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I see no /gg/ thread so this will substitute

why were 70s guitars so much more innovative in shape and design.

guitar stores now seem to carry nothing but
strat or strat copy
tele
les paul
SG
generic hollow body
maybe a flying v
metal head "warlock" shit design

other guitar discussion can go on too
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>>64766683
there's the /gg/
but it's nothing but shitposting
rip /gg/
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>innovative
I don't think you know the meaning

what about that design is "innovative"?

also guitar stores almost always carry a large amount of the "popular" shapes, with maybe a few special ones on the top shelf somewhere. This has always been the case. Those guitars were never popular in the 70s either.
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Should I pull the trigger on an Ibanez Rocket Roll for 650€? Are they really better than Gibson Flying V's or is that just a meme?
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>>64778139
It's a meme dude. Vintage copies like that are only "good" if that's what you can afford.
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>>64778139
650?
sounds like a lot
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>>64777722
>the Ventures Model came out in 1963
>why were 70s guitars so much more innovative in shape and design
Delete this thread and fucking kill yourself, plebe.
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>>64777722
Steinbergers started in the 80's.
A lot of boutique/luthier stuff looks pretty odd too, just look at Skervesen
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>>64778136
off set neck pickup, skewed body shape with carved.


Univox was neat and perhaps somewhat a cheaper clone of the Mosrite Ventures.
But then there was also VOX guitars of the 70 which probably pushed the limits of the guitar the furthest with the Guitar-organ
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Not gonna lie, that guy making fun of my Electromatic in the last thread got under my skin a little bit.
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>>64778171
or if you can afford a fret level
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>>64778406
>skewed body shape with carved.
It's not really a good thing though, I haven't played any of them but I'm sure the fret access's better if you reverse the body shape so that the shorter horn's on the bottom.
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>>64778429
Eh, I'd take an Electromatic over any (vintage, non-pre-Gibson) Epiphone any day. You did good, Chief.
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those guitar generals have really gone to shit
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>>64778429
don't be a pussy
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>>64778507
I swear it just went to shit in the last few days
what the fuck happened
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>>64778429
>he can't afford a White Falcon
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>>64778553
don't start meta discussion, it exacerbates the problem, trust me.
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>>64778553
Anime
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>>64777722
If this is /gg/, can someone help me identify to chords to this?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s15Sj18uRBPN
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>>64778569
>>64778581
Shhh no more
let's all talk guitars and unharsh mellows
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>>64778581
Anime doesn't change anything, save for a few retards that'll get angry at it.
Even the threads with SGcuck and that bassist who irrationally hated 6 string basses tuned to something other than F#BEADG were more enjoyable than last thread.

>>64778586
Just post the tab+sheet, it's much more easy to find the chords that way.
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>>64778569
That's true. Does anyone have any idea why that is?
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>>64778666
>Just post the tab+sheet
I'm sorry what?
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>>64778671
Because X will start blaming Y, which will start blaming someone else, turning the thread into a viscious circle of hate.
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What about starting a musical instruments discussion general instead of a guitar general? Guitarrists are mostly assholes so that may be the problem.
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>>64778719
>Guitarrists are mostly assholes so that may be the problem

as someone who used to post in those generals i cant even deny this
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>>64778706
I was under the impression that you were the one who recorded it, sorry.

>>64778719
musical instrument gen would be even worse.
>fucking classical player elitist
>fucking non sheet reading retards
>fucking keyboardists
>...
Someone once tried to make a composition general but it didn't take off either.
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What does /gg/ think of optical pickups? The concept is pretty interesting although they're fairly rare right now. Will they find a place on the pickup market among magnetics and piezos?
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>>64778783
Nah, I'm just trying to figure out how to play it. Any help?
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One day, a long time ago when i used my amp (it's Ibanez TBX15, its my first amp), i played with a high volume and something happened to it.

For some reason it became harder to get feedback sounds from it, and it seems like something changed in the sound of the amp not in a positive way.

What happened to it, /gg/?
I'm not 100% sure if the changes are still present because i can't really compare how the amp was before to how it is now, honestly. but i think they might still be present
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>>64778805
piezos are already rare enough on electric guitars, any kind of complex pickup/control's generally too niche to have widespread success.

>>64778807
Find the bassline/progression of the track first, then the general feeling of the chords (major/minor/diminished/augmented), then the extensions if there are any, or the correct voicing of the chord.
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>>64778805
doubtful considering the definition already offered by individual piezo pickups.
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Guitarists are bad musicians really and i say this as a guitarist. Most are just stuck up morons who have little practical music knowledge.
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>>64778944
Guitarists are bad musicians only when they stick to stupid guitar theory and shape crap. Also a lot of them don't use dynamics enough, they just know how to be loud and don't really leave room for the others.
The irony is saying that when I can't even jam with a bassist and drums.
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>>64778900
I'm pretty much a novice. Any tips on how to figure that out?
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>>64778944
true, but most are beginners. Guitar is just more common as a hobby instrument compared to other instruments. Hobby violinists aren't gonna be much better, but they barely exist.
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>>64778805
fuck you and your dumb meme pickup
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>>64779064
stop calling everything a meme you piece of shit
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>>64778944
Your statement is very wrong. i would say that guitar is the instrument that has the largest amount of talented musicians actually, because it's the most popular instrument.

Also "Musical knowledge" does not determine how good someone is as a musician. how good you are at creating music is up to your own imagination and inspiration.

i will be honest here - music theory, beyond what is needed to use your instrument, is useless for me. i learned some music theory and i never use it to compose.

Much of music theory is just an outdated set of "rules" that are actually not even rules, they are merely a set of guidelines that try to guide you to fit into the aesthetics that were popular in the classical era where those "rules" were formed.

I know my statements are controversial, but that's what i really think.
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>>64779025
There's no secret to it, you have to use your ear.
Keep in mind a bass's D string is one step lower than your guitar's low E string, so you won't go really high trying to find the bassline.

>>64779034
This makes a lot of sense as well, a lot of guitars are sold but I'm sure half of them aren't played, and half of those who are won't see anything other than basic chords.
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I like this guitar but it won't stay in tune for shit. Suggestions? I was thinking new tuners?
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They don't know any amount of music theory even in passing and refuse to learn it. Even if it will help them.
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>>64779134
I bet it's your nut or your saddles, not your tuning machines.
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>>64779150
Jokes on you I know a good bit of theory.
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>>64779134
I have Ibanez RG1570 and it takes it a very very long time to go out of tune if you dont use the Tremolo (which is actually a vibrato, btw.)
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>>64779124
There's no bass I think. Just a solo guitar. I'm just basically trying random chords at this point. I think some veriation of E minor might be one
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>>64779122
How long have you been playing for?
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>>64779164
Nope, nut's perfect. Don't speak to me or my son ever again.
>>64779174
>blogpost about his faganez
And exactly what good does that do me?
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>>64779205
Please remember to filter / ignore crazyaga
He is actually fucking retarded
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>>64779195
I'm 21, i have been playing since i was 12.

>>64779205
I'm just recommending you a guitar that takes a long time to go out of tune
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>>64778429
just remember, his gretsch looks like a cum rag
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>>64779165
I said most my man
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>>64779192
No bass doesn't mean you don't have a bassline, what I meant is basically the root of the chords.

>>64779205
Don't hate the ibby, hate the tripfag. Ibanez are fine really, they just get very shitty owners.
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>>64779134
Could be the nut slot but most likely tuners. New tuners and lubing the nut should do it. 3+3 in general suffer from nut related tuning issues more but nothing lube shouldn't solve.
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>>64779228
All of the posts i made here were on-topic, anon. you literally have no reason to complain so hard. also, It's most likely that i'm more intelligent than you, anon.
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>>64779228
No, you cucksucker.
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>>64779274
>lubing the nut
L E W D
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>>64779260
Do you think C#m to B is it? It sounds close right?
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>>64778139
Yes, most MIJ Gibson ripoffs made after 1976 were better than the real thing, thats the whole point in why they have cult status and sell for a lot. 650€ is on the cheaper side for a nice MIJ guitar. Gibsons turned to shit in the early 70s and never recovered. By that I mean, they started pumping out so many guitars with so many cost cutting tricks that tons of pretty sub par ones started leaving the factory a long side the good ones. Theres tons of posts in blooz lawyer guitar forums where dude buys a brand new $5000 custom shop les paul and posts pictures of laughable quality control fuck ups and asks 'is this right?'
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>>64778925
Don't piezos suffer from feedback though?
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>>64777722
;_____;
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>>64779285
Where are you from crazyaga? English doesn't sound like your first language.
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>>64778171
>>64778273

>>64779379

fuck. who do I trust now?
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>>64779134
read up on how to string a guitar with those kinds of tuning machine posts. You only want about 2 wraps around the post. Just rubbing some pencil lead in the slots on the nut or vaseline, run some fine grit sand paper through the slots to take off any burrs.

Thats a weird epiphone, never seen one with that logo and it says 'USA' below it.
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>>64779411
Autism is his first language.
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What is /gg/s opinion on classical guitar? Is it the pinnacle of the instrument? or just an outdated style that holds no real use anymore?
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>>64779568
>let me just frame this question in the moat divisive way possible and see what happens
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>>64779461
I'm seconding that it's a meme. Gibson is overpriced and generally shitty (poor quality-control). And, while I'm sure that the Ibanez will be marginally better, it's not worth the asking price and you'd be better served getting a more respectable guitar, even if you'd have to fork over a little more cash.

Unless you're just in it for the shape, then, buy it by all means
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>>64779411
I'm from israel, but i wish i wasn't.
I don't really like this place.
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>>64779461
Theres lots of 'lawsuit' guitars, theres mixed quality. The real 'lawsuit' ones were Ibanez but the term has generally come to mean mid 70s and beyond MIJ guitars that copied Gibson (mostly) and Fender. It's mostly Gibson as thats the company that tried to sue. Ibanez changed their headstock and wasn't sued.

Search for 'Matsumoko' for the good ones. Thats one of the the factories in Japan that produced the good ones.

Burny, Greco, Ibanez, Aria Pro II, Tokai Japan, Electra, Hondo, Fernandes, Orville are brands that are sought after.

Burny, Orville and Greco tend to get the highest praise. Orville was Gibson's move into Japanese production.
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>>64779632
thanks. A lot of people over the internet say "Muh rocket roll is better than the gibson flying V", but I always considered it to be more of a contrarian opinion than anything else. I could see if I got the guy to agree on 500€, since it's been sitting on the website for a while now, but I don't have a need for mid-tier guitar right now
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does anyone know what guitar this is? never seen a jackson with this headstock and the painted f-style soundholes
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>>64779568
Begginner classical guitarrist here.
IMO classical guitar is the most fun style to play, making a piece sound good is a real struggle but the satisfaction you receive when you finally get there is the best thing ever. Though don't expect people to want to listen to you if you're not really fucking good since most people aren't really interested in classical music.
It's also more sonically diverse than electric guitar imo since the tone you get out of your instrument is influenced by more factors, trying out different type of attacks with your right hand is an interesting experience.
So yeah, at the least learning it can be very useful.
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>>64778809
I'm still looking for someone to give me an answer in regards to this subject
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>>64779688
why would people pay more (used market) for an imitation than the real thing?

Lawsuit era guitars are the real deal. Just do a search.
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>sold all my gear to afford housing/food for the next half a year or so while im between jobs and going to classes
>left with a lone contemporary tele and a vox modeling amp i used as a beater

Rec me something to learn/play for this feel please.
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>>64779719

Fucking hell why does thing exist.
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>>64779682
>>64779772

so you guys are saying that it's actually better or what? I'm confused now
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>>64779826
I think it's cute, desu senpai
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>>64778429
That's a freaking great and gorgeous guitar, mate. Don't let that dick put you down, even if he used mine to compared it to. Hell, I changed a shitload of stuff just to make mine look like a Gretsch, don't feel bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWBiYgcSztM
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>>64779873
your chances of the ibanez flying v to be a very good guitar are much higher than your chances of getting a similar gibson flying V to be a very good guitar

http://www.vintageguitar.com/3921/paul-gilbert-3/
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>>64779568
Harvard tier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4ixAfJ1LuI
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My current squeezes, GASing terribly for a Gibson LP standard/traditional/classic but fuck the prices in Australia are astronomical.
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>>64778429
>>64779989

>feeling bad because people don't like your guitar's look
how stupid can you get? the only thing that's important is that you like it
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Who /acoustic/ here?
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>>64780141
Yeah, but this is /gg/ so kid's #1 'leh trolling' method is attacking people's personal preferences and claiming theirs as superior.

Anyway, here's how my guitar looked before all the changes.
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>>64779134
Hey, that's my guitar. It stays in tune just fine.
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>>64779719
looks like one of those post Fender pieces of shit.
Fender really fucked over the brand and made it a budget guitar
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>You will never grow up in the 60's and have an amazing selection of pre-CBS Fenders, pre-Norlin Gibsons, and pre-70's/pre-war Martins at reasonable prices

I was born in the wrong generation
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>>64779466
That's not that posters guitar, it's my guitar. It's an '84 Epiphone that was made in gibson's Kalamazoo factory.
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>>64780263
I think in this generation there is more variety in the choices you can make compared to any other generation before it.

And also there is a much better audio-manipulation technology this days, you can do things that were not possible before.
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>>64777722
The consumer market got a lot worse after the jews took over.
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it's wednesday anons

that means after work I get to go home and play as much music as I want

:^)
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>>64780245
G&L make better guitars at more reasonable prices.
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>>64780229
>>64779989
>>64778429
not my taste but beautiful guitars and love the sound Billy Duffy gets out of his Gretch.

also want to get a Chet Atkin bar like on that Epiphone for my Bigsby. so much nicer than the standard bar. Does the Epi have those 2 position tone knobs?
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>>64780501
Their S-type guitars just don't sound/feel right to me.
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>>64780550
Yeah, the Epi comes with the regular 4-knob Gibson layout and a push/pull pot for changing between series and parallel wiring on each pickup. Very versatile.
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>>64780475
I'll bite, what stops you from doing that every othre day of the week?
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>>64779490
kok tet
>>64779661
> juden
So /pol/ was right after all?
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>>64777722
go buy one
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>>64780652
going to the gym, music lessons, band practice, dates, laundry, yard work, cooking, cleaning, etc

I keep wednesday free for me to play music
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>>64780630
sweet ... did a little work on a friends with those and it was beautiful to play around with
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>>64780772
> music lessons and band practice stops me from playing music.
The struggle is real
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>>64780078
>http://www.vintageguitar.com/3921/paul-gilbert-3/

so if Paul Gilbert thinks 650$ is reasonable for one, then who am I to disagree... although calling it "reasonable" doesn't really set me at ease, I'm not really looking for a barely-above-mediocre-tier guitar
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>>64781111
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>>64781111
Honestly, if you wouldn't know the difference between a good guitar and a bad one then you probably shouldn't be spending that kind of money yet. You're looking at a professional instrument in the $500-$1500 range. Flying Vs are shit to practice with sitting down too, which is probably the point where you're at.
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>>64781111
>If I really love something, I try to hold onto it.
M-me too ;_;
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>>64780682
I'm actually an atheist that sees religion as a very major flaw in modern society.
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>>64779781
learn how to play tea for one but all the parts at the same time on a looping pedal, that should keep you entertained til you're good again
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>>64781367
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>>64778719
I think it's more a few of the ones on here are assholes and piss everyone off. Most guitarists I've actually met are chill with whatever, if it isn't your style, it doesn't really matter, there's a lot of styles of music, probably thousands if you take all influences into account, that have a guitar in them, so, people tend not to argue that much, they just plainly state what they think. I honestly hate tapping or heavy rock or shredding or metal anything in that vein, but, I'm not going to get up in arms about it because I can still play indie/blues/punk and be relaxed with it. Unless you're trying to play with someone in a specific style and someone keeps making it into exactly not that, it's not worth arguing over. It's dumb to even argue over something that is purely subjective in the first place, unless someone has a fallacy in their logic or are literally just wrong wrong (e.g. diminished chords aren't used for anything or 5ths are inferior and dumb, etcetera).
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>>64781457
There is no association between the statement i was making to a certain type of hat or certain type of look, even though you try to force it.

What i said is merely the truth. the only reason we have seen a rise in science and technology in recent years is because the importance of religion dropped significantly.
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>>64781309
>You're looking at a professional instrument in the $500-$1500 range.

if professional you mean in a band that plays for 1% of the bar sales at the local stage and grille, sure.

I would say if you are a beginner most guitars under $650 are such shit that you will probably hate playing them and give up in a few months.

though price is no guarantee of quality and there are always exceptions, $700-1000 is probably a beginner instrument, &1000-2500 is a good instrument, $2500-6500 professional instrument, and $6500+ collector boomer instrument
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>>64781094
Wednesday is my favorite because it's just me and the tones.
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>>64780772
>pretending to be a normie
Anon pls
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>>64778429
my 60 year old landlord has that guitar. Retired doctor, guess what genre he plays

>>64780126
Fellow Fenderfag here, I really like your guitars. I've yet to play a KC Mustang. I'll have to try one out some day. Funny that he was the guitarist who got me into playing and now I mostly cringe @ the terrible guitar work.

>>64780501
G&L don't feel like Fenders at all to me. Every G&L I've picked up feels like it was dipped in 5mm of polyurethane. Even though I know they're quality guitars they feel cheap to me.
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>>64781548
>$700-1000 is probably a beginner instrument, &1000-2500 is a good instrument, $2500-6500 professional instrument, and $6500+ collector boomer instrument
Is that in rupees, AUD or CAD? What the fuck.
>>64781575
Guitar is normie tier :<
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>>64781548
>I would say if you are a beginner most guitars under $650
Disregarding everything else you have to say. good MIM Fenders can be had used for $350 (if you're lucky), can be set up properly, used professionally, etc.
>$700-1000 is probably a beginner instrument
>$2500-6500 professional instrument
100% bullshit
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>>64781111
you sound like a fucking retard

buy whatever you like
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>>64781512
>SCIENCE &TECHNOLOGY IS MUH RELIGION
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>>64781548
>this is bait
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>>64781309
I agree with this.

>>64781548
>most guitars under $650 are such shit that you will probably hate playing them and give up in a few months
Absolutely not true. Very few people were lucky enough to start with an instrument that expensive and I also know plenty of people who started out with $1000 guitars who never learned to play.
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Well, i just got a Pittsburgh Modular Patch Box and a couple modules to complement a Mutable Instruments Clouds granular delay/pitch shifter. Recorded a little clip of it with acoustic guitar. Got the envelope follower modulating a couple parameters with an Ultra-Random on another. Pretty neat me thinks.

https://clyp.it/4docunj1
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>>64781655
Yeah its a lovely guitar, I didn't get it because it was his sig model, I've just always liked hot rod'd mustangs, its more or less a reissue of a reissue as it doesn't bear any signatures or names apart from fender and mustang which is nice IMO.
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>>64781817
is this the real gearspammer? I thought all his shit was meticulously maintained by his techs
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>>64781763
Science is not "my religion".
Science is literally the opposite of a religion in the sense that conclusions in science are made through experiments and logic while religion is irrational and logical thinking and experiments are not a requirement.
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>>64779150
Nah, dude. Most of them learn theory intrinsically because they have to. Like the difference between a minor and major chord. Or any scale.
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>>64781868
don't you know about toan dust? i got the most expensive you can buy. its vintage of course.
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can you retards stop replying to tripfags? you only encourage it, making /gg/s shittier every single thread

does anyone feel as though tube amps have a different feel/responsiveness to them compared to SS? I don't know about sound but tube amps just felt much nicer to play
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>>64781859
>>64781879
>conclusions in science are made through experiments
>WHICH YOU HAVE NO WAY TO CORROBORATE YET YOU STILL BELIEVE
t. a belief system based on faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16p_16BguFM
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>>64779720
I want to get into classical guitar, can you recommend me some material?
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>>64781965
It's not blind faith. the results of scientific experiments impact your every day life. right now when you type your message to me through your computer, you are benefiting the results of scientific research.

I trust science because science has proven itself in every day life over and over again. that is very different from blind, religious faith, that is not based on any form of proper logic.
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>>64781911
I don't play guitar but my history teacher was convinced that was the case.
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>>64781777
Dude, yeah. My strat (Yamaha, do not make the mistake of thinking I have the money for a fender) was I think 200-$300 and it still sounds good, not just from me, but, guys that have been playing for years. Also. Seeing as how most Fender Strats cost 800 to the upper 1,000s, a professional quality instrument is not fucking $2,000. Either that was bait or the dude is loaded and an idiot or just the latter.
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>>64782111
The video I posted already blew you the fuck out, I don't even know why you replied.
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>>64781965
>WHICH YOU HAVE NO WAY TO CORROBORATE YET YOU STILL BELIEVE
Yes you can, you can do the experiments yourself and get the same results.
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>>64782146
>a professional quality instrument is not fucking $2,000

name a professional guitarist that plays a guitar that costs less than $2000.

protip: you can't.
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>>64782158
I did not even bother watching it because the argument you provided in the same comment with the video was invalid, and i explained to you why it's invalid.

I will explain it again, just for you:
The results of scientific research actively effect your life. the fact you are now using electronic components is due to many many years of research on electricity. that is a very strong and direct evidence that science is based on facts and that it actually works.

If scientific research was just making things up, you wouldn't be able to talk with me right now through your computer. i hope you understand this very simple logic.

That's very different from religion, where the so called "supernatural powers of god" have absolutely no impact on anything. that is because the argument that "there is a god" is not based on proper logic. a deity doesn't actually exist, its just a product of human imagination.
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>>64782281
>professional guitarist
What would be your definition of that?

Plus many of them do not pay MSRP, there are some decent discounts for them, specially when there's a sig instrument.
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>>64782046
There's classtab.org if you just wanna get your toes wet but it's all tabulature.
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>>64782046
Read through pumping nylon, it's great for begginers, can upload it to Mediafire if you want to. At the very least you got to learn the fundamentals of good posture from there.

https://youtu.be/w9XtiSxBvjQ
This is also pretty good, Segovia scales are something every classical guitarrist must be able to play perfectly and are a pretty good excercise.

For pieces to learn, the Carcassi op.60 is a nice compilation of etudes so you can probably look into that, also use it as a chance to practice your sight reading since every classical guitarrist must at the very least be able to sight read, use pic related and forget about tabs.


Pay a lot of attention to your technique, posture and motion and always aim for perfect execution.
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>>64782442
Also try to find a good teacher as soon as possible.
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>>64782146
I started on a Squier starter Strat pack when I was 12. It did not sound or play very well and it never got a setup because no one ever told me I needed one. Once I learned how shitty my guitar was, I upgraded. By that point I could already play. It helps if you practice instead of reading shitposts online about how much your guitar sucks.

However much some rockstar spends on his average trip to the boutique luthier's showroom will always be irrelevant to me.
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>>64782335
>If scientific research was just making things up

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproducibility_Project#cite_note-4
>One earlier study found that around $28 billion worth of research per year in medical fields is non-reproducible.
Fun fact: there's a good chance 2/3 of all so called "scientific facts" resulting from scientific research that is unrepeatable. Explore these links and educate yourself, dum dum.
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>>64782442
dude please upload Pumping Nylon. I've been meaning to get that shit for years.
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>>64782551
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4983ocsa6ge91dh/scott+tennant---pumping+nylon+english.pdf

Also Kitharologus since I already logged in to my mediafire account:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/w679h6o0p4hoz0g/r.+iznaola+-+kitharologus.pdf
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>>64782534
stop replying, you're almost as retarded as him right no
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>>64782655
But he blindly worships a false God, Anon!
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>>64782534
You are the one here who is not educated.

I did not say all scientific research will essentially have a value that will influence your daily life; but a very consistent pattern that was being shown is that when you put science to the test, on things that happen to be productive to our society, it works.

That is because science is genuinely based on trying to find out the truth about our reality through evidence.

It's true here and there, there have been few cases of attempts to fake results, but the thing about science is that nothing is being tested just once - things are being tested over and over again, which is why the few attempts at faking results EVENTUALLY don't work.
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>>64779719
That looks too much like the Paul Gilbert PGM, I wouldn't even be surprised if it's just a repaint.
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>>64782697
You are now just trying to annoy me.
I very clearly said i'm atheist, and i very clearly pointed out to you the sharp difference between science and religion.
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>>64782734
>but a very consistent pattern that was being shown
If you'd bothered reading through either link I posted you'd know this wasn't true at all. There's a good chance 2/3 of the "patterns" (possibly even more) can't be reproduced.
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>>64782859
I'm arguing with a religious zealot, of course you're annoyed, there's literally no reasoning with you.
>MUH DOGMA!
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>>64782281
Do you mean a guitarist that has moderate fame and tours in multiple countries ?
Because a major part of metal guitarists would fit that description. And punk's even worse.
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>>64782863
I was talking about the pattern of turning science into applicable technology, anon.

Patterns that are found through experiments are often effected by a large variety of factors, which is why different experiments can sometimes show different results. which is why the experiments are being repeated over and over again in a quest to find the truth.

Seriously, you live in the modern age, the results of science are all around you. the fact you try to discredit science is utterly silly.
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>>64783012
Name some then.
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>>64783029
>you live in the modern age
>the results of science are all around you
I live in an age of wondrous miracles bestowed upon us by our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

Prove me wrong.
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>>64782960
Again, science and religion are not the same thing and there are very sharp differences between them that i already pointed out.

And i also very clearly explained to why why trusting the scientific community is not the same as believing in a dogma, should i really explain it again?
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>>64783174
>science and religion are not the same thing
>i also very clearly explained
>should i really explain it again?
How very dogmatic of you ;-P
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>>64783142
The burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim.

Science very clearly documents proves and explains phenomenons, on the basis of evidence and logic. the way electricity works is explained by science and can be reproduced through very simple experiments even you can do.

Your claim that "technology is miracles" is not based on any form of logic and im sorry, but you have to be pretty stupid to come to such a conclusion.
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>>64783039
Necrophagist/Obscura/Alkaloid's Christian Munzner used regular prestige Ibanez, which cost less than $2k.
Chuck Schuldiner used a BC Rich Stealth but I have no idea how much these used to cost back in the day.
Also most people with strats.

>>64783263
wowow super rekt
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>>64783286
>Your claim that "technology is miracles" is not based on any form of logic
[citation needed]
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>>64783331
There is no need for me to give you a citation for something that is so elementary. religion is factually not based on proper logic, and so is your claim.
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What the fuck does this have to do with guitars?
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>>64766683
>>64766807
Faggot, next time I tell you to delete your thread >>64766955 you'd better fuckin' jump to it.

Now it's time for my din din! Shitpost break!
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>>64777722
>bass lesson today
>guy before me gets shouted at by my teacher
>he agreed to play a bass solo in a renowned jazz club around here
>had several weeks but was too lazy, now he's trying to come up with a solo in the last few days
>teacher starts telling him that it's impossible and that he should go visit a basic theory course because he's terrible, etc.
>guy leaves, thought this was going to be super tense or uncomfortable because of the mood
>just had a really chill lesson, teacher was super friendly and I made lots of progress.
betterthanexpected.gif
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>>64783557
nothing, ignore tripfags and the idiots that reply

post dream guitar instead
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>>64783587
I really want this.
And I know you guys hate it.
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>>64783579
subscribed
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So, what is your fav amp+guitar combination?

>>64783557
Sorry, i just got into an off-topic argument with someone.. don't be mad at me plz ~
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>>64783587
Pic related. I already own mine.
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>>64783587
Ok. I'm not a bass player, but I'd become one if I had one of these. A White Falcon would be cool, too.
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>>64783621
At least it's guitar related.
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>>64783641
I can't wait until someone actually has the balls to make something that sounds like a rick and doesn't cost your liver.
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>>64783634
Question: Doesn't having your guitar hollow*body barely effects anything sound wise because electric guitars are based on pick-ups?
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>>64783750
Question: Doesn't having a trip*code barely effects anything post wise because 4chan is an anonymous based imageboard ?
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>>64783641
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=greco+rickenbacker+bass+copy
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what's your favorite power move while performing?

mine is probably knocking my mic stand over before a solo
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>>64783794
No it actually has a very significant effect when i try to look for my posts, especially in the archive.

It also really changes the way people talk to me, though not essentially positively.
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>>64783810
Shaking uncontrollably, throwing up and then curling up into a ball to start crying.
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>>64783859
That's not nice...
*hugs anon a warm hug*
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>>64783810
Tripping over a cable and showing my bare ass to the audience.
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>>64783810
Failing an improvised solo everyone wants me to nail and having my guitar crap on me.

Thank god I don't have an audiance and we're just playing in a garage.
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>>64783810
a couple weeks ago the singer in one of my favorite bands said that the song was inspired by paula deen, and he had this huge tub of butter and an enourmous bag of rolls, and while he was singing he kept buttering rolls and would throw them at people in the audience. not toss it, he'd like really fucking throw it.

pretty fucking hardcore, tbqh
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>>64783810
my hands get so sweaty when i try to play in front of people
fingers slip on the strings and I miss every note

it's really funny
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>>64781911
I agree, there's so many differences between the sound and feeling of Tube and SS amps, but I have no idea how to describe them verbally.
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>>64784161
Different doesn't mean worse ~
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>>64784161
it's not really hard non it's pretty much like
>wwooooooowooowwoooooowooow
vs
>waahooowooowoooohoooooooow
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>>64783810
>Never had the guts to play in front of other people
>Always promised myself I'd play at least one song for my grandmother before she passed

I'm running out of time, /mu/, how do I build the confidence to perform?
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>>64783810
Depends on the feel of the room. If the crowd is a bunch of people standing still, scowling at me with their arms crossed I'm gonna be tempted to swing my guitar around and act like an idiot.
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>>64784293
step 1:
don't let your dreams be dreams
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>>64784278
Same
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>>64783750
chambers, hollow and half hollow bodies can change the sound drastically and not always for the better. Les Paul and Telecaster copies are often chambered to save weight and sacrifice tone
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>>64784555
Who the fuck thinks that a Telecaster is so heavy that it needs to be chambered to be comfortable?
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>>64784637
People who parrot opinions they read online.
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>>64784637
to be fair, they are fairly heavy for an object that you may have strapped around your neck for long periods of time
it can do a huge number on your body
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I highly suspect any audible difference in sound is from the variations in how he plays, rather than the cables he uses.

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOGGnQFEpc
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>>64784637
my classic vibe telecaster weighs like 600 pounds
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I've been planning to 3d print a guitar for a couple of years. The last one I was going to do was a strat of sorts, but then my computer died and the 3d printing store in my area went under so it probably wasn't meant to be.

I'm about 75% done modeling an SG this time around.
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>>64784637
>teles aren't heavy
m8...
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>>64784920
I should have thought about this before I got VMJM memed.
I have a Tele now and it's very comfy. Some people claim their Jazzmaster bodies don't weigh more than Tele bodies but that's complete horse shit.
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>>64779325
what am i supposed to see in this one??
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>>64779394
You're a second rate shit poster now. The new crew knows how to really fuck up a thread.
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>>64784920
>>64785369
I'm a lowtest hungry skeleton and I don't find my Tele heavy at all.
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>>64785364
3d printing a whole guitar sound like an interesting idea. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to 3d printing but doesn't that seem like a huge thing to print? Plus it's gonna be all plastic so how's it going to handle string tension?
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>>64785444
im high test and muscular but i have back problems
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>>64783810
synchronized headbanging \m/
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>>64785568
yes, it's enormous, so I'll need to slice the model into printbed-sized pieces. Inventor has a stress modeler, which I intend to play with once I'm done modeling the thing, but worst case I can gouge out a couple of cavities and use a metal skeleton between the bridge and headstock, leaving all the plastic hollow to save weight.

That said, though, ABS is what lego gets made from and folks have made lego electric guitars. There are other filament options to choose from, too, like something impregnated with carbon fiber, that might handle the strain better.
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Im a yung buck trynna reach guitar hero status, any tips on taking care of hands, is overplaying a thing? Been getting aches on the fret hand, warmups maybe? Also tips for increasing speed
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>>64780501

>>64780579
>>64781655
G&L make Strat copies, that in terms of build quality easily measure up to a Fender Custom Shop Strat.
Coming from a luthier who spent 15+ years in the Gibson Custom Shop.
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>>64785444
>>64785369
>>64784920
>>64784637

Had an old Peavey tele that was fuck off heavy and no need for it ... almost like they treated the wood with pure lead
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lets all record ourselves playing achilles last stand's solo
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I have a second-hand Squier Jag Bass because I'm a poorfag

out of curiosity how serious do your gigs need to be for a proper guitar to be essential?

if I was in a band that was playing at an open mic night, performing on the caravan park circuit or some equally shitty gig would a Squier still cut the mustard? would a Squier be good enough for recording the band's songs with a multitrack and selling them on CD-Rs after low-rent gigs?

also would the answer be any different if I was a guitarist not a bassist
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>>64785860

its more about the amp then the guitar desu
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>>64785678
Your biggest challenge is to make a working neck out of plastic. Because tension aside, it's gonna need actual metal frets that are properly leveled. Also a way to adjust the neck's curvature but maybe your idea of a metal skeleton can help with that. Very ambitious project, keep us posted.
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>>64785860

It's more about the amp that makes the sound. The instrument contributes too but it's really more about how comfy it is at higher price range.
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NEW THREAD:

>>64786545
>>64786545
>>64786545

NEW THREAD (and this time it's a real /gg/)
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Is this guitar worth it?
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>>64786569
80 posts too soon
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>>64786569
fuck off trip fag
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>>64786545
>>64786545
checken
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checkem
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>>64786715
fuck you this isn't even a proper gg thread

>>64786968
>not using a moniker to be known on a anonymous japanese cartoon image board
just leave the site
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