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>Previously on /dbt/
>>14901410
>>14903236
>>14903236
>>14903236
>>14903236
depends on the overall size of the bike, but most modern 650 twins are more than enough to stay safe on the road
>tfw EBR is kill
mmmmm dual sports
>>14903254
If we're talking modern bikes, a 600cc i4 is all you'll ever need on the road.
>>14903256
Again?
>>14903236
Depends. Honda makes a 670cc parallel twin that is geared entirely towards commuting with fuel efficiency in mind. A 400cc i4 putting out 53bhp is a solid engine for a commuter bike.
There are some high displacement thumpers that make for solid commuters too.
Can't really generalize anything based on displacement alone.
>REV UP YOUR ENGINES
>>14903256
lmao it has training wheels
>>14903256
What? Where have you been?
http://www.cycleworld.com/2016/03/22/erik-buell-racing-is-reborn-again-with-new-investors-motorcycle-news
>>14903282
>EBR is back again
sorry I can't keep up with how many times it's kill then not.
Making myself some fucking panniers.
>>14903271
Maybe if you're a baby backed bitch
1000s are better as road bikes because they have more low end
>fifty motherfucking litres of storage capacity
Still WIP
>>14903292
Man I love this project
>>14903292
Something really looks wrong with the alignment
>>14903296
Did you fucking buy some tool boxes and bolt them to your bike?..
10/10
>>14903292
your subframe is bent lol
>>14903293
never ridden one and just repeating what the internet says heh?
>>14903303
Yes I fucking did. Stainless steel-sided 25 liter tool boxes.
>>14903300
>>14903309
Falling 30 meters down a mountainside? You fucking bet. Not severe enough to fix and there are no cracks, though, and the effect is enhanced by the fact that the mounts for the seat and the rear fairings are bent, too.
This is the shitbike to end all shitbikes, I will ride it a fuckload until I can fix it no longer or crash it for real, the resale value 0.00€.
>>14903340
>I will ride it a fuckload until I can fix it no longer or crash it for real, the resale value 0.00€.
Thats some dedication.
>>14903340
Don't you feel like it's somewhat angled when you ride? idk
Drinking my fourth. I'm at a beer festival.
This one is to peace at dbt
>>14903335
Looks like you're the one who's never ridden one.
>>14903352
>more blurred pics
nice, now when are you going to tail tidy?
Views on a 2008 Ducati Hypermotard 1100?
https://bakersfield.craigslist.org/mcy/5550417786.html
>>14903340
I'm not sure if you care by this point, but you can still take a fuckhuge steel pipe to that rear end try to make it more-or-less evenly looking.
T. a guy who also has a bike with a bent frame.
ALSO DBT HALP ME
>running on 3 cylinders, very noticiable when accelerating
>rpm tach doesn't go past 5k
>neutral light flickers out about every 4 seconds in idle (flickers faster when rpms go higher)
>will only idle for a few seconds before dying
Does this look familiar to someone?
>>14903347
The engine is decent, the handling is decent, the ergos are good after I swapped the handlebars, the fuel economy is decent, and it has proven itself time and time again to be absolutely indestrucible. I have no need or desire to get another until I have to get rid of this one for some reason. Next step is modding it to full touring/adventure mode and slapping some 80/20 road/off-road tires on it and take it to the wilderness.
>>14903348
It's only the bitch seat part, and it's not as bad as it looks, the effect in picture looks worse because everything else is tilted, too. You can't feel it.
Also fixing up all the fucked fairings. There's literally not a single fairing piece left that hasn't cracked or melted.
>>14903254
I use 1130cc to commute
are there any places to learn basic maintenance?
things like changing the oil, changing chain and sprockets, replacing tires etc.
>>14903382
Buy a bike.
>>14903359
Whenever I stop being a lazy cunt.
so don't get your hopes up
>>14903378
The actual subframe is only slightly bent, what makes it look worse is that every single tab and mount that holds the rear seat and the rear fairings on has bent slightly, just straightening the subframe wouldn't be enough.
>>14903361
I have one, ask away.
I'd strongly advise you to get the S model.
>>14903352
can you explain why I ride along with 2-3k rpm innacity
maybe because honda a shit? or edgy muh GPfairing kids can't ride?
who knows
>>14903361
>>14903394
Also for that price there is something he isn't mentioning. Might need several thousand in services.
>>14903394
Oh was just curious, I'm monumentally torn for what I want as a second bike, so many options and ideas so to what's not only good as a second bike but something future proofed. No questions, just examining options.
>>14903405
>JayLeno.jpg
>>14903361
i rode the SP model on a demo day years ago.
i found it super disappointing. had no pop to it when you romped the throttle.
>>14903382
Owners manual will tell you how to do the basics like oil changes, air filters etc.
Workshop manual will tell you how to do everything from valve clearance to fully stripping the engine.
Having a look on Youtube and Google always helps. Purchase the correct tools as you you need them.
>>14903412
You were in rain mode then, because they definitely instantly wheelie.
>>14903378
>neutral light flickers out about every 4 seconds in idle (flickers faster when rpms go higher)
This sounds like a loose connector, check the plug that connects the whole cluster, shuld be somewhere under the handlebars.
Also for the 3 cylinders, it's the carbs.
Probably one of the spark plugs is dead.
Fuck Tash and his shit https://youtu.be/baMjKNVLbrU
>>14903397
>>14903418
i live in the mountains. everything up here is sluggish compared to sea level.
im just saying for a 1100cc V twin i was expecting a lot more humph. it was in the street mode.
i took 1 picutre todae
>>14903435
This is why I'm happy to not have any "mode" shit.
>>14903427
Wow he's even more boring than the average motovlogger. at least insult someone or do something interesting.
>>14903442
eh its not bad. if i get caught in really bad weather its nice to put on the low end modes but pretty much any other time my bike is in its normal mode.
>>14903427
>shameless self promotion
>>14903427
>riding on straight roads talking about financing a Harley
I had hoped for so much more from you, Tash.
>>14903256
guy in my school has one, looks pretty dope
Daily reminder to not be a retard
>>14903426
I recently cleaned the carbs and the plugs are brand new.
I realized when testing the bike with the tank off that when the neutral light flickers the fuel pump jerks and fuels jumps around all over the fuel container thing I got improvised.
It's some really odd shit.
>>14903464
Don't tell me what to do
>>14903427
>Boring roads
>Harley Davidson
it's just like /dbt/
>>14903464
Funny how most bike deaths are a direct result of someone being retarded.
>>14903254
I have a 600 in the city and I wish it had more fucking torque downlow so I wouldn't have to launch from a light if I wanna take off fast.
>>14903475
I think that could be said for most automotive related accidents.
>>14903478
Buy a triple.
>>14903464
>filtering between trucks
It's scary enough riding beside those cunts nevermind between one and something else. Fuck me.
>>14903478
Buy a twin.
>>14903478
Buy a single.
>>14903478
Get a v8
>>14903478
Buy a 2-stroke
>>14903478
buy an onahole
>>14903470
>plugs are brand new.
Bad carburation can kill one in a couple of days, have you tried doing a plug read?
>the fuel pump jerks and fuels jumps around all over the fuel container thing I got improvised.
as in "it's pushing back fuel"?
that's weird.
But I don't know nothing about fuel pumps.
>>14903478
Get a cruiser
>>14903478
buy a bicycle
>>14903478
Take the bus
>>14903500
>torque down low
>2-stroke
Nah m8
>>14903515
kx500
>>14903515
It has torque down low if you rev it up a lot before you take off
>>14903515
but muh powerband
>>14903494
yes yes
>>14903481
LOL. I am looking at getting rid of this four and getting a triple.
>>14903520
>>14903531
Triples are da bes
>>14903536
>narnia units
what is that in real engine measurement units?
>>14903397
I mean if you're content with no torque who am I to blame you
>>14903292
I thought you died
>>14903464
man, riding between TWO semis? i can't even imagine how retarded you'd have to be to think this is a good idea.
>>14903542
Peak horse power is 135.
Peak torx is 89.
The engine makes about 70 ft.lbs at 2,000 rpms. Thats why they say triples don't have a torque curve, they have a torque horizon.
>>14903278
[sweats]
>>14903557
At the SEM? I was posting here right after my crash.
During winter? Nah, just couldn't drive with a meter of snow and -20 degrees Celsius. Also built the bike.
>>14903580
watch out for men digging on the road
>>14903580
How do you follow your route? Satnav, Google maps on phone, written directions or compass?
>>14903574
This is true.
Based triples. I'm surprised the 1200 in the Explorer only makes ~20 hp more than the detuned 1050 in my Tiger
>>14903580
W. you fukken pussy. The GS all ready?
>>14903602
The 1050 was too much of a wild beast.
>>14903609
im not dutchgs
im dutch450s, not sure if i can make it doe
s-sorry 2 disappoint you
>>14903601
when i take trips i usually have a piece of paper with the cities i have to pass
and satnav on phone if i fuck up
>>14903580
>>14903609
[being lost intesifies]
>>14903580
Why are all the country names wrong on your maps?
>>14903580
>Köln=Keulen
fucking cheeseheads
>>14903622
More dutch is always better, hope GS can make it too.
>>14903601
>>14903630
If you're on Android download "Offline maps & Navigation" by publisher "Navigation." and all the necessary maps (will take up to 3gb of maps depending on how many countries you download simultaneously, you can change them on the fly if you have internet connection via wifi etc.).
>>14903631
Because he's Dutch.
>>14903651
>If you're on Android download "Offline maps & Navigation"
That's cheating.
>>14903580
Which dutchfagget are you? Bimmer isn't going right? I haven't decided yet myself.
>>14903614
Not in the Tiger it wasn't, but the Speed Triple with the same engine makes the same power as that 1200.
I know it's not full wringed out for many reasons, but I figured 140-150 from it anyway
what are your favorite car related movies?
>>14903664
Nvmnd I should try reading the thread.
>>14903664
a new dutchfagget
idk who the old dutchfaggets were
>>14903660
It's not cheating, it's Progress™!
>>14903664
doooooo eeeeet
>>14903655
That doesn't change the names of countries.
>>14903673
check the fucking map there's at least 5 or 6 of you
>>14903669
I hate car chases in movies. The whole 'going 10km/h but trying to make it look fast' things doesn't work for me.
>>14903680
im p sure not all of them went to SEM
or are going to SEM2:Electric bogaloo
>>14903681
>sound effects included added in engine noises
>it doesn't match the right car
Just fucking kill me
>>14903550
>no torque
>somwhoe 250s with almost less peak torque than a 600cc down low are able to move in traffic
pls stop meemmaster
>>14903651
That sounds like a good option although I'll need to upgrade my phone first.
How many days are you allowing yourself to get to Bled? Expected miles per day and hours in the seat? I'm the Irish125, still trying to get an idea of what is realistic.
>>14903669
FAST N FURIOUS SERIES
>intense automatic shifting scenes
>>14903687
You're fucking retarded.
>>14903691
>125
it'll take a while
>>14903687
Don't you know anything less than a Busa is dangerously slow? Even in a city!
>>14903694
ok nobike
![h3RSOhF[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/D0fmoJM.png "h3RSOhF[1].png")
>>14903677
Yes it does.
>>14903478
Take a shit
h-hey /o/
so i'm 90% done with my bike rebuild.
>some bitch ran it over a few months ago
still getting used to the clip ons but what you niggers think?
>>14903697
I've definitely got a bike.
>>14903700
Nah. Just because you speak a different language doesn't mean the names of things change. Germany is germany. America is america. That's how they're spelled. Get used to it, fuckboy.
>city commuting
>every normal board recommends 125cc, 250cc, 300cc, maybe a 500cc
>dbt
>600CC ISN'T ENOUGH FOR THE CITY, GET A LITER
fucking kek /dbt/ is retarded
>>14903673
Are you straight? Are you NEET? Do you have the autisms? Have you gone for long tours before? Did you survive them? Want to beat up some slavs?
>>14903669
Fucking love Neo-Noir
Wish there was some good Motorcycle Neo-Noir
>>14903340
Can you at least fit your boots in them?
>>14903708
The people recommending scooters probably live in europe or some other shit country where nobody can afford real bikes due to ninja 250s being $10,000.
>>14903686
>DR-Z or similar dual sport
>2 stroke sounds intensify
>>14903669
Does Collateral count?
>>14903707
Germany is Deutschland.
I'm thinking about picking this up to make my commuting bike. Anyone know much about Honda's V4s?
>>14903706
looking pretty decent mate
>>14903464
What a fucking idiot. I filter illegally all the time (it's illegal to do in any capacity here) but I would never filter between trucks.
>>14903709
no
yes
yes
no
n/a
yes
Post you're riding theme when your are riding away from you're problems on friday night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUX7qiIB40
>>14903718
>Collateral
>car related
>>14903609
I'm not sweating it, I can't wait to go and so is my bike.
>>14903664
>Bimmer isn't going right?
I am, is that a problem? You should come too!
>>14903714
Most sold bike in europe is actually wr125
>>14903720
Apparently first gens have weaker oiling and camshafts and the carbs can be kind of a bitch to work on.
I think they're pure sex
>>14903719
Not in English. In whatever african click language it might be but not in the planet's dominant language.
English is a world language and the only one that makes sense. Get used to it kid. I'm just happy it isn't some drawing/hieroglyphics bullshit like asia.
>>14903729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKrfqYO9ogA
>>14903720
I know enough about them to tell you not to buy that one.
>>14903708
650cc is objectively the best. Better and comfier than a 600 for city riding and enough power to btfo of just about everyone.
>>14903729
https://soundcloud.com/monstercat/savoy-let-you-let-me
HANDLING 3/10 RATE COMMENT SUBSCRIBE
>>14903729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUlH3QQEAQ
>>14903730
Well I mean there's a lot of taxi driving...
>>14903709
way to take that video out of context
that was 100% completely on the bikers.
>>14903720
>shitty condition
>outside
>:under a tarp
Yeah, no.
I seriously don't understand why anyone would ever remotely consider buying some bike in shit condition. Why don't you buy nice bikes in good condition and enjoy riding and your life much more while not looking like a poorfag? Buy something that doesn't need a thousand dollars in repairs. Buy something that doesn't look like absolute shit.
>>14903729
>implying
my problem is my maths final which I must study for so I cannot ride now
>>14903742
>Better and comfier than a 600
>every 600 is a sportbike
B A N D I T
A
N
D
I
T
>>14903736
ゲット ア ロド オフ ヂス ファッゴット ダット カント レアド カタカナ
>>14903729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0yzxruBqYg
goat for when the synths come on as i'm turning out onto the road.
>>14903736
>>14903714
Now that's what I call DBT.
>>14903720
It's fun and cheap as a project bike, but because it's 30+ years old, it might not be the best commuter.
It will pick the worst possible time to die on you forever.
Also, they were king shit in the 1980's, but they are clunky and obese compared to even 90's sportsbikes.
>>14903759
derp derp derp i like to eat dogs and kill whales and dolphins and pollute the entire planet and all my citizens have cancer
>>14903682
Only GS was at SEM1, no dutch confirmed for SEM2 yet.
>>14903691
500km a day is easily doable if you start in the morning and take breaks and if your bike is comfy enough. You won't be doing anything else during that day, though.
Example trips I made last summer in a day:
>Stockholm - Malmö 600+ km
>Mannheim - Kochel 400+ km
>München - Liechenstein - Livigno - Bolzano 500+ km (although that was hell due to thunderstorm on the mountains)
>Bolzano - Bled - Graz 500+ km
>Wien - Warsaw almost 700km
>Kaunas - Pärnu 450km
>>14903713
I can fit all my gear minus helmet in them.
>>14903757
>not riding away from math problems
>>14903750
He thinks he will save money by buying that.
>>14903731
You weren't on the list in the email thread, though?
>>14903759
>ロド
>レアド
ユー アール ア リータード
>>14903736
どう見たえてもこれはベイトだ。
>>14903736
>planet's
Back to school, nigga.
>>14903691
>125
better get going now
>>14903780
Earth's*
>>14903720
Spend the extra $300 and just get a used CBR125.
This is just a novelty toy for people who like to work on junkers.
>>14903767
>ride away from my maths
>fail them
>fail out of engineering school
>creating more problems
no thanks. I'll take some suffering now so that later I may afford nice things and n+1 bikes.
>>14903777
Yeah he is
>>14903780
I think he is trying to say he speaks Planet fluently. Probably part of some hippy denomination.
>tfw i'm buying a KLR in the next few weeks
finally getting not being nobike after two long years.
>>14903795
"Bimmeranon"?
>>14903778
わかりませんlol
>>14903806
Yeah
>>14903811
ohh
>>14903788
Nah, m8. I'm sure I can do it in three or four days.
I really dont feel like staying up till 3am to bid on a pair of riding pants.
How do I set a max amount I'm willing to pay and the let the thing bid by itself?
I remember trying but instead of increasing the current bid by the minimum amount it just bid everything I was willing to pay.
>>14903686
dimension W has an LFA and has a V10 sound for it.
was very satisfying to have the right sound for the vehicle for once.
Carbs are not as bad as I thought. Only downside is waiting for my bike to warm up. Though I haven't done anything like carb adjustment though.
>>14903829
Plenty of fuel injected bikes need to get warm too.
>>14903829
>Only downside is waiting for my bike to warm up
My bike is FI, need to warm it up, even manually choke it.
>>14903766
gotta see if riding that long actually works on my baiku, + i have no way of taking any luggage with me (and they dont make panniers either)
>>14903829
How many carbs do you have? Adjustment really isn't too bad.
http://www.curvytron.com/
Tron type thing. Somebody join /dbt/. I have no clue whats going on. Pretend the dot is a motorcycle or something.
Somebody find a proper multiplayer tron game plz
I thought this was kinda interesting until I saw the front.
>>14903829
single carb rebuild isn't too bad. I like being able to adjust certain things though. haven't had to rebuild a bigger one so far.
hoping my shit bike lasts me long enough until I can afford a new FI bike
>>14903838
Same here. If my bike explodes on the first day I'll be really sad. I think I'll end up just strapping a large backpack to my pillion seat. If I need to get off the bike somewhere I can just throw it on my shoulder and keep it with me.
>>14903838
Get some soft luggage, this was my loadout for last year
>>14903838
>>14903852
Actually a better pic from before the crash
>>14903852
You make that bike look really small, if that's you.
>>14903861
190cm / 95kg
>>14903858
>Backpack as a tank bag
Damn bro kek
>>14903870
Your tiger makes me happy when I see it
Lets see some xr650 pics now
>>14903866
Does it feel really cramped after a few hundred miles?
>>14903870
You can see the harness for it here from way back when. Works 10/10
>>14903841
Two, I believe. Ninja 250.
>>14903830
>>14903835
Fascinating. I thought FI would make that obsolete.
>>14903846
How often do you rebuild? What signs should I look out for if it needs one?
>>14903852
you're africa twin right?
>>14903882
Wait so that is an actual tank bag?
>>14903879
There sure are a lot of Katanas in /dbt/ lately.
>>14903669
death proof. my fav tarantino movie. idgaf.
>>14903858
nice, so basically some saddlebags and a backpack strapped to your tank
what did you bring with you?
(esp toolwise)
>>14903898
Thanks!
>>14903881
Not really, the GSX600F is a sport-touring bike after all. Also altered ergos now.
>>14903895
Wat? No.
>>14903898
No it's a Mil-Tec Assault Pack attached to Kappa Tanky harness
>>14903824
Search google for bid snipers. They will bid at the last moment for you.
>>14903910
Nice XRL bruh. Might want to take care of those tires and that license plate though haha
>>14903911
Oh I see
>>14903930
Not mine yet, I'm seriously thinking about it but since I'm only going to be here for 3 more weeks is it worth it and where will I put it?
Posted more pics in last thread. Guy wants $2.8, I was thinking should I get it I'd offer $2.4-2.6 due to tires, gnawed/missing plastics, and random TLC
>>14903270
>>14903191
>>14903122
>>14903177
>>14903843
nobody? :^(
>>14903921
>payin for that bullshit
Beside I need to keep an eye on the import rates,
sounds completely retarded paying them to ebay.
>>14903938
nooo fucking way for that much. more like 2000 if even. I mean it being an 07 doesn't make up for all that.
>>14903990
Really, out of curiousity how come, am I too eager to get back on two wheels to overlook it's condition?
You think I should just pass and wait until I go back home to get something?
>>14903938
It really depends on the market. If it's in overall good shape aside from those faults [which are easily remedied] then that doesn't sound too bad. How many miles on it?
>>14904000
Not that guy but I picked up a DR650 for 1500 dollars and the only thing wrong with it was that it had a very slight oil leak and the fork seals needed replacing. Try to talk him under 2200, if he won't budge then he's way too optimistic
>>14904001
11k. Marketwise I have too look incredibly local around $2500 because I don't have a vehicle with me. When I go home, I'll be able to look further and won't have to worry about state title transfers and the like.
>>14904004
>Dr650
>1500
Lucky. Re-reading what I wrote to CC I'll probably pass on it, I guess now is just not the time for it.
>>14904013
Maybe wait until you can search a larger area.
>>14904004
>light oil leak
gasket?
>>14904036
Thanks CC, you're right. You know your shit.
I'll stay as a nobike for now.
I'm back.
>>14904049
hi
>>14904041
Most likely, but I see it hanging off the oil plug. I changed the oil 500 miles ago and replaced the crush washer and tightened it down correctly (I think, at least) but I still see it leaking a bit. Drives me fucking mad but I can't tell where the leak originates from. Gonna have to spend a weekend really looking for it but currently I can't be bothered
>>14904060
It is odd that someone saved a picture of me...
>post your bike and your beer in one photo
>>14903909
Tent, sleeping bag, clothes, riding gear, hygiene shit, a full set of metric sockets and other tools (incl. wiring, tape), chain lube. Also various straps etc. Also (never used) tarp, first aid kit.
>>14904062
>>14904066
Nope.
Which one do you want in the collage?
>riding jeans into riding boots
>riding jeans over riding boots
Which one is the least faggiest guys?
>>14904081
>>14904082
This one.
thinking of this for my first bike, thoughts?
http://westernmass.craigslist.org/mcy/5544486050.html
>>14904094
Got it, thanks.
>>14904091
I ride with pants into the boots cause it reminds me of my very brief time in the army and I look like a bad boy
>>14904094
or this one
>>14904091
>boots
>riding jeans
No.
>>14904094
>>14904100
Looks like you have really feminine hips, sempai.
You have pads there or just bad genes?
>>14904102
>>14904062
>>14904077
>>14904081
So which one of you is the shitbike king of /dbt/?
>>14904105
If I had to wager it would be bad genes.
>>14904109
I nominate myself
Not really I don't want to be king of anything
>>14904109
Two of those are me.
Also, this picture could totally be a magazine ad for shitiest bike.
>>14904122
>hot new summer colors for your exposed wiring
>picking the right zip tie for your bike
>how can rust help reduce your depreciation
>>14904109
>>14904122
I'm honored but I think I'm outmatched here
>>14904133
These should all be articles in the DBT e-zine.
>>14904143
We should really start making an actual magazine.
Maybe not a printed version, but something for Kindle or whatnot.
>>14904143
>buy carbon or lose belly flab?
>scarred for life: he only wore 1 layer of leathers on a bike with no ABS
>studies show 85% of bike owners do not own a bike
>>14904165
no because then reddit will do it too
>>14904167
>studies show 85% of bike owners do not own a bike
The truest thing ever written about this thread
>>14904167
>studies show 85% of bike owners do not own a bike
kek
>>14904167
>studies show 85% of bike owners do not own a bike
10/10
>>14904143
>How to Crash and not Die! Survivor interviews: R1 guy, drop anon, fkg
>>14904167
>>studies show 85% of bike owners do not own a bike
>>14904172
They won't do it well though.
I want new bike.
I have money for new bike.
I don't know what to do.
>>14904143
Start writing bruh, we should write 10 articles by random anon and run a pressing of /dbt/-zine
>>14904195
Buy used bike instead of wasting your money on depreciation.
>>14904195
buying new is fine if you are 100% sure you are going to keep that bike until it dies. to me it's worth peace of mind knowing it has been taken care of correctly.
>>14904182
>mfw been here for around 8 years and this is the 2nd time somebody 10/10'd me
>>14903900
>>14904198
You only waste your money on depreciation if you sell it after 4-5 years. I buy new and keep that shit for 11-16 years.
