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I just bought a meme-shift car and now I regret it. It's
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I just bought a meme-shift car and now I regret it. It's like juggling bowling pins while driving.

>I still don't have any hair on my chest.
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a hairy chested woman isn't that attractive anyway
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>>14071199
touche

>i'm skinny dude with long hair
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>>14071190
Europeanfag here.
I came here to laugh at you.
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>>14071190
It's not hard at all, how retarded are you?
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OP driving a manual is only fun if you actually know how to drive manual
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>>14071190
I always wondered what happens if you go from 5 to R at 100 mph.
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>>14071221
okay. at least we don't have many roundabouts.

>>14071224
it's the stop and go traffic. there's no such thing as creeping. as soon as you throttle, you have to stick the clutch and brake. it gets mind numbingly confusing
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>>14071254
You ruin everything
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>>14071254
You can't.
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>>14071265
>there's no such thing as creeping
what are you taking about, learn how to use a clutch
>it gets mind numbingly confusing
did you pass pre school?

>>14071269
what if you really force it
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>>14071252
i do know how. it's just doing everything at the same time while in traffic and minding my surroundings

also have sub 100 hp shitbox
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>>14071190

It's a bit tricky at first but it's worth it.

Unless you're a filthy casual, then it's just more work and you should just save yourself the grief and get an automatic.
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>>14071278
>learn how to use a clutch
sounds like you like burning yours
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>>14071286
>but it's worth it
what can you do in a manual that you can't in a auto?
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>>14071190
Give it a while, it will become second nature within the month.
You will be able to command absolute control of every single ounce of power that your engine can output without some wishy-washy ECU second guessing every input you give it.
No waiting for the kickdown to figure out you want to go fast and most manuals have an extra gear or two allowing for greater flexibility at speed and efficiency.
A manual version of any vehicle outperforms the automatic counterpart. It is lighter, more efficient, and only as hesitant or as quick as you are. Provided you respect your vehicle a manual transmission and clutch can outlast its automatic counterpart.
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>>14071302
have fun
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>>14071303
>outlast its automatic counterpart
some people actually believe this unironically
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>>14071282
My mistake.

OP driving a manual is only fun if you arent mentally disabled
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>>14071278
>what if you really force it
You'll break a part in your gear shifter mechanism, probably a bushing, before the transmission lets you into R.
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>>14071190

Bro, take it from me, it'll be second nature, don't be discouraged.

Spend a day just going around town at night and practice on your hill starts too.
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OMG you're gonna have to use your brain a little while you drive do you think you can manage?
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>>14071311
you can't get a blowjob whilst rowing gears
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>>14071322
You vastly overestimate the amount of time spent shifting.
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>>14071312
It's true though, just do oil changes a clutch will last 200k miles.
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>>14071322
From your boyfriend? Sure, it will sightly interrupt your homosexual tendencies.
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>>14071332
there's a lot of shifting, bruh

>>14071341
that's an option if i remain single long enough :(
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>>14071312
I have 252,000+ miles on my clutch, I drive 60% in the city or heavy traffic.
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>>14071356
Only when accelerating or slowing down significantly, the rest of the time you can just stick it into a certain gear and use the brake/throttle accordingly.
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OP what's your favorite gear?

Mine is 3rd.
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>>14071388
2-4

1 is useless

5 gives me an uneasy feeling when passing on the hwywy. should i shift down to 4th when passing?
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>>14071407
You should shift down when you need some power and flooring the throttle in your current gear isn't giving you any.
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>>14071190
>"meme-shift car"
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>>14071407
This may be the dumbest post I've ever read on 4chan, even worse than >>14071228 somehow.
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>>14071415
i thought so, but didn't want to fuck anything up

thanks
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>>14071302
Enjoy the feeling of a perfectly rev-matched downshift as you enter a corner.

You can do this in a sequential too but the difference is like enjoying store-bought beer as opposed stuff you brewed Yourself.
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>>14071445
friend
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Bought a e38 740 for my first car instead of e36 328

no ragrets, shit's maximum comfy
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>>14071451
>stuff you brewed Yourself
I don't brew beer myself, but my coworker does. What he gives me to try is usually fucking shit.
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>>14071199
fucking

blown out
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>>14071302
engine brake
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>>14071490
OP, if you're going to engine brake, make sure to MATCH YOUR REVS right.

Otherwise, you'll burn your clutch and be in for a pretty rough ride (like ol' Freddy Gray).
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>>14071474

It does suck sometimes.

But when you get it right, it's very satisfying.

That's why I thought it was a good analogy.

Some people just suck at brewing just like some people suck at driving manual.
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>>14071302
Play Jingle Bells at a constant speed with the exhaust
https://youtu.be/Nrke4QyOapA
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>>14071190
Mercedes Mechanic here...

Almost all of our vehicles are automatics, with that said, I still prefer driving manuals. If you're a capable driver it gives you WAY more control over the vehicle than the automatic could... you are in tune with the machine. The bond between man and machine is near perfect with a manual transmission.

... that being said, if you aren't a capable driver stick with the automatic.
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>>14071524
how do you handle stop and go traffic? do you ride the clutch in first?
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>>14071265
>>14071291
>there's no such thing as creeping.
>You'll burn out the clutch
It's called let the clutch out in first while idling.
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>>14071407
Always shift down when passing
Take a look at your redline, figure out your top speed for each gear and get a feel for the powerband.
My truck starts to pick up at about 2700 and I cruise at 2500 in 5th @ 65. Typically I drop to 4th for general passing, and 3rd for haulin ass.
>>14071498
>OP, if you're going to engine brake, make sure to MATCH YOUR REVS right.
THIS the energy being fed back from the wheels into the drive-train is fucking huge.
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>>14071530
Yeah although for as little as you possibly can manage. You shouldn't be clutch riding for anymore than 3 seconds.
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>>14071530
Just let go of the clutch and know when the engine is nearing its stalling point. Seriously, its not that hard.

Look about 5 cars ahead. If they are slowing, you slow, if they aren't, then allow the car in front of you to do the shifty acceleration/decelleration.

Ultimately if you know what you're doing, in stop and go traffic, with proper buffering, you can simply not touch any of the pedals and simply let everyone else do the fucking work.

NEVER RIDE THE CLUTCH.
That's a quick way to buying yourself a new clutch... plus, if you learn how low the RPM on your car can go, the clutch becomes a last resort at low speeds in first.
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>>14071557
>That's a quick way to buying yourself a new clutch... plus, if you learn how low the RPM on your car can go, the clutch becomes a last resort at low speeds in first.
but then you'll be lugging the engine going as slow as possible without stalling
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On my daily drive to work I have to do at least three hill starts in bumper to bumper traffic. Was a hassle for the first few weeks at most, stop bitching OP.
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>>14071190
It takes time and practice to learn how to do it right.

And the only people who call it memeshift and regret it are usually millennials used to instant gratification and have never had to actually work to earn anything.
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>>14071582
do you still use the handbrake?
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>>14071549
>You shouldn't be clutch riding for anymore than 3 seconds.

why not?

does it damage my clutch to coast to a stop with the clutch in?
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>>14071530
Try to leave a bubble between you and the next car.
Car in front starts moving, wait then go.
Anticipate their motions, get off the throttle to engine brake vs using the brake at first.
DONT UPSHIFT unless you have to, you can fall out of cadence and loose the ability to engine brake.
Use the distance to avoid clutching/full stop as much as possible.
Having mastery over feathering the gas is the key to success.

Sometimes I get it perfect, and can keep in first at about 1k revs use the bubble to absorb the wait time between movements of the traffic and hardly touch the brake & clutch. It is glorious.
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>>14071567
If you buffer traffic right, you won't have to.

Just pay fucking attention to what's happening up ahead. Let the few cars between you and the truck 5 cars ahead do all the jerking.
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>>14071628
this guy>>14071628
gets it
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>>14071638
I mean this guy >>14071627
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>>14071312
Well it can. Your clutch, maybe not.
A manual transmission can also be driven even after it's 'broken'. For example, if your second gear synchro is out, you can hold it in gear or if that gear is bad you can skip it. Less chance of a full catastrophic failure.
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>>14071254

Nearly all cars won't let you, but my friend did do it in an older kia van and it pretty much instantly destroyed the gearbox and various other parts of the drivetrain
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>>14071254
oh god this is my worst fucking nightnare. this literally crosses my mind every time i shift from 5th to 4th. especially because ive shifted from 4th to 3rd when intending to shift to 5th twice now and that shit absolutely terrified me.
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>>14071199
Kek
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>>14071534
Alternatively, ride the brakes a bit in first.
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>>14071657
>instantly destroyed the gearbox and various other parts of the drivetrain
not too bad
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>>14071698
why not like this?
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>>14071617
If you coast in gear but with the clutch fully depressed, the throw-out bearing will slowly be worn out which is responsible for allowing you to disengage the clutch.
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>>14071774
>throw-out bearing
are those easy to replace often?
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>>14071790
It would require decent amount of effort to replace, shops would charge a bit a money for the job. Throw-out bearings themselves aren't expensive though.
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>>14071698
>>14071773
If your cars manufactures was half-decent, they would've made a reverse lockout mechanism standard that prevents you from money shifting yourself to the bank.
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>>14071773
everythings vertical in my car. 4th is straight down from 3rd.
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>>14071190
Dude are you stupid?
I bought my first stick car too recently and got gud in less than a couple days.
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>>14071199
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>>14071790
Ten a penny but the gear box has to come out to get there.
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>>14071302
You get to do more than just steer the car
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>>14071870
do you still stall?
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>>14071909
not if you drop the clutch everywhere bruh
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>>14071909
Nope. I haven't even driven the car much. I stopped stalling the first day.
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>>14071254
>Thinking engineers are this dumb
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>>14071190
i know how you feel op
when i bought my first manual the constant lurching and occasional stalling made me more nervous on the road and part of me wished that id never bought into the manual meme in the first place
fast forward a few months and driving it becomes a natural habit, and you start to appreciate the control you have over your car. when you reach that point, driving automatics will feel bland and you will never be able to go back to driving automatics
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>>14071909
not him but I got a manual car 5 days ago and I no longer stall and pretty much have no problem anywhere except for hill starts (there aren't many hills where I live so I don't run into them often.) Hill starts I can still get through without stalling out but it often involves hektik wheel skidz.
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>>14071935
this post gives me hope, and the fact that i'm too poor to sell it and buy an auto since i dont have an interim car

still get honked at. beep beep
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>>14071959
did you thump the car in front?

i chirp the shit out of first
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>>14071949
These things are for hill starts. Pull it as you stop and leave it on until the car starts to pull against it.
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>>14071959
>makes bait thread about how manuals are memes
>literally admits to not knowing how to properly drive a manual
GG chap I'll play with you again next time.
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>>14071924
lol, just because you don't stall after a couple of days doesn't mean you won't under stressful quick reaction situations. You'd be surprised how easy it is to forget all your muscle memory when push comes to shove.
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Sometimes I forget that some people drive cars without enough low end power to launch on a hill without rolling.
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>>14072098
My s60 has somewhere around 150 HP i believe and I don't roll back on hill launches. I think it's just that some people suck
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>>14072098
Isn't that hard not to roll back with a low powered shitbox dude.
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>>14072098
Pick a hill. ;)
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>>14072109
>>14072112
This. If automatics don't roll back then there's no reason for manuals need to.
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>>14072125
fake and gay
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>>14072214
Both.
Launch your truck up it and see how far you get.
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>>14072125
:)
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>>14071190
Learning to not be an autotragic in a couple of days. Question: why the almighty fuck would you put R beside 5 instead of 1?
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>>14072364
dont worry op ive got the lead engineer for ZF on speed dial lemme just give him a ring
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>>14072125

Sweet winch you got there.
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>>14071498
Reminds me of when I was a new driver
>Coasting down hogback at 90MPH in neutral because I thought it would be fun
>See hill in front of me
>Realize that I'm going to have to get into gear
>Suddenly understand how wheels interact with the drivetrain
> Trucks behind me
>mfw realizing what's going to happen if I fuck it up
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>>14071698
>>14071254
You can't , the gear will grind immediately before engaging. My old truck had a fucked up shifter so the 4th gear can be really really easily confused for R. I'd be doing like 60mph and I'd try shifting to 4th and it would grind in R and I'd immediately correct it, unless you literally JAM it in it won't go in, you'll probably bend a shift fork before engaging the gear. Also kinda related it was funny when i let my brother borrow that truck after driving it in the city he came back and said
> Your 4th gear doesn't work huh anon?
I just laughed.
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>>14072400
This little girl wasn't there for shits and giggles :)
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>>14071254
>Be 16
>Just got my licence
>Boxing Day
>Take Jeep Wrangler TJ out to local Jeep club meet with cousin
>It's snowing a bit
>Don't have Jeep in 4WD
>End up in a ditch on the way to the meet
>Other jeep dude gets me out with his winch
>Decide to just go home
>Kind of shooken up
>Accidentally "tap" R while shifting on the highway
>Ungodly ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR scraping sound
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How long does it take to get driving a manual down?

I'm thinking of turning my daily driver into a manual soon. Kinda nervous about it.
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>>14072364
Because second has somewhere to live. Push down or pull mechanisms are also where reverse hides.
Each to their own.
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>>14071265
What is wrong with roundabouts? They usually ensure a smoother flow of traffic if planned correctly
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>>14072484
If you've ridden then seconds just like swapping bikes/cars.
Minutes if you've got an instructor.
Its easy just get on with it :)
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>>14071265
>it's the stop and go traffic. there's no such thing as creeping. as soon as you throttle, you have to stick the clutch and brake. it gets mind numbingly confusing
Learn to drive.
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>>14072503
theyre good for low flow areas, but shit for high flow
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>car in front of you starts moving forward
>let clutch out slowly until it's all the way out and your keeping up with the other car
>see cars coming to a stop ahead of you
>knock it into neutral and roll up behind them until you stop
>repeat

It's pretty easy after your first few weeks
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>>14072531
The absolute opposite.
A four way stop is the worst case junction.
You may need to define your idea of high flow.
Pic: you don't lift off.
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>>14072557
you're a fucking idiot. you just posted a picture of very low flow.

>the only thing other than a roundabout is a 4 way stop
yeah, no.

>its the opposite
except it isn't. bye now.
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>>14072579
Go fuck yourself. :)
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>>14071322
I drive stick and literally have gotten plenty of head without issue

Better on freeways though
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>>14072594
Check for bikers with go-pros.
Just saying.
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>>14072531
its like you've never been to england, look up the magic roundabout in swindon
5 mini roundabouts around a big one that goes in the opposite direction. no crashes and improved high level flow
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>mfw my car has a decent power/weight ratio so for most driving I only need to use 2nd and 5th.
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>>14072615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bOTTTETzX4

looks like a fucking clusterfuck to me, but whatever you say bud
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>>14071190
it'll be stressful for the first couple weeks to a month.

after that you'll be meme-shifting like a pro
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>>14071312
> he doesn't know how much more complex automatics are than manuals
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>>14072690
Stoplights are worst case.
This if f* easy.
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>>14072364
>why the almighty fuck would you put R beside 5 instead of 1?

Less opportunity to accidentally pick R when you mean to be in 1

Having R near 1 used to be a problem on 4-speeds with image related pattern. https://youtu.be/ty1np2gv0XM?t=25s

That's why the hursts had a heavy ass spring pushing the lever back into the 1-2 gate, you couldn't push it all the way left unless you really really wanted to.
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>>14072017
Amateur.
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>>14072017
I'll try that next time, thanks.

>>14073025
I feel like it'd be super easy to hit both the brake and accel at once with this.
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>>14072690
that's confusing as fuck, m8
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>>14073037
just get gud, practice heal-toeing everywhere you go.
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>>14073053
What happens if I accidentally hit my brakes and accel at the same time? In an auto it fucks up your transmission, right? What about a manual?
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>>14073064
It won't do anything severe, I don't think I've ever heard a story about anyone doing that. As long as you aren't intentionally trying to burn your brakes out its fine.
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>>14073064
>>14073082

Left foot braking in turbo cars keeps the turbo spooled when you're in turn. It's an actual thing, but mostly (read: only) in rally, where shit gets replaced anyway. At worst, it fucks up your clutch faster.
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>>14071190

>drive manual 90's ferd truck for the first time for about half an hour awhile ago
>sort of got it but I don't know

I just feel like if I get a manual I'll fuck up and hit someone or stall and be killed by a giant truck or something, but I want to go fast and shit.

I dunno /o/
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>>14073121
It's not just for turbocharged cars, Its a general technique for everything. Heel-toe is just a foot maneuver that allows you to simultaneously bring engine revs up while slowing down the transmission/wheel speed to match each other quicker.
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>>14073147
I learned manual on a 400hp GTO that had a bunch of racing modifications and tunes. Was my friend's car who used to race. Legit thought I was going to shit myself the first time I drove it around, I had spent my whole life before that driving autotragic honda shitboxes.
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>>14073147
That's what most people believe about learning stick shift. Honestly you just have to take baby steps.
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>>14071190
>meme-shift

What do you mean by this?
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The only thing I hate about manuals is hill starts. But that's because my car has such little power it needs to rev high to roll
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>>14073037
>I feel like it'd be super easy to hit both the brake and accel at once with this.

But that's exactly the point. You roll into the gas and off of the brake at the same time.

Step 1: Ease off the clutch until you feel it start to bite and pull the engine RPM down
Step 2: Ease into the gas with your foot to keep the RPM steady as the clutch grabs
Step 3: When you feel the car start to strain forward against the brakes, ease off the brake, slide your foot fully onto the gas, and let the clutch the rest of the way out.

It takes practice, but if eventually you won't stall, roll backwards, or peel out.

This skill is absolutely necessary for drivers in Seattle or San Francisco.
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>>14073064
> In an auto it fucks up your transmission, right?

No. Not noticeably so. If you do it everyday all day, yeah. But left foot braking to do a burnout is a pretty common thing in autos and manuals.

I heel-toe whenever I'm in one of my manuals and left foot brake whenever I'm in one of my autos.
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>>14073064
Nothing if it's only for a moment, just don't sit there and burn the clutch forever with the brakes held.
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>>14073303
you left foot break while driving around in an automatic car? Do you sit down to piss too?
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>>14073064
The engine wins every time.
See "unexpected acceleration".
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>>14071536
>Always shift down when passing
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>>14071608
only when i play gta5
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I just started driving standard and the worst feeling is stalling on a light change. The honks from impatient soccer mums eat at my very soul.
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>>14073977
happens to everyone , or at least it still happens to me
stop giving so many fucks
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>>14073980
I always get the feeling the people driving around me have no idea how their or my car works and they just assume everybodies car works the same as theirs does so when you stall you are clearly being an inconsiderate prick in their eyes.

But I'm also a faggot so really who fucking knows.
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>>14073982
>the people driving around me have no idea how their or my car works
This is correct
>I'm also a faggot
So is this
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>>14073982
They don't. In the era of automatic transmissions everybody thinks their car is some kind of perpetual motion machine. 99% of Americans have never been anywhere near a manual.
>stoplight on steep hill
>haven't figured out heel toeing yet
>roll backward ever so slightly
>frantic honking from soccer mom behind me
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>>14073294
Downtown Seattle and San Fransisco is all hills, all the time. I had a manuel in Seattle, and some of the roads are very steep. ('84 528e)
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>>14073980
>happens to everyone
not really

learn to drive kids
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>>14071302
Enjoy life,dummy.
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>>14072700
Meme shift
I was haz second gear?
-grinding- Err mah gerd!!!
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I have a piece of shit Peugeot 308 that lets me go from D to R with no repercussions. it just revs and that's it..
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>>14073218
>what do you mean by this?
What do you think he meant by this?
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>>14073025
I live in a pretty hilly area and I never have to heel toe. I just get on my contact point and accelerate....
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>>14074170
You should watch the Peugeot episode of Top Gear. Does yours have the chimney option?
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>>14074279
what?
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>>14071773
because better pattern is pic related (optional 6th gear not shown)
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>>14073337
>comparing something practical and efficient to something inefficient and impractical

Don't understand where you're going with this anon. Do you not like to drive hard? I spend too much time on the road to not enjoy it.
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>>14071199
checkt and rekt holy shit
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I ride a motorcycle and am going to be getting my first manual tranny car here soon, anything in particular I should know about the differences?
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>>14071190
kind of related, I'm going to buy a Mazdaspeed 3 in a few days.
I haven't driven stick since my mother had a Cobalt SS a few years back, should I just do the usual and upshift at 3k will the dash tell me when to shift?
Also, what about downshifting? Will the dash tell me or is there a rule of the thumb?
>pic related, car im getting
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>>14075039
I did the whole motorcycle -> car thing. Of course i bought a manual because hektik skidz. Since you know the basics of a clutch from riding the bike, it wont be too hard. It's just a lot less hand action and more tip toes. I bought my car 3 hours away and drove it home with no manual car experience before, I stalled at a redlight a couple days later. In my car I've only stalled a couple times, but for some reason I have a hard time with my buddy's car. Don't be afraid though, man, it's second nature.
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>>14075360
Much difference between wet and dry clutch? I know you're not supposed to ride on a car clutch like you do with the friction zone on a bike, or am I wrong there?
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>>14075498
You're right, there is a big difference, but you know the basic mechanics of how the clutch works. So that will help you significantly.
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>>14072136
They do
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>>14074272
if your car has zero torque it'll pretty much die if you don't rev before the clutch grabs.
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Fa = mass of car x resolution of gravity at angle
Fb = torque of car at idle x gear reduction / coupling losses

if F1 > F2 then yes an automatic will roll backwards
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>>14075328
Dash probably won't tell you to shift.

Downshifting is just

>release throttle
>clutch in
>mash throttle to build revs
>as you're doing that engage the gear you want
>release throttle
>clutch out
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>>14075972
supposed to select gear first then mash
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>>14071534
it's called just being smart
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>>14075998
What's the difference other than being slower? Does it wear parts? My car has wank throttle response so it's kind of necessary.

I might do that anyway I can't think, it's muscle memory you don't think about what you're doing.
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>>14071190
>something you dont like
>call it meme

how fucking stupid are you?
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>>14071211
ill give you a ride in my evo babe ;)
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>>14071254
>put in N
>rock shifter in neutral quick
>stick in middle
>go down
Easy downshift from 5th to 4th and how I do it
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>>14071530
>>14071549
In 1st my car won't go any slower than 10mph without shifting between first and neutral repeatedly. Is there a way to handle this so I can keep the speed more appropriate for garage maneuvers, or do I just have to ride the clutch the entire time I back in and out of spots?
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>>14074025
>Seattle hill driving
niqqa, just don't drive east or west, the north/south roads have priority anyways
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>>14071199
/thread
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>>14076949
But what would happen if you did put it in R from 5?
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>>14077442
Mad skids, obviously.
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>>14077442
You would probably explode your reverse gear while simultaneously splitting the whole transmission from the shear torsional force exerted through the drive train. Ain't pretty for short.
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>>14077442
it wouldnt go. it would just grind the synchro and gear without engaging

if you forced it hard enough it would probably break the gear but the only time youd make this mistake would be downshift so you probably wouldnt be slamming it hard enough to engage it.
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>>14077442
A scrunchy noise because it won't do that.
Any Europe fag has done that at least once. :)
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>>14071254
i have a tractor that can do it and an employee actually fucking did it once. the fucking sound when a 200hp diesel suddenly goes from 4th to reverse at full throttle is horrifying. the $22k it cost me was also pretty horrifying
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>>14071265

#itgetsbetter
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>>14076966

You just let up on the clutch a bit until it bites and you scoot forward a bit, not using the gas at all, then push it back in. This sounds tricker than it really is, it becomes very easy to allow little blips of power and then coast a car length or two while in slow moving traffic.

It's annoying until you get used to it, then it's second nature.

There isn't anything magical about driving a stick shift, it's just a preference. Modern automatics are fast as fuck, especially dualclutch boxes. However there is a real joy in perfectly rev-matching a downshift, rowing through the gears on a winding road, etc. It doesn't make you a fucking hero like every autistic retard on this board implies, though.

It also depends on the car. I've got an E90 with a 6MT and I love it. If I was going to buy a Lexus I'd rather have an automatic.
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>>14077646
i own both and don't really prefer either above the other. autos are obviously better in slow moving traffic tho. i got stuck in Toronto in stop and go traffic for 3 fucking hours and my leg was pretty much fucked by the time traffic finally starting flowing
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>>14077646
But /o/ keeps saying that keeping the clutch depressed fully is riding the clutch and causes early wear. Is this true?
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>>14077729

no, people are stupid. Keeping it depressed entirely might put some infinitesimal amount of extra wear on the throwout bearing but it doesn't matter.

Riding the clutch is having it partially but not fully engaged while accelerating, damaging the friction surface. Letting it engage a little to move a few feet and then disengaging it is totally fine.
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>>14077729
Riding the clutch = never letting clutch fully engage with gear while applying gas

Fully depressing clutch = very slowly wearing throw-out bearing, inevitably will go no matter what as some point.
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>>14077729
Riding the clutch is when you're holding at the biting point while not proceeding to fully engage or disengage it. At this point you're sliding one surface against another and stuff wears out quite quickly if you're being enthusiastic with the throttle.
You know that thing tyres do, well that can happen under the hood.
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>>14071199
nice
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>>14076986
>live on 26th
>work on 7th
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>>14076026
There is no difference at all if the clutch is still engaged. It only matters if you are double clutching, as the leyshaft which was previously disengaged from the engine is now re-engaged and you can modulate its speed to match the next gear selection.

The method you described only matches the engine speed to the expected speed of the next gear and synchros still mesh to synchronize the leyshaft with both the engine and transmssion and catch everything up to speed.
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>>14071627
>Try to leave a bubble between you and the next car.

Fucking niggers always step in and take that bubble when I'm just trying to cruise along at idle. Even if they can't get in fully, they will nose in and force you to stop and allow them to get in. They are impervious to shame, as no amount of honking will make them stop.
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this fucking thread jesus christ
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>>14077602

I would like to see a 100 mph tractor
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>>14074014

>stoplight on a steep hill
>look in rear mirror
>car behind stopped once inch from rear bumper
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>>14071254
>>14071698
>drive 6MT
>reverse has a lock out
>only lets you go into reverse if you push in on the stick and then to the far right and down
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>>14080725
Every time that's happened to me I have to use the handbrake to start.
when I didn't have the handbrake I had my left foot sideways on the clutch and brake so I
could let off both of them at the same time.

either way it's annoying
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>>14080725
Next time this happens I'm going to put on the brake, get out of my car, and tell them to back the fuck up.
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>>14077442
Most cars have a blocking mechanism which stops a direct shift from 5 to reverse. You would have to go to neutral first, which makes it harder to do by mistake
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>>14080725
>car behind me is right on my ass at hill stop
>light goes green
>exactly one nanosecond later this dipshit is laying on the horn like he died in the driver seat
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>>14072098
It's not just power, I think the engine management has something to do with it as well. Some cars seem to automatically switch to a higher idle rpm if they detect a load on the engine. My driving instructor had a ford fiesta which would jump up from 700 to over 1000 by itself as soon as the clutch started biting
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>>14075679
My car has enough torque that it will keep it from rolling back without any gas at the start of the contact point so I really don't worry about it.
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>>14081030
What's your ride?
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>>14080903
>blocking mechanism which stops a direct shift from 5 to reverse
It's called not having a synchronized reverse gear.
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>>14071199
Thread should've ended here.
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>>14072638
>bragging about having gears 1, 3 and 4 pop out of gear
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>>14071490
You can engine brake in an auto, my 4 speed does it just fine
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>>14071322
racers dont need girlfriends tho
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>>14071199
noice!!!!
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>>14071199

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