Hello everybody,
I am no expert on the topic and have just read some articles, etc. But I would like to raise some questions about mafias in general and Italian mafias in particular.
Yes, mafiaS. It's plural. And not just because you can have a different mafia for each ethnic community in your melting-pot country... especially in Italy, mafias have developed somewhat separately, each of them within their own regions of control; sometimes in unison and sometimes fighting each other for territory.
Such mafias have specific features that are unique to each of them. I don't know the whole list, but it is interesting to notice the differ in:
>administrative structure
>rituals
>attitude toward religion
>share of the black market they control
>preferred mode of action (political infiltration, corruption, smuggling, human trafficking, or any combination of these)
>entrepreneurial goals
>spoken dialect
>etc.
So here I will try to brief those of you who are interested in the topic with some basic notions to understand the phenomenon (e.g. its origin, dimension, etc.).
Just give me some feedback and -- hey -- if someone is more expert than I am and wants to call me out on my bullshit or wants to contribute with their own country's experience, you are all more than welcome to interact.
Now I'll keep going, but I have prepared no posts, so there is no specific plan for the discussion. All questions are welcome and I'll try to answer them to the best of my knowledge.
>spoken dialect and regional ethnic identification
One of the things Italians love to talk about is how divided they are.
Now, ethnographically speaking, Italians have the tendency to stress a bit too much on differences and not enough on similarities. According to their own view, there are striking differences even in a 20 km radius. Although this may be true in many relevant cases, truth is that there are some broad areas of shared linguistic background, which resulted in regional language variations on the same structure.
In fact, the map has the following broad language groups:
>Sicilian languages
>Neapolitan languages
>Middle Italian languages
>Tuscan language
>Gaul-Italian languages
>>Venetian language (which is a subset of the Gaul Italian, in my opinion, even though with remarkable historical differences)
>Retro-Roman languages
>Languages of minorities (a mixed bag of French, German, Albanian, etc.)
>>70636267
If you look at the map, it looks like a mess, but please consider the following things:
>the same colour (e.g. green) means same dialect. Yes, there are some slang variants, but people within the same colour area are assumed to understand each other pretty well
>The further you go, the hardest it is to understand each other when speaking dialect. A guy in the top left green will have less issues going south-west (towards Bologna), but many more issues going East (because the Furlan area is very different).
>Even so, many understand quite well the Tuscan and Middle Italian (Rome) accents and languages because they are the cornerstone of Standard Contemporary Italian
>Because of MSM, fascist propaganda and nationalism, dialects have always been regarded as low-tier languages -- linked to the countryside and thus meant to be forgotten qua illiterate and barbaric.
>Of course, this kind of ideological regime propaganda is bullshit because most of these languages have evolved as national languages of the Princedoms and Free States of Italy. E.g. Venetian has been spoken and written as the official language of the Venetian Republic for some 1,000 years (until Napoleon fucked up the place) and still survives to date
>Another thing to remark is that, again because of schooling, MSM, etc. younger generation and highly urbanized areas have lost their touch with the original languages of their own regional motherland. So do not expect everyone to stick to the stereotype. Some regions are more resilient than other ones to nationalization
>>70636267
>>70636402
I have talked a bit about Italian languages because it helps us understand in which condition Italy was when mafia happened.
Of course, mafia did not happen overnight, but was the result of a political and economical transition Italians call "Risorgimento".
"Risorgimento" [insurgence, uprising] refers to all those civil wars and proxy regional revolts that resulted in the unification of the Peninsula.
It goes unsaid that such project of unification got advantage of the redneck plebs thank to easy propaganda, but it was mainly a project from the "enlightened" romantic bourgeoisie that was getting wealthy and was pissed off by all those feudal constraints to a free market.
Yes.
>The main reason for the uprisings was the creation of an Italian free market.
There were, of course, other reasons:
>People were pissed off with Napoleon, who was supposed to create a Pan-Italian State and instead ended up selling bits and pieces to foreign countries. Anyway, he lost, so these foreign countries had it easy slicing the Italian pie. Many were pissed off by foreign rule.
>Pseudo-socialist and communist ideologies. Throughout the 20th Century there were widespread "statist" ideologies among the encultured elites of the country. Some advocated monarchy, others Republic, others wanted to cut the Pope's head off, etc. So, during the process of unification, each of these factions fought for different goals and shit.
>Piedmont was frankly trying to expand and become hegemonic in the Peninsula. It had best railways and shit, and its ruling monarchy had lost most ties with their Trans-Alpine (read: French) territory of origin (Savoy) and they had become fully Italian and interested in Italian politics and shit.
>Trump supporters
>Silverstein
>>70635161
>Silverstein
Really going to believe that this is real?
>Bernie supporters
Alright /pol/, I consider myself to be libertarian on all social issues, and I have a moderately liberal stance on economics (I don't believe socialism nor a completely free-market is viable, I think there needs to be some control on big companies, like prevention of monopolies.)
So /pol/, red pill me, logically explain to me why my beliefs are wrong. Give me a logical argument that explains why I'm wrong past "brainwashed liberal."
>>70635082
bump
>>70635082
You do know that the government creates monopolies right? The only way for companies can be monopolies nowadays is because the government makes them.
>>70635548
Fuck me with those typos
Where were you when tolerance destroyed /pol/'s "don't transition young trans children" narrative?
>>70634906
you realize that everyone here is just going to say
>NPR
as if that's an actual argument, right?
NPR should be defunded
>>70634906
>Large report suggesting transgender children have bad mental health from it
>This comes out
You can't make this up.
Post best before /pol/ after /pol/ pics
>>70634890
OC here, this worked out perfectly.
>>70634890
So basically /pol/ makes people change their sex? I thought /pol/ was against transsexuals.
/pol/, would you marry a woman who has never had vaginal sex, but plenty of anal?
>>70634706
where did you find this magificient gondola and why would i never fuck a girl who's still a virgin ?
>>70634813
Some Brazilian poster on this board made it.
Keep in mind LGBT folks tend to make up a much larger voting base in the Democratic primary than in the general.
>>70634630
Polls seem to suggest that lgbt much prefer Hillary.
>>70634630
I think they'll vote for Trump for the lulz. This will help him to get the presidential preselection, at which point the Republican party will implode and divide into a series of small splinter parties, including the Butthurt Wall-building Party, the Butthurt White Trash Party, and the Butthurt Reality TV Watchers Party. Also, Republicans give sexual diversity a bad name with people like Dennis Hastert all too common. Why are so many republicans homophobes but also sexual deviants?
Almost forgot it doesn't include transsexuals in that question. So it's not 100% representing the LGBT community.
IS this the reason why americans want to build a wall so desperately?
Is it to keep away the BBC (big beaner cock)?
Just how small is the average american dick if we take out the BBCs raising their average?
Does this have to do with genetics or is it that circumcision done at an early age stunts penile growth?
Can /pol/ and more importantly americutlets EVER RECOVER?
BFC
BIG FINNISH COCK
6.5 inch mongolian monster cock reporting in
>>70634514
Finno-Ugrics win again
>also
Straya explain yourself
> be black
> grew up around white people
> always talked like a normal person
> when i try to talk to street niggers in "ebonics" or whatever it's called, i end up sounding like a redneck and stand out even more
what have you done to me
Nigger
>>70634475
No you
>>70634190
We've uplifted you.
I've seen your pain though. Where I'm from we have a small concentration of niggers alongside our black population, and watching them try to talk with each other just makes me feel bad, and sad.
Is this true /pol/? Political Correctness doesn't infringe freedom of speech?
who cares. nigger.
>>70634034
It discourages certain types of speech which in effect does infringe. Not that you should give a fuck. Nigger.
Translation:
>Shut up, asshole. You're not allowed to say, think, or believe anything without my ego's permission.
Has anyone been successful in formulating a critique of this man yet, /pol/, or was he flawless? Seriously asking.
I can't find a single flaw in his track record.
>took a feudal shithole and trasnformed it into a world superpower in one generation
>created reeducation / labour camps in Siberia where bourgeois ideologists could change their ways
>successfully purged American infiltrators / CIA agents
>defeated the Nazis
>cleaned Russia of greedy kulaks that were selfishly grabbing land who thought MUH PRODUCE, MUH LAND and MUH CABBAGE is more important than Dialectical Materialism
>>70633923
Stalin was based. Compared to him Hitler was a little overly emotional faggot fuckboi. Stalin was a man with a vision and a plan. A man who was brutally cunning, stoic, and highly intelligent. A man who gave no fucks. Men wanted to be him women wanted to be with him. He was a successful terrorist and a bank robber, a wanted man, but he managed to overthrow the system and then he rose to power killing kikes one by one.
So he killed a few million snowniggers. Boo fucking hoo let's all cry and sing Kumbaya faggots.
>Eating an unnatural diet of plants and letting your muscles waste away because 'muh sad oinkers/moomoos'
>Eating chicken tits shot up to high heaven with antibiotics
Everyone in these threads in always. fucking. wrong.
And retarded.
See this, pol? That's a big ole fucking plate of pan fried cicadas, and they're fucking delicious with some pickles. High in protein, essentially zero fat. Crunchy and kind of like spongy egg inside. With my cicadas, crickets, beetles, and meal worms I get the best of both worlds. Literally the most plentiful source of protein - being an 'insectarian' is the ultimate redpill.
Do we have to do this?
>>70633916
There are choices other than chicken and insects anon.
>>70633916
why dont africans do this?
White power
americans are sick disgusting degenerate creatures.
only an american would fuck his mother and announce it to the world with a smile.
>>70633879
They're English, m8 :^)
>>70633879
good bait
DCfag here
Democracy Spring is happening at Union Station
Not many of them there.
Anyone wanna swing by Union Station at lunch and have a bit of fun?
>>70633682
Throw molotovs at them
>>70633682
I've only heard RT reporting on this. is it big or is this just a Putin job to make the US look shittier?
Literally who?
Russia leaked it. It overwhelmingly hurt the West and Western politicians while nothing happend to Russia.There where no Americans because the russians are using it as blackmail.
this could have been a Russian intelligence operation, which orchestrated a high-profile leak and established total credibility by “implicating” (not really implicating) Russia and keeping the source hidden. Some documents would be used for anti-corruption campaigns in a few countries—topple some minor regimes, destroy a few careers and fortunes. By then blackmailing the real targets in the United States and elsewhere (individuals not in the current leak), the Russian puppet masters get “kontrol” and influence.
If the Russians are behind the Panama Papers, we know two things and both come back to Putin personally: First, it is an operation run by RFM, which means it’s run by Putin; second, it’s ultimately about blackmail. That means the real story lies in the information being concealed, not revealed. You reveal secrets in order to destroy; conceal in order to control. Putin is not a destroyer. He’s a controller.
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/order-from-chaos/posts/2016/04/07-panama-papers-putin-gaddy
>>70633469
ROOOOK
>>70633469
>There where no Americans because the russians are using it as blackmail.
Oh. I see. That's why.
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