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Oh no. No no no no no you can not be serious.
>>13964079
>that bite out of Sydney
It's always the small details, they're acknowledging that this happens after UC.
>>13964079
lmao that fucking hole in Sydney
gotta love the little things
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There's also this little tidbit in the third episode, which could be broadly interpreted as the Gundam Fight.
Is this what we are missing? Will the nations of the world start developing mobile suits if we blow up Sydney?
>>13964128
we need space colonies first.
>>13964079
>Oh no. No no no no no you can not be serious.
It's a running joke mate. Nuking/Droping colonies on Sydney is the trademark of a Gundam series. It has nothing to do in particular with the UC. Who we gonna drop a colony on today ? Why the shitty aussies that's who.
>>13964079
These economic blocs make no geographical or strategic sense.
Like, how does Canada rule over all of Russia? And from Edmonton? If the capital were Vladivostok or Anchorage or someshit, I'd appreciate it, but from Edmonton?
Next they'll tell us that New Zealand is the overlord of the Oceanean federation and that the Strategic Union is ruled from the god-damned Falklands.
>>13964161
I think the geography doesnt matter in this future because of how much space travel there is and control by gallahorn. this far in the future who knows what could have happened to make these random ass cities capitals.
I didn't realize San Francisco was in Oregon.
>>13964161
hurr this show set probably hundreds if not thousands of years in the future might have different socio-political shifts and people might not be the same in the same places
>>13964161
>Next they'll tell us that New Zealand is the overlord of the Oceanean federation
It's not that unbelievable.
If you went way back in time to Rome and said "hey Britain is going to have a fuckhuge empire"
they'd say you're full of shit and that there's no way a tiny island could rule a third of the world.
>>13964161
The Calamity basically erased everything you take for given about the world.
Edmonton was just a place that was probably relatively intact still and therefore it was chosen as the the capitol of that economic block.
>>13964161
The greatest newtype was Canadian
>>13964193
kamille wasnt canadian
>>13964201
The only thing Kamille has over anybody is that his autism is unparalleled
>>13964218
Kamille didnt trust women too.
Amuro got played by girls time and again but Kamille was always too wise to trust them and Kamille still scored some pussy.
His autism cooled down half way through Zeta once he got over the death of 4.
Amuro was wayy more autistic throughout 079.
Guys this is old news. We've known about the Sydney hole for a while, like episode 3 or so.
>>13964255
old news is best news
>>13964241
>Kamille didn't trust women
Yeah he just got tricked by them way too many times
>>13964267
shut up and go back to being dead Katz
>>13964141
Fumitan the cummitan
>>13964241
Amuro was stubborn
>>13964281
Katz the guy who starts bragging only to immediately crash into an asteroid
>>13964255
IBabbies can't remember that far in the past.
>>13964241
I thought Hayato would be cucked by Amuro if the kids weren't there
>>13964161
You do realize that in UC, the Federation built a huge fucking base under the rainforest in that shithole of a continent that is South America, right?
And they had their capital in fucking Africa, of all places.
>>13964302
Had Frau not been a Side 7 friend, Amuro would've pumped and dumped for sure. However, since she was, Amuro needed to leave Frau as pure as he could to symbolize better and simpler days.
>>13964091
REFERENCES.
Yeah, Zeon dropped a colony on Australia during the one year war. Incase nobody remembered.
>>13964141
Who's this qt?
I haven't seen IBO.
![89ec86fe31676a9dd9c3ac815802bdaa[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Uv1fBLu.jpg "89ec86fe31676a9dd9c3ac815802bdaa[1].png")
>>13964327
A corpse. Shot in the back.
>>13964309
>You do realize that in UC, the Federation built a huge fucking base under the rainforest in that shithole of a continent that is South America, right?
It was the ultimate terrestrial base in terms of defensibility tho. That made sense.
>And they had their capital in fucking Africa, of all places.
Dakar is, at the very least, on the coast. Hell, it's on the fucking Cap-Vert peninsula that extends miles into the Atlantic. Furthermore, Cap-Vert was the launchpad for Portuguese exploration from the 1400's onward; it was later captured by the French who established Dakar in the mid 1800's. As far as "neutral" ground goes, Dakar is an amazing choice for a global city.
>>13964336
Aww, that's a shame.
>>13964346
It is indeed.
>>13964161
>how does Canada rule over all of Russia
Found the retard. You'd think after all the exposition they spoonfeed you that you'd have caught on.I know you're just trolling though
>>13964338
>Dakar is, at the very least, on the coast. Hell, it's on the fucking Cap-Vert peninsula that extends miles into the Atlantic.
I should really brush up on my geography. I was under the impression Dakar was in Sudan all this time
sigh
>>13964400
You probably confused it with Darfur, the inland area of Western Sudan.
>>13964161
The capital should be Calgary............Alberta, Canada
>The Main Mobile Unit is called The Hitmen and their base, the Dungeon.
>>13964407
Yeah, they already showed this earlier in the show
>>13964407
Greenland: 100% uninhabited
>>13964313
I don't believe it was an accident, can you imagine how viciously the Aussies must have been shitposting about Zeon?
>>13964493
>The arabs and blacks take over Europe
No they didn't. After humanity was almost driven to extinction Gjallarhorn intervened and reorganized Earth into those blocs.
>>13964493
Regardess of age or universe, everyone knows the source of shitposting must be destroyed
>>13964510
>The Arabs and blacks took over Europe
Thanks Gjallarhorn .
>>13964510
Around a Graze, hide your baes.
>>13964190
2/3
>>13964493
>>13964510
>>13964407
Europ-err, I mean, African Union looks worst than South America (which looks pretty fine now that it finally merged). Lmao
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>>13964548
>plot progression
this is the best IBO meme
>>13964548
oh fuck i'm dying
>tfw MErrybit dont "comfort "
Orga.
>Instead is Mika talking about edgy bullshit
Fuck
>>13964499
Would YOU want to live there? I mean, come on, what's their biggest export? Ice?
>>13964499
They probably dropped a colony on them too
>>13964650
Hoping to hit what?
>>13964654
idk, the Ice Golf World Championships? To be honest the animators probably dropped the ball or some shit.
>>13964663
or maybe no one wants to rebuild anything there after the war since there's nothing in it
>>13964193
Ted Cruz is a Newtype?
>>13964668
Probably this desu
>>13964715
Your joke makes no sense you dumb piece of shit
>>13964548
I fuckin love Mika.No homo.
>>13964715
Yes.Why the fuck do I have this?
>>13964079
>>13964125
Woah neat. I always thought there was fun to e had in playing around with the Black History. And here it is.
Part of me kinda hoped Eugene and Carta became a thing, mainly because of this scene.
>>13964760
Oh well, maybe some s2 shenanigans will bring our star-crossed lovers together.
>>13964128
>Will the nations of the world start developing mobile suits if we blow up Sydney?
Even if it doesn't work, the world will still be a better place.
>>13964079
Why does Gundam hate Australia?
>>13964798
>Just Tomino´s things.
>>13964161
>Like, how does Canada rule over all of Russia?
It's the frosty union.
>>13964507
The Zabis just couldn't handle the purest form of banter.
>>13964798
>Why does Gundam hate Australia?
Aussies living in Australia are an insult to heaven because that place is hell on earth.
Also, because they hate Asians or something; some hubbub about Asians there I believe.
>>13964715
>>13964730
>>13964744
Pic related
>>13964839
>>13964798
It's not well-remembered because America threw so much weight around in the Pacific, but during WWII Indians and Aussies scared the fuck out of the Japanese. Australia got rekt, and so does every Indian-looking girl in gundam. Being a brown girl in Tomino's world is suffering.
>>13964798
Have you ever fucking used the internet?
>>13964839
I'd love those little models if they came pre-painted.
>>13964850
h e l l o r a t o
>>13964851
hue
>>13964821
>oi cunt ya think those helmets make ya look manly
>screenshotted collage of posts saying the zaku looks like a penis.
>>13964850
Cruz looks younger in this picture.
>>13964091
>>13964092
You guy sknow that the hole in Sydney was visible in like 10 episodes ago, when they first explained the economic blocs, right?
![Gihren_Zabi_28Gundam29[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Lgy4MZZ.jpg "Gihren_Zabi_28Gundam29[1].jpg")
>>13964079
>Aim for huehueland
>Miss
>Still hit straya
Did absolutely nothing wrong.
>>13964757
>Trying to retroactively jam yourself into the Black History
Tomino will make sure to ruin your plan.
>>13964190
truth
we don't recall history too well in Murrika, but keep in mind Samarkand was once a major economic hub and the greatest enemy to mankind were a bunch of Cowboys from Asia...
>>13964824
>>Why does Gundam hate Australia?
Australia is an island of criminals. If you're going to drop a colony better do it over a hive of scum and villainy.
>>13964943
UC probably doesn't have internet because of minovsky particles but it would be very clean without all the shitposters
>>13964407
>African Union
THE NIGHTMARE.
>>13965065
ALAYA VIJNANA
>>13964152
lol no.
That whole "separate universes" thing went out the window 17 years ago. It's all one timeline, that crater in OP's pic is from January 0079.
The lack of the other craters from X would seem to indicate this is right after UC. We don't know what healed the other craters from X, though we do know that some time after G Gundam and before the Moonlight Butterfly the surface of the Earth was restored using perfected DG Cells (according to Tomino's setting notes for Turn A). The 300 years of war they keep referring to may even be the UC we all know and love, it already goes all the way up to 223 if you count G-Saviour.
>>13965121
So a franchise can't reference itself between installments or it's all a big conspiracy? Gotcha, gotcha.
>>13965121
X's craters are irrelevant for maps. The episode 2 map makes it look like they're "erase landmasses" type things, like the Australia colony drop, but when they actually show a detailed world map later the craters are shown to be just superficial damage, not new sea areas.
>>13965121
Reminder.
After War Gundam X follows the end of the UC, but despite all the colony drops, it really didn't reshape the landmasses that significantly.
>>13964824
>Also, because they hate Asians or something; some hubbub about Asians there I believe.
Nah, Aussies only hate indonesia for killing two aussie drug smugglers.
>>13964407
>This is who the world will look when Trump wins
>>13964079
We're talking about how she went to high-level diplomatic talks in shorts, right?
>>13965662
And malaysians and chinks for ruining their housing market.
>>13965697
>trump will end shitposting by erasing australia
BASED
>>13965849
But trump is the biggest shitposter of all. If trump wins, that means majority of the american voters are shitposters too.
>>13965859
I wonder who could be behind this post
>>13965862
Trump voters please. Who are you idiots going to shift the blame to when the muslims, other migrants and strayans are wiped out? Will you then finally accept that you lot are the real shitposters?
>>13965870
bern in hell, kid.
>>13964519
>>13964510
It kinda makes sense then since they are putting people who would despise each other into these large states to make them more governable by external/imperial powers.
>>13965121
Oh fuck it's this retard
>>13965192
>>13965121
Isn't being this literal minded a actual sign of autism?
Also
>really didn't reshape the landmasses that significantly.
Wna tto try that agian?
>>13965697
US of Trump taking over Mexico, Central and South America?
>two weeks ago
>Mika: "KUDELIA SUGOI!!! She didn't kill anyone"
>this week
>Mika: "Orga doushio? Let's kill EVERYONE!!!"
I hate when the writers flip-flop for the sake of drama.
>>13964079
So, X is after this era?
>>13966444
How is it flip-flopping?
He was amazed she stopped that massive fleet from attacking by just putting herself on TV. To force people to back down without punching, yelling, or killing is something he doesn't seem to have seen a lot of on Mars.
And then he motivated Orga by spouting his usual requests for orders. The point there wasn't so much that he was bloodthirsty (though he probably is for Biscuit's sake), but rather that Orga had shut down. And his point was simple - "Is this it? Are we giving up? If we're not giving up, tell me what's next."
The two are not in conflict. He can be amazed that someone has influence without violence, and then still opt to exert his influence through violence. The same way you can admire someone who bikes to work, and still opt to take your car.
>>13965697
What? If anything it's like it'd be the opposite.
>>13966433
We call it manifest destiny ver Trump.
>>13965862
>Aussie detected
>>13964125
woah.
WOAH.
>>13964125
They're clearly talking about Gunpla battle.
I love how insane Mika is. Makes for a really refreshing main character.
>>13964079
So 00 is the only one that doesn't fit with the rest of the shows' crazy timeline? Kinda sad.
>>13966506
X then Turn A should be the last ones, shouldn't they? What about Wing?
>>13966444
he only understands killing, so it's no wonder that he's amazed at diplomacy...>>13966517
>>13964760
>>13964763
>those filters
you can change the file name, but we know that came from tumblr.
>>13966829
00 comes before UC.
>>13966974
>no orbital elevators
I don't think so.
>>13966979
They were stolen when the ayy lmao decided to leave because they had transcended terrestrial memes.
>>13964780
Melbournefag pls
>>13964161
I remember an old mod for Civilization II back in the 90s that had the Russians assisting Canada in developing their northern resources.
...granted, the mod was called "New World Order" and made by some crazy right-winger from Montana...
>>13965187
Gonna need to see a screenshot on that. Because the new water bodies were visible from orbit on the actual planet.
>>13965166
It's not a conspiracy, it's the official stance from Sunrise/Bandai. Even Tomino called for the fans to make a single timeline for all of Gundam (when he announced that Reco was after Turn A).
>>13966393
It did reshape the landscape, very significantly. And according to Tomino's setting notes for Turn A the Earth's surface was later restored by Perfected DG Cells.
Or, if you prefer, you could assume that Kio made some sort of environment-unfucker with the Exa-DB after solving the Mars Rays thing.
>>13967101
So I guess the only way this works is, roughly:
> 0079
> Any series still showing the Sydney crater
> X
> G
> Post-G surface restoration
> Any series not showing the Sydney Crater
> Turn A
> G-Reco
>>13967109
Basically, yeah. That was the start of the sorting in this thread:
>>13965399
We assumed SEED was closest to Turn A because the Lunar Capital was in Destiny (Copernicus City). You never really see the an earth map or a good view of the continents in AGE, but it makes more sense as a later era considering it acknowledges that mobile suits are ancient and there are forgotten eras of mobile suit warfare in their history.
>>13967101
>according to Tomino's setting notes for Turn A the Earth's surface was later restored by Perfected DG Cells.
[citation needed]
Tomino hasn't even fully watched G Gundam nor does he like it, and he doesnt even think of any of the AU as even remotely relevant.
>>13967144
>Tomino hasn't even fully watched G Gundam nor does he like it
What a fucking faggot. The only good AU show and he doesn't like it. I guess it lacks autism and has too much coherence for him.
>>13967147
>The only good AU show and he doesn't like it. I guess it lacks autism and has too much coherence for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvq0Jw6J9Ao
>>13967168
That's cheesy and awesome. Your point is?
>>13967221
>The only good AU show and he doesn't like it. I guess it lacks autism and has too much coherence for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAizwLfZbUA
>good
>lacks autism
>coherence
>>13964867
UCHG you nigger
I'm pretty fucking sure that crater was created when the fucking moon got split in half.
>>13967241
> Coherent
> logically or aesthetically ordered or integrated: consistent
> having clarity or intelligibility: understandable
G Gundam is pretty fanciful in its core ideas and aesthetics but it's generally pretty straightforward and consistent in how it portrays its world. Everyone moved to floating asteroids carved into the shape of (and decorated with) national emblems. What's inconsistent or hard to understand about that?
![[DEEP CONCERN INTENSIFIES].gif](https://i.imgur.com/E8xhKeK.gif "[DEEP CONCERN INTENSIFIES].gif")
>>13964407
>Dat Oceanian Federation
Gets me giggling everytime
>>13964079
>Alaska part of Canada and Russia
Triggered
>>13964161
>>13973654
I guess it kind of makes sense if you look at it this way and consider the melting of the polar ice.
>>13967144
>Tomino hasn't even fully watched G Gundam nor does he like it,
The History of Turn A book contains Tomino's setting notes from when he was writing the story. Not only is there reference to earth's crust being re-created with DG Cells, there's mention of a second attempt by eco-terrorists to corrupt the DG Cells and destroy the environment, and mention that the nanomachines in the MLB as well as the healing function of the Turn A are DG Cells.
Now explain to me how you claim to know what shows Yoshiyuki Tomino has and hasn't watched. You live at his house or something? Are you even aware of Tomino's opinion of Imagawa?
>>13964161
>Like, how does Canada rule over all of Russia?
Our bears are stronger than their bears.
>>13974031
Do you have a source for this? It's not that I believe you but I love turn A and I find this really interesting.
It makes a lot of sense when you think about it too. G Gundam mobile suits actually appear in schematics as a cameo, but it does imply there was a history of their use in the Turn A Universe. There was a magazine that translated their descriptions and Turn A lore but I have no idea where I saved it, does anyone have this too?
G Reco is 500 years after Turn A too which is pretty interesting. The Lucifer Gundam actually has a moonlight butterfly too, I mean we kind of saw it but it wasn't called it in the show.
>>13974035
Ha-ha, no. We have anti-sub bears and our pancakes are better.
>>13974038
there's a partial pastebin somewhere, TE Spoiler Guy (an /m/ regular) was translating from a physical copy of the book and answering questions. Don't know if the thread's in an archive or not, though.
>>13974009
Alaska is rightful American clay, I will never hand it over to anyone else.
>>13967144
>Tomino hasn't even fully watched G Gundam
I smell /v/ level bullshit.
>>13964241
>amuro was autistic throughout 0079
in what ways? i literally just finished watching 0079 again this morning and i am surprised by how not autistic amuro really is. he's distant and he doesn't seem interested in fraw bow, yeah; and he's rebellious in the way you might imagine a 15 year old child soldier with latent psychic powers might be, but autistic? i don't think so.
>>13964091
How can this be after UC? People bring back the old nations? That's dumb.
>>13974970
what old nations? it's just the three power blocs now
>>13974970
stop biting, IBO clearly takes place in a different timeline
>>13964079
We've already known about this since about episode 4 or 5 jesus christ, pay attention.
>>13966974
>>13966980
00 takes place in the 24th century AD and UC abandons the AD calendar in the 22nd century. So a big fat nope to that.
Nope
>>13964407
so do those weirdos still living in greenland just sorta persist, in IBO, as independents?
>>13964079
Wait, did she just use her own hair as a hair tie near the bottom?
Carta is a beauty. Post more Carta.
>>13975587
Carta is death next episode, there is no way she can survive the duel
>>13975645
Maybe, but she'll be a beauty even in death.
>>13975645
>No way she'll survive
I'm sorry mate did you miss the past episode where she escaped from Barbatos' death grip unexplained? The writing is awful and the writers seem to have a boner for her, so its doubtful.
>>13975820
But that was because they forgot they needed her to die in the duel. Besides she killed Biscuit, no hope for her now. After she dies the show will move to its final enemy, Eins and Garma.
>>13974083
we have grolar bears
>>13975860
Mid-series boss Garma dies, leaving our rag-tag rebels to be menaced by Darth Ein.
>>13967109
>>13974031
Wait, then wouldn't G be before Turn A for Turn A to be able to derive MLB tech from DG Cells? But Turn A also has cryogenic criminal Corin Nander having flashback of Wing Zero, so Wing should be before Turn A as well for a live human to remember Wing Zero in CC.
>>13965662
Well, to be fair, Asians other than Israelis, Yemenis and North Koreans hate drugs more than anything else.
>>13976005
That's the thing. It's like a logic puzzle without enough clues - there's various requirements of who has to sit next to whom, but not enough to solidly establish an order. And it's mostly based on what few direct references Turn A makes, and what few cross-series nods get included.
There's not really anything to say, for instance, how long Devil was sitting around before someone found it and harnessed it. Consider that G-Reco shows a red Z'gok in a forgotten base in South America, a clear nod to Char's Z'gok and Jaburo. If G-Reco is 500 years after Turn A, and Turn A is after everything else, it could well be that Z'gok sat there untouched through the events of every other series, surviving multiple apocalypses and world governments. If it could do that, then it could easily be that Devil similarly sat in some remote location through various epochs until it was found and exploited.
And consider that there's a museum of 'classic suits' from the Universal Century, along with talk of not repeating the Universal Century's mistakes, at the start of G-Reco. Somehow that data survived with enough specificity to inform them. The most obvious method is the information in Turn-A's Black History. But for the Black History to exist as specifically as it did, someone had to have recorded things in every single era, which means that even if suits didn't make it, information about them did. So the people making Turn A might not have had Devil itself, but a piece of it, a preserved DG Cell or even just the schematics of the cells.
>>13967101
South America is described as the most damaged area, and yet it looks like this.
I had forgotten that they had that planetwide shot in the beginning though, so I guess these two shots contradict each other.
>>13977017
The same episode also has this shot of Europe. Yet, again, just a large crater formation, with no actual landmass change.
>>13967101
>>13977017
>>13977020
What if Devil was already active at this point, and was slowly repairing the damage?
>>13975174
so they go BACK to AD?
>>13977050
Calenders run concurrently. The Mayan calender "ended" because there isnt a Mayan civilization that uses it anymore.
>>13975174
Are you implying that it's impossible for the people of the 24th century to have reverted to the AD calendar after all of UC's colonies were destroyed in AW?
Also UC00 was 21st century, not 22nd, somewhere around 2070's iirc. That would make Victory around the 2220's, leaving ~180 years for AW and IBO to happen before 00.
Which would make 00 between UC330 and UC340.
IBO is "PD" 323 and the world is divided into a small handful of economic blocs much like 00. And 00 started out with projectile weapons before Sell Us Teal Beans came in with beamspam.
It fits.
>>13977067
so, some of the other calenders could be concurrent, too? Not trolling, this just opened whole worlds to me.
>>13977073
>Also UC00 was 21st century, not 22nd, somewhere around 2070's iirc. That would make Victory around the 2220's, leaving ~180 years for AW and IBO to happen before 00. Which would make 00 between UC330 and UC340 .IBO is "PD" 323 and the world is divided into a small handful of economic blocs much like 00. And 00 started out with projectile weapons before Sell Us Teal Beans came in with beamspam.It fits.
So they went from miniaturized WoL bullshit mass-produced-Victories to shitty AW and then forgot absolutely everything to get back to IBO (by the way the Calamity War ended in year 0 PD so I have trouble believing that) which then rolls into 00's AD? Tech progression aside the numbers don't work.
>>13977077
For real life? Yeah.
For Gundam? Why not? It's such a mess of inconsistent physics and technology that it'd be best to make your own personal interpretation of it. I find that kinda of stuff fun really.
IBO being post Gundam X is a nice head canon(an example, I don't care about the autism bout going on above). Asserting it as fact however may seem silly because Gundam is silly and filled with whacky robots and oppressive aristocrats and or space nazi's committing massive atrocities to drive home the point that war is bad.
>>13977077
Yeah, there are multiple calendars in use around the world. The western calendar we're used to is a single-era that counts all the way back to jesus's birth, but wasn't actually implemented until the mid 500's. And it's had a few iterations before settling on the current version (used to be 10 months, used to be a leap week instead of a leap day, shit like that). The japanese calendar has multiple eras, and changed not too long ago from Showa Era to Heisei Era (that actually has nothing to do with karate bugmen, btw). Then there's the chinese calendar where it's currently 4714 (Year Of The Monkey started Feb 9th).
>>13977098
>and then forgot absolutely everything
Did you even watch Victory?
The whole plot was about a FORGET-EVERYTHING machine.
>>13977101
>that actually has nothing to do with karate bugmen, btw
No shit, it's a measurement for Godzilla movies
>>13977108
Which failed. I mean if you want to believe that they just kept building it then okay. So they do that but MS tech is still around, enough for them to have another space war and ruin everything. Then everyone forgets everything again because you start IBO and they're tricked into thinking that the Calamity war happened 300 years ago so they fix the Earth instantly besides Sydney, then they forget everything again (no new types this time, remember) but this time they remember to revert to classic AD calender and really quickly fix the moon that was fucked up and totally abandon Mars. Remember the time in between calendar changes here.
>>13964861
But they had that black girl VA'd by some Austrialian half-breed in Greco. I suppose other brown did spend her time actually retarded for half the show, but she came out alright. Even got two guys following her around.
>>13964079
>Kudelia studied and her "Great leadership and wit" are shown by her thinking of an obvious answer that only seem clever because it used info the audience had no way of knowing
>Somehow they don't think the enemy will check ground transport lines they own
>"You're trying to win an election, shouldn't you have someone lobby for you?"
>"You're so fucking smart!"
And then to top it off she starts talking about how she wants to become hope. This can't be serious.
>Black guy and Cake portrayed as being smart and level headed, despite the kids being correct
They said they'd crush anyone in their path, and we know people will actively try to stop them. Mika was stupid enough to let Carta go despite always being a cold blooded and efficient killing machine, and she's coming back to attack them so obvious they should be killing adversaries. They didn't say they were going to go picking fights or looking for blood, just that they'd crush the enemy before them. Don't feed me this "No, they're wrong and they're just fired up!" shit.
>"How many people do I have to kill?"
>"TAKE ME THERE!"
God that dialog was bad, and not in the cheesy over the top and fun way.
Seriously, this show is fucking horrible. How has Okada not been banned from working in the anime industry along with everyone else who works on this crap? You'd have to be mentally retarded to like this.
>>13977050
They never went back to it. There is no reference to that in UC at all and 00 completely ignores the pre calendar change to begin with.
>>13977073
I'm outright saying that 00 like GBF and Try doesn't fit at all with others in some shared timeline. Same with AG calendar in AGE for that matter.
>>13977426
>Seriously, this show is fucking horrible. How has Okada not been banned from working in the anime industry along with everyone else who works on this crap? You'd have to be mentally retarded to like this.
only the english fanbase has a problem with it, they fucking love it over in japan
>>13977919
>Some loud shiteaters like it so Japan loves it
Check 2ch, you idiot.
>>13977925
they're representative of a certain demographic of fans, 2ch is not representative of a majority of the main market demographic or the japanese fanbase as a whole
the japanese would never assume 4chan to be representative of american tastes as a whole, would they?
>>13977945
>2ch is not representative of a majority of the main market demographic or the japanese fanbase as a whole
Actually that's where all the otaku market goes, idiot.
>>13977952
and otaku is a subset of the overall fanbase
not every fucking anime viewer in japan is an otaku you idiot
>>13977426
Okada is barely writing this. She actually did do the first three episodes which were pretty good in my opinion but otherwise the writing is mostly not hers. I don't know what the source of the series' problems is but she is probably only a small part. My guess is that Bandai wants something slightly different from the original script, Nagai being fucking incompetent as a human, lazy animators/consistently late storyboarding, budget mismanagement, and all the writers (including Okada sometimes) being mediocre or outright bad. I'd love to know what is happening behind the scenes.
>>13977970
>not every fucking anime viewer in japan is an otaku you idiot
Actually plenty of people read manga, but anime is pretty much for the otaku only.
Please stop talking about a country you know nothing of, and have learned about through shitposts on /m/.
>>13977073
In the earliest days, maybe the Eighties and early Nineties, UC 0079 would've been around the 2070s. But by the end of the Nineties, 2045 had been established as the start of space colony construction, with UC 0001 occurring some unspecified time later. So 0079 would have to be in the first half of the 22nd century at earliest. And I don't know if everyone involved is still holding on to that 2045 date.
To anyone who thinks 00's AD can come after the UC, and still be our AD (with the epilogue occurring 348 years after the date of this post), keep in mind that 00 has backstory going back to the 21st century. And if you think that 00's AD is another AD, think about how specific the 300-year-old conflicts in 00 are. Inter-Irish conflicts, the Tamil Tigers still being around (unless that's Gundam Wiki baloney, I can't remember the exact name coming up in the show). All this when we see very little pre-UC ethnic conflict in the UC. (See the Taureg fighters.) Not to mention if 00 gives us a map of Australia.
X, SEED, AGE, and IBO all play around with a unified timeline—not even unifying all timelines, X only references the UC, IBO has only referenced the UC and the FC based on what we've seen in this thread—but it's only playing around. Each calendar is primarily meant to exist as its own continuity, while the Black History acts as a secondary alternative, simultaneously separate from each individual timeline, and encompassing them all.
>>13967101
>Even Tomino called for the fans to make a single timeline for all of Gundam
I'm not sure he was talking about a timeline for all series. Maybe he was just talking about a UC-CC-RC timeline. As if he forgot about or decided to ignore his own Dark History's implications.
Also, I can believe the theory that he was trying to make some statement and didn't actually think of G-Reco as 500 years after Turn A. Insulting people who care too much about timelines, or something about creative ownership.
>>13977980
ha and you expect me to take your posts at face value as if you know any better?
there's all kinds of anime aimed at demographics of all ages and different genders, and you're loosely and vaguely trying to attribute it all to "only otaku watch anime"
I can see diehard otaku being the vocal comment posters on 2ch, but you're a bit silly by saying blanket statements like "only otaku watch anime" and telling me to search a giant always-active japanese forum for proof of your own claims
>>13977975
>I'd love to know what is happening behind the scenes.
IBO in general reeks of being a half-assed job riding on the franchise name of Gundam. If anything behind the scenes, they're just filling in any guidelines behind any buzzwords or "themes" that Bandai leadership wanted pushed, getting paid, and going home.
>>13977998
>ha and you expect me to take your posts at face value as if you know any better?
先週日本にいたけど。。。
まぁ、好きにすればいい、バカ君。
>>13977997
The IRA thing is mentioned in one episode as far as the news saying that 'in light of Celestial Being, IRA makes piece'. The Tamil Tigers was that sprawling Tieren-on-Tieren match.
But anon, both conflicts are ended now. IRA had made piece before 00 even aired, Tamil Tigers were defeated after. And if they aren't directly after how is Degwin talking about Hitler?
official unified timeline when sunrise?
>>13978037
https://youtu.be/A56e8klQnZg?t=15m36s
Tieren on Anf, but close.
>>13978055
Never because Bandai and Tomino will never agree on G-Reco being after Turn A.
>>13978055
How can 00 take place before 0079 when Exia's technology is completely insane?
>>13978135
The entire timeline you're replying to is a fan joke. 00 is only where it is is because that OUR period, AD, happens sometime before UC starts, not 00 as a setting/series itself.
That mix up is also why I dislike 00's use of AD for it's "gundam era."
>>13978055
>00 takes place before UC
Nice fanon m8
>>13978151
It uses AD because it parallel's OUR WORLD because its based around the post 9/11 setting. Which is fine.
>>13978151
>>13978164
It makes more sense if you consider the Turn X manual:
> In real life, history is filled with numerous different perceptions and interpretations, and there are countless cases of fabrications gaining momentum and being treated as fact. In the end, it may be that people only believe what they want to believe.
00 could in fact be a dramatization of our AD. It'd explain how the end of those conflicts changed.
Of course that could also be used to explain the Australia discrepancy, but that'd be kind of a cop-out.
>>13978192
>00 could in fact be a dramatization of our AD
Like how SDF Macross is what actually happened, but Do You Remember Love? is a dramatization of it both in the show's meta and in real life?
>>13978213
It'd also provide an explanation of why the whole rest of the timeline didn't keep getting visited by aliens.
>>13967144
>Tomino hasn't even fully watched G Gundam nor does he like it,
It's his favourite AU and he WORKED ON IT uncredited you fucking retarded.
>>13964079
>Sydney
>not Melbourne
They could've at least struck the right target.
>>13978558
>Muh harbour bridge, opera house and other internationally recognisable landmarks
What did you think would happen?
>>13978213
Both DYRL and the TV version are dramatizations, with the further caveat that the DYRL we can watch is different from the DYRL that exists in universe. Kawamori really doesn't want to be tied down to a particular canon.
>>13978037
>and if they aren't directly after how is Degwin talking about Hitler?
I don't believe I was arguing for anything other than both the UC and 00's AD following our own era without anything in between.
What's weird is Hitler being a distant memory in the later 21st/early 22nd century, while the IRA and the Tamil Tigers are still active in in the 24th century. Again, not implying they're in the same timeline, it's just weird that two Gundam series have such radically different approaches to geopolitical change over the next few centuries. What small insurgencies are today still engaged in the same conflicts they began three-hundred years ago?
>>13978135
>>13978164
I agree that 00-before-UC looks ridiculous, but I'm surprised you pointed that out before the fact that Mineva Lao Zabi establishes the Gundam Fight. I was worried it was serious until that part.
>>13978575
Oh it's happening at night?
Sydney's Lock-out laws ensures nobody is in town, or dies, during the colony drop.
>>13978836
Source on UC being 21st/early 22nd century?
>>13978192
Season 1 00 had Australia and New Zealand completely missing in a background world map and Australia reappear in another background world map. Kinda farfetched to dramatise history into ALIEN WAR.
Carta is completely doomed, isn't she?
OK, Sidney, yada yada. But wasn't there another colony drop in ZZ?
>>13964760
>>13964763
>S2
>Carta comes across Eugene and starts licking her lips when she sees that lush blond hair and tight ass
>she decides to drug and kidnap him
>Eugene wakes up with a ballgag in his mouth and Fareed's uniform on
Do it, Okada! I know you want to.
>>13983902
She'll be busy doing another show though.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=17706
>>13978575
Just saiyan
Should've been Melbourne instead
>>13983294
Either her, Gali or both are biting the dust, almost sure of it, there are flashbacks in the next episode those are death flags in IBO
>>13978836
>Implying Provos would ever stop being a nuisance.
>>13983918
This image of them introducing themselves to McGillis as children says nothing to me but they're being set up as his patsies and they will die this weekend regretting ever having met him.
>>13966963
m8 I just used Google Images pls no bully
>>13967101
>Even Tomino called for the fans to make a single timeline for all of Gundam (when he announced that Reco was after Turn A)
No that's completly wrong. You delusional autistic fucks always pull this misinformation out of your asses. What did say was that half way through production he decided that -to him- it's after Turn A. He also said it's up to each individual fan to decide for themselves what they believe, and they if he had a say in it he would preferably put G-Reco out of Turn-A.
Also, if you think the MG Turn X manual is some sort of official canon statement that affects the whole franchise, then you are a retard.
>>13985068
Sounds like you never saw the original source of the statement then.
>>13985122
I literally paraphrased how Tomino said it and in the same order as he said it. You're the delusional faggot whose deluding yourself for worthless headcanon.
>>13982379
I'm too lazy to get some solid sources, but I've heard about a Professor Minovsky manga (Stampede) establishing the first manned lunar landing as Year One of the UC. That's probably not what they originally had in mind, but perhaps it goes to show the "zeitgeist" of the Gundam community in the early days.
For the 2045 date, look at the "Mission to the Rise" short. Again, that's non-canon, but it goes to show the general understanding, and I bet that 2045 date comes up in more official material. If it didn't take too long to construct the first space colonies—say, eight years—that sets UC 0079 in 2131.
I've also read that there are images in First Gundam or Zeta that have "2079" and "2087" on them. I've never actually seen pics of these images myself, though.
Here's the website where I got most of this information. Just a fansite, but it seems pretty legit:
http://www.dyarstraights.com/gundam-test/universal-century-total-confusion/
