MAKE TEKKADAN GREAT AGAIN!
>>13963705
Tekkadan was never even decent to begin with.
>>13963705
Too soon, too real OP
BISCUIT WAS 16
HE LOVED TO READ
>>13963726
>read
more like eat, amirite?
Also, would the Teiwaz brotherhood thing where the Kimono doesn't fit Biscuit (ie. he doesn't belong) qualify as a death flag?
>>13963726
Hey look its Ryujin, hi Ryujin!
>>13963705
To late Biscuit, they have a dead wish now
>>13963789
>Holy shit I made a mistake with this kid
>>13963789
why is mika so edgy?
>>13963789
I wonder just how fucking much Orga is regretting staying together with that psychopath
>>13963829
Is not hard to feel sad for Orga, in the begging everyone was like Orga is using Mika, turn out Orga is just Mika hostage in his mad quest
Orga is pure.
>>13963705
>character dies
>it starts raining
Shit writing
>>13963705
Fuck Biscuit
>>13963789
>HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER
>HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER
>>13963789
An autist to surpass Heero Yui!
>>13963705
>again
>>13963870
For now.
>>13963705
Biscuit was built. Strength>aesthetics. Truly best boy.
>>13963726
okay, who got the pasta?
>>13963789
I like that they're not pulling punches. This is how I feel talking to the guys I work with, as a civilian on a military base. They're terrifying but necessary, as long as people like them remain in the world, pointing their guns at us.
>>13963975
>Biscuit was Truly best boy.
Best Bibendum. And nothing of value is lost.
>>13963789
>>13963990
>This is how I feel talking to the guys I work with, as a civilian on a military base
I know this feeling. Had a number of ex-military friends of the years and they hide their trauma pretty well most of the time, but sooner or later the crazy starts to show through the cracks.
>>13964014
>>13963789
both of these are horribly cringe worthy
>>13964044
So was your post desu
>>13963789
House of Cards ending was so much better at showing an evil couple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mnAojRn-Iw
So how the fuck did Carta escape?
>>13964100
Boys from her harem carried her away.
>>13964100
I was yelling that at my screen too.
what bulshit.
mika had her fucking pinned last episode and then she is magically being carried off by two more (I thought they all died last episode) of her fucking fuccboiis
what a bullshit way to keep her around.
I really like IBO despite it's constant and obvious failings but this episode was especially bad.
>>13963789
MIKA YOU GLORIOUS SOCIOPATH
Sure, it'll make the psychologists cringe but that should keep Orga upright and fighting for the forseeable future.
>>13964100
That's why you go for the cockpit instead of the head, Mika. She got away by ripping the head off of her MS, and then escaping with her fuccboi squadron.
>>13964100
>>13964121
they tell you in the beginning of the episode
They carried her off while Mika was distracted watching Orga crawl toward Biscuit.
It's bullshit that Mika didn't notice, but it is explained.
>>13964121
>I thought they all died last episode
Nope. Two of her subordinates were pinning Mika until he purged the Barbatos' shoulder armor.... righter after Carta escaped by purging her Graze's wrist armor.
I really am liking the armor purges in this show.
>>13964140
>they were pinning mika
OH FUCK I forgot that was happening.
ok it seems like less bullshit now but like >>13964139
says, I cant believe that mika would just not notice.
armor purges are really cool tho, even thought the story story sucks I really like the suits and their abilities in IBO
>>13963705
Now, that was unexpected.
>>13964140
>were pinning Mika
didn't they do the last episode and he literally just moved to throw them off?
Plus if they were why not just end him?
>>13964160
The only problem is that enemy pilots are always surprised that the other dude purged. Like, you've done purges, why can you not consider that the other guy does it too? And why do purges have such massive explosive force behind them?
>>13964100
I'm guessing that between evacuating the island and Biscuit dying they didn't double tap the fallen.
So Carta's subordinates dropped everything and dragged her neigh-comatose ass out of there while Tekkadan ran for the boats.
>>13964171
shitty writing. but I do like the splosions
>>13964140
>Armor purges
Agreed, it's an underused trope.
>>13964166
The two grunts pierced Mika's shoulders, so he purged the armor to get free and swung to get them away.
>>13964140
>righter after Carta escaped by purging her Graze's wrist armor.
he had her by the head though, which was firmly clamped in and we never seen frames purge
>>13964196
So just swing, it's not like their little swords ever course him much damage
>>13964171
Thinking about it logistically, you've got maybe a dozen armor sections all wired with explosives. Purging on the fly would be difficult simply because it's tricky to keep track of all the parts.
Tactically, you're making yourself more vulnerable in the long term to give yourself an out in the short term. Strategically, it's generally a bad move so most pilots would make assumptions and reject it out of hand.
>Mika walks in and starts talking like a psychopath
>Orga looks like he's about to break and tell Mika to fuck off for being too crazy
>turns into an inspirational moment
what the fuck
>>13964216
he did break anon.
he did break.
Mika put so much psychopathic fear into Orga that he just broke and went along with it out of fear for his life and the lives of everyone within reach of Mika.
>>13964198
You're thinking about the next scene.
>>13964235
But the point where he has he by the head is when she is pinned down and has to escape, so saying she escaped by purging her wrists is wrong
>>13964205
>it's not like their little swords ever course him much damage
Orly? Considering how tough this armor is, that's a pretty deep stab.
>>13964211
Yeah, there's a lot of regions not to purge, but there are also lots of reasons to not remain in a bind and get killed while you're immobile. If you're stuck, and a purge could free you, you'll purge.
>>13964006
>Implying the Michelin man isn't a paragon of masculinity
Biscuit could kick your ass.
>>13964245
No? She has to escape from that bind to kill Biscuit, she purges the armor on her right arm. The two fucbois pin Mika, he purges his shoulders, then he grabs her by the head.
She got pinned twice.
>>13964253
The bit people mean when they say how did she escape is on the second one, because that's the one we never saw. That is the incident
>>13963829
A lot, judging by this expression.
>>13963983
>>13964216
I think he just didn't want to be next.
>>13964259
Not sure how, but you read all of this wrong.
Guy asked where the fucbois who rescued Carta came from, I reminded that there were two left that pinned Mika after Carta broke away from him.That detail was purely for context. Hence why I said >You're thinking about the next scene >>13964235
>>13964247
>Armor purges
True, and only a flawed training program would suggest otherwise.
Considering Gjallarhorn's attitude I could swallow that they teach most pilots not to purge armor and look for alternatives instead.
>>13963715
and that's why it was probably just "make tekkadan great".
>>13963789
>
what the fuck were they trying to evoke from this scene
because it was creepy as fuck
>>13964414
it's definitely the clashing music that makes it weird.
>>13964423
Orga's mind must have gone completely blank at that moment, how the fuck do the yplan to end this? Mika cannot be redeemed because there is nothing but his bloodlust inside of him
>>13964271
So, when will Orga say fuck off to that suicidal maniac? I hope he realised now that Mikazuki is outright psychopathic.
>>13964444
I don't get how he went from shitting his pants to ACTUALLY, THIS IS AWESOME!
who knows, anon.
>>13964444
I'm waiting for him to try to shoot him in the back when they go to the final battle and fail miserably and die a undignified death
>>13964444
Didn't Orga say outright that Mika terrifies him and that he makes these outrageous plans just to keep Mika in line?
>>13964414
That they're going to create a place for themselves no matter what they have to do.
>>13964450
I wonder if this smile is"The Final Lie".
>Next episode is called "The Last Lie"
>It's actually referring to Orga making an empty promise to Mika
>There is no promised land to take him to
>Orga has to keep up his bullshit or else Mika will murder him
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/U5fG3Sr.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
Ending confirmed.
>>13963818
Because he had killed people at very young age?
>>13963950
>For now.
Time is running out though. If he doesn't bone Merribit in the next couple of episodes it's game over.
>>13964496
I don't know. I have a sinking feeling Mika's going to be the one to kill Orga instead after he learns about the lie.
Season 2 may well have people deal with the fallout of an unrestrained and completely batshit Mika
>>13964523
I rather like that. A bat shit insane MC in gundam. Mike can't stop...he just a soldier
>>13964509
He'll do it in s2 which will either be infinite times better due to the executive meddling in or even worse due to the executive meddling
>>13964523
What lie?
>>13964643
There is no place. There never was a place. Mika's been lied to the whole time. Orga has tricked him the entire time to keep him in check.
>>13964649
That wasn't a lie, he was never promising a specific place he just said they could get one which is a real proposition
>>13964441
A while back I had a hunch that Kudelia was going to get increasingly more extreme with her beliefs to the point that it splits Tekkadan between people who want to revolt openly and the ones loyal to Orga, with Mika straying from him and becoming her personal attack dog. Of course, that would have required the plot to actually go somewhere.
desu, I'm not so secretly holding out hope that Mika turns out to be a legitimate psychopath. Like, its canonically stated.
I mean, he has all the signs. All they need to do is make it official.
Will it fix the series? No, but it'd be damn amusing.
>>13964674
Do you really think Mika is gonna buy that? What even is gonna be the plan after all this is said and done, go back to Mars? Mika might have said he just wanted to learn about farming after all this, but I doubt he wants to stick with something that tame now, especially with all that he's seen on his adventures. I could see the whole "enjoying killing" thing coming back from his fight with Kudal, because it looks like now he's turning into an adrenaline junkie. It might even go so far as >>13964700 said, where Kudelia and Orga fall out over the whole "revolution" thing, and Mika takes Kudelia's side because she can keep showing him "new and exciting" things when Orga and Tekkaden can't.
>>13964227
officially the canon I'm going with.
>>13964733
>Do you really think Mika is gonna buy that?
Buy exactly what he was told before? Yes. Orga didn't promise an exact place, just that he would be able to get a farm which if they get money from jobs is an easy obvious trade
>What even is gonna be the plan after all this is said and done, go back to Mars?
Do more jobs or if he has enough get a farm, you are really throwing things out of proportions. Mika hasn't been beating people screaming when will I get my farm. In fact 99% of the time he is normal and the only crazy times he has had is when it looked like cookie and cracker died (very understandable) and here when he tried to show support by saying lets kill people (which isn't even going against exactly what they have been doing). Mika outside that has normal interactions with people, he doesn't even struggle understanding emotions. Being okay with killing doesn't make him crazy, he just adjusted to his situation and can differentiate when he needs to act like that. If anything he has calmed down because he was so impressed with Kudelia's speech.
You are seriously blowing things out of proportion to make it seem like insane stuff is going down.
>>13964773
anon
We all know how it's probably going to end in that mundane way.
It's just that we're holding out for the "insane stuff" out of a desperate hope, because psychopath Mika is now this series' last chance at any shred of decency.
We know it's an unrealistic hope, but thats what humans do.
>>13964785
It wouldn't be decency though, it would be a mostly dull slog with a few dumb moments and a lot of badly animated one that had a silly end/lead into second season no one watches
>>13964800
I never said it would be great, just the best shot left.
>>13964773
Did we not watch the same episode? Did you not see Mika grab Orga by the collar and make the crazy eyes at him, unnerving music and all, asking him when we're getting to "that place"? Even if Orga tried to explain that he didn't mean an exact place, if Mika ain't happy, shit ain't gonna end well. Also why would Mika go back to his old life, now that he's had a taste of the adrenaline that comes with this kind of life? He had his hopes set on a farm because that was the scope of his worldview at the time: either being a poor orphan or doing what Biscuit's grandma did (or whatever CGS had him doing on jobs but idk what exactly that was). But now he's seen so much shit on his adventures that he wants more, he wants to keep going to "that place". And yeah i'm probably just writing all this headcanon because of >>13964785, but it'd be nice if it happened, ya know?
>>13964496
anon, you realize 1 in 100 anon's might get that reference?
you are awesome
God this is so fucking weird for me.
They're doing the whole Jaburo plot, having to get to the place to fulfill their goal...and it's fucking Edmonton.
Yay Gundam's coming to where I live!
So goddamn weird...
>>13963885
>rain
More like thunderbolts.
>>13964294
>>13964995
Are you 10 years old or something?
>>13964100
The nature of the show demands that McGillis be the one to kill her.
>>13964649
>There never was a place.
Orga plainly admitted that he didn't know where "that place" was when they were kids.
The ep22 scene was Mika reminding Orga that they had a goal they hadn't reached yet, that his faith in Orga was unshaken even if Orga was questioning his own decisions, and that he and everyone else were still relying on Orga to be strong.
I can see how someone would take it as psycho Mika scaring Orga, but I don't think that's the way it was intended. That was just Mika's way of saying "You're better than this. You're cooler than this. You're the leader, ACT LIKE IT."
>>13964100
It's offscreen, I don't gotta explain shit.
>>13965076
Even if he meant it in a positive and constructive way, Mika still has that issue of being very emotionally dulled and sociopathically inclined. He just doesn't know how to communicate with people outside of force or the impressions of, which ties into his whole respect for Kudelia and her ability to achieve things with words rather than power.
That is to say, anyone else would've been more emotional about it, but Mika's idea of shaking someone out of a rut is to straight up terrify them back into the old swing of things, because he just doesn't know any other way to do it.
>>13964456
Yeah, it could be a bad translation but he did say Mika was "incredible"
>>13965049
It's just weird.
Have you ever watched a show about giant space-faring robots and then had the characters start talking about visiting the city where you live? Canada as a whole tends to just get kind of ignored in most media, and if anything from it is ever shown, it's usually just Toronto or Ottawa.
Sure it seems like most if not all political boundaries have been reorganized after the Calamity War in IBO, but still. City still has the same name, and it's surreal to hear the characters say it.
>kudelia is amazing
kudelia is amazing
>>13965248
but is shea meijin?
>>13964496
There's no other way.
This way Mika can have his rabbit farm.
>>13965277
What would Martian Rabbits even be like?
Would they be as addictive as the palms?
>>13965282
They're probably fucking huge and sit on everyone..
Filename
>>13965035
What the shit, I just checked that artist's twitter and the omake chapter that just came out was marked as sensitive material and two tweets down has a retweeted doujin picture of girl showing and spreading her asshole.
Out of interest, when Kudelia's talking to Santa Claus and there's the map of the world behind them, Sydney just happens to be a 500km wide crater. As in, y'know, Operation British. I wonder if it's an easter egg or an actual tie-in to UC. It's a pretty specific thing to do, in either case.
>>13965296
>>13965296
Probably an easter egg.
As QUALITY as the show is, I find IBO to have an absolute fetish for these small details you only get to notice when you pause the show for a frame. Most recent episode has, of all things, a detailed nutrition facts label for a drink can.
>>13965296
That shit's been confirmed from episode one. Where you've been, nigga? 'sides, due to Turn-A pretty much every Gundam series takes part in the same timeline, with a few exceptions like Build Fighters and 00.
>>13965323
When does G Gundam take place
You know, I keep thinking Kudelia becoming a greater revolutionary figure, Biscuit dying, Teiwaz moving to more directly support Tekkadan, Carta antagonizing them, etc. etc. etc. would have made this a good show if IBO hadn't wasted the previous 15 episodes doing fuck all.
>>13965296
What if the calamity war was the entirety of early UC, late UC and some more after that? Something like 200-300 years plus of war before we even get into frame suits. Could explain the crater if it's not an easter egg or just Sidney being the colony target of gundam.
>>13965334It doesn't matter.
Though it might be distant prequel to IBO, since they did mention that before the Calamity War, conflicts were resolved by duels.
Cookie & Cracker join Turbines to fight in MS to avenge their oniichans
>>13964414
They're showing that child-soldiers are broken.
you should have already been prepared for it after Mika executed the adults on Mars.
>>13965334
Between 00 and Wing
We've had threads about this before. IBO having the Sydney crater but not the others from X means it's between UC and X
>>13965348
That's not what chocolate man has planned for them though.
>>13963705
I want all the orphans to die.
>>13965408
Go to bed Ein.
>>13965412
I hope Ein dies too.
>>13965412
None can stop the train now
>Orga's ability to keep lying about knowing what the fuck he's doing is starting to wear thin
>lunatic woman is the only one who can control the lunatic gundam
She's still surprisingly naive, though. I sort of assumed he'd tell her of COURSE he'd win the election because he'll be committing mass voter fraud.
>>13965417
I hope almost everyone dies. The last episode is grown up Atra surviving as a mercenary on a war torn Earth.
S2 isa G-Gundam like show with Atra representing Mars in her own Gundam.
Orga is so absolutely scared of Mika, its fucking hilarious.
>>13965440
>everyone dies
>second coming of the Shrike Team
I don't think the board would be prepared for that.
>>13965739
>anyone giving a shit about these characters
I would only be bothered by how awful the show ended up to have to reduce itself to that.
![[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 22 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.17.21_[2016.03.06_21.44.30].png](https://i.imgur.com/FgwJ5X2.png "[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 22 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.17.21_[2016.03.06_21.44.30].png")
Seriously is this how far we're gonna get to the Turbines' backstory?
>>13963983
>Biscuit died
>Ein is still alive
>>13965765
That's a fair view to have.
>>13965828
Ein doesn't need to cockblock forever.
>>13965803
At least they didn't infodump more of it.
>>13965440
>a Shuffle Alliance formed of other planets' Gundams
>their attacks/weapons based on the Roman gods the planets are named for
>>13965440
Honestly senpai you're on to something.
>Mika loses his shit when he learns Kudelia isn't, in fact, sugoi
>Kills her along with rest of Tekkadan
>Atra bears his children
>Both become hardened merc Gundam pilots
>Their children become pilots as well having to take over when the chocolate man comes back with a vengeance
Only way a season 2 could be salvageable.
>>13966364
>just the tip.gif
>>13964995
I know how you feel. I feel like I'm going to be let down and it's not going to look anything like it, just like what they did with Toronto in Macross.
>>13964773
that reminds me. why did mika flip his shit over cookie and cracker but not biscuit?
>>13966944
Because they need Carta around to meet Char one last time. He'll betray her in some way to drive home to the viewers how fucked up he is. Gali will start to doubt and question him afterwards eventually leading to his death.
>>13963705
MAKE TEKKADANFLAVOREDBISCUITS
>>13965245
I know what you mean. I completely lost my shit on second akito ova.
>>13963705
Orga should be required to go topless all the time for the next ten years.
>>13967108
Speaking of which, they're in Canada, and judging from the preview, it's full of snow. I wonder if Orga will continue to be a shirtless.
>>13964468
I would love that.
>>13963726
I thought he loved to eat.
>>13966457
They probably realized they were too irrelevant for that.
>Mika's dad
>>13967166
Mika is actually Harrison?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVjJRgpuoKU
>>13966779
Can't wait for the 31st of March.
best part of the episode was learning that she was still alive
>>13967525
Only to die next week though.
>>13967529
Hope she at least looks cool while doing so
>>13967590
With such rad cape, she couldn't not to.
Can somebody post those episode summaries for the upcoming episodes?
>>13963705
I hope Ein dies and Mika and Orga plus Kudelia.
I want Atra and Chocolate man to be the protagonist and final boss respectively.
>>13967631
I could be wrong but I think they haven't release them yet, maybe latter this week
>>13967610
>cape
It's her duel flag. Just like Crank had.
>>13964468
More likely refers to McGillis with Gaelio.
He's done nothing but led him down the prim rose path of vain-glory from the start.
Garma Bro gonna die in the next episode, surely.
>>13965343
G Gundam is the only thing that matters
>>13964496
>Orga, tell me about the goal
>>13964467
Maybe he said this to Mika to get the psycho off his ass and is planning to bail due to his last chat with Biscuit.
>>13967525
I want her to be the ineffectual disgraced villain for a while more.
>>13967525
Why aren't we getting more art of her? Did artists gave up on IBO?
>>13964977
You do realize that's like required reading for a lot of middle school/high school. So more people will get it.
>>13967525
Maybe she's gonna be one of those Gundam villains that get away with killing a named character
So wait, what else happened this episode beside Charta getting away and Kudelia giving a talk?
![[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 22 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.55_[2016.03.08_00.41.37].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OUf9fxr.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 22 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.55_[2016.03.08_00.41.37].jpg")
>drinking soda
>>13967525
Biscuit dying came out of no where. I really expected Guts or the pink MS pilot guy or one of the turbins girls to die. Guess I wasn't paying attention to his flags.
Why the fuck didn't Mika go off on the bitch anyway? That surprised me.
>>13970545
I'd like to say Mika and Orga's near-fight but that de-escalated to normalcy in a second. I was really excited because I thought the staff remembered Mika is a killer that needs direction and Orga should rightly be afraid of him but it's too little too late. If it's brought up again at all then I'll be surprised.
Orga rallies everyone for revenge against Gjallerhorn but that's pretty obvious. Same goes for crying over Biscuit, nothing really came of it, plot or characterization-wise, that really mattered. I mean it's still important to show it but when it takes up half an episode and then will only be remembered through "This is for Biscuit!" moments then it's shit.
And in the last 5 seconds it shows them carrying out most of Kudelia's plan perfectly.
>>13970545
Blondie McNotChar (whose name I can't remember) convinced Gaellio that he and Ein should become cyborg killing machines. Also we were shown that Arbrau's politics are being manipulated by blonde guy's dad.
>>13968703
CARTA ISSUE!
Alright hear me out.
A lot of time is simply wasted throughout the show, so I think a lot of the character changes can be done without hurting run time, it's just a matter of not having shitty ideas in the first place. Make Mika have more hints of his psychopathic tendencies (like Cookie and Cracker's scene) without going overboard and edgy about it all the time and without being 100% autism like the Kudelia kiss. Orga has to come really close to or outright fuck up once early on and the group as a whole has to rely less on Turbines to plot hax their way into anything, giving good reason for all his lectures and Biscuit's worries. Make Orga and Mika's relationship a little more important, because it has been absolutely static up until this episode. I wouldn't even mind if Kudelia or Atra tries to pursue a romance with Mika harder but sitting on the sidelines waifuing all day is annoying. Hell, put a little more focus on contrasting Atra's innocence (wristband) with Mika's bloodlust in the name of a good cause like he did back when he shot Crank. He doesn't have to be psychopathic until the end but it was brought up only once between Mars and now, make the progression smoother.
Fights in general are shitty but I'm not going to write about it. Seeing Barbatos changing armor every battle would be nice instead of Turbines' magic repair, more off-the-wall tactics (no, Orga's retarded ship plans don't count) and improv to make it feel like they really aren't a military group at all, just a rag-tag bunch of kids. Mika is too strong so he's never cornered enough to have to resort to traps and tricks. He just bashes away.
1. Mars arc
Honestly not that bad, wouldn't change much. Give us some more time on how shitty life is and how it directly relates to the antagonists. As-is it kind of feels empty because we only understood it through exposition.
2. Turbines arc/Space arc #1
Entering dangerous waters. Memory is kind of hazy so I don't remember exactly how everything went. Kudelia could have a stronger role as a mother to Tekkadan kids and teaching them to read more instead of spending tons of time with Atra doing menial chores. For the Turbines themselves, I don't give a shit about the haremship but Tekkadan can't rely so heavily on them. Have blondie and her friend transfer to Tekka or something, but Anikicruiser is kind of superfluous and is only there to push the FAMILY theme. Do that shit in your own ship, you don't need to focus on his retarded harem (which was actually a women's shelter the whole time kek got 'em) to find family themes in a group that has been together for years. Pure character glut and wasted time that could have been used on fleshing out Tekkadan, or as the viewers know it, Orga & Mika's Wild Ride ft. Kudelia. Meanwhile, more info on Choco. Not exposition, but actual political shit. We all love a good JUST AS KEIKAKU but there needs to be either a much stronger build up to it or have the plan known and let us watch his progress and build tension that way. Garmaleo can act as Mika's rival during this time and not job every chance he gets, so they cover original Char's bases together. Eins can help out and job once or twice before his sacrifice, making an emphasis on how he needs to kill them NO MATTER WHAT.
3. Brewers arc/Space arc #2
Brewers arc existed only to give them a Gundam, so cut it. Use the time to show a little more Mars poverty in person and have more skirmishes between Gjallerhorn and Tekkadan. If a side plot needs to divert quickly to "something something human debris" for an episode and a half then so be it, but let Kudelia try to help. Guts doesn't find/doesn't have a bro but comes to terms with the human debris shit by other means, maybe by having to talk to some kids they picked up in their detour. Again, focus internally on family themes instead of outsourcing to long-lost brothers. Make it seem like they're really trying hard to evade Gjallerhorn and Turbines are helping stop them up from behind the scenes, giving them a little while to be free from them. As far as I remember this arc was 80% wasted time so you can probably cut a full episode and still include everything I said above, arriving at the Dort arc a little quicker. Fumitan could use a little bit of development here so it isn't all packed into her last 4 minutes alive.
4. Dort arc/Space arc #3
Something has to be changed. McMurdo basically set them up with all that shit and then folded on the censorship. Either Choco's politics have to be taking some serious focus during this part (which by now have escalated into his manipulations and dealings vs his father's, which is revealed much earlier, obviously with Choco still doing it secretly) in order to justify this stuff or totally change it. If you have to change it, then here's my shot: McMurdo, still allied with Mr. Farid and pink-haired old lady, is setting up Tekkadan for failure WITH THE HELP OF FUMITAN, who was in charge of dealing with that cargo. The plan is for the workers to revolt, get put down, etc with the end goal being an increase in Gjallerhorn's power, which will allow further exploitation of the colonies for the benefit of Earth, which helps corporations like Teiwaz to thrive. Turbines are put on another assignment temporarily while Tekkadan makes their stop, which puts them too far away to help. The two haremsluts stay because Lafter wants to help Guts or some shit. So they drop shit off at the colony, warehouse scene happens, and so on. The guys are shown to be total wage slaves, they're running 10-12 hour work days for peanuts. Kudelia decides that she wants to take control of the situation instead of going shopping.
1/2
Atra can be kidnapped with Biscuit if that subplot still exists (no Biscuitbro or "I'm Kudelia!" though, just spotting Tekkadan uniform and related kids), Mika can be kicking ass and Biscuit can show his muscles. Anyway, Kudelia decides that she wants to be revolution. Because she's still a newbie to real politics, she only manages to get demonstrators (who all recognize her) more excited by her presence. She asks for peaceful demonstration but is largely ignored as the weapons are being passed out. Tekkadan can't deploy mobile suits to prevent anything or risk looking like they're trying to start a war inside the colony. Fumitan decides to pussy out of whatever they were holding over her head and tells them to fuck off or she would reveal everything. She is shot where she stands. However, Kudelia finds out about it and rushes from her post as the last barrier between Gjallerhorn HQ and demonstrators. She listens to Fumitan's last words, which involve secret sneaky shit by McSpurdo & Co. while the massacre takes place. Now with heavy guilt but perfect ammo to take on Gjallerhorn, she gets the Tekkaband together and they fight their way into a broadcasting station. Gjallerhorn surrounds the colony just as they find a good camera set-up.
2/?
Chocoman arrives and mediates, offering to save face for Gjallerhorn, getting Tekkadan temporarily out of jail free, and capturing McMurdo in a political pokeball all at once. McMurdo likes the cut of his jib and decides that Choco has some pretty cool ideas after all. The colony workers will begin on the path to fair treatment and Gjallerhorn will lessen pressure on the area. Hostilities die down fairly quickly and Kudelia is remembered as being there to negotiate but never outright defies Gjallerhorn on public TV. Tekkadan's, as well as McMurdo's involvement is all "forgotten".
STATUS:
Kudelia - Not useless; actually tried to be a maiden of peaceful revolution and played some hardball with Choco. Now she understands you have to be willing to shed a little blood to get her job done, even if you don't like it.
Mika - Violated; he isn't the star here but he made some good battles on foot and in Barbatos. At this point he can be seen actively trying to stay level-headed instead of going apeshit.
Orga - Tied; Tekkadan can only move once Atra and Biscuit are no longer hostages, they only arrive back with Mika when it's time to go. Somewhat justified because they could only exfil hostages when Gjallerhorn was in confusion. Tekkadan and the Turbines cannot really exist for the first half of this arc.
Choco - Unmasked; there was really no reason for the fucking mask besides checking a Char box. This time he's here as an intermediary between Gjallerhorn and the revolutionaries.
5. Earth arc
Wore myself out writing that last bit, but the main points to fix would be:
Fuck Carta, she's a bad character. Political side of her story is fine but she's an annoying human. If you really want to make me like her then make her battles not so shitty at the very least. Choco can have her blame the misfortune of her birth by asking a favor of her behind his father's back, which results in her being fanatical about her mission, which gets her killed, which is a solid hit to his father's plans.
Mika and Orga's friction reach a boiling point for real. Shit goes down, Mika might be struggling to fight his instincts and training by Orga against his willpower and love for his family and what Kudelia (and possibly Atra, I don't care which waifu wins) has shown him. But make no mistake, he hits a glitch here and he doesn't know whether to murder someone or talk it out. I don't really know where the PTSD/autism thing will end up, I just know I don't want this little fight to be the last we hear of it.
Biscuit's death should have a little more to it. Not build up, but he needs to feel like he was a useful character that they all lost and whose lack of presence will really change the way things run. Or something.
Shit that fixed itself if you follow my Dort arc fanfiction:
Kudelia's political know-how doesn't come out of nowhere. After her deal on Dort she really dives into it and is shown on screen that she is finding out everything she can about Earth details, not just broad politics. Otherwise she goes from Maiden of Revolution to Alaskan Expert in no time at all.
We know what's going on with Choco. Garma and Eins can stay the same even if their characters are pretty boring but now with Choco we have had a ton of political fun instead of a vague idea of a plan going on behind the scenes.
#1 problem is wasted time. By condensing some shit you could make room for way more solid characterization with a smaller cast and better political shit going on with Choco and those guys. Battles are basically a lost cause because I can't make the animators animate better. Choreography isn't a writer's job.
Alright, tell me what you think. I wrote this pretty quickly and very late but I think it's more solid (or at least more eventful) than the plot we got. Some straight relies on "character X isn't fucking boring" or "the show is written well here instead of badly" but I did the best I could for now and I'm not going to rewrite scene by scene. I didn't fix everything. Gibe feedback please though, I like to hear it even if what I write is utter shit.
At the start everyone thought bastard Orga was manipulating innocent Mika
Turns out bastard Mika is manipulating innocent Orga.
Pottery.
>>13971377
Nah, Orga's always been the one manipulating Mika, it's just Mika's starting to see through Orga's bullshit
>>13971369
I like it anon, and this is coming from someone who is enjoying the show so far.
1. Mars arc
Maybe to show how bad shit is, they could show the audience direct parallels between how life is on the CGS base vs. the Gjallahorn base, since i'm pretty sure it's implied Gjallahorn had a ground base on Mars (i'm not entirely sure though)
2. Turbines arc
This I liked because it showed the audience what happened when Mika & Akihiro actually went against skilled, seasoned pilots vs. the greenhorns/desk jockeys (Major Coral) that grossly underestimated Tekkaden. Granted, Mika Gundam wasn't fully repaired, but I really wish we'd see more even fights, where the skills of the pilots are actually put to the test. Watching Akihiro hold his own against 2 experienced MS pilots was so great, something about the jobber mech that holds its own really sits well with me for some reason (personally, Graze Kai > Ryusei Go). I liked the Turbines because it served to push the family theme further, and Orga being the "younger brother" to Naze contrasts really well with Orga's role as the "older brother" of Tekkaden. I do agree that Kudelia's role as teacher should have been reinforced more.
3. Brewers arc
Keep the pirates, dump the brother. Again, make it an actual fight and not an orphan slaughter funfest. You mentioned you wanted more skirmishes between Gjallahorn and Tekkaden, well the Brewers is it. It was established that this far out, Gjallahorn's military presence is greatly diminished, so hiring out the pirates to do the deed for them makes sense. If the show needed Akihiro to get over the whole Human Debris thing, it should've been him giving the speech to the captured kids, after being disgusted with how they carry themselves or talk about how they had no interest in joining Tekkaden and would rather die or whatever. Orga's speech was good, not gonna lie, but he could've said something similar to Akihiro before the fight and I think it would've had the same effect.
>>13972162
4. Dort
Oh boy did this need a complete overhaul. I wholeheartedly agree with the shopping thing, make Atra, Biscuit and Mika go without Kudelia, as she stays behind with Orga so she can see firsthand the unfair working conditions and horrible living accommodations of the workers. If they wanted to keep the whole "nobody knows what Kudelia looks like" shtick, then actually have a script that supports that. Have a dock worker who has a picture of Kudelia/a video clip of her at the Noachis July whatever Assembly and have another worker be like "Dude, how'd you get that past the censors? You know what Gjallahorn would do to you if they found that right?". Bureaucracy keeping law enforcement/intelligence agencies from functioning effectively/cooperating would make sense in this universe, as information regarding Kudelia could have trouble circulating if competing agencies within Gjallahorn are fighting with each other for the glory/bragging rights of bringing her in all by themselves. Both 9/11 and the San Bernardino shooting happened because of this. It's flimsy but I ain't got any better ideas. Instead of a botched assassination and having the snipers just leave inexplicably, have Tekkaden swoop in just in time to save Kudelia. Maybe have them come in with unmarked Mobile Workers or something & wearing civilian clothing in order to preserve their identity? I know Orga said they couldn't overtly act or take part without being labeled as terrorists, but I just REALLY want a high-speed Mobile Worker chase throughout the city streets of Dort with Initial D-tier drifting and powersliding circles around the cops thanks to the Argentina-Vanilla system. Maybe the Mobile Worker carrying Fumitan gets taken down, and Kudelia has to watch as the Gjalla-Gestapo drags her out and executes her right in the middle of the street or something idk. I personally wouldn't change the Atra/Biscuit kidnapping arc, but that's just me.
>>13972193
And yes, give Choco Man/Not Char a chance to flex his political muscles. Make him the one pulling the strings that actually gets Kudelia on-air (everything else she did with organizing the broadcast is fine in my opinion) which forces McMurdo to stand down, and he can reveal himself afterwards. Show Kudelia fervently studying Earth's geography or whatever in the episode after the blockade fight so it make sense when she comes up with the train plan (not that i'm not glad that she's finally proving herself to be useful). As far as the broadcast goes, maybe Kudelia finds out about the sneaky assassination shenanigans through an audio recording Fumitan left behind for her, or she gains access to her iPad and sees the messages. I really like your idea of Chocoman mediating for the 2 sides which leads to a resolution.
5. Earth Arc
Once again, give our heroes a goddamned challenge for once. I get that these are soft, parade showpiece soldiers who have never actually had a day of combat experience, but at least let the sheer number of them be difficult to handle. Carta is the kind of character I love to hate, and seeing her getting manipulated/seduced to by McGillis take on Tekkaden on the ground with her forces despite the treaty that wouldn't allow it would have been great. It very obviously set back his father's plans, and would have further established Chocoman's own ambitions to change the system. Also knowing that she was just being used would drive her to revenge against the kids even further, which would explain the duel that she is gonna have that we saw in next week's preview. She's a spoiled, sheltered, arrogant military officer who was born into her station rather than earning it. The humiliation of dishonoring her family's name would make for a much better reason to desire revenge than the loss of her Ken dolls.
>>13972235
And Biscuit's death was pretty ham-fisted, but hearing "ORUPHAANS, NAMIDAAAA" really sold it for me. I wish he had gone out fighting, rather than running, like maybe Carta was heading towards where the PM and the other civilians were hiding, and Biscuit shakes Orga off his Mobile Worker and engages Carta's MS to buy time for Mika to make his way over to help out, but is just ever so slightly too late as Mika sees Carta kill Biscuit right in front of him and sees his two lovely ladies in danger, which could set off his rage. I know it wouldn't have the same effect as Orga being in danger, but I feel like Biscuit could've had a bit more dignity in his death this way.
Again, really like your suggestions overall anon. If I didn't address something, it's probably because I have somewhere to be very soon and I'm running out of time
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>>13968604
>"blame it on the misfortune of your birth"
It's not worth fixing.
>>13972162
1. Mars
Could work. I meant showing some more shit like "our corn is worth nothing because XXX trade agreement" but focus on Mars as a whole. We didn't see anything besides a child labor camp which is obviously going to be awful and a farm that wasn't great but didn't seem so bad. We only see stuff like that through Kudelia's one flashback.
2. Turbines
I guess that comes down to opinion. I understood what Naze was supposed to be but it took away from Tekkadan's development by not forcing Orga to act as a leader and connecting with his own crew. I had mixed feelings about the big battle because the animation and choreography are lacking enough to take me out of the moment big I agree that they should try to make the enemies more of a challenge. Mika hasn't really changed in his piloting because he always fights jobbers. Otherwise I basically agree.
3. Brewers
They just left a bad taste. Their overly cartoonish, hilariously evil personalities, the QUALITY battles, the long-lost brother, the time it took for this all to happen... None of it was good. I would have preferred a direct skirmish with Gjallerhorn but if they're going to fight pirates then change the Brewers, make them really similar to the CGS guys instead of caricatures. Agreed that it should be an actual fight instead of whatever we got, and either kill the little blonde kid or don't have him hurt in the first place. I think that they should spend a little more time on the aftermath to reinforce the integration and family themes. Guts can do as you said, explaining why Tekkafamily is so great while realizing it himself. I forget what Orga's speech was about.
>>13971385
It's more like Orga genuinely believes he's doing what's best for his family, but to that end he has to make use of Mika, who's as dangerous as he is simple.
And in a way that makes Orga the prisoner of Mika's expectations. He has to keep going down the risky road he's chosen or else lose his greatest asset.
And with the loss of Biscuit, one of the few people he can show vulnerability and doubts towards, he's even more isolated.
>>13972948
4. Dort
I can the interagency rivalry happening. The assassination I assumed wouldn't have happened, Gjallerhorn just thought they could mow her down in the crowd but she left unexpectedly to find Fumitan. Not sure exactly how that would play out. Fumitan is still shot and Kudelia doesn't die but it isn't as dumb as Kudelia dodging machine guns, Fumitan spotting the sniper and taking the bullet, snipers retreating etc. A Mobile Worker chase would be pretty nice, Orga could have them escort Kudelia to wherever they need to broadcast. Didn't realize that I didn't mention Fumitan leaving behind physical evidence too so that would be the same. Atra kidnapping arc just enforced that Gjallerhorn is retarded for not spotting Kudelia but it was sparked by Biscuit's brother, who I probably would have removed. The kidnapping part would conflict with Kudelia taking a central position at the rally if they confused her with Atra, but removing it also takes away Atra's moment of trying to be like Kudelia. I thought it would be better to have them captured as Tekkadan members in general though.
So maybe the timeline from Kudelia's POV would be realizing they fucked up with weapons and cargo -> meeting demonstrators and seeing their super shitty lives -> leading/calming the now-rioting demonstrators -> leaving because Fumitan is in danger (still not sure hoe to connect that part) -> finding her and getting secret data -> finding the demonstrators dead -> getting picked up by Mobile Workers (Gjallerhorn has realized that she wasn't killed and sent MWs of their own to capture her, Orga gets there first) -> chase -> ending up at broadcast station -> get message from Choco as their pursuers back off -> making a deal with Choco, trading info that would hurt Gjallerhorn in exchange for some worker's rights -> leaving Dort.
I think that's everything.
>>13973069
5. Kudelia
Kudelia is amazing.
>>13972948
5. Earth
Agreed on basically every point in the first part, they held off all of Earth Gjallerhorn and the Carta Issue with 5 mobile suits and a few traps. I wasn't entirely satisfied with Biscuit's death but I can't expect that every death is going to be amazing. It was enough despite the obviousness and hamfistedness of it all.
I didn't mind the way he died. He wasn't a hero but he made the smart decision in a split second which is very much like him. Mika not being able to catch Carta and then letting her escape was pretty stupid though. Mika didn't have a problem with grunts up until that second, for one. The idea was fine but the execution was lacking.
>>13973089
Sugoi
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>>13972162
I like these changes. Keep them up anons.
>>13973069
>A Mobile Worker chase would be pretty nice, Orga could have them escort Kudelia to wherever they need to broadcast.
Mobile Workers are seriously underused in the show.Mecha are seriously underused in the show, really.
>>13972248
>And Biscuit's death was pretty ham-fisted, but hearing "ORUPHAANS, NAMIDAAAA" really sold it for me.
I dunno. It made it all just too over the top, and I couldn't take it seriously.
Anyway, one thing I would add to the talk of rewriting is (if Brewers still happens) that Takaki or Yamagi or whoever that blonde faggot with the sister was stays dead.
No magic healing water, just dead.
>>13973519
Or just never put him in danger in the first place. It'd be kinda silly if he got killed off the second he got any characterization. Have a random member of Tekkaden get brought on patrol instead of him I guess, mainly because seeing the Graze with a MW on it's back like Yoda & Luke was kinda cool to me for some reason
>tfw you'll never be Akihiro's backpack bro, scouting out asteroid fields together
New info from the model kits
-Kimaris Trooper: H:19.1m, W:32.7t. Still Good for frontal attacks and now can parry enemy attacks. No mention of Gaelio getting AV System.
-Carta's Graze Ritter: model number: EB-06rs, H: 18.7m, W:32.1t. Used in ceremonies, almost no combata data due to the Arianhord Fleet on the moon. Better mobility than the Graze which is its sister machine. Carta is one of the few non corrupt GJ people, though her fleet was considered decoration.
Carta confirmed for not evil just stupid
>>13971363
>no Biscuitbro or "I'm Kudelia!" though
"I'm Kudelia" is an effective way to show how much information is controlled in their dystopia, to the point where civvies and even the grunts of gjallerhorn don't have access to whatever internet exists.
Or did you miss that?
>>13979346
Why the fuck would you tell your grunts to capture Kudelia without giving them that information? The top brass have her info, they know her. The information could have easily been passed to grunts. It isn't a matter of internet, law enforcement has had accurate wanted posters for hundreds of years and shitty posters for much longer. In the digital age there is no excuse.
>>13979308
>Carta confirmed for not evil just stupid
She is confirmed for CUTE then.
>>13979354
because their bosses DIDN'T tell them to do that - biscuit's bro gave them a tipoff, remember?
in a dystopia, info is a precious, deftly-wielded commodity. you give people shitty, confusing info and you NEVER give people more info than they need. two grunts who were incredibly unlikely to ever run into this person of interest wouldn't be given photos of her.
>>13979359
A cute idiot marching straight to her death for the sale of honor, she and Gali are getting played by McGillis
>>13965323
Actually according to the Master Grade Turn A 00 is part of the timeline too.
>>13965399
Fuunsaki was in Turn A too.
>>13979383
Their pure, noble spirits are just too good to exist.
>>13967631
what was the point of this shot anyway?
>>13963705
Oh gee thanks for the spoiler warning jackoff.
>>13979369
>feed and arm a worker's revolt through Tekkadan, who they know is carrying Kudelia
>never tell your grunts to be on the lookout for Kudelia
>instead of ignoring some faggot's tip your grunts respond to someone claiming to know Kudelia even though they were never ordered to be on the lookout
Genius
>>13979461
Nigga it's almost been two weeks.
yaraon tv ratings where?
>>13979517
no idea, here is a song
Started watching earlier this week, finally caught up today. Here's my pic for paying respects to Biscuit.May his remains go into a delicious cheesecake
>>13979567
I love it, someone send it to 2chan so they can laugh at it.
>>13979346
>even the grunts of gjallerhorn don't have access to whatever internet exists
Please, it only shows how forced and stupid the writing is.
It makes no sense for them to be ordered to capture her without even knowing her face even after Fumitan has been spying for years.
Kudelia wasn't exactly some kind of spy or someone hiding from Stalin.
>>13979517
2ch was trolling episode 18, comparing it to G-Reco's episode 18 (2.1%).
>>13979599
Alternatively the only place to get information is the official imageboard for Gjallarhorn. And nobody wants to go to 7chan.
>>13979604
I think they weren't trolling it.
>>13979711
2 posts were making fun of IBO's rating, I think.
Anyway, it is a big drop. Half of what it started with and almost a 1/3rd of the highest rating. It is not going up even though the story started getting momentum.
>>13965293
>Hell yeah motherfucker
>Hell yeah motherfucker
>>13971346
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>>13971369
Christ, it's like those anons who tried to fix EVOL.
>>13979711
got a link, please?
>>13979781
Still a better story than IBO.
>>13979796
I don't have a link.
>>13979796
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/80340
I think this is it
>>13963705
>Make Tekkadanpay for Cookie's and Cracker's tuition!
>>13979839
>Better story than IBO
>EVOL
Shitpost/10. Made me reply. Enjoy your (You)
>>13980445
I think anon was referring to the story changes the anons were making, not EVOL.
>>13964496
yep, seems to be heading that way
>>13964995
>Tekadon gets to edmonton
>just in time to see the oilers pick first overall for the 300th time since the calamity war
how would you feel?
>>13965049
have you ever been to edmonton? There is nothing about it that screams important.
