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A friend and I are thinking of getting into hunting (probably deer). He's pretty poor and I'm not too much better so I figure bows would be a smart choice. They're cheaper and seem like they'd be more fun and rewarding. So I've got a couple questions.
1. Does this seem like a terrible idea? I heard bows are bad for deer because the deer can run 1 or more miles after getting hit. Would that issue be significantly diminished if my friend and I both hit the same deer at the same time?
2. Any bow recommendations?
>>646538
If you want a quality bow you're likely paying as much as you could get a decent rifle for. Look into rifle brands like savage, they make good stuff for not too much money. I don't know too much about bows, however, so no recommendations.
> I've got some low poundage for girls op pic related
I think getting a shotgun would be a cheaper way to start hunting.
>>646538
Gun will be cheaper. With the bow you need a decent bow, then good arrows,w which are fucking expensive, plus shit like sights and stabilizers and releases and fuck all that just buy a cheap rifle.
>>646600
>sights and stabilizers and releases
kek
>>646538
Negative on bows being cheaper.
Buy the bow
Sight
Rest
Stabilizer
Peep in the string
Release
Broad heads
Arrows then pay to get them cut to length, fletched
A case to put all the shit in.
What did I missing?
>>646538
With a bow you need to be a hell of alot closer and actually a decent shot. Ya, they will run unless you get a perfect heart shot. Growing up in the boonies my dad always told me to not even move from the tree for damn near half an hour. Than come down and track the deer. If you wait they might try hiding not to far away, if you give chase before they've bled out abit, they will run as far and fast as they can and your stuck tracking them alot farther.
>>646644
AR15 wouldnt be a great hunting rifle IMO. But I`m biased against 5.56. You could find a higher caliber bolt action rifle for pretty cheap, but I can`t think of a good example of one off the top of my head.
>>646644
How the fuck do you call a $1K AR bottom of the barrel?
I can build one for $475 and it'll shoot the shit out of any bowman and do it at 600 yrds!
>>646646
> can't think
Fuck dude, Ruger American, Savage Axis in anything over .243 winny!
>>646644
You're either retarded or a troll.
>>646538
A shotgun and some slugs are the way to go m8. Bows are expensive.
>>646628
>What did I missing?
trad. archery doesn't need half that stuff
>>646668
its all about placement of the Bodyslam.
,, a Neckslam will take a while longer to drop them from shear laffing., be ready to run after themiles., bodyslam thenuts!
,, if you and "friend can double BodySLAM,, you may be able to blast the meat outof the skin saving you lotsof work.
>>646538
.308 bolt action rifle is fantastic for taking down deer. That is probably the go to rifle for hunting
>>646538
>I heard bows are bad for deer because the deer can run 1 or more miles after getting hit
That's if you get out of your stand and go stomping through the woods before giving the deer time to lay down and die.
The less noise and movement you make in those first minutes are critical. A lot of times they won't run far before laying down and bleeding out. So give them a solid 30 minutes before you even think about moving.
And use a cut on contact, single bevel broadhead like pic related.
>>646820
This is pretty solid advice regardless of the weapon you use, bow rifle or other
>>646670
This, cheap, effective and versatile
Getting a rifled barrel will help you reach out further but isn't strictly necessary, if you are in a western state then a shotguns range might be a little limiting though
It also depends on where you are going to be hunting. The bow season in many places is longer than gun season. Some states don't allow rifle hunting for deer at all (shotguns only). So local research is important.
And, yeah.... an AR-15 is not a hunting rifle, and is not the cheapest option either.
>>646538
Bows are okay but a shotgun is better, or you could do what a friend does and use a nugget, he's bagged his full quota using a nugget for the last seven years, you just have to used the right ammo, I know he reloads and uses lead instead of FMJ for hunting, dude has 4 kids and no spare cash, so he got a nugget and made that work for him.
Depends on where you are, but shotgun or rifle hunting (bolt action will be much cheaper) is going to be a lot easier. Bowhunting is hard because you need to be within 30-40 yards and make a good shot if you want to do more than injure a deer. Shotguns are easier to hit with but have similar range limitations, and rifles are illegal in some states. The only problem is that the season starts way later and is shorter, but gun hunting is almost always going to be much easier for beginners than bowhunting.
Additionally, because of the kinetic energy required to kill a deer (a limitation of bows because they are man powered) getting a viable hunting bow, gear, and broadheads will cost as much or more than a cheap shotgun or bolt action. Since guns don't have to be man powered, you can easily find a cheap one that's also viable for hunting. You might consider muzzle loaders too. They're usually cheap and have a longer season, but can be finicky and (obviously) if you miss reloading will take a while.
>>646644
absolute shit idea you want a .243+ for deer hunting. Get used .308s or something off like guntrader, hell most milsurp bolt action guns will do the trick the trouble is mounting a scope
>>646538
Are you doing this because you want deer meat in the cheapest most effective way possible, or because you want a /out/ experience throughout the fall? As I see it:
1) Shotgun is likely the cheapest option short of the traditional archery route. It is also probably the most versatile option as many areas don't allow rifles for the gun season. If you get a rifled barrel, you get a bit more range, if you get a smooth bore you can open up into bird/turkey hunting without needing a new gun. Many offer interchangable barrels to do both.
2) Rifle can be relativly inexpencive, look into a bolt action rifle like a Savage 110 or Tikka T3. These are more accurate at longer range than shotguns, but may be restricted in some areas and are less useful for other types of hunting. This will be a deer gun for the most part, though if you skew up a bit you can go for bigger game or down a bit you can go smaller, since deer are comfortably mid sized.
3) The archery route can be as cheap as a used fiberglass recurve and some bargain bin arrows or as expensive as you care to make it. I can't speak too much to where the ideal amount of spending is, as I haven't bow hunted in years, but a lot of the miscellaneous items people have mentioned can be bought one paycheck at a time instead of a one time buy in. The major advantage for deer is you get a much longer season to work with. Here in Wisconsin, the regular gun deer season is 9 days, while the archery season starts in October and runs through early January, so you get more weekends in the woods for your buck. You also can legally turkey hunt and do some small game with a bow, but you'ld best be good at it if you want to try.
Whatever you decide to do, none of these options are free, and all of them can range from pretty cheap to very, very expensive, so worry less about the buy in price and more about what you will actually enjoy doing and get the most use out of.
Are you looking to go hunting or harvesting meat? I both bow and rifle hunt because bow season opens sooner and closes later in the season. There are also some areas around me that are bow only hunting areas, and it's nice to get away from the sometimes over populated rifle spots. But bow hunting is definitely not cheaper then a basic rifle set up, and definitely involves more field skill.
>>646538
Have you tried/k/?
>>646615
Why is that a joke
I agree with the Savage Arms recommendation for a rifle.
You can buy a Savage Axis XP for about $375. That's brand new too, with a scope. Sure it's not a high end gun , but you'll kill a lot of deer with it if you learn to shoot. I own several Savages, they all are very accurate. I love them.
For caliber? .223 is the smallest you'd ever go. In my state it's illegal to hunt anything with an AR-15, or any semi auto gun for that matter. I think the perfect whitetail deer caliber is 25-06, or 7mm-08. Both are very similar ballistically, only the 25-06 you can get lighter loads for smaller game, and the 7mm-08 you can get hea ier loads for larger game.
Nothing wrong with a good old .308 either as others have suggested. You can get ammo cheap, so it's more economical to shoot. If you get a more exotic caliber, it may shoot awesome, but ammo can be hard to find and expensive. For a beginner, you'd never reap the benefits of a more exotic caliber.
If you're actually that poor, why not start off small? Get a bolt action .22, and small game hunt. Y9u can get a used .22 for well under $200. Put in a scope and go hunt during small game season. Honestly squirrel hunting is about my favorite to hunt. You can also hunt woodchucks, crow, pheasants, grouse, rabbits, and other small game with a good .22 caliber gun. You could spend more and get a .17 hmr, and hunt all those same animals, but also hunt some larger animals like turkey with a good .17 hmr, although I like a bigger caliber for turkey, they do work.
If you spend a little more you could also get a shotgun which opens up possible options to hunt as well. A 20 gauge shotgun will kill all those small animals I listed before, although you need to be closer than with a rifle.
>>646672
Trad archery is also a hell of a lot harder. It's fun and I love it but damn it's definitely not the quickest or easiest way to get into hunting.
>>646894
that really depends on the ranges you expect to take a deer. all of the deer i've taken have been well within 100 yards, a 5.56 would do fine at those ranges
>>646538
cheapest way to get into hunting is slingshots.
you can even fire arrows from slings.
>>646670
This.
I picked up a mossy 500 combo for $400
Another $50 for the mounting bar, rings, and scope. Rifled barrel also came with iron sights on it but I cant see for shit so I opted to spend the money and get a scope
Cheapest hunting bow would be a recurve on clearance, like an old Samick, for 99 bucks or something like that.
45 lbs draw weight is the minimum hunting big game (for your draw length), which is really easy for the majority of all men.
I'd say a recurve with less than 20 lbs draw weight could kill a man with a field point if you're weak, just so you know.
So it's not too important.
Add another 99 bucks for arrows (with feather fletchings, or you'll hit nothing at all) and some cheap broadheads and you're ready to go.
>>646538
You're all backwards, senpai. People hunt with bows because of the added challenge and because they have the best seasons for trophy animals; for putting meat in the freezer a scoped .308/.30-06/.243/etc. is the way to go. If you're willing to look around, a used rifle that will reliably knock down a durr at 300yd and a box of ammo can be had for less than $300 and if you have help sighting it in then it's essentially just a point-and-click affair afterwards. Archery is more difficult, period, and how much money you spend is an inverse function of the skill needed and success rate - for ~$250 you can get a good glass longbow and half a dozen broadhead-tipped arrows that can last you years but it takes lots of practice to be able to reach out to even 30 yards reliably whereas if you spend $2000 on the newest bow and accessories you can be shooting 6-inch groups at 60 yards inside a week.
>>646538
Hey sc/out/...
If cost-effectiveness is your #1 priority, look at a low-end rifle or shotgun instead.
A entry-level bolt-action Savage in 308 would be a great pick. A lever action 30-30 would also be a good bet. If you're shooting 150 yards or less, iron sights should be fine once you've had a bit of practice. That way you can avoid the cost of a scope. A cheap 12g pump shotgun (like a Mossberg) is even more versatile in that you can hunt birds, small game, and big game though you sacrifice range and accuracy compared to a rifle.
Not to mention archery requires an order of magnitude more skill and practice and time=money amirite? Archery fags usually deck out in camo and have stands and tools like rangefinders.
I'd say overall, archery requires a lot more time, energy, dedication, and money.
>I heard bows are bad for deer because the deer can run 1 or more miles after getting hit
If you pass on low-probability or long shots, this should not be an issue. Put an arrow through its heart or lungs and it will usually never make it more than 100 yards. That said, the margin for error with archery is smaller and if you make a bad shot you could be in for a very long tracking job while inflicting all kinds of misery on the animal.
>if my friend and I both hit the same deer at the same time
This is just silliness...definitely impractical, likely impossible, and possibly illegal (depending on jurisdiction and licensing requirements)
It's super fucking hard to get within bow range of a deer (40ish yards) spot and stalk - it would pretty much never happen with twice the noise and scent.
If you are still or stand hunting still pretty far off base for two people to shoot simultaneously.
If you're calling, partner hunting is GREAT! One guy sits farther back and calls, with the shooter ahead on point. This is how you bowhunt elk (you can call solo but it's more challenging). You could also rattle and grunt in whitetail effectively in this manner.
>>646644
>hunting
>AR15
>$1000 bottom of barrel
riiiiiiight
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/26831/savage-axis-xp-bolt-action-rifle-w-scope
>>646538
4 chan has the most pathetic "hunting" and archery related threads on the entire internet. Its hilarious to watch highschool aged video game kids describe hunting weapons and practice.
Hearing you all discuss is what it would be like to hear your grandmother bicker about framerate and dlc ruining your JRPG experience.
anyway, literally NONE of you should even consider this as a hobby or a viable form of "hunting". you wont have the strength, knowledge or innate manhood to do it. literally ever.
FUCKING Hilarious watching people talk about "long bows" which is a niche-within-a-niche in archery hunting. Literally no one hunts longbow. a fraction of %1.
White-tail deer are some of the 'hardest' game hunts there are. They are extremely skittish, fickle and fleet footed animals. Browse hunting videos and blogs.
Further everyone one of you talking about "rifles" or "building AR-15's" to hunt sound like ever living dipshits. There are few (like count on one hand) that would allow that, and "Rifle season" could be only 1-2 weeks long, a single weekend, or less. cant belive some of you actually think you can just walk off into someones plot of land and shoot an animal. Forrestry police and game wardens will give you a $10k fine and take your fucking guns from you.
also, YOU MUST HAVE PERMITS and tags for the animals you kill. you will be limited to these based on the breed of animal. Some tags take literally 10 years to draw, you get one 2 week window to hunt and thats it forever.
I could go on and on, but i wont. 4chan is literally a hopeless terrible place to learn about "hunting" . This is a board for video game kids and pornography.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4Y-j_4N6JM
>>646648
>it'll shoot the shit out of any bowman
cool story. keep it classy and competitive, my friend
>traditional archery
is so much more difficult, that it will take you waaaaaaay more trips /out/ to harvest your deer. Unless you live within walking or bike riding distance from your hunting spot you will spend more on fuel than you would by going with a compound bow or firearm. Did I mention time commitment? How much is your time worth anon?
But if you're a hardcore hunting machine, it's great for fun and challenge.
Just don't ever believe someone who says trad is cheaper; it's not.
>>647144
>Further everyone one of you talking about "rifles" or "building AR-15's" to hunt sound like ever living dipshits
So you disagree that a bolt-action savage 308 is a poor choice for a beginner hunter who wants to watch his spending? What planet are you from armchair hero? Regale us with your tales of pure awesomeness.
>>647151
>poor choice
I meant good choice...I should know better than fucking arguing with tards on teh Internet
>>646538
I don't hunt and neither should you.
>>646575
kek
>>647144
> blah blah
Confirmed has never hunted in ARizona.
Does not know hunting regs in ARizona.
And has no clue about BLM in ARizona.
>>647144
>White-tail deer are some of the 'hardest' game hunts there are.
Nigger are you fucking kidding me? Hunting whitetails is about the piss-easiest form of big game hunting in existence if you have access to land that holds deer; you literally just sit to leeward of a game trail or food plot in a blind or tree stand and wait for one to step out. More white-tailed deer are harvested annually in the US than all other big game animals put together.
>There are few (like count on one hand) that would allow that,
Pretty much any state that allows you to hunt with an automatic weapon will let you hunt with an AR - assuming, of course, that your mag is pinned to a legal capacity and you don't have any illegal accessories.
>>647144
>Some tags take literally 10 years to draw, you get one 2 week window to hunt and thats it forever.
lol What is this nonsense?
>>646538
Each method has their pros and cons.
Rifles can be had for *relatively* cheap and don't require as much practice as bows to be proficient enough for hunting in the realm of 50 yards. Your ranges will depend on your area, skill level, etc. Part of the trade off, though, is you may have to go somewhere to practice if you don't live on a farm where you can set up a range. Closest rifle range for me is 45 minutes away, so I don't hit it much. Everything in town is handguns at 25 yards.
Modern gun seasons are also generally short compared to archery seasons. Look at the regs for where you will be hunting, too. If you're on public land there may be limitations on what you can take. Of the two public lands I live near, one is archery only and the other is buck only with modern gun. So you could have 20 does pass by and you still have no meat unless a six-pointer comes your way (oh yeah.. my area has a six-point rule, too).
Bows, by comparison, enjoy longer seasons but can take more practice. The advantage is you can practice anywhere as long as you have the space and neighbors that won't freak out about it. Compared to rifles, I can shoot my bow daily behind my house out to about 50 yards.. though 30 is my longest hunting shot.
You can get a decent beginner setup for not much more than a rifle... but if you practice a lot you will outgrow it quickly and want a better one. You also have to shop smart and don't let folks talk you into stuff out of pure bravado. You don't need more than 50-60 lbs of draw weight.. and you really don't even need that. The most common thing you see is 70 lbs DW because a hard-hitting, fast bow does have some advantages, but not if you can't hold it steady. It's better to have a comfortable bow and DW than one that is hard to pull and hold. Better to hit slower and cleaner than miss harder and faster.
>>647369
I will also point out one alternative that no one else has... probably partly because it can be a hot-button topic. Crossbows.
Folks have mixed reactions to them and, that's fine, to each their own. Some traditionalists and even "traditional compound users" will argue that they're not real archery or that they're "rifles that shoot arrows." They're entitled to their views, but don't let those make you rule them out as a possibility. They definitely eliminate some of the challenge of bows, such as having to draw and hold when the animal is close. But on the other hand they have a similar effective range. Ideally you need to be within about 30 yards or less. So, yes, they aren't as challenging as bows, but they're a great way to get started.
They are about as easy to learn as a rifle. They have a few nuances that are different. You need good follow-through form and they can kick forward, not back. They're also front-heavy so it's important to either shoot off of a rest or practice enough that you could hit a tennis ball.. or better yet a golf ball.. off hand, crouching, kneeling, etc. at your effective range.
They provide the advantage of archery season length with less practice required than a bow, which allows you to put more time in to learning how to scout and hunt. Now, crossbows can get VERY expensive, but you can get decent ones in the realm of $500. Wicked Ridge has some good ones in that range and, if you prefer recurve crossbow to compound, I think Excalibur has some cheaper ones. Barnett has been the forerunner in cheap crossbows, and their quality is better these days... but they're still not great, using many plastic components where Wicked Ridge and Excalibur use metal. Keep in mind you'll need bolts and a cocking rope helps.
And as you get more used to hunting they will likely whet your appetite for trying actual bows.
>>647377
Retuning to a common theme in this thread, you have to check local regs. Around here, crossbows are only legal for disabled hunters.
>>647487
>crossbows are only legal for disabled hunters.
Used to be the case around here until recently.
I know Louisiana and Mississippi both allow crossbows for anybody during archery season now.
>>646538
The ABSOLUTE STATE of this thread. Its unbelievable how profoundly incompetent 4 chan is regarding Hunting.
>>647367
I dont know how you failed to understand that many game animals require tags that are distributed in lotteries, on a "who you know" basis or are outright nearly impossible to get for most due to waiting lists. Do you really think taht you can just go out and hunt any animal you want? is that what you think? How didnt you understand that? how was that nonsense to you? How new are you to hunting where you didnt understand that?
>>647218
did you even read the post you "Blah blahed"? It was clearly stated that AR "hunting" is rare if not an outright illegal method in many places. there are literally a handful of states that allow game hunting with AR's legally. let alone white tail deer, which is what the OP's topic alluded to. you list one, ONE state and talk about not having a clue.
>>647148
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>>647369
And then you have these people suggesting "recurves" and "long bows" for a beginner to hunt deer with. Its hard to come up with analogies that videogame kids can understand. Recurve hunting is virtually un-heard of outside of a micro niche of seasoned, experienced hunters. And to save your arguement with me about it, just go to any real Hunting forum, or go your local Hunting Dealer/pro shop, and start to tell them about how you want to "long bow" hunt or " you want a recurve" to go hunting and watch them look at you like the mentally handicapped idiot you are.
PLEASE PLEASE for the love of god do not look at 4 chan for hunting advice. Nearly everything here in this thread is catastrophically stupid, and doing anything other than what
>>647487
>>647144
will land you Fined, your weapons confiscated, you looking like an idiot or worse. Please if you are serious about hunting, look up your States game laws, consult real hunting forums and visit your local Pro-shop for hunting advice from actual professionals.
>>647588
Your entire post is literally spergy rage lord.
Nobody even ascertained where the OP lived in the first post. That's where this community failed.
The question not asked
The autism he brays
Pistol or CrossBow
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Anonymous
>>647341
>Nigger are you fucking kidding me? Hunting whitetails is about the piss-easiest form of big game hunting in existence if you have access to land that holds deer;
This is exactly how I know you have never hunted, you are under 18 years old and have no experience WHAT SO EVER in this sport. its literally laughable how stupid and inexperienced you sound. Clueless loud mouth.
>Pretty much any state that allows you to hunt with an automatic weapon will let you hunt with an AR - assuming, of course, that your mag is pinned to a legal capacity and you don't have any illegal accessories.
Wow. Find me these states. Show me explicitly where this is allowed. show me where you can hunt Deer (the OP's topic) with an AR15. Show me the game animals allowed to be taken by the AR and which states, and for how long during what season. NO varmints, no pests (hogs, coyotes etc.)
further I cant believe you even think thats ethical or a part of hunting etiquette. again go to a proper forum or your local pro-shop and tell them you are going "hunting with your AR" and tell them they are "stupid niggars that dont know anything" and literally video tape their reaction. This thread needs it.
>>647598
>This is exactly how I know you have never hunted, you are under 18 years old and have no experience WHAT SO EVER in this sport. its literally laughable how stupid and inexperienced you sound. Clueless loud mouth.
So no rebuttal.
>Wow. Find me these states. Show me explicitly where this is allowed. show me where you can hunt Deer (the OP's topic) with an AR15. Show me the game animals allowed to be taken by the AR and which states, and for how long during what season. NO varmints, no pests (hogs, coyotes etc.)
Automatic center-fire rifles are legal for big game hunting in all but two states, Pennsylvania and Delaware.
have her make that slamfire shotgun (slambang/four winds/zipfire shotgun), shoot slugs.
tape/glue it to a stock. oil the pipe, oil the pipes, and make the barrel long enough to comply with local laws. if you have decent tools you can make bead sights for it.
>>646538
Anon,
if you're hunting for the mean only and not the /out/ experience, then don't do it - it will ALWAYS cost you less to buy pork from Costco (by the kilo).
Also, if you think bows will be less expensive you're retarded. An OK bow goes for 350$ at least. With that money you could get an Axis Savage or Remington 770 in 30-06 (they both come with scopes), two boxes of ammo.
You zero in the rifle and you're ready to hunt almost everything.
Bow hunting is a luxury type of hunting.
>>647671
hunting for the MEAT only***
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>>646644
Everyone's solution
> buy a rifle and "just go hunting"
>a rifle goes for $xxx "hell just get an AR for under $1k" and "just go hunting with it"
>just buy a rifle and just zero it and just go hunting.
Rifle season for North American game, depending on the state could be literally only a few days, or a few weeks of the entire year. 2 maybe 3 weeks in the entire year in 90% of cases. some cases a single weekend.
OP and virtually everyone in the thread is a clueless beginner with no knowledge what-so-ever of firearms, archery or hunting, and people are suggesting Rifles? This is precisely the reason Rifle season is considered "dangerous" and is notorious for accidental shootings, idiot know it alls in the field and dangerous fools aiming hi-powered rifles at things they shouldnt.
Further and most important, its laughable to picture someone who has zero knowledge of even the basic hunting equipment, restrictions and regulations, being able to field strip, clean and process the game meat in the field and transport it home correctly and sanitarily, as well as showing ethical care for the animal. if you have no idea how to select or even hold a hunting weapon,
do you really see your self taking a blade to the stomach of a 160lb animal, reaching inside of its warm body, physically pulling out its 'guts' with your bare hands and quartering the useful meat? Would you even know where to make the cuts and which parts are going to be useful to you?
so many people literally get caught up and stuck on the weapons, the camo, the "cool factor" and the mouthing off that they forget they will have to ethically and competently butcher and prepare a formally live animals meat in the wild.
this thread should just be closed. 4 chan needs a hunting sticky on /out/ or maybe /k/ that has actual real knowledge in it instead of this clueless garbage.
>>646577
Shotgun is cheap, effective, and relatively safe compared to a rifle.
>>647698
>shotgun safer than rifle
wtf are you smoking man?
>>646551
This.
>>646538
Try everything you possibly can in your price range. Try to err on the side of the more beginner friendly bows: longer brace heights, 6.5"+, longer axle to axle lengths can help as long as they aren't absurdly long. MSRP doesn't necessarily make a good bow or make a bow right for you but try not to go too far out of your price range, chances are you will like the nicer stuff more, go figure.
>>646644
Bottom barrel ARs are more like 450-600.
>>647144
Is this pasta?
There is literally nothing precluding AR hunting in states that don't have retarded regs like PA or shit flat fly over states that don't allow centerfire rifle, others require 24+ caliber but that's hardly a problem with the litany of cartridges you can set an AR-15 up for.
You seem like a cunt and your tattoos are awful if that is you but you are right in that it takes dedication and discipline to learn, both a weapon, hunting itself and other supporting skills, it's doubly hard without anyone to teach you from experience.
>>647367
Usually specialty things, like hunting X normally protected breed in a GMU that isn't usually open to hunting or something along those lines. One of the best elk tags out here you can apply for here is pretty much a once in a lifetime tag assuming you're so lucky as to get one even with weighted draws.
>>647377
Crossbows are regarded as modern firearm in some places unless you are disabled. If that's the case in OP's area he may as well just use a firearm.
>>647692
You keep saying the same thing instead of offering anything Sir Dick Swings So Big. Yes there is a multitude of skills and knowledge you should have before you go hunting. Being capable of field dressing and caping an animal if need be would be the bare minimum in regards to butchery skills.
>>647748
I can only imagine that he's referring to the distance the projectile (or projectiles as the case may be) are capable of traveling. Even slugs are much less ballistically efficient than your average rifle cartridge, hence flat farm states requiring them for firearm seasons. Granted aren't any less deadly or explicitly safer than rifles or handguns, if you don't know what you are doing you are just as dangerous with a shotgun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjDu5zwa4rM
>>646644
Do some more googling or just admit you played far cry and want a bow. A perfectly effective bolt action can be had at Walmart for 250. You can't get a bow setup for that
>>647588
Your post reeks of autistic elitism.
And I think you must live the state with the strictest regulations but you don't even seem to realize it.
>>647620
I don't understand the semi-auto restriction in PA. I'd like to use my Remington 597 for squirrel, but can't since it's semi-auto. I use my savage 17hmr, which is a nice gun, but my 597 is lighter, and shoots surprisingly well.
>>647692
Chill out sperg. A guy is doing some research about a hobby he'd like to get into. Why does this bother you so much?
It's like you feel so fucking cool because you know how to field dress an animal. Do you not realize that people learn to hunt, and even at one point YOU knew NOTHING about hunting.
OP is asking advice. Relax, you just end up sounding like a cunt.
>>647692
>buy a rifle and "just go hunting"
You're some kinda special huh? Quite the rage issue you have going on here. You seem upset. Are you OK?
Of course OP would have to get their hunter's education, license, tags, go with someone to show them the ropes or, heaven forbid, research how to do all these things in books, magazines, or on the Internet. *gasp*
Everybody has to start somewhere dickface.
But what you seem not to grasp, is that OP did not ask about all those things. He asked if bowhunting would save a budget-conscious beginner hunter some money. To assume they'd just grab a weapon and go firing them at animals is straight up retarded.
Nothing wrong with hunting threads on /out/. You're just making the weakminded assumption people are basing their entire hunting education from this board.
>>646628
You can get all that for $350 guaranteed. Not the nicest bow, but one that would work plenty well. So I'd say pretty close to a decent rifle.
My stepfather is giving me his old compound now for xmas, not sure the model or anything yet. We are not really close, and while im sure he would be willing to give me tips, but he isnt the kind of guy who would bring me along hunting with him and he wont be teaching me how to shoot.
Anyone have some good places for beginning bow hunters? I can join an archery club thats about an hour away but id like to hold off as my husband and i are saving up for a new house.
>>648157
>Anyone have some good places for beginning bow hunters?
Honestly, an archery shop.
A compound bow will have the set up for you in 90% of cases, and they are usually very helpful and have their own indoor archery range.
>>648157
>>648171
I would definitely go to the nearest archery shop/hunting store and ask them.
They usually are very knowledgeable, and can get you started. As the one anon said, they often have an indoor range. They should also keep tons of info about archery classes, leagues, and competitive shooting events.
You can get a few arrows, and a target and practice in your yard too.
>>647588
>>647692
>>648171
>A compound bow will have the set up for you in 90% of cases
Just noticed my typo.
Meant to say
>A compound bow WILL HAVE TO BE set up for you in 90% of cases
Everyone doesn't have the same draw length, so the chances are slim that you'll find a used one that fits you exactly, and thus create bad habits and a bad first experience.
>>646538
Why did someone post an image of 2 bows floating in midair?
>>647588
>Look mom, I'm correcting people on 4chan
You're the type of person who literally says "ackshully" in conversation, aren't you? How much do you go "ackshully" hunting with you daikimakura and RealDoll sempai?
>>646639
A shot in the heart won't kill imediately...
>>646538
>>648197
>>648185
>>647865
>>647914
>>647803
>>647757
>>647620
>>647341
just like the bratty millenials you are, the second you were caught mouthing off and got scolded you resorted to fedora tipping and "lol'ing". anyway, between this thread and
>>>634412
It should be obvious to anyone browsing these threads that 4 chan is NOT a place for even a semblance of logical hunting discussion. Video game brats are the absolute LAST authority on anything that requires manhood, a grandfather-father-son relationship like hunting, or actual real world skills.
anyway not to leave empty handed, these are some rudimentary deer guides I found in less than a minnute on Google. Gl/hf /0ut/ You need it.
http://www.realtree.com/deer-hunting/articles/busted-five-things-you-don-t-know-about-deer-senses
http://www.realtree.com/deer-hunting/articles/want-to-kill-a-boone-and-crockett-whitetail-read-this
>>648272
Calls everyone in the thread bratty, but is the one losing his shit over nothing.
Keeps complaining about 4chan yet here he is shitposting up a storm.
Keeps beaking about the age and demographic of the posters here, but actually has no fucking clue.
You stay mad and I'll keep making and posting hunting threads k?
PS. I'm not a millennial, video game brat, or a novice hunter. I just happen to like 4chan and hunting and I like trying to help anons when they ask questions like OP.
tl;dr get a load of this guy complaining about /out/ on /out/
>>648307
>>648309
except you ARE a bunch of brats. complaining about complaining is some inception level shit.
4 chan is a great place to go if a video game developer edited your favorite super mario brother into a woman, charged you money to play as the character then sold you half a game running at 20fps, and you need to have Electronic Arts and IGN shut down over it.
>You stay mad and I'll keep making and posting hunting threads k?
case and point. an indisputable fact is, a huge portion of 4 chan browsers ACTUALLY follow, (almost to the word) the advice they see in threads. And heres where your millennial brattyness comes in, because after you run your mouth about rifles and "just buy an AR" etc. etc.. on and on... one of these people actually does it (and it only takes one), goes and does something dipshit retarded, and ends up on the news blaming this place while a liberal calls for the end of guns
>and to be extra clear
this isnt a morality spin, or some kind of fauna whiteknighting, but anytime we can create EVEN 1 LESS millenial aged fucktard with a gun, we should. You have all these stickies board rules, moderators, and feigned integrity, only to flip flop on alll of it when it comes to hunting, where someone will actually KILL something In real life
>Hunting is the oldest and most respected /out/door activity, that requires comprehensive knowledge on weapons, firearms, animal behavior and biology, local government laws and regulations, butchery skills and ethical and etiquette awareness that could be covered by a knowledgeable and researched /hunt/ sticky curated by actually educated people
4 active hunting threads on /out/ right now and all of them have a common theme of "just buy an AR and just go hunting"
>>634412
>>647617
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>>648333
/hunt/ sticky would include
-Ethical hunting practice
-acceptable hunting etiquette
- rules, regulations and government tagging, permitting etc
-accessory gear
-primary arms (rifles, shotguns, bows etc..)
- "in season" game and regional awareness
-butchery and field dressing process
-meat transportation, processing and storage
-tracking, trapping and food plotting
-camo and concealment
-respect for life, and when NOT to take an animal
and the list could go on. it would stop all the people in this thread and the 3 others currently going and also people like you>>648307 who absofuckinglutely suck and contribute nothing other than "ha get mad im a brat and ill just keep going anyway"
/out/ is a board that has real integrity left, and it should be preserved.
>>648272
I'd be willing to bet one of the few millenials here is you. You seriously just sound like a spoiled entitled brat.
>>648333
You keep complaining about AR hunting despite the fact that ARs are legal in almost every state for big game rifle seasons. The regulations usually specify bullet diameter minimums and magazine caps, that's it. Prove us wrong. Post us how all these states have banned ARs for hunting. Cite real regulations and not your anecdotal elitist spew.
>You have all these stickies board rules, moderators, and feigned integrity, only to flip flop on alll of it when it comes to hunting
Nope, we're just discussing hunting on /out/ *gasp*
>>>633029
Not even a mention of an AR there bud.
You sound like the millennial you're complaining about.
>>648338
>-primary arms (rifles, shotguns, bows etc..)
This is precisely OP's topic or are you that fucking retarded you're going to argue that point?
>>648338
>who absofuckinglutely suck and contribute nothing
I recommended rifle as more cost effective including caliber and models that could be appropriate for the task (not ARs). I also give him insight into the time and dedication requirements of archery. What have you contributed newfriend which would help answer OPs question?
>>647144
>nobody but me is allowed to hunt or even talk about it because, well I don't actually have a valid reason, just DON'T OK?
>>648272
>Video game brats are the absolute LAST authority on anything that requires manhood, a grandfather-father-son relationship
Actually, hunting requires none of these things.
My wife hunts with her girlfriends and I'm the one who mentored her. Her father and grandfather both passed away before she started hunting.
I also did not learn from my father or grandfather. I learned a lot from friends, books, and the Internet. 'Manliness' or such macho bullshit does not enter the equation. I hunt because I enjoy the experience and adore wild meat, not because of some notion of bravado or some-such rubbish.
I would consider myself an skilled, ethical, and conscientious hunter.
Your argument is invalid.
>>646820
This is where a thermos and some hot soup/tea and a magazine comes in handy.
Hell, I'm not even joking.
>>648378
Yep, it takes a lot of willpower to wait 30 minutes, but it's a really good idea to do so.
>>646912
For what purpose? Everyone who owns guns or bows posts here. /k/ is for mallninjas.
>>646919
All you need to be successful when bowhunting is a longbow, arrows, and enough patience to learn how to use them.
>>646912
>>648756
The archery threads on /k/ don't usually get much love, but not everyone there is a mall ninja or slavaboo the same way not everyone here is a LNT lunatic or autistic cairn kicker.
nice pic
>>647692
>Acting like it's some huge mystical trial to field dress a kill
Please stop.
