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You have 3 seconds to explain why DMT, LSD, hallucinogenic mushrooms, hallucinogenic cacti and Cannabis are illegal
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>>55451267
Job security for the DEA.

And no, I don't use it.
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Because feminism

After women got the right to vote all of the cool drugs including alcohol became illegal
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Try dating a stoner chick and you'll know.
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Idk senpai, but I will be trying LSD soon
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>>55451267
Hallucinations impair judgement and can make people dangerous to those around them

Cannabis fuck with your lungs.
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>>55451267
Because it's fucking degenerate and ruins people on a fundamental level.
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>>55451437
>>55451440
kill yourself
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Prison industrial complex
Corporate cronyism in government
Law Enforcement unions

a number of factors
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>>55451476
Awww, did the weedhead get triggered ?
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>>55451440
>ruins people on a fundamental level

Hold on sparky, drugs aren't religion.
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>>55451437
Smoke fucks with your lungs

Cannabis doesn't have to be smoked.
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>>55451476
The truth hurts doesn't it faggot?
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>>55451267
Because fuck you, you belong to the State.
>>55451343
Also, this. Like a lot of problems a cause of this is women having any influence on anything. If bitches would be smacked across her bitch face when she's running her bitch mouth they'd behave.
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>>55451437
Alcohol can induce depression, paranoia, delirium, hallucinations, vomiting, blackout, etc. etc.

So alcohol should be banned as well?
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>>55451267
Hard to control/tax
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>>55451574
And yet almost everyone who uses cannabis smokes it.
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>>55451622
The difference is that with alcohol, you don't become a braindead stoner that spouts pseudo-science about weed.
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Cause politicians decided it
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Joe rogan endorses hallucinogens and Joe rogan is objectively retarded
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>>55451622
No, but restricted. Which it is. Smoking causes damage faster.
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>>55451689
Nah you just become a wifebeater with organ failure
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>>55451267
cannabis should be illegal for minors. the other drugs are only allowable if they people on those drugs remain in a designated area, and not out in public.
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>>55451689
No, instead you become a deteriorating wreck and end up on a social plan harassing your wife because you have nothing better to do with your life at that point
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>>55451267

>Alcohol lobbies
>Anti-hemp lobbies
>"War on drugs lobby"
>Police budgets
>prison industry complex
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>>55451666
So what? Are you proposing that edible cannabis should be outlawed because if you were to smoke it then it could fuck with your lungs?
>>55451689
usually you just slowly drink away all your possessions and relationships and die at 45 of cirrhosis.
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Because those mushrooms look like DICKS
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>>55451689
Yeah you just end up dead instead.
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>>55451666
Except in places where it's legal and you can actually go out and buy legitimate alternative forms beyond smoking. Luckily it's still not as harsh on your lungs as tobacco smoke.


Either way faggots need to stop pretending "bad for your lungs" is an argument.
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>>55451267
cuz gobment sabs so
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Following the thesis of the 60's counterculture movement was the anti-thesis of the "war on drugs". The synthesis is inbound as we can see with the decriminalization around the world.
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>>55451689
Yeah, because alcoholics are the most smart well-adjudted people.
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>>55451732
>restricted

how is alchol restricted other than from minors? Any adult can get liquor. And it does MUCH worse damage to you than smoking

Are you saying marijuana should be restricted at the same level as alcohol? If so then I'm all for it, but if you're suggesting it's somehow worse and needs to be restricted then you're being foolish
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>>55451843
>we don't all end up dead anyway
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>>55451343
Which one is the woman one?
The Monty Python actors are male.
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>>55451267
LEGALIZE RANCH!
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>>55451689
The main difference being you get violent then go out and crash your car into a bus full of children.

Meanwhile the stoner is playing video games and driving like miss daisy out of paranoia.
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>>55451619
Prohibition and national women's suffrage happened within a year of each other
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>>55451267
>You have 3 seconds to explain why DMT, LSD, hallucinogenic mushrooms, hallucinogenic cacti and Cannabis are illegal
How about this.
White people do drugs while Muslims can't.
What do Muslims do? Fuck and get a job.
What do white people do? Die out.
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>>55451968
Behold the SJW of the past, still ugly as sin and trying to take away things people like more than them.
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>>55451267
Drugs mess with your brain. That, and they're plain trashy.
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If it were possible to ban the current culture surrounding the drugs instead of the drugs themselves, I would!
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>>55452090
>Drugs mess with your brain.
Care to explain how exactly psychedelics "mess" with your brain and why is it bad?
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>>55452129
Drugs are just bad, Mmkay?


I love watching half of /pol/ go full hypocritical totalitarian when these threads pop up.
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>>55451868
>>55451843
>>55451810
>>55451750
Enjoy your brain cells dying, short term memory damage and lung cancer. All provided by a degenerate junkie growing weed in his basement.

In the end of the day, alcohol has nutritional value and can provide health benefits in moderation. Fuck your weed, you sissy cunts.
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>>55452280
Lmao I WILL enjoy it, fuck off.
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I don't go to raves. Don't go to hippy tripping drum circle fag shit. But I do love shrooming by myself once every few months. It feels like it recharges my batteries and keeps me on the right track.

If anything it has made me less degenerate since I started doing them regularly about 3 yrs ago. All from revelations while tripping balls on some big fag mushies. I see the world for what it is while tripping. All the fake shit seems to fall apart.

I do promote shrooms for medical usage. I am very against using them as in irresponsible ways, like at parties/for fun, etc.
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>>55452236

confirmed for having never tried a psychedelic
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>>55452320
>Lmao
Hope your wife enjoys a limp dick at 40.
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>>55452129
I have a friend who smokes pot and does acid. He was a douchebag before that. Now he barely qualifies as human.

I have another friend who doesn't do drugs.
Well... At least he's still a douchebag.
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>>55451267
DMT, PCP, LSD, cocaine, heroin ans so on have to be manufactured with chemicals, whereas marijuana and mushrooms occur naturally and have been cultuvated for thousands of years.

It should be an obvious difference.
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>>55451375
About to marry one, pretty great desu senpai
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>>55451375
About to marry one, pretty great tbqh fàm
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>>55452090
Yeah, drugs are, by definition, substances that change the way the body works. Why are they bad though?
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>>55452366
Sarcasm you ijjit.
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Because fighting the war on drugs made politicians popular because they convinced drugs were better off illegal even though they most certainly are not.

The people who advocate drug prohibition don't have a clue about economics. If there's a demand for something, there will be supply for it too. If the government makes supplying illegal, people who operate outside the law become the new suppliers.
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>>55452417
Who cares whether it's natural or not? Ebola is natural, but it's still bad for you.
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>>55452417
nice bait appeal to nature
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Who owns your mind?
I own my own mind.
And that is why I just saw my dog turn into a bicycle.
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>>55451267
•Psychedelics are the glasses from "they live!", that's why they're mostly illegal(with some exceptions).
•Weed is illegal because we haven't gotten over Hearst's bullshit from the 30s. It's a persistent kinda bullshit.
•Stimulants are illegal because they make people more productive and less likely to consume food, and government wants people on the welfare dole.
•Opiates are illegal because they work better and cause less damage(when used correctly) than alcohol.

Research chemicals can be great substitutes.
There is a large handful of them that are as good or superior to the banned drugs.
Wanna know more?
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>>55452363
>taking hallucinogens helps me see the world how it REALLY is

This is why they should be illegal, OP. These drugs obviously turn people retarded.
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My friend just buys weed of the deep web, it comes in smell proof packages right to his doorstep, he buys it from south africa and its incredibly good quality, and it's only 2 dollars a gram, I smoked it with him and I was high for a good 6+ hours
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>>55451267
Jesus and bouddha unrecommended drugs, they modify your mind you don't live your life as you have to
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>>55452478
They change it in a bad way.

Besides, it's just plain trashy. Nothing says 'degenerate' like resorting to drugs to make you feel gooode.

And please spare me the 'it's for artistic inspiration and experimentation' delusional speech: the best painters, musicians and writers in humankind never did drugs.

So fuck off.
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Cause of Jews.
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>>55452280
>brain cells dyning
>short term memory damage

thats all alcohol related too nigger.

Alcohol is the most dangerous drug right after heroin and something.

>but m..muh part of culture

no fuck off
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>>55452280
>cells dying, short term memory damage
But those are things caused by alcohol.
>>55452398
It just sounds like your friends are generally bad people, nothing to do with drugs. Not surprising since they're Argentinians.
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>>55452650
I'm actually not that upset with some opiates being illegal. The heroin epidemic sweeping the US shows that society can barely handle outpatient prescription pain meds.
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>>55452576
So people don't have the right to choose.

>>55452581
No, more a comment on the ease of home production for the average citizen. To my knowledge, coxaine is used in medicine as a topical pain killer, and its legal to produce if someone has the proper licenses and oversight. It becomes a public safety concern when a dropout or illiterate Mexican is mixing chemicals in his garage.
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>>55451267
Because like fuck someone is going to go back to his cubicle after having experienced the fourth dimension.
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>>55451526
shut up you zimbabwe ass nigga
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>>55451607
i had sex with your mother
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>>55451476
Found the druggie.
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>>55452778
The heroin epidemic is caused precisely because Rx painkillers are getting very hard to obtain and very expensive.
The same thing happened to cocaine in the early 80s. Government cracked down and it lead to the use of meth and crack as cheaper replacements.
Supply and demand.

Heroin is quite safe when taken orally, especially in a pure form. Causes no organ damage at all.
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>>55451689
>i'm losing the argument, let me just reference some bullshit stereotype!
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>>55452814
>>55452834
Found the 16 year old.
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>>55451808
This. At this point these 5 special interests are what keeps these hands of god from being illegal.
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>>55451267
anyone who does drugs should be shot in the head.
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>>55452280
stupidest thing i've ever heard
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>>55451267

>You have 3 seconds

because the ab-
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>>55452906
I am a 30yo chemist.
What is your background in pharmacological agents?
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>>55452955
So, basically everyone then?
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>>55452889
Well yeah, but do you expect doctors to be allowed to feed people's addiction (Florida pill mills excluded)?
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>>55452417
dmt can be extracted from natural sources and in a number of cases its not necessary like in the case of ayahuasca.
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>>55452798
this
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Alcohol is more degenerate than weed.
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>>55452977
ive never done drugs in my life. Maybe its just you foreign retards who like poisoning yourself.
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>>55452921

i haven't smoked pot in years, but WOW WTF
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>>55452955
don't cut yourself on that edge, pal
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>>55453017
So no coffee, no alcohol, nothing? Sounds like you have a boring life then.
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>>55451267
>why

Because Congress voted to make them illegal.
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>>55452738
>It just sounds like your friends are generally bad people, nothing to do with drugs. Not surprising since they're Argentinians.
Douchebags aren't bad people; they're just that: douchebags. (Remember that by definition all junkies are douchebags.)

Doing drugs denounces your inability to appreciate the finer -and grander- things in life. So that's why they call you degenerate, degenerate.
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>>55451267
Cannabis is shit and shouldn't be mentioned with those other drugs
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>>55451267
government likes structure. hallucinogens produce the opposite. it's also better for the economy. if shrooms were legal it would be the cheapest way to have a good time.
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>>55452906
joke's on you, i'm 15 faggot.
I'm turning 18 tomorrow tho
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>>55452921
It's fucking beautiful

>Corrupt politicians and special interests groups are the only reason you can't go out and buy some of this right now.
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>>55452921
beautiful anon.. fap fap fap..
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>>55453035
dont overdose on your crack, dipshit, oh wait too late.
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ITT: filthy statists want to justify why governments should ban me from doing things with my own body
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>>55452889
You'd have to be a complete moron to actually believe that.
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>>55453074
my life is filled with the endless entertainment of jesus christ. You could learn a thing or two, junkie faggot. go get aids from a dirty needle shoved right up your asshole.
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>>55453158
sick comeback dude, it's funny because drugs r bad!
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>>55453203
Is that how you think that works?
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>>55453203
Jesus drank wine, he was a filthy drug consumer.
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>>55451267
Because they're beneficial substances that don't fit the agenda of poisoning our everything supply

MORE XENOESTROGENS
MORE ALCOHOL
MORE HORMONES
MORE FLUORIDE
MORE MERCURY
MORE GANGSTER RAP
MORE IMPORTED FOOD FROM POO IN LOO COUNTRIES
MORE CARBS ON THE FOOD PYRAMID
MORE SUGAR
MORE BLEACHED FLOWER
MORE MICROWAVED FOOD
MORE NUTRITIONALLY DEPRIVED VEGETABLES AND FRUITS

MORE MORE MORE
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>>55452975
Do you ever come down?
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>>55453279
that was a time before education, retard.
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>>55453279
Wine is not a drug, dumbass.
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>>55453247
I think your too doped to even read correctly.
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>>55453352
>alcohol is not a drug

dumbass
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>>55453203
>My heart is filled with the love Jesus Christ
>Now go die you filthy scum

Typical Christian
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>>55452988
Under their supervision? Yes.
I think it should be allowed, with attempts at counseling and other efforts NOT law-related to get the addict off of the opiates.

Make no mistake, the opiates are only really dangerous because they're illegal. Stepped on heroin with fentanyl added is a drug-war caused problem. Injecting heroin is a drug-war problem. No one injected opiates for the most part before they were banned, because they were cheap and addicts didn't have to stretch out their supply.

And opiates only got banned due to the "yellow peril" fear mongering of the late 1800s.
Cocaine wasn't even considered for a ban until people started talking about "negroes using cocaine and becoming feral, raping your wives!"
Every drug that was banned was banned completely on fearmongering, mostly using racism.
Rather than banning negroes and chinks, the fucks banned drugs instead.
But the niggers are still here, raping and causing problems, despite cocaine and cannabis being illegal.
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>>55453404
That's Best Christian, dumbfuck.
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>>55453392

shut up italy.
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>>55453364
Well I just assumed you thought all injections worked anally.

Like maybe a few sticks of marijuana up the bum would mellow you out.
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>>55453404
>wanting addicts to live

may as well just let the liberals win.
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>>55451267
Niggers. It was done to help suppress niggers.

I'm fine with legalization and taxing them. The taxes should go directly to medicare.
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>>55451267
>3 seconds
Because Nixon.
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>>55453445
you know a lot about sticks up the bum don't you faggot?
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>>55453507
Sticking things up the ass was your go-to, not mine.
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>>55453463
Actually more Mexicans but close enough
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>>55453189
It's absolutely true though.
All you need to do is see how safely drugs are used before they're banned.
Cocaine, cannabis, opiates, etc. And alcohol was far more dangerous during US prohibition than before or after.

>>55453324
Not really. Speed and caffeine are my fuel.

>>55453352
Ethanol is a pharmacologically active compound. It is most certainly a drug. It's also registered by the FDA as a drug, used to treat methanol poisoning.
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>>55451267
Ok, but this will start a slide. I'm pretty sure of it.

Cannabis is illegal more so originally because of hemp and how much it threatens old money textile giant corporations. Now, it's a combination of that and the threat to big pharmaceutical giants.
The rest, because in varying degrees they each open up your mind to stronger levels of introspection and questioning your reality, even after the trip ends.
DMT, despite being a chemical released organically through the biological response of sleeping and triggers dreaming, is illegal because depending on your intentions for doing it, you can get exactly what you ask for(answers to many of life's questions) and your ego is usually temporarily wiped through an experience called ego death. After the trip, if you want to call it that, you could find yourself more happy, warm, calm, and just generally feeling at peace. It lasted for me a few days.
For more on that, and so you can understand it better yourself without being told directly, you should try reading the book of the dead from Tibettan Buddhism. All of my understanding from DMT is from the syrian rue w mimosa method so I can't say anything bout smoking it, personally. But I have heard that smoking it is like a super intense but incredibly shorter version of it, without the lasting residual effects.
LSD I haven't messed with, but I've read and heard testimonials involving life changing experiences. There's also a video of when it was tested on a group of soldiers, I can't remember which branch or country, and as they get further into their patrol they are just giggling and laughing and having a grand ol' time.
Shrooms are illegal because of competition with big pharma on certain diseases and disorders, but it's primarily illegal because of their ease of finding them, and because they, like all psychoactive substances, open your mind to the possibility that everything you're told may not be true, and you're no longer an obedient part of the rat race.
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>>55453536
are you a retard? you stick more things up your ass every day just trying to get high than a retarded gay african.
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>>55451267
SHILL THREAD: THIS IS SUBVERSION
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>>55445116
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>>55453658
So you do think all drugs are done anally?

Well at least you confirmed it for me, kek.
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>>55453660
we don't care about your shitty thread and your cacked out conspiracies

>>>/x/
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>>55453660
Just found Yuri did ya?

Wait till you get into the history of money and banking, you'll be screaming down every thread on /pol/.
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>>55452417
Whoa, son. Only the smoked form of DMT requires chemical additions. Not the ayahuasca version, which is how the original shamans did it.
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>>55453595
No, we keep the laws in place because of various spics. They became the suppliers when we banned them all. Before we just grew our own shit. But now we have the war on drugs and those fucking cartels. If we kill off both then things will get better.
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nice phimosis mushrooms
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>>55453718
I think your brain must have left you anally.
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>>55453412
>DXM
Did this shit almost every day for ~4 months several years ago. (Delsym and Mucinex). Tried to be careful and do my research, but I'm still surprised I didn't die. Especially since I started drinking a fuckton of grapefruit juice to enhance it. Idk desu, it felt amazing, but anyone who hasn't experienced it or had a crappy robo trip in high school seems to find it as degenerate as drinking listerine or sniffing glue.
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>>55453814
Smoked DMT is just DMT extracted from its plant source. When you smoke a psychoactive substance, it goes directly into the bloodstream and to the brain, for a "rush" experience.
Oral administration of DMT makes it lose effect due to MAO enzymes in the stomach that deactivate the compound. This is why MAOIs are used in ayahuasca brews, to deactivate the MAO enzymes and allow the DMT to pass into the blood. The harmine and harmaline alkaloids also play an effect in the trip, changing its nature, and are also responsible for the "purge" vomiting that takes place with ayahuasca.
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>>55451267
because the goverment dont want us to experiance with our mind and start thinking for ourself
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>>55451704
why?
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I tried 3 tabs of LSD for the first time a few days ago.
10/10 best experience of my life, will never do again.
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>>55453994
DXM is a legit psychoactive compound, and it's ONLY legal now because it's the ONLY effective non-narcotic cough suppressant.
Make no mistake, government would have it banned overnight if they could get away with it.

I dislike dissociatives myself. Too closed off. I prefer stims and psyches.
Pic is some of my personal stash. I just received 5g of 5-MAPB and 5g of 3-MMC today, two days shipped DHL from Spain.
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>>55452280
> alcohol has nutritional value and can provide HEALTH benefits
jesus louisus
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>>55451267
because they make you highly suggestible which would allow local demagogues to undo the long-term zog brainwashing.
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>>55453660
They are going to slide and shill no matter what. So, what do you do? You can't just keep doing the same thing that get's paltry results, right? So, you put a reply in many threads while staying relevant to the the subject, just going full disclosure mode, destroying the oppositions argument and revealing the agenda behind it.
Eventually all threads will be slid, and it will become too visually jarring to not notice, even for the normies and reddits that come here. Adapt and overcome, anons.
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>>55451437
Sauce on cannibis hurting your lungs?
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>>55454314
Keyword: MODERATION.
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>>55454420
Inhaling smoke of any kind will hurt your lungs.
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Because several prisons in the United States have a minimum number of occupants or else the ENTIRE STATE gets sued. Also a number of these drugs are easy to make yourself so that means zero taxes, which means no profits for the big guys which means a big N.O. Combine that with no lobbies representing these markets due to outdated research and high scheduling means that they will say no because in 1960 some monkeys got brain damage for cannabis smoke inhalation. Its a number of reasons.

>tldr
>LOADS O MONAYY
>Cops and jailers need jobs
>Hard to tax
>No research

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/private-prison-quotas_n_3953483.html
http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/inc_Trends_in_Corrections_Fact_sheet.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America
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>Cannabis illegal

WEED LOL
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>how can white men even compete
>tfw
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>>55452280
This was terrible, try harder.
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>>55454420
Inhaling ANY smoke will cause lung damage.
Vaping is a much less damaging method, with no damage potential.

If you only toke up once in a while, the damage is not a problem and is easily healed.
But one should always seek to minimize damage in drug use, so vaporization is a great substitute.
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>>55454072
Indeed. You can do things to help reduce the purge reaction, however. If you take one to two hard boiled eggs(depending on size of the brew) and put them in it until they become completely hardened, they soak up the tannins that cause you to want to puke.
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>>55454439
have you totally missed out the health benefits of cannabis ?
i live in northen Sweden so i dont care what happends in the major citys
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>>55452390
You are a really dedicated troll, but you are being too obvious.
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>>55454568
Puking is an important part of an ayahuasca trip. A shaman will encourage you to allow it, as it symbolizes negativity leaving your body.

If you wanna trip without gutwrench, just use LSD, a tryptamine+ginger, or a phenethylamine+ginger. Rectal administration helps as well.

Psychedelics are serotonergic agents, and can agonize the 5-HT3 receptors in the stomach, causing nausea and vomiting, as well as the shits.
The ginger taken beforehand fills up those 5-HT3 receptors, cutting down the nausea effect.
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>>55453298

THIS
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>>55454439
So basically the same as with any other drugs, dumbass.
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>>55451267
What people put into their bodies is nothing to do with me, unless it affects me, my family or friends.

In that case, war. Utter wrecking.
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Because its a big game where they want you to think you're rebelling by taking the drugs, instead of playing into their alchemy. They get more out of energy manipulation this way. Plus they're looking for people who can take all the pitfalls in stride while still choosing love.
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>>55451267

This is now a Terrence McKenna thread.
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>>55451267
>http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/singer-nick-caves-son-fell-to-death-after-taking-lsd/ar-CCco2O?ocid=ansmsnent11
literally on the front page news
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>>55454469
>>55454567
Oh totally, but he said cannibis in general, not smoking cannibis, there is a plethora of ways to ingest THC that don't require smoking at all.
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>>55451267
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>>55451267
Cause fuck you!
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>>55455243
You'll like this one-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoZk1EXMWNI

He talks like Mr.Rogers. Ever notice that?

More on Shulgin-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXHyKyoHJzo
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>>55455477

Thank you.

RIP kind-hearted Shulgin & Terrence.
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>>55455301
This is why you don't use LSD when you're still a child. Same reason you don't get drunk when you're still a child.
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Because it doesn't cause you demage, keep you calm and happy, and alcohol makes u violent...
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>>55455554
When I see the part in Dirty Pictures of the cops harassing Sasha about his lab safety, I just wanna kill the fucks, as a chemist myself.

What nerve, what unbridled bullshit gall they have lecturing a PhD chemist about lab safety, being fucking state welfare queen goons.
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>>55455617
>LSD
>Calm
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=345_1440707223
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>>55455767
this guy is such a pseudointellectual faggot
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>>55451267
Lel

Looks like a bunch of PENISes
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>>55455792
Any proof that he was on LSD?
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>>55455877
Yea he said it was during his arrest interview. The reddit link in the description has several more stories of violent LSD psychosis.
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>>55454285

anon where are you doing your shopping?
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>>55455829
So would you suck them?
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>>55455795

Oops, it was cut off...

Very eccentric, but he was a genuine multitalented genius, have you ever heard him for more than 5 minutes?

I have listened to over 40 hours of his talks, his works speak for themself.
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>>55455554
>muh hemp
God I can't stand you druggy shits.
The declaration of independence is printed on parchment aka. Sheepskin not fucking hemp.

You people literally never pass up an opportunity to drag your addictions into everything.
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>>55451267
To keep the leash tight. These substances blow the lid off the bullshit narrative we've been fed growing up and creates a new paradigm, can't have that now can we?
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>>55456064
Any that you recommend?
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“Armaments, universal debt, and planned obsolescence—those are the three pillars of Western prosperity. If war, waste, and moneylenders were abolished, you'd collapse. And while you people are overconsuming the rest of the world sinks more and more deeply into chronic disaster.” -Huxley

The truth is that psychedelics DO point people toward universal truth and salvation. The problem is the mechanistic and selfish culture we live in. Psychedelics will not lead people into truth if they are still prey to the materialistic culture that dominates the Western World, only into a transcendent experience (positive or negative, it's a "Good Trip" or a "Bad Trip", but there's no learning experience that changes the individual). You CAN abuse LSD or mushrooms, just opening and closing the same door to higher consciousness with never progressing further.

You need to have a cultural background and community re-enforced experience to really have psychadelics have a positive role in society, otherwise it's going to lead people into repetitive ego-death and they'll become over-spiritualized and won't apply it in their lives (see: Hippy movement, modern liberals who spoke pot, etc.). If we treated LSD like a sacrament, like the ancient greeks did with their psychedelic liquor (The Eleusinian Mysteries) that made you a part of the community and gave you a sense of the afterlife (neo-platonic paganism, e.g. pseudo-Christian agnosticism) we wouldn't have any problems.
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>>55456065

OK!
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>>55453412
>4-HO-MET
>4-ACO-DMT
2 of the best trips I've ever had.
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>>55455975
>Yea he said it was during his arrest interview.
How does he know? Could have been a DOx compound, an NBOMe compound, or he might have been using a stimulant like MDPV and lied about it being LSD. Where's the proof?

>>55456007
Biochem Lab Supply
ChemicalStory*
Coolchems*
ChemicalServices
Smokey's Chem Shop*
Highsupply*

I prefer companies that take other forms of payment than fucking bitshits. I HATE bitcoins. All of the above have been very good suppliers. Professional and courteous. Especially the ones with a *

>>55456064
He was definitely out there. A well-meaning and brilliant fellow though, whose mind seemed to run a step ahead of what most people grasp.
Alan Watts was another good lecturer to listen to.
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>>55456416
>How does he know? Could have been a DOx compound, an NBOMe compound, or he might have been using a stimulant like MDPV and lied about it being LSD. Where's the proof?

Do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise? The only proof that there is was his word and he said it was LSD. I don't get why it's hard for you to grasp either, psychedelics cause psychosis all the time and people are capable of anything if they're psychotic. You can even get psychosis from pot.
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>>55451267
Because drugs are bad for your health.
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>>55456416
>Could have been...
This. I've done LSD a handful of times and the experience gap between the mad-hatter I got from the silk road and the blank tabs I got from a dealer was markedly huge. Definitely not the same thing, of course my dealer didn't synth it, he just bought it from someone claiming that it's LSD, definitely not though. I still haven't found any on the street that doesn't have a sour or bitter taste to it (indicators that it is not lysergic acid)
Probably was all fucked up on NBOMe and raving mad.
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>>55456242
>planned obsolescence
It's true.
I never understood this shit.
It's holding humanity in a state of despair and lack of technological investment.
The most important intellectual point of view is not blind acceptance.
Challenge everything. Accept nothing.
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>>55456105

I recommend that if you have the time, go to piratebay, or kickasstorrents and download the entire McKenna collection, his books are excellent as well, but haven't read them all yet.

If you don't have much time, the one talk that comes to mind is with Nicole in the rainforest, (only because of very rare information passed on).

Out of his books Food of the Gods was really a great adventure, informative, and especially interesting was their concept of resonance, alchemy and iirc a sort of physicists interpretation of the psychedelic experience by Terrence & his brother Dennis.
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>>55451267
not my personal opinion but
>because drugs are dangerous and govt is meant to protect its citizens
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>>55452921
Sweet baby jesus
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>>55456607

Don't argue with this guy, he's a self indulgent aspie who'll literally stop the meditative, enlightened act in its tracks if you disagree with them. He's only willing to participate in discussions that he's looked at as a learned expert, and will abandon thread or shitpost if that's taken away from him. not like getting advice from someone who dedicated their lives to taking research Chems is a good idea anyways...
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Because Nixon wanted to end the anti-war movement. Duh.
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>>55453625
>once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
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>>55452001
Muslims do plenty of drugs m8
t. Muslim
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>>55451526
hi sperglord... wanna buy some magic?
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>>55456607
>Do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise?
No, but then again I'm not making a positive claim.
His reaction DOES fit a profile more attuned to NBOMe trips going bad, and NBOMes are sold as LSD to unsuspecting dipshits.

Though a really high dose of LSD could cause such a strong reaction, especially in someone with a manic metal disorder.
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>>55456416
>>55456416

Though all the RC vendors explicitly state that it's not for human consumption and only for lab research purposes, are there any particular judiciary risks? If so, how do you circumvent them to prevent getting a "love letter" or a visit to your home?
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>>55452955
haha grandpa what the fuck are you posting
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>>55451267
Because governments want to limit drug use as much as possible, this isn't rocket appliances. Drug users on average contribute less than non-drug users to society in general.
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>>55451267
because jews told americans they should be and americans forced this on everyone else

G-d bless 'murika
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>>55457064
Unless you're buying lots of shit(100+g, which makes you seem like a dealer to the 5-0), there's really no risk except a seized package by customs and a love letter telling you they stole your shit.

I've never seen a case of anyone getting popped for buying these materials in normal-use quantities.
Just make sure you do all the research you can on any compound you plan to try. DO NOT underestimate this.
Erowid, bluelight, psychonaut wiki, tripsit, and r/researchchemicals are all great resources to start from.

NEVER make it seem like you plan on consuming the materials to any seller, or they'll drop you like a rock for legal reasons.
If asked for a reason you wish to buy, just tell the seller you collect strange and uncommon chemical reagents as a hobby.
Or maybe they you wish to calibrate TLC plates.
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>>55456416

Yes Watts is great as well, a lot stodgier though.

If you like Watts the prolific translator Thomas Cleary.
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>>55457403

Sorry, check him out, i meant.
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>>55451267
Jewwws want to keep whayt men down
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>>55456756
hahaha smoke some weed dude
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>>55457388

Dearly noted. Thanks.

In terms for productivity and focus, what's your go-to chem?
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>>55452921

So what's the difference between weed? I've smoked off and on for years, but I can't really tell a difference between swag and "the good shit" except that one makes me want to sleep faster than the other. It's just all THC still right?
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>>55451267
Why is cocaine illegal?
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>>55452477
>>55452445
le samefag
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>>55451267
>Job security for cops (makes their jobs easier to decrinilize, amirite?)
>pharmaceutical lobbies
>niggers ruining it for everyone else
> hallucinogens helps to open your mind to new ways of thinking, powers that be can;t have that
> old white trivs that think its evil
> muh jesus
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>>55451689
>Drinking doesnt make you braindead

retard
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>>55457856
Different strains will have different ratios of THC to other canabanoids such as CBD, different ratios mean different highs. Unless u live in a legal state or have a med card it's to judge the good from the bad because u just have to take ur dealers word for it.
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>>55451267
Feelings
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>>55457761
3-FPM all the way. A gentle, light stimulant like a soft adderall, that has no side effects that I've seen. Though I always avoid redosing stimulants.
2-FMA is great as well, but it was recently banned in China meaning it's going to be hard to find anymore.
Adderall itself is great, but can be more habit forming and a bit more manic.
See my stim chart here- >>55452650
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>>55457915
Because white people thought that niggers on cocaine were going to start raping their wives.
So they banned coke.
But the niggers raped their wives anyway, completely defeating the point of banning cocaine.
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>>55451267
Culture.
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>>55452280
>brain cells dying
You could have more brain cells than there are atoms in the observable universe, but that doesn't mean shit if they aren't connected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ-OoNp3LwQ
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>>55457856

>>55458260

This.

Also there is a big difference between sativa which imo is superior and indica which is more for chilling at home, couch lock and helping ease pain or sleep disorders to sleep.

Sativa is more of a brain food. It helps to be creative, or with intelligence-requiring endeavors, it's a lot more of a mystic experience.
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>>55451267
I can't
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>>55452280
>He is from NSA
Proxy confirmed, I checked it twice.
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>>55458539

Nice. Fucking saved!
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>>55459497
I'm making one for tryptamines next.
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>>55452532
/thread
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>>55459999
It's a war against science and economics, which means the government doesn't stand a chance.
Of course they know they don't stand a chance. They don't care though. More problems means more excuses for them to jerk off.
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Where da Alan Watts fags here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV7FLlRmuf0
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>>55461025

I'm a watts fag - bite your own teeth and all that, kin
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>>55461099
Mah nigga.
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>>55461260

You the Watts fag from that thread that got /trash/ed the other day or are there far more of us hidden away here on on /pol/.
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>>55452921
Alaskan Thunder Fuck took me to a pretty dark place last time I smoked it. No lie.
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>>55461373

Watts is great!
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>>55461380

I like McKenna, Turkey... but you gotta admit, he's not gonna sway normies and autists, too much of a negative brand due to people misunderstanding him. There has to be a bridge in philosophy to begin to appreciate McKenna, or else it just sounds like the ramblings of a drug addict. He is a very, very fun speaker though.
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because not everyone is ok to do this sort of thing op

ive seen people freak the fuck out from even just weed before
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>>55461373
I'm that guy from /v/ who dumped a bunch of dragon ball images I took from 2012 and my thread got trashed.
And that guy that taught sci what pH was.
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>>55455312
What does that even mean?
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>>55461544

Some people can't and shouldn't use drugs. They are unable to separate reality from the experience during drug use. Drugs are like a different lens with which to view reality and can be a tool for learning and reflection, but it's important to understand that it is not "reality". Bad trips can be avoided, even on weed, but some people don't have the substance of character to do so.
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>>55453117
I went out and bought some just now at the weed store. Arizona is half rad half shit. But man is this legal ganja rad.
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>>55451267

drugs are a very slippery slope, most people use them as a crutch as opposed to the tiny few who use them responsibly. Basically they are slave tools like the ooga booga feelys or the other silly BNW control techniques, they exist to distract you from misery instead of destroying the cause
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>>55461498

Yes I agree, there are definitely better gateway speakers. Some of his close friends like Rupert Sheldrake would be a good example. Huxley too.
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>>55461763
i like to smoke weed but pretty much every other person i know who smokes weed lets it dictate anything they do

if theres no weed involved or allowed you can bet they will not be there

people like to say weed isn't addictive but that's bullshit it can control your mind if you let it
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I just watched an x-files episode where people munched mushrooms, started seeing dead folk, who started killing and raping people.
Don't do drugs, weird things happen. I saw it on T.V.
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>>55462440

We're in full agreement here.
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