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Crossovers are FUN

The relevant link list:

-Songs, CD/BD releases, lyrics and general information: http://pastebin.com/EeTkSpKa
-Hibiki Radio Station: http://hibiki-radio.jp/description/symphogear-gx
-Main S3 site: http://www.symphogear-gx.com/
-Episode 13
[Commie] - https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=739337
[HS] - http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=737864
[H&D] - https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=759881
-Fourth BD Volume
[RAW] - https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=771572
「SMASHING ANTHEMS」:
LOSSY V1 - https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=754956
LOSSY V2 - https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=75496
「BAYONET CHARGE/RADIANT FORCE (IGNITED arrangement)」
LOSSY - http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=761023

Believe in Fist and Hold Determination to Justice.

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Zoid said that the subs for the first special were done.
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>>13759342

Good to hear that.
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Ordering doujinshi is such fun.
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>>13759362
I hope those fish don't imply something strange with them
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>>13759367
> I thought you said Maria was dead!
> No, what I said is that she sleeps with the fishes!
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>>13759367
Nope.

And as I thought, this frame was from the doujin.
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>>13759382
That's fucking lewd.
Why is Mikugear on there?
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>>13759351
Taking the Fine act a little far there.
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>>13759395
Ummm, flashback maybe?

> "Remember that time we kidnapped and brainwashed Miku?"
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>>13759395
Tsubasa is asking Maria if Ver can invent something to express her AI for Maria.
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>>13759404
Is this going where I think it's going? I thought hb only made pure doujin.
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>>13759382
>Tsubasa getting a handful of Maria's Candenzavna and Eve
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>>13759395
>>13759402
Something along those lines. I didn't bother reading it yet.
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>>13759342
Based Zoid.
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>>13759420
Can you post more sword cat cuddling? It's not a lewd doujin, is it?
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>>13759395
Maria said that she regreted doing horrible things to Miku and went to apologize to her.
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>>13759457
Only as lewd at that picture; boobs but covered nipples.
Give me a few moments.
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Here are some shots
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>>13759520
That's basically all the cuddling.
It starts with Hibiki and Miku visiting their place, and there's some less "lewd" pillow talk when they're alone.
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>>13759509
>>13759516
>>13759519
I expected no lewd but this is actually super lewd.
>heavy kissing with saliva trails
This might be my fetish.
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>>13759561
Yeah it's hot as fuck.
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>Miku, let's get married
>...Yes
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TsubasaXFate doujin when?
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>>13759670
When Nana wills it
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I just watched G and it was surprisingly much less hype than the first season.

So far nothing's matched up to SYMPHOGEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH in episode 12. But then I haven't seen GX yet.

Just wanted to share.
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>>13759670
>Nanoha x Symphogear crossover
>Tsubasa's coolness attracts Fate, Alicia and Levi
>they all interact with each other
>meanwhile in the real world Nana is going insane talking to herself in a corner of a dark room
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>>13759690
>>Tsubasa's coolness attracts Fate, Alicia and Levi
>Tsubasa is extremely disturbed by the 3 of them having the same exact faces
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>>13759678
This, 100%.
Don't worry, GX won't change that.
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>>13759698
>she thinks they're just triplets and never questions them
>she wonders why Levi calls Fate "Heito" and why the hell Fate looks older than Alicia
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>>13759690
How much Nana is too much Nana?
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>>13759678
GX episode 1 is hype as fuck, the rest is kinda bad.
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>>13759726
There's no such thing as ‘too much Nana‘.
Except she is your wife that is with you any time of the day, then you have a 77% chance of a Nana overdose.
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>>13759718
>Realises that they have a good voice for singing and brings them all to a karaoke
What songs do they sing?
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>>13759736
GX's second part is the worst of the worst. Except Ver
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>>13759744
I thought none of them were as bad as Miku's shit in S1.
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>>13759739
Eternal Blaze, Innocent Starter, Exterminate, Vitalization, Synchogazer, Koi no Okehazama, fucktons of Enka.
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>>13759751
Alicia and Levi sings only the cute Nana songs.
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>>13759739
>they get a CD
>Kazanari Tsubasa (CV. Mizuki Nana) x Fate Testarossa Harlaown (CV. Mizuki Nana) x Alicia Testarossa (CV. Mizuki Nana) x Material-L (CV. Mizuki Nana)
If this ever happens I'll laugh my ass off.
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>>13759749
That wasn't that bad.
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>>13759757
>Levi "kakkoi boku" the Slasher
>cute Nana songs
She'll sing Bayonet Charge with Tsubasa.
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>>13759749
The reconcilation was top tier so it doesn't matter
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>got some curry from the Governor of Ehime
>became super delighted
Reminder that Nana will never love you as much as she loves her curry.

http://www.mizukinana.jp/blog/2016/01/post-3161.html
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>>13759790
But I can learn to cook the greatest curry she has ever eaten.
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>>13759763
This solves the problem of other singers being drowned out by Nana's voice. Nana just needs to have a duet with herself!
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>>13759795
>wanting the Nana to become more mentally damaged
Give her a break, she already lost her papa.
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>>13759790
>tfw Nana-senpai will never eat you the way she eats her curry
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>>13759758
Add Rico, Nanami and Tsubomi or Ange too so it'll be seven.
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>>13759998
>no bikkiclips
>at home

LEWD
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>>13760003
And she wants food and to get married.
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>>13760019
The problem is that she wants to get married with the food.
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>>13759342
Zoid said the preliminary subs are done. Looks like he was the one holding everything up, and now we still need to wait for someone else to turn his subs into readable English.
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>>13760127
Who can blame her?

captcha was asking for trees, I picked the food. fuck
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>>13759690
If the KanColle VAs can handle it, Nana can too. And then there was that one time Kana Asumi voiced a whole bunch of Arnvals in the Busou Shinki anime.
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>>13760334
and when their alternate selves met up in the Neptuina anime.

Not to mention Nep and Big Nep (not Purple Heart but a new character) in V-II have the same VA
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>>13760389
This Big Nep? And I thought the only one whose alternate self was present in the Neptune anime was Anonydeath. Or did they meet up in an OVA?
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>>13760400
Yes.

in Neptuina V-II (2/2 release date)
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I love boobs
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>>13760389
>in the Neptuina anime.
They meet in the games too, but you don't get to play with both
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>>13759352
hero of 4th season never, funny thing is that if they are from lydian means with some LiNKER they can probably use a symphogear
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>>13760528
Maybe that was the plan. If the Bikkibuds became popular enough, they would get their own gears.
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>>13760400
Big nep does things to me, even moreso than little nep. How is this possible?
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>>13760580
It's the legs and that slight hint of cleavage.
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>>13760591
I think also the long hair. Please tell me she is still fun like little nep with maybe only a tiny bit of seriousness like Purple Heart.

Playstation 3 localized release when?
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Why do you guys keep posting date a live characters?
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>/sgg/ - Neptunia General
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>>13760650
I wish, I would talk DAL with sgg, but apparently nep is more popular.
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>>13760650
Because Tsunako has the hands of a goddess.
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>>13760656
I still need to catch up on the last two volumes of the LN.
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>>13760657
And takes then to a lovely picnic every now and then?
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>>13760528
I don't know if it'd be funnier for Itaba to get a bow Gear for name puns or the Gae Bolg for seiyuu jokes.
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>>13760624
>Playstation 3 localized release when?
Never?
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>>13760661
>I still need to catch up on the last two volumes of the LN.
I'm waiting on season 3 so that I can continue to be lazy and not read all the LNs. The first 3 were nice but I just can't find myself to continue.
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>>13760656
because Neps > harem trash
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>>13760692
Nah, clock makes DAL better than neps.
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>>13760747
Wrong.
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>>13760750
Anon, multiple people can be into a hobby.
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Anyone can pose
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>>13760666
666 thats some diabolical omen there,maybe its a sign of Itaba getting a gear, of something Im sure she will shout out her attacks unlike the other geahs who get the attack cards.
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>>13760763
>Anyone can pose

yes, pic related does it for no reason
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>>13760747
She does have "Death Thirteen" in her G character song.
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>>13760591
She wears nothing under that hoodie.
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>>13760763
This reminds me
Tiger best girl. Also, damn you, mystical light of censorship drawn on the cells
I wonder if the leiur part of elfnein's mind makes her pose randomly from time to time
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>>13760775
>Shu, come over here
>No, this is my spot, my Obari chiaroscuro spot
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>>13760806
>japanese girls in business suits
Always best girl.
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>>13760819
Lightweight
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>>13760819
>Ogawa letting the Sakimori drink
He knows better than that. The only reason why we haven't lost the swordwing to the Octocat is because of the supervision of the ninja
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>>13760831
Ogawa isn't such a small person who wouldn't let the Sakimori experience the world.
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>>13760831
Ogawa is a doormat and doesn't challenge Tsubasa's choices since that's not his place. He just keeps up the idoru facade and keeps her safe in instances where she can't Gear.
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>>13760714
You've got an awfully strange sense of humor.
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>>13760819
With this one, topdad is the only character of GX not appearing in these pictures. Nice.
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DAL thread?
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>>13760911
Don't jinx it.
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>>13760919
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>>13760911
Ver was at the bar?
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>>13760911
Which is funny since he's the most likely character in the whole series to be a canon alcoholic.
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>>13760931
Oh, I forgot about him. Well, he can do one with Ver and Carol. And not that I think more the anime ja nai trio didn't appear either, it seems I got a bit of Kaneko's disease and I forgot about them like he did.
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>>13760952
if you mean the stronghold of women, crossdress
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>>13760969
No, the one with the bandits who stole a magical tome some quest-giving ponce in Soren was looking after, they're all guys I think.
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>>13760976
oh. trying to recall how I did that quest.

but it was found on a ledge on the ruinsed castle there
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>>13760976
Cross dress anyways and post results.
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>>13760976
Sneak around the 30-something guys on the path, there's an unguarded staircase into the castle clearly visible from a hill to the right of the road. The bandits inside the castle aren't hostile.
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>>13760919
Worst girl. Throw that shit in the trash.
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>>13761013
Yes, I know, I got past the path, I'm in the castle, leader dude with the red text balloon just keeps saying the same thing about not feeling like giving me the tome, the jerk.
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>>13761063
Then go get the book dumbass.
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>>13760919
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>>13761070
I don't know where it is.
Also it's night, I can't see shit.
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>>13761078
Then go explore

Jeez anon do you need me to remind you to tie your shoes? Just play the fucking game.
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>>13761084
>wearing shoes with laces
What decade is this?
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>>13760819
After
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>>13761098
They got drunk enough to end up halfway around the planet?
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>>13761114
Haven't you had one of those days?
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>>13761084
>Then go explore
I can't.
There's only soup.
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>>13761119
Then increase the soup.
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Are dragons dogma or ddda for ps3 worth it? Obviously I'm not expecting the same graphics or frame rate, but wanna know if it's a good game.
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>>13761084
Okay, I got it.
Didn't notice the gift giving thing.
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>>13761128
It really is worth it if you can'tg et it on pc. Make sure to get the Dark Arisen version.

I bought both versions on release and I'm still playing it on my old 360 since my PC is a work in progress.
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>>13761119
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S ONLY SOUP?
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>>13760780
That's just Tarot Card stuff though, not just Jojo
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>>13760819
We didn't get drunk and hung over Tsubasa this season but we'll surely get it next season.
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>>13761299
Slice of life gears doing silly things is a great dream.Let's hope we get even a tiny bit of that.
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>>13761167
Thanks anon, went ahead and bought ddda among 3 other games because damn eb games sale.
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>GX didn't have enough time to implement its ideas
>single episode that introduces, develops, and resolves a character's daddy issues that tie in with the slice-of-life segment, gives all 5 main characters a little screentime, and has room for the action sequence as well as a little bit of comedy
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>>13761392
That one huge, sickly looking bellend.
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>>13761401
Don't make fun of the banana hair, it isn't even the weirdest hairstyle in that group.
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>>13761419
Did someone say banana hair?
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So yeah, I just came across an NPC male pawn wearing like this armor that's just a chest plate and a back plate tied together with some strings, leaving this sideboob area, and fucking daisy-dukes.
This is randomized, right?
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>>13761428
If you're online, typically they're player owned.
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>>13761428
Anyone can wear any armor

You know that brown guard captain chick? You can buy her armor and wear it even if you're a guy. Complete with boobplate.
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>/sgg/ - Here Be Dragon's Dogma
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>>13761426
I SHALL EAT THEM ALL
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>>13761439
I couldn't make my male PC wear the corsets though.
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>>13761441
http://a.pomf.cat/sngvqk.mp3
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>>13761463
I never thought about how common banana hair actually is.
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>>13761464
I was going to use THE WIND IS PUSHING ME general but I forgot DD:DA doesn't have that song
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>>13761481

I think it's because blonde hair is pretty common, and if you do it with thick lines, it all turns into bananas
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>>13761463
>someone okay'd this art style
Will SF ever stop looking shitty?
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>>13761401
I just see her hair flexing one of its arms.
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>>13761492
It looks like they were trying to go for a claymation look or something. Which doesn't really make sense for a fighting game, but whatever.
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>>13761511
I thought it was a shitty mod or photoshop or something.
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>>13761490
Kanade would be very Bananahair if she was blonde, now that I think about it.
It feels weird talking about Symphogear now.
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>>13761511
>Which doesn't really make sense for a fighting game
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>>13761511
V has a weird style in that some models look fucking amazing but others look really awkward.
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>>13761520
Oh god, I remember that game.
Not really, the Genesis version, but still.
I remember it looked like ass.
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>>13761527
Hey look, it's bearded Kenshiro.
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>>13761527
At least it's not KoF14 where only one model looks amazing and everyone else looks really awkward.
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>>13761518

We're not even at bump limit yet anon, we can't drifted that far yet
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>>13761527
Do the sheep act as stage hazards?
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I don't understand why Aoi randomly decides to spin, but it's cute.
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>>13761559
>Street Fighter: Sheep Advantage edition
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>>13761541
Leona and Angel tits look pretty good though
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>>13761570
Sheep would be banned from competition because of the small hitbox, wouldn't they.
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>G's ED is better than its OP

This kind of thing should be a crime
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>>13761635
>Sheep are too unpredictable, it disrupts the meta!
Or something.
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>>13761645
But that's wrong.
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>>13761635
>>13761646
>Left side starts closer to the sheep, it's unfair!

>>13761633
But seriously they need to code some effects filters for KoF14, it looks like a Maximum Impact as is.
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>>13761681

Yeah stating an opinion as though it's a fact should be a crime
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>>13761725
Some opinions are so objectively correct they become facts, like Topdad being shit.Much like stating something is just an opinion does not make it valid or something of worth.
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>>13761833
TopDad is objectively the best Symphogear character.
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>>13761880
>>13761833
>>13761725
Please stop, this doesn't have to happen every single thread.
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>>13761880
This bait is too obvious.
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>>13761888
It's kinda sad how this is one of the only times where the thread stays on topic for long.
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>>13761689
At least it gave us this.
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So for the guys yesterday that was wondering about Dragonforging, here you go.
Forged my chest plate, sword, arm guards, and something else, and it had that notification for each one.
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>>13761903
>kind of sad
You're in the wrong place if you care about threads staying on topic 100% of times.
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>>13761916
Not really talking about the amount of off-topic, but how the on-topic is the same shit over and over again.
I guess it's just par for the course since we don't have new material to discuss, but still.
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>>13761933
Occasionally we get newfags redirected to this place because all other communities don't have discussion about Symphogear, but they get drowned out in the circlejerk and off-topic.
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>>13761933
Topdad made a big impact in our lifes.
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>>13761933
I will never understand people that get so upset at the TopDad subplot.
I mean, I understand being upset, just not so ridiculously, absurdly upset.
Like that Anon that gets mad while listening to Little Miracle.
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>>13761991
Hate and anger gives your life purpose.
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>>13761991
It's a meme, nobody actually gets that angry over cartoons. Most people are indifferent or annoyed at best.
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>>13762020
>nobody actually gets that angry over cartoons
I want to believe you, Anon.
I really, really do.
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>>13762020
Speak for yourself man
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>>13762032
Believe me, Joe.
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>>13762020
That's too reasonable and sane to be true.
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>>13762020
>nobody actually gets that angry over cartoons
It's being angry over something you love, the actual subject matter is irrelevant. People get angry over sports, it's no different, and there's nothing unreasonable about it.
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>>13762055
This. I get angry over sports so why can't I feel angry over a show I really like if I think they fucked it really hard?
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>>13762055
>>13762067
> getting angry over sports
This is why organized sports can make millions. Why do you let that happen?
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>>13762055
>>13762067
It's understandable to get upset, no one is saying you can't, but to the point of starting riots or wishing death on people is crazy and unhealthy.
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>>13762067
Except at this point the salt is akin to going over to people talking about something mundane like what to get for lunch and saying, "But you know what really sucks? That Germany won the World Cup."
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>>13762067
So long as you don't dwell on it forever.
Because that's really pointless and you could spend that time and energy on more productive things. Symphogear related things, even.
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>>13762079
Because my life would be more boring.
>>13762081
Who is talking about wishing someone's death? I would never want to wish Kaneko's death, I don't even want him to be fired.
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>>13761915
what does the shop in the quarry sell after you clear it out of the ogres?
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>>13762089
>Symphogear related things, even.
Wrong thread.
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>>13762093
Fuck if I know, but typically the items for sale are a constant around the country. They unlock in turn with where you are in the story.
That said, you should kill all three of those ogres, then put a portcrystal in front of the Shadowfort for easy fort and Devilfire Grove access.

>>13762089
>Symphogear related things, even.
Sounds gay.
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>>13761907
ONE OF THESE THINGS

IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER
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>>13762110
>Fuck if I know, but typically the items for sale are a constant around the country. They unlock in turn with where you are in the story.
>That said, you should kill all three of those ogres, then put a portcrystal in front of the Shadowfort for easy fort and Devilfire Grove access.

I'm just asking because that was the only shop that sells the Golden Age gear and I am wondering what the replacement gear is
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>>13762085
The 7-1 is still amazing.
It was the most beautiful way in which the Cup taking place in Brazil could have ended.
Speaking that as a brazilian myself.
It was hysterical.
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>>13762090
Multiple "Fuck Kaneko" posts give me the impression of some very angry posters who let themselves be affected too easily by a season of bad writing. I know some/most of those were probably made in jest, but the frequency in which they occur is startling.

I love Symphogear as much as the next guy, and I recognize its flaws and I want it to do better next time, but I don't feel the need to reassert my hatred of Kaneko every single thread. Seeing hate gets very tiresome, very fast.

He made mistakes, that's it. All we can do is hope s4 learns from them.
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>>13762113
Don't make fun of Heihachi, he can't help his fully-receded hairline.
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>>13762137
>Seeing hate gets very tiresome, very fast.
This. It's understandable that people didn't like GX, but you don't have to say it every single thread. GX had shit writing, but it's not the end of the world.
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>>13762143
Except he can.
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>>13762151
Man, how much time did young Heihachi spend on his hair every morning?
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>>13762155
It just grows that way due to his sheer manly power and fighting spirit.
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>>13762137
Well, I said a lot of times Fuck Kaneko when talking about GX and I say more harsh words in my native language everyday about other people but I don't usually wish anybody's death unless if they guy I'm insulting is someone who truly deserves his death. (murderers, terrorist, the type of scum you can imagine).

Good night
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>>13762020
>ruined an entire season of show
>just a meme

End yourself, almost every negative is tied to the presence of his subplot.
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>>13762134
>tfw a few of my friends went and betted on Germany for that match and got a whole lot of cash out of it
I should have went and betted as well.
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>>13762089
>dwell on it

If anything it's the people that still attempt to defend it at all are the ones dwelling on it.

>>13762137
>Seeing hate gets very tiresome

Try Reddit where you can just upboat the posts you want to see then.
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>Zesshoushinais STILL not subbed
but why
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>>13762020
>Nobody actually has any real passion for their hobbies
Right. That's there are people that learn another language to subtitle cartoons from half way around the world.
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>>13762137
>People talking about the show seriously
"Yeah, GX was shit, which is sad because having been a fan of Kaneko's for over a decade, I know he can do better."

>People speaking in jest and using hyperbole for a joke
"This is as bad as Kaneko's writing in GX!"

People like things (like Symphogear). People don't like seeing things they like get ruined (like Symphogear GX). What's so hard to grasp about this?
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>>13762230
Zoid's script is done. I'm editing while eating dinner. Soon. I promise.
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>Crossovers are FUN

Am I too late?
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>>13762283
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>>13762298
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>>13762269
Was Majin Bone any good? I watched the first couple episodes when it started to air but dropped it because it seemed to be taking forever to get anywhere.
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>>13762347
Slow burn but it only gets better and better as it goes alone.
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>>13762347
It was damn good when shit started happening.
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DD couldeth surely benefiteth from toning down ye olde englishe bullshiteth.
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>>13762366
Why is the Major dressed so non-slutty there?
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>>13762370
The repetitive pawn dialogue is grating as well. Not Omega Quintet field quotes grating, but pretty fucking annoying.

Tis weak to fire.
Wolves hunt in packs.
Tis weak to fire.
Wolves hunt in packs.
Tis weak to fire.
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>>13762381
THANK YOU, LOLIMAGE, I KNOW WHAT A WOLF IS
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>>13762393
TIS STRONGER THAN A COMMON WOLF
You can turn off pawn chatter
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>>13762393
But did you know that they hunt in packs? This is important.
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>>13762381
>Not Omega Quintet field quotes grating, but pretty fucking annoying.

let's just say that your radio support in OQ is WORSE than Rise
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>>13762399
>worse than Teh Rie
Let's not get crazy now.
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>>13762397
I KNOW THIS THING IS WEAK TO FIRE, WE ALREADY BURNED A BAJILLION OF THEM TO DEATH
But how off is that? Haven't tried it yet.
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>>13762410
>But how off is that? Haven't tried it yet.
I don't know, I haven't tried it either

Meanwhile, Bitterblack Isle is hell.
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>>13762408
I am not talking about VA wise, I am talking about NOT SHUTTING THE FUCK UP

example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAIY0fo9gN8
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>>13762413
And I just noticed the male pawn's VA is the same guy as "Do you get to the cloud district very often?"
This is just grand...
soren.
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>>13762381
>Their kind covets women above all else
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>>13762438
there's a male version later
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>>13762490
Gay.
GAY!
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A wild Kohibiki appeared!
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>>13762350
On a fun side note, one of the head writers for that show is working on the newest Precure.

>>13762375
Because that's a different character.
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> Killing Goblins, feeling like I'm getting the hang of this game
> Run into a group of bandits
> They slaughter my whole party
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>>13762519
I got that with wolves. They are the ones who violently took my sweet virginity.
Fuck that path to Witchwood.
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>>13762530
Just fucking book it there, it's easier than fighting
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>>13762533
That's in the past now.
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>>13762538
Everything is in the past, really.
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>Trying to hold off on downloading DD because I'm trying to finish other games I fell behind on and I'm waiting till I can move my ass to install a new SSD I bought
>Everyone's posts make it seem really fun
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>>13762551
Don't bother, it's Amalur but shit.
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>>13762555
Anon it's not nice to lie on the internet
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>>13762555
I heard it was more like Amalur, DMC, Dark Souls, MonHun and SotC had a baby and that baby had a pawn that followed it around.
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>>13762639
Remove DMC and that's about right.
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>>13762647
Wait, really? I thought the cuh-razy combat in an rpg was one of the big draws of the game.
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