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Fapping - the lowest degeneracy
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Most of us aren't at the age where we need a little blue pill. But I think there is a red pill you need. The ultimate degeneracy is masturbating.

I'm a man who doesn't fap. Ask me anything.
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How do you control your urges?
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>>55453984
Believing in God.
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>>55454013
>Implying youre the OP
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>>55454042
I'm the same as OP.
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>>55453984
After a while, it just clicked. I was wasting energy.

Self-pleasure is self-destructive.

If I masturbated another 300 times I'd be exactly where I am now.
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>>55454013
>calls others degenerates
>religious in 2015
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>>55454013
The one true God Amun-Ra?
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Enjoy your low testosterone levels you piece of shit.
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>>55454158
>not believing in God past your own life
>2015
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>>55454094
a faggot then?
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>>55454094
No.
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>>55454013
K E K
E
K
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Whats bad about jerking off?

I do so once a day
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I fapped four times on my day off already today
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>>55454210
Testosterone in the body is made from a protein cascade starting with cholesterol. Basically, if you want more testosterone, which the world runs on when people don't waste it by masturbating, eat eggs and hamburgers.
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>>55454210
it doesn't lower your t levels
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noFap is not needed. Just do noPorn.
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>you're a degenerate for doing things I don't
Why does it bother you so much that other people are doing something they gain pleasure from? Are you a fag?
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Guys, masturbation is normal and healthy. This is just silly.

Come on... it's...... 2015
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>>55454401
Porn will still be in your mind even if you quit watching it so that's pointless
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>>55454263
>Whats bad about jerking off?
>I do so once a day
Wastes an hour of your time accomplishing nothing. Wastes energy doing same when you can apply the energy to a million other things, like your significant other (or finding one if you haven't), job, skills, language, reading, intelligence, sports, exercise.

How is basically being addicted to your own hand less degenerate than being an alcoholic or heroin junkie? Because you're a fap addict, so you want to give yourself special treatment and pretend it's healthy.
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>>55452912
>no fap

Enjoy testicular cancer
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>>55454480
>Wastes an hour of your time
>an hour
Jesus, are you taking your hand to dinner and a movie beforehand too?
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If I don't fap I will have sexual frustration taking up my concentration and I think that is a huge waste of time also no?
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>>55454342
biology doesn't work that way you faggot, at least read the wikipedia article on testosterone

also go back to reddit with that shit
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>>55454575
This
I can get off in five minutes if i want to
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>>55454103
Next step is fasting from all Internet use.

Waiting for and anticipating instant responses on the Internet depletes dopamine. Posting is to talking what fapping is to sex. Plus the whole of the Internet as we know it was funded and driven by the porn industry. The real red pill is removing technology from your life. Everything you say about wanking applies to the entire Internet and computers in general.
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>>55454480
>an hour

you're doing something really wrong
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>>55454598
Are you seriously cooking Swede anal blood you Finnish cretin?
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>>55454598
>If I don't fap I will have sexual frustration
it's rather a withdrawal symptom
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>>55454598
It's about using that energy towards other thing.
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>>55454575
>Jesus, are you taking your hand to dinner and a movie beforehand too?
If you can't even control yourself when masturbating, you're also suffering from premature ejaculation and DEFINITELY need to cut out the fapping.

Over time, an hour a day will add up to being like 4% of life. Half an hour would still be like 2%. Do you really want that on your gravestone? "Spent 1/50th of his life sitting facing a screen touching his own dick"
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>>55454496
I cum inside my girlfriend's womb every night. Isn't that enough?
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>>55452912


>subjection

yeah thats nice
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NoFap bro AZ, I didn't know that there were like minded people here on 4chan, way to go!
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>>55453984
Have a girlfriend or wife, that helps.
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>>55454696
>>an hour
>you're doing something really wrong
Another premature guy who will never experience a real arousal cycle, are you?

>>55454739
>>If I don't fap I will have sexual frustration
>it's rather a withdrawal symptom
Bingo.
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>>55452912

Not using your God given parts has negative consequences on your health. Release At least once a day, for your health.
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>>55452912
YOU wankers make me SIIIIIIIIIICK!!! :|
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>>55452912
aww man i got a roommate just like you. He had a run in with the law and now he's gone full hermit. First he started out with that no fap bs, then he stopped drinking alcohol all at once, now he's reading all this bull lecture about finding your inner man and that romance is all about the hunt and treating ladies like some godgift. I've really started to dislike that fucker.
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Why would you want to take away something from people that is not only fun but free and hurts nobody?
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>>55454441
I was going to post that pointing guy from They Live, but I'm to lazy to go find it.
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>>55452912

For those who want to find out about the harm of pornography and masturbation and want to stop, the websites http://yourbrainonporn.com and http://www.yourbrainrebalanced.com are the best there are. Also watch Gary Wilson's lecture on TED at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU. Good luck.
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>>55454860
it takes you an hour to orgasm? how old are you, 70?
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>>55454632
>biology doesn't work that way you faggot, at least read the wikipedia article on testosterone
>also go back to reddit with that shit


"Like other steroid hormones, testosterone is derived from cholesterol (see figure to the left).[121] The first step in the biosynthesis involves the oxidative cleavage of the sidechain of cholesterol by CYP11A, a mitochondrial cytochrome P450 oxidase with the loss of six carbon atoms to give pregnenolone. In the next step, two additional carbon atoms are removed by the CYP17A enzyme in the endoplasmic reticulum to yield a variety of C19 steroids.[122] In addition, the 3-hydroxyl group is oxidized by 3-β-HSD to produce androstenedione. In the final and rate limiting step, the C-17 keto group androstenedione is reduced by 17-β hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase to yield testosterone."
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On day 7 of NoFap, and it's fucking rough. I was able to quit smoking cigs (10 years) cold turkey, but this....I've been using internet porn since I was 12, yo.
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>>55454860
>If you dont take an hour your premature

Explains the no fap shit. So it really stems from sexually dysfunctional frustrated people who have issues masturbating and then try to take some higher ground about how it makes them better. You guys are like the Jews of jacking off.
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I unintentionally started NoFapNovember believing I'd be getting laid this past week and not wanting to waste a drop.

Now that that's fallen through I've just not felt like doing it, and may as well continue until the end of the month

am I gonna make it?
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>>55454896
Of course you dislike him becouse he is becoming better man and you still jerking to niggers cocks.
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>>55455009
I already promised myself that if I ever fapped I would kill myself, weakness doesn't deserve to exist.
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Eh... More power to you I guess.

I've tried it a couple times around 7 days in, like clockwork, I always end up with a big thick boner that needs to be purged.
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into the
>>/trash/
should this thread go
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>>55454973
Try going no tech. Cancel your Internet service and stop using the computer entirely restricting it to public places like libraries.

You'll find that Internet use vidya and all modern technology is just as bad as fapping.
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>>55454158
Says the britfag as people of faith are taking over his country.
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>>55454648
>fasting from all Internet use.
Yeah, I just managed to block a porn loophole, now I need to cut back on internet use, 4chan to specific. I waste most of my time on here.
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Get rapey when I don't.

But it is indeed bad for you. I
t warps you perception and motivations, also works like temporary castration.
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>>55455047
>becoming a better man by not fapping
alright ziomec, back to the psych ward
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>used to smoke, drink and fap
>was a fat neckbeard, never got laid
>started exercising, lost weight
>quit smoking, then drinking
>quit fapping

I'm going on two years without having to fap because now I have a steady stream of girlfriends. I have had 3 in the last two years and if my current one was to leave me today I have a about 5 candidates to choose from to take her place. Get your shit together, take care of yourself, it's very rewarding.
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i stopped masturbating once a day, and now only masturbate when i actually feel like it. it fluctuates. doing it once a day became an obsession, i would do it even if i didn't feel like it. then i'd watch porn to make me want to force me into it basically. some days i'd just keep thinking about getting home and masturbating to porn.

i don't think stopping completely is healthy, but stop using porn could be.
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>>55455227
Sell your PC. I'm seriously considering it.
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>>55454751
The idea of masturbating is to get it over with as quick as possible not make it last to impress your hand you fucking dickbrain
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>>55452912
>>>/b/
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>>55455047
>Of course you dislike him becouse he is becoming better man and you still jerking to niggers cocks.
Thanks for the support anon.

>>55454973
>On day 7 of NoFap, and it's fucking rough. I was able to quit smoking cigs (10 years) cold turkey, but this....I've been using internet porn since I was 12, yo.
The best way is if you have a long term relationship. Like monogamous girlfriend at least. My wife got me one of these, it's called birdlocked. Even if I wanted to fap (which I don't know that I can see what a waste it is), it's not an option anymore.

>>55454960
>it takes you an hour to orgasm? how old are you, 70?
I'm 28. I haven't ejaculated prematurely (what you would call "normal") for like 6 years.

You guys have been conditioned for some reason to think that it's a laudable goal, and not autism, to be able to sneak into a men's room any time of day and and jerk off into a shit-filled automatic toilet in 2 minute to stop your "sexual frustrations" i.e. addiction from causing you to sperg out.
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>>55455343
That's too extreme for me, if there was no 4chan, I wouldn't be on the internet outside of basic research for papers, I even blocked youtube, with access only allowed on the weekends. I can recommend you some programs if you like.
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>>55455261
good job man
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I have stopped masturbating when I moved in with your mom. Please stop wasting the internet that I am paying for coming to /pol and shitpost all day.
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>>55455392
I can tell you've never touched a woman if you can't even last 5 minutes with your hand.

Your hand should not be your #1 lover. You're the one with dick on his brain apparently.
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>>55454967
why are you quoting the pathway from cholesterol to testosterone? How does this relate to your claim that masturbating decreases testosterone levels at all?

Also what I'd like to ask you:
Do you also believe that having regular sex with a women decreases testosterone levels?

If your answer to this is no, then your idea that masturbation decreases testosterone is plain false.
To the penis, testes and brain the orgasm induced biochemical reactions are the same for masturbation and for real sex. Also there is NO scientific evedince at all for a correlation between orgasm frequency and testosterone level. Until there is some you can not make any such claims.
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>masturbation is a sin
>masturbation is degenerate
Ok. No more masturbation! :^)
>days pass by "I am going to get a girlfriend so I don't masturbate!"
>weeks pass by "Why can't I get a girlfriend so I don't masturbate!"
>a month has passed "What the fuck! I JIZZED IN MY SLEEP! (yes this is possible. I didn't masturbate for 2 months and I jizzed in my sleep)
>go to bathroom
>"This just isn't working out. How am I suppose to not masturbate when I have no girlfriend."
Fuck
You
Many men wern't gifted with aesthetic facial features that are attractive to woman. Or who are over 6ft taller. And big muscles and a big dick.

Masturbation is natural and a daily redpill against woman. I never asked to be a masturbator.
Some will argue "dude lmao you just need to believe and be yourself. You arn't trying hard enough mang! Cmon you just need to believe lmao XD"

Go fuck yourselves who says masturbation is bad. I think its gods greatest gift to the lonely man.
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>>55455412
dude, if it takes you an entire hour to orgasm when masturbating, there is something wrong. you must be getting prematurely old. unless you're edging.
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>>55455412
>being a literal kuck

Do you suck the bull's cum out of your wife too?
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>>55454342
Testosterone is raised by both masturbation and sex actually.

But I don't think nofap would lower your testosterone level, only on the long term.
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I've never really understood the idea with not fapping at all, are you nofap faggots really ok with jizzing in your sleep? If your gonna cum anyways, why not do it with the benefits of being able to feel it?

Granted, I know I'm not everyone, but I've been jacking off once a day since I was 10 and never had a wet dream.
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>>55454954
>yourbrainonporn
>TEDx
I'm sure you can try harder than that.
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>>55455511
>why are you quoting the pathway from cholesterol to testosterone? How does this relate to your claim that masturbating decreases testosterone levels at all?
Please quote me where I claimed that :) Typical straw-redditor.
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>>55452912
I have an aneros Vice stimulating my prostate and an hitachi magic wand against my penis as we speak

feels good man then later i'm having a nap then take care of my orders for my online business that allows me to live comfortably

lifes great
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>>55452912
How do you wash your night clothes from the constant wet dreams you are having?
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>>55455412
>got a chastity device to prevent masturbation
Okay, now we know you're just joking, okay.
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>>55455525
>Do you suck the bull's cum out of your wife too?
I don't know what your problem is. Sweden on vacation in Detroit or something?

I'm the bull. When my wife needs it, she knows I'm loaded and ready and all she has to do is turn the key and launch.
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I regularly go on Adderall 48 hour edging binges.

Don't think it's good for my heart, but got some mad penis size gains.
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Porn bad
Occasional fap good
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>>55455619
>Basically, if you want more testosterone, which the world runs on when people don't waste it by masturbating

there you go
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>>55455632
he doesn't. he saves the wet dream shavings and places it to his NoFap altar. He thanks the TEDx Gods for allowing a guy with no credentials fool millions into being brainwashed about masturbation.

AMEN
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>>55453984
I'm on no fap too, you want to know the reality? All behaviors become inate with repition - just like "muscle memory" in sports. You do something over and over again till the old behaviors become extinct. The urge is simply the imprinting from the old behavior, repition helps train your brain on the new behavior.
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>>55454967


>What is bound, and free testosterone.
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>>55454219
>Believe in any religion on Earth.
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>>55455499
You just don't want to admit that there's something wrong with you if you physically can't nut in under an hour.

It's not like most people can't go any longer, they just choose not to.
A big factor in premature ejaculation is the inability to control when you ejaculate, which is not the case here.
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>>55452912
You are the man I aspire to be, please tell me in bullet points what should I do to stop fapping forever
>inb4 cut dick
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>>55455466
It changed my entire outlook on life and I can see too how people see me, treat me, how they see me for the first time. Before I was always ashamed of my self, couldn't look people in the eyes, didn't think that there was much to like about myself. I now feel very comfortable and confidant around everyone, especially with women, I look them in the eyes and smile, the dig that.
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>>55454648

This. I'll state what at this point I've accepted as fact:

NoFap is fucking worthless if you are going to replace masturbation with chronic web browsing. Hell I'd say you're better off jacking it then browsing around idly all goddamn day. It's like quitting heroin and making the jump to meth, you're still engaging in a shitty, destructive behavior.
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>>55456017
just throw out your PC

literally all there is to it. Youll be forced to use computers in public places and think twice about what you will look at
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>>55455993
i can essentially control whenever I want to nut. the orgasm isn't the fun part for me so I want to last longer to enjoy the part I find more enjoyable.
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>>55455839
Your argument is that if I plug in a bunch of Christmas lights, I will "have" more electricity, but if my electricity comes from a battery, it's going to run out faster because I'm using it all on something pointless instead of something productive.

You're in fucking denial. Take 30 minutes and masturbate and tell us how you felt before and after.

Then take that get-up-and-go attitude and fix your life instead of trying to troll me online.
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>>55454480
But I jerk off at night, so it's not like I can use that energy and apply it to something else when I'm in bed
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>>55454480
>an hour

LMAO. Dude quit sorting through porn and trying to find the right video. Porn is the real poison, not masturbstion. Jesus christ lol
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>>55455993
>It's not like most people can't go any longer, they just choose not to.
You can lie to yourself if you want, but not to me.
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>>55452912
Making love is best. I'm tired most of the time. (work, kids and stuff)
Shagging is is wonderful. My wife is fucking insatiable.
She's on night shift now, but she'll destroy me when she gets home at 8am.
My bell end actually gets reddened. It's like a sore torch, in the darkness.
Friction can be painful.
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>>55454748
how ??
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>>55452912

OK op, I'll bit on this one, and here is my one question. Why have you not seen this vidya?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
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>>55456165
>She's on night shift now
;^)
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>>55456058
kinda extreme cuz I have to study and all ... also if ever i'm gonna stop waisting time then i need to do somthing useful, mostly on the internet, any other alternative ?
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>>55456153
I support your attempt rid degeneracy OP, now answer my question:
>>55456203
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I tried the NoFap for 2 months one time.

Worst mistake of my life. I couldn't focus at all. I think that I may have too much testosterone. For the full day, I kept catching myself staring at latina asses and going in and out of focus while having a conversation with friends.

I would toss and turn in bed and not be able to sleep unless I took two benadryl.

I could feel my brain in my head spinning like a top.

Once I ended NoFap and fap moderately again, my mind has been clearer, my focus sharper, my productivity has improved, sleep like a baby, etc.

NoFap is a destructive meme trend
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>>55456335
All about moderation. Too much is not health. Also dont turn into a FAP zombie & allow women to take control.

>>55445116
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>>55456116
>But I jerk off at night, so it's not like I can use that energy and apply it to something else when I'm in bed
Amazing rationalization.

It's at night, so you couldn't just go to bed and wake up earlier? You couldn't be reading a book instead of jizzing into your bed like a 13 year old?
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>>55454263
it drains your energy and testosterone levels
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>>55455466
It changed my entire outlook on life and I can see too how people see me, treat me, how they see me for the first time. Before I was always ashamed of my self, couldn't look people in the eyes, didn't think that there was much to like about myself. I now feel very comfortable and confidant around everyone, especially with women, I look them in the eyes and smile, the dig that.
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ITT: New wave asceticism.
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What do non-Brits think of British porn?

http://xhamster.com/movies/5254795/moms_like_gangbangs.html
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>>55452912
Ugh I've been trying to stop for a long time now with no avail.
and desu there are a whole lot more bad stuff to it then just wasting time, OP.
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>>55456401
sure, its all about moderation.

of course the reverse where you fap 24/7 is bad. why do we need some guy that paId off TEDx with zero credentials tell us the obvious?
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>>55456320
print things out on public computers, use books. Remember your forebears were smarter than you and never touched a computer in their life to study
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>>55454909
if you have nothing to do in your life, i guess it's harmless

you won't know until you actually stopped fapping regularly
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>>55456426
You might have low T. Recommend calling your doctor.
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>>55452912

>I'm a man who doesn't fap. Ask me anything.

lol cluck
gb2 reddit you retard
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Why is male masturbation somehow bad, but female masturbation isn't bad?
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>>55455466
>be open

openness is not a virtue, it's a weakness

being critical is what you need
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>>55456426
They want to make men weak, useless to women, fap zombies. They want you to fap instead of finding a wide and procreating. Who is they? Look around you. Look at the flood into Europe, while white Europeans are fapping, muslims will be out breeding. Feminism and cultural Marxism wants men weak minded, bow to women, turn into sissies, lower test, all to shape the minds. Porn is degenerate as well.

Answer: Its a tactic to destroy from within.

>>55445116
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>>55455499

>Masturbating is comparable to sex

masturbating does not take an hour. even whitout porn. litteraly any man will tel you this. im sorry butt you are the minority here.
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>>55456475
let me take a whack at this

*no pun*
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I was on nofap for 5 months.It was the best time of my life to be honest, my confidence was at Alpha male level.Im going to start again soon.
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>>55452912
>tfw wake up with a raging boner every morning

Help
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>>55456589
>masturbating does not take an hour. even whitout porn. litteraly any man will tel you this. im sorry butt you are the minority here.
>Being able to last an hour
>In the minority

I'm sorry. I guess some of you were just... born premature.
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>>55456624
Consider the following:

>>55456588
>>55456588
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>>55455172
Going Notech is easier said than done. I'm just now learning what my triggers are, and how to avoid them.
>>55455412
That's one of the reasons I'm doing this, porn-induced erectile dysfunction. Sucks having 20cm dick, but not being able to use it to its maximum potential...
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>>55456096

I don't have any argument, I never said testosterone increases more/excessive masturbation/sex, so fuck off with your staw man.

Also holy shit are you really comparing your fucking hormonal system to a battery?

Again: biology doesn't work that way, there is no "testosterone reserve" in your organism that can become depleted and will fill up when not having orgasms.
Present some studies or shut the fuck up about this nofap bullshit.
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>>55456475
it's as I expected. family guy was right about british porn

they might as well be sipping tea while having that gangbang m8
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>>55452912
I think porn is far worse than fapping itself

Hilariously most men nowadays cannot even conceive fapping without porn
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>>55456500
i used to fap 3 to 4 times a day

i am desensitized to porn

i fallen into the cdtv/imoutotv/other trap

the next step would have been full blown cp

i tell you, porn is a slippery slope, and will make you grow fetishes you never had

i used to fap to tranny porn, now when i see tranny shit i want to vomit
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>>55456710
m8 I read erotica. im one of the few guys I know that get off to it.
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>>55452912
Not fapping for a week can lead to wet dreams, no thanks
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>>55456688
German bro here is arguing with ANON regarding the merits of fapping, all the while muslims flood his fucking country, fill it to the brim lick his cum soaked sock he faps with, and currently faps while his German women are being bred by invaders.....

Good job Germanbro, sure did make your point.
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>>55456781
that can all go in the reverse when you just apply an ounce of effort.

the best advice that I have for you is to fap in reverse; as in, fap to things less and less extreme until imagining someone you met becomes part of your fap session; and if thats too "creepy" for you, you can fap to ordinary nudie pictures.

the brain is an amazing thing and can adapt to almost anything.
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>>55456710
yes, the problem is porn and their producers

they effectively hijacked the concept of freedom and liberty to create porn

these people need to be hanged high

then they create bogus research implying production of porn lowered rapes and other crimes, when the matter of the fact is that in a white community, you will not see these crimes on a widespread way, but in black communities you do
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>>55456812
>55456688
the whole of the internet including this site is a subversive tool

the solution is NO TECH and leaving the internet for good. it is THEIR domain and always was. This place is just another safe space just like tumblr. anything that has you just sitting looking at a screen is a safe space as bad as tumblr
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>>55456901
the only way to do this is cut on porn altogether for a period of time

now i cum looking at a vanilla porn movie for 1 minute

i remember fapping to beastiality one time
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>>55456482
True ... Let's say I need to :
1-start masturbating without porn
2-try not to masturbate at all
3-limit the use of computer
that good ?
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>>55454470
Not really. I tried fapping without porn for a month and I actually felt a lot better overall. More confidence and well-being. When you decide to be a degenerate and masturbate to porn, all of that goes away
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>>55456964
cut the internet altogether, it was built for and by marxists and porn producers.

you don't relize how the medium itself is a problem inherently
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>>55456680
Thanks for redpilling me again anon.We will rise from our ashes once again if we stop masturbating.

Im on no fap again.
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>>55456933
I agree the internet is a giant shill. All of it is. I am only trying to scream as loud as I can (on the internet) to wake mother fuckers up to this.
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>>55457017
simply being able to talk to strangers across the world rather than only your local community and family is degenerate. it's the tower of babel.

I shouldn't be able to talk to you right now.

hell even electricity, the telephone and the power grid all destroyed society
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>>55456964
that could work also

play on steam or something to keepyour mind off it

better yet, listen to audiobooks. dresden files audiobooks are great and the guy that reads them sounds like the protagonist should
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>>55456426
>implying being around women has an opposite effect
Being in a relationship is more exausting then jerking off.
Now that i am single, with my 1 TB of porn i am only a click away from a hundreds of teenage girls spreading there asses for me. Dating and sex fucking fades in comparison.
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>>55457014

Go forth and fuck a women, dont fap like a bitch.
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>>55456688
Troll. LISTEN TO YOUR OWN BODY.

Spend a day masturbating 5 times or as many times as you can (I bet you're proud and have a record). Tell me if you had energy to do anything else.

Forget the word testosterone. You're too daft to understand biochemistry. Just tell me how much energy you have. Make a diary of what you do after masturbating. Nap? Read reddit? Try not masturbating. Make a diary of what you do instead.

Now explain why it's suddenly okay to do it once a day to feed your daily addiction.
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>>55457066
I'm an electrical engineer

I see no point anymore of every single thing I studied because it's destroying society.
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>>55456812
thanks burgerbro :^)
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>>55457007
internet can be used against these people

my problem was that i was fat and ugly

started losing weight recently, i see more and more women looking my way

going to lose more and see where this leads me

we need to take back internet, that's it
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>>55457066
I agree once again. It will lead to us turning into globalized, zombified, yessa massta slaves. The degenerate spread is just the beginning, and we are past that point anyways, that was 1960's late around the first start.
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>>55454480
>masturbating
>being the same as an alcoholic or heroin junkie

OP confirmed for not knowing what being either of those is like.
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>>55452912
Day 11 here, going strong.
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>>55457179
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>>55457227
started before that, Tesla himself was a feminist occultist who idolized fallen angels.

the Amish were right.
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>>55452912
I can't the moment I go to /a/ my pants explode
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>>55456655

Great job citing me. Maybe you should have included the entire post.


I was talking about masturbating, which is not the same as sex.
masturbating is in it self "selfish" , meaning that you dont have to last an hour. And noone does.
ill quit now because eventualy ill have to explain the "mechanics" of having sex and jacking off and how they differ
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Every famous 20th century inventor was involved with Theosophy and spiritualism. The radio started when people wanted to contact the dead.

Satan fell as lightning. I need to repent of being an electrical engineer because It's literal witchcraft
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>>55457007
>THIS ALL INCLUDES PORN & THE SUBVERSION TACTICS TO SHAPE YOUR MIND

Subversion areas
>Religion (take it out completely, demoralization of population. Trannys being accepted, Caitlyn "Woman" of the year)
>Education (all the shit degrees of professors like I NEED MUSCLE OVER HERE & riots/protest)
>Social Life (turn neighbors from friends, isolate, and have them focus only on their next pay check, racial divide, fracture into groups
>Power Structure (political power, media)
> Labor/Work Force (Unions)
>Law & Order (the attacks on police) *im not a boot licker, its obvious the socialist left is attacking the police

STAGES OF SUBVERSION:
>Demoralization -----------------------> Make all the shit that wasnt normal ok & normal, like crazy porn, cp, trannies, ect. The deep dive into fap territories you other wise would not have gone if it wasnt for degenerate porn.
>Destabilization
>Crisis
>Normalization

SUBVERSION TACTIC:
First spoke about by author of ART OF WAR - SUN TZU

TELL ME YOU DONT SEE THIS HAPPENING TODAY, EVERYTHING HE SPOKE ABOUT 32 YEARS AGO

CURRENT STAGE:
>Destabilization on the verge of Crisis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
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>>55457153

>You're too daft to understand biochemistry
>Forget about testosterone
>talks about unrelated pseudo scientific energy bullshit

You are killing me anon
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there's nothing new under the sun. People didn't invent these things, they were "given" them through contracts with forces that aren't human.
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>>55457344
i easily last an hour m8.
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>>55452912
What is so wrong about fapping?
>look at porn
>empty your balls
That's it, there isn't anything satanic about it.

Sometimes my gf even wacks me off before we have sex.
You can fuck for 45-60 minutes straight if you start without a load, you know.
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>>55457344
>Great job citing me. Maybe you should have included the entire post.

>masturbating is in it self "selfish"

Thanks for explaining yourself. Masturbating is selfish, so you should do it five times a day. I understand.

>>55457266
>OP confirmed for not knowing what being either of those is like.
when you orgasm, oxytocin is released directly into your brain. your body starts needing a release every day because you're a chronic masturbator.
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my balls are too big. doctor told me to rape the first white woman i saw.
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>>55457450
>forces that aren't human.


ayyy lmao
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>>55457514
"aliens" don't exist, they're demons
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going into my second week without fapping

It going pretty good so far
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>>55453984
have sex WITH A REAL GIRL
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>>55457482
Not allowing minorities to rape white women should be considered racist hate crimes
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>>55457544
spoopy
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>>55452912

I've been trying to quit for awhile. Day 4 now. How long before I stop being angry at everyone?
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>>55457576
So who will be their sock to spew into? Your wife/GF?
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>>55452912

But then you are easily controlled by women. This means you will be destroyed eventually.
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>>55457589
wanna get scared? look into patents for mind control through monitor flicker rates from back in the 60's.

if you own a computer it's probably too late
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>>55457632
There is only 1 fix, delete sys32 file. reboot
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>>55457546
Takes WAY too much time and money to get laid if you don't have a gf...
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/fit/ here.

nofap is a meme, just noporn and youll be fine.
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>>55457618
hopfully my wife as I am wearing a chastity belt

minoritys should be bulls by LAW
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>>55457632
what if i only use a tablet?
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>>55452912
>no fap

enjoy low T and low energy, fag
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>>55457681
porns fine just don't escalate and if you can't handle it then read erotica
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>>55455514
if its Gods greatest gift to a lonely man then why does He forbid it
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>>55457442
You're not fooling anybody with this bait. There is no more obviously scientific concept than "energy"

You waste energy by masturbating. Energy that could have gone to something else. Energy that you can't get back. You can't have more energy AFTER masturbating than you would have otherwise. There's this thing in science, maybe you've heard of it, called conservation of energy. Your bait isn't fooling anyone. Stop trying to defend degeneracy with false arguments.
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>>55457715
thats infinitely worse. at least you can take apart a computer
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>>55457800
gulp please leave me alone demonz
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There is literally nothing wrong with fapping
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>>55457670
not really sometimes it just happens you know, go to club and try your luck
if you are white go for the non white girls ;^)
>>55455009
go out and try to know girls its not like they fall from the fucking sky
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>>55457770
just drink some gatorade

it has electrolytes; it has what plants crave
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>>55452912
it's not about not fapping it's about not watching porn.

musturabation once a week is good. ust do it in the morning or in the shower. dont use porn as a stimulant just use your imagination.

this way youll still get horny as a mofo when youre with an actual girl
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>>55457874
>There is literally nothing wrong with fapping
Inner happiness doesn't mean finding a way to bend your member into your own butt to jizz in it.
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>>55455412
are you missing part of your dick? cos that might explain it
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>>55457945
>a way to bend your member into your own butt to jizz in it.

if i could do that, i wouldn't need an aneros now would i
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>>55457945

It also doesn't mean willfully ignoring your boner because of a completely retarded notion that it makes you a better person.
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>>55457770
ok anon you still didn't tell me how fapping decreases testosterone just reminding :^)
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>>55452912
TL;DR: don't waste your libido on something as stupid as fapping.

Masturbation isn't bad. It's not evil, either. But it's dangerous if abused. It puts you in a permanent state of decay that is very hard to get out of.

I tried NoFap for about half a year, and things were almost unbearable. Just going out in the streets and seeing an exposed female shoulder was enough to make me hard.

That, and it seems I was born with a complete disability of having nocturnal emissions.

Now I masturbate at most once a month. All is goode.
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>>55457770
>you're not wasting energy shitposting on 4chan
Please don't be a hypocrite...
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>>55458014
>Just going out in the streets and seeing an exposed female shoulder was enough to make me hard.

same

>once a month

da fug
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>>55457997
>It also doesn't mean willfully ignoring your boner because of a completely retarded notion that it makes you a better person.
It's not a "notion." Try it. You will see results.
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>>55458103

There are no fucking "results" other than being more easily aroused. Which I guess could be a boon if you suffer from ED, but not for everyone else
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>>55457902
>go to club
>get STDs from some bitch that probably had 200 other partners this year alone
Yeah, no thanks...
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Ejaculating several times a week decreases the chances of developing prostate cancer. Since none of us have girlfriends you are fucking retarded for never fapping.
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>>55458183
condoms exist FaM
you want a pure 18yo virgin??
lol its not gonna happen, sucks but we have to live with it
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>>55454480
>an hour

If it took me an hour to rub one out I'd probably stop as well.
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>>55458103
the results that i experienced was that my brain spinned inside my skull like a cap

only way to keep my libido in check is to self manage it by fapping otherwise i cant focus at all.
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>>55455392
He wants to enjoy the experience of giving a handjob as opposed to the experience of busting a nut. Confirmed for gay as fuck.
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>>55457766
Because God doesn't exist

>inb4 fedora
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>>55458261
Good goy. Keep masturbating every day and stay addicted to the pornoverse because it only takes you a short amount of time because you're premature.
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>>55458211
I'd rather risk prostate cancer than feeling weak and limp all my life.
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>>55458014
I masturbate once a day and but I'm still not turned on by most women, I hardily think about sex during the day actually. I think the only negative effect is that it makes me a little more tired but i'm willing to sacrifice that
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>>55458349

You feel weak and limp because you are, not because you fap
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>>55458254
not a pure 18yo virgin, but at least someone who doesn't take it up the ass from every guy she meets...
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>>55458349
sounds like you should exercise and eat healthy m8
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>>55452912

But you're gorgetting somethign really important. We're not fucking robots, or slaves trying to achieve maximum output every day of our lives.
Human beings aren't fucking factories, where taking 10 minutes out of your day to pleasure yourself is a "waste of energy."

Besides, look at yourself hypocrite, you've probably wasted countless hours shitposting on 4chan when you couldve been studying biochemistry.

Why?

For the exact same reason people fap.
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>>55458488

/thread
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>>55458508
>improving yourself is slavery

The propaganda is astounding. Do you have any other Torah verses for us?
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Fapping kills the sexdrive.
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>>55452912
I think that NoFap is too extreme. I tried it for a few days and I was going nuts. You need some release.
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>>55458413
>>55458474
Nope, it's definitely fapping what leaves me feeling empty and weak. Read up the physiological effects of ejaculation; so yes, even sex does that, but at least sex has an emotional cushion.
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>>55458653
Brits teeth kill my sex drive
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>>55458647
the torah doesn't say that, look into the Zohar . those fake "jews" don't follow the old testament but rather do everything possible to reverse it becauyse the Torah proved Jesus was God
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>>55458675
"I think nococaine is too extreme. I tried it for a few days and I was going nuts."
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>>55455091

I'm so God damn tired of being a low test beta when I have the potential to be alpha as fuck. I got hooked on porn from 13-14 years old and been fapping for 7 years everyday.
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>>55458677
Ejaculating doesn't feel a healthy person feeling weak you vegan faggot.
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>>55458488
This is true. That's how your semen production controls you
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>>55458647

We're all going to die anyways, don't be a chastity belt wearing kek like this guy. Why intentionally deprive yourself of happiness when life is so short anyways?

Pro tip: you would be a lot less spiteful if you just took it easy from time to time.
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>>55458675

They want you to be extreme.
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>>55452912
I regularly go without fapping for weeks at a time without effort. But there's no real benefit. In fact, abstaining from fapping is unhealthy and can lead to complications. This "no fap" meme is unscientific "bro science"
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>>55458677

What you read was uninformed and incorrect you fucking spic retard.
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>>55458675
NoFap is extreme nowadays becaue sex is fucking everywhere. You can't play a game, watch a movie or read a book where sex doesn't come up sooner or later.

Shit, you can't even go to your job that now there's slutty, desperate women in them...

You see, people in the before-times didn't fap much (if at all) because they were busier doing other things, and sex wasn't a part of daily life. They didn't have to deal with the constant bullshit we have to deal nowadays.
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>>55455189
top cuk

>>55452912
OP, I am trying the same. I have failed for so long, but now, I feel like I am going to make it.
Wish me good luck
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>>55454648
This.
All you nofappers need to man up and stop posting.
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>>55458877
go no tech

it's that simple, cut it at the root, literally stop paying for internet and TV
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>>55458836
Allah finger beats scissors
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free time is the mind killer, and technology created free time to control us.

smash the machines
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>>55458869
Shit, son, you don't even need to check a book to read the signs your own body throws at you right after you fap.

>>55458937
Nah, that would be stupid. It's shit we've got to learn to deal with as best we can and that's it.
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>>55458826
>We're all going to die anyways, don't be a chastity belt wearing kek like this guy.
I'm the OP.
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>>55458877
This so fucking much we have just lost self control over our bodies as times goes by
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people are so brainwashed they think "work" means sitting in an office and not tilling the fields
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>>55459024
KEK
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>>55458488

When I don't fap I get really dark thoughts going through my mind, I definitively don't turn into a whiteknight and I want nofap so I can get sexy girls not ugly ones

I'm a nice guy when I fap but when I stop for two, three days it's like the Satan is controlling my mind and sadism starts turns me on
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all you learn from these threads is that you morons have misplaced what the problem is. the problem isnt that fapping is bad in particular, but that you have what you consider a destructive habit that prevents you from being productive. most people fap, use the computer, and are still productive. if you would just understand that, you would stop making yourself look dumb and realize that your problem is your own.
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>Most of us aren't at the age where we need a little blue pill. But I think there is a red pill you need. The ultimate degeneracy is masturbating.

Go away Catholics.
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>>55458826
fags with the additude like you are one of the reasons why the west is falling
>LIFE IS SHORT WHY DEPRIVE HAPPINESS
life is short
but you need to use it wisely and not waste your time with dicking around with your cock
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>>55459059

If you feel physically bad after fapping you need to talk to a doctor.
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>>55459144
And what's wrong with having dark thoughts? All in all, just another jolly good reason not to fap I would say, ol' chap.
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Wouldn't it be more logical to take away women's rights instead of beating yourself up about beating your meat? Talk about a bunch of fucking betas ITT.
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>>55452912

I quit fapping and greatly reduced my drinking. I am so, so much happier now than I was before. I have sex multiple times a week, I read, lift, do well in school, study languages. I truthfully don't give a damn if it's placebo; it worked so well for me that I won't go back to jacking off and watching porn. You depressed anons should at least give it a try. Do you really think rubbing your dick and staring at digital whores and giggalos is a healthy behavior?
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>>55459367
You don't feel physically bad, as in having pain, but you feel weak and drained for days.

Once you try not fapping for months, you'll know what I mean. Having your pair full really livens things up - trust me.
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>>55452912
>Most of us aren't at the age where we need a little blue pill. But I think there is a red pill you need. The ultimate degeneracy is masturbating.
>I'm a man who doesn't fap. Ask me anything.

Why haven't you repented of your degeneracy and come to Zeus?

We shall restore the giant cock statues of Delos!
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>>55452912
Fuck you, nigga, I fap at least six times a day and have several hundred gigabytes of lewd CGs and eroge.
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>all this retarded arm chair philosophy
Top jej
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>>55456781
>be 17 first started fapping (strict catholic family) normie stuff like Milena Velba big boob lol stuff
>flash forward 7 years into hard femdom and ass smothering, can only get hard if the women kicks the man in the balls
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i don't see anything wrong with fapping (doing it or not doesn't make a difference when you're a loser)

only problem i have with doing it too often is that i get really weak against girls and get hard really easy, so i can't do shit like letting a girl sit in my lap because her ass would be inmediately pierced by my raging boner, and even holding hands can get akward when you are always walking hard like a rock

so now i try to fap mostly to hentai and stuff so that i don't get turned on by 3D bitches
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>>55459369

Because I don't want to work towards seriously fucking up some girl. But it's the only thing that really motivates me, I really don't care for life, power, money, loving family etc. I want to do the things going on in my mind but I realise I do need money and some power to do it
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