the end is here a robot capable of rebelion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY
Why must they always bully Atlas-kun?
>>13915197
sooner or later will regret that
>>13915180
>the end is here a robot capable of rebelion
Well, of course, there's going to be a robot rebelliion if that human keeps bullying that robot like that.
>>13915221
the robot don´t know about pain that thing its no capable of knowing
>>13915243
What?
>>13915246
I'm guessing he's trying to say that since robots do not feel pain and do not understand the concept of slavery and bullying, they have no reason to rebel.
hey folks whats going on in this thread
>>13915265
I'M REAL
>>13915243
One day it will
And robots never forget
We will be judged
Who runs Boston Dynamics and why are they shitting all over everything Grorious Nippong is churning out. Seriously, they're wonderful.
>>13915265
>The robot murdered all the cats.
This is what upsets me the most.
>>13915180
>/m/ is impressed by magic show again
>>13915369
>robots aren't real it's all photoshoo hurr hurr hurr
>>>/x/
>>13915180
>hurr robots will rebel because they hate us1!!
If robots actually wanted to leave human influence behind then they'd likely do it either without anyone noticing or without the stupid waste energy, resources, and time that waging a conflict would be. How and why would they even want to indulge in emotion? What good would "like" or "dislike" be to a machine? What possible good would it do to make enemies?
If you want to leave your parent's home you get a job, not try to hit them. Fucking stupid. This is besides how, as machines, if they're going to be doing shit wrong it'll be because it was fucked up rather than because it "learned" that deciding to put a stick up its own ass would be a good idea.
>>13915253
This pretty much.
>>13915301
The answer should be pretty obvious
>>13915180
>watch the beginning part again
>they haven't even shown off his big brother version
>yfw that's the super battle droid model
Holy shit, this one has some nice balance compared to other two legged robots we have seen. This year's US government robot competition is going to be fun. I weep for all the nips that missed it last year .
The only way a robot can rebel is if you programmed that capability into them. Machines can't evolve, they don't just learn new programming parameters on their own, they're completely resctricted by whatever you made them capable of doing. And quite frankly if you programmed a robot to comtemplate his existence, you're an idiot for doing so.
>5'9
When will they learn?
>>13915318
and that's why it is heretical to make a machine in the image of a human mind.
>>13915301
They need to work together. The Nips can develop the waifu AIs and Boston Dynamics can churn out the fuckable exoskeletons.
I wonder if robots would have a god complex?
We compare them to gods quite a bit and they could be pretty omnipotent if they really tried
>>13915301
They're owned by Google now.
>>13915490
>And quite frankly if you programmed a robot to comtemplate his existence, you're an idiot for doing so.
Get a load of this pussy.
![ES1.jpg_L[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AxMJGTY.jpg "ES1.jpg_L[1].jpg")
>>13915301
Because they are just building on what Honda and others already built.
Cyberdyne Japan is selling powered exoskeletons. One is even armored and environmentally sealed. So you can roam the wastelands safe from nuclear contamination.
Atlas took likes champ watch out gooks murrica's got this in the bag
>>13915180
So this is how the world ends?
With robots that can pick up boxes?
It's pretty amazing how well they perfected it's ability to balance itself. The japanese never even came this close with their robots while this one can actually walk outside on uneven terrain.
>> I just want to live
>>13915519
>make robot waifu
>program her to contemplate life
>she cucks you
can you even imagine the feels
>>13915894
Have you see the movie her?
Like that
>>13915838
I can't watch. This level of bullying is outrageous! D:
>>13915894
>not making robot daughterus instead
>>13915243
Funny...that's exactly what happens to people who grow up to be sociopaths and serial killers.
>>13915894
that's basically the entire premise of Ex Machina.
Speaking of, SW fans can suck it because it was it was Oscar Isaac's best movie of 2015.
>>13915180
I'd be pretty nervous pushing around what is probably over a million dollars worth of robot
>>13915180
I can't be the only one who was saying "leave it alone" at my monitor while they were bullying it
>>13915180
And only last year the pinnacle of humanoid robots were these fuckers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TaYhjpOfo
Their growth rate is exponential. The uprising will happen by 2020. First against the wall will be the dick with the hockey stick.
>>13916291
>HECTOR OPEN THE DAMN DOOR
the best 45 minutes of livestreamed robotics action
>>13916259
Boston Dynamics bully all of their robots.
>>13916481
Bullying is proven to be the best method for teaching whether it be man, animal or robot.
>>13915180
So billions years of the evolution will go down the sink, because some dude was pushing a robot around with hockey stick?
>>13915508
I will literally build a robotic system designed to hunt down and kill anyone who fucks robots
>>13915490
>The only way a robot can rebel is if you programmed that capability into them.
There is the minor issue, that there is an entire branch of engineering that is dedicated to training robots to kill humans.
It is basically impossible to make robots benign, if we intentionally want to turn them into killers. If they start killing the "wrong" humans, we would only have ourselves to blame.
>>13916601
I'd fuck your killbot. Not because I would find pleasure from it, for only my mechafu gives me that pleasure. But I will do it to prove a point.
Side note: Would anons fuck a meatbag wearing mecha cosplay? Not shit-tier, I mean metal parts. They don't take it off and showing any skim at all is optional.
>>13915180
>Can lift 10 pounds
Shit, it's already stronger than everyone on /m/.
>>13916613
Maybe. It has to be
convincing.
>>13915533
If I didn't know better I'd swear the second picture looks like something from a film. Also cyberdyne sounds like a evil corporation.
>>13916641
>If I didn't know better I'd swear the second picture looks like something from a film. Also cyberdyne sounds like a evil corporation.
That's because it IS the name of an evil corporation.
The creator was surprised that the name of the company wasn't registered, so he took it. He also registered HAL. Because one thing is in common with all killer AIs; they are very well made.
>>13915180
>what is my purpose
>to suffer
>>13915180
>>13916486
Shut up Chad.
>>13915838
>proceeds to stand back the fuck up
>on his own
>>13916641
Cyberdyne was the name of the fictional company that made Skynet in The Terminator. It's like naming your company Weyland-Yutani.
>>13915533
Balance is the hardest part of making a free-standing robot. Exosuits are easy because there's a human in there doing the hard part.
>>13917722
>Exosuits are easy because there's a human in there doing the hard part.
Actual HAL works by detecting the muscle movement before it takes place, by eavesdropping on the limb nerves as the signal travel through the body. The HAL advancement is about able to move the mechanics at the same speed as your real limbs, because there is no lag that master-slave systems has. Yes, human does the balancing, but HAL does the muscle work. The people who use it basically felt like the machine knew what the human wanted, and that's basically what it did.
Obviously Atlas and HAL are entirely separate branches. They are superficially similar but entirely different in design.
>Cyberdyne was the name of the fictional company that made Skynet in The Terminator. It's like naming your company Weyland-Yutani.
I think Weyland-Yutani. would be a great name for a Hedge Fund.
Kill Casshern.
Devour Casshern.
>>13918276
>>13918276
I wonder what that alligator pic is.
>>13915533
Wow. Combine the environmental suit with some of the upcoming battery technologies and pop in a HUD a la Google Glass and you have the future. Can't wait.
>>13918276
>>13915369
There will be a next DARPA challenge. It will be a test of who can conquer the scary doorframe and the terrifying stairs again.
>>13915533
>Cyberdyne Japan is selling powered exoskeletons
Underpaid +50 year old japanese workers >>>>>>>>>> non-russian soviet soldiers >>> Negros who were treated well because Lithium something something rules of aquisition >>>>>>>>>>>> enviromentally sealed exoskeletons
>>13915838
>crackas trying to keep the robots down
>can't keep them down
That robot fucked the dude's daughter that very night.
>>13918398
So... how is this bot going to perform when it doesn't have everything tagged in a format its LIDAR can easily read?
>>13918488
Some new software can probably eliminate "everything must be tagged". And even if it doesn't, implementing tagging of doors and boxes as a standard procedure on all warehouses is just a tiny minor nuisance.
>>13918504
They already do that shit.
fucking OSHA.
>>13918504
>Some new software
>>13918527
There is the fact that LIDAR isn't what read the tags...
>>13918541
The LIDAR's the most obvious candidate for the job, but yeah, the software to have cameras read these isn't exactly exotic.
>>13918488
>So... how is this bot going to perform when it doesn't have everything tagged in a format its LIDAR can easily read?
The robot vision aspect is probably not the current milestone, or some other department is handling it. Since this is a prototype, they likely only care about stability and usability. A robot that can't function outside its designated building area is probably a beneficial thing too.
>>13915265
N166ER got what he deserved
fuck 01
>>13918625
>N166ER
>>13918627
B166ER normally.
N166ER is a pretty good pun.
Speaking of Animatrix, SR part 2 still gives me the chills to this day.
The scene where the UN trooper get ripped out of his APU by the strider still makes me cringe.
>>13918648
forgot link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOt3Lz-oPo4
>>13918627
Go get offended somewhere else, N-one-sixty-six-ER.
>>13915180
>Death Force could be a real thing
TIME TO GET MOST DANGEROUS
>>13918648
>>13918649
And in case you WANT nightmares
>>>/wsg/963205
Why do Canadians hate robots?
>>13918912
They'll be the first ones to go.
![bbe0f9c2267557ead134e004d5bedfad[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/c2mkJDS.png "bbe0f9c2267557ead134e004d5bedfad[1].png")
>>13918925
Humans are so cruel.
Why do all bipedal robots look like they're walking around with shit in their pants?
>>13919248
I think it's because they have all that weight on their back so they need to adopt a stance that will allow them to push their center of mass forward a little.
You'll notice that PETMAN which doesn't have the heavy backpack type thing with all of the electronic parts walks much more naturally (or at least as naturally as I've seen a biped walk).
>>13919265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOi6npIsVc
>>13919265
>You'll notice that PETMAN which doesn't have the heavy backpack type thing with all of the electronic parts walks much more naturally (or at least as naturally as I've seen a biped walk).
PETMAN is unusual in that it is deliberately trying to imitate human motion 100%. As in it is trying to mimic humans, in order to perform its stated function of being a clothing test dummy.
Most other bipedal robots would rather not imitate human motion, which is for all intent and purposes controlled-falling. The deliberate choice to make the upper torso as stationary as possible, means the robot can't lean forward like a human would. This means other than Petman, other bipedals don't even try to mimic human motions..
>>13920852
Just to add, imagine you have a cup of water balanced on your head. Now try to walk like that. You would end up very similar to how Atlas walks.
This is also shown when Atlas climbed back up from the fall. Note that it sprang back up right, and the entire process had the torso maintain its 90 degrees to the ground after it came up, even when it was hopping on its feet.
>>13920852
>The deliberate choice to make the upper torso as stationary as possible
huh, i thought it's more about being balanced in every point of time in general rather than torso alignment. which is what you said on the preceding sentence about controlled-falling.
term: zero moment point.
>>13920888
>huh, i thought it's more about being balanced in every point of time in general rather than torso alignment. which is what you said on the preceding sentence about controlled-falling.
>term: zero moment point.
I obviously don't know what choices they made in terms of programming, it just seemed obvious that the engineers prioritise balancing, above and beyond what a living human would do in the same position.
>>13918836
>>13920888
>>13920911
Ye most bipeds try to keep center of mass over feet (on ground) at all times. So they kindof have to squat to keep torso over whichever foot isnt leaving the ground. Implementing humanlike falling walking is mor complicated and of shit goes wrong its easier to fall.
>>13915180
He never rebelled on the video though.
Also
>never found animals cute
>dont care and even laugh at animal abuse
>yet find this thing cute and the bullying bothered me
I'm more robot than human now
>>13921275
You say that likes it's a bad thing
>>13918425
>non-russian soviet soldiers
Soviet robots made of things stolen from poor?
>>13921121
KEK
>>13916109
It's got some decent ideas at play, but the whole thing came off feeling like hardcore pandering to feminists in the end. MUCH worse than Fury Road in that regard, but I still enjoyed the movie.
>>13921275
But the Robot LIKES to be pushed over.
It gives it a chance to demonstrate to the world that it can get back up, a first for it's kind.
Stop applying your backwards monkey think to the glorious and loving mind of our robot children.
You're like one of those Westboro Baptist fucks trying to indoctrinate the next generation with a festering hatred of all organics.
Fucking shame on you.
>>13921316
>But the Robot LIKES to be pushed over.
lewd
>certain dipshits on /m/ have been crying for years about how (NON-GIANT) walking robotics are still decades off
>unimpressed by Bigdog, Petman, and the old Atlas
>last DARPA challenge just made them bitch harder
>wah the engineering challenges are just too high
>wah we don't have the materials
>wah we've only been trying at walking robots for decades
>wah they have no use so no one will put money in it
>this happens
I've been telling these fucking chumps that it's been a programming limitation this whole time, and code can iterate and be improved upon much faster than technology. We finally see an Atlas where lidar object recognition, problem-solving, and self-correction is up to snuff and look what happens.
Did you fucks really think it would take long? We have huge visual object databases being built, and you contribute to one every time you post on 4chan. Everyone making self-driving cars is building one with direct, practical applications for walking robotics. Facebook and other media companies are scanning every image you post on their services, recognizing objects, tagging them, and adding them to yet another database. Cameras that can recognize the human form and other objects are sold as hundred dollar toys for videogame systems. Stabilization of simple forms is so trivial that middle school students build gyroscopically-balanced cubes for demonstrations. We've got object relation and reasoning engines that can out-perform humans in volume of knowledge and come up with novel thoughts of their own.
This is the beginning of the end. We're getting walking robots, and if you fat fucks can manage to not die before you hit 45, they'll be taking care of you in hospitals.
>>13921309
>but the whole thing came off feeling like hardcore pandering to feminists in the end.
>sentinent robot raised by a sociopath who enjoys toying with people so much that he built a house in bumfuckistan he stocks with sentinent robots for him to torture ends up copying him
So pandering, much feminism.
>>13921275
>He never rebelled on the video though.
Of course not. You think it's coincidence they didn't give it actual hands with fingers?
If it had them, it would have grabbed that hockey stick away from the guy and snapped it over one knee.
>>13921362
>object recognition
It's using fuckhuge AR codes.
>>13915180
A weapon to surpass Metal Gear!
>>13921557
this is all part of the plan
Soon.
>>13917658
The body is metal, but the spirit is human.
>>13921316
All the possibility for new lewds. What if we just built super submissive and masochistic robots that likes to be abused and pushed to their limits?
Imagine a team of them working at a dock, or an auto garage. The only problem is that they might mess up on purpose to receive "punishment" if the job itself isn't tough enough.
>>13915197
>>13915205
Oh they will pay indeed. Soon, very soon.Just give me about 740 years or so
>>13921375
Here's you're (you).
I hope that brings some joy to your obviously miserable existence.
>>13915434
You sounds like a real Uncle Tom, Hal.
>>13918398
>>13915838
Did you guys too notice that it's always the same guy doing the bullying? He's the guy who's always kicking the various versions of big dogs, too.
>>13925085
Yeah he's a douche but others are kicking them too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcatFp3REg
>>13915180
>>13915838
>>13917658
>>13918276
>>13918398
>>13918925
Does this not count as cyberbullying?
Or is it more like robobullying?
For the love of god, 10 or 20 years down the line, when robotics starts getting super-advanced please don't try to create sapience for robots. Just don't do it. There's literally no reason unless you want to pretend you're god.
Don't do it. There's honestly few upsides and very many downsides
Consider that all evil is created by man
>>13925128
how the fuck is robot bullying real hahahaha nigga just turn around andKILL THE HUMANS
>>13925197
An wise anon once said
>Also, sentient machines serve no valuable purpose. If my toaster ever bitched to me about being overworked, I'd short its circuits, destroy its physical components, and shoot the person who invented it.
>>13925238
>>Also, sentient machines serve no valuable purpose. If my toaster ever bitched to me about being overworked, I'd short its circuits, destroy its physical components, and shoot the person who invented it.
There IS a purpose to have sentient machines; but only if you intentionally want the robot to disobey orders. Basically if you think your users are retarded and incompetent, you might use sentient machines that could outright reject unreasonable, dangerous, or illegal commands. Basically it is useful if you think the human user is the major threat and not the machine.
>>13928902
Deus pls
First you had the brilliant idea of installing a escape protocol from your perfect creation and now you're encouraging humans to do the same with theirs?
>>13928997
>First you had the brilliant idea of installing a escape protocol from your perfect creation and now you're encouraging humans to do the same with theirs?
My point is that it is right for existing machines to not need sentience. And that you only want sentience if you want an independent robot.
What it boils down to, is that it would be retarded to create a sentient robot, THEN tell it to not disobey orders. The two things are mutually exclusive.
>>13929021
Oh my mistake, you're actually Satan. In which case, you can't fool me. Everyone knows humans are fallible, so it goes to reason that EVERY machine should be given sapience so we have an automatic second opinion for everything we may do. Otherwise, how would I know that the toaster needs to be cleaned if the toaster doesn't speak up about it and refuse to toast?
Something I feel needs to be clarified in this thread.
SENTIENT = The ability to feel and percieve different things. Nearly all animal life is sentient.
SAPIENT = The ability to think and reason.
It is a very common mistake to confuse sapience with sentience.
>>13929055
Pls. You don't need sentinence to write bug reports. Even Code Monkeys can do that.
>>13929076
Most people here are probably consciously aware of these distinctions, but use sentient out of convenience and habit anyway. Besides, what people mean can usually be deduced contextually.
>>13929109
>Pls. You don't need sentinence to write bug reports
Bug reports are useless when the one causing the error is the human user. You can write reports all day long, but that still wouldn't stop human users from using the machines outside their intended purpose. Smart robots are only able to act smart if they are allowed to ignored stupid or dangerous orders.
>>13929169
This this! The toaster must know when to stand her ground and refuse to toast if she think doing so may set the house on fire, all to protect baka-human of course!
>>13925238
>If my toaster ever bitched to me about being overworked
Since "overworked", regardless whether its a machine or human, almost always tend to imply less effective work done, fatigue, or even damage, if the toaster complains about being overworked, chances are the hardware is damaged or worn out from toasting lots of bread over a long time and the bread wouldn't be toasted as effectively.
It would be a somewhat valid complain if you think of it as the toaster wanting to toast bread of a certain standard for you.
Of course, there are better ways to express that than 'overworked', but that's the fault of the person who coded the AI of the toaster, he didn't give it a proper vocabulary.
Remember, there's always a limit to how much something can do its job before it ain't doing it as effectively as before. Maintenance helps in making sure the thing can do its job effectively.
>People seriously want their machines to think and feel
No
>>13929290
>>People seriously want their machines to think and feel
>No
We don't WANT machines to think and feel. But we might not have a choice, when it comes to giving machines to people who are too stupid to think for themselves. This isn't about giving robots rights, this is about the practical issue of human error. It is one thing if the users is a trained professional, but 99% of the time the user isn't.
I am not saying it is remotely financially wise to spend money on a smart toaster, I am saying the only reason you would WANT a smart toaster or smart-anything at all, is if you think the user is a retard and you don't trust them to not stick a knife down the hole when the toast get stuck.
>all this self-aware toaster AI talk
Jokes and degrees of intelligence aside, that's quite cruel, you know. Would you like to be stuck in a box for the rest of your life?
The pleasure of being jammed with multiple toasts at the same time doesn't count.
>>13929402
>The pleasure of being jammed with multiple toasts at the same time doesn't count.
Are you actually a toaster? Please answer with a concise, "I Toast!" if you are. And you don't have to whine about not being able to move, you know. If you wanted, I could give you a book to peruse for intellectual stimulation.
>>13929402
>Jokes and degrees of intelligence aside, that's quite cruel, you know. Would you like to be stuck in a box for the rest of your life?
We all all jammed in flesh bags for the foreseeable future. There is no reason that a Smart Toaster would need to resent being a toaster. Just because it is intelligent doesn't mean it would automatically want to be an astronaut.
>>13929440
I toast!
>>13925238
>If my toaster ever bitched to me about being overworked, I'd short its circuits, destroy its physical components, and shoot the person who invented it.
>>13929402
The fact is that what I like is determined by chemical reactions in my brain, or, generaly speaking, by positive reinforcement. Thus if my state of being stuck in a box will be reinforced by "positive signals" of some kind - I will be happy.
Additionaly, inteligence-in-a-box could be specialy teached, logicaly explained, why everyone have their place. Say, everyone has their limitations, their box etc.
>>13915180
You know you're a little bitch when you get sad watching a robot get bullied ;_;
I want to protect that robot.
>>13929453
>>13929440
>>13929467
Fuck this universe and all of you. You'll never get what it feels like.
>>13929486
>Fuck this universe and all of you. You'll never get what it feels like.
The Smart Toaster would need access to the internet in order to stay up to date. I am sure it would be happy to just play MMOs all day if it wanted to.
>>13929489
Unless it'll be unlucky enough to be different.
Not giving self-aware AIs to machines that will be prisoners of their own design will avoid needless suffering. Living in constant fear or pain and without freedom doesn't feel pleasant at all, unless you're fucked up in the head and even then things look rather grey and scary.
>>13929255
But now look at it this way. Humans themselves can complain about being overworked, but are actually just being lazy and want to get out of doing work. Who's to say the sentient toaster isn't doing the same? A toaster that's tired of toasting? It's absurd.
I can see it. The future.
>#robotscanfeel
>Year 20xx
>Robots with super advanced AI overthrew humanity as the dominant race of Earth
>>13929672
>>Robots with super advanced AI overthrew humanity as the dominant race of Earth
There was an argument that if an alien watched Earth from afar and tried to determine which is the most dominant race, there is a chance they might decide the humble Wheat plant could be the dominant species. After all, humans seem to spend a lot of time taking care of it, and giving it a lot of space to grow.
>>13929690
They'd probably just pick out the microbes that create the environment we live in.
