants them to come back? Black people.

Every candidate says they're going to create jobs. Even the Democrats. You Trump idiots believe anything he says. You are literally the Obama voters of the right.

>Also Romney didn't win the right kind of white people, he lost among working class whites but succeeded overwhelmingly among white middle class men. Trump will win the working class whites and the middle class whites.

Trump will do this, Trump will do that. Because he says so and you believe him.
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>>55472549
>Blacks have a hugely favorable view of Trump, he will get 30% of them.

Poll is from 10/29 - 11/2
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us11042015_xsq33a.pdf
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>>55473690
there's no way he's as low as 6% and Hillary as high as 91%, even both Dennis Rodman and Mike Tyson have endorsed him.

either their sampling was highly suspect, or they only asked liberal college students. the working black man likes Trump.
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>>55473895

Keep living in denial. Just ignore his very high negative net favorability outside of the Republican party.
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>>55465454
Except those were no crickets tho. Rand continued to filibuster the cut to commercial music after that. He showed his testicles last night, my men. Rand "Pimp Daddy" Paul is back and ready with zingers on every finger, baby.
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>>55473690
>Implying Hillary will get republican voters
This poll is rigged since no republican will vote for Hillary considering Hillary said herself that the republican party is her biggest enemy
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>>55473690
Also can you give me the source and sample size for that poll
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>>55474413
I already posted the link. >>55473690


>From October 29 – November 2, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,144 registered voters nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 2.9 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones. The survey includes 502 Republicans with a margin of error of +/- 4.4 percentage points and 480 Democrats with a margin of error of +/- 4.5 percentage points.
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>>55474269

There are always 5% - 12% crossovers. Happens every election and it goes both ways. Some of them will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman. Some will abandon Trump because of his immigration stance, or because they're free traders.
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>>55467845
>Trump: The TPP is horrible deal. It is a deal that is going to lead to nothing but trouble. It’s a deal that was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone.

You appear to have poor listening skills Randlets!
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>>55465454
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/11/trump-was-right-about-tpp-benefitting-china/
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>>55467848
yes please reference more kike influenced media that tells us to just swallow after face fucking all of us, man I hate people like you, please eat about 9mm's of lead and call me in the morning.
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>>55474785
I don't I personally think its too early to judge who will win because hell maybe Bernie can get the nomination or Trump does something stupid that loses him the nomination or hell Trump becomes more favorable

There are many unpredictable elements that may change the election cycle
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>>55465454
China enters later. Chinese do not understand the concept of legality. They have believed that power is its own justification continuously from the Shang to the present.
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>>55465454
More liek:
Paul:
>May I point out that China isn't even a part of this trade deal?

>Commercial

Rand lost most of our support before Trump was ever a factor with his minority pandering, amnesty okaying, tpp flip-flopping faggotry.
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>>55465454
TRUMP STATUS: STUMPED

STAND BY RAND

IT IS FINALLY HAPPENING!!! RAND PAUL 2016
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>>55472307
NICE COPYPASTA BRO!
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>>55476285
MAKE ME, RANDFAG
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>>55467213
>invited
>equal to being part of it
>even equal to be interested in it
Daily reminder that Trumpfags can't even into basic logic
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>>55470279
>>55470279
>>55470279
>>55470279
>>55470279
Reply to this Randlets
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STAND WITH RAND

Sorry trump had to be the sacrificial piece but thats the way we knew it was going to happen
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>>55470279
That article it's literally explaining the mitigations to stop non signatory countries from "getting through the back door"
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>>55472273
He hates whites, he wants to restore America to it's "judean roots"
Or are you implying jews are whites?
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>>55465454
Yeah, because if China isn't part of this deal obviously they have no impact on what happens in Asian trade... this was just a stupid as fuck statement.
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>>55465454
Paul needs to stop snipping out bits of his hair. His hair looks like an afterthought and his preoccupation with his non-professional grooming is a little weird.

Like his black tennis shoe wearing Dad.

Hey wait, why aren't he and his Dad holding office in the same state? Opportunist?
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>>55476429
don't you have a wall to build Trump dump?
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>>55476758
>Hey wait, why aren't he and his Dad holding office in the same state? Opportunist?

You do know that Ron retired, right? And Rand left Texas many years before Ron's ran for President in 2007.
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>>55476758
>Like his black tennis shoe wearing Dad.
He's a doctor, see >>55474450
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Randlet shills out in full force today.
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>>55465454
Can someone post the picture of Rand Paul that says he will make anime real?
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>>55477115
There's a Rand version? I only know of the Ron version
Why would anyone taint the sacredness of that statement with Rand?
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>>55477177
I thought there was one for Rand as well. I could have sworn I saw one.
Nice dubs btw.
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>>55465587
>being shorter than your 80 year old father

Is Ron's wife <5 foot?
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>>55477219
>Nice dubs btw.

So, I take it you're not yet old enough to vote.
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>>55465454

Trump fags trying to save trump. Rand needs no defense. We saw what happened live. Trump was lost. Defending rand is unnecessary because everyone will eventually stand with rand
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>>55468117
who is this girl?
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>>55477275
I am 23 m8.
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Paul/Paul 2016
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>>55477332
This much of what Trump said last night was cringeworthy esp. Foreign policy. It's only time public sees him as the clueless blowhard that he is.
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>>55477069
Yesterday too.
He could have had what Trump has, instead he went full Bernie on immigration.
He's the kind of guy that would go full McCain trying to jump over himself showing his love of minorities in a loaded question, and hand over the election.
pic related.
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>>55477491
That one on the right... holy fuck I jizzed.
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>>55467845

No, you illiterate, he said
>China is getting a great deal here
>They win with this trade deal and we lose
>The TPP is great for China and very bad for us

NOWHERE does that say China is in the trade deal, it just says that they benefit from it, which they unquestionably do because it further weakens America, and they will be able to come in by the backdoor a few years down the road when the spotlight is elsewhere.

This is even more retarded than the "he's gone bankrupt four times!" meme.
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>>55467845
Back door.. as in, they won't be part of the deal but they'll use countries that are part of it and in their sphere of influence to access the rest of the countries in the deal. China can be the supply chain for Malaysian plants that do minimal value addition.
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>>55477579
>He could have had what Trump has, instead he went full Bernie on immigration.
But he hasn't, fuck off shill
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>>55477655
>Back door.. as in, they won't be part of the deal but they'll use countries that are part of it and in their sphere of influence to access the rest of the countries in the deal. China can be the supply chain for Malaysian plants that do minimal value addition.
TPP has provisions against this m8
Trump has little if any idea of what he's talking about
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>>55477641
All of you Trumpboos are dumb as fuck, Rand said this for the sole purpose of stumping Trump and it worked. He didnt care if in reality it benefited China or not
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>>55465454
Reminder that Trump was speechless and could not respond to Paul, as in he actually thought China was part of the deal.
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>>55477676
But he does support amnesty, oh I'm sorry, he doesn't like that word, he supports a Path to Citizenship process that keeps your criminals here while they are processed instead of deporting them and just continuing to process the legal applicants.

>>55477742
But if Rand was wrong how was Trump stumped?

>>55477973
tfw retards will believe this and even actively argue it and not watch themselves.
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>>55478231
>tfw retards will believe this and even actively argue it and not watch themselves.
If it was a misunderstanding, why didn't Trump correct them?
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>>55478231
>But he does support amnesty, oh I'm sorry, he doesn't like that word, he supports a Path to Citizenship process that keeps your criminals here while they are processed instead of deporting them and just continuing to process the legal applicants.
That's not amnesty, and he supports an immigration reform
Also, his main priority it's securing the border, just like Trump's
>but it's not my meme candidate then it's wrong!
>>55478268
Because he had to take time to think and then tweet about the issue :^)
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>>55477579
>Americans miss that attitude. Miss that brutal honesty.

Except, outside of his blind followers, when it comes to honesty, voters view Trump as being on par with Hillary and Christie.
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>>55472511
>11111011111
>not knowing about ishygddt
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>>55465454
>Is he back?

Fuck yes he's back.
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>>55465496

CHINA ISN'T PART OF THE TRADE DEAL YOU LOUDMOUTHED DUMB FUCK
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>>55468117

who is this seminal devil?
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>>55465454
HAHAHA voting for a fucking MIDGET

the guy is 5'2"

ROFL!!!
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>>55478493
I'm 5'4

Manlet uprising 2016
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>2015
>voting for a 4'9" dwarf
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>>55465454
>https://theintercept.com/2015/11/11/trump-was-right-about-tpp-benefitting-china/


KEKLETS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

RAND CONFIRMED SUICIDE WATCH
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>>55477491
not even Rands cardboard cutout is alpha enough to look confident and put his arms around women
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>>55465778
I know, le ebin stumping was shilled hardcore last night
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>>55467845
I have zero intention of voting for Trump and even I realize the TPP opens the door for China. Once it is in place, China can join the agreement with relative ease and there is nothing Congress could do about it short of abrogation.
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>>55478558
See>>55478268
It took him a while to come up with an excuse and tweet it.
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BIG
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>>55465454
Does it really matter why Trump opposes TPP? He's against it and that's all that matters.
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>>55465496
>He said China would sneak in through the back door three sentences before that

Isn't this folding because the competing trade deal they want isn't going to happen?

If they are last in the door, how are they winning with this trade deal and how is it bad for us? Trump got owned, it happens
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>>55478333
>halting deportation
>making a process for which illegals can become citizens en masse instead
>not amnesty

Then what is?
You realize there is paperwork involved in people becoming citizens correct?
Amnesty isn't declaring everyone a citizen over a loudspeaker.

Any border security is worthless after that is done, the left will have their fortified voting bloc and will just open the borders after the Great Disarming.

That said, worry about your own country, you'll just bring down your only salvation from the syndicate running your government if you spread your caustic bullshit here.
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>>55478231
>But if Rand was wrong how was Trump stumped?

Rand won in the court of public opinion. Aside from the debate itself, where Trump failed to defend himself, there are articles all over the internet declaring that Trump was either wrong or misleading.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-rand-paul-trump-china-trade-deal-20151110-htmlstory.html

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-fact-check-republican-debate-032854138.html

http://theweek.com/articles/588216/why-rand-paul-stealth-winner-gop-debate

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rand-paul-gop-debate-milwaukee_5642dbbbe4b060377346ef28

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/rand-paul-fact-checks-trump-china-isnt

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/rand-paul-debate-commercial-break

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rand-paul-donald-trump_5642b260e4b060377346eaee

And they go on and on. Trump has flat out lost this exchange.
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>>55478953
Rand has never said
>making a process for which illegals can become citizens en masse instead
Stop twisting his words
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>deportation force
It sounds like the setting to a "dark and gritty" teen novel. inb4 Orwellian/cyberpunk future with a vastly brain-dead population and those few that stay sane and say shit like "if we've got nothing, we've got each other."
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Trump is just going to call Rand a manlet loser and everyone will just forget this ever happened.
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>>55479326
That's literally the present senpai, it just needs the deportation force
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>>55479695
Heil Shitlery !
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>>55472307
>A fake conservative. Know who is real?

>Jeb Bush
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>>55479263
Can you tell me what his path to citizenship is in his own words?
All he's done is imply implications (those implications being exactly what I described) and say dems and repubs need to work together.
He'd been trying to bridge the gap all along, and his heart may be in the right place for all I know, but he isn't battling the opinions of his countrymen, he is battling the pawns of corporate thinktanks, a bought media, and a corrupt political system.
He is playing softball against those while perpetuating infighting at a time when an increasingly disillusioned people want to burn down the establishment.
He and Trump should have teamed up all along but he'd rather paint Trump as "one of them" all while grinning and signing us up for the TPP, this is what caused his main support to leave him in the first place and he has yet to so much as offer an excuse for it.
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http://nation.foxnews.com/poll/2015/11/10/which-candidate-do-think-will-win-main-gop-debate-tonight/

http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/question/who-won-fourth-republican-debate-fox-business-network

http://nation.foxnews.com/poll/2015/11/11/who-won-prime-time-gop-primary-debate-in-milwaukee/

Rand is winning in these polls. There are more where he is winning, but these are the ones K got right now.
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>>55479535

You hope.

But, I agree. This wasn't a big deal. Rand's more important moments were slamming Rubio's welfare scheme, the Syria-No Fly Zone point, and the unlimited military spending point.
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>>55480093

Internet polls don't mean much. Ron Paul won damn near every single internet poll in 2008, and 75% of the straw polls, as well. But he only ended up with 6% (or thereabouts) in the actual election, which is exactly where the real polls put him.

We won't find out for a week what the impact of the debate was. But, I suspect Rand will get a significant bump and Trump will be flat.
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>>55480337
True. I'm not even saying those are necessarily correct poll numbers, but they set a precedent of Rand Paul rising.
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>>55477742
>Randlets spam the catalog last night arguing over basically nothing because they are incapable of following a conversation just like Randlet himself
>Get proven wrong
>Now have to make up an epic plot line about how he was only pretending to be retarded
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READ THE DEAL YOU DUMB SHILL
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>>55479025
In all fairness, the media's been out for Trump for a little while now. Remember the Iowa polls? It's not really anything new for him.
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>>55468117
Who is this liberty tiddie
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>>55480759
Read the deal you dumb shill
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>>55469669
Honestly I think he botched the wealth inequality question. I alos feel like he could have really hammered on the isolationist stuff. He let Rubio get the final word to a round of applause. He needed to come back and full court press like his dad did. Ron never backed down on issues like that. He always took it to its logical conclusion. Maybe it is advantageous with the Republican base, but it doesn't garner the fervent support his father had from those willing to crash caucuses and stump for him 24-7.
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the Randlet is still mad about getting g ready in a closet ahead of the last debate. Stay mad Rand, stay mad.
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>>55471617
Authoritarians fuck off. Trump got BTFO. It is insanity to seriously act like you can deport 11 million people.
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>>55478558
Please. The TPP and TTIP are nothing more than geopolitical tools to isolate Russia and China. That homo Greenwald and spout whatever he wants, those trade agreements are big CFR/BIlderberg dildoes going right up China and Russias asses.
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>>55465978
>you will never be pegged by sally poodleskirt

Why live
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>>55482139

He could have gone further with the wealth inequality question. Like, he could have pointed out that CEO pay got really out of control after a Clinton administration rule took effect which started taxing CEO pay over a certain amount, so businesses started granting stock options instead.
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>>55466948
If you seriously think Rand Paul is going to be president, you are in fact delusional.
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>>55465587
>people seriously make fun of people who are shorter than them like they aren't smarter than you
A short guy has to make up for his height in either muscle or smarts and I don't see Rand pumping iron
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