>[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA]
How could you say that!?
What happened to CHIVALRY ON THE BATTLEFIELD
>>14131532
HEY BUDDY
STILL ALIVE
>>14131532
Every Macross need an edgy character.
Doujin of Mirage holding down Hayate while this guy bumfucks him when
>>14131532
GET GOOD
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>>14131532
>not blowing up everyone else so fast it's always one on one
Messer is gonna get forced into 1v1 duels with Keith.
>>14131583
lewd
>>14131532
It died a long time ago
>>14131639
Well Getter Robo is cheating
>>14131706
How so?
It's fucking true though. Expecting a 1-on-1 honorable duel is just another way to get shot down and increase the casualties on your side. And it wouldn't be much of a casualty either because you'd be a fucking idiot for not shooting the other guy in the back the first chance you get.
In war, "fair" means that everybody on your side comes home safe and alive. Fuck the others.
>>14131532
How shameful
>>14131727
That's how you end up with WWI, anon.
>>14131532
"I believe that true beauty and nobility come only in battles with others, and human life should be given the utmost respect. I truly love and respect every person who have died in battle. I don't believe an absolute and crushing victory is what we humans need. I believe that the fight itself and the attitude of warriors are what we need."
anyplace I can dowload the latest songs in audio file format?
I already have ikenai borderline.
>>14131727
The only time you should expect 1 on 1 duels is against a worthy opponent. It requires a very specific dynamic, one where each person involved know the reputation of the other and the knowledge that you are similar ideals even if on opposing sides.
Its not something you should go into battle expecting. Most participants in the battle are just trying to survive and won't have time to stop and think about your honor code.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_00.08_[2016.04.18_20.06.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WxhGpnE.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_00.08_[2016.04.18_20.06.02].jpg")
>episode three
>people will still claim that Mirage could lose this bowl
>>14131935
Why was Treize better than everybody in Gjallarhorn?
>>14131532
[Spanish guitar intensifies]
>>14131935
Tell that to the Zentraedi though. They go Zerg Rush and don't give a shit
>>14132060
Because he was a true /m/an.
>>14131532
Oh...ok.
>>14132083
Yes, and they lost to J-Pop. Let that fact sink in.
I just watched this and I hope this gets better, are they trying to sell us a mc this useless? He can only fly well when bitchy bitch is singing?
>>14132204
> Freyja
> bitchy bitch
That's about the last thing I'd use to describe Freyja.
I would ____ a Meltrandi's ears
>>14132496
>cut off
>>14132518
He said meltran, not elven
>>14131532
Teamwork wins any day.
>>14132083
zentradis are fucking cultureniggers
get the fuck out of my planet
>>14131532
Hayate is the biggest mellennial I can fly with my feelings faggot I've ever seen in an anime.
To quote Lentulus Batiatus - "you kiss my cheek only to finger my ass" this is truely the definition of Macross Delta.
>>14132496
She's only 1/4 melty
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_23.39_[2016.04.18_18.38.17].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CcnIQ6h.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_23.39_[2016.04.18_18.38.17].jpg")
[gg] really is back huh
>>14132852
Is that a new game in the series then?
>>14132856
Yeah but its terrible only 7 maps
I love this shit. The only time a dogfight should become one on one is when you are the only two ones left.
>>14132835
We only know the mother, not who the father is so we can't say how zent she is.
>>14132827
>Hayate is the biggest mellennial I can fly with my feelings faggot I've ever seen in an anime.
What?
>>14131532
Maybe Messer hasn't met a worthy opponent on the battlefield yet, hence Keith will be the first to make him love one on one duels.
They want to establish every character with a flaw, just like Mirage finds flying utilitarian and will be taught by Hayate to enjoy it more.
>>14132496
Scratch the back of
>>14131532
>[gg]
These fucking faggots are still alive?
>>14133524
apparently. Theyre also the only group subbing this so don't look a gift mercat in the mouth.
>>14133524
I was amazed too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDOuWAm0jjM
These look like nice little models for 500 yen. I think I'll pick up a few.
>>14131532
Because you've got pilots like this guy who kill steals.
>>14133649
Who is the Roy/Isamu of Delta?
Firstime Piloting the jetfighter is very difficult to control?
I don't understand why Red is the leader of Walkure. Isn't Purple the Center and the one everybody knows and loves?
>>14133754
I think Red is the one who coordinates them, but purple is the star of the show.
>>14133754
Because she's sleeping with the Delta leader
>>14131532
We all understand and agree that his death will bewhen he gets singled out and then taken 1v1, right?
>>14133679
>Grouping Roy with that shitstain
>>14133754
Red is always the leader
>>14133754
Red was an idol even before Walkure was started, so she knows the idol job better than the rest.
Purple is the face of the group, Red does the leader stuff like coordinating the team, and is apparently their dance instructor as well.
>>14133695
>>14133630
So stickers are good now?
I guess there is a difference between the traditional foil seals in Gunpla and the marking seals.
>>14133798
They're damn near the same character. Only difference is one is dead.
Can someone help me here? i can't find mylene's manga.
>>14133846
>VF-1 with a VF-25 cockpit
Upgrades out the ass much?
>>14132204
He's never flown a plane before, anon. He already demonstrated his mastery of the battroid, it's just a matter of getting used to the other modes.
Did people whine this much about Hikaru when his series started and he was shit at using most of the VF's forms?
>>14134137
>Did people whine this much
They still do, anon
>>14134109
Makina said it was a VF-1EX so yeah it's a VF-1 with modern equipment like the Ex-Gear.
>>14134109
Had to make a webm for this because on a 2nd rewatch I just noticed that you can see the rudders moving as Mirage is performing the turn. That's some nice attention to detail.
>>14133754
Red is the oldest, apparently.
>>14134109
Macross likes their upgrades.
In fact, the problem they encountered was that old designs aren't friendly to new hardware.
Like, the VF-1X, they added extra weight so the new parts can work with it and the weight didn't really matter because of the extra engine power.
The VF-171EX had VF-19 engines.
>>14134173
I like the vapor that appear when they pull a hard turn. Its a nice touch.
>>14132827
>Hayate is the biggest mellennial I can fly with my feelings faggot I've ever seen in an anime.
He turned off the fly-by-wire system. I lol'd so hard when I realized that these machines offer their pilots that option in the first place.
>>14134249
hell, they can fly themselves if you just let them. That whole problematic 'but what if the AI turns into a genocidal idol?' is what keeps them from letting them fly themselves so they keep a person in the cockpit...unless you're Luca and an absolute madman
>>14134249
I think what he turned off was the automatic instability corrector, along with Mirage's training controls.
As Mirage mentioned, the Valkerye (Much like a real-world F-16) is aerodynamically unstable for increased maneuverability. Ordinarily, the on-board computer would correct any unmotivated deviations from the flight path, but turned off, Hayate went into a spin.
Turning off the fly-by-wire would mean losing all control over the Valk, including the computer itself
>>14131532
What the fuck is Gundam 00 doing in Macross
>>14134249
>these machines offer their pilots that option in the first place.
Eh, crazy good pilots like Max and Isamu can probably turn off the assist and still fly with no problems.
>>14134270
nigga the helmets don't even look the same
>>14134267
Christ, did SDF always look this ugly?
>>14134295
have you seen the truly fucked up looking scenes?
>>14134249
Well, it's not like a Valkyrie would need the stabilizers turned on in space
>>14134288
Series helmets don't, but the film helmets do.
>>14134285
I don't know if the 19 originally had assists at all, before Isamu got his hands on it, it's most notable achievement was killing test pilots
I think they eventually used difficulty of use as the reason the VF-171 replaced the VF-11 instead of the 19 as planned.
Actually wasn't that what made the VF-25 so shit-hot, it's basically awesome like a 19 but without needing a god tier pilot in it?
>>14134333
>I don't know if the 19 originally had assists at all, before Isamu got his hands on it, it's most notable achievement was killing test pilots
it was killing pilots because the company decided to eschew control over somewhat improved performance, to get an edge in the competition. the problem was that they didn't have a good enough pilot to show off the YF-19 until isamu came along
macross mecha manual says the production VF-19 models changed it back so it's safer for pilots to operate, though
>Actually wasn't that what made the VF-25 so shit-hot, it's basically awesome like a 19 but without needing a god tier pilot in it?
pretty much
DAKEDO BY BY
>>14134295
>Hayate knocked down a notch but still nice and smug
>Freyja being cute and smug
>Mirage slightly showing her friendly side and her competitive, playful side
>Arad trolling everyone
>The idols are all likeable
>Based Zentradi being based
>GO TO HELL, WALKURE didn't show up this episode but is still best boy
>Gangsta Mercat fighting off a merman VF pilot
Delta is so good.
>>14134365
More like Deltafags are tge IBOfags of the Macross franchise
>>14134376
Trying too hard there. Delta actually has shit going on while IBO had nothing. Gundamfags must be pretty bored waiting for the next UC rehash if they're trolling in here.
>>14134386
>the rest of /m/ must be really bored if they're willing to troll the highest profile /m/ show of the season, or even the year
>implying it isn't mostly you guys shitposting yourselves
Have some
>>14134343
>production VF-19 models changed it back so it's safer for pilots to operate, though
And there are still variants that follow the prototype closely because there are pilots with mad skills.
>>14134392
>"no u"
Come on now.
>>14134396
http://macross.anime.net/wiki/VF-19ACTIVE_Nothung
And then there is stuff like this.
>>14134439
>an airframe chooses its rider.
And that sums up the non-easy mode VF-19 variants very nicely.
>>14134333
>Actually wasn't that what made the VF-25 so shit-hot, it's basically awesome like a 19 but without needing a god tier pilot in it?
Not quite. the YF-24 family's claim to fame was the integration of the ICS which dampens G-forces. Before there was a hard limit to just how much acceleration a manned fighter could practically do without killing the pilot. The products of Project Super Nova were already capable of delivering that much acceleration, but not safely as demonstrated by Guld.
The ICS blew that wide open and allowed manned fighters to pull even crazier performance.
>>14134457
Simple comparision- supernova VFs couldatch then new Ghost performance, and win in one to one duels half the time.
Vf25 comes and it steamrolls upgraded Ghosts.
By Delta unmanned fighters are back to being cannon fodder like in Zero.
>>14134386
>Delta actually has shit going on
Kek
>Gundamfags must be pretty bored waiting for the next UC rehash if they're trolling in here.
A Deltafag is calling anything a rehash? Really?
/m/ really is dedicated to hating anything and everything mecha related, huh.
>>14133876
I think the Roy of a show is supposed to be a mentor character like Ozma. And I'm pretty sure for Delta, that's Arad
>>14134606
This. It's sad when /a/ has better discussions than /m/.
>>14134606
Just things that are well liked and successful
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>tfw your plane gets dirty
>>14134671
bukkake.jpg
T R A P K I N G
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>>14134725
Reverse trap if anything.
>>14134781
He has star hair penis. That is a boy
>>14134669
Sasuga
>>14132204
In case it wasn't obvious already, Hayate doesn't really pilot. He dances. Its how he fought that first first, even. He makes the VF dance.
Put him in a robot and tell him to fight and he doesn't know what to do. But give him a beat to follow and his feet take care of the rest.
Have you ever tried dancing to silence? No, you need music.
Why is Dracken III better than Siegfried?
>>14134910
because it's not yet another rehash of the VF-25, which itself is a rehash of the SV-51
>>14134936
Then why Oryol is not a thing?
You will never live this guy's life
>>14135037
He is having some fun. They all are doing Mikumo's hand sign.
>>14134936
You mean a rehash of Kawamori's worst design, the YF-30, which in itself had nothing beyond a slight superficial resemblance to the 24 series.
What does Show up flowering even mean?
>>14135553
Green is suspiciously flat
Is only one not in a skirt
power armor belt is blocking the view of the crotch.
lives alone with and is always seen with pink.
>>14135596
Conclusion: she's a tomboy.
>>14135068
I don't agree with you in your opinions but I bring peace offering form 30 nonetheless.
>>14135553
Falling in love, kissing, having sex, loosing virginity and so on
>>14135699
>kissing
OVER THE FUCKING LINE
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_21.05_[2016.04.18_20.18.03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/40yfXU1.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_21.05_[2016.04.18_20.18.03].jpg")
I wish to marry this girl
>>14134781
That's a boy.
>>14134386
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all that jazz and well animated mecha action in Thunderbolt.
>>14136862
>discount jazz and fast moving still frames is all Thunderbolt has going for it
How sad.
>>14134137
He already improved during the episode from falling every 5 seconds to just not being able to dogfight.
Don't know why people want him to be an expert fighter pilot in the course of one episode.
>>14131532
It's so weird. I only saw SDF Macross and remember hating the Delta preview, but after watching the 3 eps release, half of my brains screams that there's too much idolshit, and the other half of my brain screams that this Delta's pretty fucking awesome.
>>14138601
*released
I can't tell whether I prefer angry Mirage or flustered Mirage.
>>14138601
The second half is right.
You should watch the rest of Macross. If all you've seen is SDF, you're missing out.
>>14138601
Delta is weird: it takes a lot of in-universe cues from Frontier, but also a lot from Macross 7. The whole Walkure project is basically the same thing that was attempted with the Jamming Birds in 7.
>>14133630
How can be VF-31 so gorgeous, after the lukewarm VF-25?
>>14136862
>15 minutes episodes
>once a month
yup, you're lucky
>>14138601
>I only saw SDF Macross
You should really watch the rest
>>14138883
Angry for hatefuck, flustered for pure loving
>>14136862
Enjoy your royalty free tier Jazz.
>>14134333
>I think they eventually used difficulty of use as the reason the VF-171 replaced the VF-11 instead of the 19 as planned.
no..
no one got vf-19 because earth didn't want anyone to have it. the VF-19A fixed the whole difficulty of use issue
>>14134173
But they arent wearing seat belts. Or did i missed something?
No ex-gear too, which as i recall from frontier somehow integrated itself with cockpit.
>>14139229
Are you blind? Look at the Gray shoulder pads with blue outline behind Mirage's shoulders. Those are EX-Gear. It's also present in shots of Hayate's VF-1EX. And like in Frontier, the pilots are strapped directly into the Ex-Gear in their backs.
>>14139233
Isn't this just a flight suit? Ex gear was much more bulky, even civilian version.
Aerial knights fly without seat belts too.
>>14139229
VF-1EX
>EX
come on man. this isn't hard.
>>14139229
>>14139249
>>14139249
No, the EX-Gear doesn't sit on the pilot while in the cockpit; it moves off and behind the pilot's shoulders so that the pilot has greater flexibility. Rewatch the first episode of Frontier when Alto climbs into the VF-25. the EX-Gear visibly releases his legs and arms when he docks.
>>14139229
>No ex-gear too
What the fuck? Why do you think it's called a VF-1EX?
>>14139249
The EX-Gear is sitting right behind the pilot.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_01.18_[2016.04.20_21.13.16].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NW5usSD.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_01.18_[2016.04.20_21.13.16].jpg")
>>14139256
So they cat take off mechanical part of exgear off?
I thought t was somehow integrated with flight suit.
>>14139265
ex-gear besides doubling as power armor and a g-force restrictor (somehow) is basically what they use to bail out if shit goes bad. when they're flying afaik there are no parts thatphysically restrain them, it locks around the pilot when they need to eject or something
>>14139265
It's attached to the back of the flight suit, but moves off the pilot while he or she is in the cockpit. That's how it was first presented in ep1 of Frontier.
>>14139273
>there are no parts thatphysically restrain them
That woudl mean that they woudl be tossed around inside cockpits with every maneuver.
So, its like they have no seatbealts at all.
Same goes for boyband bishi guys that dont even have exgear.
>>14138938
>>14139117
Don't worry, I'm downloading Plus right now, and I intend on watching everything in release order while following Delta. By the way, it's really nice to dislike the first episode of a show and then enjoying it more and more, feels good !
>>14139288
maybe its attached to that thing in the back of their flight suits??
>>14139288
The EX-Gear is connected to the rear of the pilot's backpiece, but doesn't constrain their arms and legs like it would while in power-armor mode.
>Same goes for boyband bishi guys that dont even have exgear.
They're wearing full pilot suits with helmets, as seen in the Opening. All that in-cockpit shot is entirely holographic; not just the cockpit view (which would have to be digitally rendered since there's no cockpit glass on the sides), but their suits as well, just like the Walkure idol outfits.
Pay attention a little bit. It may help
Here's a better shot of their helmets
>>14139306
Ok, i admit, i am stupid.
>>14139288
>So, its like they have no seatbealts at all.
The thing on their back, you know, the giant hole, I'd assume is the connection point
>>14139298
Same here mate, though i kinda skipped Zero till i find a proper HD source.
Otherwise i'm already at the very beginning of Frontier.
>>14139345
I did a mass Macross marathon before Delta aired.
Also I threw in AKB0048 and Symphogear in there for funsies
>>14139395
Well.
I still got a lot more time off (being bed-ridden mid-vacation ain't fun) so i'll probably pick up on some other show.
Though atm i'm dying from laughter at Ozma's face as he let Ranka get scouted.
So Messer's definitely going to die right?
>>14139503
Double dose of pineapple salad i presume.
>>14139503
Either him or Chuck, to give Hayate motivation to pull that trigger. Arad's survival probably isn't too high either. But putting Messer up against Lord Keith when Keith will inevitably be flying against Hayate in ep 1 seems to be a pretty obvious sign he's going to bite it. The only way it'd be more obvious is if he was eating pineapple salad in the opening.He's not, I checked. He's having tea and dim sum.Maybe with pineapples in them?
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_17.00_[2016.04.20_22.48.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7PkFSRd.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_17.00_[2016.04.20_22.48.31].jpg")
Poor guy
Why UN spacy is always such shit
>>14139524
Unless you're Diamond Force. Then you're awesome
>>14139007
But the 25 was great. Really, the only recent VF design that I could describe as "lukewarm" is the YF-30. The others have all been excellent.
>>14139395
>AKB0048
Not a bad thing to watch before Delta. It's a great example of what it really means for a show to go Full Kawamori.Election arc aside, 0048 was a lot of fun.
>>14139524
Backwater colony. Pretty sure they cut corners on training and maintenance too.
>>14139641
It really was.
I think the show would have been fine without the AKB-ishness of it all though. Like it was just some idol group
>>14139395
How is seven ? Are there enough cool dogfights ?
>>14139309
Projecting a hologram of your face without a helmet seems like a huge waste of a fighter's processing power.
>>14139757
7 is, by far, the wierdest Macross series and has definitely the least traditional dogfighting of any Macross works. The MC pilots his valkyrie using a guitar, refuses to shoot down his opponents, and spends 40 episodes trying to convince a mountain and a bunch of space vampires to be moved with his SONG.
It also has an absolutely fantastic soundtrack, is heavily influenced by mid-1990s San Francisco Culture, and has great supporting roles by characters from SDF Macross. It also has two great OVAs about giant-space-women-with-guitars and Space-Moby Dick. M7 is also a quite important in-universe plot point for Frontier and Delta.
If that's not really for you, then just watch the episode Fleet of the Strongest Women. It doesn't really fit into the arc of the rest of the main plot of the series so you won't spoil anything, but it succinctly sums up the entire series in a single episode.
>>14139757
>Are there enough cool dogfights ?
There's not many, most of the battles are done in battroid mode. There's also fucktons of stock footage, so you're watching the same battle repeat itself through the series.
>>14139769
Is actually using a hologram so it looks like they don't have helmets
For what reason? i dont know
>>14139769
Not if your fighter has so much processing power that even with that it has loads to spare. It's the future anon, and holograms are not only commonplace, they have been around with decades. Their computers are almost certainly able to handle them without issue, even on a jet whose computers are doing lots of other stuff too.
>>14139801
I have a hard time imagining a plane with so much processing power that it wastes processing power generating a picture of people's heads on their helmets. "They hate helmets because they love the wind" would make more sense to me than "holograms of their heads."
>>14131727
>>14131818
>>14131970
would the three of you massive fags shut the fuck up
>>14139855
You can make a viable 3D headset out of a mobile phone barely bigger than a credit card in this day and age anon. Holograms probably don't use much more in their future, so all the plane has to do is put at least one extra computer in the cockpit somewhere to do it.
>>14134612
its been that way for quite a while
>>14139855
We almost have the excess computing power to do full HUDs in the real world right now. In both Frontier and Delta we see an enormous variety of holographic and AI technology going to use in the most mundane of things (Ranka's and Sheryl's cell phones, somehow stuffing a holoprojector that can produce massive screens and lights in a variety of different areas as an afterthought software patch into a Valkyrie in ep 12 of Frontier as well as both Frontier movies)
It's sort of like a comparison with MREs. Do we really need soldiers to have beef teriyaki and meatloaf with gravy meals that self-heat in minutes? Wouldn't they be just as well off with those disguisting tasting Russian cans? Well, why not? We have an abundance of tech and industry to allow some creature comforts even on the battlefield.
>>14139930
Walkure also managed to put a holographic copy of Freyja's costume on her once she was part of the group. She wore no special outfit to facilitate it - it just appeared on her. Which means it's either built in to every tram as an incidental thing, or so small every bit of clothing has them and can be networked to or something.
>>14139757
7 is absolutely not the series you watch for dogfights
>>14139994
>>14139855
Also, look at the advertisement Freya holds up in the first episode. It clearly has holographic animated parts in it, even when crumpled and whatnot. EVERYTHING apparently has super tech in it.
>>14134649
We seem to have quite the hatred for Getter, and it's neither of those.
>>14140104
Any series that originated before the 80s and has more than a dozen fans is considered successful here.
>>14140113
Wrong on all accounts dipshit.
>>14139994
My guess is that it was a special tram that they were using for the surprise test. It would also make faking the Vars syndrome easier if you can just digitize the blood and popping veins rather than resorting to ancient makeup technology.
>>14140151
The fake blood was conventional, though.
>>14140506
The effects kind of had to be, given the chance Freyja would tiuch him at some point - since touch isn't fooled by holograms. And she did touch his face if I recall.
>>14139994
https://youtu.be/kKlQ7WDbs5s?t=2m12s
Wouldn't be unheard of. During one of Ranka's concert she managed to project outfits on her audience with holograms.
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=804812
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>>14139620
YF-30 at least goes back for cues to the good old VF-0D.
VF-27 to VF-29 were outright SV-51 wannabes, which was most apparent with the Durandal being literally notExcalibur.
>>14141572
>VF-27 to VF-29 were outright SV-51 wannabes
I guess if you pick out the common elements like the canard, 3D thrust vector/feet, and color scheme. The fighter shares a general layout similarity with the VF14/Fz109/Az130 series and VF4.
>>14141572
You say the YF-29 is a SV-51 wannabe but then say it's a notVF-19. So which is it?
>>14141622
SV-19
>>14139757
if you want awesome dogfight, watch Zero.
>>14141813
Didn't age well imo
>>14141813
The only good fight was that one in the cave desu
>>14142577
>>14142583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8bDpW823o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9pZSggOA28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZR_lGjtIHM
>>14142674
Look these fights are pretty good, but it's pretty obvious its from the early 2000s
>>14142701
clearly better than most of cg today.
>>14142750
>>14142674
>>14141813
Are you that same guy with the Zero boner who goes into like every Macross thread praising it's CGI and has no idea how the animation industry works? Is that really all you can say about Zero? Like holy shit dude, it's definitely good but it's an OVA and it does look like it's from a decade ago. Not that it isn't watchable but it's not all that.
>>14142990
Not him but I actually find Zero still visually impressive after all those years.
Just like Yukikaze, it did age but managed to stay true to it's style. And combat choreography is damn impressive when compared to anything industry gave and is giving us.
Semi related, can anybody recognize which one of pretty boys scored a hit here?
>>14142990
It's definitely him. Same three links every time. He's getting obnoxious.
>>14143956
But I never said Zero looked bad. I'm saying I just don't think it's all that. And I don't want to hear that kind of shit from people who think that TV budgets=OVA budgets just because "It's current year!"
>>14132856
>>14132873
>people had hopes for Star Ocean 5 of all games
The last few have been utter shit. So why?
>>14144566
Because some people thought Tri-Ace learned their lesson from 4
>>14144566
Nigga Star Ocean 3 was damn good. It was the second best in the series.
>>14144576
>implying that they didn't
Star Ocean 5 was still better than the previous one. The characters and story of the Star Ocean 4 was garbage.
>>14144617
>it was a MMO all along
>good
>>14144633
Faggots like you immediately point out the plot twist as a feeble excuse to brand Star Ocean 3 as bad game when wasn't as some would make it to be. You tend overlook the meaning behind it and dismiss its philosophical undertone. Not to mention the gameplay and battle system was epic and one of the best for an action RPG.
Episode 04 preview.
http://macross.jp/delta/story/?id=5
フレイアのワルキューレデビューは、惑星ランドールでのワクチンライブに決定した。初めてのライブを控え、フレイアはそわそわと落ち着かない。本番直前、「あなたはどんな想いで歌うの?」と美雲に問いかけられたフレイアは――
Freyja's debut is planet Randall.
>>14144103
who?
Manga
How did Macross attract so many hard sci fi buffs when the show is anything but?
>>14145920
Oh you're the same nigger who does duplicate posts on /a/.
>>14145920
Stay here shitposter, you're ruining the thread
>>14145920
Oh but it is.
Fold space is pretty much only non hard gimmick, everything else is explained in details. Physics works as usual, planes behave as they should, there is NO understanding unless Basara is involved.
It is as hard as Gundam or better, Gunbuster really, somewhere in the middle of scale, so that realism doesn't comes into conflict with narration.
Hayate and Bellri have to end up as bash brothers in SRW.
>>14145934
Some stunts VFs do are pushing Gs and should turn pilots into soup but its hand waived because alien tech
>>14145957
Until Frontier they did exactly that, as Gould showed us what happens when limiters are removed. And ICS is another application of fold technology.
>>14145966
Like I said no real detailed explanation other than we use alien tech to store inertia in another dimension. It has no basis in reality. But we accept it because its not important to Macross overall story and themes.
>>14145955
Only if it means Greco and Delta will be in every single SRW for the next 6 games
>>14145980
Well, this is major 'sin' of modern sci-fi. Even relatively hard mainsteam stories, say Expanse, still cheat with alien tech. Thing is, writing good story in HARD setting is, well, hard. Not exiting enough to sell. If you want hard stories, all you can really get are niche products hidden here and there and online projects/fanfictions. And /tg/, for brave ones.
>>14145934
>>14145966
Macross is nowhere near "hard" sci-fi. Almost no "sci-fi" is "hard" or even near hard. If you have faster-than-light travel, you cannot be "hard" science (since, as far as we know, doing so directly implicates time travel, and breaks cause and effect: rather than a lit stove causing a house to catch on fire and burning to ashes, faster-than-light travel implies that a bunch of ashes spontaneously could reorient into a house and then make a boiling stove. It's ridiculous, at least from our understanding of how the world works)
- Overtech materials -> even the VF-0 has power-to-weight ratios that are simply not possible with current material densities and miniaturization of power plants. The valkyries clearly use reaction mass for thrust, yet its fuel must be something exotic as no fuel combination known to humanity has enough specific impulse to carry a fighter-sized craft in SSTO without it being >80% fuel by mass.
- Inertial storage -> no basis in real science
- Micloning -> blatant violation of conservation of mass
- Zentradi themselves are not viable via simple square-cube law.
- Also, aliens. Should be out there, but until we encounter them, totally not a thing.
- YAK DECULTURE -> no known neural sensors exist that are effected by magical sub-space waves, nor would there be, since evolution is a sound theory and we're apparently not left here by precusror protoculture.
Fold transportation, Fold waves, Fold basically anything is literally just space magic. No universe with that in it can be considered hard anything. It just looks really cool.
>>14132827
Says the fag who can't even spell correctly
>>14133593
>only group subbing it
>what is https://doki.co/cat/macross/
>>14146064
Not on nyaa so not many people would know about it unless told otherwise
>>14146064
>>14146095
Also, see >>14142551. Sure, gg may have a few issues, but at least they know what they're doing.
>The fins are shown moving in response to the controls
>Interior shots with moving sky
>Visible open vents when Hayate does umineko turn
I just noticed most of this but my god, the detail. VF-1 has never looked so good.
>>14146027
>Micloning -> blatant violation of conservation of mass
Not if the micronizing/macronizing machines has a storage of organic material to build the macronized/micronized body from. Frontier had a scene where they conducted a funeral that ended in dumping the body into what appears to be a micro/macronizing machine.
Fold tech is not exactly purely going fast into FTL speeds though. They enter another dimension and travel there then get out after reaching the destination. Still, we can't enter another dimension in this shitty world of ours so it still counts as soft sci-fi I guess.
Aliens are in a grey zone, imo. There probably is life outside in this huge universe, but we haven't seen them yet. Aliens are possible.
>YAK DECULTURE
The backstory of the whole Macross-verse started with a precursor race. The "humans" in Macross having slightly different biology due to Protoculture fucking around is kind of justified.
Besides, if you think about it, there are most probably very little "pure" humans left, the baseline of what is "human" changing slightly due to humanity having babies with the other races(who might be sensitive to fold waves) is somewhat possible.
>>14146296
>Frontier had a scene where they conducted a funeral that ended in dumping the body into what appears to be a micro/macronizing machine.
I'm pretty sure that isn't what that was
>>14146296
And people keep forgetting Macross has mass cloning which made humans the majority. Straight up cloned as adults like Zentradi.
President Glass has a clone brother cabbie as seen on an episode of Macross Frontier.
>>14146500
And apparently Guld has a clone that works as a truck driver in 7
>>14146500
Still, mixing with the other races, and the fact that even parts of the original human population like the people on the Mayan islands in Zero had fold sensitivity.
The mass cloning would have spread the fold sensitivity gene out and possibly made a larger amount of people sensitive to fold shenanigans.
And if that fails, there's always the option of giving people a small piece of fold quartz for the instant ability to somewhat detect fold waves.
Pick a cover set /m/
>>14146897
I want hi-res versions of the Macross Plus OVA and Macross 7 TV(?) covers. Man those are gorgeous!
>>14146919
>TV(?)
Movie
>>14146948
Ah yeah, just realized now that the top row is just new art covers for the bottom row. Oops.
The new cover for the M7 movie is incredibly garish compared to the old one I must say.
>>14146897
wrong for plus
>>14146963
That's the OVA blu-ray. This is the movie blu-ray. All the movies are getting new blu-rays
>>14146897
>>14146969
i can't the cover pic for Plus from there.
>>14146983
>i can't the cover pic for Plus from there.
What?
>>14146983
i can't find*
>>14147046
>>14146897
Bottom frontier and DYRL
Top plus and 7
>>14146216
Delta's model really does have some nice details. The issues is that whatever shading software they're using for the 3D makes it looks terrible.
>>14147046
Thank you
>>14147050
Thank you too
>>14147058
Thanks again!
>>14146216
The details and models are top-notch, the animation is the problem.
Satelight can't animate worth shit.
>>14147104
Terrible angle.
>>14147108
I thought it looked decent. The character animation is definitely a huge improvement over Frontier.
>Satelight can't animate worth shit.
Isn't because of Unknowcases, the CG studio they work with?
>>14147110
>>14147114
that VF-1 transformation triggers me.
That is not how VF-1s transform.
>but muh VF-1EX.
nope
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_19.35_[2016.04.22_16.29.38].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CFV6lsq.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_19.35_[2016.04.22_16.29.38].jpg")
>>14147140
You're right, it is all wrong.
>>14147118
If I read
>animation by: Satelight
I'm gonna assume they animate it, if they outsource it to some unpaid shitters it's not my problem.
The problem is, it looks like shit.
>>14147180
i think the CG animation is gone by both Satelight and http://www.unknowncase.com/
The 2d animation by Satelight and maybe Atelier Muse.
>>14147180
>The problem is, it looks like shit.
Sounds more like a personal problem you have. I think it's fine.
>>14147192
>gone
done*
