https://theintercept.com/2015/11/11/trump-was-right-about-tpp-benefitting-china/
>Donald Trump lambasted the Trans-Pacific Partnership at Tuesday night’s Republican presidential debate, contending that China would use it to “take advantage of everyone” – generating snickers from journalists and a withering refutation from Rand Paul, who said “we might want to point out that China is not part of this deal.”
>But Trump never suggested that China was part of the TPP, only that they would “come in, as they always do, through the back door” of the agreement. And he was right.
>The TPP does indeed allow China and other non-members to reap benefits from the deal without having to abide by any of its terms.
>Here’s how it works: TPP and other free trade deals allow signatories to exchange goods without tariffs. But we live in a complicated world, with source materials derived from one country often traveling through a supply chain to another and completed in a third before moving to a retail market.
[Damage Control Intensifies]
Can't stump
Stick it where it fits RAND!!! YOU GOD DAMN SHORT HAIR PRICK!!!
TPP is bad for everyone.
Trump mentioned a few moments before Paul's reply that he knew China is not part of the TPP. "It's a deal that was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone."
And he is correct, currency manipulation wasn't addressed in the deal.
Trump has yet to be stumped
SPIN SPIN SPIN!!!
>>55473007
This
Plus Trump has not made a comeback since he knows Paul wouldn't win the nomination due to his father
Where were you when randlets got stumped
AGAIN
>>55472776
Of course. The man knows business, TPP is a business deal.
>>55472776
RANDLETS BTFO
PAUL ON SUICIDE WATCH
what a disingenuous bastard
Trump is literally always right.
>He called Iraq
>He called the rest of the middle east
>He called the migrant crisis
>He called the housing bubble in the 80's
>Now calling the TTP
Randlets broken and in tears kek
>>55473471
I think I have a theory that Trump knew all this because his future self came back in time to the 80's to tell them this and told Trump to be close to the Clintons then Trump could get knowledge of them so he could prevent Hillary from becoming president which is why he entered the presidency this year
>Randlets on suicide watch
Build Wall!
>Randlet actually thought he could stump the Trump
![ron-paul[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vSqIIkB.jpg "ron-paul[2].jpg")
>>55473611
>>55473840
That's so sad.
>>55472855
wont stump
>>55472776
stumped
rand should really stop trying to stump and just team up with him. rand is a smart guy and trump likes smart guys.
>>55473840
Why's he wearing those comfy shoes with that suit? Is that acceptable here? What the hell have I been doing with my life?
RANDLETS BTFO
That was nice of Mr Trump to let Rand get a cute little zinger in.
They both did well last night.
>>55474098
both pauls have particularly weird choices in footwear
Its because their doctors, who near non-slip orthopedic footwear
Also the randlet needs his 2 inch lifts to stand near other politicians
>Trump 6'2
>Melina Trump 5'11
>Eric Trump 6'5
>ivanka 5'11
>Don jr 6'1
Image the clinton/Trump photoshoot but with the pauls instead.....
even ron is only as tall as his wife/daughter, and thats without them wearing heels....
TPP is just a much larger NAFTA. Is no bueno.
>>55472776
Well no shit good sir.
Did people really not expect them to leave loopholes you could shove planets through in the TPP as long as it made more shekels?
>>55474639
Blah blah fucking blah....
You retarded fucks need to stop shilling for the Hillary plant on here. Take your dumb ads bullshit back to kikechan.
We support Rand here. Always have, always will.
Shove your meme candidate up your fat ass.
>Muh wall
>Muh Mexico
>Muh China
>Muh deals
Fuck off with your unelectable obese fake conservative.
Fat fucks like Trump can't even take care of their own bodies, how can they take care of an entire nation?
Not to mention Trump promises to save Israel, whatever the Fuck that means. Let's see his fat ass on the frontlines along with his faggot son.
He declared bankruptcy many times and screwed over his investors, who lost billions so that he could avoid debt. What a fucking scamming piece of shit.
Fuck him and Fuck all of you Trump shills.
>>55475431
> Take your dumb ads bullshit back to kikechan.
>>55475507
Ads was autocorrection thanks to android.
Anyway, rand supports Israel, whereas trump has promised to save Israel. SAVE. Hope you like guns, faggot, because trump will have you over saving them. Trump is the male version of Carly.
>>55472776
Trump shills on serious damage control
>>55475711
>implying randlet the manlet wouldn't go to war for israel, let alone any candidate
>>55475734
This.
So much buttblast.
>>55475774
Rand isn't a warmonger like Trump is, faggot. He is more like his dad.
>>55475431
Cry more faggot
>>55475431
>We have always supported Rand
Why would you tell lies? What's the point?
>>55476420
New here, faggot?
Before you Trump shills and the Bernie shills invaded, it was nothing but Rand around here.
You need to go back to reddit and kikechan where you came from.
>>55476519
Do you really want me to dump the archive on you?
>>55475734
>>55475798
>crybaby randlets are out of responses either then
>m-muh shills
>haha d-damage control, Rand wans't wrong (except he was)
I agree with Rand Paul over Trump, but Trump is right on this.
>>55473007
>"It's a deal that was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone."
The TPP it's literally made to isolate China
>>55472776
>filed bakruptcy
>says the death of america is in part from offshoring and outsourcing jobs
>outsources jobs
>"but he has to do it to stay competitive"
>oh so since everyone else is unpatriotic and non-protectionist, it's okay for him to be the same and not care about domestic jobs
>"did you know he cares about domestic jobs?"
I'm not concluded yet whether or not the trump threads are made by shills, or by people that are of the same level of intellect of college students that are simply contrarion and don't want to vote liberal like all of their frat friends.
>>55476655
>Rand is so insignificant I had to put out a tweet lying *cough* I mean clarifying my thoughts on TPP. I was totally talking about the backdoor!
>>55476822
>I'm not concluded yet whether or not the trump threads are made by shills, or by people that are of the same level of intellect of college students that are simply contrarion and don't want to vote liberal like all of their frat friends.
Modern shilling isn't about contracting people to post, but to get useful idiots to do it for you, that's why meme campaigns are so successful
>>55474257
Tremendous performances, they both did very well.
>>55475431
>5'8"
>>55476829
did you actually watch the debate manlet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTl230M4X8
>question about pacific trade
>never says china part of the TPP
>says they are our most abusive trade partner in the pacific (which is true)
>Rand jews out and twists words
You can't *cough* your way out of Rand being completely wrong
>>55477065
290
Kek
>>55477124
>3%
>>55477158
>....
Well played.
>>55473471
He called 9/11
>>55477080
TPP has been made to isolate China and non signatory countries, there's provisions in the deal to stop countries from "getting through the backdoor"
>>55477298
haha you used them in your own post>>55475431
Or are the tears clouding your vision?
haha holy shit all this randlet butthurt is like an early christmas, and i haven't even brought up my favorite thing yet
lets talk about randlets book....
>Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s new book, released on Oct. 20, has sold fewer than 500 copies, according to numbers from Nielsen BookScan.
>Paul’s book, Our Presidents & Their Prayers, a 36,000-word account about the faith of U.S. presidents, had only sold 80 copies in the first six days, according to the BookScan numbers. Today the number of sales for Paul’s book stands at 440 through Sunday, according to sources with access to the numbers.
>Outside of Jeb Bush, there hasn’t been a bigger disaster of a 2016 Republican presidential campaign than Sen. Rand Paul. Their heir to the Paul presidential campaign business has never been able to recover from the double whammy of constant flip-flops and the rise of the outsider candidates.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/05/rand-pauls-book-bombs-selling-500-copies-weeks.html
Compared to Jeb
440 copies
440
4
0
Meanwhile, Trump and Carson are bestsellers
>>55477377
While this is true, remember that the supply chain of nearly every product in America has slaves in it at one point or another.
>>55475431
Rand is no Ron.
NOT STUMPED
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It's sad that these Trump interns turn here for support. Nobody who is actually old enough to vote cares about your shitty meme candidate. Hats off to Lil Rand for exposing Trump for being completely out of his depth in this race.
>>55477658
What the fuck are you on about?
>>55477516
>being a successful author qualifies one to be president
>>55477658
>all these buttblasted manlets
Holy shit, i hope this keeps going for months
>>55477705
You slow or what? /pol/ has been infest with paid Trump interns for months. Same way Bernie shills are all over Reddit.
>>55476816
Bad pickup lines are designed to isolate a woman from her panties but that doesn't mean it ends up working that way.
>ITT shills shilling shills shilling shills
>>55477768
At least we aren't getting the Hillary shills like last year, they really did put effort on that one
>>55477768
You wish
>>55477768
>paid
>interns
What the fuck are you on about?
>>55477835
Interns can be paid senpai, not usual nowadays though
>>55472776
The almighty emperor is always right.
The chinese are the new jews and should not be trusted
>>55477743
its a decent reflection of public interest
Look at Carson and Trump
Healing hands and Crippled America are neck and neck with thousands of sales in the first day, both becoming best sellers
Rising to the challenge-Fiorinas book- has seen mid range sales far behind the frontrunners
Rubios book americans dreams is just above Fiorinas, but not is rated one of the worst of any candidates
you have a large power gap, and then we get to the little randlet
>440
its shows how much the public is interested in him and his terrible policies
His last book, government bullies, also totally flopped
No one likes the libertarian manlet :^(
>>55475431
>>55475734
Rand is a libertarian who panders to conservatives but serves corporations.
> muh small government
> muh evil government
He would be naive to think China doesn't scare the hell out of most of those countries in the area. China is being built as security for the new world order.
>>55478074
>Healing hands and Crippled America are neck and neck with thousands of sales in the first day, both becoming best sellers
Both of those have been shilled incessantly by the mainstream media
Anything related to the Paul family is always slided
>its shows how much the public is interested in him and his terrible policies
He supports securing the border, and considers it a priority, just like Trump
I guess part of Trump's policies are terrible then too
Fuck off shill
>>55478106
Ok, that was kinda funny, you nigger lovin, trump lovin, faggot
OP, you're wasting your time. The Manlet shills know Trump is right, but their curly headed fuck said something last night and the crowd clapped because they too don't know anything about the TPP.
Regardless, the Trump was not stumped.
That crowd was fucking stupid, they clapped when Kasich said we couldn't deport 11 million people. Obviously that crowd was pro - establishment.
Rand is a sad little man
>>55478283
Do you know that the TPP contains provisions to stop what Trump says will happen? TPP is designed around isolating China
>That crowd was fucking stupid, they clapped when Kasich said we couldn't deport 11 million people. Obviously that crowd was pro - establishment.
The crowd is literally told when to applaud senpai
>>55478203
>Anything related to the Paul family is always slided
Bullshit
Every time he was on the news last month he would shill for his book, its not his fault that no one is watching him.
Its not a media conspiracy like with his father, they don't have to do anything; already no one cares about the randlet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqpJMlvZQlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11eczNceeyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPnWsWbP6NQ
>>55478203
>He supports securing the border, and considers it a priority, just like Trump
he also supports amnesty and a pathway to citizenship, so he is nothing like trump
I can see why you spics would shill for him
>>55478283
>Kasich said we couldn't deport 11 million people
Kasich confirmed for holocaust denier.
>>55472776
cant stump the Trump
>>55477377
There's not, there's loopholes everywhere.
Did you even read the article?
>>55472776
Posting some important bits for those too lazy to follow a link.
>TPP says that all materials that go into a good, outside of a de minimis 10 percent, must derive from TPP countries. However, there are numerous exceptions and exemptions, along with a confusing set of calculations to determine eligibility. Through these cracks in the agreement, as Trump alluded, China can deliver goods to TPP countries without tariffs.
>Right now, the U.S. reserves the right to slap large tariffs on China, as it has done on steel (up to 236 percent), solar panels (up to 78 percent) and tires (up to 88 percent). But under TPP, many products, from agriculture to chemicals to plastics to leather seating, can include up to 60 percent of material from a non-TPP country.
>Each product has a specific rule of origin that sets the level of non-TPP material that can be incorporated in a good. The chapter designating which products require which percentages only lists numbers instead of product names, which have to be converted using the international Harmonized Schedule of tariffs.
>Green tea, 0902.10 on the Harmonized Schedule, can have a “regional value content” — meaning content from TPP countries — of not less than 40 percent. But that doesn’t mean 40 percent of the content; it means 40 percent of the value of the material, which takes into account shipping, processing, and many other variables. While the final calculations must follow basic accounting principles, they will be by definition inexact, so even more than 60 percent of a good, in reality, could come out of a non-TPP member like China.
(cont.)
>>55472844
pretty much
Trump couldn't defend himself.
Needs help fast,
>>55476822
>frat friends
lol, it tells a lot about you that that's your go-to boogeyman
>>55478444
>he also supports amnesty and a pathway to citizenship, so he is nothing like trump
Trump supports legal immigration, just like Rand
Rand doesn't support amnesty, stop twisting his words fucking shill
The only difference between Rand and Trump immigration policy it's that Rand doesn't believes outright deporting everyone will work
>>55478424
>TPP is designed around isolating China
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/21891-secretary-john-kerry-invites-russia-and-china-into-tpp
>>55478491
i guessing you can't read or chose not too?
the randlet was wrong, hes fucked
Hopefully he'll take the honorable way out instead of embarrassing himself further
>>55478424
I don't care if English isn't your first language, you don't get to skip reading the article and then tell lies.
>>55472776
>Weak rules of origin are most clearly seen in auto production, which has its own special “net cost” method of calculating rule of origin. As Teamsters President James Hoffa has pointed out, while under NAFTA 62.5 percent of a car had to be made in a member country, with TPP that number goes down to 45 percent. An additional schedule of other parts would be considered as coming from a TPP country regardless of its origins, lowering the rule of origin to as much as 35 percent. A car could even be labeled “Made in America,” despite having the majority of its parts originating from China. That includes Chinese steel, currently subject to massive tariffs for U.S. import.
>Rules of origin for textiles are allegedly more stringent, but they include a “short supply” list, allowing TPP countries to get their materials from non-TPP nations if they are in short supply within the TPP zone. This includes nearly 200 different fabrics, even certain types of cottons, any of which could come from China and get preferential tariff treatment.
>There are also loopholes available. Take for instance Article 3.6, “Materials Used in Production.” This says that, if non-originating material undergoes further production in an originating country, then that material would be treated as originating. So you can imagine a disassembled Chinese product, shipped to Vietnam, put on a production line for completion, and delivered tariff-free to the United States.
>>55478481
>>55478613
Forgot to quote my first post.
>>55478545
>Rand doesn't support amnesty, stop twisting his words fucking shill
yes, he does.
WASHINGTON — Republican Sen. Rand Paul said Tuesday that illegal immigrants should be allowed to become U.S. taxpayers and ultimately get a shot at citizenship, a significant step for the Tea Party favorite amid growing Republican acceptance of the idea.
>"Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport" the millions already here, the potential 2016 presidential candidate told the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. "Prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into becoming and being taxpaying members of society."
stop lying nigger
>>55476519
>>55476519
>nothing but Rand
You are confusinh Rand but his father. We've always held much less respect for Rand, in general we disagreed with his fundamentals and always asked why couldn't he be more like his father. Libertarians, please leave.
>>55478744
rand is such a fucking kuck
>>55478744
>quoting biased newspapers
ayylmao
>http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Rand_Paul_Immigration.htm
>Q: Does a "pathway to citizenship" mean amnesty in your book?
>PAUL: I think that that's the whole point: What is amnesty? Because, [for those who say] "no deportation and no amnesty," well, if you're not going to deport people you are somehow changing the current law because the current law says everybody must go.
>Q: But you've said that the party should give up this word "amnesty"?
>PAUL: I think we need to get beyond it. We need some form of immigration reform.
>Q: And a path to citizenship?
>PAUL: Well, the path to citizenship is a longer, more difficult goal.
>Q: But you don't rule it out as an end game?
>PAUL: What I would say is that at this point in time I don't think any type of immigration reform will get out of Washington that includes a path to citizenship. But I do think that there is a path to a secure border and an expanded work visa program.
>>55479028
>inb4 they will be citizens under the visa program
The expanded visa program is quite wrong, but it doesn't imply citizenship, Rand explicitly says this
> Q:On immigration, you call your plan for creating a legal status--not citizenship, but a legal status--for the 11 million folks who are already here. But you oppose the E-verify system which would make it easier for employers to check whether their workers are legal or illegal. Why?
>PAUL: Well, that's not the main part of my plan. The main part of my plan is trust but verify, that says we have to have border security. The amendment that I will add to the bipartisan plan will ensure that there is border security and that Congress gets to vote on that border security every year, in order for it to go forward. With regard to E-verify, it's not that I'm opposed to some sort of database check. For example, when you come into the country, I think the country should do a background check on you to find out if you are a felon or if there's a problem. So I'm not against any kind of checking, I just would prefer the government to be the policeman and not the businessman.
He even dismisses citizenship for illegal immigrants
> Dr. Paul does not support amnesty. Those who come here should respect our laws. Dr. Paul supports legal immigration and recognizes that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves.
Just like memeTrump
But he isn't a meme, so he's wrong all the time!
>>55474450
This manlet thing is no bullshit. There has never been a President under 6'
Long live God Emperor Trump
Did nobody watch the fucking debate?
One of the moderators literally said this right after Rand was done speaking, how can people be this ignorant
>>55472776
>>55472844
>>55478491
>>55478595
To be fair, how much has MSM talked about TPP?
Seems like very few even know about it and even fewer talk about it
>>55479028
>>55479054
All that palaver doesn't get around the fact that Rand lacks the spine to deport the 11 million that are in the country illegally. Instead he'll just print out a nice stack of work visas for them and they can keep undercutting American workers.
We need a leader with will. That leader is Trump.
>>55479210
>>55479138
Seriously. Trump is so stupid.
>>55479028
>>55479054
>more flip flopping from Rand
hear it from the man himself
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rand-paul-endorses-path-to-citizenship/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLHYEtunyrA
>lets normalize them and make them taxpayers; they're not going home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp6SFRAQVUw
Rand Paul thinks amnesty is no big deal
Why don't you stop shilling spic? Your anyone but Trump mentality is ill placed in the incompetent manlet
If you really want to have a chance against Trump start shilling for Rubio now
>>55479228
Trump also lacks the will to keep his stances, he has always flip flopped
Rand's unwillingless to deportation are also due to his libertarian and small government ideals
>>55479564
>"My plan will not grant amnesty or move anyone to the front of the line," Paul says. "But what we have now is de facto amnesty."
Literally your fist source
Stop shilling, go over to Reddit, they're dumber there
>>55479210
TPP is good goy, best thing ever, it just works no need to talk about it
>>55477080
>>55479665
>Literally your fist source
yeah, i was showing how he flipped flopped more then once between 2013 and now
why do you think hes so unpopular?
>>55479665
>Trump also lacks the will to keep his stances, he has always flip flopped
He hasn't even been in office. Rand has and he has a proven track record of changing his beliefs at the drop of a hat.
Kiss and make up, guys.
God Emperor Trump is going to make America great again.
Surely there will be a wonderful position for Rand in the reich.
>>55472776
How does he do it? How is it possible to remain so unstumpable?
>>55479991
Also wow, a successful businessman has an idea of how other countries will use trade agreements? Color me shocked.
>>55479665
>Trump also lacks the will to keep his stances, he has always flip flopped
lol thats funny considering hes been saying the exact same shit for 27 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI
>>55479991
Our memes warp reality to suit him. His supporters are probably the most loyal base out of all the candidates.
>>55480101
>His supporters are probably the most loyal base out of all the candidates.
Oh, thats actually confirmed.
In polling (not online but real polling of registered republicans) 60% of people who voted for Trump said they would vote for him no matter what
In the same polls, only 15-22% of Carson supporters said they were decided, and he was the next highest candidate.
Trump has a furiously devout base
>>55480058
great video
>>55480220
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tveor3jjM7k
this one is quite good
>trump supports gold standard 27:30
>>55480350
Oh that video is fucking awesome
I really need to get the R.Stone guys book on Hillary, would give more than enough ammunition to reduce her to nothing in bar booth debates
>>55472776
>any of this has to do with currency manipulation
>any of this changes what he implied his understanding was
>tpp benefits china
>obscure references to them taking advantage of undefined things
TPP most certainly does not benefit china, it's half the reason why countries are joining it
>mfw the reason why TPP benefits china changes every day
trumpfag damage control
>>55480058
He literally hasn't
>>55479893
Trump has a worse record of flip flopping
>http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm
>http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/28/trump-has-record-flip-flops-though-it-hasnt-stopped-rise-in-polls/
>>55477530
>implying that makes any criticism with regard to china relevant
that makes the deal neutral to china and beneficial to the countries involved still
fucking shill
>>55478546
>invited
>china will join only to get broadsided by copyright infringement claims
top kek the more you people post this the more pathetic you look
>>55480582
>randlets are so retarded they didn't watch the debate or read the thread
question was about pacific trade, not the TPP. Just because Rand went full autist
>>55477080
also, loopholes in the TPP that will benefit China
>>55478481
>>55478613
when will manlets learn?
>>55480656
>He literally hasn't
he had all the same core messages in 88 as you just saw in that video
The only one that has changed is gun control (for the better)
Also, its been 27 years
Rands flipped twice as much in the last TWO YEARS
Get building spic
>>55480777
>cites the deal
>cites countries, includes china with the group
>proceeds to complain about how the deal doesn't talk about chinese currency manipulation
sure thing retard
>"He didn't specifically say the words, therefore he didn't say it"
you do realize what you're doing when you greentext?
It's called an implication fuckwit
unless you want everyone to speak like a fucking robot
>>55480777
The loopholes will not benefit China as much as Trump implies, haven't found the paper but
>http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/China-calm-over-TPP-isolation-as-it-pursues-region-30270625.html
Says that it will negatively affect China, even though in a minimal way
Also, TPP had the purpose to isolate China from Pacific trade, Obongo even said that
>my face when Trump
>>55480954
>doesn't understand distinctions
liberals don't understand distinctions either
this thread proves how retarded trump fags are tbch family.
>>55481103
>the tactic where you suggest Trump's supporters are dumb.
someone ought to compile a list of these.
>>55481019
RIDF please, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>55480975
you clearly still didn't watch it
They ask about pacific trade, he talks about china and their currency manipulation
THEN
goes on to talk about the TPP and how china could take advantage of the trade deal, which has already been proven to be entirely possible if not likely
Two separate statements famm, you sound like one of the libshits arguing that its only the militia that has a right to bear arms (instead of the individual)
>>55480954
>the same core messagges
>literally only issue he touches in Oprah is trade and foreign policy
Sure senpai
I still can't believe people thought Trump was stumped. When will they learn?
Thank god there's more than one good candidate
I'd be happy if either trump or paul win. And it looks like trump has a good chance.
Fuck.. was so depressing being on /new/ and /pol/ when ron paul was the only good candidate and he was ignored constantly by the liberal press - because they knew he'd bring liberal voters to vote for him.
>>55473471
This. Trump is from the future. He's our savior sent from the heavens.
>>55481433
>>55481433
desu the only good realistic option looks like Trump for president and Rand for VP
But I doubt Rand or Trump would accept that
>>55481280
>they ask about pacific trade, not TPP
>the entirety of the question is about the TPP barring one point about the fact that 80% of trade is tariff free, and the deal addresses the other 20%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTl230M4X8
>claims I didn't watch the debate
>literally 100% wrong about something as simple as the question asked
his answer is literally why the deal is bad, because it doesn't address currency manipulation
>he finds it ridiculous that currency manipulation by a non member of the deal isn't discussed
he's clearly under the impression that they are part of the TPP and subsequently doesn't rebut until he has a straw to grasp at on twitter
he's uninformed and so are you
Trump is the Slayer of Globalists.
>>55481532
>9999x9999
How did I not see this before?
>>55481607
please stop repeating this trash
When somebody says this or anything in relation to this it showcases how much of a newfag they are to politics
>>55472776
CAN NOT
>>55472844
>>55478491
>damage control
>in first place
He could be fucking Hillary in the ass on live television and you assholes would be going
>lol his dick's gonna get covered in shit! STUMPED!
>>55481433
I remember that feel.
That's why Rand is such a huge disappointment to me. His father was one of the most decent men to run for office. Rand lacks both his personality and the courage of his convictions.
>>55473471
Oh yeah? You have proof to back that up?
He might have called Iraq, but that's it. Not to mention Iraq was obvious.
>>55481607
As a mexican how do you feel about the wall?
I mean I know that feel because Irish people in my city were very ostracised right up to the 50's.. that and im part boong
>>55481710
>Hillary dominates Trump with her anus on live television
>Trumpfags on suicide watch
>>55481710
more like
>he could be getting fucked by hillary in the ass and you assholes would be going
>lol he's getting action unlike that manlet! UNSTUMPED
trump is the epitome of style over substance and it's evident his supporters are the same
>>55481734
He's too young,
give him a decade and he'll be a good president candidate.
Ron had this sort of wisdom and critical thinking that most politicians nowadays don't have. Trump has the critical bit covered... but I just feel like he's lacking that wisdom(makes up with experience though).
>>55481768
>As a mexican how do you feel about the wall?
Wall's not going to be built, unless the USA builds it
Securing borders is necessary, specially in times of mass immigration, it's not late for the USA to secure it's borders, they're not at yurop level madness yet
Here we have problems from immigration from the central america, though the southern border it's completely unsecured (as in not even any kind of checkpoint), and they usually just try to reach the USA so they aren't much of a problem, also cartels take care of wrecking them
But I can see it becoming a problem in the near feature, some of them are actually staying in Mexico instead of going further north
4chan:
>NO MATTER WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS RIGHT EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES GTFO OUT OF MY SAFE ZONE
Reddit:
>NO MATTER WHAT BERNIE SANDERS IS RIGHT EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES GTFO OUT OF MY SAFE ZONE
Kind of pathetic, tbqhfam. You guys honestly sound as bad as Reddit when it comes to discussing politics. No wonder everyone left this shit hole and went to 8.
>>55481777
>Hillary dominates Trump with her anus on live television
I uh got something I need to take care of.
>>55481785
>trump is the epitome of style over substance
He has more substance than any politician in America
- build a wall
- Renegotiate the TPP
Yes that's only 2. 2 more than any other politician (fuck we're screwed).
While I think the TPP can only benefit Australia (because china needs food... desperately), I still think it's too open for abuse and I know Singaporeans will flock here to manipulate the housing sector (already happening according to an old singaporean friend - who said their abuse of the sector in their own country fucked it up a bit)
>>55481991
>Rand takes a cheap shot at the debate
>deliberately misrepresents what Trump said
>OP posts an article that lays out facts supporting Trump's contention
>Rand supporters shout it down without even reading it
I would expect this bullshit from Jeb/Rubio/Fiorina and their shills, but it's unworthy of a Paul or his supporters.
>>55472776
The TPP also fucks over a bunch of smaller companies and individuals in signatory regions, letting non signatory companies, individuals, and states out compete them, especially when it comes to IP rights and such.
>>55481946
I heard the brain drain is a huge issue in Mexico, and bigger further south - yet the economy is apparently flourishing. Why are people leaving a flourishing country to go to a dying country (economically)? Are cartels that bad?
>>55482169
>misrepresents
no
>without even reading it
no, I read it, and have spent more time than it deserves pointing out why it and trump supporters are wrong
Trump is an honest to god prophet. Remember his comments about Christmas being destroyed by the left? Well, look at the current Starbucks cup fiasco. Trump predicted this and he's the only one who can save us from it.
>>55482111
>He has more substance than any politician in America
sure thing m8
>>55481991
Exactly, and they refuse to admit it just like they refuse to believe their beloved Trump can be stumped sometimes.
>>55482291
>trumpfags support the starbucks controversy being a thing
it's literally a trumped up liberal trap to make Christians look like unreasonable whiny assholes
Trump supports it because it's a low hanging fruit he can claim victory over after it changes
you people are retarded
>>55482230
Anything related to a STEM field is usually paid at least 10 times better in the USA
Though in some places it's either moving to a big city in central Mexico or dealing with cartels (which actually kidnap engineers to set up infrastructure), most prefer simply going further north
>>55482406
Shillary, more people will take the bait on reddit than on /pol/.
>>55481991
Go fuck bernie jew sanders up the ass if you love him so much.
>>55482291
>Remember his comments about Christmas being destroyed by the left? Well, look at the current Starbucks cup fiasco
>>55482532
He literally said nothing good about Sanders m8 feeling triggered?
>>55482489
the first day that was posted on /pol/ everyone thought it was a non, dumb as fuck, controversy
the day after trump says he supports a boycott, trumpfags change their tune
literally as shill as you can get
>>55482532
>bernie and trump supporters are both shit because x
>if you like bernie go back to reddit
the ironing
>>55482532
>Guide to being a partisan fuckface: the post
>>55472776
He who can't be stumped is unstumped.
>>55479974
True. Trump is gonna need support if hes gonna make America great again.
>>55482236
>I read it, and have spent more time than it deserves pointing out why it and trump supporters are wrong
>>55480582
>tpp benefits china
>obscure references to them taking advantage of undefined things
The article explicitly stated defined provisions they could take advantage of. I cited them above
>>55478481
>>55478613
If you did read it then either you totally failed to understand it or you're being flagrantly dishonest. You don't seem completely retarded, so I know where my money is.
>>55473369
Rand please go away
>>55473471
you got 9/11, the guy is a fucking genius, there is a reason he has 10 billion fucking dollars
>>55476955
They pretty much got Obama elected. He was cooler then McCain and thus more memeable.
>>55482000
Relax bro hes lying.
>>55482946
it lists specific things they could take advantage of
it doesn't say how it is more beneficial to china than not, which it isn't
it is a vast and comprehensive bill, to say china could take advantage of part of it is meaningless and not what he was talking to. Every country could take advantage of every part the article talks about if they aren't part of the deal
the deal itself however is more beneficial to the ingroup than those not in it
the 3.6 provision is a perfect example of it not defining exactly what the problem is and obscurely implying something even is a problem
3.6 doesn't create some new ability for china to exploit, it only permits them to overcome a new wall that is put up....a wall they didn't have to overcome before
tariffs are retarded anyway and the bill is in effect trying to get rid of them as long as there are guarantees
it is a bad deal in other ways, but to say china will benefit exclusively to the detriment of the United States is literally wrong and he was literally talking out of his ass and you're literally a shill
>>55482318
I'll concede the point that he isn't that well spoken but not all great leaders have to be freaking Abraham Lincolns.
>>55475507
>>55483542
>he isn't well spoken
the only reason people like him is because of the way he speaks
>abraham lincoln is a great leader
lurk for a couple weeks before posting senpai
>>55472776
Trump is a motherucking alpha, and there's a very distinct possibility that he's full redpilled and will go Reich on everyone's ass.
But still, can he at least have Rand as his VP? He's a low energy guy, but I still can't bring myself to dislike him.
>>55481746
>iraq was obvious
>you actually think you thought of this
Can't Stump The Trump
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd9PYIb0H2o
>>55479076
bush is 5 10 man
>>55483845
iraq was pretty obvious if you paid any sort of proper scrutiny to what was going on, it wasnt obvious if you never took an active look rather than passively hearing about it from the news, acquaintances, etc.
>>55481785. <<<<---- that sick burn tho.
>>55482111
it's pretty obvious trump has sent a horde of minions trying to find an exit.
trump fags grabbing [no name websites]
literally circle jerking to re generate their faith in the meme candidate.
trump has no substance, no plan, no nothing.
is running on fear and hate even after the moderators completely exaggerate numbers just to give trump an alibi.
he still come short literally on everything.
> INB4 tax plan.
cutting his taxes in half is not a good tax plan.
> Inb4 money inversion
Carl Icahn please!
>>55483726
Its a shill tactic on here, one minute they're posting "manlet" and the other they are posting "STUMPED"
I like them both
>>55484316
This. Dont be misled by the shills. its going to get worse and worse as we get near the election.
>>55473007
Trump could've worded it better if he meant that, certainly; probably a good overarching policy trump might want to espouse is that currency wars and embargoes are a bad set of policies to rely on, because of their effect on local markets here- these policies make things cost more and lose us jobs.
>>55472776
RANDLETS ON SUICIDE WATCH
READ THE DEAL YOU DUMB SHILL
>>55473471
No he is not always right.
What makes him great is that he realizes when he has made any errors and simply restates the issues correctly without appologizing.
This isn't me critizing him, I think how he handles facts is great.
RAND'S HAVING A HARD LIFE
>>55483619
People like him because he's a badass who will make America great.
>>55475866
uh...no. He isn't.
