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this seems like the best place to ask this question since there are so many conflicting messages elsewhere online
What is the best release to watch for Robotech? I'm willing to buy DVD or pay for whatever it is, so I'm not grubbing for a torrent.
thanks all, really looking forward to experiencing the whole series
>>>/robotechx.com/
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Japanese SDF Macross bds
>>14231627
this tbqh familia
>>14231627
>>14231629
Yeah but I'm not looking to watch Macross, I want to watch the best version of Robotech.
It seems like they did an HD remaster of the visuals but added in different sounds in one of the releases.
>>14231635
Then try here >>14213228
>>14231635
>Yeah but I'm not looking to watch Macross, I want to watch the best version of Robotech.
There is no best version of Robotech. All versions suck. Just buy the least costly set you happen to come across and watch it on a 14 inch monitor. Anything bigger and you'd wish you hadn't thrown the money in the toilet.
>>14231610
Sorry anon, no one here knows the answer to that
AND WE
>>14231659
WUZ
>>14231659
AT ROBOTECHX.COM
>>14231672
FAPPING TO BREETAI
>>14231672
ARE
>>14231624
>>>>/robotechx.com/
>>14231672
>AT ROBOTECHX.COM
It seems like according to the information they have in their forums that the best way to watch it, is to watch the remaster release and then disable 5.1 audio to listen to the original audio track?
>>14231610
It's on Crackle now where it belongs. Because you'd have to be an idiot to pay for it at this point.
>>14231841
>It's on Crackle
looks like all crackle has is a preview for robotech
>>14231850
Starts Monday I think
>>14231610
y'all posting in a troll thread
>>14231875
Not even trolling, just wanna watch it and since I'm a little OCD got thrown off by the reviews complaining how the sounds were changed and some other things for the remasters, otherwise I would have gone ahead and not needed to ask at all.
You can look online at the reviews yourself and all the complaints people have, I just thought /m/ would know best which version would be most legit to watch.
>>14231889
Thing is kid, in here we watch macross, not robotech, you should've gone to robotechx.com
>>14231936
>macross, not robotech
>>14231610
I can't believe you're still buttblasted about we laughing at your stupid attempt of making bds, give it a rest already
Man these hg guys sure have a lot of time on their hands after their forums shut down and their new projects got shitcanned. I wonder how many of them lost their jobs?
>>14231610
Don't bother OP this board is filled with delusional weebs who think HG is the real reason Macross never gets a release outside of Japan instead of the fact that hardly anyone gives enough of a fuck for it to be a viable business decision.
>>14236478
Try again
>>14236478
Why do you lie, when we can prove you wrong in seconds?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/12/10/shoji-kawamori-the-creator-hollywood-copies-but-never-credits/
>>14236750
>>14236758
Explain all the past releases then fuccbois. Oh wait you can't because you're a bunch of delusional weebs who think people actually give a fuck about your stupid ass franchise over the superior Robotech.
>>14236798
What past releases? Are you fucking high? HG just kept releasing the same horrid dub to scam people
>>14236811
Are you flippin high? Yes, yes you are. Freaking stoners sick of your crap thinking you can get the best of me. Pfft as if..
>>14236816
>Freaking stoners sick of your crap thinking you can get the best of me.
>>>/v/
>>14236798
What past releases? Every since they trademarked the word Macross in 2003 we haven't received anything new since. I know you're trolling but I just want you to know how stupid you are.
>>14237712
kek and that's not even the widest shot of that mini-concert.
>>14231841
>Crackle
And as it turns out, Crackle is only accessible to bits and pieces of Latin America, Australia, and Europe. Even if you're in these required zones, and you are not in the US or Canada, you only get a fraction of Crackle's streaming library. This apparently doesn't include Robotech, because everyone in Spanish speaking countries are complaining left and right on Harmony Gold's Facebook announcement on Crackle that they can't see shit on the website from their respected regions.
Harmony Gold didn't even make sure that their core audience will have access to Sony's three-ring circus of a streaming service, and other fans aren't getting into it because of the constant sleezy commercials inserts and cite that they already own the numerous versions of it on DVD. Not to mention that the episodes being featured are from the godawful "remastered" edition which completely re-edited the entire series to public domain soundbytes in an attempt to upcale it to stereo, and they are all the heavily censored TV syndicated pussy version where no real violence or nudity is allowed. This whole venture is useless.
Robotech sucks from the first episode, because it doesn't have MAAAA-CUUUU-ROSSSSS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAUwdwGOh7E
>>14240137
Not posting best version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoDLCwSCHKI
>>14237712
>Idolfags vs. delusional nostalgiafags
I'll take neither thank you
>>14231654
Better yet...
I had a 5 inch CRT once, and because it was so small with such a dense display grille, it actually made anything look amazing.
Find one of those, and use that to watch it. Because even 14" is too big for that quality.
Hell that crt had a TON of image adjustment, you might even be able to fix the horrible colors.
>>14237712
>>14237712
>>14241144
How do harmony golds robotech employees go on living? Do you think they cry afterwards or are they dead inside and no longer feel shame or self pity?
Could any of you do that? Talk to an empty venue about how popular and great you are?
>>14241163
That is all the employees.
One was hit by a car.
>>14237712
Why do women like Macross but don't like Robotech?
>>14241163
I've actually been to their panels at Anime on Display in California.
They're always really excited at their panels to announce everything new that's happening each year and they even hand out free swag as well. It's pretty fun, not even kidding.
Here is a pic for proof, I can even post the swag I got if you guys want.
>>14241163
I figure they're like the Protodeviln's mind controlled mooks.
>>14244957
Because only pasty 40 year old American manchildren even know what a Robotech is, while Macross is still pretty popular in Japan
>>14244980
>They're always really excited at their panels to announce everything new that's happening each year
You mean nothing besides yet another Robotech DVD release and T-shirts?
>>14245048
>You mean nothing besides yet another Robotech DVD release and T-shirts?
They were pretty excited the previous year about the Veritech plushies that they made, also other products in the pipeline.
A bit off topic, outside of the macross saga, how bad were the adaptations of Southern Cross and Mospedia being fused into the Robotech saga? Never watched past the Macross Saga, so just a smidge curious.
>>14241144
Aww. Now I feel bad for them.
>>14245063
It really depends on people's viewpoint, some people think that Southern Cross is actually far better in Robotech than it was stand-alone
>>14245054
>robotech is in such bad shape that a plushy is considered newsworthy.
>other products in the pipeline.
More keyrings and fridge magnets I can't wait
>>14244748
Nah, that was Kevin Siembieda, the owner of Palladium Books, who has the RPG license for Robotech. I want to believe that an angry kickscammer backer was the driver that ran him down.
>>14237712
Macross not Robotech
>>14245078
Don't. They deserve it for being retarded lapdogs to Whoremoney Gold.
>>14245354
>I want to believe that an angry kickscammer backer was the driver that ran him down.
Context?
>it's macross vs robotech thread
jesus christ /m/
>>14247208
Its not even a "vs" its just Robotech fans proving how delusional they are and how much they are laughing at their preferred website of robotech.
>>14247103
Palladium hired Ninja Division (Super Dungeon Explore, Relic Knights, and several other minis games) to run their kickstarter for Robotech RPG Tactics, a miniatures game. No one from Palladium posted during the entire campaign, making it really look like Ninja Division had licensed the game from Palladium. Once the campaign was over and everyone paid, Ninja Division was done and gone. The bait and switch was successful and Palladium had 1.4 million in backer Jewgolds.
Palladium all of a sudden had more money than they make in 2-3 years in their hands and pissed it away putting out several delayed books and barely managed to get about 1/3 of the Robotech game out, splitting the game into two waves to do so. The backers haven't seen shit about Wave 2 for nearly a year and a half and have become very very toxic customers.
Kevin Siembieda, the owner of Palladium and liar extraordinaire, got hit by a car last week and his number one stoolie told everyone in the weekly email spam. Thus the humorous belief that an irate backer ran ole Kevvy down in a fit of rage, my bet would be on the guy that posted "GIVE ME WAVE 2!!!!!!!1!ONE!" two hundred times on the kickstarter page.
>>14244771
>Latest Activity
>list of edits by 'Unregistered contributor' >making phony troll articles left and right
>MEMO1DOMINION on top of the list working on overdrive to fix and delete them so that his shit wiki stays pure.
Oh man, that's epic. That probably had that asshole doing the most work he's ever done on that whole webpage since he first created it. Looks like he also let it fall into a huge state of disrepair since its lost all of its color and decor.
>>14248330
Damn, everything that revolves around Robotech ends up in tragedy. As for Siembieda, that guy should have dropped the Robotech RPG books a long long time ago and concentrate instead on Rifts. The only worthy RPG Palladium has ever put out.
>>14248330
>be robocucks
>get scammed
I am honestly surprised the number reached that high though, considering >>14237712
>>14244957
but women do:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dhqfdpIkXKA
>>14236478
>he thinks weebs is an insult here on 4chan
>he thinks weebs is an insult here on /m/
>>14248887
WAT
>>14248832
Rifts is a barely manageable clusterfuck. TMNT and Other Strangeness is the best thing Palladium has ever made. Though I put the blame for that squarely on the shoulders of Erick Wujcik, rest his soul.
>>14245054
Of course they are, they're 'excited' about all sorts of things that they believe are a significant update to the fandom, right down to calendars and skateboards. Even trying to push that Love Live Alive and Robotech/Voltron shit on people despite the fact that nobody likes them.
The only time where these panels of theirs ever get any traction at all is when they make specific announcements beforehand that voice actors are showing up, or they are dragging in the current no-names to discuss the latest "developments" for an otherwise soon-to-be-dead project. That, and they love toting around their infamous 'mystery box' prizes to which they'll reward a select group of people they call on for questions which range from some 1 of 1000 Veritech toys from Toynami, some DVDs, to office supplies: I actually feel sorry for the one girl in a NY Comicon Robotech panel where she didn't get a prize until after the Q&A was over (they apparently glossed over her), to which Kevin Mckeever just gives her a mousepad and coffee mug after having given away all the high-tier prizes to people who asked very skeptical questions on where the franchise was going as a "no hard feelings" gesture to shut them up. And she was one of the few who asked an optimistic question too.
There was another panel, I think in 2012, where Kevin and Tommy were held up in what looked like a cramped collage classroom with an overhead projector trying to get the word out on the a collaborative Korean knock-off project called Deep Sea 7, while handing out stray issues of the Robotech Wilstorm comics and signed copies of Art of Shadow Chronicles to which they invited people to come up and take what they wanted while Yune explained the company's yearly gameplan. Only a few people came up, and most just looked at what was on the table and sat back down. A few minutes after nobody else walked up, Kevin just looks around with this expression "Seriously, nobody wants anything?"
>>14248921
I've seen you're webms like ten times please stop dumping them in random theads.
>people think Robotech is still relevant
That movie is never happening and if it does it will nothing like SDF Macross, the only part of Robotech anyone gives a fuck about.
>>14248958
Did you see that thread we had a while ago from an anon who visited one of their panels? He took pictures, there were like 4 people in an otherwise empty room. It was hilarious.
>>14249049
I've seen those and panel videos that are just as empty.
Here, watch the latest one. You can hear a penny drop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suOoVvkjs6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX1HPBAv5Lo
>>14249095
Just irrelevant my shit up senpai
>>14249095
haha, damn.
You can't even classify that as a "fanbase".
>>14249095
This pleases me.
>>14249147
>>14249156
>>14249185
Got another for you guys. Apparently this one was shot at Anime Boston at the end of last month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ptZqAvifOY
This one features the mystery box shit I was talking about. Mckeever doesn't seem to be fooling around with this stuff: He's giving all the skeptics calendars now. I just love how he struggles to personally dig one out to give to the guy who asks about whether or not the other Macross shows will be brought over. "Harmony Gold, does not have any comment at this time."
>>14249337
this was somehow worse than i thought it was going to be. i'm not laughing. no one is laughing.
>>14249337
Stop, no more. This is just too sad it's like picking on disabled puppies
Leaving out the probable mafia connections, how can a company this mismanaged, irrelevant, unprofitable, and wasteful, that has THIS much ill will directed toward them even capable of avoiding bankruptcy?
>>14249489
It is because their main income isn't Robotech, it is slum properties in southern California
>>14248887
Is that legit?
I don't even know what to think
>>14248330
DAYUM...
Can't the donors sue to get their money back? This is really shady to do against their consumer base.
>>14249489
I wonder what would happen if someone bought out HG?
>>14248958
I wonder what's gonna happen in the next decade or so when the generation of fans that grew up in the 80's watching RT get too old for this shit?
I've only met 2 legitimate RT fans under the age of 25 and it's only because 1 of them grew up watching it on Toonami in the late 90's and other inherited his brother's tapes and books.
>>14249337
>Someone asks a question about Robotech being remastered on blu-ray.
>Guy responds that their copies are in 16mm film and are too expensive to remaster.
>"Unlike Japan, North America is not willing to pay that much for them. They want to buy something of value like what we've released with the 20 disk DVD boxset that we are selling on Amazon for $40."
>Using overpriced Japanese limited collector's blu-rays of the series as an excuse that blu-ray collections cost too much.
>Implying that said blu-ray collections aren't of any value compared to spit-polished, bloated DVD box that you can actually get cheaper than the price being pitched.
>Nothing is getting stateside releases because of retarded shit like this
I went in expected something unintentionally hilarious, anon. I wasn't looking to come away completely pissed off.
>>14249514
Someone ought to. Jesus, euthanize it while it's in suffering and simultaneously save every franchise they've shit on.
>>14249500
Yeah i heard about that. That's pretty whack.
>>14249521
I've heard rumors that there's also an issue where the owners of the film stock aren't planning to negotiate with HG regarding the film stock (for obvious reasons), and HG does not have any real rights to that film, only the broadcast tapes provided to them in the 80s for distribution.
Similar legal holes allowed Manga to put out macross sequels under HGs noses.
>>14249711
>Yeah i heard about that. That's pretty whack.
What to know further?
Robotech is also not their only entertainment property. They actually buy rights to cheap movies and TV Shows and resell them.
http://www.harmonygold.com/catalog/
Apart from Robotech, they also aquire the rights to cheap South Korean television shows with things like Tangoo and Ullashong and Deep Sea 7. The sad part is, Harmony Gold is trying REALLY hard to get Deep Sea 7 some recognition as they actually called up all their Robotech VA's to dub it and showcased it at some of their bigger convention appearances. Needless to say, anyone who saw it had absolutely no idea what the fuck they were watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmgLxDnYLkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G33l0o0NtM (skip 43 seconds in, this guy's intros are annoying)
>>14249775
Oh my.
I love when one of the audience members actually quite audibly says "what the fuck!?" in the middle of the preview.
>>14249514
Younger people who watch anime don't watch shitty localizations like Robotech when they have Crunchyroll and HQ fansubs they can easily torrent or stream.
>>14251826
>>14251832
>>14251837
>>14251844
>>14251850
To me, Macross 2 suffers from pretty much the same problem as Robotech. It's a dead stale universe. In every kawamori macross show after DYRL, the macross universe has expanded, the human race is spreading across the stars. In macross 2 they're stagnant, sticking to earth, building bigger macrosses that's zentradi ships strapped to each other.
>>14251866
2's animation is really nice though.
>>14231610
Buy the remastered version, it's the most recent and you get lots of bonus features. You'll love it, don't listen to these eggheads.
>>14231889
90 percent of the people in this threads are trolls, the only difference between the original and remastered version is some sound effects. People like to get flustered about it but it's no big deal.
>>14240137
Wew lad, try harder.
>>14240382
Someone has the right idea.
>>14247208
>>14247241
It's a bait thread, there's morons on both sides of the table.
>>14252165
I'd rather be a moronic idolfag over delusional nostalgiafag anytime.
>>14253689
What's wrong with people liking what they like?
How does it affect you?
>>14248958
CRINGE
>>14253838
It doesn't affect me.
Where the hell did I said that I hated them for liking what they like?
>>14254971
That's just your interpretation for being offended though, and I said I just prefer to one side and couldn't care less about the other side.
>>14255049
Because the one side just needs to die already. Robotech was a fake dream. It's over. Now lets have the ghost stop fucking over things for the living
>>14255082
Besides the corpse fuckers, its fucking over everyone
>>14255095
Fuck off, corpse fucker
>>14255082
Here's why I care, personally.
I watched the first arc of Robotech and thought, well that was okay but I'll bet it'd be better without all the changed names and narration, and especially without all of that protoculture fuckery.
I was right, it is better without that stuff.
Problem is, the original show is very hard to obtain in my country, whereas the inferior edited version IS, all because of an incompetent company that makes its money in real estate mainly anyway.
>>14255377
>the original show is very hard to obtain in my country,
then what miracle power do you have to be able to see it
or maybe you're just crying about a cartoon for the sake of crying
>>14255385
the world would be objectively better without robotrash. Not a big difference, obviously, but still objectively true
>>14255377
Piracy was invented for this problem.
Robotech should be floating on a torrent tracker somewhere. Try BakaBT or use torrentz.eu
>>14255385
I CAN and HAVE torrented it. But I'd prefer to support the Japanese studios while simultaneously not spending several hundred dollars on the overpriced Japanese BD release.
I like to actually own my shit, and just to have the show on my shelf, i ended up buying a damn shitty bootleg because it was the only way to get the series physically for under 100 dollars, and it looks like shit.
>>14255420
I never said i wanted to torrent Robotech.
>>14255437
As I've said, collecting something physically matters to me. And no I'm not importing it because like pretty much everyone else, I'd prefer not paying over 300 dollars to buy something that fundamentally isn't worth that much.
And yes, in macross' case the RT edits make it inferior, mainly because there are several events in the latter third of the show that make no sense because of shit like "protoculture factories" etc. Also it's more heavily censored.
>>14255480
>But I'd prefer to support the Japanese studios while simultaneously not spending several hundred dollars on the overpriced Japanese BD release.
>I want to spend money but naaaaaaaaaaaah not _too_ much
yeah and then when your domestic release hits you cry it looks like shit for your excuse
go mail Kawamori some cash so he can buy more weed if you really feel guilty
>>14255515
Anime BD prices in Japan are fucking robbery. No sane person wants to buy those.
>>14255515
why do you even bother arguing for the existance of robotech or HG? They're immoral and frankly embarrassing existences that should be concided to history. Sure it's nothing to get riled up over. Let's just agree they should be buried and move on
>>14255567
To support the studios while getting the highest quality release there is, which can be watched forever. And it probably doesn't matter to newer anime fans but physical releases are always nice to have.
>>14255590
>people like Robotech
only people in their 30s
>>14255598
A dead franchise from the 80's is another...
>>14255576
>why do you even bother arguing for the existance of robotech or HG?
I'm not I'm just point out how you're a dipshit
>>14255616
one of a dying breed, thankfully
>>14255638
One should be thankful for universal pluses, no matter how small
>>14255607
>>14255631
Wait, which franchise is the dying one you talking about? >>14245434
>>14255590
>And just because people like Robotech doesn't mean they like or tolerate Harmony Gold's policies, heck most probably don't even know about the shit they get up to.
I don't think RT fans should be hated so much as pitied. They're getting fucked over by assholes who don't give a rat's ass about them.
I do think that any RT sperglord who knows exactly what sort of crap HG has been pulling and tries to whitewash them deserves all the contempt in the world. Ignorance is not innocence.
>>14255585
/m/ looks the other way. Most anons will just pirate instead of actually buy anything. I've even heard arguments about "Why the fuck should I pay for something that Japs get for free?"
>>14255648
Robotech is a dead stagnant franchise. HG is necromancer firm. The dying breed are Robotech fans. If the necromancer dies too, the zombie can be put to rest, and macross can be spread outside japan without zombie cockblocking
>>14255658
>Still in denial
>>14255480
>prefer to support the Japanese studios while simultaneously not spending several hundred dollars on the overpriced Japanese BD release.
And if this thread is any indication, you chose to support the japanese studios by... buying unofficial copies?
I'll tell you why the japanese BDs are "overpriced".
Because there isn't enough people buying. Anime is niche as fuck.
Why are movies like Lord of the Rings or whatever able to put out BDs with more content and yet be cheaper?
Because they simply got a lot more people buying those BDs. When you have a lot of people buying, you can afford to lower the price, because the amount of people buying makes up for the lower price.
When you don't have enough people buying, the price needs to be higher to make up for the lesser number of people buying your shit.
If you want to show your support for the studios, save up now and buy the official BDs later.
>>14255662
>Most anons will just pirate instead of actually buy anything.
Alternatively, they don't buy the BDs but instead show their support by buying plamo and figurines.
>>14255658
>idol shit versus nostalgia fags
Nigger have you been watching delta? There's still space jets and dog fighting.
>>14255666
That's still commendable since they're consuming merchandise attributed to whatever anime franchise they watch.
Anime fans in the West are really spoiled. They think that they have this inherent right to stream and/or DL stuff that people actually took the time to make. That's what free enterprise is all about.
>>14255662
Obviously, yeah. And I don't mind it. But nobody should say that someone else SHOULDN'T pay for it or expect it at a non-rape price. I even torrent some things I could buy if I wanted to but I do try to save up to buy the releases.
>>14251866
Ironically, RT fans like Macross 2 because it can "fit" within their narrative.
Actually have the whole of frontier on blu ray. Delta will even have subtitles, though I don't need them, it's nice whenever I show it someone who does need em
>>14255666
It's expensive because every anime in Japan is overpriced.
Gundam 0079was 300 Dollars in Japan and only 100 here,divided into two sets, each one at 50 dollars.
I only bought the unofficial dvd to put it on my shelf and to have access to the English dub, which i plan to synchronize to 1080p video and possibly encode a dual audio version.
I would gladly support the Japanese studio if they didn't overcharge. No matter how little the blu rays sell, charging as much as they do won't help, if anything it hurts sales.
Why the fuck should i have to put aside more than one whole paycheck to buy a fuckin tv show?
>>14255677
I've bought a revoltech of the vf 1j valkyrie for example.
>>14255666
I know exactly why it happens. An anime can be considered a success at just a couple thousand BD purchases. But that doesn't make the price tolerable. The prices are aimed at NEETs and otakus who use all of their disposable cash on anime and I don't have that to spend. But obviously they still make money off of western releases so I'll support that when I can.
>>14255691
>my point stands
But it doesn't. There's more to the show than idols.
>>14255691
>Disregarding show's sci-fi element and dogfight element because it has idol as one of its element
>open mind
>>14249095
"um uh um uh uh" Why can't he talk? Is it really so nerve-wracking to talk to a crowd of 4?
>>14255684
>Why the fuck should i have to put aside more than one whole paycheck to buy a fuckin tv show?
So you're saying you can't fucking save money for more than one month?
If you want to buy the BDs and they are too expensive now, you save up for a few months.
>>14255691
Jokes on you, I enjoy all the elements of the show
>>14255757
Given that I'm getting more of a show that I like. I would say so
>>14255731
It's just not a good use of my money, man.
It isn't a good value.
It's not justifiable.
Does that make sense? Even if i did save up for it I'd feel like I was spending unwisely.
>>14255774
>posting on 4chan
But why
>>14255777
>It's just not a good use of my money, man.
Then you don't buy them. You can support by buying other merchandise that might be cheaper.
If you want to support, buy something official. Don't buy bootleg shit.
>>14255805
You have nothing better to do than to hop on an anime imageboard when you don't like anime? This isn't /a/. We actually want to have fun, even if we can't stop getting in our own way while doing so.
>>14251715
Bittorrent protocol and amazon.jp changed anime for ever. Cut out the cancerous American anime industry.
>>14255815
I've done both. It's not like i actively support bootlegging all the damn time. I've done it once.
I plan to continue to buy official merchandise.
>>14255805
Thanks for getting me
>>14255480
Anime is expensive in Japan.
Why should it be cheaper elsewhere? Kinda fucks over the Nipponese fans who are the real target audience.
>>14255841
The way I look at it is that companies should just not fuck their fans over and otaku fuckasses shouldn't be blowing that money in the first place. It's not my fault their getting screwed. As harsh as it sounds, i blame the neet fuckers, not myself. Because NO other major country has that kind of pricing for domestically produced tv shows
>>14255849
I agree with your points.
Anime industry is fucked up
>>14255727
Maybe the atmosphere is just awkward.
>>14255849
>>14255856
Home video isn't always the main source income though, it's usually the merchandise. The show is just an ad for merchandise where BD/DVD is just one of them (and the premium one)
http://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data
>>14255864
It's bullshit, and the reason why people like
>>14255827
Are idiots in my eyes. Even if our outlet of the industry isn't perfect, it's far more economical, and the companies involved understand that the series matters as much as the merch.
>>14255049
>>14255082
>>14255437
>>14255563
>>14255658
>>14255691
>>14255757
>>14255774
>>14255839
>posting offtopic reaction images, multi-quoting and shitposting
Welcome back Robotech shitposter-kun. Reminder he's done this before and report his retard ass. He loves getting banned.
The release on Crackle had me feeling a little nostalgia for Robotech after all these years (like most I graduated to Macross 15 years ago) but that streaming service is shit and who wants to support HG. Just find a torrent if you want to watch Robotech, for curiosity or nostalgia or whatever. Fuck HG.
Reminder that today 3 years ago, palladium scammed 1 million dollars from the robotech fans.
>>14256354
What's with the Power Ranger lasers?
The fuck happened in here? Autist robotech fan?
>>14256803
Same Robotech shitposter that's been on here for months. He comes in bashing Macross fans and calling the anime series shit while posting reaction images from /v/ and greentexting up the ass. He got his shit deleted, again. He'll be back.
>>14256669
>Reminder that today 3 years ago, palladium scammed 1 million dollars from the robotech fans.
What? Explain prease
>>14256903
Robotech RPG Tactics, a tabletop war game with the various mecha from the show.
>>14256903
Robotech tabletop game. Palladium promised to deliver more figurines but fucked off and did nothing.
>>14257158
>Robotech tabletop game. Palladium promised to deliver more figurines but fucked off and did nothing.
Oh, you mean Robotech Tactics? Didn't know they bailed on some of what they promised. LOL!
(Never did understand why that game's Valkyrie minis were actually called "Valkyries" and not "Veritechs" -- even though "Veritech" is the worst name ever invented.)
Do they even mention Shadow Rising at conventions anymore? Or is it always just the same old stupid merchandise presentations with the occasional voice actor guest? It's no wonder there's no one in the halls if they have nothing to show, why even go themselves? Does anyone bother asking about Shadow Rising or new projects or have the fans even accepted how dead the franchise is?
Robotech 'concert' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okpnf-eaznI
Macross concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q4BfsSmq94
Pfffthahahaa Kira
>>14257288
Shadow Rising was replaced with Academy, no one probably mentions it either at the shows after the failed Kickstarter
>>14257844
I kind of wanted to see Academy (and Shadow Rising, and Sentinels (going all the way back)), but everyone knows that even if the Kickstarter was successful that the most that ever would have been released would've been that pilot. But it probably would have just been another scam, with no releases ever. So the failure of the Kickstarter was a good thing, even to Robotech fans.
>>14248330
>The backers haven't seen shit about Wave 2 for nearly a year and a half and have become very very toxic customers.
Wow. Sounds like Palladium's been taking hints from R. Talsorian Games' Mike Pondsmith, who's now more than two years late with his shitty Mekton Zero bullshit.
>Kevin Siembieda, the owner of Palladium and liar extraordinaire, got hit by a car last week
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. He's the most litigious person in the tabletop RPG industry.
>>14257288
>>14257844
Fans tried to squeeze as much as they could out of Harmony Gold over where Shadow Rising was going even after Academy, especially since HG kept running their mouth that production on the project would recommence over the production of the LAM that was under Warner Bros at the time, over Academy, Tommy Yune said they were working on it "RIGHT NOW" at the 2013 NYCC, and even into late 2014. In fact, there was even a time in 2008, during the whole Warner Bros. LAM confusion, where HG contacted RobotechX and various fansites about how Shadow Rising was certaintly "not dead or postponed" even though Kevin states that previous year that it was on hiatus due to the live-action movie (this is after his statement that production was working around the LAM).
https://www.robotechx.com/news/53-shadow-rising-is-not-canceled-not-postponed-part-2.html
Finally, after so many awkward convention presentations of not saying anything except when fans ask questions about it, Tommy and Kevin have stated that nothing is happening on anything unless the Sony's movie project gets finished and brings in the cash. Since that time, nobody has bothered to ask anything on SR unless someone is looking to be sarcastic.
The only "new" animation content they're focusing on right now is trying to get Deap Sea 7 wrapped up in South Korea (they're assisting with dubbing and distrbiution" so they can get it distributed into streaming sites. So I guess that means Crackle has to look forward to more useless shit added to their media list.
>>14256669
Man, Robotech fans are gluttons for punishment. Don't they realize they're getting screwed over by HG, Palladium and every other group that wants to shake them down for money?
>>14259599
Most of them are already onto Harmony Gold's sleazy tactics at this point. Its why they didn't support the Robotech Academy kcikstarter and threw all their millions at Palladium because they had yet to screw anyone over on the scale that they did with their own kickstarter.
In the end, the lesson learned here is: It doesn't matter if its Toynami, Palladium, or ignorant movie companies - Anyone who is crazy or desperate enough to work with Harmony Gold is a sure sign of being an equally shady asshole looking for a quick scheme to fish them out of their own problems.
Is it any surprise that HG went to Cannon Films, of all people, in the 80s to distribute Robotech The Movie for them? Like, they could find anyone else? And every else already knew Cannon's notoriously backwards movie career. Its even pretty ironic that HG got screwed over by Cannon in the end when they hijacked their and blue-balled its release unless they made it to their own standards.
>>14259364
And with the film barely even in pre-production at this point that means it'll be years before any continuation or new projects are begun, if ever.
>>14260175
That's also gambling on whether or not this movie is going to be a success.
Its real funny how they're acting like this proposed movie is in the best of hands with the crew lined up: Sony is in some pretty deep shit as it is in the movie department with their franchises not catching on to the public and making enough money or positive attention, along with serious privacy and security breaches that have caused embarrassing amounts of email and script leaks within the company. The icing on the cake here is that one of the producers, Mark Canton, was originally chairman at Sony before he was fired due his involvement with Last Action Hero, a movie that was supposed to introduce Sony Pictures Entertainment's film debut in the early 90s and ended in disaster because of Canton's reckless spending (he paid for the negative responses of the test screeners be kept from the public and Sony officials), poor judgement, and completely ego-fueled delusions that the movie was a guaranteed box-office winner and success over Jurassic Park. Views that he still shares to this day even after the movie lost Sony millions and has caused him to be completely disowned by them. The fact that this man is going to get involved with Sony again on a enormous copyright screw of a franchise like Robotech has got to be one of the biggest ironies in film history.
>>14260486
Last Action Hero was actually good.
So how are the novels if one really wants to experience more Robotech? I generally like spacey sci-fi, and have enjoyed a few of the Luceno Star Wars books too.
>>14260517
It wasn't bad as a movie. But financially it was horrible. It started out with a budget of $85 million and rose to $120 million because of increased actor cameos, special effects, and delays with editing and post because they let Arnold go insane with heading the project and nobody could convince Canton that things were financially going sour. It ended up grossing $50 million domestic.
>>14260553
not bad
it has a weird thing where they decided that the valks have brain interface things (this was before Plus was made) that help to control them
and they get into some odd territory with bears when they go off on their own
but as far as novels with robot fights they're definitely one of them
Why does Robotech even exist? Why didn't they just stick to the original since the beginning? Gundam didn't get this kind of treatment.
>>14260598
Fucked up syndication laws.
>>14260598
Blah blah Carl Macek blah blah bleh TV syndication =more money with merchandise blah blah blah Macross too short on episodes for America so mash it with some other shows ppppplllllrrrrtttt Robotech.
>>14248887
Sweet Jesus Christ
Have hg even admitted to their battered wife fanbase that the shadow rising thing is never coming out?
For fucking years I remember they kept stringing all the suckers along, saying that it's being made, it's still coming, they're working on it etc.
What do Robotech fans think of Macross Delta?
>>14260769
It's American Idol mixed with Sailor Moon.
>>14260794
>No maybe it's maybelline
What?
>>14260794
>>14260800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDO-2qce1oI
Make up commercial because they're girls lol
>>14260553
It is the best take on the franchise, so naturally Tommy Yune de-canonized it.
>>14260769
In the Robotech Facebook group I regularly troll, they hate it almost as much as Macross 7.
>>14261061
That screenshot will never not make me laugh. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for new material.
>>14261082
says the waifufag LOL
>>14261190
Don't worry, I'll enjoy my "sour" grape while you got nothing.
